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Speaker 1: November twenty seventh, nineteen ninety eight, Darryl Kay, Royal Memorial Stadium, Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Two minutes left in the first quarter. Ricky Williams first

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Speaker 1: through the line, he cuts to the left, he breaks

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Speaker 1: a tackle, He's down the sideline. This is Ricky's record.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names, presented by Win Bett. I'm

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, I'm Sam Morrel. We're here to find the

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Speaker 1: greatest games of all time energy and today on this

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Speaker 1: beautiful podcast day, we got Texas versus Texas A and M,

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Speaker 1: who was ranked sixth this year in nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: and our guest, Ricky Williams. I can't wait, legend, maybe

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Speaker 1: the greatest college football player of all time. Insane first

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Speaker 1: reactions when I think of this second to last game

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Speaker 1: of the season. This guy's not even supposed to be

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Speaker 1: playing this year because he could have got drafted number

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Speaker 1: one the year before. Probably he's got forty four carries

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Speaker 1: too much. It's like you ever see, uh we're talking

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Speaker 1: about this? Is this ethical to put a running back

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Speaker 1: through this? I in this tay and age. I guess

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Speaker 1: I mean there was no ethics. This was ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: No ethics. Zero, ethics are new. We just discovered ethics. No,

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Speaker 1: but it's like we ever see a movie and they

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Speaker 1: have like a child actor and they're like, you can't

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Speaker 1: do more than eight hours or whatever. There's limits. There

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Speaker 1: should be over forty carries. I guarantee McCauley Culkin had

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Speaker 1: more than eight hours a day, and that was also

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Speaker 1: in the nineties. For sure. He also hung out with

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, which would not be allowed in today's age.

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Speaker 1: I don't think probably frowned upon, frowned upon, at least

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Speaker 1: probably frowned upon. This hits so close to the heart

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Speaker 1: for me because in nineteen ninety eight I was like

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Speaker 1: a little kid. I was twelve years old, and everyone

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Speaker 1: always heard about bo Jackson, how this guy was unstoppable

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Speaker 1: to sport athlete. And then you throw on these games

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Speaker 1: every Saturday. And I didn't really watch Texas, but you

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Speaker 1: knew Ricky Williams. Yeah, this guy was like averaging one

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety three yards a game, running up and

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Speaker 1: down the field, jumping over guys, running over guys, out

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Speaker 1: running guys. He's like two hundred and thirty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: He runs a four to three eight back in ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: Like he's honestly one of the most dominant football players

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Speaker 1: that ever played on Saturday. Yeah, it's it's it's it's insane,

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Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to hear his story how he felt,

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Speaker 1: because it's pretty It's pretty well known that Ricky loved

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Speaker 1: college football and he loved a little bit of this,

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Speaker 1: right Yeah, he little little Mary Jay, little devils. Let

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Speaker 1: us never hurt nobody, And we're gonna hear about that

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Speaker 1: from old Ricky himself. But to get back to this game, man,

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Speaker 1: like forty four carries two hundred and seventy two yards

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Speaker 1: one touchdown in this game, he beats Tony dors sets record.

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Speaker 1: He only needed like sixty eight yards, smashes it, and

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Speaker 1: like the story is, Mac Brown says, I don't want

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Speaker 1: you smashing it on a little run. You got to

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Speaker 1: sixty eight yard er. I mean, it really is mind blowing.

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Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. It's like when Jeter got his three

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Speaker 1: Bogs did it in Tampa. It's not always New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Bogs is a Yankee and a red sock. I

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Speaker 1: was trying to bring some unity here, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: bringing unity, you know. And Jeter, I mean, who doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's Jeter. He's cool, awesome, Jeter. We know

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Speaker 1: you're listening. Come on, games with names, so many games

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Speaker 1: to talk about. The gift bag? Is it real? Is

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Speaker 1: he's a married man. But we're talking about old school Jeter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He seems like a gentleman. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever gift bagged a woman? Absolutely? Not one weird thing.

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Speaker 1: Just am a father of a daughter. A woman's leaving

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Speaker 1: Julian's place and she just takes it back out. Entourage

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Speaker 1: Season four on DVD. What the hell the hell are

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Speaker 1: we doing? It's always us movie Sam, the movie you're wearing.

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Speaker 1: The movie Androge was good. It's not as good as

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Speaker 1: the Joker. But let's go to let's live back into

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Speaker 1: this day. In nineteen ninety eight number one movie Bugs Life.

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Speaker 1: Never saw it. I heard it's great. I was I

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Speaker 1: a cool thing. But what what? What? Who did ants?

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Speaker 1: I remember what too bad? Woody Allen wasn't attracted to

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Speaker 1: we got? Yeah works? Yeah, Ants was good. I heard,

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Speaker 1: I heard, I've heard Bugs Life is better. I guess

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Speaker 1: there's like a lot of hidden stories. But or like

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Speaker 1: what is it? What do they call that? Like there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of metaphorically type speaking, there's metaphors, right, yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well number one song Doop Lauren Hell great, great great album.

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Speaker 1: got a vibe there's that one song. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: a little of it. Well, I loved hearing the Fujis too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ready started out, Yeah Fuji's yeah, babe. Well

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Speaker 1: we'll have to get back to it. Get back to it.

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Speaker 1: Remember this the powder. The Powerpuff Girls premieres on Cartoon Network.

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Speaker 1: Cartoon Network at all the Bangers Dexter's laboratory, they had

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Speaker 1: Johnny Bravo, they they had some heat. I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: was a Bubbles person, truly, I like bubbles. But did

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Speaker 1: They were cool. It was like that was like a thing.

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Speaker 1: That's what I remember. Final season of Seinfeld in the

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Speaker 1: Air alrightp RP. Seinfeld went out. You know, look, Larry

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Speaker 1: going to order. If I'm having struggles, I just throw

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Speaker 1: on Seinfeld. You get in, you get out. It's great background. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just especially those like seasons like three through seven,

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Speaker 1: you're just getting heat. They're all it looked. The whole

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Speaker 1: about that just pure fire. Viagra got the FDA approval

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Speaker 1: earlier in ninety eight. You remember that Jake Gillenhall movie

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Speaker 1: was in it and other drugs, Love and other drugs.

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Speaker 1: Never saw it. It was fucking good. Jake Jillenhole rarely disappoints.

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Speaker 1: like an old vibe. Zodiac is great Zodiac. And then

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Speaker 1: October Sky never saw it what it was like, such

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Speaker 1: rocket viagra metaphors throughout this episode. I mean, real motherfuckers

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Speaker 1: my life. I'm jumping on it. Yeah, you gotta jump

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Speaker 1: brings me back Horny Goweed. Do you remember that shit? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: first time ever seeing a Viagara pill. WHOA. So my

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Speaker 1: global events. Now what do we got? Jesse Ventura the

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Speaker 1: chin Yeah, was elected as the governor of Minnesota. Great cameo.

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Speaker 1: Running Man was running. Running Man's great. I love that movie.

