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Speaker 2: That's this show. We just watched the Ravens destroy the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Doug we lost trust in you guys a long long

428
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Speaker 2: time ago. If you think anyone is up in arms

429
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: and losing trust over some useless comment after halftime from

430
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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll or Sean mcvayh you are living in La

431
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Speaker 2: La land. Okay, let's go around the NFL. I saw

432
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: a headline today. Obviously Texas A and M paid Jimbo

433
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: Fisher seven hundred million dollars to leave and they need

434
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: a new coach. Well, if you're willing in all seriously,

435
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: as they paid him seventy six million dollars, I actually

436
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 2: saw the breakdown. It's like, I think they paid him

437
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: nineteen million dollars. Next year it's like six million dollars,

438
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: and then for like six straight years it's seven million dollars. Listen,

439
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: I love to work. I've been working a lot my

440
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: entire life since I left college. Now, granted, I've only

441
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: worked in one industry. It's the only thing I've ever

442
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: done is work in some form of football. So I

443
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: enjoy what I do. But if you paid me a

444
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: substantial amount of money not to work, and listen, I

445
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: say it all the time, like money, I don't get

446
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: that much juice. Now, granted I've never been paid seven

447
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: million dollars a year for eight straight years not to work.

448
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: That's got to be a pretty powerful feeling. I mean,

449
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: it really does. Would leave you a lot of options

450
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: to do a lot of different things. If you're semi

451
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 2: curious in life, you could just go down a lot

452
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: of rabbit holes figure it like with your body and

453
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: do them. It'd probably be quite the experience, at least

454
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: for a couple of yearsun til you got bored. But

455
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: rumors were Dan Campbell played at Texas A and M.

456
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. We've seen a lot of times

457
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Guys could not hack it. They just

458
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: did not belong. Most recently, Urban Meyer had no business

459
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: being in the NFL. But we've seen other guys like

460
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: have a moment, but it's like you're not an NFL coach,

461
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, like get out of here, Nick Saban, come

462
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: on go and they go to college and Chip not necessarily,

463
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: but Nick Saban, Bobby Petrino, these guys are much more

464
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: suited for college football. If you win in the NFL,

465
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: if you're having success, even if you're on quote unquote

466
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: the shittiest franchise, right, the best franchises aren't even necessarily

467
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: the biggest brands, just they kind of are because you're

468
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: more famous. It's whoever's paying you the most. Like when

469
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick got to the New England Patriots, they weren't

470
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: some enormous brand in the NFL. He helped create them

471
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: with Tom Brady to now viewed as one of the

472
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Speaker 2: big quote unquote brands in the NFL. Right, if you're

473
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Speaker 2: the coach of the Cowboys, if you're the coach of

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Remember last year or was it two years ago,

475
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: when Mike Tomlin was asked about USC would he be

476
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Speaker 2: interested in going to USC?

477
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: Why?

478
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: Because he's like cool and would recruit well? And he

479
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: was offended. I mean he was offended. I don't blame

480
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: if the Pittsburgh Steelers want you to be their head coach.

481
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: There is no college job that would even be strong

482
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: enough for you to pick up the fucking phone. Now.

483
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: The Lions historically are one of those jobs that, like,

484
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: if you really want to coach the Lions. But if

485
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: I told you the Lions are good and they're playing

486
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: the Bears this week, though, I kind of like the

487
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: Bears plus eight Lions look like they're gonna be eight

488
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: and two, and more likely they're headed toward twelve and

489
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: thirteen wins. But this is clearly not just some one

490
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 2: off situation. The rest of their teams in their division

491
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: don't have quarterbacks. Their team is really really young, a

492
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: lot of guys on rookie contracts, and Dan's just like

493
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: kind of fits the city. So even if Texas A

494
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: and M was willing to pay him thirty million dollars

495
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: and the Lions would be like, Dan, we'll give you

496
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: like a five six year contract, but we won't match

497
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: the money. It ain't even about the money. When it

498
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: comes to recruiting the transfer portal, here's the thing. Do

499
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to transfer in the NFL,

500
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: I don't have to trade you. Right, You're like, I

501
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: want a trade, you can just say no. Remember the

502
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: Packers Aaron Rodgers a couple of years ago, like trade me,

503
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: and they're like, see it training camp, Aaron, that was

504
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: the best player in the NFL and they're like, uh,

505
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: camp starts July twenty seventh. In college. If I want

506
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: to trade and I hit that transfer portal, I literally

507
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: just leave. When it comes to boosters in the National

508
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: Football League, you answer to one individual it's the owner.

509
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: In college, you answer to the eight boosters, the athletic director,

510
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: the provost, the president, and seven other morons. It is

511
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: not even close. So I understand why Texas A and

512
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: M thinks their money can buy them anything. But I

513
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: also appreciate Dan Campbell. Florio wrote like he already just

514
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: reached like his intermedia We're like, yeah, we're not interested.

515
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: Like he didn't even use them to get an extension,

516
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: which I'm sure he's going to get at the end

517
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: of the season. But I think it's a good example

518
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: of the difference of the NFL in college because historically

519
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: the Lions, if it was college football, like, who would

520
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: they be? I mean, pick a team that is just

521
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: Boston College. I don't even know. I mean, who's like

522
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: the shittiest Rutgers And even Rutgers have had some moments

523
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: in my life with Greg Ciano. So I would say

524
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: the Lions, if it was a college football program, would

525
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: clearly have the power five be one of the worst.

526
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Speaker 2: Yet Dan Campbell doesn't even contemplate leaving, which is the

527
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: right move because you never leave the NFL. Okay, a

528
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: couple other things around the NFL Big Week for Pittsburgh,

529
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: and we talked about him earlier this week. They're getting

530
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: dtr You can't listen. They have had one of the

531
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: crazier statistical seasons in terms of a team being outscored,

532
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: being outgained, and just looking from the eye test, abysmal

533
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: on offense. Yet they win this game, they'd be seven

534
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: to three. Now it's on the road divisional opponent. Things

535
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: get weird. But you're playing Dorian Thompson Robinson, who's a

536
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: really good athlete and who in the preseason look like

537
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: I don't know, he was the next coming of like

538
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson meets Josh Allen. But as we all learn,

539
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: the preseason does not translate like that. So I'm fascinated

540
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: to watch this game. I actually feel bad for Browns fans,

541
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: not even because I'm like, I'm not even I don't

542
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: even like Deshaun Watson. But I like the story of

543
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: the franchise. I appreciate the fan base at home. This

544
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: is just I like this division. One thing I thought

545
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: about tonight watching the Ravens play the Bengals, like, there

546
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: are a lot of guys in the NFL who are

547
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: probably solid players who I don't know if they could

548
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: play consistently in that division. It's really cold, it's really physical.

549
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it just feels like the tough guy division.

550
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: And you put two of those teams, now that they're

551
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: all pretty good on at the same you know, playing

552
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: against each other in any you know, you take any

553
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: four and you match them up, you'll get my eyes

554
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: because there's a physicality to those games. Even the night

555
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: early on before Burrow went out and the Bengals had

556
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: hope that there's just an edge, there's an edge to crowd.

