1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: What's that ad? It's spooky, Hey, Joky, I'm really sure 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, he said, 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I was Nandas. Please Hey boo, it's me Roz and 4 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the freaky, dicky, 6 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: spooky cooky, paranormal Happy New Year. I can't believe it. 7 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: I got to talk to my favorite stand up comedian, 8 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Margaret Chow once again. She was on before and she 9 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: had story after story. I believe that was at the 10 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: beginning of twenty twenty four years ago. Now, oh my god, 11 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: right before all that other stuff happened. Wow, has the 12 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: world changed. But go back and listen if you want 13 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: to hear some of her stories. And then she comes 14 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: on again and I'm like, oh, you know, she probably 15 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: probably ran out of stories. Now she got more. So 16 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: we're going to get into that. First. I'm going to 17 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: look through my email ghosted by Rows at gmail dot com. 18 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh what do we got here? An email from Kayla. 19 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Kayla's got a story about Tonapa, Nevada, a place that 20 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: I was at not that long ago. And boy, can 21 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I tell you that place is spooky, okay. Kayla writes 22 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, my coworker and I were 23 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: staying at a hotel in Tonapa for work. We had 24 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: two rooms on the second floor, near the back of 25 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the building, and this was our first and only time 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: staying at this particular place. I can't explain why, but 27 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: it immediately felt like there was a presence in the room, 28 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: like I was in someone else's space. All week, I 29 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: kept noticing little things misplaced around the room. I thought 30 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I plugged in my phone charger and a few minutes 31 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: later it would be sitting in the middle of the bed, 32 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: or the refrigerator would be unplugged. When I got back 33 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: from work. That plug wouldn't easily fall out of the wall. 34 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: You had to put some force behind it. The bathroom 35 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: was set up so the shower and toilet were in 36 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: a separate room, and the bathroom sink was in an 37 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: alcove right outside the door. When taking a shower, I 38 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: usually put my towel and clothes on the back of 39 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the toilet, but one day, as I was getting out 40 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: of the shower, my clothes and towel weren't there. Instead, 41 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: they were sitting on the sink on the other side 42 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of the door. Did I just forget another morning? I 43 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: heard someone making coffee. If I didn't know better, it 44 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: seemed as though the sounds of bubbling water and coffee 45 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: dripping into the pot were coming from my room. The 46 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: walls are thin, But are they that thin? I thought? 47 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: I brushed it all off, thinking I was just being forgetful, 48 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: or there was some other logical explanation. On the final 49 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: night of ours stay, my coworker and I were in 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: my room watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Suddenly we both 51 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: did a double take towards the back corner of the room. 52 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: Did we see a shadow? We were quiet for a 53 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: moment until he turned to me and asked, how do 54 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: you feel about this place? The look on my face 55 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: set it all strange. Things had been happening to him 56 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: all week, two phones and appliances being unplugged, feelings of 57 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: being watched. He told me he had brought a ballot 58 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: to fill out for one of our local elections, and 59 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: that he sealed and delivered the envelope, only to come 60 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: back to his room and find the ballot itself sitting 61 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: on the table. Did he accidentally mail an empty envelope 62 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: or can we blame a ghost? Fast forward to a 63 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: few months later. I was in town for work again 64 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: and my boyfriend was visiting me. He specifically requested to 65 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: stay at the Haunted Hotel after hearing my story. We 66 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: were in a different corner of the building and nothing 67 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary happened. But during checkout, my boyfriend 68 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: was making small talk with the receptionist and asked if 69 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: there were any reports of hauntings or if anyone had 70 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: died in the hotel. We learned that several years prior, 71 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: there had been a tragic death in the room I 72 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: stayed in. I had not yet mentioned my experience to 73 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: the receptionist or what room I was in the last 74 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: time I stayed. There was definitely a ghost. A ghost 75 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: that also interferes with elections. Now that is something that 76 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: I have never considered that it could. Could it be 77 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: ghosts tampering with ballots? Fascinating stuff. Hey, I got to 78 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: talk to Margaret show and now I want you to 79 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: listen to it. Here's my conversation once again with Margaret 80 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Chow and with the show. I am joined by a 81 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: repeat customer, truly my favorite comedian of all time. The 82 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: most important comedian in history. To me, I am so 83 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: honored to have back the legendary Margaret Chow. 84 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Hi, I'm so honored to be back. Thank you. 85 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Ros Oh are you I'm doing great. I'm really enjoying 86 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: living for the ditch. 87 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: An, what do you think? Tell me you're so good? 88 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: You're so good and all of your people there, you know, 89 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: Juju and Logan and Alex and Ken. I mean that 90 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: you guys are really a wonderful crew because you very 91 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: much all serve different purposes. I love that you're so 92 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: Daphni like, like you're giving very much Daphne. I'm not 93 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: sure who's Velma. Maybe Ken's Velma. 94 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Yes, we've definitely gone over this before with us. Yes, 95 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I think Logan's maybe Scooby. Yeah, yeah, we've got the 96 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: whole crew there. But I'm like, you know, you got 97 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: to turn a look like. 98 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: No, the looks are really anchoring me. But it's also 99 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: really scary some of the people in places that you encounter, 100 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: and you know, it's a serious ghost hunting show. It's 101 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: not just you guys being fabulous, you're actually like doing 102 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: the thing. It's really scary. 103 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, thanks for watching. 