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Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger badass. That's like they're like paved the way for

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Speaker 1: Hunger Games was based off of when I saw Hunger Games,

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Speaker 1: Hunger Games come out after Running Man? Who knows? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Running Man was a great movie. Schwarzenegger had had had

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Speaker 1: an epic run in the eighties, oh eighties to like

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Speaker 1: and uh Man. Bill Burr used to have the best

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Speaker 1: bit on on Schwarzenegger about like this, of course this

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Speaker 1: guy thought he could get away with cheating. Like look

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Speaker 1: course he thought he would just keep conquering everything was

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Speaker 1: a I'm butchering the bit. But look up the Bill

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Speaker 1: Burr Schwartzenegg, he's conan Yeah, man, True lies is one

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Speaker 1: of my favors too. Twins, Twins Classic. Then there was

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Speaker 1: like where he got pregnant. That's when Terminator the Terminators

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Speaker 1: rare time where the sequels better than the original. Is

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Speaker 1: there anything else like that? Maybe god Some people argue

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Speaker 1: Godfather too. I lean one, but two. You do have

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Speaker 1: the nero am Pacino, but one your brando. I'm I'm,

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Speaker 1: also get like, I'm not trying to flex or anything,

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Speaker 1: but I did you see top Gun two. This isn't

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Speaker 1: That's like when you tell a crazy locker room story

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Speaker 1: what's your number? One? Like the most quoted one I

418
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: use is probably dumb and Dumber? Easily and easy number

419
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: one for me. Dum, dumb and dumber. Liar, liar, it

420
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: was awesome. Yeah, uh, big mask guy. Just the performance alone. Yeah,

421
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: it's like Jim Carrey in the Mask is like Ricky

422
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: Williams in this game. Just give him the ball and

423
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: let him take over. Do you think any of that

424
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: was in the script or he just said go do?

425
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's hard to write some of

426
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: that shit. And I saw him recently in the New Sonics.

427
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: He's fucking good. I love Jim Carrey. He loved Jim Carrey. Man, Jim,

428
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: if you're a sports guy and you want to come

429
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: on games with names, we'd love to have you. Man,

430
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: how's your burger? Why don't you eat up? I'll let

431
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: you know. Remember when they're trying to feed him the pills.

432
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: Pills are good, pills are good to kill a guy. Yeah,

433
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: they killed him and they left him on the side

434
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: of the road. Man. And then remember when they had

435
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: like the at the very end, Oh sorry, my friend's

436
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: a little slow. The town's eight miles that way for

437
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: like the what was the sun tanning lotion girls or something? Yeah,

438
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: I remember, like I was like eight years old. I

439
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: was like, hmmm, I would definitely not do that. I

440
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: saw in the theater with my grandparents, and I remember

441
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: they were just furious at me. I think my grandma

442
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: wanted to see Apollo thirteen or something. It was something

443
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: like tasteful she wanted to see, and it was like, please, Grandma,

444
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: dumb and dumber. I'm like, it's supposed to be really good.

445
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: And then, of course five minutes and they're like, what

446
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: what have we done? Polly want a cracker? Shout out

447
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: to my grandparents who took me to Dumb and Dumber

448
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: and it was not their cup of tea. Good grandparents,

449
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: they were the best. They stuck with what you want grandparents. Yeah,

450
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to the gaming corner, presented by

451
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: win Bet. Okay, so prop bet, are we thinking over under?

452
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: How many times anyone can say hook them? How many

453
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: times you can say, all right, all right, which one

454
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: should we go with? Alright? Alright, alright? Is that the

455
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: McConaughey thing. Yep? How many times can we get that?

456
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: I think three is reasonable, three and a half, three

457
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: and a half you can hit four on that. I

458
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm a confident guy. You're a confident guy.

459
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: But I'm a humble guy. You just had a couple

460
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: of minutes ago. So my confident, I'm a humble Well.

461
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they are opposites. I think I think

462
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: you can be a confident, humble guy. Khaky is the opposite.

463
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: I think you're I don't think you're cocky. I teeter

464
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: at it sometimes you teeter it. But the greats do.

465
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: You're a great player man. Alright, alright, alright, let's feel

466
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't take it, so we went to McConaughey. All right,

467
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: all right, I didn't even mean to do that. It

468
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: was just subconsciously in my head. But let's hear from

469
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams. But before then, let's take a quick break

470
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Speaker 1: and we're joined. Sam By, arguably the best college football

471
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: player of all time. A San Diego native. Yeah, Heisman

472
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: Trophy winner, dual sport athlete, A lot of people don't know,

473
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: loved baseball, played in the miners, an Austin, Texas legend

474
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: when it was legendary to be in Austin, Texas. I mean,

475
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: we haven't had that in a while. Right now. Uh,

476
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: he's got a statue. He's a beast that the new

477
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints traded literally their whole draft to draft him

478
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: because he was that good of a football player in college,

479
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: and everyone knew it was a non miss. He's not

480
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: going to be a bust. He has an incredible story,

481
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, as a pro as a kid in his upbringing,

482
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: as a college football athlete, and he played thirteen years

483
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: in the league and was a beast in the league.

484
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: Just didn't get to play on the best teams we

485
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: got Ricky Williams. Man, thanks for joining us. Oh, thanks

486
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: for having me. This is a pleasure, dude, The pleasure

487
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: is ours. We were just talking nineteen ninety eight. Like

488
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: when I was a kid and I played running back

489
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: as a kid, like you watched every Saturday. It didn't

490
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: matter who they were playing, It didn't matter how many

491
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: people were in the box, it didn't matter anything. You

492
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: knew Ricky Williams was going to break some tackles, outrun people,

493
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: jump over people, and get the ball about a million times,

494
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: just as he did in this game where he beat

495
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Tony Dorsett's record, Like your dream. Clearly I've heard you

496
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: talk about it. You you you loved college football? Was

497
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: that that that was your thing? Yeah? So I mean

498
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned I was a two sport athlete, as I

499
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: grew up in San Diego watching the Padres, watching Tony

500
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: Gwynn best swinging that that was the best swinging base

501
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: that was. That was an era in baseball in the

502
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: eighties where it was like Gwen in the n L

503
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: and Wade Bogs in the a L. And it was

504
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: like the two sweetest swings. Yeah, that was Giants fan

505
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Will Clark, Sorry Clark, that's a great one. Clark and

506
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Barry bro Barry was a fucking beast dude that he

507
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: would see one pitch, He would see one pitch a

508
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: week and then be a dinger. I don't care if

509
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: he was on anything. That was the best baseball player

510
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: of all time. If we're talking sweet swings, you can't

511
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: leave Ken Griffith one of the prettiest swings. Yeah. So

512
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: again this is I love this, right, Sharon, going back

513
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: to these days. But yeah, I grew up a baseball

514
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: fan watching these guys, and so I wanted to be

515
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: the next one. And then when I was about twelve,

516
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: I started watching Notre Dame football on NBC, and I

517
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: got the bug for just a college football tradition, and

518
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: so I decided. When I was being recruited, I told

519
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: all the baseball recruiters, I'm playing college football, told all

520
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: the college recruiters, I'm playing minor league baseball, and so

521
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: I was able. It worked out. So I took the

522
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: scholarship to Texas, but I had to give it back

523
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: when I got drafted, because you can't be a professional

524
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: sport and an amateur athlete on scholarship. So the Phillies

525
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: drafted me in the eighth round and paid for my education,

526
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: and all throughout college I spent my summers playing minor

527
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: league baseball. But I was just much better at football,

528
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: and so eventually I had to let go with my

529
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: dream to be a baseball player and I stuck with football.

530
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: But my dream was to be the best college football

531
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: player I could be and then go play baseball. But

532
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: I just kept with the football thing. Well you accomplish that.