557
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: It's always fucking freezing for those of us on the

558
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: West Coast. I mean it's cold today in Arizona. It's

559
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: like seventy eight degrees. You look up, it's just like

560
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: they're wearing beanies. You can see their breath. There's just

561
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: there's just a violence, a physicality mixed in with the

562
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: cold and the weather to that that division that I've

563
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: always appreciated as someone who hates the cold. I used

564
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: to ski a lot. It's like, I'm not even interested

565
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: in skiing. I don't want snowing my socks anymore. I'll

566
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: just sit in the bar and watch television come get

567
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: me after. But I'm fascinated by that game. Another game

568
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm pretty interested in is Miami and the Raiders. Now,

569
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: we've talked a lot this week, in the last couple

570
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: of weeks about Antonio Pierce. I actually think this could

571
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: be a tough spot for him, because the more and

572
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: more I thought about it, I was like, you know,

573
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go to the DraftKings sportsbook and

574
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: place a pretty big wager on Oregon State this week,

575
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, should I? Also the

576
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: Raiders get in a lot of points, and then I

577
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna take a rookie quarterback on the

578
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: road against Dick Fancio, Like that seems pretty crazy off

579
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: a by like a I probably need to pump the

580
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: brakes there, like this is a spot and listen as

581
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: someone and you Miami fans get on my ass because

582
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: I don't put you on a tier now, granted this year,

583
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: how could I. I've seen you play real good teams

584
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: and get worked. It's kind of open it up for you,

585
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: right The Bills kicked your ass. That Bill's team is

586
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: long gone, long gone. Those defensive players are gone. This

587
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: version of Josh Allen, even though statistically I saw someone

588
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: say everyone's acting like he's some scrub. He is statistically easily,

589
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: even with the game the other night, a top three

590
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. He's had a better season than

591
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. His moments, two of them have just come

592
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: on Monday Night Football, but the totality of his year

593
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: actually is not very bad. I think we can do

594
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: that sometimes. It's always been a Ryan Rosillo thing that

595
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: we and it's so true. You know, in other sports,

596
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: like you play Sunday Night Baseball or TNT doubleheader on

597
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: Thursday in bass, it doesn't really matter. You play so

598
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: many game in football. If you play Monday night football

599
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: or you play Sunday night football and you're a primetime

600
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: you know name, and you shit the bed, it's like, God,

601
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: is this guy losing it? Is this guy slipping? He's like, wait,

602
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: he leads a league in touchdowns. It's like one bad

603
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: game because you might throw five touchdowns. But if you're

604
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: playing in the morning slate on Sunday afternoon, people change

605
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: that channel after the second quarter when you're up by

606
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: twenty five points. I've done that to the Bills a

607
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: couple times this year. Did it twice early in the

608
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: season when they played the Raiders, and when they play

609
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, I'm like, this game was over before half.

610
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: But you watch them on Monday night, You're like, God,

611
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, do they need to have an intervention with

612
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: the guy? He's like, actually, I think he's okay. Clearly

613
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: not for their standards, but overall, I think we've overreacted

614
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: a little bit there. But this is a good spot

615
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: for Miami, right because you're coming in, You're getting a

616
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback, an interim head coach. If you're a real

617
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: deal team, like you kill these fucking guys, you destroy them,

618
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: you win this game by twenty five points. I'll definitely

619
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: have my eyes there. I saw that McCaffrey has a chance.

620
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: He's got he's like four receptions away from passing Roger

621
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Craig as the most receptions through seven years at running back.

622
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: It really is amazing when you know trades can do

623
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: a couple things for players. Right for von Miller, it

624
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: led to a Super Bowl and an enormous payday, And honestly,

625
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: that payday was all because of that three or four

626
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: game playoff stretch. It really was week would have been

627
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: eighteen at the time against the forty nine ers, and

628
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: then all the playoff games where he had a sack

629
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: in every playoff game and won Super Bowl and he

630
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: got fifty five million dollars from the Bills. Listen, I

631
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: love von Miller, but an older player. Even at the

632
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: time before he had torn his ACL that contract was insanity.

633
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: That was nuts. But the trade did it. It really

634
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: revitalized his name. Now he was older, right, he was

635
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: over thirty. McCaffrey was like twenty six years old and

636
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: rotting away. I'm not the biggest NFL brand, and they're terrible,

637
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: so like no one's paying attention. And he comes to

638
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: the fourty and he's immediately a superstar again, like an

639
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: absolute like rock star in the NFL. And that's what

640
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: happens when you play for good teams, especially when they're

641
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: big brands. And today I saw McCaffrey said that Trent

642
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Speaker 2: Williams the best player he's ever seen. They asked Trent

643
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Williams about it, and he said, that's right back out

644
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. And I think he was being nice, but

645
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: I think what he's saying is like, this guy's one

646
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: of the best players in the NFL. And let's be real.

647
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: I know he had some really good years early on

648
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: in his career, but he had kind of been out

649
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind, injury prone. Whatever the forty

650
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Speaker 2: nine ers trade, I mean, changed the course of this

651
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: guy's career. He still got a long ways to go,

652
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: but and listen, the running back position, you get injured.

653
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: But given the coach, given the way this team plays,

654
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Speaker 2: given how they use him, I mean, if he could

655
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Speaker 2: stay healthy now for several three four years, I mean

656
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Speaker 2: you'd be talking about a Hall of Fame level player.

657
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: And that was never gonna happen in Carolina. I know,

658
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: he got to make a lot of money there. He

659
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: had to have those couple of years of doing the

660
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: cool stats, but it was all kind of hollow. And

661
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: now he gets to be part of a team that's

662
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: winning big and he's, you know, one of the engines

663
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Speaker 2: behind it. So it's it's kind of cool to see. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's do the Guinness Bold Take of the Week. Now,

665
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Speaker 2: I've taken some big swings this year, and I've missed

666
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: on a decent amount of them. Then I started getting close,

667
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: started saying this is the week a guy gets fired.

668
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, Frank Wright demotes himself and

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Speaker 2: I'm like really close, And then I said, you know

670
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: something with Caleb Williams, and it almost happened. And then

671
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: last week I said the Houston Texans would go into Cincinnati,

672
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: they would win the game, and CJ. Stroud would throw

673
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: his hat in the ring as an MVP candidate, and

674
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: then it happened. Well, this week I'm gonna go against

675
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans because I think everyone and their mother,

676
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: and rightfully so, based on what has happened so far

677
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: this year, is going to go the Houston Texans. Could

678
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 2: they take on the Ravens? Could this team with CJ.

679
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 2: Stroud handle the Chiefs? And this happens every year a team,

680
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: especially a younger team, newer head coach, younger quarterback, catches

681
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: a little fire, everyone bets on him. I love, I

682
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: don't like. I love the Arizona Cardinal and this is

683
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: I love Damiko Ryans, and I love c J. Stroud,

684
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Speaker 2: And I think over the course of the next couple

685
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Speaker 2: of years, they are going to be a serious factor

686
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: if this quarterback can play at this level, because they

687
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: are gonna be dramatically better the next couple of years

688
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: as they get more draft picks. They still have the

689
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: Browns draft pick, which could turn out to be pretty

690
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: good because they might just start losing with Dorian Thompson Robinson.

691
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: This team, to me is gonna be twenty twenty four,

692
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five watch out. I do think this year, though,

693
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: they're gonna tease us a little bit, as we've seen.

694
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: I mean, who a couple of weeks ago they lost

695
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Speaker 2: to the Carolina Panthers. I think the Arizona Cardinals this week,

696
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: who have been a bizarre team. But now that Kyler's back,

697
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: what if they're actually kind of good now? Just because

698
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: you're not used to playing there aren't that many guys

699
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: like him unless you're playing Lamar Jackson. How do you

700
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: get used to There were a couple scramble runs in

701
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: that game. I said this last week. I don't know

702
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: if he's a hundred percent, but he damned sure is

703
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: closer to one hundred percent than he is like seventy five.

704
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: And his speed at eighty five ninety percent is faster

705
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: than the majority guys in the NFL. It's why, listen,

706
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: we can nitpick him. Dude loves a good call of duty,

707
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: playing with his buddies with an ear set in. You know,

708
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: don't tell me to blame him. The graphics in these

709
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: games now are pretty incredible, especially if you can play online.

710
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: But when you're making a lot of money to play

711
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: quarterback and need you in the playbook, and I understand

712
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: he's driven some people nuts. Might not have been the

713
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: most mature guy, but as a physical talent, there's a

714
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Speaker 2: reason the guy five foot nine was a no brainer

715
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: number one overall talents like Bryce showing you watch him,

716
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: you go, God, this is gonna have to go really well.

717
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: You can put Kyler on a shitty team run around,

718
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 2: You're like, damn, this guy's enormous arm elite speed, built

719
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Speaker 2: like a little tank, even though he's short. I kind

720
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: of think the Arizona Carnivals go in there, and that's

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Speaker 2: not the craziest take. I mean, they're only a four

722
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: point I think it actually went up four and a

723
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Speaker 2: half five points. I think everybody. I think the casuals,

724
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Speaker 2: and I'm technically a casual one. I bet, and most

725
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: times I bet casually in terms of like bet with

726
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: the people, like bet on the Texans, I'm going against

727
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Speaker 2: the Green I like the Cardinals, and I think Kyler

728
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: Murray goes in there and looks freaking awesome. I think Kyler.

729
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Here's the other take I will add to this. I

730
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: think there I'd say eighty five percent, assuming they win

731
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: some games and are well out of the top couple

732
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: picks of Caleb and Drake May. I think they just

733
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: roll back with Kyler Murray and they use their picks

734
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: on other players and just for the next couple of years,

735
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: try to build around that player, because I think you're

736
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: gonna see over the next couple weeks and listen, he's

737
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: got his flaws and he's got to prove that he

738
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: can stay healthy. But there's no lock that, like Caleb Williams,

739
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: is gonna be dramatically better than Kyler. You know, I

740
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: think we always do this with college prospects. I'm guilty too.

741
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: Take this guy, Marvin Harrison's the next Jerry Rice. Then

742
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Marvin Harrison, good player, is never

743
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: a top seven wide receiver. He might be, might not be.

744
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: I was told when Jerry Judy came in the league

745
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: he was gonna be fucking you know, the next Marvin Harrison,

746
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Speaker 2: the dad. I mean, I watch Jerry Judy, decent player,

747
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: but he's not even like a top twenty five wide

748
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: receiver in the NFL. It's hard for every prospect that

749
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Speaker 2: he thinks can't miss. Most of them miss or even

750
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: never live up to what you think. Whatever we comp

751
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: you like, think of who Caleb will and listen, I'm

752
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: not trying to crap on Caleb Williams' ability, but his

753
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: comp is Patrick Mahomes. Before Patrick Mahomes came around, we've

754
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: literally never seen that. Now you see it happen with

755
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: so many players in so many sports. After Draymond early

756
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: on in his career, came out and he was like

757
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: the Swiss Army Knife could do everything. Every single guy

758
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: for like five years in the NBA draft who was

759
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: like kind of a hybrid, didn't have a position but

760
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: could do a lot of things like this guy's like

761
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: Draymond Green. None of them were remotely close to Draymond Green.

762
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: And obviously it's a higher level when you're talking elite quarterbacks.

763
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: But I think we just do this sometimes, And I'm

764
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: not saying he won't be a really good player. He

765
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: has a lot of talent, but so does Kyler, and

766
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: I keep an eye on Kyler doing some kind of

767
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: things that are gonna be eye opening. This last month

768
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: and a half of the season, and I think this

769
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: leads to Kyler Murray staying as the Arizona Cardinals, which

770
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: I would not have bet on when the season started.

771
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: But I think you just kind of paying attention, you

772
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: see where this is going, Like Kyler Murray's gonna be

773
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: the Cardinals quarterback in twenty twenty four. That's my bull take.

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Speaker 2: owner in Lexicon to Kentucky where I checked on my phone,

800
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: Kentucky was up. Then before I went to bed, I

801
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: checked again and they had lost to Bill Self, who

802
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: has a unlike John Calipari that you know rumors are

803
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: might be on the hot seat. Bill Self has a

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00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: contract that pays him even when he's dead. It's not

805
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: a lifetime it's it's a fifty year contract that will

806
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: just keep paying because of the money. But is coach

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Speaker 2: Calipari in your neck of the woods under a little

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Speaker 2: heat stucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was actually yeah, I mean there's there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of rumors swirling, and I've I shouldn't say

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Speaker 1: I'm a small business center. It's my wife and uh, I.

812
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Speaker 2: Just it's family, family, family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I basically am a small businessnor for the amount

814
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: of money I spent there. But the yeah, I would say,

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00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: because look, I moved. I moved here in twenty eighteen,

816
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: and I think maybe once and then in as right away,

817
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: they've been out of the first weekend and this is

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Speaker 1: what we're going six years, which, by the way, kill

819
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: it kills the bars year. All cares about is Kentucky basketball.

820
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: But it's been six years and this is supposed to

821
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: be one of the premier college We're not talking about

822
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: no titles, no final fours, no elite, just the second weekend,

823
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: get to the sweet sixteen. So people have just grown

824
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: so frustrated. So this is just like if they don't

825
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: get to the out of the first weekend this year,

826
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Speaker 1: because again you have you book at the fact they

827
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: got again the top recruiting class. It's you know, five

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Speaker 1: star crush, you know, number two and three recruit in

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Speaker 1: the country. So yesterday was actually a really good the

830
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: other night. Was a really good sign because number one

831
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Speaker 1: that none of that they have a couple bigs who

832
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: didn't even play due to injuries, are just not eligible yet,

833
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: and they had no size in that game and Dickinson

834
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: I think twenty seven points and twenty rebounds. But their

835
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: freshmen looked great. So this team has potential, but other

836
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: teams have had potential at Kentucky over the year. So

837
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: we'll see if if Calcoln put it together. But I

838
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: was generally optimistic from what I saw based on how

839
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: you on that team is without bigs going up against

840
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, the number one team in the country. So yeah,

841
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: well we'll see how it plays out. But there if

842
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: if there's another flop, and especially if they lose to

843
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: like another Saint Peter's, oh, then it's it's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, follow JT. Poston, who's a PGA Tour goal for

845
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: his caddy, is a diehard can yeah diehard? Oh yeah yeah,

846
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: And he was tweeting that he's like, you know, I'm

847
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: actually this positive night. It was a good night. So

848
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: you know, those Kentucky bats. When I lived at Philly,

849
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Speaker 2: Jay Wright would kind of come around in like twenty

850
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: ten eleven twelve, Like he became a legend later on

851
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: in the decade, but people forget early on he was

852
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: getting bounced and I remember, you know, it was kind

853
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: of free agency draft time. All the TVs would be

854
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: on and you'd hear groans throughout the office. One year,

855
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: they definitely got bounced in the first round and it

856
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: was really really ugly. So sometimes you go, that's the

857
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: weird thing about college basketball. Could have a couple of

858
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: years what what was it? Uh was it Virginia when

859
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: they lost the first round? Next year they win the

860
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: national title, so that.

861
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: This Tony Bennett had that same stigma. And especially college basketball,

862
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: there's there's so much randomness and it's a tournament, so uh,

863
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, you know as that now is that the

864
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: new guy in that aspect is Matt Paynter. And Purdue,

865
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've been bounced in the first round

866
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: as one or two seats the past two years, lost

867
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: this one last year. They also lost. People forget because

868
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Kentucky did. Purdue also lost to Saint Peter's that year

869
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: after Kentucky did. But yeah, so a lot of it is,

870
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, and I I remember I lived in Philly too,

871
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: at the time, and right jay Wright used to have

872
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: that stigma attached him, and then he won it, and

873
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: his down regarded and rightfully so, as one of the

874
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: best coaches in college basketball history. And Villanova will start

875
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: to even see that even more. They lost a pen

876
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: at the legendary Polester the other night, so they're they're

877
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: definitely gonna go. They're definitely gonna be a drop. And

878
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: after the Jay Wright.

879
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: Left, I joined this gym, probably within the last couple

880
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: of weeks, and I was on the StairMaster the other

881
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: day getting a little sweat and I look over and

882
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: this guy's wearing Golden State Warriors shorts. Skinny guy, and

883
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: he's wearing Arizona State basketball shirt and I can't really

884
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't really see his face. Then he kind of turns.

885
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's fucking Bobby Hurley, you know, you know,

886
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: he must have been getting a little workout before going

887
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: to work. And then I looked up. They had just

888
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: gotten their ass kicked by Mississippi State. But I was like,

889
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: that guy, that guy is colled. That guy helped build

890
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: a sport, you know, and take it to the next level.

891
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I hope everyone in this place, I realized

892
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: I was kind of staring at him. Gives this guy

893
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: the proper respect, absolute legend right there.

894
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to hate him because my dad was

895
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: a Duke fan and I rooted against Duke.

896
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, what a legend, which you know, I just

897
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: I think the Arizona State ad just resigned, so I

898
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: think he's, you know, might be coaching for his job.

899
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: But come here for NFL talk, Get a little college

900
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: basketball talk before we dive into the NFL. You know,

901
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: next week is usually obviously all the rivalry games, you know,

902
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: Higo State Michigan. I mean, to me, that's I googled

903
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: it the other day. Seventeen million people watched last year

904
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: is the highest rated college football game in the last

905
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: ten years. I think there's a chance, like of the

906
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: last like thirty years, as the highest rated, most viewed

907
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: college football game maybe ever, I think the buzz the

908
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: drive obviously, you know, I was shitping on Ohio State

909
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. They're clearly pretty good, and

910
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: they're definitely, as you said, better on defense now, But

911
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: that game, I mean, is there any other college football

912
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: game this year that's gonna sniff that? In terms of

913
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: the importance going into it.

914
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: No, I mean not until yeah, the national championship, depending

915
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: on what you get, playoffs, yeah, yeah, the college football

916
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: semi final matchup, the Yeah, that will that'll if both

917
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: teams are undefeated, which they should be, then yeah, that'll

918
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: smash that even last year's crazy numbers. The other thing

919
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: is that it's on that game, which I actually hate.

920
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: I mean I had some time, I go back and forth.

921
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes I look at some as I don't. But that

922
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: game's on at noon. Yeah, so everyone's awake and there's

923
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: no other game on that you know, gets competing interests,

924
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: like next week at noon on Saturday. Yeah, there's going

925
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: to be nothing else to compete.

926
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: Well, I think these networks know. You don't even attempt it.

927
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: There's no point. You're not putting Auburn Alabama. You don't

928
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: want to waste any of you or just let that standalone.

929
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Because now, I mean, Hardball's taking this to another level

930
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: as he usually does with all the craziness, and Ohio

931
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: State's match them just because they keep winning. So it's

932
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: just I mean, listen, I'm not trying to get ahead

933
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: of ourselves. We got a weekend this, we got a

934
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: big game with a playoff team, but that I fucking

935
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: can't wait.

936
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think we'll ultimately coach in it. So

937
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: because there's like some precedent for two games suspensions for

938
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: coaches in situations like this, so they suspended him for three.

939
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: He'll get his hearing, and it just seems like it'll

940
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: be one of those things where you know, like these

941
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: guys in the NFL and then they go to a

942
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: hearing and then you reduce it. It'll like, hey, you got,

943
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: we'll get you. You got two games you can coach

944
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: for Ohio State, and yeah, the drama with the sign

945
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: stealing and him returning and a college football playoff position

946
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: on the line. I mean, it's the Big Ten championship

947
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: because the winner gets yeah, Iowa or Nebraska.

948
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: You know, to kill him. Whether it was a phone

949
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: call or a text message, I would bet every dollar

950
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: I have that Harbaugh contacted someone at halftime and said,

951
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: run the fucking ball every single play they cannot score

952
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: and that quarterback and I got, you know, I'm sure

953
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: a million Penn State guys, my Penn State buddies were

954
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: so fired up on this season. Like this guy. He's

955
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: like the college version of Josh Allen and I've watched

956
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: him in two important games. He stinks. I mean, you

957
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: can fire the offensive quarter That quarterback is not good.

958
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: And Harball has wet dreams about that. Kyle Shanahan, if

959
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: he could win a game seven to nothing only run plays,

960
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: they would gladly do it. And that second half Balls

961
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: dreams of games like that since he was a he

962
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: was a Wei lad in like the seventies.

963
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one would. No one would. I don't think

964
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: anyone in the world would be happier with a win

965
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: in that fashion than car Ball, not even at time.

966
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: Did you say shanahanan And and Harbor are the only

967
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: two guys that dream of runs?

968
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely definitely dream of runs. And uh yeah, I

969
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: have to give look. Yeah, and he's terrible. There's like

970
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: there's and yeah, he was a very highly five rated

971
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: five star crew. There's two kind of transitions. When you're

972
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: you know you have all the tools in you're a

973
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: five star. You go from you know, your high school

974
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: to college, and you don't know you can have all

975
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: the tools until the guy gets in there. Just because

976
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: you're you're a five star. It comes down to just

977
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: milliseconds of pocket awareness. Uh, you know timing, being able

978
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: to read defense processing information milliseconds.

979
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: Right, it's very crazy, crazy away game noise, you know,

980
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: intense environments.

981
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have poise, short term memory, like all

982
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: you have to have. It's all these intangibles when you're

983
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: talking at all, you know, among the kids that have

984
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: all the tools. And then so say you have a

985
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: kid that does that and is really good in college,

986
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: that's one speed. That doesn't mean that you're gonna be

987
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: good in the NFL. Then that's the next question. Okay,

988
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: you think you can be quicker and better and more

989
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: fine than all of that, And then that's why you know,

990
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: you see a lot of these five stars jump to

991
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: NFL and they don't have it. I mean, look at

992
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Bryce Young and Stroud, he clearly has it. But yeah,

993
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: that was an amazing game. I actually bet some Penn

994
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: State reluctantly and came back to play any Big Jane

995
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: games balls again. But my the Michigan tackles are way

996
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: down this year and Penn State is you know, some

997
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: of the best edge rushers in the Country's kid'll go

998
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: in the first round, maybe nother in the second. And

999
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: I said, there are these Michigan tackles. They've been getting

1000
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: beat by like and they didn't play to anybody. I

1001
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: watched those first three series and I said, Michigan is

1002
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: not going to be able to throw the ball at all.

1003
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: They I mean they McCarthy dropped back and he was

1004
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: under fire. I said, man, Penn State's gonna be live

1005
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: in this game. They're gonna have to they can win

1006
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: this game ugly. And then credit to Michigan, even without

1007
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: their head coach, as you said, I'm sure I didn't

1008
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: put they completely out coached them because they just made

1009
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: an adjustment. They would run on first second, they would

1010
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: then they would just run like quarterback power quarterbacks sleep

1011
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: on third and long. Didn't even attempt to pass us

1012
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: the game and Penn State never adjusted. They're still rushing

1013
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: the edges and then they were giving up lanes. Just

1014
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: that coaching mismatch, and James Franklin got out coached again. Shock.

1015
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: Well, then to me that you know, that's a good

1016
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: little nugget right there, because if Michigan handles business, wins

1017
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: against Ohio State and is in the playoffs, whether Oregon

1018
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: makes a run. I mean I watched that game against

1019
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: USC their pass rush, they got dudes. Obviously, Florida State

1020
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: has the big time pass rusher and they historically always

1021
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: have good defensive linemen.

1022
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: We know Alabama is if they get there too.

1023
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have great Alabama and Georgia. I mean both

1024
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: those two teams are just gonna have I don't know,

1025
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: NFL defensive linemen. So that's that's something I didn't I

1026
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: didn't realize that. I mean, I don't like them as

1027
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: much for everyone anointing them, is this gonna win the

1028
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: NAST title? If that is a bugaboo against the teams

1029
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: that you have to play in those finals, Like you're

1030
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: not getting TCU this year, right, You're getting You're getting

1031
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: a team that's gonna have NFL pass rushers. Hell, even

1032
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: if Washington makes it, they one of their pass rushers

1033
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: is really good. You know, he's a first round level talent.

1034
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have You're not gonna be You're not

1035
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do that right in the playoff games.

1036
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: Run the ball like Kyle Shanahan against the Aaron Rodgers

1037
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: whatever five years ago with Jimmy Garobbolo. You're gonna have

1038
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: to pass.

1039
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're and Michigan's run numbers are way down

1040
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: this year as a whole way down. I mean they

1041
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: were running wild last year, and you know, they had

1042
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: a left tack. Their right tackle was kind of weak.

1043
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: Last year. Their center got drafted in the first or

1044
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: second round. They got another kid who's pretty good from

1045
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: Stanford who's I think it's stepped below. But their right

1046
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: tackle is a weakness last year. He's still there. The

1047
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: left tackle got drafted by the Dolphins, and the replacement

1048
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: that is this Arizona State transfer who just is getting

1049
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: beat and there. It's affecting their run game as well.

1050
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: So the run game hasn't been as good now. They

1051
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: played nobody and they got away with it all year.

1052
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: But that's one of the reasons McCarthy had had such

1053
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: good numbers going into last week, because they weren't running

1054
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: the ball well, they were throwing it and they were

1055
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: playing all these bad secondaries. So yeah, I think the

1056
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: ultimate downfall this Michigan team is going to be that

1057
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: offensive line. But we shall stay. I also can't wait

1058
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: for I State Michigan.

1059
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: Okay, one big game this week. You mentioned the line

1060
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: has shifted over the last this week. I mean, Oregon

1061
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: State is really good. I think if I'm UCLA and

1062
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: I fired Chip Kelly. I had mentioned this on the

1063
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: podcast yesterday. Jonathan Smith is my higher He's from Pasadena.

1064
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: What he's done at Oregon State, his team is just

1065
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: kind of now. He's a Chris Peterson disciple, kind of

1066
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: wired and built like some of those Boise teams, a

1067
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: little different in the sense that the transfer portal his

1068
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. You speaking of five star guys that couldn't

1069
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: handle it. Listen, DJ hasn't turned himself into some first

1070
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: round player, but he's definitely, I would say, resurrected his

1071
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: career a little bit there, and this team is really physical.

1072
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 2: Washington has just not looked the same since that Oregon

1073
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: game when Oregon is kind of ascended. Even though it

1074
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: looks like these two teams are destined to play each other.

1075
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: But you know, the Apple Cup can get weird, and

1076
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: this it's not inconceivable all of a sudden. Washington is

1077
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 2: going to struggle to win these They're an underdog.

1078
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: Now.

1079
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: I've been to Corvallis when I was scouting, tiny little

1080
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: town that loves their team, especially when they're good. That

1081
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: place is gonna be fucking bananas. I mean it's gonna be,

1082
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be an intense environment. This is just kind

1083
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: of light up the scoreboard versus just tough, physical team.

1084
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: Not that Oregon State can't score, but I mean under

1085
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: Jonathan Smith, they're really more of a run the ball,

1086
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: throw the ball to the tight end type operation. I

1087
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: would say over the last couple of years. Is that fair?

1088
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is a team that's built like

1089
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: more of a you know, premier team in the nineties. Yeah.

1090
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: They they have arguably, I think they're going to get

1091
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: their their star center back this week from injury too.

1092
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: They have arguably the best offensive line in college football

1093
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: and they're all just older, experienced dudes. Their offensive line

1094
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: is great. They have two really good running backs and

1095
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: Damian Martinez Deshaun Fenwick. This team is an elite at

1096
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: running the ball and what Washington cannot defend the run,

1097
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: I mean at all. They're bottom five and things like

1098
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: line yards which look at like the push that they

1099
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: give up bottom five and rush success rate allowed. And

1100
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: if you look at you know, some of the teams

1101
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: that they played that actually can run the ball well.

1102
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean, USC was running just a wide open Every

1103
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: one of the runs was ten to twenty yards. So

1104
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: I mean even like Utah last week, you go back

1105
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: to Oregon was running all over them. So this Washington

1106
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: run dye is very vulnerable and the so what I

1107
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: think is gonna happen, Oregon State should be able to

1108
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: move the ball at will here just on the ground,

1109
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: and then safeties are going to have to come down.

1110
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: And this Washington defense, I mean, look, the Washington has

1111
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: been very fortunate. They beat Oregon by three, Oregon can't

1112
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: get its fourth down. They beat Arizona State by a

1113
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: touchdown at home, they don't score a touchdown. I was

1114
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: gonna say, can't make a field goal, then throws a

1115
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: pick six at the end of the game, lose. They've

1116
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: only beat Stanford by nine. You know, Stanford is five

1117
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: hundred yards of that game. Then they beat usc by

1118
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: ten in a back and forth game, and then last

1119
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: week they only beat Utah by seven. So they've won

1120
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: six straight games by ten or less. They've been they

1121
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: and they've had injuries at safety and they just don't

1122
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: have the same depth as some of the premier teams. Yeah,

1123
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: so they've had other injuries on defense, and this defense

1124
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: is vulnerable. So I think Oregon State, who by the way,

1125
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned Corvallis seventeen and one against the spread at

1126
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: home in their past eighteen home games seventeen to one, insane.

1127
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I think Orkan Stet's could be a

1128
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: move the ball now Washington, especially if they get McMillan back.

1129
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: They already have two of the best other receivers in

1130
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: the country and you have Penix at quarterback. They're gonna

1131
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: be able to throw it a bit. They can do

1132
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: that against anyone in Oregon State two good safeties corners

1133
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: a little week they're oh, just okay, So Washington's gonna

1134
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: be able to throw it. But what Oregon State does

1135
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: really well and does better than almost any team in

1136
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: the country because they're just so well coached, is they

1137
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: are elite in the red zone and on offense and defense.

1138
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: So no more because they can run the ball so

1139
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: well they are they just finished drives off with touchdowns

1140
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: more times not and that's gonna be easy to do

1141
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: against Washington. And then they they kind of bend but

1142
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: don't break on defense. Washington, meanwhile, they're really bad in

1143
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: the red zone on both ends. Part of that is

1144
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: their offense once they kind of get reduced in space

1145
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: it's harder for that offense to operate. So I think

1146
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: Wahing it's gonna be able to do the ball. I mean,

1147
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: that's just what they do. They're gonna lead offense. But

1148
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: I think Organs it's gonna get a couple stops in

1149
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: the red zone and they're gonna finish off more of

1150
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: their drives of the touchdown. That's what's gonna come down to.

1151
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this game should be close competitive, but it's

1152
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: a clash style. I mean, if you a style of class,

1153
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: I should say, if you know you're gonna have this

1154
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: one team that wants to line up and shotgun throw

1155
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: it all over the field and the other team that

1156
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: wants to kind of just grind and pound you to death.

1157
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: And they can hit explosive runs too. So yeah, it's

1158
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: I love this. The atmosphere should be great. I bet

1159
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: Oregon State. I think Washington goes down and then Oregon

1160
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: State could knock off Washington and then you know that

1161
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: gift with the Grim Reaper, and then next week they

1162
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: could beat Oregon, knock Oregon out. And this is what

1163
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve does. They usually catabalize themselves and they

1164
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: would go to the Pac twelve championship game.

1165
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: I got the DraftKings Sports Casino right down the street

1166
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: from my house. I think I'm gonna go down there

1167
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: tomorrow and place a large wager on Oregon State that game.

1168
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: That's I think that's the type game you just control

1169
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: the clock. You don't give their offense a chance. I

1170
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: like Jonathan Smith could be a could could be a

1171
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: nail in the coffin of his pursuit to a new

1172
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: you know, I don't even know if he'd leave. He's

1173
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: from there. He was a quarterback when Chad Johnson was

1174
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. But you win a game like this

1175
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: with everyone paying attention on a kind of a down

1176
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: week night game, I mean it's that'd be a big

1177
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: moment for the dude. So I'm a I'm a giant

1178
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: Jonathan Smith fan. Let's get in the NFL. The ramsta

1179
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: and Bennett made an appearance a couple of weeks ago

1180
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: at Georgia, so he's alive, but he's not on the Rams.

1181
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: So they had to sign Carson Wentz. But it looks

1182
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: like Matt Stafford's back this week playing Seattle, who wins

1183
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: a lot of weird games. Their games just are never

1184
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: easy though that they clearly headed to the playoffs. Sean McVeigh,

1185
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: little bye week, Take deep breath, baby, you know what

1186
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: are you thinking? Rams plus one at home against Seattle? Yeah,

1187
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: this game, this game is in La.

1188
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I like the Rams here. The This is

1189
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: part of the circle of life in the NFC West.

1190
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: There's like certain teams and you know now because like

1191
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: Arizona's changed a little bit, but it used to be

1192
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: the Rams own the Cardinals, who owned the forty nine ers,

1193
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: who owned the Rams, who also owned the Seahawks who

1194
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: won the forty nine ers. Like this is not what

1195
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: it used to be, which and there was a certain

1196
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: teas of matchup. Well one of them is the and

1197
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: this one still holds is the Rams own the Seahawks.

1198
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,479
Speaker 1: McVeigh just owns that defense. And they don't run pure

1199
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: cover three like they used to, but they still run

1200
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: a good amount in Seattle, and McVeigh just rips it

1201
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: apart nine and one against the spread in their past

1202
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: ten meetings, including the postseason. Even last year, the Seawks

1203
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: had to win twice to get into the playoffs. Late

1204
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: in the season against their ms, the Rams had John

1205
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: Wolford and then they signed Baker Mayfield off the street.

1206
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: The Rams covered both those games. The Seahawks went by

1207
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: three and three. They barely won both of those games.

1208
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: Go back to Week one. I mean, Stafford absolutely dominated

1209
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: them and they ran away in Seattle. So and by

1210
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 1: the way, I think Seattle has San Francisco a little

1211
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: bit of a and you know, you have the Rams

1212
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: coming off of a bye, getting healthier. They should get

1213
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: their linebacker back, their right tackle back, and then Stafford Stafford.

1214
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: And you know the Seahawks coming off a hard fought

1215
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: game forty nine ers on a short week coming up.

1216
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: So it's a bad, bad situational spot. But this, you

1217
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: know what, Ultimately it's Matt Stafford and those receivers are

1218
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: going to be able to rip apart what I think

1219
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: is a semi overrated Seattle defense. I mean, look, you

1220
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: saw what happened when they went to Baltimore last week.

1221
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: Sam Howe looked like an all pro through all. I mean,

1222
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: just absolutely turned off. They don't get a ton of

1223
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: natural pressure. I think their secondary I love the kid Witherspoon,

1224
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: but just as a whole is attackable and Gino Smith,

1225
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: I think we'll make a key mistake or two here

1226
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: and Rams will come out of the bye McVeigh good

1227
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: off of bye, great off of a loss, one of

1228
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: the most profitable head coaches in NFL history off the loss,

1229
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: and this is just a great matchup for them. Matt

1230
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: Rams matchup really well. Now how to attack that defense?

1231
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll take the Rams plus one at home

1232
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: against Seattle.

1233
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: Okay, the Lions. It wasn't a primetime game, but it

1234
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: was the afternoon game on a shitty slate, and everyone

1235
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: was watching Lions, Chargers get any norse miswin and kind

1236
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: of solidify themselves as clearly you know, Niners, Eagles, them Cowboys,

1237
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: big four in the NFC by far. There's no one

1238
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: else that he is, even in their level. Division games

1239
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: get weird and listen ebra Flus Why I think physically

1240
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 2: he looks terrible, like bro needs a tan, he needs

1241
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 2: to eat, looks like he knows he's gonna get fired.

1242
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: Their defense has been playing better over these last several games.

1243
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Division games. Just I don't care what your record are.

1244
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: There's also a human element to this, Like at this point,

1245
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: I know the Lions haven't done anything, but they're clearly

1246
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: good and they got up for the Charger game like

1247
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: it's hard to watch the Bears and take them as seriously.

1248
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: When you're playing a Division two quarterback, I guess Fields

1249
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: could start this week, so he's gonna have fresh legs.

1250
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: That makes them a little more dangerous. I mean, Badge

1251
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: any moment could have a decent play, but he also

1252
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: can look pretty terrible. There's an element running here. I

1253
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: think some of these division games stucky. I think I

1254
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: might the Giants, I would throw away right now, but

1255
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: you get more of a touchdown. I don't care how

1256
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: bad the team is, especially with if you have your

1257
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. Is that a bad philosophy to have late

1258
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: in the year because I think everyone's all just blowouts.

1259
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: That's not usually the way it works.

1260
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. I mean if you go back historically, divisional

1261
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: dogs of seven or more at any point in the

1262
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: season are like fifty four percent against the spread over

1263
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: the past fifty years. That's really really good. Everywhere else

1264
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: you look, it's fifty percent just in an efficient NFL

1265
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: market to close, and you know teams that are if

1266
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: you even filter it further, like teams that have been

1267
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: covering a lot and against winning teams where the market

1268
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: might be a little inflated In you know, November December

1269
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: it gets up to like fifty nine to sixty percent,

1270
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: which this fits. So yeah, I think design is just

1271
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: a little bit two eyes coming down. I think it

1272
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: should be a touchdown, but it's still still eight. I

1273
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: played some eight and a half nine nine and a

1274
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: half fields should play. Was announced that he's good to go.

1275
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: Get a little couple extra days of rest here too.

1276
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: They played on Thursday night, so a little extended by

1277
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: I think this is the peak of the marketing lines.

1278
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: They're really good. Their defense is still not good. They've

1279
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: played some horrendous quarterbacks this year, or like early in

1280
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: the season, backups and just bad quarterbacks, and they got

1281
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: their numbers were a bit and plated. Anytime they've stepped

1282
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: up in class. They can't get a stop and they

1283
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: can't stop any mobile quarterbacks. You know, even quarterbacks have

1284
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: move a little bit. I mean, you saw what Herbert

1285
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: did last week, Lamar Jackson, I mean just ran them

1286
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: out of a building.

1287
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: So their secondary stakes horrendous.

1288
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Bears offensive line is they're getting a

1289
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: little bit better. Their offensive line is healthier fields apparently

1290
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: from some of the things I've read, he's worked like

1291
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: his five and seven uh step dropbacks where he was

1292
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: so slow and like just and then you can't do

1293
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: that in the NFL. Apparently he's like sped up to

1294
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, an NFL over the that's what he's been

1295
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: working on. So him just getting back there quicker. But

1296
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: you have him using his legs here, you know, you

1297
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: have a healthier wide receiver room that's improved. And then

1298
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned of the defense. Bear's run defense is top

1299
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: five in the NFL this year. So the Rundy's been

1300
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: really good because you know, they spend all their money

1301
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: on their linebackers, but the over the past three or

1302
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: four weeks their defense is trending up in the secondary

1303
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: because their secondary is healthy. You know, Jalen Johnson's playing better.

1304
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: You got Jackson and Brisker back at safety, and both

1305
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: your corners are actually playing pretty well. Gordon and Johnson.

1306
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: They were one of the top five teams the NFL

1307
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: defending number one receivers, so they could kind of hang

1308
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: in the run game, hang against aman Ra. That's they

1309
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: can kind of hang around here. And why is this

1310
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: the secondaries? Not only is it healthier, you also can

1311
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: get an edge rush now because you had sweat you

1312
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: had nothing you had in Gocway, who can still get

1313
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: there once in a while, but he's older, and then

1314
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: teams just say, all right, we'll take you away. But

1315
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: now you have sweat. You know, against the Panthers, they

1316
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: were getting a ton of pressure before that, they were

1317
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 1: dead last the NFL and pressure rate. That obviously helps

1318
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: the secondary as well. I don't know they're gonna get

1319
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure of the line's offensive line as elite,

1320
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: but this defense is definitely better than the numbers it's

1321
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: put up. So defense is improving fields back. Pretty good

1322
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: matchup here, can use his legs. We'll hit some throws

1323
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: against this bad line. Secondary divisional game catching over a touchdown.

1324
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: Got to go with the Bears here.

1325
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: I think one of the weirdest seasons we've ever seen

1326
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: is the Browns when you factor in all the weird

1327
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: shit with de Sean Watson, because it was clear earlier,

1328
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: like goddamn, this defense is elite, and you know, then

1329
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: you lose Chubb like they did. Was that a Monday

1330
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: night foot Yeah, I was against Steelers on Monday Night football.

1331
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: If I just had some devastating injuries and then he finally, however,

1332
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: many games into his career. Technically it's more than twelve,

1333
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: but he it's his twelve start. He has the best

1334
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: half of football he'd ever had right fourteen to fourteen,

1335
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: had a two point conversion, had a touchdown throw. He

1336
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: just looked like a solid player. And if he was

1337
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: a solid player, he went like, why couldn't that team

1338
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: be in the AFC Championship if he's just solid? And

1339
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: then a couple of days later he's out for the

1340
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: season with a broken bone or something, and it's it's

1341
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: still bizarre to me whatever twenty four hours after it

1342
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: was announced, but it is what it is. I mean,

1343
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: he's crying in his prescott like he's gone. So now

1344
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: they're going with the backup quarterback. To me, this definitely

1345
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. On the short term you might get

1346
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 2: a little juice, but the long term, like you look

1347
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: at their schedule, it is manageable, but I can't take

1348
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: them seriously as a playoff contender now with him gone,

1349
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: dtr starting clearly you might as what's the point in Like,

1350
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: we're not in trying to just win now mode to

1351
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: try to get to Sean back. He's gone, you might

1352
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: as well just go with the young guy that makes

1353
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: me nervous though, man, I mean, I think a huge

1354
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: advantage he had in the preseason dtr who was I'd say,

1355
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: one of the guys that everyone went like, God, it's

1356
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: this guy star. He was a fifth year senior, he

1357
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: had played forever in college. You know, the preseason there

1358
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: aren't You're just playing the same defense over and over.

1359
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: And then we saw him in the real game against

1360
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: the Ravens and it was a joke. So playing the Steelers,

1361
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: you know, I don't really love now this game isn't home,

1362
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: but still I think I guess that Ravens game was

1363
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: at home too. Huh when he when he got the

1364
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: start because they just beat the Ravens in Baltimore. Yeh, Listen,

1365
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: the Steelers offense makes you nervous. I don't give a

1366
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: shit if they're playing Alabama, but I just have a

1367
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: hard time rookie quarterback who just looks so bad, and

1368
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: I think you got to throw away that preseason. I

1369
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 2: can't really bet the Steelers because they play in the

1370
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: same freaking game all the time. But I don't know.

1371
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 2: The Browns make me nervous.

1372
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played the Browns here I was I wouldn't

1373
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: have laid over three last week. Well, we didn't recap

1374
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: last week. I can tell you about the Steelers luck

1375
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 1: because I watched it firsthand.

1376
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: Last week we had three and a half the Packers

1377
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: and he's throwing a touchdown and bounces off the DV

1378
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: right into the safety's hand.

1379
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Not only that, Yeah, that was what Luckily the

1380
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: Texans and Cowboys got there easy. Packers should have covered.

1381
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: They the two things happened. They miss an extra point,

1382
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: otherwise they would have tied the game a million times.

1383
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: They went up and down the field. They had four

1384
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: hn yards offense this dead off. By the way, I

1385
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: think the Steelers defense they'd overrated. They have two they

1386
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: have great defensive line and Edgewister they're going to make plays.

1387
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: But Jordan Love all of a sudden, looked like an

1388
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: All Pro last week moving the ball up and down

1389
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: the field. How about a couple weeks ago Will Levis

1390
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Everyone's like, oh, you can't complete a

1391
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: pass now, So the Steelers defense think might be a

1392
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: bit overrated. But last week there's a backwards pass. Kenny

1393
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: Pickett just turns around, throws it backwards three yards. It's

1394
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: clear the Packers get it. Go to the three yard line.

1395
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: They reviewed it and just said it stands. If you

1396
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: haven't seen that, I was.

1397
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: I miss that.

1398
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely perplexed the luck that the Steelers have had. They've

1399
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 1: had six wins, all by one possession, all in comeback fashion.

1400
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: They've been out gained in all nine games. There's only

1401
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: been twenty teams over the last hundred years that have

1402
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,839
Speaker 1: been out gained in all nine games. That's the company

1403
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: that they're in. They're the only team with the winning

1404
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: records and they're six and three. They're expected wins if

1405
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: you go performances too. They should were basically playing like

1406
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: a two and seventeam. Go back to the Browns game.

1407
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: They came back to beat the Browns. You know, they

1408
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: had the two defensive touchdowns late, they had negative yards

1409
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: over the final twenty minutes, and they came back from

1410
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: ten down with negative yards. This team is a complete fraud.

1411
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean, like, their offense is so bad, it's it's

1412
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: poorly schemes picke It is horrendous. They're just getting so

1413
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: lucky in so many facets and there's gonna be a

1414
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: ton of regression coming. Kind of reminds me of that

1415
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: team that started out like what ten to zero a

1416
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: couple of years back, and then they took their medicine

1417
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. But yeah, so when I

1418
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: look at this game, I wasn't gonna lay over three

1419
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: and with a low scoring game. And for what it's worth,

1420
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: this is the spread is now Browns minus one, and

1421
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: I like Cleveland here totals down to thirty three we

1422
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: and if you go back, I don't just maybe kind

1423
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: of random go back. Over the past thirty years, home

1424
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: teams and divisional games with a total of thirty four

1425
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: less have gone twenty five and eight against the spread

1426
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: sixty seventy six percent. I don't know why, Like why

1427
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: could just be random to small sample size, or it

1428
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: could just be like these games are super low scoring

1429
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: and the home team just makes another play in front

1430
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 1: of the crowd.

1431
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1432
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is is that we haven't seen

1433
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: this scoring isn't as low as it used to be.

1434
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: The last time we saw this twenty twelve spread was

1435
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: one total was thirty three. Brown's hosting the Steelers, Brown

1436
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: starting a rookie quarterback in that game. Brown's win on

1437
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: eight Pittsburgh turnovers. So that was the last time we've

1438
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: seen it. I found that interesting when I was digging

1439
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: into the game. But I just try. I trust the

1440
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: Browns defense here. They're I think they're the best defense

1441
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're going up against this horrendous, horrendous

1442
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: Steels offense. I couldn't do a thing in the first matchup.

1443
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean literally a thing. Dtr looked horrendous, but was

1444
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: playing against a really good Ravens defense. Found that he

1445
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: was playing starting that day that morning, wasn't running with

1446
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: the ones. I mean, that's an impossible test for a

1447
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. So he at least got his beak wet.

1448
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: I liked what I saw from college. I don't think

1449
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna ask him to do much. I mean they're

1450
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna hand it off, punt it, and then rely on

1451
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 1: their defense. After that game against the Ravens, you know,

1452
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: and this game is huge for the Browns, They're just

1453
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: gonna say, look, we'll run, run, run, Maybe we'll take

1454
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: a deep shot where if you throw a pick a play.

1455
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: Action, why don't they go Michigan Michigan Penn State level

1456
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: game plan?

1457
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: Should I? Actually I suggested on my podcast that I

1458
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: would punt on first down every first down, I'd punt

1459
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: because you take away the Steelers voodoo of like fumbles,

1460
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: and then you maximize the amount of times that Kenny

1461
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: Pickett has the ball against that defense. So I would

1462
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: just I would just not have a quarterback. I'd have

1463
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: my quarterbacks is sitting there in case I'm down late.

1464
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: That's it. But I would just punt on first down. Uh.

1465
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: It's only semi joking, but the Browns defense is the

1466
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: best unit in this game with two questionable you know,

1467
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: quarterback situations, and it's gonna come down to who can

1468
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: make a play on defense. I'm gonna trust the Browns

1469
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: at home. I think d TWR will look a little

1470
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: bit better. There's a ton of regression coming for the

1471
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: Steelers team that just is getting lucky every single week

1472
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and that just simply won't keep up.

1473
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: So I think will look a little better. But the

1474
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: Browns are gonna do much here on offense, and I

1475
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: think the Browns defense will come to play and ultimately

1476
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: win this game. It'll end like, go win it, like

1477
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: thirteen to ten. So yeah, take the Browns minus one.

1478
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna say thirteen to nine.

1479
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: That feels like this game third feels right.

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Speaker 2: Nine okay, stucky, go beaves and.

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Speaker 1: Yets enjoy the week, Let's do it, let's get to

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Speaker 1: the window with the beavers, and yeah, good luck to steel.

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Speaker 1: Maybe see you next week. The volume