104 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: I love it. 105 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: Have you been ghost hunting? 106 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: I have gone on a couple of ghost hunts. My 107 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: friend Pleasant Game and she's one of my best. 108 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Friends mutual mutual friends. 109 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lover, she's a genius. She's a psychic and she's 110 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: a ghost hunter. And we went on a ghost hunt 111 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: for our other best friends, Selene. 112 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: Luna's mutual friend Lover. 113 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Yes, our crew, our little coven. We went on a 114 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: ghost hunt for her bachelor party and it was really 115 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: very interesting because I'd never been in one where we 116 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: actually had all of the little equipment and stuff that 117 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: always scares me, like an EVP, I think is the 118 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: most scary thing. 119 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I have talked to Selene and 120 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Pleasant about this experience because I've gone ghost hunting in 121 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: that basement of Casino del Campo many times, and it's 122 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: believed that there's two ghosts down there. They have never 123 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: been interested in talking to me. Really, these two ghosts, 124 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about me, but they 125 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: don't care about me. But that one in particular, I 126 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: was told Selene told me that the ghosts wanted a margarita. 127 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Is what the EVP said. 128 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, given one margarita they'll pierce the veil, 129 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: give me two margaritas. I think that's great. 130 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Drew Drogi, the actor comedian, was down there doing a 131 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: show with me and said that he heard a little girl. 132 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: They say, there's a little girl down there, and he 133 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: heard a little girl say I want socks. So they 134 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: want socks and margarita's. 135 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: That is an interesting combination. I mean, I think it's 136 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: always much more scary when it's a child ghost. I 137 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: know there's something very sinister. Maybe it's the unrealized potential 138 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: and that maybe a child may also not recognize that 139 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: it's dead. 140 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that if they do or not, 141 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: they are there looking for fun at all times. They're 142 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: looking for wonder excitement. You know, kids don't have boundaries 143 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: the way that an adult might. They might just like 144 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: touch you. They might start laughing and giggling about some shit. 145 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: They might start singing songs out of nowhere. That to 146 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: me like the uninhibited, like just no boundaries, do whatever 147 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: you want. That's too scary for me. 148 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something about that. It's like it's always a 149 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: plot point in a lot of like kind of haunted films. 150 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: And I think it's just also that children are very 151 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: psychic by their nature, and I think when I was 152 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: a little kid too, Like, there's things that I believe 153 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: that I saw as a kid which were legitimate ghost sightings, 154 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: but I think my mind closed off to it a 155 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: little bit later. 156 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: What do you mean, what did you see as a child? 157 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: Well, I saw a couple of things when I was 158 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: a really little kid. And I remember being in my 159 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: family home. I was maybe seven or eight years old, 160 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: and I was in bed, and it was middle of 161 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: the night, and I was looking at the hallway and 162 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: there was a man sitting in the hallway reading a newspaper. 163 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: And he didn't look like he was like from like 164 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: the thirties or something like. He was like a hat 165 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: on and a suit and a just full businessman reading 166 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: a newspaper. Like he was just so weird see through 167 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: see through? Okay, it was like but also not legitimately 168 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: a ghost because it wasn't trying to scare me. He 169 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: was just reading the paper, you know. And I couldn't 170 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: read what the paper read, or I couldn't see when 171 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: he was reading. I didn't see the headline or anything. 172 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Then when he closed the paper, he 173 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: looked up at me and then he disappeared. And so 174 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: that's one thing that I remember when I was really 175 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: like a little kid, and from then on, I insisted 176 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: that my mother leave the hallway light on when we 177 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: were going to bed, like there was just no way 178 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: that I was going to let it be dark. But 179 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: also my mother had a grand belief in ghosts because 180 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: Koreans generally don't think that life ends at death, which 181 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: I think is like everybody, but they're very practical about it, 182 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: like we have. Our Thanksgiving is basically when you make 183 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: offerings to people who have died, almost like an a 184 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: frienda like a table where you have these little offerings 185 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: for the people to remember them, but you would like 186 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: include their favorite foods, but you don't have to prepare 187 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: all the food. You can just make like a styrofoam 188 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: ball and then stick the food on it to make 189 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: it seem like there's a lot because they're not going 190 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: to eat it. They just want you to go through 191 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: the effort. 192 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: They're not going to actually check. Yeah. I get that. Yeah, 193 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: well that's sweet if you put the effort in. I 194 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: get that. Yeah. 195 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: I always want to do one for my friends who 196 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: have died, the people that have read me psychically in 197 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: this house say that all of my spirits around me 198 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: are basically old Korean people, like my Korean ancestors, and 199 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: then drug addicts who are kind of not sure they're 200 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: dead yet they've just died. So I have a lot 201 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: of people in my life who have passed away due 202 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: to the fentanel and so they're all here too, kind 203 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: of crowding for space. 204 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Do you think that they like all can communicate with 205 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: each other, like the older Korean people and like your friends, 206 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and do you think that they're working as a team. 207 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I always wonder that about myself. 