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His 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.680 new project, Peach Strumentals, comes out Friday, but shout out 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.680 to Pete Rockman. Let's get into it boutle care podcasts. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.480 We've got the legendary, one of the greatest of all time. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.280 Pete Rock Peace Peace, What up bro man? And listen 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:01.560 Pete Right, let me tell you something. When I was 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.200 a kid, when you dropped your album, I think it 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.840 was the Soul brother Brother Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, what 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.560 was it? What was the album? You dropped your solo 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.640 album and it was like ninety eight ninety nine, uh 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.919 A Survivor, Soul Survivor. Yeah, that was the first time. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.520 Like I'm thirty three, so at that time I was 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:26.440 like twelve or some shit. But that was the first time, right, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.359 So I had come up on your ship without even 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.639 knowing about the cl smooth shit, right, So I like 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.800 had to go back and dig in. But I just 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.760 want to give your flowers. Man, You're a legend. Bro. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.440 Welcome podcast. Thank you, boss man. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.399 I love hip hop, brother, I love what I do. Man. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.119 You know it's as simple as that. Man, I met 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.960 you for the first time. I met you backstage at 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.680 Rock the Bells with did you I have a picture 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.919 with you and DJ Premiere Oh Okay, which is one 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.920 of the most legendary photos I've ever taken. To have 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.960 both of you guys together in a photo is a 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.640 big deal, yo, talk about let's let's get in real quick. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.919 Just just you know, you're dropping a new project. Now 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.680 it's all instrumentals, right, yeah, all instrumentals, no samples. I 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.359 got a band now. Shout out to the Soul Brothers, Doro, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:19.639 Jan Nick, Christopher McBride, Mono Neon, Jermaine Holmes, Marcus Machado, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.640 Big Yuki. The list goes on, man, you know, I like, 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:29.000 I'm trying to be one of those great seventies bands, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.799 like like Cooon the Gang and uh right, it's it's 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.800 crazy to hear you say you're putting out an instrumental 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:40.520 album with no samples. Yep, no samples at all. I mean, listen, 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.280 a producer is a producer, man. You gotta be able 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.920 to make music too, like without the sampling, you know 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.880 what I'm saying. And these are all my ideas with 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:54.720 the band just playing them over. Yeah, why why go 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.520 the instrumental route as opposed to I don't know, but 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.720 just your pete rock. You could get verses from whoever 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.120 you want. You've done it before, so like, why just 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.480 do the full instrumental route on this go round? Because 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.960 I want people to really fill the music without no 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.000 noise on it at first, you know what I'm saying, money, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.440 because that's what happened with Donuts With Dyla, it was like, yeah, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.720 I don't even want to hear anybody rapping on donuts. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.240 You just want to press play on it and just 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.000 vibe and just vibe, because you know what music is 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.920 a vibe. It's medicine, it's heal, it's a healer. You 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.000 know what I'm saying. So that's my job first, is 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:31.920 to do that for the people. You know what I mean. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.480 And you know you can bring the rappers in anytime. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.120 I'm ready to do something like that, you know what 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.080 I'm saying. I got a whole bunch of that coming 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.159 out soon with other rappers and with my own team. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.480 Who do you have? Okay, I want to get get 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.280 to a few hours of your career. But out of 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:58.320 the new generation, who who's got your attention? Chris Alda facts? 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.920 You know what I'm saying a lot of other people too, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.240 you know Action Bronson, you know all them type of cats, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.960 Freddie Gibbs, you know what I'm saying. Like people like that, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.200 I'm I'm that's that's that's my wave, That's my wave 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.840 right there? Have you tapped in with the core day kid? 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.880 Not yet? Know you got I feel like you guys, 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.080 would you guys would make some beautiful music together? Man, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:32.719 your phone just just dipped out. You there, you're back, Okay, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.680 you're back. I'm back. My phone died, man, I figured 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.599 that's what happened. Yeah, I'm on my other phone now. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.520 All good man. Look, Pete Rock, we were talking about 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.080 some of the newer artists that you were working with. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.920 You were saying, you love Griselda, Freddy Gibbs, have you 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.680 You and Gibbs haven't worked together yet, not yet, but 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.000 we're talking about it. We've been talking about it. You 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.799 know what I'm saying. Yeah, No, I'm you know, if 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.000 it happens, that would be dope. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:05.520 Right now, I'm more concentrated on because I see cats 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.200 as busy. So I'm doing, you know, my own stuff 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:15.120 with my artists. Amir, who's gonna be really me? Amir? Okay? Yeah? Hey? 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.800 You know what the album I really loved was the 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.360 record you and Smoke did it put out together? Yes, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.040 Don't Smoke Rock. Don't Smoke Rock? Was crazy? And then 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.160 you put the instrumental album out. What would you guys 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:33.160 do a sequel to that? Of course? Has that been 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.080 talked about it all. Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.240 I think I think that in the Smith and Western Shore. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.080 I feel like, like, you know, it's funny because you 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.160 got you've you've been doing these joint projects, and I 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.000 feel like this year and last year we're really kind 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.599 of like the wave of like artists fully tapping in 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.800 with a producer. You know, hit Boy did his thing 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.720 with Benny Fred did his thing with Alchemist. You know, 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.880 Conray did something with Alchemist. Who's somebody who you would 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.760 like to just zone out with and do a whole 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:05.000 album with that you haven't yet? Ghost Face? Ghost Face? 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:12.320 Oh yep, that would be legendary. Well we have you 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:17.360 have you guys spoken about that? Ever? We talked like 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.240 a lot. We talked like a lot all the time, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:25.840 and you know what you have to see, man, ghost 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.160 Face would be insane. Yeah, he's my personal top five. Ever, 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.160 my personal you know what I'm saying. Like yet my 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.560 personal list too. There's two lists, right, there's like your 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.640 personal list and then like the list that you you know, 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.200 the like. So when people be like, what's your top 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.080 five or top ten? Man? I got top twenty, man, 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.240 It's like, what are we talking about? Were we talking 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.000 about like everyone's list or like my favorites, because there's 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.880 like a difference my security list, my most important list 0:07:55.800 --> 0:08:02.280 has Jada kiss on it and ghost Face. That's fair gods, Okay, okay, yeah, 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.400 ghost Face the most consistent, uh, one of the most 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.440 consistent rappers ever discography wise, album for album he could 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.320 go against it's like him and yeah, yep, so do 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.600 And I know, like if we ever work together, it 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:23.160 would be so easy. Is it easy to work with 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:29.520 Pete Rock? Yeah? How fucking yeah, I just the most 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.080 you know what, you know what, you know what, It's 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.360 easy to work with me when you respect me. Okay, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.800 So you got to make sure that the artists understand, see, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.000 because I think that that's an important thing to say, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.040 because if someone's gonna do something with Pete Rock, they 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.560 gotta understand it's a full collaborative process. You're Pete Rock. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.680 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you can't. You can't 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:53.400 be disrespectful to my, to my to the way I do, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.280 you know, to the way I'm great right, Because I 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.520 do feel like like guys like yourself, guys like Primo. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.160 I wish that there was more of records like the 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.840 record you do with Dizza. I wish that there was more. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.680 Like I like, I can't tell you how excited I 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:17.080 was when you did the joy with with with Ye 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.240 and when you had when when you were in that 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.800 pocket where where Ye was doing the Good Friday Records 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.640 and you were working with Kanye. Yeah, I was just 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.800 so excited because I'm like, this is what I want 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.560 to hear Pete Rock and Kanye. Why didn't happen sooner? 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.280 You know what I mean? It would have, but you 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.760 know like I look at it like you could just 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.640 set it down right there. Thank you, Thank you. I 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.960 look at it like, you know, like he's from my 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.160 school and that was bound to happen regardless, you know 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.120 what I'm saying. Talk talk about that era where you 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.280 were tapping in with Ya and and and the Joys. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:54.839 Those are my two favorite Kanye versus probably ever. Thank 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.240 you when he said, uh, the Holy Trinity, a bad 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:04.160 bitch and a bag some hennessy, I see my only enemy. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.439 Let me tell y'all something about Kanye on the lyric 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:13.120 tip Homeboy's nice. He's super nice that I will not 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.000 never take that away from him. And he's very talented, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:22.240 you know, nah, for sure. Man. Was there any record 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.400 you did with you that we didn't hear? Yeah, I 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.360 did a I laid about eight beats, but I think 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.760 he might have went in on more than just one, right, 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.680 but I never heard it, and I doubt if he's 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.360 using anything. But you know what I mean, right right, right, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.959 right right, all right? So so you got the you 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.920 put the band together. We're getting, uh, some some great instrumentals, 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:55.160 some great music, uh from you? The person who haven't 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.760 let's talk about you, and and and and and and 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:03.680 why why haven't we seen a verses with Pete? I 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.719 feel like I feel like you're the obvious guy to 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.640 do one. As far as the producer, I wouldn't mind 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.120 seeing you an alchemist. I mean, I put it out 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.160 there already, man, But nobody's biting, so it's all good. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.960 How how how dope was it for you as a 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.480 fan of the culture to see there is a primo battle. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.559 I liked it. I liked it, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.400 But I just felt that there was a lot of 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.440 things that needed to be rectified with the way it 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.520 was coming over the Instagram. And oh, definitely, yeah, there 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.040 was some that was before they were doing them in 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.400 person and it was a big production. Yeah yeah, you 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.160 get out in and out, and you know, it was 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.880 a lot of it was just a lot of stuff 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.040 that needs to be fixed. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.040 Let me ask you this, Pete. Do you feel like 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:53.440 you're underappreciated as when it comes to hip hop overall? 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:55.800 Do you feel like you get your flowers you deserve? 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.360 I feel like I get my flowers sometimes. You know 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.160 what I'm saying. You know, I really I really don't care, man, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.960 You know what I'm saying, because I love music. Regardless 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.120 of how people were people on the place, I don't 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.160 care about that shit. You know what I'm saying. What 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.320 I care about is what's already up there in the sky. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.560 It's already everything I've done, man, is on top tip. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.439 So I'm not mad at nobody or nothing or Cat's 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.760 not recognizing you know my talent. You know what I'm saying. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.480 But you know, real people know what time it is. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.480 You know what I'm saying. That's real people, Real people 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.080 know what it is. I'm not bothered by none of 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.000 this shit because I have real talent. Yo. What I 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:41.360 appreciate about you is you're extremely unfiltered on Twitter. Yeah, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:48.040 your Twitter is going up, Yeah, because you know, I'm 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.120 just trying to show people that, you know, there's a 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.320 real side to me and that you know, even with 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.679 the disrespect, I really don't care about that. You know 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.439 what I'm saying. I'm saying things for me and for 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.560 people who agree with or disagree in a respectful way, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.400 not in a disrespectful way, because you could disagree, but 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.080 you don't got to be disrespectful. I think that that's 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.160 something that we've lost sight of, right, is that you 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.040 if you know, if you don't see eye to eye 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.240 with someone, I feel like in twenty twenty, is automatically 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:24.720 an enemy or really really contentious conversation. Like you could 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.959 be texting somebody and somebody will take you take it 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.120 totally the wrong way because they can't see a facial 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.720 expression or you know, they assume that you're getting at them, 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:40.000 you know what I'm saying, Even like, even like if 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.600 you have any sort like you know, I don't fuck 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.920 with Donald Trump, right, I don't. Yeah, yeah, right. I 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.320 voted for Joe Biden at the same time I have 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.199 my critiques of Joe Biden too. It's like you did 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.160 I see on your I saw, I saw some things 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.880 you've said. But what's crazy is you can't say those 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.840 things out loud without without people coming at you like 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.040 bro like yeah, Like It's it's almost like you can't 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:13.640 even critique people anymore. I don't care, yo, Yo. Let 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.640 me tell you something. In the beginning, I used to 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.199 be like, oh my god, oh my god, oh he 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.560 just called me this, He just disrespected me. But I 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.680 see what it is, man, I see these low lines. Man, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.040 they just like to comment to get that that that, 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.240 