533
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at these numbers. Can we get

534
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: these numbers real quick? Sorry? I haven't got them off

535
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: the top of my dome. It was a long time ago, dude,

536
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: don't worry it, dude. And I played a lot of

537
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: football too, So you get hit in the head, you

538
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: forget I do a lot of I do a lot

539
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: of drinking. But uh so I'm right there with you guys,

540
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: not really, but uh you uh, Ricky, I mean, you

541
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: have this historic season in college and you could have

542
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: probably been the first overall pick in the NFL draft.

543
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: But you come back, you come back to college. What

544
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: about it? Were You're like, I gotta do it again? Uh?

545
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: You know again. I always wanted to be a college

546
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: football player, and so for me, leaving college early didn't

547
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: make any sense. But at the end of my junior year,

548
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: my coach I recruited me, John Mcivit got fired, and

549
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: so I seriously started thinking about going to the NFL

550
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: because who wants to be at college with the new

551
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: coach and all that stuff. And two things happened. The

552
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: first thing was I was talking to Mac Brown, who

553
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: was a new coach, and I pretty much decided I

554
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: was taking off, and he said, you know, I know

555
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: you're probably leaving, but you've been here the longest, so

556
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: I'd just love for you to give me a heads

557
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: up on what's going on with the team. So we

558
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: spent about three hours used to media share and everything

559
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: I thought and felt about the team, and I noticed

560
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: the next day when I went to the facility, you know,

561
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: probably half of what we talked about he already started

562
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: to implement some changes. And I felt empowered as a leader.

563
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: So that got me, you know, feeling like coming back

564
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: might be a good idea. And then that same week,

565
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I was flipping through the College Football Almanac and I

566
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: flipped through to see all purpose yards, and I noticed

567
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: that I was thinking fourth or fifth. But I did

568
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: the math, and I said, if I have just a

569
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: little better season than I did as a junior, I

570
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: could have the most rushing yards ever in college football history.

571
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: And that intrigued me. And then I flipped a couple

572
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: more pages and I got to total touchdowns rushing touchdowns,

573
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: and I saw, if I had the same year I

574
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: had as a junior, I could have the most rushing

575
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: touchdowns and total touchdowns in college football history. I was like, damn.

576
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Flipped a couple more pages, got to all purpose yards.

577
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. I did the math, and I said,

578
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: if I have a decent year like I had last year,

579
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I could be the you know, all purpose leader for

580
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: all time. And I thought, man, I have this opportunity

581
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: to be, like to have this triple crown and it

582
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: was so intriguing, I said, I got to take a

583
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: shot at it. And so those two things really were

584
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: why I came back for my senior year. And that

585
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: that shows you kind of competitor Ricky Williams was. I mean,

586
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: you set a goal in college and you went out

587
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: and achieved it. You honored even through a coaching change,

588
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: your scholarship, and you went back and you did what's

589
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: best for not only you, but like you helped out

590
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: Mac Brown. You you propelled mac Brown into probably you know,

591
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the best stint that called you know, Texas football's had

592
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: in a long time, if not ever. So when you

593
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: see these these running backs nowadays who were on like

594
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: these load managements and they they don't play in the

595
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: bowl game, like you got to be like, man, that's

596
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: that's got to be crazy, y'all. I mean, I can

597
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: understand the load management part, kind of it's not me,

598
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: but I understand it. The sitting out bowl games, it

599
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: is hard. I have I have a hard time with that,

600
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, And it's me though, it's not them. I'm

601
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: just old school. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan of

602
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: amateur sports. You know, the word amma, amateur comes from

603
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: love so this idea of playing for the love of it,

604
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, and to me, I couldn't imagine sitting on

605
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: a bowl game, like damn, we're talking load management, but

606
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: it's forty four carries too much. That's insane to me.

607
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: You carry them all forty four times in a game?

608
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Is that in? Is that crazy? You know back then

609
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy. Today is crazy. And that's one part.

610
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: The other part it depends on the game. You know.

611
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: There's those some games where you might need it, but

612
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: to do it consistently, that's too much. Do you get tired?

613
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: You carried the rock forty four times and like you

614
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: were still outrunning people like, do you ever get tired? Well,

615
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean I was tired, but mainly because that was

616
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: the last game of the year. So I've been carrying

617
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, for two thousand yards going up

618
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: to that point. So it was a lot going through

619
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: the season. But the nature of my game was being

620
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: tired was part of my game. I mean, to me,

621
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: that's why I got an unfair advantage because if I'm

622
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: tired and the defender's tired, he still has to tackle me,

623
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: you know. And you saw that people couldn't tackle you

624
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: and I never always remember, you know, he was like

625
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: the pinnacle. Like there's like these bowling ball type running backs,

626
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: especially like and I'm just going to correlate it to

627
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: the pros and where I was at, Like no one

628
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: ever wanted to tackle, especially when it was cold, guys

629
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: like him, Like you get these big guys that run low,

630
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: great pad level, built in pad level, and then you

631
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: got to see him in the middle of the hole

632
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: and once they break through, like and that's what you

633
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: saw with him. I don't want to go to Trader

634
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Joe's when it's cold. I mean, I can't imagine what

635
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: you guys went through. I mean it's insane, okay, And

636
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: he would break a tackle in like his open field

637
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: and then he had the like the speed out run.

638
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's pretty much insane. And can we

639
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: talk nineties late nineties football fashion. Probably the swaggiest dude

640
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: ever out there. He always had the cut. He had

641
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: the cut, the cut hemmed jersey, you'd have like the

642
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: spatty cleats, you had the baby dreads going on, like

643
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: you were like an innovator and like now it's getting

644
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: back to that, Like everyone dressed like that in practice

645
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: like you know, you always like try to swag out

646
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: in practice with the game. You never, like Ricky Williams

647
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: actually swagged out throughout and created like pretty much swagged

648
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: for now. You have to be Ricky's level of good.

649
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: I mean I saw a guy in the one train

650
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: the other day and it cut him shirt. He did

651
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: not have Ricky's physique, so it didn't work. But when

652
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: you have the skill to back it up like Ricky did.

653
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: I always say, like Eddie Murphy, you know, delirious raw

654
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: he wears, you can't wear that that outfit as an

655
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: open micro. When you're Eddie Murphy, you can wear that outfit.

656
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: You got to have the swag and the skill to

657
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: back it up what you had because you were a

658
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: great player. Well, I think is all part of the vision.

659
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: You know. I think to be a great athlete, you

660
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: got to have a vision of that great athlete in

661
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: your head that you're trying to work towards. And for me,

662
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: the outfit, you know, the costume was a big was

663
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: a big part of that image. Look good, play good,

664
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: feel good or what was it? Look good, feel good,

665
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: play good exactly? Frimetime baby, Yeah, it's real. Can you

666
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: talk about getting drafted into some of the teams you

667
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: played on, you know, the Saints, Miami. I mean, what

668
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: were those experiences like for you, Well, Julian said, it

669
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: really there's so much about fit. You know, Like to me,

670
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: if you get drafted, they've scouted you. You You got talent,

671
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: But I think the next level is finding that system

672
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: where you fit. Part of it is the scheme, but

673
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: also part of it is the personnel. And I think

674
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: it was close. It was really close for me in

675
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: New Orleans. And I think when I the time I

676
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: got traded to Miami, it was the peri fit. It

677
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: was a team that played hell of defense. They had

678
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback, pretty good receiving corps, but they

679
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: really wanted to establish the run, and I think, you know,

680
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: that was a sweet spot for me. New Orleans was close.

