Speaker 1: November twenty seventh, nineteen ninety eight, Darryl Kay, Royal Memorial Stadium, Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: Two minutes left in the first quarter. Ricky Williams first
Speaker 1: through the line, he cuts to the left, he breaks
Speaker 1: a tackle, He's down the sideline. This is Ricky's record.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names, presented by Win Bett. I'm
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, I'm Sam Morrel. We're here to find the
Speaker 1: greatest games of all time energy and today on this
Speaker 1: beautiful podcast day, we got Texas versus Texas A and M,
Speaker 1: who was ranked sixth this year in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 1: and our guest, Ricky Williams. I can't wait, legend, maybe
Speaker 1: the greatest college football player of all time. Insane first
Speaker 1: reactions when I think of this second to last game
Speaker 1: of the season. This guy's not even supposed to be
Speaker 1: playing this year because he could have got drafted number
Speaker 1: one the year before. Probably he's got forty four carries
Speaker 1: too much. It's like you ever see, uh we're talking
Speaker 1: about this? Is this ethical to put a running back
Speaker 1: through this? I in this tay and age. I guess
Speaker 1: I mean there was no ethics. This was ninety eight,
Speaker 1: No ethics. Zero, ethics are new. We just discovered ethics. No,
Speaker 1: but it's like we ever see a movie and they
Speaker 1: have like a child actor and they're like, you can't
Speaker 1: do more than eight hours or whatever. There's limits. There
Speaker 1: should be over forty carries. I guarantee McCauley Culkin had
Speaker 1: more than eight hours a day, and that was also
Speaker 1: in the nineties. For sure. He also hung out with
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, which would not be allowed in today's age.
Speaker 1: I don't think probably frowned upon, frowned upon, at least
Speaker 1: probably frowned upon. This hits so close to the heart
Speaker 1: for me because in nineteen ninety eight I was like
Speaker 1: a little kid. I was twelve years old, and everyone
Speaker 1: always heard about bo Jackson, how this guy was unstoppable
Speaker 1: to sport athlete. And then you throw on these games
Speaker 1: every Saturday. And I didn't really watch Texas, but you
Speaker 1: knew Ricky Williams. Yeah, this guy was like averaging one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety three yards a game, running up and
Speaker 1: down the field, jumping over guys, running over guys, out
Speaker 1: running guys. He's like two hundred and thirty five pounds.
Speaker 1: He runs a four to three eight back in ninety eight,
Speaker 1: Like he's honestly one of the most dominant football players
Speaker 1: that ever played on Saturday. Yeah, it's it's it's it's insane,
Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to hear his story how he felt,
Speaker 1: because it's pretty It's pretty well known that Ricky loved
Speaker 1: college football and he loved a little bit of this,
Speaker 1: right Yeah, he little little Mary Jay, little devils. Let
Speaker 1: us never hurt nobody, And we're gonna hear about that
Speaker 1: from old Ricky himself. But to get back to this game, man,
Speaker 1: like forty four carries two hundred and seventy two yards
Speaker 1: one touchdown in this game, he beats Tony dors sets record.
Speaker 1: He only needed like sixty eight yards, smashes it, and
Speaker 1: like the story is, Mac Brown says, I don't want
Speaker 1: you smashing it on a little run. You got to
Speaker 1: break a big run. He does it on like a
Speaker 1: sixty eight yard er. I mean, it really is mind blowing.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. It's like when Jeter got his three
Speaker 1: thousand's career hit as a home run. Wait, Bogs did
Speaker 1: that too, pretty badass. Always back to a New York thing.
Speaker 1: Bogs did it in Tampa. It's not always New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Bogs is a Yankee and a red sock. I
Speaker 1: was trying to bring some unity here, all right, we're
Speaker 1: bringing unity, you know. And Jeter, I mean, who doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean it's Jeter. He's cool, awesome, Jeter. We know
Speaker 1: you're listening. Come on, games with names, so many games
Speaker 1: to talk about. The gift bag? Is it real? Is
Speaker 1: it not real? Do you think he gift bags women
Speaker 1: on the way out? I mean he's a married man. Now,
Speaker 1: he's a married man. But we're talking about old school Jeter.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He seems like a gentleman. Have you
Speaker 1: ever gift bagged a woman? Absolutely? Not one weird thing.
Speaker 1: Just am a father of a daughter. A woman's leaving
Speaker 1: Julian's place and she just takes it back out. Entourage
Speaker 1: Season four on DVD. What the hell the hell are
Speaker 1: we doing? It's always us movie Sam, the movie you're wearing.
Speaker 1: The movie Androge was good. It's not as good as
Speaker 1: the Joker. But let's go to let's live back into
Speaker 1: this day. In nineteen ninety eight number one movie Bugs Life.
Speaker 1: Never saw it. I heard it's great. I was I
Speaker 1: was an ants. I saw ants because of Woody Allen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love I saw Bugs Life recently. I was like
Speaker 1: half up, half asleep. Me and my daughter watched it.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty good. There's like it's great, it's and
Speaker 1: then I remember going to Disney World and they did
Speaker 1: they had like a Bugs Life ride or something. I
Speaker 1: haven't been in years, but I remember that was like
Speaker 1: a cool thing. But what what? What? Who did ants?
Speaker 1: Was that? That wasn't Disney dream Works? I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember what too bad? Woody Allen wasn't attracted to
Speaker 1: Ants instead of his stepdaughter, and he wouldn't have been canceled.
Speaker 1: I guess only get an ants attraction? Jack. What do
Speaker 1: we got? Yeah works? Yeah, Ants was good. I heard,
Speaker 1: I heard, I've heard Bugs Life is better. I guess
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of hidden stories. But or like
Speaker 1: what is it? What do they call that? Like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of metaphorically type speaking, there's metaphors, right, yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well number one song Doop Lauren Hell great, great great album.
Speaker 1: I mean I love Lauren Hill. I got to see
Speaker 1: her live in twenty twelve at like an SP's party
Speaker 1: and she I don't know, she's just fucking cool. She's
Speaker 1: got a vibe there's that one song. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of how it goes because I don't know song names. Great,
Speaker 1: but I can start like singing the g give me
Speaker 1: a little of it. Well, I loved hearing the Fujis too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ready started out, Yeah Fuji's yeah, babe. Well
Speaker 1: we'll have to get back to it. Get back to it.
Speaker 1: Remember this the powder. The Powerpuff Girls premieres on Cartoon Network.
Speaker 1: Cartoon Network at all the Bangers Dexter's laboratory, they had
Speaker 1: Johnny Bravo, they they had some heat. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't a Powerpuff Girls thing, but I remember I wouldn't
Speaker 1: think that'd be weird if if he was, Like I
Speaker 1: was a Bubbles person, truly, I like bubbles. But did
Speaker 1: you I remember seeing like every we were like twelve
Speaker 1: at this time. Yeah, every girl had Powerpuff like backpacks.
Speaker 1: They were cool. It was like that was like a thing.
Speaker 1: That's what I remember. Final season of Seinfeld in the
Speaker 1: Air alrightp RP. Seinfeld went out. You know, look, Larry
Speaker 1: David was gone those last two seasons. It was probably
Speaker 1: time to wrap it up. But one of the best shows,
Speaker 1: if not the best show. It's just all the time.
Speaker 1: It's like the Ultimate show when you have nothing to
Speaker 1: watch and you cause it takes me like forty five
Speaker 1: minutes a to find out what I want to watch,
Speaker 1: be another forty five minutes to find out what I'm
Speaker 1: going to order. If I'm having struggles, I just throw
Speaker 1: on Seinfeld. You get in, you get out. It's great background. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's just especially those like seasons like three through seven,
Speaker 1: you're just getting heat. They're all it looked. The whole
Speaker 1: show is great, but those are like the we talk
Speaker 1: about that just pure fire. Viagra got the FDA approval
Speaker 1: earlier in ninety eight. You remember that Jake Gillenhall movie
Speaker 1: which one Donny Darko. It was a rom come where
Speaker 1: he was like a Viagra pharmaceutical sales guy and Hathaway
Speaker 1: was in it and other drugs, Love and other drugs.
Speaker 1: Never saw it. It was fucking good. Jake Jillenhole rarely disappoints.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's got a great he's got like
Speaker 1: an underrated body of work. He's got, he's got like
Speaker 1: good stuff. I like. I like Jake Jonhall. He's got
Speaker 1: like an old vibe. Zodiac is great Zodiac. And then
Speaker 1: then he had the neighbors he had. Uh I loved
Speaker 1: October Sky never saw it what it was like, such
Speaker 1: a like a feel good movie, like I'm gonna invent
Speaker 1: a rocket and get out of this coal mining town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: rocket viagra metaphors throughout this episode. I mean, real motherfuckers
Speaker 1: weren't waiting for the FDA approval. They were like, I
Speaker 1: got fifty to sixty boners less in my left in
Speaker 1: my life. I'm jumping on it. Yeah, you gotta jump
Speaker 1: on it. Who's waiting for FDA approval? They sell this
Speaker 1: shit at gas stations. Well, now now this is ninety eight.
Speaker 1: We're talking. We're talking ninety eight, you know, and it
Speaker 1: brings me back Horny Goweed. Do you remember that shit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do. If I told the story yet about my
Speaker 1: dad on his anniversary, absolutely not. If it's related to
Speaker 1: Horny Goweed, we have not heard. It's related to my
Speaker 1: first time ever seeing a Viagara pill. WHOA. So my
Speaker 1: parents it's their anniversary April fourteenth. So they're going on
Speaker 1: like a little weekend trip and they leave the house.
Speaker 1: And so my parents left the house, I would always
Speaker 1: go up and use their bathroom, you know, full just
Speaker 1: like living lavish in their bed. My dad runs in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, my dad's here. He runs in,
Speaker 1: goes into like the closet and he's scrambling through the drawer, Like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this guy looking for? He goes
Speaker 1: out and I'm looking at him. He looks at me.