208 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what the psychics, the two psychics that I've 209 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: talked to have said is that they're actually trying to 210 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: shout over each other, and that oftentimes the drug addict 211 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: will sort of muscle in where the old Asian people 212 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 2: are like you, like you used to having the space. Well, no, 213 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: we want to tell her this. We she needs to 214 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: know this though, And so it's a funny combination of 215 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: people in the afterlife who are kind of trying to 216 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: talk to me. Just a really sweet collection of people. 217 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I love that. Like I personally, I mean, yes, 218 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: loss is hard and but like I do like to 219 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: feel when somebody passes, like, all right, you get to 220 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: now you get to meet the other people that are 221 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: with me. I guess, yeah, of course. I'm always like 222 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: there are some rules. There's times when you guys you're 223 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: not allowed to watch, like you guys got to turn 224 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: not at all times. But when I you know, when 225 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: the fun stuff come on board, let's do it. Yeah. 226 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: I think that there's like one person that for me 227 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: was really important and she was somebody that I grew 228 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: up with and she was my best friend, and she 229 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: was the person that was prettier than me, funnier than me, 230 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: smarter than me, had a better singing voice than me, 231 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: everything better than me. And bitch, now she's deader than me, 232 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I feel actually very safe with 233 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: death because she's over there. So I kind of feel 234 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: like a sense like, oh, she's very close. And after 235 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: she died, it was kind of like, I guess it's 236 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: not so bad, you know, It's just like she's my sister. 237 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: So that's the one person that if I could actually 238 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: reach her through a ouiji bord or whatever, that's the 239 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: person I would probably talk to and I would know 240 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: if it was her or not, because she's very distinctive. 241 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Right, when do you think about like going to a 242 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: psychic or something you've got all these people, is that 243 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: when they're pushing through to try to like I want 244 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: to talk to the psychic or like, how does that 245 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: usually go for you? I did see when you were 246 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: on Tyler Henry and we talked about that the last 247 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: time you were on, And I mean it did seem 248 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: like there was ancestors and Robin Williams came through. Yeah, 249 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: when you guys were doing that, do you remember was 250 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: there like a lot of other people too, or yeah? 251 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: It was mostly ancestors. Mostly, I think the women and 252 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: my family who finally have a voice for me, because 253 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: a lot of times in Korean culture, women become very 254 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: invisible as they got older, and so I think a 255 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: lot of the women in my family had a lot 256 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: invested in the fact that I was able to break 257 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: out of that, and so they were sort of making 258 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: their presence known. There's a couple of people in that, 259 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: as my grandmother and my aunt both are huge presences. 260 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: Whenever I get a reading, they're always kind of front 261 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: and center. And then now my friend who died, Jerry 262 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: her name's Jerry. She's very much a big part of 263 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: that too, So they're all kind of clashing with each other, 264 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: which is really fun. 265 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to follow up from the last time you 266 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: were on about the house that you live in. You 267 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: were talking about there was like a dog goes possibly 268 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: or maybe two dog goes and a woman goes. Have 269 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: they been around at all? 270 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: Yes, Well, I moved my two beloved dogs ashes into 271 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: a beautiful place of prominence in the room that we're 272 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: in right now, and since I did that, I've definitely 273 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: felt like more of their presence around. I think that, well, 274 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: this house is definitely haunted. When I first moved in 275 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: over twenty three years ago, I saw the dog that 276 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: lived here before, who had died the day the previous 277 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: owners moved out. 278 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah. 279 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: Really old. Her name was Tyler and she was twenty 280 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: one years old, which is really incredible. And she would 281 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: sit outside in this little area by the door, and 282 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: I saw her the day that I moved in. They'd 283 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: moved out, and I was like, Oh, that's so strange 284 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: that she's here. They must still be here. And then 285 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: when I talked to the owners, they said, oh no, no, 286 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: she died and it was so crazy. 287 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's sad, though, where are they? 288 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: I know you didn't want to leave? 289 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: Who's this bitch? She's like, what's going on? 290 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: But also whenever you know these other dogs, my dog's 291 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: many dogs who I've had over time, but the two 292 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: beautiful dogs from my life when they passed on. When 293 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: I walked through the house, I could feel warm spots 294 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: on the hardwood floor where presumably an animal had been sleeping. 295 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: Of course they were not here. Or sometimes I would 296 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: see in the tile like two little condensation marks, like 297 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: nose somebody was breathing there, little dog nose marks, but 298 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: they were not there. So it's beautiful. I love that 299 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: I got to sort of make a little place for 300 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: them here in the house. And you know, I think 301 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: I've come to really appreciate the presences here in house. 302 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: There's a woman goes to who I have not seen 303 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: or not not necessarily felt. Really, but that's another thing. 304 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: The psychics have told me that she's here, which were 305 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: roommates were very comfortable together. 306 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Do you go to psychics a lot? 307 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: I just happened to get the free readings on Sometimes 308 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: I get on like the Long Island Medium and stuff. 309 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: So I've gotten like really great free reading. I have 310 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: not gone, but I've been offered things or people want 311 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: to read, and I'm like so willing. 