681
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: You know, we had a great defense. When I got drafted.

682
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: Quarterback position, we had two guys named Billy Joe, and

683
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: we didn't have we didn't really have anything else on offense,

684
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: and so it just and I think also coach Dickert

685
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: was a little bit old school in his hiring of

686
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: coaches because our offensive coordinator, he just believed the old

687
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: school you know, run the same play and make him

688
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: stop you you know, and that didn't work. I got

689
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: to I got to I got to Miami North Turner,

690
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: who is in my mind offensive genius, especially scheme in

691
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: a run game, and he just he saw what I

692
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: did well and he used motion and schemes to make

693
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: sure that my talent was was could could could accomplish

694
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: things on the field. And it worked. It worked. I

695
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: got to. Then I stayed with Miami, and I was

696
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: versatile enough that I could find a place to fit.

697
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: You know, Ronnie Brown was drafted in two thousand and

698
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: five and we started running the Wildcat, which was great

699
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: and kept us both on the field. And then my

700
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: last season I played with the Ravens. And you know,

701
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: I see this a lot, but I see it's really

702
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: difficult late in your career, especially if you have some success,

703
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: to go to a new team. Because you know, I

704
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: was in Miami, we went through the ups and downs.

705
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Like everywhere in Miami, it was just everybody knew me,

706
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: loved me, appreciated me. I went to Baltimore, it was

707
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: like a whole new Like I had to start over

708
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: at the beginning. You know, I was almost forty, you know,

709
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: I had to start over at the beginning, trying to

710
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: like make a name for myself, improve myself, and that's

711
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot. So I ended up

712
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: only one year in Baltimore and I decided I'm ready

713
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: to do something else. I completely agree. That's half the

714
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: reason why I retired. If I wasn't gonna play there,

715
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to play anywhere else because I want

716
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: to learn a new scheme. I don't want to go

717
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: learn the new lunch ladies, the people in the building. Like,

718
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, you become family with these people, and then

719
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: you got to re establish yourself, you know, and people

720
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: do shit differently. You know, they may not get this

721
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: at you. They may not like I completely understand with that,

722
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 1: especially when you get older, Like when I was older

723
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: in the locker room, like you got a lot of

724
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: young players, and there's different like like our generation was

725
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: completely your generation was completely different than the one before,

726
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: and and vice versa. You become the older guy. It's like,

727
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for me to get out. Yeah, you know,

728
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: I don't do that dance. I don't you know this,

729
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: or I don't I don't, I don't. I'm out on

730
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: my phone all day. You know, it's crazy how different

731
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: it changes each like every ten years in that locker room.

732
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: But let's get back to the Texas Texas A and

733
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: M game. Like you guys were on the verge, you

734
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: guys had. You guys were four and seven the year

735
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: before you completely balled out. But this year, you guys

736
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: are nine and two. You're playing against six ranked at

737
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. It's pretty big rival anytime two

738
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: Texas teams are playing, it's pretty big, right, It's a

739
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: huge rival. I mean Texas Texas A and M has

740
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: been the biggest rivalry. It's bigger than Texas. OU it's

741
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: a bigger it's huge. Thank you for clearing that up

742
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: for you know, a West Coast guy, a New Yorker

743
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: like this game. So the game plan was just give

744
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: it to you and let let's write it off of

745
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: you the whole game or what well the game plan

746
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: was coming into the game. I think I needed seventy

747
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: two yards to break the record, So I think Coach

748
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: Brown's first thing was break this record and then win

749
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: the game. But he knew if I break the record

750
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: and everyone gets excited, it's going to be easier. It's

751
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: going to be easier to win the game. So I

752
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: remember that first quarter. He might have given me the

753
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: ball like twenty times or something. He just kept feeding

754
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: me because he wanted to. He wanted to get that

755
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: out of the way so that we could focus on

756
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, and then then the one you broke it.

757
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: What was a sixty eight yarder where you dip out,

758
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: they didn't have the edge. Then you get in, you split,

759
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: you come off the butt of the blocker, and then

760
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: you have the open field running ability to break the

761
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: tackle and go. And then you get it down the

762
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: sideline you cut back like it's crazy. I heard his story.

763
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: Did mac Brown really say you better break it on

764
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: a long run? He did, but he always says stuff

765
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: like that. You know something I read that you said,

766
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: Julian about a receiver's job is to block in the

767
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: run game. And you know, and what I love about

768
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: the play was a sixty yard touchdown run. What I

769
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: love about the play was, you know, coaches say, if

770
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: everyone does their job, every score should be a touch

771
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: every place should be a touchdown. And when I go

772
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: back and watch that play, every single person on the

773
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: field did their job. Okay, it was just a regular

774
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: lead play to the left line, did a good job

775
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: isolating the defensive lineman. My full back did a good

776
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: job hitting the outside linebacker. Okay, you know, the play

777
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: side receiver take most dangerous men exactly. He came down

778
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: and then what the coach said to the running back,

779
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: We're leaving one for you. Okay, Kwame came down, crack

780
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: the safety. The little corner came up, bounced off my shoulder.

781
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: I was out in the open field, okay, running down

782
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: the field. Their backside corner, the fastest guy on their team,

783
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: took an angle. Okay. Our backside receiver chased them all

784
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: the way down the field, pushed them out of bounce

785
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: just enough so I could cut in and get into

786
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: the end zone. I'm telling you. It was everyone on

787
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: the field how to do their job to make that

788
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: play work. And that's a beautiful thing about football. It's

789
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: the ultimate team sport. And I always remember what he said.

790
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: You know, the receiver comes in, he cracks his safety.

791
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: And they always say that specifically because they always say

792
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: the corners the worst tackler. That's the worst tackler. If

793
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: you get tackled by the corner, they're gonna be looking

794
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: and they're looking at you sideways. But uh, it's it

795
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: really is true. But the thing with like watching Ricky

796
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: play like you were not only like there's there's certain

797
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: guys that were athletic freaks that they go in and

798
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: they just try to run through the hole like you

799
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: were able to do that, But then you were also

800
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: able to, you know, squeeze that double team to the

801
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: next level, cut back, always find the right hole, and

802
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: there's a letter's players that can do that as well.

803
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: But like the great ones, then after that is the

804
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: ones that go out and break the tackle. The safety

805
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: doesn't make the tackle. You go and make these explosive plays,

806
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: and you just see that all the time when you're

807
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: watching Ricky was fucking it's insane, Like it's a childhood

808
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: dream to even get to sit and talk about get

809
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: to talk football with you, because, like, I mean, you

810
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: were that big of a deal and you still are

811
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: to this day. You are. I gotta ask you, Ricky.

812
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Was McConaughey big in the Texas circle yet in ninety

813
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: eight or was he not your guy yet? He was

814
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: biggest in ninety eight because he had something to come

815
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: out and be proud of. So before every single game

816
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: we were, say at the hotel, but every time, every

817
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: night after the game, I come home and then there'd

818
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: be like a twenty minute voice mail on my uh

819
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: on my on my answering machine from from from Matthew. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

820
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: What did he used to say? Alright, alright, all right?