Speaker 1: He pulls out a blue pill. He kisses it, puts
Speaker 1: it in his pocket and says, son, hopefully you don't
Speaker 1: know what this is until you're about my age. Wow.
Speaker 1: And it confused me. I didn't know what it was
Speaker 1: until like literally like nine years later or eight. I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that your first taste of pds. That
Speaker 1: was your first taste. Rodnie Harrison said the same thing
Speaker 1: to the locker room. He kissed the needle and said,
Speaker 1: hopefully don't know what this is. Julian injected into his
Speaker 1: ass Yoh Sam, the banter goes here we go major
Speaker 1: global events. Now what do we got? Jesse Ventura the
Speaker 1: chin Yeah, was elected as the governor of Minnesota. Great cameo.
Speaker 1: He was great in the Predator. He was a huge
Speaker 1: step for actors, slash pro wrestlers getting into politics, and
Speaker 1: Running Man was running. Running Man's great. I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger badass. That's like they're like paved the way for
Speaker 1: like Hunger Games, right, I mean Running Man. I thought
Speaker 1: Hunger Games was based off of when I saw Hunger Games,
Speaker 1: it was off book. Yeah, well did did the book
Speaker 1: Hunger Games come out after Running Man? Who knows? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Running Man was a great movie. Schwarzenegger had had had
Speaker 1: an epic run in the eighties, oh eighties to like
Speaker 1: mid nineties. Another Governor Schwarzenegger, Another the Governator, the Governator,
Speaker 1: and uh Man. Bill Burr used to have the best
Speaker 1: bit on on Schwarzenegger about like this, of course this
Speaker 1: guy thought he could get away with cheating. Like look
Speaker 1: look what he accomplished. You Like, look he comes to
Speaker 1: this country, he becomes an actor in a language he
Speaker 1: could barely speak. That was like the whole bit. Of
Speaker 1: course he thought he would just keep conquering everything was
Speaker 1: a I'm butchering the bit. But look up the Bill
Speaker 1: Burr Schwartzenegg, he's conan Yeah, man, True lies is one
Speaker 1: of my favors too. Twins, Twins Classic. Then there was
Speaker 1: like another one off of Twins that was kind of
Speaker 1: like where he got pregnant. That's when Terminator the Terminators
Speaker 1: I mean, let's epic Terminator two hands down, it still
Speaker 1: holds up Terminator two. It's like a rare It's a
Speaker 1: rare time where the sequels better than the original. Is
Speaker 1: there anything else like that? Maybe god Some people argue
Speaker 1: Godfather too. I lean one, but two. You do have
Speaker 1: the nero am Pacino, but one your brando. I'm I'm,
Speaker 1: i'm a I like two for Godfather. And then I
Speaker 1: also get like, I'm not trying to flex or anything,
Speaker 1: but I did you see top Gun two. This isn't
Speaker 1: going to be a flex by the time this comes out,
Speaker 1: but we are taking this in advance. When this comes out,
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be like, yeah, we all saw it. Julian
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen it yet, so I am jealous,
Speaker 1: and I might. I might put out there it's better
Speaker 1: than the first, and I've heard I've heard it the better.
Speaker 1: I mean Rooster and goose baby, don't tell me, don't
Speaker 1: give it away. But Val Kilmer does make a cameo,
Speaker 1: right full cameo. Fuck. I shed, I shed a tear.
Speaker 1: I love Val Kilma. I cried a little. Damn. It
Speaker 1: hit me in like it really did, because you know
Speaker 1: everything that he's going through. You know, it's his documentary.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen his incredible val It's on Amazon.
Speaker 1: It's worth a watch. I gotta check it out. He's
Speaker 1: he's had a he's had a cool life. I mean Iceman,
Speaker 1: Iceman is Iceman bro Let's get into the teams. We
Speaker 1: got the nineteen ninety eight Texas Longhorns nine and three,
Speaker 1: coached by Mac Brown in his first year. They had
Speaker 1: some big wins at Nebraska, who is number seven, and
Speaker 1: Texas A and m notable losses at UCLA number six
Speaker 1: Kansas State. Ricky Williams breaking the rushing record is really
Speaker 1: what this is all about. Though. That's exactly because we
Speaker 1: haven't seen a Texas team compete like this or even
Speaker 1: the teams that were a big, big time team since
Speaker 1: this period in life. I mean UCLA's number six beating them,
Speaker 1: they beat Nebraska number seven. I mean college football has
Speaker 1: changed so much, but this is the college football I remember,
Speaker 1: and specifically with Ricky Williams running up and down that
Speaker 1: field with the Texas Longhorns, I mean he kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of like modern day. At that time, Bo Jackson,
Speaker 1: Yeah even played baseball. Jack What do we on on
Speaker 1: baseball guy. Ricky played four years of minor league baseball Martinsville,
Speaker 1: two years for the Piedmont bow Evils and then a
Speaker 1: year bo Evils, slow A and Bativa. Where is that? Nope,
Speaker 1: that doesn't That is the BA TVA muck Dogs and
Speaker 1: the muff Dogs. The muff Dogs, muck dogs. We have
Speaker 1: dirty minds here, Jesus, the muff Dogs. This is this
Speaker 1: is their celebration. Yeah. And a fun fact, I actually
Speaker 1: saw Ricky in his days with the bow Evils. Man,
Speaker 1: I think I got to meet Ricky. That was about
Speaker 1: four or five. Oh wow, I just remember Ricky, your baby,
Speaker 1: bursting through the type baseball pants with those big old thighs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks so strong. Oh my god. Yeah, a baseball
Speaker 1: polyester can't hold a dude like that. Not no, no way.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine himing some pinstripes. He would have looked beautiful.
Speaker 1: Oh but this game, in particular was the game where
Speaker 1: he beats the all time career record for yards with
Speaker 1: six thousand and eighty two, needed sixty three to beat
Speaker 1: Tony dor Set. Goes out and does that on a
Speaker 1: on like a sixty eight yard touchdown, gets the record,
Speaker 1: wins the Heisman this year, was supposed to leave the
Speaker 1: year before, Like this tells you with all these these
Speaker 1: little stories you hear about him at Texas, which we're
Speaker 1: going to try to get into. This guy just love
Speaker 1: college football. Yeah, I mean, how do you turn down?
Speaker 1: Can you ever? Can you relate to this at all?
Speaker 1: Turning down a shot to go to the NFL, to
Speaker 1: go back to college. I was never good enough in
Speaker 1: college to even think that way, So, like, no, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: And especially with what we're seeing nowadays. You know, you're
Speaker 1: seeing guys sit out bowl games that don't want to
Speaker 1: get hurt if they're not in a contending bowl game,
Speaker 1: so they don't hurt their draft stock or put the
Speaker 1: miles on them. I had forty four carries a game.
Speaker 1: Forty four carries. I mean, some notable names that just
Speaker 1: show us how different the game is too. Games different
Speaker 1: and sores of the player. The player is different. I
Speaker 1: mean in a good way. Guys are getting paid, Guys
Speaker 1: are getting out there and making their money, and then
Speaker 1: you know that's what happens when you live in a
Speaker 1: capitalist government. Yeah, some notable notable names on Texas Major
Speaker 1: Apple White got to be one of the coolest names
Speaker 1: for sure. That the name you butchered, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: butchered that name when you gave a speech to the team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you call them? Apple Wood? I called them Applewood.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it earlier, but they wanted
Speaker 1: me and Amondola during the Super Bowl in Houston to
Speaker 1: come talk to their team. We go in there. It
Speaker 1: gives me an insane introduction and I go thanks, Coach
Speaker 1: apple Would whole team fucking starts laughing. It was pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Quentin Jammer played against him. He was a stud or late.
Speaker 1: He played a long time. Gotta be one of the
Speaker 1: best corner names. Gotta jam you Jammer, great porn, great
Speaker 1: porn name, great corner name. Whatever you want the Jammer.
Speaker 1: So the season narrative, Yeah, coming off a four and
Speaker 1: seven season, Ricky was pretty much the entire offense of
Speaker 1: that year in ninety seven, but also in this year,
Speaker 1: this year, they go out, they get a way better.
Speaker 1: They would have the were they're nine to three, go
Speaker 1: out and play in the Cotton Bowl win over Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: Ricky beats all the records, wins the Heisman, sends up
Speaker 1: off Mac Brown in Texas to come into what they
Speaker 1: become over that next period of time where I think
Speaker 1: they got a Nattie or two. Uh. And you know
Speaker 1: he ends his college career with six five hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety two yards seventy five touchdowns. That like, just thinking
Speaker 1: about that many touchdowns hurts my neck. Like this dude
Speaker 1: played so much. That's three seats he had. He had
Speaker 1: more touchdowns in three seasons. And I know it's college
Speaker 1: and I had in my I think my whole NFL career.
Speaker 1: That's fucking nuts. That's too much. There's too many carries
Speaker 1: in college. His goal he wanted to play really good
Speaker 1: at college level. Jewels clocked in at thirty six career
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. Thinks, thanks Jeck, just you just humbled me
Speaker 1: even more. It's impressive. I think oppressive. It was a
Speaker 1: third down guy. Yeah, you gotta move the chains to
Speaker 1: score touchdowns. Clutch guy, that's my guy. Three super bowls
Speaker 1: right here, dude, this super Bowl. Let's get over these
Speaker 1: Texas A and the Maggie's. Their record was eleven and three,
Speaker 1: coached by R. C. Slow Com. We got a pronunciation
Speaker 1: on that jet. I believe it's slow Com, slow Com,
Speaker 1: slow cumb jammer of a premature ejaculator, a slow come
Speaker 1: big wins. They beat number two Nebraska. Nebraska got beat
Speaker 1: by both these teams twenty five Texas Tech, thirteen Missouri
Speaker 1: Kansas KSU number two lost to Florida State in Texas.