312 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: So whoaa wait, have you met Teresa Caputo, the Long 313 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: Island Medium? Is that what you're saying? 314 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Yes, we've done a reading and this was right after 315 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: Jerry died and it was really amazing, and so we 316 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: did one. It was over the internet, so we didn't 317 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: actually meet in person. But she's just wonderful, Like she's 318 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: just a really cool psychic and I really enjoyed our reading. 319 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, tell me everything. 320 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: She's just fabulous. She's just like you know, she she 321 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: just gets it, like she's just so very much her 322 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: in her own style of reading. And it's really, I 323 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: don't know, it's so interesting. I just I really admire her. 324 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I admire well, first of all, the nails and the 325 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: hair very much. Yes, but yes, I've talked to several 326 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: people that have been to her and Tyler Henry, and 327 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: they both told me very great things about their accuracy 328 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: and the way that they do it. And I don't know, 329 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: dream guests. One of these days, I'm going to talk 330 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: to Teresa Caputo. 331 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, she would love you, and she's just really warm 332 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 2: and exactly like you think she's going to be, you know, 333 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: and she's got she's like reading from her home, which 334 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: is like absolutely you know that sort of like Long 335 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Island palace. It's very perfect, and I just really I 336 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: really enjoyed my time with her. Anti Lie Tyler is 337 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: really interesting too, because he's so beautiful, like he's such 338 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: a beautiful angelic person, and then he kind of comes 339 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: over and then he just really comes alive with another 340 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: part of his being that's just so remarkable. So I 341 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: really enjoyed that. I've also had a great reading from 342 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: this woman who she was on a psychic thing with Gooper. 343 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: Her name is Laura Lynn Jackson. She was really like wild. 344 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: She was so accurate with every kind of detail and 345 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: things and dates, and that was almost more of like 346 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: a future reading as opposed to what would end up 347 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: being like a ghost sort of or like seeing spirits 348 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: around you, So not really a medium but more like 349 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: a psychic. 350 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: Okay, have you like compared notes or anything or been 351 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: able to see if the things have happened or come 352 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: true yet? 353 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: Well, well, person that I found the most able to 354 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: do that was actually the pet psychic. She had a 355 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: reading where she kind of talks and voices to the 356 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: I have three cats and a dog, and she got 357 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: to settle a lot of arguments between all my pets. 358 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: And then she actually had me move some of the 359 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: beds around to make it more comfortable for these pets, 360 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: and they immediately took to them. So it's really incredible. 361 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: There's one of my cats, she's like, oh, you should 362 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: sing to her, and that was so right on, like 363 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: the prescription to make this cat so happy. So I 364 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: just sing to her all the time. And as soon 365 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: as I start singing, she rubs her face on the ground. 366 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: She's so like, she shows me her belly's so happy. 367 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: It's really cute. 368 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: Haang u. Okay, this needs to be a TV show, 369 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: But like, I want to see this woman doing like 370 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: a doctor Phil style show where you have like someone 371 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: that has multiple animals and she settles the arguments between 372 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: the two of them, yes, and tells us what their 373 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: problems are with each other. I would watch the shit 374 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: out of that. 375 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a cool thing to witness somebody kind 376 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: of speaking to animals in that way in a very 377 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: psychic I just can't believe it. You know, and a 378 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: lot of her work is geared towards talking to animals 379 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: who have passed on. My animals didn't really come through, 380 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: but she was still able to sort of help me 381 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: with the full crew I have. 382 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I'm terrified of doing that. I've considered doing 383 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: that on the show. But again, now I'm really making 384 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: it sound like I'm committing crimes here. But my dog 385 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: has seen some stuff, and I don't want my dog 386 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: outing me on the show and sharing all of our secrets. 387 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: And I don't want my dog calling me out like. 388 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't have that. 389 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: Animals are so psychic. Animals are so spiritual, they see everything. 390 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: How psychic do you think you are like nowadays? Do 391 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: you feel like you have any of that or are 392 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: you an intuition person? 393 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: I think so. I think I'm pretty good. I think 394 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: I have a little bit of what I'm more open 395 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: to and what I feel and what I sense. I 396 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: think if I worked on it, I would be better. 397 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Are you a synchronousity kind of person, like 398 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: do you read into things like that? Yeah? For sure. 399 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: I mean I can't really think of examples, but there's 400 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: definitely things that made me realize my own career path 401 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: was the right one. Like when I was a really 402 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: young kid, I would have very vivid dreams of being 403 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: in a stand up performance, doing stand up shows, and 404 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: they felt exactly like they do right now. Like the 405 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: way that it feels was once I take the stage, 406 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: and when I'm doing well, it's so strange. So when 407 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: I look back to my childhood and I realized, oh, 408 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: this was actually sort of a predestined thing. Yeah, I 409 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: don't know if that's synchronous, but that's more like we 410 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: sort of understand our lives and our purpose in our 411 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 2: lives and are persuaded somehow to take that path. And 412 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: so that's I think very interesting. 413 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: It's a premonition, like you saw it coming because you 414 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: started stand up like how young, like fourteen? 415 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really young. 