821
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: Did he ever liked he? Did he ever say any

822
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: of those all right out out all rights in the

823
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: in the voicemails, like did he just have fool McConaughey,

824
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Like it was like real, it was real speaking from

825
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: the heart of like motivational speeches, and you know, he's

826
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: he's a really intense dude, Like he'll get close to you,

827
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: like this close and looking right in the eye and

828
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: say what he has to say to you. So it was.

829
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: It was a treat, you know, it was. It was

830
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: just a special time in my life of when you

831
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: put so much work into something and you finally start,

832
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: you finally start to see a payoff. There's there's nothing

833
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: like it, dude. He was on all the Sports Illustrated

834
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean I remember, I remember, I Mean, he's a

835
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: huge deal. And there had to be some other who

836
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: else did anyone Did you get close with any other celebrities,

837
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: Texas people, or had to be someone else. I mean,

838
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: we all know McConaughey's big ut guy. Anyone else like

839
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: call you after you broke this record, that's I mean,

840
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: there had to be some people. Ah, there was a

841
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: lot of people. You know. I was hanging out with

842
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: the time, going way back, hanging out out with Dennis Robin.

843
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: He was really big at the time, you know, and

844
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: people knew a classic positive influence on any exactly. I mean,

845
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you we hung out at the super Bowl

846
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: right after my senior year was in. It was in Miami,

847
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: and we went to we went to a party and

848
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, once you come hang out with me,

849
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: and I just remember taking Cholesi Yaeger and that's all

850
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: I remember. Next thing I knew, I woke up in

851
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: this room and I was like, I have no idea

852
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: where I am, and you've been Roman, I was. I

853
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: went up like I opened the door and I went

854
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: up the stairs and I was right on Miami Beach.

855
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: You know, he rented out he rented out Air Clapton's

856
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: apartment and somehow that's where the party ended up. And

857
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I missed it because I passed out but if you

858
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: kept hanging out with him, you would have woken up

859
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: in North Korea. So consider yourself lucky. Actually that might

860
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: have been interesting, But that's awesome. Brodman's the bigger anyone

861
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: else from that time period, not that I can remember.

862
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, I got really close with Dan Lebotard uh

863
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: so before. I mean, he's not like, he's not a

864
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: super famous person, but that was really we love Lebatar here.

865
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: That's probably the most the most meaningful relationship that I

866
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just hanging out with the famous person.

867
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: You know. We were like best friends. And it was

868
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: amazing when I got traded to Miami because he lived

869
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: in Miami, so we got we got really closer and

870
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: were able just to tell some really cool stories. And

871
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: that was that was probably my favorite thing that came

872
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: out of that time. Was is that friendship you also,

873
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you dig play behind some insane lineman. You

874
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: got to give the hogs who that in the ninety

875
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: eight line. You had Ben Adams, Octavius, Bishop Russell GaX

876
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: GaX Camp, Jay Humphrey, Roger Russeller, Leonard Davis. That's the

877
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: law firm right there, and none of them went to

878
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. But that's a great college. Leonard Leonard, Actually

879
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Leonard played in the NFL. He did play in the league. Yeah,

880
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: Leonard played for a minute. You know, when when I

881
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: went on my recruiting trip to Texas, I remember I

882
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: was walking over there showing me the door, and I

883
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: saw these four humongous guys walking towards me. Okay, and

884
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: I said, who are those guys? He said, those are

885
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: the offensive linemen and they're all red shirts. So I

886
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: knew that when I came as a freshman, i'd be

887
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: playing with four of those five guys throughout my career.

888
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: And I think that had a oh well not I

889
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: think I know that was a major part of my

890
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: success of just having this running behind the same guys

891
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: all four years of college. Any crazy like Jesus Shuttleworth

892
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: treatment over at those like frat parties or anything, you

893
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Yeah, honestly, Like, you know,

894
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: my my head coach the first three years, John mcavick,

895
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: he was one of those like by the books kind

896
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: of guy, being I think being from California, I didn't

897
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: have like the wealthy guy from my hometown to like

898
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: take care of me. So I just was out there,

899
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, doing my thing, and there was a lot

900
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: of adoration, but I didn't really get close to too

901
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: many people like that. Now I read you started like

902
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: there's always everyone's pretty public that you smoke weed. Yeah,

903
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's well documented. Uh,

904
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: you didn't start until what your senior year at college?

905
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Senior year at college? Now what made you? Because I'm

906
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: going to open up a little bit and I'll tell

907
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: you what happened. I started smoking weed in like the

908
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: sixth year of my career, and it's because some shit

909
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: was going on. But I want to hear if there

910
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: was something that propelled him. There was shit going on.

911
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: So so so back back to where we started. When

912
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: I came back from my senior year, I had all

913
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: these goals when the Heisman break all these records. Okay,

914
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: So I come back and first game, first two games,

915
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: I kill it. Then we go to Kansas State and

916
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: I get shut down like twelve twelve carries for like

917
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: forty yards. Also find out that my girlfriend is now

918
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Okay, so which quarterback is this? Major?

919
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Apple White? He was our he was our starting white.

920
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm glad you messed up his name at that speech.

921
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you that guy. I'll tell you story

922
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: after you tell me that. Don't actually screw that. I don't,

923
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: but it's a long time ago. But it's just one

924
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: of those things where I was like, how do you

925
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: do that to your teammates? She was she was pretty

926
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: bad anyways, so I don't blame him, so, you know.

927
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: So I was just going through this and I was thinking,

928
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: like why did I come back for this ship? You know,

929
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I was in that place where I was thinking I

930
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: could be making millions of dollars not worried about this bullshit.

931
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: Now I'm back here, I have to deal with the

932
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: quarterback giving me the ball, that's sleeping with my girl,

933
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: and now I'm not going to break all these It

934
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: just was bad. And my roommate was a smoker, and

935
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: he's like, you need to chill, and so he brought

936
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: out he brought out his bong and he's like here

937
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: and so like an anti drug commercial. I mean, I

938
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: had smoked before, but it was just hanging out with

939
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: the guys. I wasn't a smoker, but that was the

940
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: first night where I smoked. And I remember went upstairs

941
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: in my room and I wasn't obsessing about the girl

942
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: or the quarterback or the bad game. I just was

943
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: good and I started actually thinking positively about the future.

944
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not lying to you can look at the

945
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: stat book. After that game, back to back three hundred

946
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: yard Russian games, I just started smoking more weed. I

947
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: feel like it would really up my game. It will.

948
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: It will because I don't react to it like you, Ricky.

949
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: I could drink and it quiets the voices. I smoke weed.

950
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: It's like I had to party in my head and

951
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: only the worst people showed up. It's not good for me,

952
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: you know everybody. That's the process, though. You got to

953
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: get those voices out, because they don't just disappear. If

954
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: they're in there. You got to get them out. And

955
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: sometimes we bury them, and you smoke, you get become

956
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: aware of them so you could do something about them.

957
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: Because to me, you know, especially as a football player,

958
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: I was trying to push all that shit down. When

959
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: I finally like looked at it and let it move,

960
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: then it was gone and I could focus on what

961
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: was really important. Different perspective, and it was the same

962
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: with me. I've never told this story, and I've actually

963
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: never told anyone. Really, I I tooke, you know, but

964
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was going through some shit. I got arrested.

