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Speaker 1: of the brands, y'all get closer to this Radio rolling Stone,

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Speaker 1: and south By Southwest. That's where I met him. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Paul Raining.

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Speaker 2: How you know, Paul, I'm doing very well. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for having me on the show.

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Speaker 1: I didn't set you up too big, did that?

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Speaker 2: Paul, No, no, I appreciate, you know, giving up flowers

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Speaker 2: while I'm still living. Well.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's the great thing about it, Paul, you

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Speaker 1: talk about this journey. When I say things like that,

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Speaker 1: and you're an African American man, does it? Does there's

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Speaker 1: a journey to get there? Can you give us your

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Speaker 1: academic background and how how you got this all started

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I would say my first training was

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Speaker 2: at home, thank you, from a large family and a

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Speaker 2: And know, my dad had his own logging company, So

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Speaker 2: starting out at a very early age really learning how

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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about to your father. That's entrepreneurship, right,

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Speaker 1: a business, small business owner in Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, entrepreneurship. You know, he did a lot of

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Speaker 2: My audience, you know what I say. One, you know,

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Speaker 2: But you know it was as you can imagine. We

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Speaker 1: Put the where you all your family is a family reunion,

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Speaker 1: Let let's talk about you know before, like I said

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Speaker 2: You know, south By Southwest is probably one of the

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Speaker 2: where you have a diverse people and diverse thought and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an amazing event, ladies and gentlemen. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting when Paul describes it because it's it doesn't

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Speaker 2: Correct, No, absolutely, just bringing in that diversity of people

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Speaker 1: You know, as we talk about this similar backgrounds in

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Speaker 1: My guess, Paul Rainey, he's the executive vice president, not

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Speaker 1: My guess is Paul Rainey. He is the executive vice

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Speaker 2: things that I would say is number one. You know

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Speaker 2: that however you want to budget, but just spend less

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Speaker 2: than you make. That's how you create wealth over time,

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Speaker 2: investing over a long period of time. It doesn't happen overnight,

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Speaker 2: and just making sure you have a diverse to the

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Speaker 2: things that you're working with and you'll be surprised at

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Speaker 2: how that momentum and the compound and interest in returns

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Speaker 1: My man, Paul Rainey brother, I know you're busy, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, you took time to talk to my audience

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conservations master Class. That's my show, the show

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Speaker 1: I mentor people who call in, people who stop me

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Speaker 1: and say thank you, I say thank you, thank you

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Speaker 1: for taking time to come on my show and give

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Speaker 1: worldly advice, international advice, advice that as an African American man,

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Speaker 1: you out there making a difference and raising a family

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Speaker 1: where you're mentoring kids to make a difference in our future.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Paul.

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Speaker 2: Now, thank you so much for the opportunity