416 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, And I really I loved it. 417 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: And I always think that live performers have to be 418 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: intuitive and like sense energy, you know, like you can 419 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: tell the vibe of a room, like that's part of 420 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: your job, like read the room. Yeah, to me, that's 421 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: a psychic thing. Do you agree with that? 422 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree. I think that's so much about like 423 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: also doing like crowd work, oh yeah, which I'm not 424 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: the best at. But I think that people who are 425 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: really good at it are really plugging into a psychic channel. 426 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: Some people are so good, I mean, it's improv. I 427 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: took an improv class over Zoom during the pandemic because 428 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta learn how to do this 429 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: damn crowd work stuff. And I don't know, I don't 430 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: know if I got that. 431 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: I think it's psychic. I think it's a little bit 432 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: of a divine channel that people are tuning into when 433 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: they do that, because it's so fast. Yeah, it can't 434 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: possibly be thought. It's faster than thought. Yeah, you know, 435 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: it's actually pretty phenomenal. So it's something that I would 436 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: like to get better at. But I think it really 437 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: is plugging into a channel where you're tuned into what 438 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: people are thinking, what people are watching. And I think 439 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: that to some degree, people like Teresa Caputo or John 440 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Edwards are doing just that. 441 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: They're just doing crowd work. 442 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: They're doing kind of like an elevated crowd work that 443 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: is going one step beyond the idea of just jokes. 444 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Now they're going into like, oh, people's lives and relationships 445 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: and dreams. 446 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: I truly like, and I have talked about this a 447 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: lot in this show, but I really think that psychics 448 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: it's like being a comedian. It's like sense of humor. 449 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: It's like same kind of thing. It's like a sense 450 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: that everyone has. But some people are like, I think 451 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: I can make money doing this, and you have good 452 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: days on the job via bad days, like sometimes they 453 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: bomb a little bit, sometimes they're just like on a 454 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: I think, especially from doing Living for the Debt and 455 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: like working so closely with so many psychics, I was like, Oh, 456 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: this is like the same thing, like as a comedian 457 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: and a psychic. Like we're going into these places and 458 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: like trying to find our thing that we do. Like 459 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the funny, you're trying to find 460 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: the dead people. We're trying to like use our sense 461 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: to navigate this and we'll try different things and we'll 462 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: see what works and what doesn't. And I see a 463 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: lot of similarity. 464 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's what I love about 465 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Living for the Dead is that everybody has their own angle, 466 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: whether it's you know, alex Is going in looking for 467 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: temperature and electricity and kind of these like things that 468 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: she can sense or like an app that she can 469 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: use to like plug in sort of like the meter things. 470 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: It's almost very like scientific and mathematic and that nerd shit. 471 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: It's so that nerdsch it, which I love. That's what 472 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: Pleasant is doing to be a true sort of introduced 473 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: step to me or you know, whether that is like 474 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: Jude seems to read from the nature and the land. 475 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: It's very earthy in that way. And then you know 476 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: you have Ken who's reading from his own trauma, like 477 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: kind of Ken comes in like with his own trauma, 478 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: and Ken runs it from his own trauma, which I 479 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: really appreciate because that's sort of what I do. So 480 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: they've all got their own angle. It's interesting. It becomes 481 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: very Ocean's eleven, you know, which I love. 482 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's fun to compare notes. Like what we're doing 483 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: is talking about stuff that doesn't always have like concrete answers. 484 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: It's the unknown, So like why not try a bunch 485 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: of different things? Yeah, everyone wants like a concrete answer, 486 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: but it's not the kind of thing where you can 487 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: always get those answers. So try everything. See what you 488 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: come down to after all this different data we collect. 489 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I mean, if Harry Houdini couldn't tell us, 490 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: you know, if you know, if all the people who 491 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: have died, one person who could have been able to 492 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: report back, right, nobody ever heard. So we just have 493 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: to really kind of use what we can see or 494 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: what we are able to piece together. It's a wonderful mystery. 495 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: It's a wonderful way to spend a lifetime trying to 496 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: figure it out. 497 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't it would be so boring if we know. 498 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to know all these answers, like actually, 499 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: like you know, I want to It's the mystery of life. 500 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: Come on, it's fun. 501 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 2: It's the mystery, and it's also choose your own adventure too. 502 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of ways to interpret it, 503 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of different ways that we would 504 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: interpret things. So I'm also okay with the end being 505 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: the end as well. Yeah, I think it's all very interesting, 506 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: but I love it. 507 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of Harry Houdini, have you ever been to a seance? 508 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't think so, other than what I was able 509 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: to do with Selene and Pleasant down at Casida, which 510 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: wasn't really a seance. It was more just calling out 511 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: and trying to communicate, but there was nothing ever as 512 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: formal as a proper eighteenth century spiritualist revival seance, which 513 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: I would love to go. I've never been. 514 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh, let's do it you mee soelene pleasant. 515 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: That would be great. 516 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: Let's fully tap in and light a candle and get 517 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: it go in. 518 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be powerful. 519 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about superstitions. Do you 520 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: have any of those? 521 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: I do, but I also kind of reverse some like 522 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: I think black cats are incredibly good luck, and I'm 523 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: always trying to get them to cross my path. I'm 524 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: always trying to get them to engage with me. I 525 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: love the number thirteen. 526 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 527 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: I think for Korean superstitions, just ones like don't shake 528 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: your leg because you'll shake out all your luck, which 529 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: I think it's really about. Don't fidget because then it's 530 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: sort of like destroying your energy somehow, which I think 531 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: is legitimate. 532 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm literally shaking my leg in the second you said 533 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: when I stopped. 534 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: I do like the idea of superstitions, but I don't 535 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: know if I have any solid ones. I've whistled in 536 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: a graveyard I believe, which to me isn't so scary. 537 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: Do you have rituals before you go on stage that 538 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: you like have to do. 539 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: Not really, I think because we perform so much, there's 540 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: no time to really be able to put that in place. 541 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: I wish that there was some kind of rituals to 542 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: sort of get me into a headspace of performance, but 543 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: then again, we do it so much it's sort of 544 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: hard to make space for that. 545 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think of aliens? 546 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: I love aliens. 547 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: They're having a moment. They are in their press era. 548 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: I love it. I mean they're really they're in there 549 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 2: like mummy era. They're like they're showing up in Peru, 550 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: all like fierce and cute and small. 551 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they said, oh, you don't know we could be 552 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: teeny tiny too. 553 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: You didn't realize we could be mummies and be adorable. 554 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: Like they're just so cute and I want to eat them. 555 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: They look like some kind of like sugary candy, and 556 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: I think they're just so cute. I love aliens. I 557 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: love it, like it's so cool, and like the government 558 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: has to tell us, oh, yeah, they're real. Of course 559 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: they're real. 560 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Yes, yes, I completely believe 561 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: that they're real. But I'm just like, this government's never 562 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna tell us. I mean not to be like a 563 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, but I'm like, I need more. I want 564 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: them to just fully be friends with us. I'm ready. 565 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: I think they're so probably very frustrated with us because 566 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: they're watching us destroy the planet exactly. They're watching us 567 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: do dumb shit. You know, they're probably like, well, so 568 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: much more advanced than we are because they had the 569 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: ability to get here. Yes, well we don't really have 570 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: the ability to go there totally. 571 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: You know. 572 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: We have to sort of like be a fascinating to 573 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: them because we're just fucking everything up all the time. 574 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they're at their wits end, and 575 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they come down here and just help 576 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: us get it together. It's like when you're watching someone struggle. Yeah, 577 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: I feel like they're like our supervisor and we're like 578 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: day one on the job and they're like, all right, move, 579 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: I'll do it. Come on. Like, I'm hoping that they 580 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: do that for just everything we have here on planet 581 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: Earth and just like fix all of our problems. That's 582 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: my hope. 583 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: I hope that they're like would be fun to fuck. 584 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: First of all, we know they're into butt play. 585 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, they've long fingers. I would be 586 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: into it. 587 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: I like a long distance relationship. I am so down 588 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: to having a boyfriend that can come and go through 589 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: the planet. 590 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, that would be really cute. So I love 591 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: an alien. I love I want to know more. I 592 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: think they're so fabulous. 593 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about bigfoot and cryptid creatures of that sort? 594 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: Where are you at? 595 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: I love bigfoot. I love a cryptid, even a fake 596 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: one like a Fiji mermaid or yes, you know something, 597 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: when they sew like a frog and a fish together, 598 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: I just think it's so cute. I love anything anything 599 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: different like that. But yeah, cryptid is cute. I love 600 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: a chup of cabra. I find them fascinating. I love 601 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: a werewolf. Uh huh, it's so fabulous. They're not as compelling, 602 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: I guess as a ghost. That to me is a 603 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: little bit more exciting and scary. But a cryptid is 604 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: just so adorable. 605 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Could they be ghosts. 606 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: They could be ghost too. 607 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: They're never caught, nobody can ever get them. 608 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 609 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: So I think we always have this idea that they're 610 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: like animals that have never been discovered or something. But 611 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: I think that they're ghosts. I think there's a. 612 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: Possibility something spiritual about it, which I think that would 613 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: be really cool. But yeah, I think crypto zoology is 614 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: really I think, such an exciting it's an upcoming trend. 615 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: It's on the horizon. It's going to heat up in 616 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. 617 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, Lissa, I think there's way more important 618 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: things that we need to be worried about that. If 619 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: you're a scientist, there's a couple of things that they 620 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: could do. But I like a hooky scientists too, Like 621 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: I like one that wears a silly outfit and they 622 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: go out into the woods looking for mythical creatures. I 623 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: think that's fun too. That's something that I celebrate. 624 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like a seventies style paranormal researcher like that show. 625 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're too young to know in search. 626 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: Of I knew you're gonna say that. Leonard Nimoy. 627 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you watch those, they're really kind of cover 628 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: the gamut of everything from spirit photography to cryptozoology, and 629 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: it's all Leonard Niemoy stuff, which is so cool and seventies. 