Speaker 1: What about this is crazy. This is the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: They were in the Big Twelve at the time. They
Speaker 1: have some powerhouse teams at this at this time in
Speaker 1: the history of college football, and some huge names on
Speaker 1: this team. Who they got, I mean Dante Hall, that's
Speaker 1: a name now the video game, the human Joystick, one
Speaker 1: of the best, probably arguably the best punt returner in
Speaker 1: the history of the game. Oh my god. He was
Speaker 1: fun to play with him. Madden insane. He was literally
Speaker 1: a human joy stick. Also got Dan Campbell. You know Dan.
Speaker 1: I don't know him, but I covered him this last year.
Speaker 1: This is the head coach of the Detroit Lions who said,
Speaker 1: if we get him down or they break us down,
Speaker 1: we're going to try to get back up, and then
Speaker 1: when we're trying to get back we're going to bite
Speaker 1: off a kneecap. I believe that's the quote. He literally
Speaker 1: said to the media. A tough guy. I love it.
Speaker 1: That win too, from Dallas that win. The linebacker. I
Speaker 1: remember him. He was a good player. He was insane,
Speaker 1: and you always rooted for him because he was like
Speaker 1: the only Asian player you ever saw in the NFL,
Speaker 1: for sure. And I'm a minority in the league as
Speaker 1: a skill position white guy, and then you see a
Speaker 1: guy over Asian, I'm like, holy funk, that's hell is sick.
Speaker 1: You went with white guy over jew your skill position
Speaker 1: jew get we get lumped in. I don't think there
Speaker 1: should be a lumping I think you should jew. That's
Speaker 1: how many other wide receiving Jews are there. That's the
Speaker 1: anti Semitism in the society. Yeah, most people just lump
Speaker 1: us in for our own I mean, if that's as
Speaker 1: anti semitic as it gets, we're doing great. They're just
Speaker 1: lumping us in. We're like, you anti Semite, letting us
Speaker 1: fit in with the rest of society. Uh. Edelman when
Speaker 1: I I mean, I didn't know at first. I just
Speaker 1: oh Edelman and I was like, there's no way he's Jewish,
Speaker 1: and that looks that. I was like, ohit, he's Jewish. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. It's gotta be we're talking
Speaker 1: current guys. Yeah, Josh Rosen, Michael Gunn got recently retired,
Speaker 1: Nate Ebnerbner, Anthony Fisker or first Ger Sorry, Ali, Marpitt,
Speaker 1: Greg Joseph in the Hall of Fame. You got Marv Levy, Levy,
Speaker 1: you got Ron Mix Mix, Andre Tippett, tip Al Davis converted,
Speaker 1: Benny Friedman, sid Gilman. And then lastly, a guy we
Speaker 1: got on the wall said Luckman. Luck mean nice we
Speaker 1: got we got we got some ballplayers. You got some
Speaker 1: jews when we got some guys respect. So the season
Speaker 1: narrative for Texas A and M. They were ranked fourteenth
Speaker 1: in the preseason AP poll, lost an opening night to
Speaker 1: Florida State number two and twenty six year old Chris
Speaker 1: Winky then bounced back. Yeah, he played. I think he
Speaker 1: went and played pro ball, came back. He was like
Speaker 1: thirty two freshman and he played for the what he
Speaker 1: played with the Panthers A bunch. Yes, I remember Winky? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone he kind of liked Twinkie. It's a fun name,
Speaker 1: it's a fun name to root for. You got Winky,
Speaker 1: Jammer slow Come. He took some good names apple Wood
Speaker 1: and we got a mctual sounding names apple White, fuck
Speaker 1: damn again dude, apple Wood, apple white Ape, my bad Major,
Speaker 1: what a cool first name? Major? Holy shit? Things we
Speaker 1: remember clearly Ricky. I mean, this is really about Ricky
Speaker 1: breaking the records. This is That's what it is. That's
Speaker 1: what that's why we're talking. That's why we're doing this game.
Speaker 1: There was a last second field goal to win in
Speaker 1: this game, but we're talking about Ricky. Come on, there's
Speaker 1: other There's a lot of games where you went on
Speaker 1: a field goal. There's not a lot of games where
Speaker 1: you break the rushing record. Things we may have forgotten.
Speaker 1: Texas was unranked entering this game. From nineteen eighty four
Speaker 1: to two thousand, they only had two ten win seasons.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of odd. That doesn't sound right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just feels like a bigger program. They and then
Speaker 1: in what the two thousands to twenty ten's they they
Speaker 1: kind of they I think they stepped it up. They
Speaker 1: were They were pretty powerhousey with you know, Vince Young
Speaker 1: and those guys, and when Mac Brown, Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: a long, great career with Texas. You know, you hear
Speaker 1: about Matthew McConaughey given halftime speeches and it looks fun
Speaker 1: hook him, right, that's what they always say, give him
Speaker 1: more the hook. That's McConaughey is a coole celeb fan
Speaker 1: to have gotta be he's like so cool, Yeah, Wolfe
Speaker 1: of Wall Street. You just picture the dazing confused. So
Speaker 1: do that at games? Certain games? Ago? Oh remember that though?
Speaker 1: So I heard that was actually improv. That was actually
Speaker 1: for him to get in character for the scene, and
Speaker 1: they did it, and I think DiCaprio was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to keep this. So that's what I heard.
Speaker 1: That's like when you tell a crazy locker room story
Speaker 1: and I'm like, roll the fucking cameras because you got
Speaker 1: some you got some epic stories. Man, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: got it. I don't even know what to say to that, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't mean you know what. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a humble guy, so he doesn't like when I
Speaker 1: blow up his ship like this. But you got good stories.
Speaker 1: They're pretty good. You got some classes heard better I
Speaker 1: have liar, liar, I've had better, I've had better. That
Speaker 1: was that was a good movie. Jim nineties, Jim Carrey,
Speaker 1: what's your number? One? Like the most quoted one I
Speaker 1: use is probably dumb and Dumber? Easily and easy number
Speaker 1: one for me. Dum, dumb and dumber. Liar, liar, it
Speaker 1: was awesome. Yeah, uh, big mask guy. Just the performance alone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Jim Carrey in the Mask is like Ricky
Speaker 1: Williams in this game. Just give him the ball and
Speaker 1: let him take over. Do you think any of that
Speaker 1: was in the script or he just said go do?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's hard to write some of
Speaker 1: that shit. And I saw him recently in the New Sonics.
Speaker 1: He's fucking good. I love Jim Carrey. He loved Jim Carrey. Man, Jim,
Speaker 1: if you're a sports guy and you want to come
Speaker 1: on games with names, we'd love to have you. Man,
Speaker 1: how's your burger? Why don't you eat up? I'll let
Speaker 1: you know. Remember when they're trying to feed him the pills.
Speaker 1: Pills are good, pills are good to kill a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they killed him and they left him on the side
Speaker 1: of the road. Man. And then remember when they had
Speaker 1: like the at the very end, Oh sorry, my friend's
Speaker 1: a little slow. The town's eight miles that way for
Speaker 1: like the what was the sun tanning lotion girls or something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember, like I was like eight years old. I
Speaker 1: was like, hmmm, I would definitely not do that. I
Speaker 1: saw in the theater with my grandparents, and I remember
Speaker 1: they were just furious at me. I think my grandma
Speaker 1: wanted to see Apollo thirteen or something. It was something
Speaker 1: like tasteful she wanted to see, and it was like, please, Grandma,
Speaker 1: dumb and dumber. I'm like, it's supposed to be really good.
Speaker 1: And then, of course five minutes and they're like, what
Speaker 1: what have we done? Polly want a cracker? Shout out
Speaker 1: to my grandparents who took me to Dumb and Dumber
Speaker 1: and it was not their cup of tea. Good grandparents,
Speaker 1: they were the best. They stuck with what you want grandparents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to the gaming corner, presented by
Speaker 1: win Bet. Okay, so prop bet, are we thinking over under?
Speaker 1: How many times anyone can say hook them? How many
Speaker 1: times you can say, all right, all right, which one
Speaker 1: should we go with? Alright? Alright, alright? Is that the
Speaker 1: McConaughey thing. Yep? How many times can we get that?
Speaker 1: I think three is reasonable, three and a half, three
Speaker 1: and a half you can hit four on that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm a confident guy. You're a confident guy.
Speaker 1: But I'm a humble guy. You just had a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes ago. So my confident, I'm a humble Well.
Speaker 1: I don't think they are opposites. I think I think
Speaker 1: you can be a confident, humble guy. Khaky is the opposite.
Speaker 1: I think you're I don't think you're cocky. I teeter
Speaker 1: at it sometimes you teeter it. But the greats do.
Speaker 1: You're a great player man. Alright, alright, alright, let's feel
Speaker 1: they couldn't take it, so we went to McConaughey. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, I didn't even mean to do that. It
Speaker 1: was just subconsciously in my head. But let's hear from
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams. But before then, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we're joined. Sam By, arguably the best college football
Speaker 1: player of all time. A San Diego native. Yeah, Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy winner, dual sport athlete, A lot of people don't know,
Speaker 1: loved baseball, played in the miners, an Austin, Texas legend
Speaker 1: when it was legendary to be in Austin, Texas. I mean,
Speaker 1: we haven't had that in a while. Right now. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's got a statue. He's a beast that the new
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints traded literally their whole draft to draft him
Speaker 1: because he was that good of a football player in college,
Speaker 1: and everyone knew it was a non miss. He's not
Speaker 1: going to be a bust. He has an incredible story,
Speaker 1: you know, as a pro as a kid in his upbringing,
Speaker 1: as a college football athlete, and he played thirteen years
Speaker 1: in the league and was a beast in the league.