965
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: It was like my second year in the league or

966
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: fourth year league or something like that, and like a

967
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: lot of shit was just going on, and exactly what

968
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: you said, it gave me the ability to slow down

969
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: and and and just kind of look at things differently

970
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: and put the pieces together, and also like relax my

971
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: mind because my mind's always going, like I'm always thinking

972
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get cut, What's gonna happen here? My family

973
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: hates me this, that. And once I started smoking, my

974
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: buddy did the same thing. He's like, yo, oh, bro,

975
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: you need to relax because I didn't smoke. I didn't

976
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: smoke until I was like twenty seven, twenty six, twenty seven,

977
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean I dabbled, but

978
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: like I wasn't like a smoker, you know. And so

979
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: then I did that, and it was exactly the same

980
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: thing that you felt. It gave me a chance to

981
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: just like reflect. You know. It's like the saying that

982
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: mister Kraft told me en Rabalitov. It's Hebrew four, with

983
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: all the bad, find the good in the bad, and

984
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of you feel that, you know what I mean,

985
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: you see that kind of perspective if you do it

986
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: right and you get in a you know, safe environment

987
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, Sam, it may not be that

988
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: for you, but I felt that exact same thing. And

989
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: on Applewood or apple White. I could tell a quick story.

990
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: He invited me to talk to his team. We usually

991
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: used to coach Houston, and we were in there. We

992
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: were playing the super Bowl and we were practiced using

993
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: their facility, and he's like, Yo, Edelman, would you come,

994
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, come, let's go speak to the team. And

995
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: he gives me this huge introduction. Yeah, this guy, that guy,

996
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: And I go, oh, thanks, apple Wood, I appreciate it,

997
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: like I fully botched his name. The whole fucking team

998
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: starts laughing, boss busting out. It's supposed to be like

999
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: an inspirational speech show. I'm clearly not Matthew McConaughey when

1000
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: it comes to speech. Get that's karma coming full circle.

1001
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: That's what he gets for banging Reggie's girl. He gets

1002
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: the botch name and embarrassed in front of his team.

1003
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: That's what I say. Now. But Reggie, I mean, I think,

1004
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: why do I call you Edgie, Holy, you're watching my

1005
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: name too. Hey, it's all that's how karma works. Ricky,

1006
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: Who have you slept with? Who was a close run

1007
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: in the past? No, Ricky, Uh? I mean I think

1008
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: you got really unfairly vilified by the media. You were

1009
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: ahead of your time in a lot of ways, you

1010
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: know when they really kind of played it out like

1011
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: you were a burnout. And I don't think that was

1012
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: fair to to do to you. Well, I don't. I

1013
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: don't look at it that way. I mean, they're just

1014
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: doing their job. They couldn't understand what was going on

1015
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: with me, you know, they're they're the media, like they're

1016
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: covering us. You know. I just see myself as like

1017
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: a real warrior, you know, I wasn't just like fighting

1018
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: on the football field like I'm fighting in life. Real

1019
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: To think you were ahead of your time in that way,

1020
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there were people that were as open

1021
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: as you were about this stuff at the time. Then

1022
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: the nature of being ahead of your time is you're

1023
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: always going to be misunderstood. I mean that that's what

1024
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: it That's what it means. That's that's that's that's a

1025
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: saying right there. I'm a big saying guy like Jack,

1026
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: I want you to cut that up. That could be

1027
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: like a neon sign. Man. Fuck, that's good stuff. It is. Man.

1028
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: Uh I'm thinking about that saying I'm sorry, No, you're good. Good.

1029
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: We try to keep it like conversational here, you know,

1030
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: and sudden this is more of us just laying it,

1031
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: laying it all out. I want to you know, you

1032
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: talked about how we've talked about environment and ecosystem. How

1033
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: badly would you wanted to play in a system like

1034
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: New England. It'd have been like I would have killed

1035
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: it up there, just you know, people from the outside

1036
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: day because all of the especially the cannabis stuff. People

1037
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: I think they misunderstand like my game, but like I'm

1038
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: a killer out there. You know, I'm a competitor, and

1039
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: I just I love playing against the Patriots, and I

1040
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough being a Dolphin, I got to do

1041
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: it twice a year because like you know, you knew

1042
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: you everybody had to get up for that game, and

1043
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: you knew every time you play the Patriots, they're going

1044
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: to be over prepared, over prepared. So it spine. I

1045
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: mean with the saying what they say in football, if

1046
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: you ain't cheating. You ain't trying, so I get it.

1047
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: I think we got Eli to say that Bill's a cheater.

1048
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: I think we did fucking Eli. Great guy, no American hero.

1049
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: Tell us about Heisman your company. I want to hear.

1050
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this. We've been talking about

1051
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: it already, and I just want to say thank you

1052
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: for sharing your story, because that's really what Heisman is about.

1053
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: So many people they hide how they utilize cannabis, and

1054
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: there's so many people out there suffering and that they

1055
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: don't even realize that shit I could get. I could

1056
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: get relief from what I'm dealing with, or I could

1057
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: get perspective, or I could get insight because everyone's lying

1058
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: about using cannabis, and so you know, a big part

1059
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: of the brand is really creating a platform for people

1060
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: to tell their story. You know, it's funny because yeah,

1061
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: we're a cannabis brand. I think of it as a

1062
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: lifestyle brand, but just living a life where you're utilizing

1063
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: cannabis to take yourself to the next level and telling

1064
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: that story, and that's what I'm really passionate about and

1065
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: that's why I started this brand. Well, it's very clear

1066
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: that you're passionate about it, and it's and it's also

1067
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: clear that you know you think outside the box. And

1068
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: the way you broke down your story like I wasn't

1069
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: going and telling my story that I smoke weed, like

1070
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: it made me feel comfortable enough to let to go

1071
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: out and and I like share that with you because

1072
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: you made it feel like it's not bad for me

1073
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, and I guarantee it lot, No,

1074
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: I guarantee it. I mean, I know you're not thinking

1075
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: about it this way, but a lot of people who

1076
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: watch this, you know, are probably going to be more

1077
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: comfortable either trying it, using it, or coming out and

1078
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: talk sharing their experiences with Because when I was going

1079
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 1: through everything I was going through, there was very few

1080
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: people that I could relate to that were going through

1081
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: a similar experience. And so as I went through it all,

1082
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I took it on myself to be that person for

1083
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: other people. And so you know the fact that you

1084
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: felt comfortable enough to be real and share your story

1085
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: like that's amazing. So thank you for that. Well, see

1086
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: for athletes, this is big. For a comedian, no one

1087
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: gives it. No one's like, wow, he really that was

1088
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: really cool? He shared he did drugs. No one cares.

1089
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: But I really think your honesty was so refreshing for

1090
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: the league and I think good for the sport. And

1091
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: it's funny that in some ways you were portrayed as

1092
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: not maybe not a positive role model. I think time

1093
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: has shown that you were. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean time.

1094
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: That's the value of time. You know. I was young.

1095
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure it out, and all I

1096
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: knew is that I just keep swinging, I keep taking

1097
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: a shot. I'm going to figure it out. And I

1098
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: stuck with it. And to the NFL's credit, they gave

1099
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to come back and you know, clear

1100
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: my name and leave the NFL lead my career with dignity.

1101
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: So at the end of the days, it's a wonderful

1102
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: story that I'm still standing to be able to tell it,

1103
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: and you're still working, and that you have a new

1104
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: thing with Heisman, which you know everyone should check out.

1105
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's got to check it out. Man. We appreciate you

1106
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: coming on to games with names presented by win Bet

1107
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: and talking about your story, talking about the game you

1108
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: had to break Tony Dorset's record, which is still insane.

1109
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: Go on win on a last field goal against Texas.

1110
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Aggie's win the Cotton Bowl propel mac Brown's career. Also

1111
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: like getting all the messages from McConaughey. I mean, it's

1112
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: it's it's awesome that you gave us all this inteling

1113
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: and telling us your story. Man, and major major Applewood,

1114
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: fucking Major Applewood. Can't you guys would have win ten

1115
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: games if you didn't do that messed up man chemistry.

1116
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all good, Minor apple Wood. More like,

1117
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: this is the beauty of lifestyle. I don't think I

1118
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: would have been motivated to I go on a tear

1119
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: like that. You know, maybe it's maybe it's exactly what

1120
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: I needed to find cannabis and to be here telling

1121
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: this story. So thank you Major apple White exactly. That's

1122
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: a whit of wood. What the hell? I don't even

1123
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: know his name anymore. He said it so many times.

1124
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm confirs. It's it is what it is, man. I

1125
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on, dude. If you ever need anything

1126
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: for me, give me a call. Bro. Yeah, I'm in

1127
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: La too. We should get up sometime. Where do you live?

1128
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: I live in Manhattan Beach. I live over in like

1129
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: West Hollywood Flats Beverly Hills area perfect well at the

1130
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: link up. I love the South here. I lived in

1131
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: Hermosa for a couple of years. Yeah, I love it

1132
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: down here. It's it's just my kid lives in Laurel Canyon,

1133
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: so it's fucking far. I can take take me two

1134
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: hours to go see my kid and drop her off

1135
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: at school. Like I get it, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1136
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: but well, thank you so much, Ricky. This is great. Yeah,

1137
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: of course you guys have fun, all right. I appreciate you.

1138
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: Let me up. What's the legacy of that game? Just

1139
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: that Ricky Williams is a badass. I think he's not

1140
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: like your traditional badass. He's like the badass that is

1141
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: that that goes around and like does a bunch of

1142
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: mitzvahs and like he just like once, we've had some

1143
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: good fucking guests. We've had some damn good guests. Like

1144
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: just some really good guys like same thing with like Megatron, kind,

1145
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: soft spoken, humble legends And even when we even tried

1146
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: to get him to bag on apple Wood, he couldn't.

1147
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: It's probably for his best mental health wise that he's

1148
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: not still mad about that hookup. I mean, if you're

1149
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: carrying that ship with you. You're probably smoking bad weed.

1150
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: You know, this is this is what this is the

1151
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: chronic I'm not over it. You know, well he must

1152
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: be smoking that chronic that he did get over it,

1153
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: because like he basically told it, like yeah, I don't

1154
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't blame that he did, you know, Yeah, that

1155
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: was a very rock rock and roll at it. Dude.

1156
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: That was like remember George Harrison and Clapton what happened?

1157
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: He Laila, he takes his woman and uh yeah, I

1158
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: don't think that was her real name, but he but

1159
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: that was the song about her takes her and and

1160
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: Harrison's like, yeah, it's rock and roll and that that's

1161
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 1: exactly how Ricky Williams handled it. Rock and roll. We're

1162
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: just said rock and roll. Did we settle the prop? Bet?

1163
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't we get you. You were definitely on dir.

1164
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: I think we said three five. I think I counted two.

1165
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know I counted four. Then we just nearly

1166
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: got over. Oh so we're over. Yeah, Jules had two

1167
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: back to back right there, got it? I was wrong

1168
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: right right right, all right? Then never, damn it, we

1169
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: got it. You got it? So, like, how much is

1170
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: the position the running back. How much has it changed?

1171
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this was the error of the running back.

1172
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you think how rich the sport was. We've

1173
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: talked about it. Edrin James I believe was in his

1174
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: draft right. Uh, we had Marshall, we had Eddie, George,

1175
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams, I remember Priest Holmes for a few of

1176
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: those years. I mean there was some running back. Davis

1177
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: troll Davis, there was some just Sean Alexander bettis bet

1178
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: the bus. I mean, the game change. This is ground

1179
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: and pound. Let's let's ride our Let's ride our guy

1180
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: until he can't ride. Yeah, I mean, and that's clearly

1181
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: what they did in this football game. Forty four carries

1182
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: and and you just saw like how gifted Ricky really

1183
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: was when he said, and it's it's a mental thing.

1184
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: It's not just a physical thing. When other guys are tired.

1185
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: And if I'm even a little tired, I know if

1186
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm tired, I know he's tired. So and I know

1187
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: he can't tackle me if he's tired. Yeah, Like I'm

1188
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: better conditioned than he is, and I'm better than him,

1189
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: so he's not getting me. Like, and that's people probably

1190
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: misunderstand that he's he's a dog. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1191
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: The media really portrayed him as not that, like he's

1192
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: just Oh, this guy that goes and does this and

1193
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: does that, he just smoke n bro. That guy was

1194
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: a great football team or a football player. And it

1195
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: seemed like, like I've heard through the grapevine, he's been

1196
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: a great football team, worked his fucking ass off. You know,

1197
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: he gives a shout out to every single guy on

1198
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: that big ass long record breaking run. You know, Oh,

1199
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: the backside receiver came and made the block. Oh my

1200
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: receiver came in, got the force. My full back goes in,

1201
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: blows up the whole like given his praise to all

1202
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,479
Speaker 1: the guys, like not just being that asshole that says

1203
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: I did this, you know what I mean. That's weed too.

1204
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: It's like it makes you kind of it makes you introspective,

1205
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of coke. If you're a coked out guy, you're

1206
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: not giving credit to that whole that whole team. You're

1207
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: saying that was me, that was me. But no, that's

1208
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: that's the weed talking. We were like, yeah, I'm his own,

1209
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah it's my uh I had I was trying to

1210
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: do a little scarface. I'm the back guy. That's pretty good.

1211
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: Everybody knew so bad guy to sight, that's a fucking

1212
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: bad guy. I'm the bad guy. Class. That's all I got. Class.

1213
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. I mean it took a lot

1214
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: to take down Tony Montana. Not as much Ricky Williams

1215
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: could have withstood those gunshots to the way he ran

1216
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: that dude. No cocaine though, weed Tony Montana. That's one

1217
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: of the old time Like you were dead for a while.

1218
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: What what are we doing? Yeah? But I mean coke

1219
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things, but it's mostly like

1220
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm the ship. It's not like I can withstand your pubs.

1221
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: The world is yours. You did, Manny, dirty dude. I

1222
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: am a political refugee. I came with a cold Reggie.

1223
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: I feel terrible. I got caught. I don't know what

1224
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: where Reggie even came from. That was bad. Look. That

1225
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: was a bad look. I fuck him up, you know,

1226
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: as a coast. I'm trying to pick you up. But

1227
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: that was rough, dude. I heard it twice. That was

1228
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: apple White. That was yeah. Apple White was the guy

1229
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: who was handing the ball off to Reggie. Ricky. Now

1230
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: you got me doing it, handing it off to Ricky

1231
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: Williams the best college. I didn't even know who apple

1232
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: White was when I there. Can you imagine if Brady

1233
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: banged your girlfriend and then you had to see him

1234
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: every day? I think if it was that that way,

1235
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: I think it would probably propel me into getting a

1236
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: better girlfriend. Because it's tom that means we're on the

1237
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: same stratosphere of That's that's my thought process behind it.

1238
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: I I'm just thinking Ricky Williams right now. You know,

1239
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking outside the because this is you know, this

1240
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: is good for it. Yeah, I never know. He seemed

1241
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: like an awesome dude and coolest dressed guy. Who else

1242
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: was cool? Cool dress dudes, cool dress. Randy Moss was

1243
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: a cool dress Randy was like Randy was swaggy early

1244
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: in his day. But the cool thing about Randy is

1245
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: he'd always keep his he'd pregame, he'd always put his

1246
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 1: gloves on his face mask. He'd always and he'd be danged,

1247
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: they'd be dangling from his face mask, and you know,

1248
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: you'd be talking to guys and that was like, So

1249
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: I started putting my shirt on the face mask too,

1250
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: because Randy did. Michael Vick was always swaggy with his

1251
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: own cleats. It was the dope strap cleats. Yeah, insane

1252
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: Jack Lambert, Yeah, I mean that's just old school nitty

1253
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Speaker 1: gritty like eh with the neck roll, beist mode, pist mode.

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Speaker 1: He just had the well he always had crazy tint.

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Speaker 1: Visors Andy had his own stuff. He had his own

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Speaker 1: clothing always remember pist mode. Yeah, and the dreads out

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Speaker 1: the back. It was a cool look. Alvin Kamara, he's

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Speaker 1: he's pretty swaggy. I think he's got like diamond teeth

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: and then he has like a gold mouthpiece that goes

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Speaker 1: over the diamond teeth. And then he always has like

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Speaker 1: cool cleats, like awesomely painted or colored cleats. And the

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Speaker 1: Saints Black and Gold is like, if you do that,

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Speaker 1: you got to save your money because you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be handing over a grill to a pawn shop.

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Speaker 1: That's a rough look. You know, you got to make

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Speaker 1: sure you got money saved if you're doing that. But hey, Jack,

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Speaker 1: did we forget anything. We were pretty good this episode

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Speaker 1: when we were talking Arnold, he and Devido linked back

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Speaker 1: up in ninety four for Junior. Yeah, when I looked off,

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Speaker 1: one of them was pregnant, right, Yeah, yeah, Arnold, Arnold. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We also talked about Running Man release date nineteen eighty seven,

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Speaker 1: Hunger Games Catching Fire release date two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: so running Man way ahead. Texas went on to win

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Speaker 1: the national championship under Mac Brown in two thousand and five. Yeah. Surprisingly, damn.

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Speaker 1: I met him. I met him once. I did a

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Speaker 1: thing with this production company. They're all really cool, he was,

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Speaker 1: he was, alright, he's a legend. His son is a

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Speaker 1: great director too. Up in the air. What else, Juno.

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Speaker 1: He's done a lot of movies. Oh, thank you for smoking.

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Speaker 1: That's a great one. I was going to say Private Parts,

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Speaker 1: but he turned down directing Son of the Beach, another

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern project. I was wrong there, Ivan Rightman recently

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Speaker 1: passed away. Legend right Yeah, Ghostbusters the Regionals, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love those. I speaking of other classic comedies we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: and it was the Hawaiian Tropic Girls on the Bus

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Speaker 1: at the end classic. Also got to give some sewan

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Speaker 1: to Leonard Davis on who was blocking for Ricky all

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Speaker 1: those years. He ended up having an eleven year NFL career,

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Speaker 1: played for the Cardinals, Cowboys, Lions in forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: and then Ricky mentioned that quarterback room when he got

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Speaker 1: to New Orleans. It did, in fact have two guys

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Speaker 1: named Billy Joe, Billy Joe Hobert, Billy Joe Tolliver, Danny

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Speaker 1: Warfel and Jake Delone Jake Time, the hometown guy down

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Speaker 1: there in New Orleans. And then lastly we mentioned, uh,

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Speaker 1: some George Harrison tunes there at the end. That was

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Speaker 1: something in which he wrote about Eric Clapton dating his

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Speaker 1: ex wife. It's rumored to believe or in Clapton. I

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Speaker 1: think Tyler is that correct? And Clapton played on it. Wow,

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Speaker 1: is like you took my wife. You can do it.

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Speaker 1: You can do a little number on my tune. How

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Speaker 1: about that something in the way old Clapton. Let's name

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Speaker 1: the game, all right? Then the game is the run,

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Speaker 1: Rooky run or Rookie breaks the record, something like that.

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Speaker 1: What do you think Ricky smokes the record? Ricky smokes

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Speaker 1: the record. I like it. Gameplay. I mean this is

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Speaker 1: just old school nineties football ground pound mono E mono,

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Speaker 1: big play here, big play there, gameplay. I'd have to

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Speaker 1: say it's like a seven. Yeah, I was gonna say seven.

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Speaker 1: It's seven. Yeah. There's two good football teams could be

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Speaker 1: some recency bias because you know, it's a different generation

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Speaker 1: of game, you know what I mean, these guys ground

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Speaker 1: and pound. What do you think for star powers? Not?

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Speaker 1: We can go too high here, can't. It's just Ricky Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean you got Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell, Dante hall As.

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Speaker 1: We said, I mean, but I think we gotta go

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Speaker 1: like five to five. What do you think is that

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Speaker 1: even high? Yeah, we can go five to five. But

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Speaker 1: it is the best college football player of all time.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, he's he's it's five to five. We've

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Speaker 1: had Pro Bowls. I mean, this is the high stakes.

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Speaker 1: He said, this is the biggest it's the biggest rivalry

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Speaker 1: for Texas. He said, he said it's big. He said

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Speaker 1: it was bigger. Did he quote bigger than Oklahoma. That's

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Speaker 1: what Ricky said. Yeah, I was surprised. Kyler's shaking his

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Speaker 1: head though I likes to go keep it low. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Kyler, he he I forgot he went to

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Speaker 1: Texas and broke the record for rushing and what do

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Speaker 1: you say, steak six? Yeah, steaks are about I'd go seven.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give it seven. This is that's a big rivalry. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you get these Texas fans that are gonna be listening

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Speaker 1: to this, they're gonna sit here and say, these fucking

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Speaker 1: Coast people don't know shit, and we don't, and we

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Speaker 1: admittedly don't, and we're doing our best to brush up

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Speaker 1: on college because it's not either of our strong suits.

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Speaker 1: I would say. But I'm learning, I'm loving. We're learning

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Speaker 1: a lot, as long as we learned from it. The

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Speaker 1: name Ricky smokes the record. I mean, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: best thing on there. Yeah, you gotta go seven at least, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Seven three? Seven point three? What's that? Give us a

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Speaker 1: total of a six point seven total? All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: this was a fun one. Ricky was a great guest.

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Speaker 1: And that's all for this episode of Games with Names,

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Speaker 1: presented by win Bet. Thank you for listening, and thanks

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Speaker 1: to all our sponsors. Make sure to follow us at

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: Games with Names on all socials, write a review. I'm

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01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: Sam Morrel and I'm Julian Edelman and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time, folks. And Ricky Williams cool guy, cool cool guy.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks,