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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. I'm Hannah Elliott and

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller.

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Speaker 2: This is Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's podcast, We're going to hear match

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Speaker 1: report from Moto GP in Austin, Texans. KAM, And you

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Speaker 1: were texting me all weekend. Yes, Yes, seem like you

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Speaker 1: talk to a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I did. Man, I only tell you about it. So

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Speaker 2: you're my phil outlet. I've been to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here. Some of them I know, some

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Speaker 1: of them I don't know. And then I'll like go

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Speaker 1: look up later and make sure I know who you're

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Speaker 1: talking about.

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Speaker 2: But one of the other things that you know that

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Speaker 2: I haven't been telling you is how much love I

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Speaker 2: have for this Nissan Armada. And who would ever have

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Speaker 2: believed not me? Yeah, I would not have believed. It's

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Speaker 2: not even a is your current love affair. I feel like,

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Speaker 2: you know, in a world where there were no prices,

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Speaker 2: I might rather have this truck than a Cadillac Escalator V.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Matt, what you got too much sun in Texas?

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Speaker 1: This is we need to dive into that because that

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Speaker 1: seems insane. And yes, and we also should talk about

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Speaker 1: this Volvo B sixty that I've been driving. I have

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Speaker 1: it because they wanted to show how the software update

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Speaker 1: makes the car better. But I'm kind of in love

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Speaker 1: with the car because it's so nineties.

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Speaker 2: It's an actual station wagon. Not it's a crossover or

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Speaker 2: an suv.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a oh no, it's a it's a wagon.

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Speaker 1: My positive perception may also have to do with the

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Speaker 1: car that I drove before it, because that was not

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Speaker 1: a great experience.

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Speaker 2: The same family, right, No, oh, I thought it was

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Speaker 2: a Polestar.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, that was that was my mistake.

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Speaker 1: This is Polestar technology. But it went in the Volvo.

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Speaker 2: Got it.

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Speaker 1: It's a little confused.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about the Volvo. We're doing like some

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Speaker 2: pedestrian cars, right A Nissan, Yes, and Evolvo, although that's

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, that's definitely aspirational luxury. But I

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Speaker 2: want to kick it off with the ultimate in luxury,

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Speaker 2: and that is the million dollar supercar that you got

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Speaker 2: to drive in northwestern Spain.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, again, we are in Spain and you are

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Speaker 1: not crazy, Matt. I had never been to San Sebastian

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Speaker 1: The food's incredible. So that was really cool. And we

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Speaker 1: did talk a little bit about the Valhalla, but this

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Speaker 1: was before the embargo lifted. So now the review is out,

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Speaker 1: we can talk freely about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's explain to people who aren't familiar with

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Speaker 2: Aston Martin because everybody knows, even uh, you know, my

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Speaker 2: car exactly and and you know, they have an suv

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Speaker 2: and they have their vantage, but they have this like

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Speaker 2: collection of cars or this this portfolio of offerings that

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Speaker 2: So what's the deal.

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Speaker 1: So this is a plug in hybrid supercar that Aston

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Speaker 1: powertrain and all that it's currently and how it emerged

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Speaker 1: and what I drove is over a thousand horse power.

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Speaker 1: It's like ten sixty four top speed of two hundred

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Speaker 1: so you can do both, and I think you should

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Speaker 1: do both. Actually, that's kind of the point of this piece.