630 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: So I like that flavor of paranormal research. 631 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: Well, now, William Shatner has one that is called Unexplained 632 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: with a big X in the middle, and I mean 633 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: he basically is just like doing the intro and outro 634 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: to every episode, but they do cover like all the 635 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: different topics, which I like to do because I think 636 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: this stuff is like more connected than we think, Like 637 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: why not? 638 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: I think so too. I think everything that we don't 639 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: know about is really it's just under this surface and 640 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 2: then we should know more about it. And that's why 641 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: investigating it is cool. Also historically, like the way that 642 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: society really colored the way that we looked at this 643 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: kind of stuff, which is why I love that Victorian 644 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: spirit spiritualism movement so much, because it was the one 645 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: place where they could get real freaky because it was 646 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: such a repressive society. Yeah, so here's one place where 647 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: it was fashionable to get weird. And that's why say 648 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: inteles were so popular and all the scams that were 649 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: being run at the time. But I love that stuff. 650 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: Because, hey, let's talk about something that we know is 651 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: one hundred percent real. eBay haunted dolls. 652 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so scared. Okay, did I tell you about 653 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: the one Eba haunted object that I did have that 654 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: I had to get rid of immediately. Margaret Chow, I 655 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: bought a dredging hook as a Victorian dredging hook. 656 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 657 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: It was like a hook that was used to find 658 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: bodies in bodies of water during the Victorian era. It 659 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: was eleven dollars and I ordered it on eBay. I 660 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: won it and it came the next day. And it 661 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: wasn't in a package. It was in a paper bag 662 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: wrapped with my address, just put on my doorstep, and 663 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: I brought it into the house and the whole house 664 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: felt like it was cold. And I put the hook 665 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 2: on the mantelpiece. At that time, we had a lot 666 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 2: of medical antiques. I was married then, and we had 667 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: a lot of weird like old syringes and old medicine bottles, 668 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: and so I put it there. And then every time 669 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: my husband and I my ex husband now, but when 670 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: we were in the room together, we would just start 671 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: arguing about the most petty stuff, and the room would 672 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 2: get colder and colder. And at night I would lay 673 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: in bed and I would think about the hook, and 674 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: I would feel something cold in the bed, like the 675 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 2: hook was in the bed. It wasn't, but it was 676 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: very strange and Finally, I just told my husband, you 677 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: better get rid of that hook. So he gave it 678 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: to his friend who had as door selling all this 679 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 2: sort of like medical antiques. And as soon as he 680 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 2: gave it to my friend his friend, his friend broke 681 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: his leg and his store went out of business. 682 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 683 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 2: And then so he passed the hook on to somebody else. 684 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: We don't know what happened to the hook, but man, 685 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: that thing was like it was real, real crazy how 686 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: it just took over the energy of the house that 687 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: made the house. It was good for summer because you know, 688 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: the air conditioning here is not that great, so it 689 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: was good because it made everything cold. 690 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah for free. I have to worry about 691 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: paying for that. 692 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: There's some weird stuff happening on eBay. Oh, people getting 693 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: rid of these objects. 694 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: Now, personally, I do think that there can be some 695 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: legit stuff like that. Now, they weren't advertising it as 696 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: a haunted right, No, that makes it more legit to me. 697 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a medical antique. 698 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: These people, there's a whole community of haunted sellers, and 699 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems a little too coincidental sometimes 700 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: that they have so many haunted dolls. Also, the dolls 701 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: come with their own biographies when they're selling these dolls. 702 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: So let's jump into a segment that I like to 703 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: call the dolls are Living. Okay, jeeha, can you throw 704 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: up this doll for us? Oh my god, here she is. 705 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: That's terrifying. 706 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: Now, this doll does not have a name. Usually they do. 707 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 708 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: She's one of the scarier ones I've seen. And the 709 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: best part is she knows her lighting, which is very important. Right, 710 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: it's all about trying to make a sale. Here she's 711 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: lit from beneath, so there's lots of shadows on her face, 712 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: which is a great choice on her part. Yeah, her 713 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: hair is a little frazzled. I don't know. I would 714 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: guess she's probably like sixties or. 715 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: It looks like it looks like Philis Diller. 716 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: Yes, it kind of does look at Philis Diller. Like 717 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: to me, it looks like every mom in the nineties 718 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: on Christmas morning, like exhausted, like kind of in a 719 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: nineties stressed Yes. Right, Well, okay, here's this doll's biography. 720 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: It's actually a he oh, the spirit that's inside of 721 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: this doll. Okay, it is currently going for seventy nine dollars, 722 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: and it says he will not give his name. However, 723 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 1: he has let me know that he is a man 724 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: of an unknown age. He is very angry, he is mad, 725 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: he is evil. He cusses in a muffled voice. He 726 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: will make the doll vessel buzz. At night while you sleep, 727 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: you can sometimes feel he is in the room with you, 728 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: and then you smell an awful fart smell. That's what 729 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: it says. Sometimes you will hear flies, but you cannot 730 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: see them. He has entered my dreams. I always am 731 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: asking him in the dreams, what is your name? What 732 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: is your story? But he won't tell me. I have 733 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: heard loud, heavy footsteps at night on my roof. I 734 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: had my son check the attic to make sure that 735 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: no one was up there. I was afraid someone broke 736 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: in and was waiting for us to go to sleep. 