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Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio. When you got involved

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Speaker 1: in this, was there anything surprising in your work in

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Speaker 1: research that you came across. Well, you know, the thing

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Speaker 1: that I think is the most startling and important for people,

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Speaker 1: you know, other than finding that you know, joy comes

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Speaker 1: from following your heart, is that suffering comes from not

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Speaker 1: following it. And but yet there's there's a purpose to

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Speaker 1: the people who don't follow their hearts and do these

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Speaker 1: awful things like the you know, shootings and whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: stealing things and lying to people. There's many different levels

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Speaker 1: of it, but there's a cosmology of the universe that

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Speaker 1: I was taught by an old man back in He

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Speaker 1: was a personal student of Rudolph Steiner, and he told

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Speaker 1: me what Steiner taught him. And I didn't believe it

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Speaker 1: at the time, but eventually I had an experience somebody experience,

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Speaker 1: out of body experience where I I discovered the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And it's that the consciousness that created the universe. There's

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Speaker 1: only one of them. It's one consciousness. We're all part

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Speaker 1: of that. Everything is part of it. But because there's

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Speaker 1: only one, it can't find out what it feels like

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Speaker 1: to meet another. So it's fashioned itself into separate individuals.

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Speaker 1: Were each separate individuals, but we're all part of that

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Speaker 1: one consciousness, and by being separate individuals, we can find

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Speaker 1: out how it feels to meet another. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: only possible because we've become an individual. Well to make

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Speaker 1: us into individuals, the divisive people who perpetrate these crimes

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Speaker 1: we might call it, are actually making us feel separate.

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Speaker 1: And it's their activities that have allowed human beings to

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Speaker 1: find out how it feels to meet another, and and

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Speaker 1: of course, one of those kind of meetings is to

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Speaker 1: find someone that you love, and to be able to

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Speaker 1: love another takes another. You can't have just one. So this,

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Speaker 1: you know, so much has become possible by having an individuals.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at the original people, the tribal

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Speaker 1: people before civilization, what I found out is they're not individuals.

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Speaker 1: I met three anthropologists that were lived with and studied

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Speaker 1: people that had just been discovered, and all three anthropologists said,

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Speaker 1: these people are not individuals. And this is what Rudolf

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Speaker 1: Steiner said. He said, the original people, the way they

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Speaker 1: were originally created, were not individuals. So a special kind

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Speaker 1: of people that is divisive. These are the people with

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Speaker 1: the calcified pineal glands that don't have a conscience and

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Speaker 1: are able to to shoot out towards polarities and you know,

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Speaker 1: and this is what civilization is for. Supposedly, this is

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Speaker 1: coming to an end and a lot of the paranormal

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Speaker 1: activity that you talk about on your show, the you know,

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Speaker 1: aliens and things, they're they're supposed to be a time

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Speaker 1: that Steiner predicts and is predicted by all the spiritual

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Speaker 1: they have the same prophecies. Everybody's got it. The me

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Speaker 1: can hear it. The earth and the divisive people are

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Speaker 1: taken up and returned to the One. So they're the

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Speaker 1: divisive people that are suffering from their their their extreme

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Speaker 1: able to experience meeting their twin soul, and and with

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Speaker 1: But there is well, there is. There is good and evil,

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Speaker 1: trying to be better, better, better. Now on the other side,

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Speaker 1: my book The Magnificent Soul. I talked about how there's

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Speaker 1: a silver lining to evil. And in my case, when

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Speaker 1: certain that that incident caused me to follow my heart,

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Speaker 1: allowed me to learn all of this and share what

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Speaker 1: I'm sharing. So there's other examples. I cut my finger

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Speaker 1: brain do? If most of this goes to the heart, well,

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Speaker 1: the brain, the you know, the the ego mind. See,

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