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Speaker 1: And pricing starts at just over a million dollars, so

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of car. I think at twin turbov

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Speaker 2: And this is but this is a car that you

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Speaker 1: Yes, and yeah, that's kind of the point. That's the point,

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Speaker 1: It's not just the Valhalla, it's it's I think it

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Speaker 2: Drive, right, I mean it makes sense, right if you're

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Speaker 2: the podcast because I noticed that you have all these

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Speaker 2: I think it looks cool and I have a million dollars, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And that is exactly like, if we want to

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Speaker 1: be very cold and calculating about it, that is the

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Speaker 1: market that Aston Martin is going for with this car,

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Speaker 1: because they've got the Valkyrie, which is the supreme hyper

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Speaker 2: The Valkyrie is a single seater. It's almost like an

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Speaker 1: Right can. Yes, And then they've got, of course, all

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Speaker 2: They have D cars and D cars by the way exactly,

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Speaker 2: those normal ones. Then Valkyrie, Valhalla and Valore those are

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Speaker 1: And Valhalla kind of fits in this this gaping hole

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Speaker 1: it's certainly an investment vehicle, No pun intended, There aren't

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Speaker 1: to your point, these are not necessarily enthusiasts. In fact,

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Speaker 1: seventy percent of the buyers for Valhalla are first time

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Speaker 1: Acid Martin owners. So this is capturing a lot of

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Speaker 2: It's not available with a manual transmission, right is it not?

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Speaker 2: at this price point, I feel like you could almost say, listen, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's an extra two hundred grand, you know, like they

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Speaker 1: I don't think it works. No, I mean, we talk

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's and obviously this is not your only highly

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Speaker 2: that you go back to the nine eighteen and also

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Speaker 2: I noticed in your story one thing, that one other

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Speaker 1: Don't want to shift a thousand horse power.

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Speaker 1: This is my This was my biggest complaint. And they

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Speaker 1: and you've given us screens that are not on par

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Speaker 2: Why even screens? Like why not go over to they know,

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Speaker 2: go to Modona, look at the Pegani factory. Look, dip

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Speaker 2: your head into one of those cars, and give me

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Speaker 2: some like CNC milled, like the aircraft grade aluminum. Yeah, knobs,

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Speaker 2: Because for if I'm spending a million dollars, I want

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Speaker 2: the car not to look aged in a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: and these screens are going to if they even continue

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Speaker 1: They already do. I just that they know that, and

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Speaker 1: I think it was like, you know, this car changed

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone, we're Hot Pursuit. Matt just gave a

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Speaker 2: So okay, the Valhalla I was looking at that you

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Speaker 2: on the Aston Martin Valhalla, which is a million dollar

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Speaker 1: Why can't we do a special episode from the Isle

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Speaker 2: I think we can and we should.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like how we did Lamal. We should take

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome, you know. And do we have the

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Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty four, he had been coming up

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Speaker 2: team because he you know, he's in the junior leagues

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Speaker 2: and he won, so now he gets to move up

438
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: to the majors. But in twenty twenty five, Mark Marquez

439
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: made it clear that he wanted to race for the

440
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: factory team, and he's like the goat, he's like the best.

441
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: So Ducati took Marquez instead of taking Jorge Martin on

442
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: the factory team, and then in protest, Martin was like,

443
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: all right, screw you guys, I'm leaving and going.

444
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: To another where he's appreciated.

445
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: Exactly, So he went to a Prillia. But at the

446
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: beginning of the very beginning of the season, or even preseason,

447
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: he got so injured that he couldn't really race for

448
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: most of the season, and the Aprilia bike is like

449
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: it was like an also ran like not nearly as

450
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: good as the Ducati, which was totally dominant, and he

451
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: saw that he could get a ton more money from

452
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: a Japanese manufacturer. So he spent all of last season

453
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: basically injured and like probably because of bad advice from

454
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: managers or friends and family, trying to quit the Aprillia

455
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: team that he wasn't even racing for because he thought,

456
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: you know, the bike wasn't as good. And then Marco

457
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: Betzeki over last year had made the Aprillia into the

458
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: best bike on the circuit, and now this year the

459
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: Aprillia totally dominates. Yes right, yeah, they keep finishing one

460
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: too and better than Doukati. And so now this kid

461
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: who like has gone through so many trials and tribulations

462
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: and won a world championship and then didn't get to

463
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 2: be on the factory team and then tried to quit

464
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: a Prillia because he thought their bike wasn't good enough.

