1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It is a much much different looking team in the 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we talk Seahawks, 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: our final stop on our tour of the NFC West. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: John Boyle joins me. He covers the Seahawks and for 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: the first time in a long long time, we'll be 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: covering a team not coach by Pete Carroll. Again, that 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: is going to be different. So what are the expectations 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: under new head coach Mike McDonald. It's Cardinals Cover two, 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Episode seven sixty nine and it starts now. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig three Elte. 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: First things first, hope everyone had a great Fourth of 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: July weekend. We are one week closer until the start 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: of training camp and if you haven't or need to 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: check again, Azycardinals dot Com has all the information about 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: the Open practices, your first look at the team you've 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: been reading about or seeing online and social media. And remember, 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: you can't beat free again Azycardinals dot com. The Cardinals 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: have nine scheduled open practices. The team reports to State 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium on July twenty third. Okay, the last team 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: to talk about on our tour around the NFC West 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: is the Seattle Seahawks. They went nine to eight last season, 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs for the second time in three seasons, 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: and then stunned a lot of people by firing head 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: coach Pete Carroll. I for one, didn't see that coming 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Earlier this offseason, I had the chance to catch up 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: with John Boyle, senior reporter for Seahawks dot Com and 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the Peecarroll News is where the conversation began again. For 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: the first time in fourteen years, the Seahawks are being 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: coached by someone other than Carol. Sounds strange this saying it. 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: How strange has it been? 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is definitely an adjustment. You know, 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: I've covered this team, you know, going back to my 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 3: newspaper days for the entire Pete Carroll John Schneider era, 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: So it was definitely different, you know, I think me 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: and me and some of the other writers we caught 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: ourselves talking about you have the combine or you know, 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 3: the league meanings like oh, when are we going to 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: talk to Pete and John and like, oh, wait, nope, 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 3: it's not Pete anymore. So, you know, you get used 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: to the same guy being there forever, and he obviously 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: did some great things for the franchise, but they went 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: another direction and now it's you know, for all of us, 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: it's getting to know a new staff and to know 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: how they like to do things and just kind of 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: see how it's all gonna look on the football field 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: here once training camp gets gone. 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that new man in charge, Mike McDonald, former Ravens 55 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. First impressions for him, and I know it's 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: limited as far as on field and off the field work, 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: but just what is what's it been like with him 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: in the building and his coaching style compared to what 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: you've known for a long time. 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously each guy's going to have their 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: difference personality wise, and you know, practice still a little different. 62 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: But you know, first impressions of the mic it's kind 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: of what you hear from all players is really sharp dude, 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: just pretty football So you know, not that every coach 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: isn't into football, but like this guy you can tell 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: just like lives and breathes it and it's uh, it's 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: you know, been his whole life really since as soon 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: as he got you know, finished playing, he was to 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: start coaching in high school. Still, so he's been you know, 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: living this life for a long time. And all the 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: players talk about just how sharp he is and the 72 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: way he communicates things, and you know, I've noticed, you know, 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: I think he's got he's got this reputation being this 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: really kind of serious football guy, but he does have 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: a little sense of humor. It's maybe a little more 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: subtle and you have to get you know, get to 77 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: know him a little bit. But yeah, I mean, everybody's 78 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: really enjoying having him around so far, and it seems 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: like he's fitting into the culture. That was a big 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: thing you know that he and John Tryre talked about 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: when he got ht when Mike got hired, is like 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: they're not coming in. You know, this wasn't some broken 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: two wind franchise that you got to start over. Like 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: he's embracing you know, they want to do things their 85 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: own way. He's not trying to be Pete Carroll, but 86 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 3: he's also embracing the fact that Pete Carroll and John 87 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: Shire built something pretty amazing here and a really good 88 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: culture in the building. So you know, he's trying to 89 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: come in put his own stamp on it, but also 90 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: embrace the culture that's that's been here for a long time. 91 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: I do want to get to the offensive and defensive coordinators. 92 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: But the hire of Leslie Frasier, former Vikings head coach, 93 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: longtime assistant brought on board to be the assistant head coach. 94 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: He's got experience. Mike McDonald has no experience at age 95 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: thirty six. How important was it to have someone on 96 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: the sideline maybe to lend an ear for Mike? 97 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, I think it's it's not a 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: coincidence that the very first hire he made, almost immediately 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: after getting the job was going out and finding a veteran, 100 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: you know, really well respected, experienced coach and Leslie Fraser 101 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: to be the assistant head coach. You know, I think 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: it's just it's sort of a no brainer when you're 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: a young, first time head coach, because it's like you 104 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: can be the best football mind in the in the 105 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: world and know everything. There is no bad defense, but 106 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: it's such a big job you haven't been through it. 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: Having someone who has is really valuable. You know. Kind 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: of reminds me when Sean McVeigh got hired. He went 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: out and brought in I think as Wade Phillips as 110 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator for those first few years. It's just 111 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: you know, put a guy in there that you know, 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: they have a little experience together. I think they're together 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: a year in Baltimore early in Mike's career. But yeah, 114 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: Letslie Fraser. I've had a few chances to talk to him. 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: Just really good dude. Obviously knows a ton having been 116 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: around the league for so long. So those two guys 117 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: are spending a ton of time together. You know, he's 118 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: you know, he's really involved Leslie Frasier is and just 119 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: about everything Mike mcgoalds is doing. Just to give him 120 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: that sounding board anytime something comes up. 121 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Certainly does make a lot of sense. Now, is Mike 122 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: McDonald calling the defense. 123 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: Yes, he will. That's one thing he talked about, you know, 124 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: since it's it's he's bringing largely his defense from Baltimore here. 125 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: It just you know, it makes the most sense for 126 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 3: him to be the one calling it because he knows 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: it best. But he did say early on, like, look, 128 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: there's probably going to be a point at some point 129 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: when Adam Dirday the new defensive cornario, when he's feeling 130 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: more comfortable and just the way the team's going. You know, 131 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: maybe it's a year down the road, maybe it's a 132 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: couple of seasons, who knows, But he's open to the 133 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: idea of passing those duties off at some point. But 134 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: he just feels like this first year, getting everything installed 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: and doing it, it's just gonna be easiest for him 136 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: to be the one calling it because of his defense. 137 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: The Ravens always a very solid defense. The Seahawks last 138 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: year not great, thirtieth in the league, much like the Cardinals, 139 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: hard to stop the run a lot of the time 140 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: last season. So how do you think defensively the Seahawks 141 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four will look compared to twenty twenty three. 142 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you're hoping it looks a lot better. And 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: that's why. I mean, you went out and hired the 144 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: top defensive guy out there, so I mean there's a 145 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: lot more talent on the CF defense I think than 146 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: maybe the numbers would bear out. Early in the season, 147 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: they were stopping their run pretty well, I think through 148 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: four or five games, and then number of factors. You know, 149 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: they had some injuries. Hannan Nuoso, one of their outside linebackers, 150 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: he was really one of their best defensive players for 151 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: the year plus he's been here healthy, he was out 152 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: for the season, and you know, not just his injury, 153 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: but that with a few of those things kind of 154 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: compounded to just some real struggles. So yeah, I mean, 155 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: that'll be you know, probably the biggest thing coming in 156 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: is can they be better against the run. They've got 157 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: some talent the secondary, some question marks and linebacker. You 158 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: and Bobby Wagner and Jordan Brooks left in free agencies, 159 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: so they went out and signed a couple of new 160 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: guys in Jerome Baker and Tyrel Dotson to potentially be 161 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: the starters there. So you know, if the linebacker play 162 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: can be good and if those guys up front they 163 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: like the death and talent they have upfront, so you know, 164 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: they expect this defense to be quite a bit better 165 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 3: than it was last season. 166 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the linebackers, though. Baker and 167 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Dotson both nursing injuries. So right now as we speak 168 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: here in the offseason and their status for training camp 169 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: in the regular season, is there a concern because you 170 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: brought it up? I mean, no, Bobby Wagner, that's going 171 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: to take some getting used to. And then Jordan Brooks 172 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: leaving in free agency as well. 173 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the way we heard from Mike McColloch 174 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: during OK's meeting camp, there's not a ton of concern 175 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: about Dotson and Baker. You know, they're availability for training 176 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: camp now do that. I mean, they're going to be 177 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: full go day one it camp, probably not just because 178 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: they missed so much of the off season stuff. They 179 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: might need a ramp up. But you know, I my 180 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: understand that neither of these are serious things that they're 181 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: worried about. It was just giving them a little more time, 182 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 3: so you know, they they would probably pencil in into 183 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: the front runners to be starting job starters, those off 184 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: ball linebacker spots. But the CFS did draft tyres Knight 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: in the fourth round out of Utah, really productive player 186 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: in college, so you know he can make a push. 187 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: And then they've got you know, kind of a couple 188 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: of special team younger guys that were filling in throughout 189 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: the off season that you know, you might not necessarily 190 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: expect to be started, but they showed pretty well in 191 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 3: the off season. And that's John Radagaan and Patrick O'Connell. 192 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: So you know, depth wise, I feel like they're developing 193 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: some guys there. But yeah, they they need to get 194 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: Dawson Baker on the field and kind of see what 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: they have for those two, who again presumably will be 196 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: the top two. 197 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: Guys on the defensive line. Byron Murphy the second the 198 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: second defensive player selected in April's draft sixteenth overall, what 199 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: do you expect his role to be, especially after the 200 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: decision to re sign Leonard Williams in free agency. 201 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think it's big for him that 202 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: he's coming into the situation with Leonard Williams coming back 203 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: with you know, Jaring Reeds another mainstay in that defensive front. 204 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: They've got Draymont Jones, and they went out and you know, 205 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: added Jonathan Hankins, a veterans and kind of run stopping guy. 206 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 3: So he's not going to be asked to come in 207 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: and be just the guy anchored in that defensive line 208 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: and be an every down player. You know, he'll play 209 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: obviously and have a big role and they're expecting big 210 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: things from him. But I do think the plan, you know, 211 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: a big kind of word of the offseason was versatility 212 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: to talk about that defensive front, like there's they're moving 213 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: guys around a lot. Leonard Williams said, they've got him 214 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: right now learning six different spots along that defensive line. 215 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: So you know, I think Murphy's role will be to 216 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: you know, come in and be disruptive when they need 217 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: him and be able to play a few different spots 218 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: up front. But they're not going to ask him to 219 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: be the guy that just comes in and you know, 220 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: controls the whole defensive line, because that's that's a big 221 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: ass for a rookie. 222 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Sounds a lot like what the Cardinals are doing with 223 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson. The versatility that's been a buzzword with Jonathan 224 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Gannon here. Is that much of a change for the 225 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Seahawks And what Pete Carroll like to do defensively now 226 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: versus what Mike McDonald wants to do. 227 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll have to see exactly what it looks like, 228 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: but no, I mean it's nothing drastic. I don't think 229 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: you can really be a modern NFL defense and just 230 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 3: have you know, static, you just play nose tackle, you 231 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: just play five techniques whatever like. You know, you got 232 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: to be able to move guys around, be a little deceptive, 233 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: do different things. Now, it seems from what we're seeing 234 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: in here and early on, it might be a little 235 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: more of that, a little more drastic. But you know, 236 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: they had Draymond Jones playing a bunch of different spots 237 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: last year. Jaren Reid was moving around, Larryn Williams was 238 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: moving around, I mean, most famously back in his heyday, 239 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: Michael Vannett was kind of the one of the premier 240 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: guys in the NFL and being that inside out threat. 241 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: So no, I mean, I don't think it's a huge 242 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: change for what they're doing, but it just seems to 243 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: be a really big point emphasis right now. 244 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 1: One more question on the defense, and that's in the secondary. 245 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: I know a couple of cornerbacks were selected in the draft, 246 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: but you have two very solid Starughters and Devin Witherspoon 247 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: and Rick Wooland Witherspoon had a great rookie season, will 248 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: and appeared to have a sophomore slump at least numbers wise. 249 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: What's the expectations for those two going into this season. 250 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think maybe wolves struggles were a 251 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 3: little overblown. Last year. He did, you know, take a 252 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: little step back in terms of the interceptions. He was 253 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: dealing with a shoulder in during the season that really 254 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: affected his ability to tackle and that actually led to 255 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: him being held out of I think as one or 256 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: two starts, just where they were worried about, you know, 257 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: he just couldn't really tackle guys because he was lacking 258 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: the strength in that shoulder. But he looked really good 259 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: in camp. He hurt his knee last year in the 260 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: offseason and had knee scoped and it kind of set 261 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: him back and I think that might have just affected 262 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: his whole season. So the fact that he's healthy, he 263 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: looked really sharp. I mean, you mentioned Weatherspoon. He was 264 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: one of the top rookies in the league last year, 265 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: and I think, you know, everyone's pretty excited to see 266 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: how McDonald's will use him. Kyle Hamilton's obviously a very 267 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: different player, but just sort of that idea of like 268 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: a super talented chess piece in the secondary, see what 269 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald can do with that, and then you know 270 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: they've got you mentioned the rookies they drafted. Neither of 271 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: those are really need picks. It was just one of 272 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: those classic like, hey, we're into the third day and 273 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: these guys are really sticking out on a draft board 274 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: for how much higher they are than everybody else. So 275 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: they took both me and my preacher and DJ James 276 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: even though they feel like they're already pretty deep there. 277 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: So in terms of like starting jobs, I don't necessarily 278 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 3: see those guys factoring and I didn't mentioned yet, but 279 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 3: they've got Trey Brown's a guy who's started a bunch 280 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: of games last years and been really solid as well. 281 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: So they feel really deep there. You know, those rookies, 282 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're going to expect them to be big 283 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: special teams guys prove some depth. But yeah, i'd say, 284 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: you know going into camp that maybe receiver or probably 285 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: two of the deepest positions on this roster. 286 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: All right. That leads me to the offense, and not 287 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: only a first year head coach, first year defensive coordinator, 288 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: but a first year offensive coordinator, Ryan Grubb hired to 289 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: be the OC. I don't know how much of a 290 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: move it was for him coming from the University of Washington, 291 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: but that college background. I saw a number looking up 292 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: on Ryan Grubb that the Huskies averaged almost thirty eight 293 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: points a game during his time there. How much of 294 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: the college game do you think he'll bring to the Seahawks. 295 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you talk to people who really you know, 296 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 3: I don't pay as much chance to college football is 297 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: the NFL obviously, but you talk to people who really 298 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: are you know, dialed into college and it's not a 299 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: you know, gimmicky college offense that he's doing there that 300 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: doesn't translate. Like I think the concepts in the passing game, 301 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: the way he gets you know, mismatches, the way he 302 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: gets guys open, the way he kind of cann exploit 303 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: weakness in defense, people expect that to translate. And I 304 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: think you know, the players have talked really, you know, 305 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: really highly about it. Players love it, Geo Smith says, 306 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: fits him really well. So you know, look, I don't 307 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: think we'll see the run or the past run imbalance 308 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: that he had in college, where when you've got Michael 309 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: Panick and you've got a doom day and you've got 310 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: all these guys, that's like, hey, we can just sling 311 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: it around because we're so much better at those positions 312 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: than a college defense. You know, he understands. He's talked 313 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: about this. Ryan Grebb has it like some of the 314 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: things we do in college aren't necessarily going to work. 315 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: Just like when he was coaching the lower levels of 316 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: college and moved up to the you know, University of Washington. 317 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: Some of the stuff at the lower levels won't work 318 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: in the Pac twelve. So you know, he understands he's 319 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: going to have to adjust some of what he does. 320 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: They're probably gonna have to run the ball more, and 321 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: they're very excited about the running backs they have here. 322 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I don't think there's much concern that, oh, 323 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: this is a college offense that won't work in the NFL. 324 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: Guys really seem to like what he's bringing to this 325 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: offense on. 326 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: The field leading that offense. This is Gene Smith's team. Correct. 327 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: As far as starting. 328 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: Quarterback, absolutely, yeah. I mean, I know there's some speculation 329 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: when they went out and traded for Sam Howell that 330 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: there could be a competition, and look, I mean Sam 331 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: Howell is a competitor. He's been a starter, he wants 332 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: to be a starter, So he's not going to just 333 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: lay down and not try. But you know, Mike McDonald, 334 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: John Schneider, everybody's made it clear that this is Gino's offense, 335 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: and you know, no disrespects Sam Howell, but it's been 336 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: pretty clear that you know, what we've seen so far 337 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: on the field that Gino Smith looks like the best 338 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: quarterback out there, which is what you'd expect. You know, 339 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: he's your Pro Bowl starting quarterback. So yeah, I mean 340 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: there's gonna be the questions about the long term of 341 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: this position. People thought they might draft a quarterback each 342 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: in the last two years and they haven't. You know, 343 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: Geo Smith is you know, I think he's only in 344 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: a contract one more year. I don't have that right 345 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: in front of me, So you know, yes, there's gonna 346 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: be conversations about the long term. But he's the guy 347 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: right now for sure, and he looks like the best 348 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: guy out there and everyone's really excited about what he 349 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: can do. 350 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Seahawks also added PJ. Walker late in the offseason as 351 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: well running back. You brought it up, Kenneth Walker, Zach Charboney. 352 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a solid one two punch, and of 353 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: course Cardinal fans know what Walker did a year ago 354 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: and has done for against the Cardinals the past couple 355 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: of seasons. But the one name that I think I 356 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about and that's who's no longer with 357 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. But DJ Dallas, I know he didn't 358 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: get a lot of run as far as carrying the 359 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: football with the Seahawks. What are the Cardinals getting in him, 360 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: whether that's running the football or on special teams? 361 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean starting on special teams. Great special teams player. 362 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: You know, Pete Carroll could not ever say enough good thing. 363 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: He loved DJ Dallas just for like what he brought 364 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: on special teams. He can return kicks, he can return punts, 365 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: he's he'll be physical, he'll go cover, you know, be 366 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: on coverage teams, block whatever you need from him. Just 367 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: really good locker room guy too. Just he's a guy 368 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: that you know, great with the media. I really pocking 369 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: with his teammates and there as a running back. You know, 370 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: he never really got his chance to be the guy here, 371 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: but you know he can. He can run the ball 372 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: pretty well. He's a really good pass rusher. You know, 373 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: various times of his career he was kind of the 374 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: primary third down guy for the Seahawks offense. So yeah, 375 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: you know, he's a guy that you know, you can 376 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: understand where just with the death of the position, he 377 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: wasn't a priority and pree agency for the Seahawks, and 378 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: why he would want to take a shot to get 379 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: more playing time elsewhere. But really good, you know, contributor 380 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: in a lot of areas. I you know, I don't 381 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: really see him as a guy's gonna go in and 382 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: be just a total superstar there. I'd love for him 383 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: from me wrong, because like I said, love the guy. 384 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: A good, good dude just to be around, but very versatile, 385 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: very good special teams player. I think Cardinals fans are 386 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: gonna like him a lot. 387 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: How are the Seahawks do you think with grub now 388 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: as the OC. As far as Walker and Charbonney splitting 389 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: those carries, I know it's it's you hardly ever see 390 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: RB one the entire season. You always see that solid 391 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: number two. But as far as maybe splitting more evenly 392 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: those carries this season, yeah. 393 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: You know, well we'll see what it looks like. You know. See, 394 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: they did a lot of good things on offense last year, 395 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: but they were not a very good third down team, 396 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: which meant they didn't get you know, a lot of 397 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: the sustained drives, and that combined with the defensive struggles 398 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: they were you know, kind of possession wise, you know, 399 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: number of snaps wise. They just their offense wasn't on 400 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: the field a lot last year, which makes it hard 401 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: to get to you know, deep in your running game 402 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: where you get to get you know, your starter a 403 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: bunch of carries and lean on the backup. So it 404 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: you know, I think a lot of how that's you know, 405 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: Walker to me is still the number one guy and 406 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 3: he's going to get the majority of the carries. But 407 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: to me, how much a guy like Sharvining gets used 408 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: can sometimes be a function of how the offense functioning overall, 409 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: how are they doing on third down to you know, 410 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: get those you know games where you have sixty plays 411 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 3: instead of forty five offensive plays. So I you know, 412 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: I know they like them both. They love the versatility 413 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: of or kind of the difference of the two. They're 414 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: they're not similar in a lot of what they do. 415 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: Sharpny is a you know, bigger, more of a thumper, 416 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: and Walker's kind of you know, he could run hard 417 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: and run physical, but he's also a guy that's going 418 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: to make you miss and do crazy things in the 419 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: open field. So I think they expect to use both 420 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: of them quite a bit. But what the balance is 421 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: going to look like, wells have. 422 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: To sort of wait and see when it comes to 423 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. I know there has been a 424 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: lot of talk, maybe not so much for you, but 425 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: least us and nationally, how much longer are we going 426 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: to see DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett on the field together? 427 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: You know, that's that's a great question. I think Tyler 428 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: Lockett's at the point of his career where, you know, 429 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: he hasn't dropped any big hints about retirement, but he's 430 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: going into year ten. He's a guy that's you know, 431 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: had a ton of success. He's basically the number two 432 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: receiver in franchise history in just about every category, behind 433 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer and Steve Largent. So you know, 434 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: again I'm not basus on anything he said, but you know, 435 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: he's also got a virgeoning in real estate career that's 436 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: doing pretty well. So if you know, if he were 437 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: to decide in this season or maybe two to walk away, 438 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: that would not surprise me. Again, I really want to 439 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: emphasize this as not any inside of I'm just getting 440 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: from him, just sort of looking at at where he 441 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: is in his career and all that became Metcalf. Look, 442 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: he's you know, one of the best guys in the 443 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: NFL and they love him, and there's I know that's 444 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: been big, you know, sort of national storyline to wonder 445 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: if he'll get traded, But internally, I've never heard any 446 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: even hint of that. So we'll see. I mean, you know, 447 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: everyone can see what receiver contracts have been doing this offseason, 448 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 3: and he's you know, eventually getting into that point where 449 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 3: he wants to renegotiate. So there's been no you know, 450 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: no signs of him being you know, he showed up 451 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: to he was there for some of the offseason stuff. 452 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: He's there for me, he camp. You know, no grumblings 453 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: at all about his contract or anything like that. So 454 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: I don't see that being an issue at all right now. 455 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: But a year from now, is there conversation to be 456 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: had that you know win Normally the Seahawks was John 457 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: Chriff traditionally looked at redoing contracts as going into the 458 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: final year, So I'm sure maybe that'll be a discussion 459 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: for next offseason. But yeah, I mean, I hope we 460 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: could see those two together for a long time because 461 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: it's been a really fun duo. I you know, they're 462 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: both good dudes. They're very different players stylistically, which is 463 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: kind of fun to have them together. But you know, 464 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: in today's NFL, I think we all know. You just 465 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: you can't predict too far in the future of what 466 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: it's going to look like. 467 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: Of course, none of this matter is offensively for the 468 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks unless that offensive line does its job. You lost 469 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Damian Lewis, Evan Brown, didn't bring back Phil Haynes. What 470 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: does that O line look like? And oh, by the way, 471 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Evan Brown is now here with the Arizona Cardinals. 472 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you just outlined it pretty well. 473 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 3: The interior line is very different than the three starting 474 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 3: interior guys for an opening day last season are all 475 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: gone or currently unsigned. So they did Anthony Bradford with 476 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: a rookie last year. He did start ten games at 477 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: a right guard, so they sort of have a starter back, 478 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: but he's competing for that spot right now. They drafted 479 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: Christian Haynes, and he's the guy that they really expect 480 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: to push for that job. And then kind of under 481 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: the radar name we saw emerge his off season is 482 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: a guy named Clenden Curtis. They added him as an 483 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: undrafted or he was an undraft rookie who they signed 484 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: off of a practice squad early last season when they 485 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: had injuries at tackle, so he was just sort of 486 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: tackle death all last year. But they liked his versatility, 487 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 3: so most of this offseason he was the number one 488 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: right guard. They probably win Bradford. He was not fully 489 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: healthy for the offseason, so when he's fully healthy, I 490 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 3: think it's probably gonna come down to him and Haines. 491 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: But that's sort of the biggest competition right now that's 492 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: most wide open is right guard. They signed Laken Tomlinson, 493 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 3: you know, veteran former pro bowler who you know, has 494 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: been around the league bunch, with a lot of time 495 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: with the Jets and with forty nine ers. He looks 496 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: to be entrenched at left guard. You know, be a 497 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: surprise at this point if he's not the guy there. 498 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: And then at the center. They drafted olu Olua Teamy 499 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: out of Michigan. Last year, he started a couple of 500 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: games for Brown due to injury and you know, held 501 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: up pretty well when he was in there, but now 502 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: looks like this is his shot to sort of step 503 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: into the starting job. 504 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Leave me this with this, John, when it comes to 505 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: Evan Brown, the starting center for you guys, he is 506 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: going to play guard, or at least he has worked 507 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: primarily at the guard position this offseason. Losing him and 508 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals are gaining with Evan Brown now a 509 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: part of that five man front for the Cardinals. 510 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's the guy that was, you know, 511 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: sort of that prototypical veteran leader type guy on the 512 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: line who he really kept the line moving, played mostly 513 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: center for the Seahawks. As you mentioned, he's got that 514 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: guard ability. He played that in Detroit some I mean 515 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: to me, a really good sign of what kind of 516 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: player he is and his ability to be versatile. Was 517 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: in the game early last season. I believe it was 518 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: when they went to New York to play the Giants. 519 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: They had an injury at guard and they were already 520 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: thin at guard at the time, so rather than plugging 521 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: somebody at guard, they put the rookie olo Timmy in 522 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: at center, and Brown, with no reps all week in practice, 523 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: basically just slid over guard and played great that game. 524 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: So he's a really good, just you know, solid guy 525 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: in that line, can play a bunch of spots. Just 526 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: knows this stuff. I mean, Gino Smith can never stop 527 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: raving about him in terms of just you know, helping 528 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: out with protections and seeing things and all that. So 529 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: I think, you know, Cardinals got a guy that can 530 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: really help them. 531 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: Good stuff, John, I appreciate it a lot. We covered 532 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: a lot, and now as we are deep into the offseason, 533 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: hope there is some time for you to get away 534 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: and recharge before training camp begins. 535 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: Thank you much. Yeah. I don't like that they put 536 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: out the reporting dates so early in June. It's like 537 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: remind me of being a kid and you'd see in 538 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: the newspaper of like back to school sales and you're 539 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: just getting out of school in the summer. You're like, 540 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: do we really need to be thinking about this already? 541 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm ready to take a little break and 542 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: recharge before we come back in July. 543 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: It will be here before we know it. 544 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: Appreciate it, John, absolutely, thanks for having me. 545 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals will get their first look at the Mike McDonald 546 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: led Seahawks in late November. Week twelve. Can't thank John 547 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: enough for joining us, and want to thank again Lindsay 548 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: Palais and Stuve Jackson as well, talking forty nine Ers 549 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: and Rams respectively. Next week, the focus is back on 550 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals for the rest of this week. Don't forget 551 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report, Underground and Big Red Rage and all 552 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: your news on asycardinals dot com. On that note, we 553 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, 554 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 555 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: special things thanks to our executive producer Jim Amahudro our 556 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: associate producer Cody Fincher. I'm Craig real Lou. We'll talk 557 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.