Speaker 1: Just didn't get to play on the best teams we
Speaker 1: got Ricky Williams. Man, thanks for joining us. Oh, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. This is a pleasure, dude, The pleasure
Speaker 1: is ours. We were just talking nineteen ninety eight. Like
Speaker 1: when I was a kid and I played running back
Speaker 1: as a kid, like you watched every Saturday. It didn't
Speaker 1: matter who they were playing, It didn't matter how many
Speaker 1: people were in the box, it didn't matter anything. You
Speaker 1: knew Ricky Williams was going to break some tackles, outrun people,
Speaker 1: jump over people, and get the ball about a million times,
Speaker 1: just as he did in this game where he beat
Speaker 1: Tony Dorsett's record, Like your dream. Clearly I've heard you
Speaker 1: talk about it. You you you loved college football? Was
Speaker 1: that that that was your thing? Yeah? So I mean
Speaker 1: you mentioned I was a two sport athlete, as I
Speaker 1: grew up in San Diego watching the Padres, watching Tony
Speaker 1: Gwynn best swinging that that was the best swinging base
Speaker 1: that was. That was an era in baseball in the
Speaker 1: eighties where it was like Gwen in the n L
Speaker 1: and Wade Bogs in the a L. And it was
Speaker 1: like the two sweetest swings. Yeah, that was Giants fan
Speaker 1: Will Clark, Sorry Clark, that's a great one. Clark and
Speaker 1: Barry bro Barry was a fucking beast dude that he
Speaker 1: would see one pitch, He would see one pitch a
Speaker 1: week and then be a dinger. I don't care if
Speaker 1: he was on anything. That was the best baseball player
Speaker 1: of all time. If we're talking sweet swings, you can't
Speaker 1: leave Ken Griffith one of the prettiest swings. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: again this is I love this, right, Sharon, going back
Speaker 1: to these days. But yeah, I grew up a baseball
Speaker 1: fan watching these guys, and so I wanted to be
Speaker 1: the next one. And then when I was about twelve,
Speaker 1: I started watching Notre Dame football on NBC, and I
Speaker 1: got the bug for just a college football tradition, and
Speaker 1: so I decided. When I was being recruited, I told
Speaker 1: all the baseball recruiters, I'm playing college football, told all
Speaker 1: the college recruiters, I'm playing minor league baseball, and so
Speaker 1: I was able. It worked out. So I took the
Speaker 1: scholarship to Texas, but I had to give it back
Speaker 1: when I got drafted, because you can't be a professional
Speaker 1: sport and an amateur athlete on scholarship. So the Phillies
Speaker 1: drafted me in the eighth round and paid for my education,
Speaker 1: and all throughout college I spent my summers playing minor
Speaker 1: league baseball. But I was just much better at football,
Speaker 1: and so eventually I had to let go with my
Speaker 1: dream to be a baseball player and I stuck with football.
Speaker 1: But my dream was to be the best college football
Speaker 1: player I could be and then go play baseball. But
Speaker 1: I just kept with the football thing. Well you accomplish that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at these numbers. Can we get
Speaker 1: these numbers real quick? Sorry? I haven't got them off
Speaker 1: the top of my dome. It was a long time ago, dude,
Speaker 1: don't worry it, dude. And I played a lot of
Speaker 1: football too, So you get hit in the head, you
Speaker 1: forget I do a lot of I do a lot
Speaker 1: of drinking. But uh so I'm right there with you guys,
Speaker 1: not really, but uh you uh, Ricky, I mean, you
Speaker 1: have this historic season in college and you could have
Speaker 1: probably been the first overall pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: But you come back, you come back to college. What
Speaker 1: about it? Were You're like, I gotta do it again? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know again. I always wanted to be a college
Speaker 1: football player, and so for me, leaving college early didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. But at the end of my junior year,
Speaker 1: my coach I recruited me, John Mcivit got fired, and
Speaker 1: so I seriously started thinking about going to the NFL
Speaker 1: because who wants to be at college with the new
Speaker 1: coach and all that stuff. And two things happened. The
Speaker 1: first thing was I was talking to Mac Brown, who
Speaker 1: was a new coach, and I pretty much decided I
Speaker 1: was taking off, and he said, you know, I know
Speaker 1: you're probably leaving, but you've been here the longest, so
Speaker 1: I'd just love for you to give me a heads
Speaker 1: up on what's going on with the team. So we
Speaker 1: spent about three hours used to media share and everything
Speaker 1: I thought and felt about the team, and I noticed
Speaker 1: the next day when I went to the facility, you know,
Speaker 1: probably half of what we talked about he already started
Speaker 1: to implement some changes. And I felt empowered as a leader.
Speaker 1: So that got me, you know, feeling like coming back
Speaker 1: might be a good idea. And then that same week,
Speaker 1: I was flipping through the College Football Almanac and I
Speaker 1: flipped through to see all purpose yards, and I noticed
Speaker 1: that I was thinking fourth or fifth. But I did
Speaker 1: the math, and I said, if I have just a
Speaker 1: little better season than I did as a junior, I
Speaker 1: could have the most rushing yards ever in college football history.
Speaker 1: And that intrigued me. And then I flipped a couple
Speaker 1: more pages and I got to total touchdowns rushing touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and I saw, if I had the same year I
Speaker 1: had as a junior, I could have the most rushing
Speaker 1: touchdowns and total touchdowns in college football history. I was like, damn.
Speaker 1: Flipped a couple more pages, got to all purpose yards.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. I did the math, and I said,
Speaker 1: if I have a decent year like I had last year,
Speaker 1: I could be the you know, all purpose leader for
Speaker 1: all time. And I thought, man, I have this opportunity
Speaker 1: to be, like to have this triple crown and it
Speaker 1: was so intriguing, I said, I got to take a
Speaker 1: shot at it. And so those two things really were
Speaker 1: why I came back for my senior year. And that
Speaker 1: that shows you kind of competitor Ricky Williams was. I mean,
Speaker 1: you set a goal in college and you went out
Speaker 1: and achieved it. You honored even through a coaching change,
Speaker 1: your scholarship, and you went back and you did what's
Speaker 1: best for not only you, but like you helped out
Speaker 1: Mac Brown. You you propelled mac Brown into probably you know,
Speaker 1: the best stint that called you know, Texas football's had
Speaker 1: in a long time, if not ever. So when you
Speaker 1: see these these running backs nowadays who were on like
Speaker 1: these load managements and they they don't play in the
Speaker 1: bowl game, like you got to be like, man, that's
Speaker 1: that's got to be crazy, y'all. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: understand the load management part, kind of it's not me,
Speaker 1: but I understand it. The sitting out bowl games, it
Speaker 1: is hard. I have I have a hard time with that,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's me though, it's not them. I'm
Speaker 1: just old school. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: amateur sports. You know, the word amma, amateur comes from
Speaker 1: love so this idea of playing for the love of it,
Speaker 1: you know, and to me, I couldn't imagine sitting on
Speaker 1: a bowl game, like damn, we're talking load management, but
Speaker 1: it's forty four carries too much. That's insane to me.
Speaker 1: You carry them all forty four times in a game?
Speaker 1: Is that in? Is that crazy? You know back then
Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy. Today is crazy. And that's one part.
Speaker 1: The other part it depends on the game. You know.
Speaker 1: There's those some games where you might need it, but
Speaker 1: to do it consistently, that's too much. Do you get tired?
Speaker 1: You carried the rock forty four times and like you
Speaker 1: were still outrunning people like, do you ever get tired? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I was tired, but mainly because that was
Speaker 1: the last game of the year. So I've been carrying
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, for two thousand yards going up
Speaker 1: to that point. So it was a lot going through
Speaker 1: the season. But the nature of my game was being
Speaker 1: tired was part of my game. I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: that's why I got an unfair advantage because if I'm
Speaker 1: tired and the defender's tired, he still has to tackle me,
Speaker 1: you know. And you saw that people couldn't tackle you
Speaker 1: and I never always remember, you know, he was like
Speaker 1: the pinnacle. Like there's like these bowling ball type running backs,
Speaker 1: especially like and I'm just going to correlate it to
Speaker 1: the pros and where I was at, Like no one
Speaker 1: ever wanted to tackle, especially when it was cold, guys
Speaker 1: like him, Like you get these big guys that run low,
Speaker 1: great pad level, built in pad level, and then you
Speaker 1: got to see him in the middle of the hole
Speaker 1: and once they break through, like and that's what you
Speaker 1: saw with him. I don't want to go to Trader
Speaker 1: Joe's when it's cold. I mean, I can't imagine what
Speaker 1: you guys went through. I mean it's insane, okay, And
Speaker 1: he would break a tackle in like his open field
Speaker 1: and then he had the like the speed out run.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's pretty much insane. And can we
Speaker 1: talk nineties late nineties football fashion. Probably the swaggiest dude
Speaker 1: ever out there. He always had the cut. He had
Speaker 1: the cut, the cut hemmed jersey, you'd have like the
Speaker 1: spatty cleats, you had the baby dreads going on, like
Speaker 1: you were like an innovator and like now it's getting
Speaker 1: back to that, Like everyone dressed like that in practice
Speaker 1: like you know, you always like try to swag out
Speaker 1: in practice with the game. You never, like Ricky Williams
Speaker 1: actually swagged out throughout and created like pretty much swagged
Speaker 1: for now. You have to be Ricky's level of good.
Speaker 1: I mean I saw a guy in the one train
Speaker 1: the other day and it cut him shirt. He did
Speaker 1: not have Ricky's physique, so it didn't work. But when
Speaker 1: you have the skill to back it up like Ricky did.
Speaker 1: I always say, like Eddie Murphy, you know, delirious raw
Speaker 1: he wears, you can't wear that that outfit as an
Speaker 1: open micro. When you're Eddie Murphy, you can wear that outfit.
Speaker 1: You got to have the swag and the skill to
Speaker 1: back it up what you had because you were a
Speaker 1: great player. Well, I think is all part of the vision.
