Speaker 1: All from Andrew.
Speaker 2: Hello, Yo, Andrew.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 2: Andrew? How can I get you today?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 1: Just crazy to talk to you, man, it's your real pleasure. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I really envy you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a Monday night and you're uh
Speaker 1: and you're geked.
Speaker 3: Up all the way.
Speaker 2: Man, have we spoken before, Andrew?
Speaker 1: No, this is a first time college. I've been listening
Speaker 1: for a long time.
Speaker 2: Cool Man. Thanks. It's uh, it's cool that people at
Speaker 2: COOL I'm getting to talk to new people after all
Speaker 2: this time. Why do you envy?
Speaker 1: Means because you just, uh, you seem relaxed. You know,
Speaker 1: you seem like really like you're enjoying your life at
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to I I thank you very
Speaker 2: much for giving me this opportunity because I need you
Speaker 2: to know. And I hope you know you know I
Speaker 2: I I compare myself to other people all the time.
Speaker 2: Everyone does, everyone, you know. It's it's a natural habit
Speaker 2: to compare yourself to other people. And I don't want
Speaker 2: to be positioning myself on this show as if I'm
Speaker 2: not going insane all the time, because I am.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff happens behind the curtains.
Speaker 2: You know, right right, I'm going insane all the time.
Speaker 2: So I don't I guess it. The idea that you
Speaker 2: would envy me they either you would look at me
Speaker 2: and go man. I wish I could have it all
Speaker 2: figured out like that guy bothers me because I don't
Speaker 2: want you to be and be in some envious state
Speaker 2: of something that doesn't even exist and using that to
Speaker 2: feel bad about yourself.
Speaker 1: I think you're yourself, bro, but I guess you I gets.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not down playing myself, but I'm
Speaker 2: I'm I'm stressed out a lot. I feel good right
Speaker 2: now because talking to you and I'm actively engaging in
Speaker 2: an activity that that is engaging and not you know,
Speaker 2: the idle hands are are tend to be what makes
Speaker 2: me anxious and depressed. But I don't know I would.
Speaker 2: I just hope I'm not giving off a fake idea
Speaker 2: of myself because I you know, I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: No, you're good, Okay, But what I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about tonight, I'm gonna get straight to the punchline. My
Speaker 1: my cousin he uh married my ex and he might
Speaker 1: be raising my child.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's so much more interesting than my own
Speaker 2: neurotic bullshit. I'm very glad that you cut me off
Speaker 2: to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll just start from the beginning. So I
Speaker 1: met her when I was like, man, she was like
Speaker 1: my first girlfriend, like first first anything. I met her
Speaker 1: when I was twelve. We got together when I was twelve.
Speaker 1: Actually at the time, I wasn't really thinking about you know,
Speaker 1: like females and stuff like that. So when I had gotten together, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she like really kind of showed me the ropes. Basically,
Speaker 1: we were together for a while, like about a year
Speaker 1: or two, you know, relationship got played out or whatever.
Speaker 1: Eventually we had ended up breaking up and she ended
Speaker 1: up wucking with some of my homies, messing around with
Speaker 1: some of my homies. I really didn't care because we
Speaker 1: had already broken up, you know, you know how that
Speaker 1: goes females to do whatever. Yeah, after that, I really
Speaker 1: didn't talk to her for a while for about a
Speaker 1: year or two. After that, she had hit me up
Speaker 1: out of the blue, and I didn't I didn't think
Speaker 1: much of it, you know, I started talking to her whatever.
Speaker 1: At the time I was I was maybe like fifteen
Speaker 1: at the time, so I really didn't think much of it.
Speaker 1: It was just like a friendly kind of conversation. She
Speaker 1: had kind of like told me she was with a
Speaker 1: new guy and stuff like that and showed me like
Speaker 1: pictures and stuff like that. But you know, I was
Speaker 1: her like her ex, so I was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: fuck whatever, whatever, like he ain't nothing, Like he's nothing,
Speaker 1: I'm better whatever. You know how that goes with exes
Speaker 1: and how to be Yeah, is that a lot? Slow
Speaker 1: it down?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I understand right now is that you
Speaker 2: are how old are you right now?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 2: I'm eighteen, okay, and so this as far as I'm young.
Speaker 4: But what I.
Speaker 2: Understand right now is that you had a girlfriend since
Speaker 2: you were twelve. You did her for about three years,
Speaker 2: and then you broke up when you were fifteen.
Speaker 1: Uh we broke uh not about fifteen. I was about
Speaker 1: maybe thirty. It's fourteen, yeah, all right around there.
Speaker 2: And she breaks up with you, and then she hits
Speaker 2: you back up and shows you that there's a new guy,
Speaker 2: and she's like showing good pictures of her new boyfriends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just like whatever, talking shit, shooting the shit,
Speaker 1: not really like too personal, but whatever I had hit
Speaker 1: her with the you know, come over whatever, spress some time.
Speaker 1: You know, I was young, so I really didn't. I
Speaker 1: really didn't care about what was going on in her
Speaker 1: life or anything like that. But yeah, she ended up
Speaker 1: staying the night, you know, monkeys jump in the bed,
Speaker 1: stuff happened after we really didn't. We really didn't talk
Speaker 1: after that.
Speaker 3: Fast forward.
Speaker 1: Like I I honestly, I don't know the timing.
Speaker 3: I wish I did.
Speaker 1: I wish I'd paid attention more because I just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't pay attention. I would say about
Speaker 1: a year later, I had some family on my mother's
Speaker 1: side that I didn't really know. They threw a party
Speaker 1: and invited us, right, yep, you have to speak right, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: So I pull up to the party.
Speaker 1: I don't know nobody except for like the one family member,
Speaker 1: like the one my cousin I pull up with. I
Speaker 1: see her in the family crowd, and I was like,
Speaker 1: the first thing that came to my mind. I was like, God,
Speaker 1: please do not let her be my cousin. I was like,
Speaker 1: that would be the most horrible thing in the world.
Speaker 1: She was my cousin.
Speaker 3: Terrible.
Speaker 1: That was racing through my mind for a minute. I
Speaker 1: didn't really want to say anything or go up to
Speaker 1: her because I didn't want to bring it up to anyone,
Speaker 1: let anyone know. Yeah, I coudnt to find out she
Speaker 1: was with my cousin, so she she wasn't my cousin, thankfully, thankfully.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: But I found out that they were together and that
Speaker 1: they had a baby together. I was like, damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: And the baby they had him with her, and the
Speaker 1: baby was like two months old. I would say it
Speaker 1: was like a little, tiny, little alien thing. Still, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. I really didn't talk to her or him,
Speaker 1: had to that lit'll get together. It was more like
Speaker 1: a wow factor to me. I really didn't want to.
Speaker 3: Bring up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they got after that go ahead, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: sound like you're about.
Speaker 2: To and these you think this baby might be yours?
Speaker 3: Well I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure because you know, he's my cousin and
Speaker 1: we're like, we're kind of closely related to each other.
Speaker 2: Can I ask Can I ask you an unsavory question? Yeah,
Speaker 2: when the as you say, monkeys were jumping in the bed.
Speaker 2: By the way, you know what's funny is you have
Speaker 2: you're like you have this like cool guy way that
Speaker 2: you talk, and then you kind of ruined it by
Speaker 2: saying monkeys jumping in the bed, So you should eliminate
Speaker 2: that from your vocabulary to achieve the ultimate cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't want to know how to explicit.
Speaker 1: You wanted me to get in that.
Speaker 2: It's all right, it's all right when you did that.
Speaker 2: Did you come in this woman's vagina?
Speaker 1: I don't believe so, because you know, pull out getting strong.
Speaker 1: So I don't believe though, But I know for a
Speaker 1: fact I did not use protection, but I know I
Speaker 1: pulled out.
Speaker 2: Did you have Okay, so you didn't use protection, but
Speaker 2: you pulled out. Yeah, so you have you have no
Speaker 2: You you saying that you think you might have had.
Speaker 2: You saying that you think this baby between your ex
Speaker 2: and your cousin is yours is based off of sort
Speaker 2: of nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, the timing kind of lines up to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is kind of sort of nothing. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it ain't my kid.
Speaker 1: She is my ex and she's kind of married to
Speaker 1: my cousin. They got papers and everything, and they're having
Speaker 1: a second child on the way. So in that kind
Speaker 1: of factor is kind of a wild factor of the
Speaker 1: story as well. But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Are you together?
Speaker 2: Are you upset about this? Are you do you still
Speaker 2: like your ex?
Speaker 1: Not upset, more of surprising, like a wow factor. I
Speaker 1: couldn't care less about them, or like maybe I don't
Speaker 1: care about my ex. She's kind of poor. She's to
Speaker 1: this day, she tries to she still tries to talk
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Are you close with you? Are you close with your
Speaker 2: Are you close with your cousin?
Speaker 1: No, not at all. I talked to him. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I talked to him one time at another occasion, at
Speaker 1: another party, and the first thing he told me was
Speaker 1: he came up to me and he was like, because
Speaker 1: he's where I'm Hispanic, so uh, they were like come
Speaker 1: from like a real poor kind of neighborhood. So the
Speaker 1: way he talks is kind of funny. He was like,
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I know you used to fuck with
Speaker 1: my bitch a. I was like, first thing, I was like,
Speaker 1: hold on.
Speaker 2: I see this guy. See you're trying to talk just
Speaker 2: before you continue, you're trying to talk cool right now,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like your cousin talks a little bit
Speaker 2: cooler than you.
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I mean he's he's he's he's something.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead say say say what your cousin said.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, He's like, you know, you used to fuck
Speaker 1: with my bitch. I was like, all right, First of all,
Speaker 1: I don't care about her. We did used to date.
Speaker 1: I was like, but that's that's your that's your baby mama,
Speaker 1: that's that's all you. I don't care. He was like,
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I don't care about none of that either. Uh,
Speaker 1: He's like, blood over bitches.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, Wow, every everybody in this
Speaker 2: story has made horrible decisions as to who to hitch
Speaker 2: their life to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like to associate myself with that side of
Speaker 1: the family.
Speaker 2: But yeah, wait, so your cousin, Your cousin came to
Speaker 2: you and he was and he said to you, he
Speaker 2: said blood over bitches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in front of her too. Was the crazy?
Speaker 2: Wait he said it in front of her?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she like didn't bad an eye or anything to it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that was That was kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all drunk, but I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what was going on there.
Speaker 2: Goddamn crazy. Do you think that this woman Do you
Speaker 2: think this woman fantasizes about a threesome between you and
Speaker 2: your cousin.
Speaker 1: Oh guarantee, because I'm saying me and him look just
Speaker 1: so like kind of weird.
Speaker 3: She has the type that baby I seen.
Speaker 1: I seen that baby recently, like two weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: it looks like me when I was younger. That's why
Speaker 1: I kind of been going with this story.
Speaker 2: Well, cousin, Okay, here's the thing, the story, the story
Speaker 2: of I think the baby between Okay, look, I guess
Speaker 2: if you want to you know, sure, it's a little
Speaker 2: it's a little wild that your exes is married to
Speaker 2: your cousin right now. But the basis that in this situation,
Speaker 2: the child looking a little bit like you isn't an
Speaker 2: indicator that it might be yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about doing a paternity test?
Speaker 4: Fuck?
Speaker 1: No, no, I ain't getting No, I'm not touching that
Speaker 1: thing with a ten foot hole.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to get involved with their life. They got
Speaker 1: a horrible life, man. Oh they're like abusive and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, their relationship is horrible.
Speaker 2: Well, what's your what's your what's your whole deal?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: What's your life? Like? You're eighteen, you have what what
Speaker 2: do you what's your thing?
Speaker 1: I moved out of my UHL. I lived in New
Speaker 1: Mexico up until recently, up until about January, I moved
Speaker 1: out to Wisconsin. Actually I moved out here with my brother.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you guys do?
Speaker 1: Uh, he's a tuch driver. I just kind of I'm
Speaker 1: working at Planet Fitness. I'm a manager at Planet Fitness.
Speaker 1: Do you have a good relationship with your brother, Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: were real close. I really, uh yeah, he's really the
Speaker 1: only family the member I talked to. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I grew up in like a really rough area.
Speaker 3: Mh.
Speaker 1: My brother got out before me. He moved out here
Speaker 1: like four or five years ago, and he had been
Speaker 1: telling me, like, I got my own place, I'll move
Speaker 1: you out here, stuff like that. So I really I
Speaker 1: really didn't think about it until finally I had talked
Speaker 1: to like a couple of homies and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and they were like, if I had the opportunity just
Speaker 1: to restart a whole new life, I would take it.
Speaker 1: And that really made me think about it. I finally
Speaker 1: took it. Now started my life.
Speaker 2: What's are you cool with with your parents at all?
Speaker 2: Or do they suck?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I my father lives out here, but he's
Speaker 1: an absolute dirt bag. I my mother, she Tai, she's
Speaker 1: a drug addict in the streets. I really don't talk
Speaker 1: to her at all.
Speaker 3: M m h.
Speaker 1: I was raised by my grandparents.
Speaker 3: I talked to them.
Speaker 1: I got a good relationship with him.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: My grandfather lives in Mexico. He's uh, he lives in Chiuaala, Mexico.
Speaker 3: I talked to him.
Speaker 1: I go out there sometimes.
Speaker 3: That's pretty lit.
Speaker 2: And so you have started a new life with your
Speaker 2: brother in Wisconsin, and do you have your own place
Speaker 2: now you're living I'm sorry if you already said this
Speaker 2: before and iz owned out. But where in Wisconsin are you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Are you in Milwaukee?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Milwaukee. I'm lived with my brother. It's me
Speaker 1: and him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Cool. Cool, cool cool. Are you feeling optimistic about about life?
Speaker 2: It sounds like you had a pretty rough start.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not sure. Whenever I moved out here, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm eighteen, So I dropped out of high school.
Speaker 1: COVID kind of really fucked it up, and COVID hit
Speaker 1: I was in eighth grade middle school, which is crazy
Speaker 1: to think it's a long long time from now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really fucked me up, kind of set me back
Speaker 1: a couple of grades with the online. I never really
Speaker 1: did that stuff like that. So I dropped out, moved
Speaker 1: out here. I definitely want to get my deed, but
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. Yeah, I've been recently. I've been
Speaker 1: into like a really kind of tough mind space just
Speaker 1: because moving to you know, like a whole new space.
Speaker 1: My family really don't talk to me no more. I
Speaker 1: really don't got nobody to talk to. I worked third shift,
Speaker 1: so pretty lonely. Yea in the podcast, No, I don't
Speaker 1: know nobody. I don't really talk to nobody.
Speaker 2: I am a little I'm a little bit afraid to
Speaker 2: ask this question because I what podcasts do you listen to?
Speaker 1: There's a handful of podcasts, man, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the most the greatest I like to watch
Speaker 1: is yours truly who I'm on the phone with, so
Speaker 1: I have the pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thanks brother, Thanks man.
Speaker 3: I really like uh.
Speaker 1: I've been back watching a lot of THEO Bonds podcasts.
Speaker 1: That's a really nice one. I've seen him in the
Speaker 1: theater recently. It's amazing. Joe Rogan uh a couple of
Speaker 1: conspiracy podcasts here and there. I've been liking Jack sept
Speaker 1: the Guy's podcast recently. Yeah, it was to Tart top
Speaker 1: charts for about like a month or so.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I stayed watching that when it comes out.
Speaker 2: So okay, So you you're you're kind of you feel
Speaker 2: a little bit like lonely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lonely.
Speaker 1: I tried tender. I'm not sure if it's my profile
Speaker 1: or if I don't. I really don't get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hitting as a difficult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, working third shift is kind of tough to even
Speaker 1: talk to like friends or anything like that too, So
Speaker 1: kind of kind of odd.
Speaker 2: And what about your brother? Does he have friends? Does
Speaker 2: he have like a gang?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 1: He just really he just really him and his girlfriend. Really,
Speaker 1: he's a truck driver. We really don't be doing anything
Speaker 1: like that either.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been playing a lot of video games lately.
Speaker 2: Well games to.
Speaker 1: UHS five mostly it gets kind of boring though after
Speaker 1: a while. I guess repetitive, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, so I guess you're you're you said you want
Speaker 2: to get your g ed. That's one of your big goals.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I'm kind of mean too,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I want to for sure. Yeah, like I said, really,
Speaker 1: I'm just been in a kind of rough that space,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, like you said, kind of loneliness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it sounds like it sounds like you have
Speaker 2: been through a lot as you've grown up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was when I was younger, I grew
Speaker 1: up on a farm with like no water and no
Speaker 1: power and stuff like that. So really I really kind
Speaker 1: of came from and my mother was a drug addicts
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so it was really kind of
Speaker 1: like coming from nothing, like really coming from the dirt,
Speaker 1: really didn't have like shoes, grow up on sandals, stuff
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Do you have kind of like an idea of what
Speaker 2: you want life to look like?
Speaker 1: I mean to me, because you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: people kind of sat like imaginary personalities that they have
Speaker 1: like their life is kind of perfect. I'm on social
Speaker 1: media a lot, so I kind of see what quote
Speaker 1: unquote a good life is, and I know that's unachievable
Speaker 1: for like ninety nine percent of people. So for me,
Speaker 1: like a good life would maybe be like owning some
Speaker 1: land in like a forests or like Colorado, having a house,
Speaker 1: you know, having some animals.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a good goal. That's a good goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty reasonable. If he asked me, how do you
Speaker 1: start that?
Speaker 2: How do you start a farm?
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not sure that's a good one. I'd have
Speaker 1: to ask my grandpa about that. My whenever we lived
Speaker 1: on the farm, he built it out of a tobe actually,
Speaker 1: so basically out of mud. And hey, we lived in
Speaker 1: New Mexico, so that's kind of like like natives there
Speaker 1: for like older peak like older generations, so it was
Speaker 1: kind of a unique way of living and growing up.
Speaker 1: We had a whale and stuff. We had like sheep goat, big.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Pretty lit, pretty lit, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, living and.
Speaker 2: See, I'm very I'm I'm see. Okay, back back to
Speaker 2: the very beginning, Back to the very beginning where I
Speaker 2: was complaining about my own neurotic life and you were
Speaker 2: telling me that you envied it, and then you were like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's talk about my ex girlfriend fucking my cousin, which
Speaker 2: was a good that was a better train of thought
Speaker 2: than what I was talking about. But yeah, dude, I
Speaker 2: struggle with that too. I struggle with trying to figure
Speaker 2: out how to, you know, not stay inside playing video
Speaker 2: games all the time and do stuff I'm lucky that
Speaker 2: by nature of this gecko thing, I'm afforded many opportunities
Speaker 2: to go be out and about amongst you know, the universe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's that's why I say I envy you,
Speaker 1: you know, because you go on tour, you go to
Speaker 1: this place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and you know, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I cherished the fuck out of those experiences and
Speaker 2: they're great. But I you know, I just finished this
Speaker 2: like fifty five whatever city tour around the world, and
Speaker 2: it was such a magical, beautiful thing. But then when
Speaker 2: I got back and I was back in like day
Speaker 2: to day life, I was like, ah, fuck, I didn't
Speaker 2: really uh create any community where I actually am, and
Speaker 2: I got to start from scratch on them. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't really know what to make of that.
Speaker 2: But uh, that's that's that's my that's my personal goal
Speaker 2: right now and especially you know now I'm going to
Speaker 2: move uh back across the country how to how to
Speaker 2: create community because it's it's weird, right, It's like what
Speaker 2: I did was the was like some kind of height
Speaker 2: of of a magical thing of like I'm going to
Speaker 2: travel the world and meet all these people and do
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And I did that, but now I'm like, huh,
Speaker 2: what is what is a Now I'm like at the bottom.
Speaker 2: Now I'm like, oh, I sit inside and play video
Speaker 2: games all day. So I'm like, well, how do I
Speaker 2: get my life to be somewhere in the middle ground?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that's kind of just what humanity
Speaker 1: has kind of struggled with forever. Like if you kind
Speaker 1: of look for look at a lot of like the
Speaker 1: emperors and stuff back in the day, that's what they
Speaker 1: kind of did too, Like they had their own kingdom
Speaker 1: and they weren't happy with this, so they wanted to
Speaker 1: get bigger, you know, grow. But I feel like that's
Speaker 1: good that you kind of succeeded in what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do and you still have the drive to want
Speaker 1: to do more and push to go further in your life.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: That's a drive that you know a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2: Have, No thanks, I want to have. This has been
Speaker 2: kind of like we're like going back and forth therapying
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 1: I really don't like talking too much about feeling feelings
Speaker 1: about myself, so it's nice. It's it's been a real
Speaker 1: talking to you get you know, I'm a real I'm
Speaker 1: a terurisht this moment.
Speaker 2: Thanks bravery, Thanks man. What's your and Andy?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Andrew, Andrew, Andrew. Nice to meet you.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Look, you seem like a good guy. It seems like
Speaker 2: I said, alright, but it seems like you've been a lot,
Speaker 2: I said, I said, it seems like you've been through
Speaker 2: a lot, and keep uh, keep your head up, man.
Speaker 2: I think you know, don't don't try to don't try
Speaker 2: to take over the whole fucking universe at once. And
Speaker 2: I think he'll eventually find some form of good life
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One one thing that I like to tell myself every
Speaker 1: day that helps me through loneliness and you know, like
Speaker 1: she was side with thoughts and stuff like that, is
Speaker 1: you can't use you can't. I'm sorry, Uh, you can't
Speaker 1: use a permanent solution for.
Speaker 2: Uh temporary problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Permanent solution for a temporary problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so high right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I hope you I hope you're all right, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, get through it.
Speaker 1: Like you said, I envy you a lot, and like
Speaker 1: you said, it's not everything is not perfect. So no
Speaker 1: matter if you have money, no matter how it goes,
Speaker 1: there's always going to be problems in your life.
Speaker 2: I hope you I know you're saying that right now,
Speaker 2: but I hope you truly truly understand it, because I
Speaker 2: I even after.
Speaker 1: Well, you know it's hard to but now that I'm
Speaker 1: saying it out loud to you, you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of easier to get over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because I'm gonna tell you I've achieved, Like
Speaker 2: when I was eighteen, I mean, yeah, this was yes,
Speaker 2: seven years ago. When I was eighteen. It feels weird
Speaker 2: to say when I was your age, but when I
Speaker 2: was your age, I very much dreamed about doing all
Speaker 2: of the things that I'm doing now and having things.
Speaker 2: And you know, I dreamed. I dreamed about living the
Speaker 2: life that I sometimes get to live. And I still
Speaker 2: have many many problems. So and and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: still doing I'm still going I'm still in my head
Speaker 2: thinking about I'm still in my head dreaming about other
Speaker 2: lives and thinking about how in those other lives I
Speaker 2: won't have problems. So I haven't even really learned that lesson.
Speaker 2: But I hope you understand that. And I hope that.
Speaker 1: That you if I to hear someone like you, you know,
Speaker 1: some random come can come, can build you know, a
Speaker 1: podcast and a platform, my kids, oh, my father, their dreams,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope that in the understanding of all
Speaker 2: of that, you're like, you know what, let me just
Speaker 2: take today to be stoked on the fact that I'm
Speaker 2: not starving to death and the sun is up. You know.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course I've been there, so you know,
Speaker 1: every day above that is a good one.
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say to the people of
Speaker 2: the computer before we go, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Don't overwork yourself and love yourself.
Speaker 2: Have a good one, bro, Take care man as well.
Speaker 3: Call from Joy.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hey, oh my god, Hi, what's up?
Speaker 4: Not much. I've been listening to your stuff for so long,
Speaker 4: but this is the first time I tried.
Speaker 2: Very cool. It's I probably I I've probably said this recently,
Speaker 2: but I'll say it again. I've been doing this podcast
Speaker 2: for over three years, just over three years, and it
Speaker 2: is really, really, really cool to me that I'm still
Speaker 2: new people that I've never talked to are calling in.
Speaker 2: Because I thought to myself, I'm like, if I do
Speaker 2: this for you know, I don't know how long I
Speaker 2: could do this before I'm just going to keep talking
Speaker 2: to the same people. So happy to hear from you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2: So what is your name? I'm Joy Joy? What's going on?
Speaker 2: How's life?
Speaker 4: Life is good? Uh? I'm finishing my last year of
Speaker 4: school and now I'm like stressed out. So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't know what to go do school.
Speaker 2: What did you study?
Speaker 4: I'm studying illustration?
Speaker 2: How much student that are you in?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Will? Let's not talk about that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's see what do you What should you do
Speaker 2: after school? You could? You could walk around.
Speaker 4: I'd like to do more than what I want to
Speaker 4: go into children's book illustration.
Speaker 3: That's like my goal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to but just you keep in
Speaker 2: mind you got to walk around to get there. I know,
Speaker 2: I know, you gotta like walk to the Actually, you
Speaker 2: know what, I think you can become a children's book
Speaker 2: publisher without having to walk ever, ever, yeah you could
Speaker 2: just well are you at your computer right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you have a tablet that you can illustrate stuff?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you. I think you could theoretically
Speaker 2: create your entire career without having to get up from
Speaker 2: your chair. Ever maybe I mean you'd have to walk
Speaker 2: to get food and stuff, but you could do everything
Speaker 2: without having to get up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot of Like I guess I
Speaker 4: was taught, like all the best thing that you can
Speaker 4: do is like draw from life. So it's like encouraged
Speaker 4: to go out and draw from like your surroundings and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I guess I was. If I was at my computer,
Speaker 4: I won't get that experience, which might hinder my ability
Speaker 4: to get my fullest potential.
Speaker 2: You know, look, man, whatever pretentious fucks said that has
Speaker 2: never heard of Google images anything that could possibly inspire you.
Speaker 2: You can look up and look at pictures of on Google.
Speaker 4: Yes, Asia, what.
Speaker 2: Do you what kind of give me? Can I hear
Speaker 2: a pitch for one of your children's books?
Speaker 4: My thesis I'm working on, Like he's a little star
Speaker 4: preacher and he's like in the galaxy and then he
Speaker 4: falls from the sky and he lands on Earth and
Speaker 4: then he's lost and then he finds like a family
Speaker 4: and a home.
Speaker 2: Is the family freaked the fuck out? Or are they like,
Speaker 2: oh this is cool.
Speaker 4: They're like, oh this is cool. It's like, oh this
Speaker 4: is so nice.
Speaker 2: I like, guy, how does it. How does it end?
Speaker 2: Does the Star get to his like back to the
Speaker 2: space or does he hang out with the family.
Speaker 4: No, he's with the family. So it's it's like a
Speaker 4: supposed to be an adoption story from my own personal
Speaker 4: experience as an adoptee. So it's like he's kind of
Speaker 4: like the representation of like an adoption to a new
Speaker 4: family and like his forever home.
Speaker 2: That's like this kind of reminds me of Lee Loo
Speaker 2: and Stitch, except the Star seems like he's not like
Speaker 2: an asshole and is kind of an asshole.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of stories where it's like sound family
Speaker 4: of like you know, an outer world creature or like
Speaker 4: character that like goes into like a sound family or
Speaker 4: like a new family, and I gravitated towards those stories.
Speaker 4: So I'd like to make one of my own someday.
Speaker 2: If you want to tell us, what's what's the analogy
Speaker 2: from your own life? What happened with you?
Speaker 4: I am a adoptee from China. So I was adopted
Speaker 4: in China when I was like a baby, and then
Speaker 4: I moved to America, and you know, it has its
Speaker 4: craziness of like, you know, I don't really fit in
Speaker 4: like white American, but I also don't really fit in
Speaker 4: with like Asian American, like Chinese culture, because I'm like
Speaker 4: in that middle ground of like you know, oh, I
Speaker 4: didn't grow up with the traditions and stuff of you
Speaker 4: know people that we grew up with, I guess surrounded
Speaker 4: by those in that culture. So I'm like separated that
Speaker 4: from I'm also not you know, fully American. So it's
Speaker 4: like that weird like I feel like I don't belong
Speaker 4: either way, which kind of sucks. So like the book
Speaker 4: that I'm working on is supposed to kind of be
Speaker 4: like for the kids who are struggle with like that idea,
Speaker 4: it's like, Oh, it's okay that you're not, you know,
Speaker 4: fit into one part. As long as you have a
Speaker 4: family that loves you no matter where you were, it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. And I feel like that's an important thing
Speaker 4: that adopted me to learn because I was my parents
Speaker 4: read a lot of children's books to me of that
Speaker 4: kind of idea, and then like you know, like Lane
Speaker 4: Stitch and all that like showed like, oh, you could
Speaker 4: be family no matter what you are.
Speaker 2: How old were you when you were adopted? Oh we baby,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh baby, did you ever did you
Speaker 2: ever like do the thing of trying to figure out
Speaker 2: who your like biological parents are or is that not
Speaker 2: interesting to you?
Speaker 4: I it's it's like been in the back of my mind.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I thought about it. I haven't
Speaker 4: done anything of that process, but I've thought about it,
Speaker 4: but it's not it's not a it. I guess it
Speaker 4: would like fill that little hole in me of like
Speaker 4: if I want to venture out and find them, but
Speaker 4: it's not as important because like, I love my family here.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know, I think I'd like to
Speaker 4: go back to China, like maybe after school and I
Speaker 4: have like some time, and I'm like, oh, like you
Speaker 4: go back to China.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to China?
Speaker 3: I was there.
Speaker 4: So my sister's also an adoptee. So when I was
Speaker 4: like eight or whatever, we went to China got her.
Speaker 4: So I've been to I've been to China before, but
Speaker 4: I don't remember much stuff.
Speaker 2: Little is there, Like is there a reason why people
Speaker 2: adopt babies from China instead of just like from down
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you. I like, I know there's a
Speaker 4: lot of like I have a few friends that also
Speaker 4: adoptees and stuff, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, when you go to China, so you didn't
Speaker 2: even you you weren't remotely conscious being while you were there.
Speaker 2: You were just a baby.
Speaker 4: But yeah months, Yeah, I don't know, I don't remember
Speaker 4: how much.
Speaker 2: But yet you were born to two Chinese people, so like,
Speaker 2: but but yet you grew up like totally like American.
Speaker 2: When you go to China, do you, like, do you
Speaker 2: do you feel anything?
Speaker 4: Uh, like when I go? Or like when I went?
Speaker 2: When when you went, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean I was with my family, so like they
Speaker 4: probably saw me as like, oh, that's their child, Like
Speaker 4: I don't really, I don't think. I also, when I
Speaker 4: was a young kind of had the brain capacity of
Speaker 4: the complexity of like feeling different like that, I didn't
Speaker 4: really think much about it. But now that I'm older
Speaker 4: and I have that like relation and I learn more
Speaker 4: about it, I'm like, ah, if I went now, i'd
Speaker 4: probably feel like different. I don't think I felt much
Speaker 4: when I was little.
Speaker 2: I don't remember how how old were you last time
Speaker 2: you went? Like eight or nine?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well, now you're like an adult.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: I don't remember much from.
Speaker 1: What I was.
Speaker 2: Where. Where in China do you want to go to?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Specifically where I'm from, I guess or where I was
Speaker 4: where I was from quanghoe An. I think it was
Speaker 4: so I'd like to go there, But now we're really specific,
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I'd like to go to China too. It
Speaker 2: seems cool.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's like a crazy like every time I'm on every
Speaker 2: time I'm on Instagram and I see like wild blade
Speaker 2: runner type architecture ship, it's always from China.
Speaker 4: Uh uh yeah, yeah, what's the ship?
Speaker 2: Can you do? You do you know any Chinese?
Speaker 4: I took Chinese in high school. I have not picked
Speaker 4: it up since, which is really bad. And I should
Speaker 4: And like my partner speaks and his family speaks like Cantonese,
Speaker 4: like I should have learned. I should just like Cantonese,
Speaker 4: like I don't.
Speaker 2: I was like so.
Speaker 4: And I'm in New York, so like with Chinatown everything,
Speaker 4: I'm also kind of absorbing I guess that culture through
Speaker 4: that and like being surrounded by people and like speaking
Speaker 4: the languish, but I should. I should figure out.
Speaker 2: You could do you could do one of those apps.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: I tried do lingual for a hot minute and then
Speaker 4: everyone's like, ling is not good for Chinese. You gotta
Speaker 4: go on like something else. Was like, oh okay, So
Speaker 4: then I just never looked into other What about what
Speaker 4: about Babel? What's babbel?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: There there are another They're another one of those apps.
Speaker 4: Okay. See they also have a silly mascot like Dolinguu.
Speaker 2: No they don't. Everyone needs kind of a silly mask.
Speaker 2: Everyone needs a silly green mascot. If anyone's hiring, I
Speaker 2: like you.
Speaker 4: You're you're a green mask.
Speaker 2: I am a green mascot. What's your name again?
Speaker 4: Joy?
Speaker 2: Joy? Hmmm, I feel like I got I feel like
Speaker 2: I I got a well rounded, brief window into your
Speaker 2: life over the course of these ten minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't expect to go into that deep, but yeah,
Speaker 4: this is this is great.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: What's next for you, Joy or I guess that's what
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm figuring out. Yeah, gonna I'm gonna work
Speaker 4: on my project and after school, I guess I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna work and hopefully things work out for me. And
Speaker 4: I you know, I'd love to illustrate my own books
Speaker 4: and stuff and hopefully they get noticed.
Speaker 2: And yeah, if I could leave you with some parting words,
Speaker 2: uh huh from my own personal experience lately, even I
Speaker 2: hope that the stress of figuring out what to do
Speaker 2: next does not distract you from the most important fucking thing,
Speaker 2: which is to actually make stuff.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that happens to me all the time. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: too much about the big picture. Whatever the fuck all
Speaker 2: the kinds of things that I do that I don't
Speaker 2: make anything.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, definitely I get scared, like out when
Speaker 4: I get out of college. I'm like, it's gonna work
Speaker 4: and I'm not actually gonna make things. I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: worry about, you know, living, which like sucks. But I
Speaker 4: hope to keep, you know, doing what I love and
Speaker 4: being able to share that with people. That's important for me.
Speaker 2: If you illustrated a child and the child came to life, Oh,
Speaker 2: if you illustrated a child. If you illustrated a child
Speaker 2: and the child came to life and robbed you for
Speaker 2: twenty dollars at gunpoint, would you go you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to make books for children anymore.
Speaker 2: Children are kind of assholes.
Speaker 4: I'd been more concerned why he is a gun, but
Speaker 4: I I, you know, i'd be like, man, that just
Speaker 4: happened to me. That sucks.
Speaker 2: Joy. Yeah, is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer.
Speaker 4: Before we go, tell your loved ones you love them.
Speaker 4: It's important. And before I leave, get you know? You
Speaker 4: know in New York? You know you're in New York show?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wait?
Speaker 2: Did you were you there?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I was the person that gave you a drawing.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I totally remember that drawing. I totally have
Speaker 2: that drawing. I totally remember you. I'm not even I'm
Speaker 2: not even trying to be a Dickrent, I'm making one
Speaker 2: hundred serious. I remember that drawing. I remember you. Wait
Speaker 2: a minute, didn't you? And tell me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: if I remember this wrong? There weren't weren't you with
Speaker 2: two friends? And you said to me like you were
Speaker 2: with two friends? Okay, I remember, and tell me if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. But did you say like, I don't know
Speaker 2: you that well, but my friend does. And I'm just
Speaker 2: discovering you now.
Speaker 4: I haven't watched you for years.
Speaker 2: Now is it which which? Fuck?
Speaker 4: Hm hmm the Grammarcy Theater?
Speaker 2: Was that the Grammarcy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh ship, I was thinking about the Bell House. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Maybe I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: You're you're good?
Speaker 2: Hold on, oh man, dude, hell yeah, what'd you think of?
Speaker 2: What do you think of that show? You remember that
Speaker 2: Turkish guy.
Speaker 4: The doctor Candalo for whatever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor honeydew. That was insane. Well thanks for wait
Speaker 2: was there?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Fuck? Was there a part two to that thing about
Speaker 2: the live show or no?
Speaker 4: I just I just want to mention I was the
Speaker 4: person I gave you a drawing at that show, and I.
Speaker 2: Wanted to call in because I was like, okay, wait,
Speaker 2: what was what was the draw? Was it just a
Speaker 2: drawing of me? I wish I I I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: not at my all all the drawings from that leg
Speaker 2: of the tour. I think I have that one at
Speaker 2: my at my mom's house. So I'm going to take
Speaker 2: a look at that next time.
Speaker 4: There. Yeah, just you sitting and you talking and stuff.
Speaker 2: Dude. Fuck yeah, thanks for thanks for taking the time
Speaker 2: out of your day to draw me doing stuff.
Speaker 4: Of course I wish it was more elaborate, but I
Speaker 4: was like, I was happy.
Speaker 2: I was able to do it, so any any more
Speaker 2: elaborate it would have disgusted you. No, no, the scales
Speaker 2: would have been slimy. It would have been too much.
Speaker 3: To draw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joy, thanks very much, man, and good luck on
Speaker 2: your on your children's book dreams and on your dreams.
Speaker 4: All night.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Have a good night, dude, you too. Joy was a joy.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many times she's heard that before, but
Speaker 2: it's true. Hello, yo, what's up man?
Speaker 3: You're sitting me yo, yo, yo, I am I'm on
Speaker 3: stream right now. You're still streaming. I'm listening.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I'm here, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just got really really nervous. Bro. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: oh my god.
Speaker 2: All right, what's up man, that's what's going on? What's
Speaker 2: going on? I'm feeling I'm you're you're excited enough for
Speaker 2: two of us?
Speaker 3: Fuck? All right, okay man, dude, alright, So so hi,
Speaker 3: what's holy fuck?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 3: My heart is just like racing. Uh. I know you
Speaker 3: have a rule and not to look at chat. So
Speaker 3: I'm not even actually tuned into the stream. I was
Speaker 3: playing a whole different game with like a few of
Speaker 3: my friends. So like, it's just you and I right now.
Speaker 2: Man, man, your name is you texted me? You said
Speaker 2: your name is Rubiks, You're twenty four years old, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just step this off you. Okay. So our
Speaker 2: last podcast, uh entitled I Am a Speed Demon. I
Speaker 2: was on the phone for a while with a guy
Speaker 2: named Deafy and he put his like phone number in
Speaker 2: the stream chat and you texted me to say that
Speaker 2: you texted the guy from the speed Demon podcast and
Speaker 2: that you and him are going to ride motorcycles together
Speaker 2: this weekend.
Speaker 3: This weekend. Yeah, yeah, isn't that crazy? No? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: So he actually shouted me out. He said, Oh, this
Speaker 3: one guy in chat, uh, you know, posted Oh I
Speaker 3: love riding in Chicago too, because that's what I posted
Speaker 3: in the chat. I was like, oh, I ride in
Speaker 3: Chicago too, Like, let's meet up. He put his phone
Speaker 3: number down. I reached out to him and I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: like this is cool, and it just happened to be
Speaker 3: pretty cool. So I'm a I'm I plan on riding
Speaker 3: with him this weekend. What questions do you have?
Speaker 2: Well, okay, but the whole fucking thing, the whole thing
Speaker 2: of that podcast was that him. It was it was
Speaker 2: a terrible thing that he was doing. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: really bad.
Speaker 3: So it's funny reach out. We talked about this a
Speaker 3: little bit. He was like, yeah, that guy was shitting
Speaker 3: on me. But I guess he just doesn't get it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, it's it's not an easy thing
Speaker 3: to get you know.
Speaker 2: He oh he he said that I was shitting on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was on him a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I know him. I was, you know, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I wasn't shitting on him. I like him. He's a
Speaker 2: cool guy. I was shitting on the act. I was
Speaker 2: relentlessly shitting on the activity. It's a terrible activity.
Speaker 3: Okay, but like this is my thing, right, I think
Speaker 3: it's funny. I'm like semi attasson to like of like
Speaker 3: kind of like video creation and stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: and the video idea I've always wanted to do is
Speaker 3: like explain why people ride motorcycles. Right, Uh, just like definitely,
Speaker 3: Like I had a I have a group of friends
Speaker 3: that I also ride with, right, and I think we
Speaker 3: all have like a different reason as to why we ride.
Speaker 3: And I think that every and I think I think
Speaker 3: definitely said this too everyone, at least I'm not, and
Speaker 3: I got this from you. Like you never tell people
Speaker 3: they should do, but should experience, as I say, should
Speaker 3: should experience what it's like to be on a motorcycle
Speaker 3: like it is. It is truly like I don't know
Speaker 3: if life changes.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. Here's the thing, being being on
Speaker 2: a This is just gonna be a repeat of the
Speaker 2: last podcast being on a motor I don't have a
Speaker 2: I don't have an issue with riding a motorcycle, but
Speaker 2: riding a motorcycle one hundred and fifty miles an hour
Speaker 2: down the highway is a terrible idea.
Speaker 3: No, it's fun, it's fun. There's a sense of like, so, so.
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, what's gonna happen, my friend? When you
Speaker 2: you're gonna crash your car, you're gonna kill yourself, You're
Speaker 2: gonna kill somebody else. It's a terrible fucking idea. You're
Speaker 2: not gonna give it. This a terrible idea.
Speaker 3: Odds that you kill somebody else is pretty low. Odds
Speaker 3: that you kill yourself pretty hot. So I think, right,
Speaker 3: I think that there is a sense of like when
Speaker 3: you're going one Admittedly, i've never been one to think
Speaker 3: the fast dog gone for like one, like my bike
Speaker 3: doesn't go too fast, right, But when when you're going
Speaker 3: that fast, right, you're not thinking about any of that. Like, okay,
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. Objectively, it makes rubiks.
Speaker 2: That's what do you know what you hold on? Shut
Speaker 2: up for a second. Do you know what you just
Speaker 2: said to me? Do you know what you just said?
Speaker 2: You said, I said, it's a terrible idea because you
Speaker 2: you're going to kill yourself or somebody else. And you said, well,
Speaker 2: it's actually not because when you're doing it, you're not
Speaker 2: even thinking about the fact that you're going to kill
Speaker 2: yourself or somebody else. That's what you just said. And whatever,
Speaker 2: I don't you know, look, if you want to.
Speaker 3: You know, go die.
Speaker 2: That's your prerogative in life, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, oh, you know, okay, all right, So
Speaker 3: all right, you know what can I I'll be try
Speaker 3: is crazy, all right? That is? That is I would
Speaker 3: I would even even like one hundred plus. It's like
Speaker 3: kind of crazy, you know, but I think just the
Speaker 3: idea of like writing like we all have our own reasons. Yo.
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy? What's also crazy? To at least
Speaker 3: to me, is like you know, you you go to
Speaker 3: your nine to five and you come home, you watch TV,
Speaker 3: and you repeat that cycle for eighty years. Like that's
Speaker 3: that's that's crazy, right, I okay, we have to go
Speaker 3: to the point where we risk our lives. Right Why?
Speaker 2: Why are why do you live it? Why do you live?
Speaker 2: Why do you? And defy live in this binary universe
Speaker 2: where you're either uh sitting on the computer all day
Speaker 2: or out wreaking havoc upon the roads. There's more than
Speaker 2: two things to do in life anyway, Rubik's I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna continue to fight you
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, you know what, you know, I
Speaker 3: actually appreciate the challenge of this. My like my like,
Speaker 3: my friends all say the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your friends are all right, and you should listen
Speaker 2: to them because they don't want to go to your funeral.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I think I think that we
Speaker 3: have I can't speak for Duffy, but at least for me,
Speaker 3: I've been through plenty of life experiences where I think
Speaker 3: I've almost boiled it down to like it's it's one
Speaker 3: or the other, like It's not that I don't appreciate
Speaker 3: the little things and like the things that come in
Speaker 3: between a calmer lifestyle, right, but I think that uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like I don't know, I feel like like
Speaker 3: I hang out with my friends or I hang around
Speaker 3: with people. It's it seems like that. It just seems
Speaker 3: like that that binary or I don't know what words
Speaker 3: you use, but like that it's two ends. It's either like,
Speaker 3: all right, you're gonna be settle, chill and like boring,
Speaker 3: or like you can do exciting things.
Speaker 2: You can either be settle, chill or boring, or you
Speaker 2: can just put a ton of people and yourself at
Speaker 2: risk of being crushed by a car in the road.
Speaker 3: That that's hard to argue against when you put it
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: It is anyway, what did do you do anything else
Speaker 2: in your life? Rubics?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so well done a lot of things. Man.
Speaker 3: So I'm twenty four, So I graduate to college. Uh.
Speaker 3: In college, I was like doing a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: with like our athletic department, so like I would do that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think just after college, life just got like two.
Speaker 3: I won't say mundane for me. You know, I've been
Speaker 3: I've been like I don't know, dude, Like my I
Speaker 3: hate talking about my life like it's been. It's just
Speaker 3: been a crazy, like crazy dance of where I'm at now.
Speaker 3: I have two cats that I really love and like
Speaker 3: I think they're they're pretty cool, and like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I think my life. I go to the gym a lot,
Speaker 3: but like I mean, I do things on my but honestly,
Speaker 3: I also I've jumped out of a plane before.
Speaker 2: Like, uh, even that, even that is safer to me,
Speaker 2: even that, even that is way safer to me than
Speaker 2: the stupid motorcycle thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys, I I you know, I'm glad
Speaker 2: that you guys made friends because of this podcast.
Speaker 3: He thinks you to be.
Speaker 2: And I see, I'm on Reddit all the time, watching
Speaker 2: fucked up videos for you know, just to bring just
Speaker 2: to bring some form of chemicals to my brain. And
Speaker 2: so I see all kinds of like there's some video,
Speaker 2: there's some video I watched. I think, O there he
Speaker 2: watched a video on Reddit that said something like reality
Speaker 2: hits asshole in the face after he crashes driving one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty miles on his motorcycle down the highway
Speaker 2: and it's just like a go pro video of a
Speaker 2: guy driving his motorcycle one hundred and twenty miles down
Speaker 2: the highway and he gets into a crash and you
Speaker 2: can see his like you can see his like brains
Speaker 2: and guts, like just like get gets slathered against what
Speaker 2: the road?
Speaker 3: Why do you do? A fuck you?
Speaker 2: What do I watch it? Why do you do it?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Holod? Shut up? Shut up? What
Speaker 2: do you mean? What do you mean? Why do I
Speaker 2: watch that? You fucking do it?
Speaker 3: I know I don't watch it like a fuck man
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Uh you fucking do it?
Speaker 3: Can I sell you? Okay, okay, I'm not as crazy
Speaker 3: as I'm not crazy as death. I'm not crazy as death.
Speaker 3: Problem I actually I I think I'm a lot more
Speaker 3: chill when it comes to it. But because it's my
Speaker 3: motorcycle doesn't go like that fast. Also, you asked me
Speaker 3: what I do in my life? Can I tell you
Speaker 3: what I do on the motorcycle? Like something that brings
Speaker 3: me joy? On it?
Speaker 2: Rubrics, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say I'm only rubucs.
Speaker 2: I'm only saying this to you because I like you.
Speaker 2: If I thought you were an asshole and deserved to die.
Speaker 2: I would say you should totally continue to ride your motorcycle.
Speaker 3: Can I can I tell you what I do on
Speaker 3: it though, as I ride through the city.
Speaker 2: Would do you juggle lives? No?
Speaker 3: I saw, No, I don't joggle. I So I have
Speaker 3: I have Spider Man on my back, like I have
Speaker 3: this Spider Man like it's almost like it's almost like
Speaker 3: stuff animal, but Spider Man. It's like Miles Morales, right,
Speaker 3: And I have a Spider Man motorcycle helmet. So then
Speaker 3: when I ride through the city, it's like tenacity can
Speaker 3: see my face. So when I ride through the city,
Speaker 3: I pass out like Spider Man stickers, uh, two kids
Speaker 3: and to like people that are also wearing Spider Man stuff,
Speaker 3: and it just it brings him so much joy. And
Speaker 3: I think that I would I personally, I like doing
Speaker 3: that more than going like one hundred plus miles prowder
Speaker 3: Like that's crazy. Again, I'm not crazy as Deffie, So
Speaker 3: I think I think that's a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Maybe you and Defie can ride your motorcycle sixty miles
Speaker 2: an hour around town giving little kids Spider Man stickers.
Speaker 2: That'd be nice.
Speaker 3: Go do that that. I will do that. I will
Speaker 3: do that. Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm talking
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: Tell him I sat high too.
Speaker 3: I will, you know what I will? I will text definitely.
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's listening to you right now. My
Speaker 3: phone's going crazy, so I'm sure this might be him sexting,
Speaker 3: But I will tell him that you said, Hi.
Speaker 2: Here's what the next time. Next time I'm on the
Speaker 2: Internet and I see crazy motorcycle videos of people getting
Speaker 2: uh getting cheese graded against the highway, I'll send him
Speaker 2: to you. That's what it is. Due, That's what it is.
Speaker 2: That's what it's gonna happen. You're gonna get. You're gonna
Speaker 2: get cheese graded across the fucking across across the road.
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna get. I'm not I'm no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not wishing it upon you. I'm not wishing it
Speaker 2: upon you. I'm actively campaigning against it. Actually, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm doing. Okay, But when it when it happens, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be a kid, a little a splatter of your
Speaker 2: brain is gonna come on a little kid's uh spider
Speaker 2: Man sticker and it'll just erase all the joy that
Speaker 2: you gave him, turn it into trauma and sorrow.
Speaker 3: Ever watch Spider Man again?
Speaker 2: Is it a real name, Rubics?
Speaker 3: No, it's I just know how to solve a cue.
Speaker 3: I thought I could do a lot.
Speaker 2: Of things in my life, and that's that's cool. What
Speaker 2: happened to that? That's a good hobby.
Speaker 3: I mean, it can only get so far, but you
Speaker 3: can solve it. It's like then, what you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can go for time, but I'm twenty four. I'm
Speaker 3: not interested in going to any competition with my life
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: Let me know, let me know how you're let me
Speaker 2: know how you're in Deafy's hang goes. If you guys
Speaker 2: make it when.
Speaker 3: You want to call back in, you may text you
Speaker 3: when you when you request it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure you can call back in. You know, I
Speaker 2: want to say. I even taking this call, I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not a big I like my I like my
Speaker 2: show to be like insular, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I don't like Yeah, yeah I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: because you ever like like it will not like repeats,
Speaker 2: but like, I don't, I'm not a big I don't
Speaker 2: do like Part one Part two storylines and stuff, because
Speaker 2: like you ever, I'm gonna try to explain something that
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dound like I'm complaining. But you ever listened
Speaker 2: to a podcast or you're like watching a YouTube channel
Speaker 2: and some guy goes like, oh, yeah, Nick was over
Speaker 2: yesterday and we were talking about what was going on
Speaker 2: with Molly and it was crazy and all the comments
Speaker 2: are like, oh my god, Nick is so weird, and
Speaker 2: You're like, what the fuck is that I don't.