you know, so they could go back and run back 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.040 and tell it for yo. I was arguing with people 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.640 like yo, yah da da da, and then he gets 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.560 some followers behind that. Yeah. It's almost like there's people 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:42.480 who wait around online all day to be offended. It's like, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.000 what are you doing with your life? Were you're just 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.680 sitting on Twitter waiting and waiting to get offended. They 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.040 not doing nothing, you know what I'm saying. So that's 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.560 another thing that's in thought. You know, like all these 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.600 cats ain't nobody. They just home rubbing on their peas 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.240 right right right right right right here. Yeah, I saw, Hey, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.720 give me your honest thoughts. I really enjoyed. I saw 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.800 you tweeting about the Tyson fight. I really enjoyed watching. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.640 First of all, Mike looked nice. Yeah, he looks sharp. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.840 Let me tell you, man, I look back on both 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.640 of them dudes careers, and I look at how they 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.520 used to just dance on people like Roy is the 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.640 best boxer dancer ever, you know, back in his heyday. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:28.480 Of course, even them giving this us, you know, giving 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.400 us this fight. Now it's like it's well appreciated because 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.120 it's great entertainment for the times we're in. Man. We 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.760 need some type of picker upper, you know what I mean. Yeah, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.560 I thought they did a great job. Whoever the Triller 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.200 people are they did? You know, even the Jake, the 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.000 Jake Paul shit, you know that was that was That 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.240 was crazy. That was crazy. And I mean I love 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.440 Nate Robinson, He's a nick you know what I'm saying. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.160 But when you when you pop in that ship and 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.240 you ain't backing that ship up man, and you you 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.840 you really not going back that up, man, that's a 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.640 people disaster. We have a Did you pay attention to 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:10.680 the Grammy nominations? No? So the Best Rap Album category 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:15.480 this year was extremely It was some real hip hop 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:20.640 ship that got nominated. Yeah, something online I know. Freddy 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:24.280 Gibbs got nominated. Freddy Gibbs got nominated, Royce the five 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:31.680 nine got nominated. J J Electronica, uh NAS for King's 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.880 Disease and uh and this kid from LA named d Smoke. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:40.040 I'm wondering. D Smoke is really dope, talented kid from 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.280 Englewood out here in LA. He's uh. He was on 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.040 that show Rhythm and Flow on Netflix, but really fucking 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.840 amazing artists. I'm wondering though, what was your favorite album 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.800 of the year of this year of this year. Oh, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:59.640 it's so good. It's so good, yo. Tell me how 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.800 crazy see the Fhara con speeches on there and how 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.600 it leads into bus of spasm. Man, people are so 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.920 afraid of the truth, bro, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.000 And that's one thing I commend about bust the rhymes, 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.359 like you know, doing this album. You know what I'm saying, 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.359 because it's real times right now, and you you know, 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.880 to say to do something else other than something real, 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.400 you know, ain't the move. You know what I'm saying. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:31.760 So ELI is the best album in twenty twenty. Yo, 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.359 It's crazy too, because it tells you how important it 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.720 is to make timeless music because a lot of this album, 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.720 some of these songs are ten years old, yeah, and 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:48.199 the fact that they still resonate right now, like and 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.200 then so you're a part of the intro talk about 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:57.520 how old that record is. Man, nineteen ninety two, and 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.719 you know it was you know the joint I did 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.960 for Nasen. He brought it back on some next you 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.800 got the I thought it was dope. He gave you 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.560 the feature like it's a feature in Pete Rock Love. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.720 I love Buster Rhymes. We have a really good relationship 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.880 going back since nineteen ninety one. So that's my guy, 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:22.879 you know what I mean? And you know, shit, man, Look, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.480 there was a lot of great music that came out, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.760 you know what I'm saying. But the way some of 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.159 the music that you hear, there's no real structure on 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:37.880 the album. This bust. The album has structure. M it's 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.200 front to back, front to back, and you can tell 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.240 that Buster cares about his audience. You could tell that 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.800 he made this album for them, and you could tell 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.240 that he is a hip hopper in his heart. All 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.359 the way he took he took the time on this album, 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.040 and in an era where no one takes time on 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.920 their projects. Everybody's just rushing and throwing stuff out and 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.760 there's no rush to throw music out. I want you 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.960 to take me back to obviously you're a part of 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.879 my favorite album ever, Illmatic, which is probably if you 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.639 were to, you know, interview one hundred taste makers and 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.080 hip hop, it'd probably get the most first place votes. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.240 You know what I'm saying. I think it's probably undisputedly 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:26.639 that's amount Rushmore album. Yes, when did you first meet Nas? 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:33.320 Nineteen ninety on ninety one when I was hanging around 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:37.040 with Large Professor and the Queens shout out to Large 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.879 Professor now that this was? Was this around the time 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.560 Live at the Barbecued release or was it before that? 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.440 It was it was around that this around that time? 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.680 And and did that before that? And when you're working 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.080 on Illmatic, when you're working on with Nas, are you 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.280 like aware at the moment? Because I feel like so 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.840 much we're we're living in the moment, so sometimes you 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.080 don't realize like the history were a part of or 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.000 or like like, were you like aware at the time? 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.919 Are you conscious of like, Yo, this ship is like 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.159 this is going to change hip hop. Well depending on 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.359 who got the beat, and anytime I'm working with him, 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:20.360 you know, something good is gonna happen. So that's basically 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:24.360 what that was. And when I when he heard the beat, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.719 it triggered something in him and you know, he on 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.280 the spot. He came up with the hook and he 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.760 was like, Yo, I want you to I want you 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.640 to say this hook. I want you to sing this hook. 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.119 You know, did it. I ain't want to do it 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.000 at first, but I did it. I ended up doing it. Yeah, 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.760 it's crazy because I also feel like you don't get 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:42.760 you don't get enough. You don't get props as much 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.600 as you should as a also as a as a 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.200 as an artist, I mean as a producer. You know. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.960 I just feel like as an artist as well, I 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:55.119 feel like you don't get the respect. Maybe I'm not 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.879 supposed to be getting all this respect and stuff from like, 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.720 I don't know, I don't care, bro, you know what 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.359 I'm saying, because you know what people are gonna be 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.600 who they are. It's all good man. You know, you 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.480 got people out here who are clueless on what Pete 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.800 Rock has done. You know how important he is. All 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.400 that you know what I'm saying. And then you got 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.600 people that show love. You got people that's like, yo, 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.440 you are that nigga? Still you know what I'm saying. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.080 And hey, man, you know it is what it is. 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:28.080 You know what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not mad 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.040 at nobody. You know. There's so many dope people that producers, 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.399 rappers that I want to work with. Still, you know 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.280 what I mean? Yeah, I would love to hear the 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.159 Freddy Gibbs for me, would be would be would be 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.000 special and listen, I would put my foot in that 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.360 one and the and a ghost Face A ghost Face 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.880 project would be fucking insane to that that put two 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.240 feet in that. I feel like you've you've definitely probably 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.560 answered who are your favorite producers of all time? I 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.440 want to know who do you think is the most 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.560 slept on? Two or three producers? Ever? Two or three 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.960 producers you mean, like two or three producers that that 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.920 you think deserve to be in more conversations, because I 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:14.919 do think there are a lot that are you know, 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:16.680 I think large professors one of them. I think there's 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:18.239 a lot. But like, who do you got in that 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:22.119 in that? In that list? Black milk, Black milk is 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.879 so cold. Black milk needs more props. You know what 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.440 I'm saying. He's dope. You know what I'm saying. So dope. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.760 And I don't know if people up on vitamin D, 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:36.000 but he dope too. Oh my goodness, he's a He's 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:41.760 one of my new favorite dudes. Yeah right, Yeah, Darrenger's dope. 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.000 The Griselda guy, he's he's great. I think, like, yeah, 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:46.919 d gets it in. You know what I'm saying. But 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.639 I was an Alchemist fan. You know what I'm saying. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:56.239