Speaker 1: You know. I think to be a great athlete, you
Speaker 1: got to have a vision of that great athlete in
Speaker 1: your head that you're trying to work towards. And for me,
Speaker 1: the outfit, you know, the costume was a big was
Speaker 1: a big part of that image. Look good, play good,
Speaker 1: feel good or what was it? Look good, feel good,
Speaker 1: play good exactly? Frimetime baby, Yeah, it's real. Can you
Speaker 1: talk about getting drafted into some of the teams you
Speaker 1: played on, you know, the Saints, Miami. I mean, what
Speaker 1: were those experiences like for you, Well, Julian said, it
Speaker 1: really there's so much about fit. You know, Like to me,
Speaker 1: if you get drafted, they've scouted you. You You got talent,
Speaker 1: But I think the next level is finding that system
Speaker 1: where you fit. Part of it is the scheme, but
Speaker 1: also part of it is the personnel. And I think
Speaker 1: it was close. It was really close for me in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. And I think when I the time I
Speaker 1: got traded to Miami, it was the peri fit. It
Speaker 1: was a team that played hell of defense. They had
Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback, pretty good receiving corps, but they
Speaker 1: really wanted to establish the run, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: that was a sweet spot for me. New Orleans was close.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a great defense. When I got drafted.
Speaker 1: Quarterback position, we had two guys named Billy Joe, and
Speaker 1: we didn't have we didn't really have anything else on offense,
Speaker 1: and so it just and I think also coach Dickert
Speaker 1: was a little bit old school in his hiring of
Speaker 1: coaches because our offensive coordinator, he just believed the old
Speaker 1: school you know, run the same play and make him
Speaker 1: stop you you know, and that didn't work. I got
Speaker 1: to I got to I got to Miami North Turner,
Speaker 1: who is in my mind offensive genius, especially scheme in
Speaker 1: a run game, and he just he saw what I
Speaker 1: did well and he used motion and schemes to make
Speaker 1: sure that my talent was was could could could accomplish
Speaker 1: things on the field. And it worked. It worked. I
Speaker 1: got to. Then I stayed with Miami, and I was
Speaker 1: versatile enough that I could find a place to fit.
Speaker 1: You know, Ronnie Brown was drafted in two thousand and
Speaker 1: five and we started running the Wildcat, which was great
Speaker 1: and kept us both on the field. And then my
Speaker 1: last season I played with the Ravens. And you know,
Speaker 1: I see this a lot, but I see it's really
Speaker 1: difficult late in your career, especially if you have some success,
Speaker 1: to go to a new team. Because you know, I
Speaker 1: was in Miami, we went through the ups and downs.
Speaker 1: Like everywhere in Miami, it was just everybody knew me,
Speaker 1: loved me, appreciated me. I went to Baltimore, it was
Speaker 1: like a whole new Like I had to start over
Speaker 1: at the beginning. You know, I was almost forty, you know,
Speaker 1: I had to start over at the beginning, trying to
Speaker 1: like make a name for myself, improve myself, and that's
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot. So I ended up
Speaker 1: only one year in Baltimore and I decided I'm ready
Speaker 1: to do something else. I completely agree. That's half the
Speaker 1: reason why I retired. If I wasn't gonna play there,
Speaker 1: I don't want to play anywhere else because I want
Speaker 1: to learn a new scheme. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: learn the new lunch ladies, the people in the building. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you become family with these people, and then
Speaker 1: you got to re establish yourself, you know, and people
Speaker 1: do shit differently. You know, they may not get this
Speaker 1: at you. They may not like I completely understand with that,
Speaker 1: especially when you get older, Like when I was older
Speaker 1: in the locker room, like you got a lot of
Speaker 1: young players, and there's different like like our generation was
Speaker 1: completely your generation was completely different than the one before,
Speaker 1: and and vice versa. You become the older guy. It's like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for me to get out. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't do that dance. I don't you know this,
Speaker 1: or I don't I don't, I don't. I'm out on
Speaker 1: my phone all day. You know, it's crazy how different
Speaker 1: it changes each like every ten years in that locker room.
Speaker 1: But let's get back to the Texas Texas A and
Speaker 1: M game. Like you guys were on the verge, you
Speaker 1: guys had. You guys were four and seven the year
Speaker 1: before you completely balled out. But this year, you guys
Speaker 1: are nine and two. You're playing against six ranked at
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. It's pretty big rival anytime two
Speaker 1: Texas teams are playing, it's pretty big, right, It's a
Speaker 1: huge rival. I mean Texas Texas A and M has
Speaker 1: been the biggest rivalry. It's bigger than Texas. OU it's
Speaker 1: a bigger it's huge. Thank you for clearing that up
Speaker 1: for you know, a West Coast guy, a New Yorker
Speaker 1: like this game. So the game plan was just give
Speaker 1: it to you and let let's write it off of
Speaker 1: you the whole game or what well the game plan
Speaker 1: was coming into the game. I think I needed seventy
Speaker 1: two yards to break the record, So I think Coach
Speaker 1: Brown's first thing was break this record and then win
Speaker 1: the game. But he knew if I break the record
Speaker 1: and everyone gets excited, it's going to be easier. It's
Speaker 1: going to be easier to win the game. So I
Speaker 1: remember that first quarter. He might have given me the
Speaker 1: ball like twenty times or something. He just kept feeding
Speaker 1: me because he wanted to. He wanted to get that
Speaker 1: out of the way so that we could focus on
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, and then then the one you broke it.
Speaker 1: What was a sixty eight yarder where you dip out,
Speaker 1: they didn't have the edge. Then you get in, you split,
Speaker 1: you come off the butt of the blocker, and then
Speaker 1: you have the open field running ability to break the
Speaker 1: tackle and go. And then you get it down the
Speaker 1: sideline you cut back like it's crazy. I heard his story.
Speaker 1: Did mac Brown really say you better break it on
Speaker 1: a long run? He did, but he always says stuff
Speaker 1: like that. You know something I read that you said,
Speaker 1: Julian about a receiver's job is to block in the
Speaker 1: run game. And you know, and what I love about
Speaker 1: the play was a sixty yard touchdown run. What I
Speaker 1: love about the play was, you know, coaches say, if
Speaker 1: everyone does their job, every score should be a touch
Speaker 1: every place should be a touchdown. And when I go
Speaker 1: back and watch that play, every single person on the
Speaker 1: field did their job. Okay, it was just a regular
Speaker 1: lead play to the left line, did a good job
Speaker 1: isolating the defensive lineman. My full back did a good
Speaker 1: job hitting the outside linebacker. Okay, you know, the play
Speaker 1: side receiver take most dangerous men exactly. He came down
Speaker 1: and then what the coach said to the running back,
Speaker 1: We're leaving one for you. Okay, Kwame came down, crack
Speaker 1: the safety. The little corner came up, bounced off my shoulder.
Speaker 1: I was out in the open field, okay, running down
Speaker 1: the field. Their backside corner, the fastest guy on their team,
Speaker 1: took an angle. Okay. Our backside receiver chased them all
Speaker 1: the way down the field, pushed them out of bounce
Speaker 1: just enough so I could cut in and get into
Speaker 1: the end zone. I'm telling you. It was everyone on
Speaker 1: the field how to do their job to make that
Speaker 1: play work. And that's a beautiful thing about football. It's
Speaker 1: the ultimate team sport. And I always remember what he said.
Speaker 1: You know, the receiver comes in, he cracks his safety.
Speaker 1: And they always say that specifically because they always say
Speaker 1: the corners the worst tackler. That's the worst tackler. If
Speaker 1: you get tackled by the corner, they're gonna be looking
Speaker 1: and they're looking at you sideways. But uh, it's it
Speaker 1: really is true. But the thing with like watching Ricky
Speaker 1: play like you were not only like there's there's certain
Speaker 1: guys that were athletic freaks that they go in and
Speaker 1: they just try to run through the hole like you
Speaker 1: were able to do that, But then you were also
Speaker 1: able to, you know, squeeze that double team to the
Speaker 1: next level, cut back, always find the right hole, and
Speaker 1: there's a letter's players that can do that as well.
Speaker 1: But like the great ones, then after that is the
Speaker 1: ones that go out and break the tackle. The safety
Speaker 1: doesn't make the tackle. You go and make these explosive plays,
Speaker 1: and you just see that all the time when you're
Speaker 1: watching Ricky was fucking it's insane, Like it's a childhood
Speaker 1: dream to even get to sit and talk about get
Speaker 1: to talk football with you, because, like, I mean, you
Speaker 1: were that big of a deal and you still are
Speaker 1: to this day. You are. I gotta ask you, Ricky.
Speaker 1: Was McConaughey big in the Texas circle yet in ninety
Speaker 1: eight or was he not your guy yet? He was
Speaker 1: biggest in ninety eight because he had something to come
Speaker 1: out and be proud of. So before every single game
Speaker 1: we were, say at the hotel, but every time, every
Speaker 1: night after the game, I come home and then there'd
Speaker 1: be like a twenty minute voice mail on my uh
Speaker 1: on my on my answering machine from from from Matthew. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What did he used to say? Alright, alright, all right?
Speaker 1: Did he ever liked he? Did he ever say any
Speaker 1: of those all right out out all rights in the
Speaker 1: in the voicemails, like did he just have fool McConaughey,
Speaker 1: Like it was like real, it was real speaking from
Speaker 1: the heart of like motivational speeches, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's a really intense dude, Like he'll get close to you,
Speaker 1: like this close and looking right in the eye and
Speaker 1: say what he has to say to you. So it was.
Speaker 1: It was a treat, you know, it was. It was
Speaker 1: just a special time in my life of when you
Speaker 1: put so much work into something and you finally start,
Speaker 1: you finally start to see a payoff. There's there's nothing
Speaker 1: like it, dude. He was on all the Sports Illustrated
Speaker 1: I mean I remember, I remember, I Mean, he's a
Speaker 1: huge deal. And there had to be some other who
Speaker 1: else did anyone Did you get close with any other celebrities,
Speaker 1: Texas people, or had to be someone else. I mean,
Speaker 1: we all know McConaughey's big ut guy. Anyone else like
Speaker 1: call you after you broke this record, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: there had to be some people. Ah, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of people. You know. I was hanging out with
Speaker 1: the time, going way back, hanging out out with Dennis Robin.
Speaker 1: He was really big at the time, you know, and
Speaker 1: people knew a classic positive influence on any exactly. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you we hung out at the super Bowl
Speaker 1: right after my senior year was in. It was in Miami,
Speaker 1: and we went to we went to a party and
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, once you come hang out with me,
Speaker 1: and I just remember taking Cholesi Yaeger and that's all
Speaker 1: I remember. Next thing I knew, I woke up in
Speaker 1: this room and I was like, I have no idea
Speaker 1: where I am, and you've been Roman, I was. I
Speaker 1: went up like I opened the door and I went
Speaker 1: up the stairs and I was right on Miami Beach.
Speaker 1: You know, he rented out he rented out Air Clapton's
Speaker 1: apartment and somehow that's where the party ended up. And
Speaker 1: I missed it because I passed out but if you
Speaker 1: kept hanging out with him, you would have woken up
Speaker 1: in North Korea. So consider yourself lucky. Actually that might
Speaker 1: have been interesting, But that's awesome. Brodman's the bigger anyone
Speaker 1: else from that time period, not that I can remember.
Speaker 1: You know, I got really close with Dan Lebotard uh
Speaker 1: so before. I mean, he's not like, he's not a
Speaker 1: super famous person, but that was really we love Lebatar here.
Speaker 1: That's probably the most the most meaningful relationship that I
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just hanging out with the famous person.
Speaker 1: You know. We were like best friends. And it was
Speaker 1: amazing when I got traded to Miami because he lived
Speaker 1: in Miami, so we got we got really closer and
Speaker 1: were able just to tell some really cool stories. And
Speaker 1: that was that was probably my favorite thing that came
Speaker 1: out of that time. Was is that friendship you also,
Speaker 1: I mean, you dig play behind some insane lineman. You
Speaker 1: got to give the hogs who that in the ninety
Speaker 1: eight line. You had Ben Adams, Octavius, Bishop Russell GaX
Speaker 1: GaX Camp, Jay Humphrey, Roger Russeller, Leonard Davis. That's the
Speaker 1: law firm right there, and none of them went to
Speaker 1: the NFL. But that's a great college. Leonard Leonard, Actually
Speaker 1: Leonard played in the NFL. He did play in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Leonard played for a minute. You know, when when I
Speaker 1: went on my recruiting trip to Texas, I remember I
Speaker 1: was walking over there showing me the door, and I
Speaker 1: saw these four humongous guys walking towards me. Okay, and
Speaker 1: I said, who are those guys? He said, those are
Speaker 1: the offensive linemen and they're all red shirts. So I
Speaker 1: knew that when I came as a freshman, i'd be
Speaker 1: playing with four of those five guys throughout my career.
Speaker 1: And I think that had a oh well not I
Speaker 1: think I know that was a major part of my
Speaker 1: success of just having this running behind the same guys
Speaker 1: all four years of college. Any crazy like Jesus Shuttleworth
Speaker 1: treatment over at those like frat parties or anything, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Yeah, honestly, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: my my head coach the first three years, John mcavick,
Speaker 1: he was one of those like by the books kind
Speaker 1: of guy, being I think being from California, I didn't
Speaker 1: have like the wealthy guy from my hometown to like
Speaker 1: take care of me. So I just was out there,
Speaker 1: you know, doing my thing, and there was a lot
Speaker 1: of adoration, but I didn't really get close to too
Speaker 1: many people like that. Now I read you started like
Speaker 1: there's always everyone's pretty public that you smoke weed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's well documented. Uh,
Speaker 1: you didn't start until what your senior year at college?
Speaker 1: Senior year at college? Now what made you? Because I'm
Speaker 1: going to open up a little bit and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what happened. I started smoking weed in like the
Speaker 1: sixth year of my career, and it's because some shit
Speaker 1: was going on. But I want to hear if there
Speaker 1: was something that propelled him. There was shit going on.
Speaker 1: So so so back back to where we started. When
Speaker 1: I came back from my senior year, I had all
Speaker 1: these goals when the Heisman break all these records. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I come back and first game, first two games,
Speaker 1: I kill it. Then we go to Kansas State and
Speaker 1: I get shut down like twelve twelve carries for like
Speaker 1: forty yards. Also find out that my girlfriend is now
Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Okay, so which quarterback is this? Major?
Speaker 1: Apple White? He was our he was our starting white.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you messed up his name at that speech.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you that guy. I'll tell you story
Speaker 1: after you tell me that. Don't actually screw that. I don't,
Speaker 1: but it's a long time ago. But it's just one
Speaker 1: of those things where I was like, how do you
Speaker 1: do that to your teammates? She was she was pretty
Speaker 1: bad anyways, so I don't blame him, so, you know.
Speaker 1: So I was just going through this and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: like why did I come back for this ship? You know,
Speaker 1: I was in that place where I was thinking I
Speaker 1: could be making millions of dollars not worried about this bullshit.
Speaker 1: Now I'm back here, I have to deal with the
Speaker 1: quarterback giving me the ball, that's sleeping with my girl,
Speaker 1: and now I'm not going to break all these It
Speaker 1: just was bad. And my roommate was a smoker, and
Speaker 1: he's like, you need to chill, and so he brought
Speaker 1: out he brought out his bong and he's like here
Speaker 1: and so like an anti drug commercial. I mean, I
Speaker 1: had smoked before, but it was just hanging out with
Speaker 1: the guys. I wasn't a smoker, but that was the
Speaker 1: first night where I smoked. And I remember went upstairs
Speaker 1: in my room and I wasn't obsessing about the girl
Speaker 1: or the quarterback or the bad game. I just was
Speaker 1: good and I started actually thinking positively about the future.
Speaker 1: And I'm not lying to you can look at the
Speaker 1: stat book. After that game, back to back three hundred
Speaker 1: yard Russian games, I just started smoking more weed. I
Speaker 1: feel like it would really up my game. It will.
Speaker 1: It will because I don't react to it like you, Ricky.
Speaker 1: I could drink and it quiets the voices. I smoke weed.
Speaker 1: It's like I had to party in my head and
Speaker 1: only the worst people showed up. It's not good for me,
Speaker 1: you know everybody. That's the process, though. You got to
Speaker 1: get those voices out, because they don't just disappear. If
Speaker 1: they're in there. You got to get them out. And
Speaker 1: sometimes we bury them, and you smoke, you get become
Speaker 1: aware of them so you could do something about them.
Speaker 1: Because to me, you know, especially as a football player,
Speaker 1: I was trying to push all that shit down. When
Speaker 1: I finally like looked at it and let it move,
Speaker 1: then it was gone and I could focus on what
Speaker 1: was really important. Different perspective, and it was the same
Speaker 1: with me. I've never told this story, and I've actually
Speaker 1: never told anyone. Really, I I tooke, you know, but
Speaker 1: you know, I was going through some shit. I got arrested.
Speaker 1: It was like my second year in the league or
Speaker 1: fourth year league or something like that, and like a
Speaker 1: lot of shit was just going on, and exactly what
Speaker 1: you said, it gave me the ability to slow down
Speaker 1: and and and just kind of look at things differently
Speaker 1: and put the pieces together, and also like relax my
Speaker 1: mind because my mind's always going, like I'm always thinking
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get cut, What's gonna happen here? My family
Speaker 1: hates me this, that. And once I started smoking, my
Speaker 1: buddy did the same thing. He's like, yo, oh, bro,
Speaker 1: you need to relax because I didn't smoke. I didn't
Speaker 1: smoke until I was like twenty seven, twenty six, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean I dabbled, but
Speaker 1: like I wasn't like a smoker, you know. And so
Speaker 1: then I did that, and it was exactly the same
Speaker 1: thing that you felt. It gave me a chance to
Speaker 1: just like reflect. You know. It's like the saying that
Speaker 1: mister Kraft told me en Rabalitov. It's Hebrew four, with
Speaker 1: all the bad, find the good in the bad, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of you feel that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you see that kind of perspective if you do it
Speaker 1: right and you get in a you know, safe environment
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, Sam, it may not be that
Speaker 1: for you, but I felt that exact same thing. And
Speaker 1: on Applewood or apple White. I could tell a quick story.
Speaker 1: He invited me to talk to his team. We usually
Speaker 1: used to coach Houston, and we were in there. We
Speaker 1: were playing the super Bowl and we were practiced using
Speaker 1: their facility, and he's like, Yo, Edelman, would you come,
Speaker 1: you know, come, let's go speak to the team. And
Speaker 1: he gives me this huge introduction. Yeah, this guy, that guy,
Speaker 1: And I go, oh, thanks, apple Wood, I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: like I fully botched his name. The whole fucking team
Speaker 1: starts laughing, boss busting out. It's supposed to be like
Speaker 1: an inspirational speech show. I'm clearly not Matthew McConaughey when
Speaker 1: it comes to speech. Get that's karma coming full circle.
Speaker 1: That's what he gets for banging Reggie's girl. He gets
Speaker 1: the botch name and embarrassed in front of his team.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. Now. But Reggie, I mean, I think,
Speaker 1: why do I call you Edgie, Holy, you're watching my
Speaker 1: name too. Hey, it's all that's how karma works. Ricky,
Speaker 1: Who have you slept with? Who was a close run
Speaker 1: in the past? No, Ricky, Uh? I mean I think
Speaker 1: you got really unfairly vilified by the media. You were
Speaker 1: ahead of your time in a lot of ways, you
Speaker 1: know when they really kind of played it out like
Speaker 1: you were a burnout. And I don't think that was
Speaker 1: fair to to do to you. Well, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't look at it that way. I mean, they're just
Speaker 1: doing their job. They couldn't understand what was going on
Speaker 1: with me, you know, they're they're the media, like they're
Speaker 1: covering us. You know. I just see myself as like
Speaker 1: a real warrior, you know, I wasn't just like fighting
Speaker 1: on the football field like I'm fighting in life. Real
Speaker 1: To think you were ahead of your time in that way,
Speaker 1: I don't think there were people that were as open
Speaker 1: as you were about this stuff at the time. Then
Speaker 1: the nature of being ahead of your time is you're
Speaker 1: always going to be misunderstood. I mean that that's what
Speaker 1: it That's what it means. That's that's that's that's a
Speaker 1: saying right there. I'm a big saying guy like Jack,
Speaker 1: I want you to cut that up. That could be
Speaker 1: like a neon sign. Man. Fuck, that's good stuff. It is. Man.
Speaker 1: Uh I'm thinking about that saying I'm sorry, No, you're good. Good.
Speaker 1: We try to keep it like conversational here, you know,
Speaker 1: and sudden this is more of us just laying it,
Speaker 1: laying it all out. I want to you know, you
Speaker 1: talked about how we've talked about environment and ecosystem. How
Speaker 1: badly would you wanted to play in a system like
Speaker 1: New England. It'd have been like I would have killed
Speaker 1: it up there, just you know, people from the outside
Speaker 1: day because all of the especially the cannabis stuff. People
Speaker 1: I think they misunderstand like my game, but like I'm
Speaker 1: a killer out there. You know, I'm a competitor, and
Speaker 1: I just I love playing against the Patriots, and I
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough being a Dolphin, I got to do
Speaker 1: it twice a year because like you know, you knew
Speaker 1: you everybody had to get up for that game, and
Speaker 1: you knew every time you play the Patriots, they're going
Speaker 1: to be over prepared, over prepared. So it spine. I
Speaker 1: mean with the saying what they say in football, if
Speaker 1: you ain't cheating. You ain't trying, so I get it.
Speaker 1: I think we got Eli to say that Bill's a cheater.
Speaker 1: I think we did fucking Eli. Great guy, no American hero.
Speaker 1: Tell us about Heisman your company. I want to hear.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: it already, and I just want to say thank you
Speaker 1: for sharing your story, because that's really what Heisman is about.
Speaker 1: So many people they hide how they utilize cannabis, and
Speaker 1: there's so many people out there suffering and that they
Speaker 1: don't even realize that shit I could get. I could
Speaker 1: get relief from what I'm dealing with, or I could
Speaker 1: get perspective, or I could get insight because everyone's lying
Speaker 1: about using cannabis, and so you know, a big part
Speaker 1: of the brand is really creating a platform for people
Speaker 1: to tell their story. You know, it's funny because yeah,
Speaker 1: we're a cannabis brand. I think of it as a
Speaker 1: lifestyle brand, but just living a life where you're utilizing
Speaker 1: cannabis to take yourself to the next level and telling
Speaker 1: that story, and that's what I'm really passionate about and
Speaker 1: that's why I started this brand. Well, it's very clear
Speaker 1: that you're passionate about it, and it's and it's also
Speaker 1: clear that you know you think outside the box. And
Speaker 1: the way you broke down your story like I wasn't
Speaker 1: going and telling my story that I smoke weed, like
Speaker 1: it made me feel comfortable enough to let to go
Speaker 1: out and and I like share that with you because
Speaker 1: you made it feel like it's not bad for me
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, and I guarantee it lot, No,
Speaker 1: I guarantee it. I mean, I know you're not thinking
Speaker 1: about it this way, but a lot of people who
Speaker 1: watch this, you know, are probably going to be more
Speaker 1: comfortable either trying it, using it, or coming out and
Speaker 1: talk sharing their experiences with Because when I was going
Speaker 1: through everything I was going through, there was very few
Speaker 1: people that I could relate to that were going through
Speaker 1: a similar experience. And so as I went through it all,
Speaker 1: I took it on myself to be that person for
Speaker 1: other people. And so you know the fact that you
Speaker 1: felt comfortable enough to be real and share your story
Speaker 1: like that's amazing. So thank you for that. Well, see
Speaker 1: for athletes, this is big. For a comedian, no one
Speaker 1: gives it. No one's like, wow, he really that was
Speaker 1: really cool? He shared he did drugs. No one cares.
Speaker 1: But I really think your honesty was so refreshing for
Speaker 1: the league and I think good for the sport. And
Speaker 1: it's funny that in some ways you were portrayed as
Speaker 1: not maybe not a positive role model. I think time
Speaker 1: has shown that you were. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean time.
Speaker 1: That's the value of time. You know. I was young.
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure it out, and all I
Speaker 1: knew is that I just keep swinging, I keep taking
Speaker 1: a shot. I'm going to figure it out. And I
Speaker 1: stuck with it. And to the NFL's credit, they gave
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to come back and you know, clear
Speaker 1: my name and leave the NFL lead my career with dignity.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the days, it's a wonderful
Speaker 1: story that I'm still standing to be able to tell it,
Speaker 1: and you're still working, and that you have a new
Speaker 1: thing with Heisman, which you know everyone should check out.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got to check it out. Man. We appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on to games with names presented by win Bet
Speaker 1: and talking about your story, talking about the game you
Speaker 1: had to break Tony Dorset's record, which is still insane.
Speaker 1: Go on win on a last field goal against Texas.
Speaker 1: Aggie's win the Cotton Bowl propel mac Brown's career. Also
Speaker 1: like getting all the messages from McConaughey. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's awesome that you gave us all this inteling
Speaker 1: and telling us your story. Man, and major major Applewood,
Speaker 1: fucking Major Applewood. Can't you guys would have win ten
Speaker 1: games if you didn't do that messed up man chemistry.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all good, Minor apple Wood. More like,
Speaker 1: this is the beauty of lifestyle. I don't think I
Speaker 1: would have been motivated to I go on a tear
Speaker 1: like that. You know, maybe it's maybe it's exactly what
Speaker 1: I needed to find cannabis and to be here telling
Speaker 1: this story. So thank you Major apple White exactly. That's
Speaker 1: a whit of wood. What the hell? I don't even
Speaker 1: know his name anymore. He said it so many times.
Speaker 1: I'm confirs. It's it is what it is, man. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on, dude. If you ever need anything
Speaker 1: for me, give me a call. Bro. Yeah, I'm in
Speaker 1: La too. We should get up sometime. Where do you live?
Speaker 1: I live in Manhattan Beach. I live over in like
Speaker 1: West Hollywood Flats Beverly Hills area perfect well at the
Speaker 1: link up. I love the South here. I lived in
Speaker 1: Hermosa for a couple of years. Yeah, I love it
Speaker 1: down here. It's it's just my kid lives in Laurel Canyon,
Speaker 1: so it's fucking far. I can take take me two
Speaker 1: hours to go see my kid and drop her off
Speaker 1: at school. Like I get it, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but well, thank you so much, Ricky. This is great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course you guys have fun, all right. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Let me up. What's the legacy of that game? Just
Speaker 1: that Ricky Williams is a badass. I think he's not
Speaker 1: like your traditional badass. He's like the badass that is
Speaker 1: that that goes around and like does a bunch of
Speaker 1: mitzvahs and like he just like once, we've had some
Speaker 1: good fucking guests. We've had some damn good guests. Like
Speaker 1: just some really good guys like same thing with like Megatron, kind,
Speaker 1: soft spoken, humble legends And even when we even tried
Speaker 1: to get him to bag on apple Wood, he couldn't.
Speaker 1: It's probably for his best mental health wise that he's
Speaker 1: not still mad about that hookup. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: carrying that ship with you. You're probably smoking bad weed.
Speaker 1: You know, this is this is what this is the
Speaker 1: chronic I'm not over it. You know, well he must
Speaker 1: be smoking that chronic that he did get over it,
Speaker 1: because like he basically told it, like yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't blame that he did, you know, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a very rock rock and roll at it. Dude.
Speaker 1: That was like remember George Harrison and Clapton what happened?
Speaker 1: He Laila, he takes his woman and uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think that was her real name, but he but
Speaker 1: that was the song about her takes her and and
Speaker 1: Harrison's like, yeah, it's rock and roll and that that's
Speaker 1: exactly how Ricky Williams handled it. Rock and roll. We're
Speaker 1: just said rock and roll. Did we settle the prop? Bet?
Speaker 1: I don't we get you. You were definitely on dir.
Speaker 1: I think we said three five. I think I counted two.
Speaker 1: I don't know I counted four. Then we just nearly
Speaker 1: got over. Oh so we're over. Yeah, Jules had two
Speaker 1: back to back right there, got it? I was wrong
Speaker 1: right right right, all right? Then never, damn it, we
Speaker 1: got it. You got it? So, like, how much is
Speaker 1: the position the running back. How much has it changed?
Speaker 1: I mean, this was the error of the running back.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think how rich the sport was. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it. Edrin James I believe was in his
Speaker 1: draft right. Uh, we had Marshall, we had Eddie, George,
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams, I remember Priest Holmes for a few of
Speaker 1: those years. I mean there was some running back. Davis
Speaker 1: troll Davis, there was some just Sean Alexander bettis bet
Speaker 1: the bus. I mean, the game change. This is ground
Speaker 1: and pound. Let's let's ride our Let's ride our guy
Speaker 1: until he can't ride. Yeah, I mean, and that's clearly
Speaker 1: what they did in this football game. Forty four carries
Speaker 1: and and you just saw like how gifted Ricky really
Speaker 1: was when he said, and it's it's a mental thing.
Speaker 1: It's not just a physical thing. When other guys are tired.
Speaker 1: And if I'm even a little tired, I know if
Speaker 1: I'm tired, I know he's tired. So and I know
Speaker 1: he can't tackle me if he's tired. Yeah, Like I'm
Speaker 1: better conditioned than he is, and I'm better than him,
Speaker 1: so he's not getting me. Like, and that's people probably
Speaker 1: misunderstand that he's he's a dog. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The media really portrayed him as not that, like he's
Speaker 1: just Oh, this guy that goes and does this and
Speaker 1: does that, he just smoke n bro. That guy was
Speaker 1: a great football team or a football player. And it
Speaker 1: seemed like, like I've heard through the grapevine, he's been
Speaker 1: a great football team, worked his fucking ass off. You know,
Speaker 1: he gives a shout out to every single guy on
Speaker 1: that big ass long record breaking run. You know, Oh,
Speaker 1: the backside receiver came and made the block. Oh my
Speaker 1: receiver came in, got the force. My full back goes in,
Speaker 1: blows up the whole like given his praise to all
Speaker 1: the guys, like not just being that asshole that says
Speaker 1: I did this, you know what I mean. That's weed too.
Speaker 1: It's like it makes you kind of it makes you introspective,
Speaker 1: kind of coke. If you're a coked out guy, you're
Speaker 1: not giving credit to that whole that whole team. You're
Speaker 1: saying that was me, that was me. But no, that's
Speaker 1: that's the weed talking. We were like, yeah, I'm his own,
Speaker 1: Yeah it's my uh I had I was trying to
Speaker 1: do a little scarface. I'm the back guy. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew so bad guy to sight, that's a fucking
Speaker 1: bad guy. I'm the bad guy. Class. That's all I got. Class.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. I mean it took a lot
Speaker 1: to take down Tony Montana. Not as much Ricky Williams
Speaker 1: could have withstood those gunshots to the way he ran
Speaker 1: that dude. No cocaine though, weed Tony Montana. That's one
Speaker 1: of the old time Like you were dead for a while.
Speaker 1: What what are we doing? Yeah? But I mean coke
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things, but it's mostly like
Speaker 1: I'm the ship. It's not like I can withstand your pubs.
Speaker 1: The world is yours. You did, Manny, dirty dude. I
Speaker 1: am a political refugee. I came with a cold Reggie.
Speaker 1: I feel terrible. I got caught. I don't know what
Speaker 1: where Reggie even came from. That was bad. Look. That
Speaker 1: was a bad look. I fuck him up, you know,
Speaker 1: as a coast. I'm trying to pick you up. But
Speaker 1: that was rough, dude. I heard it twice. That was
Speaker 1: apple White. That was yeah. Apple White was the guy
Speaker 1: who was handing the ball off to Reggie. Ricky. Now
Speaker 1: you got me doing it, handing it off to Ricky
Speaker 1: Williams the best college. I didn't even know who apple
Speaker 1: White was when I there. Can you imagine if Brady
Speaker 1: banged your girlfriend and then you had to see him
Speaker 1: every day? I think if it was that that way,
Speaker 1: I think it would probably propel me into getting a
Speaker 1: better girlfriend. Because it's tom that means we're on the
Speaker 1: same stratosphere of That's that's my thought process behind it.
Speaker 1: I I'm just thinking Ricky Williams right now. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking outside the because this is you know, this
Speaker 1: is good for it. Yeah, I never know. He seemed
Speaker 1: like an awesome dude and coolest dressed guy. Who else
Speaker 1: was cool? Cool dress dudes, cool dress. Randy Moss was
Speaker 1: a cool dress Randy was like Randy was swaggy early
Speaker 1: in his day. But the cool thing about Randy is
Speaker 1: he'd always keep his he'd pregame, he'd always put his
Speaker 1: gloves on his face mask. He'd always and he'd be danged,
Speaker 1: they'd be dangling from his face mask, and you know,
Speaker 1: you'd be talking to guys and that was like, So
Speaker 1: I started putting my shirt on the face mask too,
Speaker 1: because Randy did. Michael Vick was always swaggy with his
Speaker 1: own cleats. It was the dope strap cleats. Yeah, insane
Speaker 1: Jack Lambert, Yeah, I mean that's just old school nitty
Speaker 1: gritty like eh with the neck roll, beist mode, pist mode.
Speaker 1: He just had the well he always had crazy tint.
Speaker 1: Visors Andy had his own stuff. He had his own
Speaker 1: clothing always remember pist mode. Yeah, and the dreads out
Speaker 1: the back. It was a cool look. Alvin Kamara, he's
Speaker 1: he's pretty swaggy. I think he's got like diamond teeth
Speaker 1: and then he has like a gold mouthpiece that goes
Speaker 1: over the diamond teeth. And then he always has like
Speaker 1: cool cleats, like awesomely painted or colored cleats. And the
Speaker 1: Saints Black and Gold is like, if you do that,
Speaker 1: you got to save your money because you don't want
Speaker 1: to be handing over a grill to a pawn shop.
Speaker 1: That's a rough look. You know, you got to make
Speaker 1: sure you got money saved if you're doing that. But hey, Jack,
Speaker 1: did we forget anything. We were pretty good this episode
Speaker 1: when we were talking Arnold, he and Devido linked back
Speaker 1: up in ninety four for Junior. Yeah, when I looked off,
Speaker 1: one of them was pregnant, right, Yeah, yeah, Arnold, Arnold. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We also talked about Running Man release date nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 1: Hunger Games Catching Fire release date two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: so running Man way ahead. Texas went on to win
Speaker 1: the national championship under Mac Brown in two thousand and five. Yeah. Surprisingly, damn.
Speaker 1: I met him. I met him once. I did a
Speaker 1: thing with this production company. They're all really cool, he was,
Speaker 1: he was, alright, he's a legend. His son is a
Speaker 1: great director too. Up in the air. What else, Juno.
Speaker 1: He's done a lot of movies. Oh, thank you for smoking.
Speaker 1: That's a great one. I was going to say Private Parts,
Speaker 1: but he turned down directing Son of the Beach, another
Speaker 1: Howard Stern project. I was wrong there, Ivan Rightman recently
Speaker 1: passed away. Legend right Yeah, Ghostbusters the Regionals, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love those. I speaking of other classic comedies we mentioned,
Speaker 1: and it was the Hawaiian Tropic Girls on the Bus
Speaker 1: at the end classic. Also got to give some sewan
Speaker 1: to Leonard Davis on who was blocking for Ricky all
Speaker 1: those years. He ended up having an eleven year NFL career,
Speaker 1: played for the Cardinals, Cowboys, Lions in forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: and then Ricky mentioned that quarterback room when he got
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. It did, in fact have two guys
Speaker 1: named Billy Joe, Billy Joe Hobert, Billy Joe Tolliver, Danny
Speaker 1: Warfel and Jake Delone Jake Time, the hometown guy down
Speaker 1: there in New Orleans. And then lastly we mentioned, uh,
Speaker 1: some George Harrison tunes there at the end. That was
Speaker 1: something in which he wrote about Eric Clapton dating his
Speaker 1: ex wife. It's rumored to believe or in Clapton. I
Speaker 1: think Tyler is that correct? And Clapton played on it. Wow,
Speaker 1: is like you took my wife. You can do it.
Speaker 1: You can do a little number on my tune. How
Speaker 1: about that something in the way old Clapton. Let's name
Speaker 1: the game, all right? Then the game is the run,
Speaker 1: Rooky run or Rookie breaks the record, something like that.
Speaker 1: What do you think Ricky smokes the record? Ricky smokes
Speaker 1: the record. I like it. Gameplay. I mean this is
Speaker 1: just old school nineties football ground pound mono E mono,
Speaker 1: big play here, big play there, gameplay. I'd have to
Speaker 1: say it's like a seven. Yeah, I was gonna say seven.
Speaker 1: It's seven. Yeah. There's two good football teams could be
Speaker 1: some recency bias because you know, it's a different generation
Speaker 1: of game, you know what I mean, these guys ground
Speaker 1: and pound. What do you think for star powers? Not?
Speaker 1: We can go too high here, can't. It's just Ricky Well.
Speaker 1: I mean you got Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell, Dante hall As.
Speaker 1: We said, I mean, but I think we gotta go
Speaker 1: like five to five. What do you think is that
Speaker 1: even high? Yeah, we can go five to five. But
Speaker 1: it is the best college football player of all time.
Speaker 1: But I mean, he's he's it's five to five. We've
Speaker 1: had Pro Bowls. I mean, this is the high stakes.
Speaker 1: He said, this is the biggest it's the biggest rivalry
Speaker 1: for Texas. He said, he said it's big. He said
Speaker 1: it was bigger. Did he quote bigger than Oklahoma. That's
Speaker 1: what Ricky said. Yeah, I was surprised. Kyler's shaking his
Speaker 1: head though I likes to go keep it low. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Kyler, he he I forgot he went to
Speaker 1: Texas and broke the record for rushing and what do
Speaker 1: you say, steak six? Yeah, steaks are about I'd go seven.
Speaker 1: You gotta give it seven. This is that's a big rivalry. Okay,
Speaker 1: you get these Texas fans that are gonna be listening
Speaker 1: to this, they're gonna sit here and say, these fucking
Speaker 1: Coast people don't know shit, and we don't, and we
Speaker 1: admittedly don't, and we're doing our best to brush up
Speaker 1: on college because it's not either of our strong suits.
Speaker 1: I would say. But I'm learning, I'm loving. We're learning
Speaker 1: a lot, as long as we learned from it. The
Speaker 1: name Ricky smokes the record. I mean, that's that's the
Speaker 1: best thing on there. Yeah, you gotta go seven at least, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: Seven three? Seven point three? What's that? Give us a
Speaker 1: total of a six point seven total? All right, Well,
Speaker 1: this was a fun one. Ricky was a great guest.
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