Speaker 3: Care about this whole universe story line?
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it's like you're supposed to know whoeveryone
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I want if you've never I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of stuff on the internet is like
Speaker 2: that where it's like you have to be in the
Speaker 2: lore of the whole universe, and I like, you know,
Speaker 2: you every up, you don't need to know anything going
Speaker 2: into this stuff. But this, yeah, but this this is
Speaker 2: this was this was nice sort of No, you know what.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate you even calling me in the first place,
Speaker 3: like it's all okay. You know how everybody tells you, right,
Speaker 3: they are like, oh, I've listened to you for like,
Speaker 3: you know, a year or two years, and need you
Speaker 3: to think you go thanks man, right, you know how
Speaker 3: you like that that typically goes right? Oh yeah, So
Speaker 3: so I I have like I've been listening to you,
Speaker 3: bro for like the past I don't know, three is months,
Speaker 3: and like every day so my job would I do?
Speaker 3: Like I just drive around right, so I'm in my
Speaker 3: car all the time. And uh, and I I tuned
Speaker 3: into you. I don't even know what made me start
Speaker 3: listening to you, but bro, it's like if you've become
Speaker 3: my personality, Like it's it's crazy as fuck, Like I
Speaker 3: will be like, well, if you listen to my friends,
Speaker 3: will complain about somethingbody, Well, if you're listen to therapy,
Speaker 3: got you'll be fine. Like it just boiled it down.
Speaker 1: It's like the simplest ship.
Speaker 3: And like you just go on with your life and
Speaker 3: and and and I was like I have one day
Speaker 3: I would love to talk to you and dude, like
Speaker 3: you've you've just been You've been amazing, dude, and just
Speaker 3: like there it is.
Speaker 2: What am I I don't know? Sorry? Sorry I was.
Speaker 2: I was too busy. I was too busy getting mad
Speaker 2: at you for other things that I kept the energy
Speaker 2: going while you were being nice to me. Sorry, I
Speaker 2: was about to yell at you and go, well, what
Speaker 2: the hell am I supposed to say?
Speaker 3: Even yo? Okay, last okay, last bit. We could keep talk.
Speaker 3: I could talk to three hours. The I just have
Speaker 3: to give you a compliment, another compliment a couple episodes ago,
Speaker 3: or I was thinking, I don't know if I was
Speaker 3: to do old episodes, but you were like this guy
Speaker 3: was like trying to move to Thailand, or he was
Speaker 3: like a traveler and you're like, we'll move to Thailand.
Speaker 3: He's like, what the fuck I'm gonna do with Thailand?
Speaker 3: And you're like, well, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 3: what the fuck we're doing anyway. I don't know what
Speaker 3: the hell we're doing, like anyway, and then so yo
Speaker 3: even like now, like when you're saying, what the park
Speaker 3: are you doing? Rydan the motorcycle, what the fuck are
Speaker 3: any of us doing? Point blank?
Speaker 2: Period, Like, don't use me again. That's not when you
Speaker 2: interpreted a wrong thing from them.
Speaker 3: No, what am I wrong? Am I right?
Speaker 2: You're very wrong. You're one hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 3: All right, Wile and I it was your work.
Speaker 2: You're very wrong because because there's a difference between like
Speaker 2: there's there's extremes. Right, I talk a bunch of shit
Speaker 2: on this podcast about like things and people. You know,
Speaker 2: people talk a bunch of shit about a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: But there's a streams to life, right, There's, like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's there because there's moving to a foreign country and
Speaker 2: trying to start a new life and putting yourself out
Speaker 2: there and trying to make new friends and whatever, and
Speaker 2: that's like a challenge. And then there's juggling chain saws,
Speaker 2: you know, And both of those guys could be like, well,
Speaker 2: what's anyone doing anywhere? No, there's what you're doing. It's
Speaker 2: like it's like juggling chain saws at a playground where
Speaker 2: children are running around, and it's a little bit like
Speaker 2: that that.
Speaker 3: No, I think it's also all relative. I think that
Speaker 3: if you have a person that is you know, we're
Speaker 3: talking about that safety lifestyle like you're nine to five
Speaker 3: and security and things like that, they would they would
Speaker 3: view moving to and I don't want to see sory
Speaker 3: about it, but they would view moving to Thailand to
Speaker 3: start a new life and and start again as juggling
Speaker 3: chainsaws in a playground filled with children. Like I think
Speaker 3: that's relative.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll see you on Reddit.
Speaker 3: Can you come back when you when you come back
Speaker 3: to Chicago, it's if definite. Deffie and I are there.
Speaker 3: Can we just like come up on stage?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, text yeah, come come come through. We'll try
Speaker 2: to make it happen.
Speaker 3: That was you don't you don't have to make that happen.
Speaker 3: It was just like a if you if you want,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Ka, I'm gonna come back to Chicago twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Okay, if you're.
Speaker 2: There, I'm there.
Speaker 3: I yo, I'm pissed I missed and everybody says this
Speaker 3: to Damn, I feel like, fucking I'm just part of
Speaker 3: the machine of therapy. Get go. But I missed your
Speaker 3: Chicago show because of fucking work. I work, so I
Speaker 3: couldn't go. But I really, I really want to go
Speaker 3: to your twenty twenty four show for sure.
Speaker 2: I'll be back. If I pull up and there's a
Speaker 2: motorcycle in the parking lot, I'll be like, oh it's
Speaker 2: that guy.
Speaker 3: I'll wear my spider man olmet uh rubiks.
Speaker 2: Is there anything you want to say to the people
Speaker 2: the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Enjoy life? And I know a couple of episodes ago
Speaker 3: you also like stop giving the advice, but like, enjoy life.
Speaker 3: Everyone like it can get crazy like people, you know,
Speaker 3: you can experience a lot of different things, but enjoy
Speaker 3: it and like learn from it. And I can't promise
Speaker 3: you you'll be good, but I promise you'll get somewhere,
Speaker 3: whether that's like riding a motorcycle or whatever. And I
Speaker 3: guess last thing is a gold Lions line.
Speaker 2: Sare Hey, take care man, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yo, thank you. I have a good one. Dude's see
Speaker 3: it looks see you, dude.
Speaker 2: You know, I I liked that guy. I just think
Speaker 2: he was an idiot and uh, no offense to him.
Speaker 2: I just think I just well, you know, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say he's an idiot. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: anything wrong with driving a motorcycle. I just I think
Speaker 2: if you're riding a motorcycle one hundred and fifty miles
Speaker 2: an hour, you're an idiot. I don't know how fast
Speaker 2: he's going. If he's just a trolling around town on
Speaker 2: the bike like Warrio and giving uh stickers to kids,
Speaker 2: that's that's cool too. I'll see you soon, Rubik's Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe we can, Yeah, maybe we can talk about it
Speaker 2: in person. In Chicago. We'll see goes on the line
Speaker 2: taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 1: The re Beak goes doing his d He's
Speaker 2: Teaching you a loud in the mom of your life,
Speaker 2: but he's not really an expert.