465
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: Now he's back in great form and full health, and

466
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: he happens to be on the best bike and his

467
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: arms are huge.

468
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Speaker 1: Based on that photo, you sent me. Yeah, I mean

469
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: he's he's very swoll.

470
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah he is. And he's also like you know his

471
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: poor kid from the bodio, like never had anything, and

472
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: he's not like one of these rich kids who grew

473
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: up racing with money like he had to.

474
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Can I ask, speaking of the top eleven places current

475
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: standings right now, they're either Spanish or Italian. Yes, out

476
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Speaker 1: of the top eleven, it's either Spanish. What is that about?

477
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: What about those cultures makes for incredible?

478
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean I think so. For one thing, it's like

479
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: the weather's so great there and they around so many

480
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: tracks and they have so much training. So it's like

481
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: in pro tennis in the US, like all the pro

482
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: tennis players are in Florida. Yeah, and that's because that's

483
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: where the bulletary academies of the world are. And that's

484
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: the same thing. Like Kenny Roberts I think, had a

485
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: school in Spain, and like you know, even the American

486
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: riders who are good, they go there to train.

487
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: And it's just the network instruction.

488
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's also someone was asking me about it

489
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: because my wife is like a bigger Moto GP fan

490
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: than I am.

491
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: Like she's she's in all of these photos with you smiling.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

493
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: No.

494
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: And she's also you know, she's the one who when

495
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: we went into the a Prili garage and we're talking

496
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 2: with the team principal, she's the one asking the smart questions.

497
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: And when I'm at night, when I'm on bring a trailer,

498
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: you know, looking for nine nine sevens, she is stalking

499
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: all these Moto GP pilots and like getting the inside info.

500
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: And she's the one who knows, like you know, they're

501
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: not allowed to have active arrow on the Moto GP bikes.

502
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: So what Aprilia has done is they have a piece

503
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: on the bike where the rider can cover it with

504
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: his forearm and when he does, it increases like force exactly.

505
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: It's like manual arrow. Smart they have it like there's

506
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: a tailpiece that directs a lot of air and if

507
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: the rider scoots over in a turn and puts his

508
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: butt in front of the tailpiece on either side, he

509
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: can block that.

510
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: That is so cool.

511
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: And so she's she's the one who knows all this stuff.

512
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: But she's from Spain, and I just telling somebody else

513
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: like Moto GP is essentially like an eternal Spain versus

514
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: Italy Championship.

515
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: You know deep too, so very deep.

516
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: It's like when there are reports that Dukati was going

517
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: to take Pedro Acosta from KTM and that's not been finalized,

518
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 2: but my wife was like, that's impossible. Ducatti can't have

519
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: two Spanish writers, Mark Marquez and.

520
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Pedro Acosta being national. Would there be a revolt?

521
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to have. Like when when Valentino Rossi

522
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: went to Dukati, everybody was like, oh, this is a

523
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: match made in heaven. Turned out to be a disaster.

524
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's that's the struggle right now. You know.

525
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Wow, So I know you saw a bunch of other people.

526
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: You saw Kayla.

527
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: I met Kayla and she's agreed to come on our podcast.

528
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 2: Woman who the first woman to podium after the day

529
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: to one five hund We've been talking about it. But

530
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: she's also like, I mean she's very young. I think

531
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: she's only eighteen, but incredibly well spoken.

532
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh she's.

533
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: Yes, well you have to be. They all look at

534
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: Jorge Martin next to me.

535
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: I know, I know it come to your ribcage. Yeah.

536
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: But she was hanging out with Claudia Dominicali, the CEO

537
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: of Ducatti the whole weekend Wow. He's totally enamored by her,

538
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: and he is, you know, massively supportive of the race

539
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: efforts and used to run the race division for Ducatti.

540
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: He's been there since nineteen ninety one. DOMINICALI, that's crazy,

541
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: Claudia DOMINICALI has been at Ducati longer than my wife

542
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: has been alive.

543
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love that. That's og. That is consistency.

544
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: This is what we want, consistency.

545
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: I talked to you time. I spoke with with both

546
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: Zarco and Fabrio Quartrara. So I spoke both of the

547
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: French riders, which was great.

548
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: How's their English?

549
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: It's great? Okay, very good? All right. By the way,

550
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: I saw Dex Shepherd. I begged him to come on

551
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: my podcast. He was like, h you know, I have

552
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: a lot of work with my podcast.

553
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: Was he Did you just go up to him or

554
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: like what?

555
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: I just walked up to him. He was like walking

556
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: by me. Dax Shepherd and Bill Burr were walking by me,

557
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: and my wife was like, hey, there's Dax, there's Daks.

558
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Because I don't recognize anybody out in the real world.

559
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 2: So she pushed me in front of him and I

560
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: was And by the way, he's jacked.

561
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: He looks. I was like, wow, someone.

562
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: And I have a problem like balancing introducing myself as

563
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: a serious journalist and being a fanboy.

564
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's attention there, this atension, Yes.

565
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: I get. I don't know how to say like, I

566
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: work at Bloomberg Television, I do a finance show.

567
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm actually a serious person.

568
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say that. So instead I'm like,

569
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: I love Chips so much, you know, and you know

570
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: he made a remake of Chips. And then I'm like hot,

571
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: I do this Hot Pursuit podcast.

572
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, we have a mutual friend, Lake Belle, and

573
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: I was at Lake's birthday party literally this past weekend.

574
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: Didn't tell him that, Well.

575
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 1: We should have because I think he and Lake are

576
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: pretty close. So that's our that's our frit, that's our

577
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: close circle.

578
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. They did a TV show shortly, I think, but

579
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: it was called Blessed this Mess. I watched every episode

580
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: and I told him, like, I watch all your stuff.

581
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: Hit and Run as one of my favorite movies. And

582
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: but I still have to talk to his people.

583
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: It'll happen.

584
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, so Motor GP was amazing and it's so

585
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: great to see in the us, because you know, we

586
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: used to go to all the races in Spain and

587
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: Italy and you know in Holland and Germany and France,

588
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: but there it's huge. So when you go into the

589
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: paddock there, you know, there's millions of people and these

590
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: guys are all swarmed and they like retreat to the

591
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: media center but or their garages. But when you go

592
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: to the paddock in Austin, it's like hardly anyone's down there.

593
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Nice. It reminds me of how when F one drivers

594
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: used to come over and like they could walk around

595
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: and no one would know any different. But at least

596
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: you get access, which is great.

597
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: It's so cool.

598
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have any like good food or do

599
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: anything Texan delicious food?

600
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: I was hanging out with my buddy Michael Haas and

601
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: with some other journalists. I was hanging out with Pross

602
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: from Yahoo and Yeah, and Matthew Miles formerly of Cycle

603
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: World now at now at Barber the Barber Museum, and

604
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: I was talking to people from Moto America and from

605
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: F one, you know, because everybody kind of runs in

606
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: those circles and they all go and hang out there.

607
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: And Austin is so much fun, Like I obviously shopping

608
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: on South Congress is perfect for me, because.

609
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: Did you get anything? I know, I didn't know. You

610
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: turn your nose up at my suggestion that you should

611
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: buy some boots.

612
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: No I wanted. I want to, but I have a Again,

613
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: my wife is from Spain, so she is the most

614
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: frugal partner I've ever had. So I would go to

615
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: the stores and look at these, like know, three four

616
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: hundred dollars flannel shirts and she would be like nope,

617
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, Or walk into Dakova Ta Kova's and she

618
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: just grabbed my arm and pulled me right out. I

619
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: didn't even get to look in the store, like you.

620
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Just caught the whiff of lets you move past.

621
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: So no, I just like ice cream was as much

622
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: as I was able to.

623
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: That's the splurge, all right.

624
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: So that was Moto GP. And you know, before I

625
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: got to Austin, I was driving this Nissan Armada. It's

626
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: a special edition called the Nismo, and I didn't expect

627
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 2: to fall in love with it. When I got back, fortunately,

628
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: it was still waiting for me at the airport and

629
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: I spent some some precious sea time my beloved Nissan. Yes,

630
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: it looks crazy. No, it looks horrendous, but I fell

631
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: in love. I'll tell you why when we come back.

632
00:32:48,680 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: This is hot pursuit, Matt, Welcome back.

633
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: This is a face only a mother could love. Is

634
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: possibly possibly one of the ugliest cars I have ever

635
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: seen in my life.

636
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: I you know that wasn't. My reaction was wow, I

637
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: can't believe. But I grew to love it. And we're

638
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: talking about.

639
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: Paper bag over if we're talking.

640
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: About the Nissan Armada. I drove the Nismo addition and

641
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: it's one dealer. I was talking to you, putting me

642
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: like this, he said. I think it's an amazing car too,

643
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: but there's no way my wife would approve of that

644
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: boy racer vehicle in our driveway. So it's like the

645
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: one I have is gray and it's got these bright

646
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: red accent solid.

647
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: That's the one on there. I think it's the one

648
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: on their web page.

649
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: And it's got like diffusers, the kind of which you

650
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: would see on like a souped up Camra or Civic.

651
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's just too much and unnecessary. I have

652
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: to say they overdid it on the styling exterior and interior,

653
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: by the way, but they did not overdo it on

654
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: the motor tuning, the suspension tuning, the interior.

655
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm having an allergic reaction.

656
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: The interior, like the space is so wonderful. So I

657
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: drove this car right after I had driven the Cadillac

658
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Escalade V, and in that one, I was thinking, God,

659
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: if I could only have one car in the whole world,

660
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: this might be it.

661
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was your final.

662
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: Because of the supercharged V eight growl, and because of

663
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: the you know, it's like almost seven hundred horse powers,

664
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: so brash, it's so in your face, and plus it's

665
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: so luxurious. But the thing about the Cadillac is it

666
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: just doesn't handle very well. I mean, I think six

667
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: five hundred pounds, it's pretty heavy, and yeah, it's like

668
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: if you could push it around a corner, it might

669
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: roll over. Like I wasn't caring because I love the

670
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: way it the way it made, the sounds that it does.

671
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: But it does other things great exactly. And also it's

672
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: so big and so spacious. But this Nissan is just

673
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 3: as big and spacious. It really feels like you're driving

674
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: a truck like I see it does. In the driver's seat,

675
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: I could barely see over the hood and in a

676
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: good way, in a good way. But this thing handles

677
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: like an absolute dream, No, it does. It's like for

678
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: a truck, right, it's a body on frame SUV. It

679
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: weighs like five hundred pounds less than the Escalade. It's

680
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: not as light as a Ford Expedition. If you're in

681
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: this market, these are the things you're cross shopping, right.

682
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: Sure, but it has four hundred and sixty horse power,

683
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 2: five hundred.

684
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: That's it. That's that's four hundred. Doesn't even have five

685
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 1: hundred horse power for this.

686
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: Thing, all right, But where else are you going to

687
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: get five hundred horsepower in the body on frame suv?

688
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: Escalade?

689
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: Only the Escalade V. Nothing else has that, not the

690
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: normal Escalade, No toil or Yukon, no Expedition, no Toyota Sequoia.

691
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: Like there isn't another body on frame SUV that has

692
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: this much horsepower until you step up to the one

693
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand plus one hundred and fifty thousand

694
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: now really dollar Escalade V, Like you can't get there

695
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: with any other product. And this thing handles better, I

696
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: think for the space and the interior kind of luxury.

697
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: It's it's not quite there with the Escalade, but it's

698
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: almost as good and it costs eighty thousand dollars fully loaded.

699
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: Okay, let me tell you something that makes me instantly suspicious.

700
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Why am I not seeing what kind of engine it

701
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: has on the website I've been all over, they don't

702
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: actually say what the engine is.

703
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: It is a twin turbocharge V six. Oh bad. Like

704
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: I said, it's not a V eight, But I will

705
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: tell you something. It delivers the power and has the

706
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: cut somehow, it has the V eight berbal that I want.

707
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: With that V six, it's like mildly related to the

708
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: GTR B six. Okay, it's not a UK Surpose record.

709
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: This monstrosity is like a GTR.

710
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's like that, but I'm saying I really.

711
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Think that company makes them.

712
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 2: Sure, I really want to buy this car. I've never

713
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: wanted to buy a Nissan before, and it's it's a

714
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: relative deal compared to anything else on the market. Like

715
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: I've cross shopped everything, even if I look at like

716
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: a Tahoe RST, which starts out much cheaper as soon

717
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: as you put the bigger motor in it, the six

718
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: point two Leader, which gets you like four hundred and

719
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: twenty horse power, so almost there but not quite. You're

720
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: looking at an eighty five thousand dollars car and eighty

721
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: six and then when you want to put on what

722
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: they do is they they take out everything that you

723
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: would want in a luxury suv and make it pay

724
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: extra for it. So for the Tahoe, if you want

725
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: the rear view mirror that has a camera in it,

726
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: or if you want heads up display, or if you

727
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: want like their super CRUs which admittedly is fantastic technology

728
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: and not even available in the Nissan, you have to

729
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: pay an extra like four or five thousand dollars, So

730
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: you're ending up with the NIS with the sorry with

731
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: a Chevy Tahoe RST. If you want the fancy schmancy

732
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: tech stuff and the exhaust, you're looking at one hundred

733
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: thousand dollars suv. And that's not even for the top

734
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: of the line Tahoe, and the Tahoe isn't even the

735
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: middle of the road for what GM makes, right, it's

736
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: not even the Yukon. So the Nissan is offering you

737
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: everything in with this Nismo for twenty thousand dollars less

738
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: than really the nearest competition, and that's because they have

739
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 2: no brand equity, right, Nobody wants to buy a Nissan,

740
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: but it just offers you like an incredible deal. I

741
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: just see so much value for money, and I really

742
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: really enjoyed driving it, and it's a fantastic place for

743
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: my family to be. I would just have to cover

744
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: up the boy racer bits or rip them off.

745
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: This, I think, really gets to the heart of how

746
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: deeply shallow I am, because I don't Everything you said

747
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: may or may not be true, and I'm sure it

748
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: is true, but I can't get past how it looks.

749
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: That's just a that stops me in.

750
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: We all have those issues, like I want to Corvette.

751
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: That's a hang up.

752
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: I want a Corvette, but I don't want my neighbors

753
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: to see that I have a Corvette. You know.

754
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're at the end of the day, cars are

755
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: an emotional purchase, and my emotions feel very bad when

756
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: I look at this, very bad.

757
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, I'm in my age. I'm

758
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: getting beyond that right because every people kind of make

759
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: fun of me from my challenger and still I don't

760
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: I love it so much.

761
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: Well, if the right people are making fun of you,

762
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: then you know, you made the right choice. I mean,

763
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: there is that too.

764
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: But wait till I have a Nissan on Armada and

765
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: Corvette Z six convertible in my name, then will.

766
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: Know you've reached your your truly authentic self. And that's

767
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: a good place to be. You know, it's not wrong.

768
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: By the way, tell me about the Volvo, the Volvo

769
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: V sixty, which I can't even believe they still make

770
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: and sell, because that's I feel like my mom had

771
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: that car in the nineties, so I know.

772
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: Well, it feels very nineties. And this goes along with

773
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: my current obsession with all things nineties. And I know

774
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: it's like going around on the internets, but like there's

775
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: a bigger push and there's a big sense of nostalgia

776
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people are feeling for

777
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: the nineties. And when I so the car that I

778
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: drove before this, that was the Mercedes EQS four hundred

779
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: witch EQS for yes, okay, which is their big suv.

780
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: But the base model.

781
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it was it was It felt really weird.

782
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: We actually went hiking on the weekend and I drove

783
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: it out there and on these twisty roads like back

784
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: back back country Malibu honestly, I started to get car sick.

785
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: There's something about how the car is attached to the platform.

786
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: I obviously I don't know what's going on there, but

787
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: there's weird, a weird disconnect. So my point is when

788
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: I got into the Volvo, it was like, ah, it

789
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: was like a flashback, snap back to like I mean

790
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six. I in nineteen einety six, I

791
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: was like fourteen, so like driving my parents' car or

792
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: like driving to school a few years later. It was awesome.

793
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: And it just felt like, oh, I'm connected to the road.

794
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: It's super sporty, it feels small. Sit low, right, you

795
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: sit really low. It's cool. And actually, I think when

796
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: people see you in a Volvo station and they assume

797
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: you're a good person. I had so many people letting

798
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: me into traffic, you know, just it just felt like

799
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: I was a good person when I was driving it.

800
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: And it Yes, it did have some screen It does

801
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: have screens. And the whole reason why I got it

802
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: is to experiment with their new Pollstar technology that you

803
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: can download to the car, which is great. It's a

804
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: it's a ninety minute download. I did it. You turn

805
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: it up, push select yes, and then the car does

806
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: it by itself. It was delightful and it made me

807
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: think I've never really been a wagon bro I know,

808
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: like everyone who writes for Jelopnik is.

809
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's anymore.

810
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: Still exist, I'm not sure, but all of that to

811
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: say this was such a delight It was. And also

812
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: the seats were super durable. It just it didn't feel

813
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: precious at all. It was really lovely.

814
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: But it's beautiful. But it's beautiful, right, I mean, I

815
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: feel like it so elegant.

816
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I'm not going to say the specs

817
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: are amazing. It's got less than three hundred horse power,

818
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's not. It's a hybrid, which is awesome.

819
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: So I was driving it everywhere for a week, did

820
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: not have to go to the gas station once, which

821
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: was awesome. It the specs aren't incredible on paper, but

822
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: there's something with how they've engineered that car that is

823
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: really fun and it felt analog. Yeah, to me, it

824
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: was delightful.

825
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: I think people make way too much of a big

826
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: deal about horse power, and I think you you pointed

827
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: out last time we were talking that with the in

828
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: the age of evs, it.

829
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter anymore, doesn't matter, it really does.

830
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: My first car that I ever bought with my own

831
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: money was a two thousand and one Auty, a four

832
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: Evaunt with a two point five TDI and it had

833
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty horse power. And I remember not

834
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: thinking that number was bad, you know, and it was.

835
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: I could get over two hundred kilometers now ur on

836
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: the Autobahn.

837
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

838
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: As I was in.

839
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: Germany, Yeah, what year was that, I'm sorry, two.

840
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: Thousand and one, That is cool, two thousand and one,

841
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: and uh it felt fast to me, I mean it was.

842
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: It was a manual transmission wagon with like a little

843
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: bit of a racer boy interior. I had like a

844
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: Swede seat, you know, middle Swede seat centers. But one

845
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty horsepower was enough in that car. And

846
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: I think in this this car has two hundred and

847
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: fifty or something.

848
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Yes, over sixty.

849
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: Yes, it can feel more than adequate totally because it's

850
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: not a very heavy car.

851
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: Oh. And that's it shows how much we have, Like

852
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: there's been such big growth in the size of cars

853
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: and just how they all. It looks and feels very

854
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: svelt in a way. It really does. It was kind

855
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: of delightful. It felt like a return to normalcy, an

856
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: end of the madness.

857
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: I like it.

858
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Big Fan looks super cool and I and yes,

859
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: I do like people thinking I'm a good person.

860
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: I have my you are a good person.

861
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: Know comes in ghosts. But you know I liked it,

862
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: Big Fan.

863
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: All right, that's excellent. That's all we have for this week.

864
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: What do you got going on next week?

865
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: Oh?

866
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: Let me think.

867
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: Are you driving anything fun? Are you going any place cool?

868
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: No?

869
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: Hold on, are you wearing anything awesome? I like your

870
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: fur coat.

871
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Speaker 1: It's Easter on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm I Now. I told you before that we

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Speaker 1: were going to look at a certain car a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. No, we did look at that car, and

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Speaker 1: now we're getting that car. So we may be going

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Speaker 1: to pick up that car, but I'm not supposed to

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Speaker 1: tell you tell you what it is. Yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you offline.

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Speaker 2: Different. It's a different car. You're getting the Camar and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna go look at a different car.

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Speaker 1: I wish I was getting the car. I'm not getting

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Speaker 1: the car.

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Speaker 2: Getting the car. You won't tell me about it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got it. I get it, but I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you about it offline. Yeah, so there may be

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Speaker 1: like a car pick up in there. But then tomorrow

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Speaker 1: we have off too, which I'm do you have off?

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Speaker 2: This podcast is coming out tonight, so it's coming out

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Speaker 2: on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't you know?

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Speaker 2: We have the New York Auto Show here in New York,

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Speaker 2: by the way, which are you going? Yeah, so Bloomberg

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Speaker 2: has a new weekend show. I don't know what it's called,

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Speaker 2: probably like Bloomberg Weekend, I think. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That would be very us.

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Speaker 2: On TV and on radio. And Christina Raffini, who is

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Speaker 2: a fantastic one of the two anchors. She anchors it

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Speaker 2: with David Gera. They're both like, I love them both.

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Speaker 2: But Christina wants me to take her to the car

901
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Speaker 2: show and show her like the coolest things there. So

902
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna try not to

903
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Speaker 2: like mansplain too much the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for her SHOWY okay, good, that's great. That'll be

905
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Speaker 1: really exciting. Is it live?

906
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Speaker 2: So no? No, okay, We're gonna We're gonna record like

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Speaker 2: five hours worth of stuff and then edit it down

908
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Speaker 2: to like four minutes. So I'm doing that, which is

909
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Speaker 2: pretty cool. Uh, And then other otherwise I'm just gonna

910
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Speaker 2: look for eggs. I'm hunting, hunting for eggs.

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Speaker 1: The girls get like an easter outfit? Is that a

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Speaker 1: thing for you?

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Speaker 2: Occasionally if like my mom or their Spanish grandmother like

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Speaker 2: thinks ahead. My wife and I don't, like, we don't

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Speaker 2: really do the close thing because we have so many

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Speaker 2: people around us doing it for us. But my five

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Speaker 2: year old last night told me her plan is to

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Speaker 2: go to as many Easter egg hunts as possible, and

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Speaker 2: she's gonna have a special basket so she can collect

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00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: more candy than she ever has before, and then she's

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Speaker 2: gonna hide it in the corner of her closet so

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Speaker 2: she can sneak in there and eat candy when we're

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Speaker 2: not around. I don't know why I told me.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, probably because you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm on board.

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Speaker 1: You're an ally that does it. For this week's show,

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Speaker 1: your comments, email us at hot Pursuit at Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: And check out Hannah's columns and stories on Bloomberg dot

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Speaker 2: Com and on the Bloomberg Business app. Go there for

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Speaker 2: car reviews. To either place for car reviews, events and

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Speaker 2: Matt Miller.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Hannah Elliott. We'll be back in your podcast

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