737 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: My son came down and said windows were locked and 738 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,959 Speaker 1: shut and he did not see anyone. My dog will 739 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: not go near him. He's twenty one inches tall. He 740 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: is striking, blue eyes, crazy blonde hair. He is most 741 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: active at night. So far, no harm, just fear is felt. 742 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: After the footsteps on the roof, I have kept him 743 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: in storage. Okay, blah blah blah blah blah. So not 744 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: okay with kids? Ok not okay with pets it keeps 745 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: going on. But either way, seventy nine dollars. Wow, Margaret, 746 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: you interested? Would you like a gift? You know, a 747 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: host to sign you know what? 748 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: No? 749 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 2: But thank you? Okay, I don't want to find out. 750 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: It's scary. Even if it wasn't true. The fact that 751 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: this person has like put together this mythology is terrifying 752 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: in and of itself, you know, so I just think 753 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: respectfully declined. Please, Yeah, no, I don't blame you. 754 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: Okay, Well that concludes that. Let's do one more thing here. 755 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices? 756 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 2: Yes? Please? 757 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for EVP or ev please. So you 758 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: already know what a EVP is, Electronic voice phenomenal. What 759 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: I do is I go to the Internet and I 760 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: find people's EVPs electronic voice phenoma. They believe they have 761 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: captured a ghost speaking. I'm going to play you two 762 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: of them, okay, and I want you to tell me 763 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: what you hear, any guesses you got, and then I'll 764 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: give you an ABCD option of what the ghost hunter 765 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: believes the ghost is saying, Okay, here's the first one. 766 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: This one is from Pasadena Paranormal. I don't know the location. 767 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying? Did you hear anything? 768 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: I just heard like footsteps. 769 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely some footsteps. Wait, let's hear it again. 770 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: So there's like a whisper among the footsteps. I don't know. 771 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about this one. 772 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: Oh he's like, go, sort of breathing. I guess right. 773 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: It's a very breathy voice. Okay, I'll give you some options. 774 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: Maybe this will help. Yes, is it A not great? 775 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: Is it B target? Is it C Chocolate? Or D Margaret? 776 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: Play it again? 777 00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I can't. Well, they believe it's D Margaret. I mean, 778 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: woo hello. That's actually how I found that. I said, 779 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: is there anyone that says Margaret? And there was actually 780 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: multiple and that was the best one I found. 781 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's great. I mean there would be a lot 782 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: saying Margaret because it's such an old name. It's such 783 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 2: an old lady name. 784 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: So they were trying to figure out what the ghost 785 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: name was and it said Margaret. 786 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 787 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: Okay, this next one's better. This one comes from supernatural 788 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: unit on YouTube. And this is at the Sonoma Mountain 789 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: Cemetery in Sonoma, California. What is this one saying that 790 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: fully sounds like a human. 791 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: It's somebody whining about He's like totally. It's like hello, no, no. 792 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: That's a full sentence. Yeah, let me play it again. 793 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: Any guesses something about no more? 794 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? No more? Well, here's some options. Is it A 795 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: I got a case of the Patty lapones. That's like 796 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: when you yell at an audience all the time, which I love. 797 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: By the way, Uh, is it B? Why don't you 798 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: guys start moving along? Is it C? I'm moving my 799 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: kids to another lawn or d? All these gays keep 800 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: smoking my bong? Here we go. 801 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: Oh, why don't you kids start moving along? 802 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: Yes, they believe it is B. Why don't you guys 803 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: start moving along? Yeah, get out of here. 804 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: She's saying she doesn't want to be she doesn't want 805 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: to be disturbed. 806 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: Good for her, I get it. Speak up, Margaret. That's like, 807 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: that's it this time. 808 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 2: Wonderful. Well, I love this and I will continue to 809 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 2: watch the show. I love it. 810 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 811 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: I would love to join you in your ghost adventures 812 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: at some times. So anytime you need an extra, an 813 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: extra researcher, I'm there for you. 814 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Margaret, this is like so iconic you You 815 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: are like the best to me, like truly, I'm so 816 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: grateful that you take the time to talk to me. 817 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: This is so cool. 818 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 2: Thank you. 819 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: Can you tell people where to find you your touring, 820 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm touring. 821 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: People can find me on Margaret Show dot com. I'm 822 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 2: on the Instagram at Margaret Underscore Show, I'm on TikTok 823 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 2: at the Margaret Show, and I'm on X at Margaret. 824 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: Show, gard Jazz. 825 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 826 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Margaret Show. Go back and 827 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: listen to the first time she was on at the 828 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: beginning of twenty twenty. Oh, I love you all, both 829 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to 830 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me. Came on. This has been 831 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience 832 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: on the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes 833 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll even call you. So email me at ghosted by 834 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a DM 835 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: or voice message to the show's instagram at ghosted by Roz. 836 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Give us a follow while you're there and follow me 837 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and on TikTok and 838 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: Twitter at it's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the 839 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. 840 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie 841 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. 842 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. 843 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. 844 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying 845 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the 846 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: Spooky Georgia hard Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer.