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Speaker 1: Good evening, and welcome to Turning Point Tonight, where we

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Speaker 1: are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. We've got

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Speaker 1: something fun for you today. Now, I know, myself included

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Speaker 1: a lot of us out there like to pick on

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Speaker 1: the state of California as a place where, well, you

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Speaker 1: see what they're doing over there, don't do it that way. Now.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the laboratories of democracies and states being examples

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Speaker 1: I don't exactly like living in the place that is

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Speaker 1: an example of the bad thing to do. All the time.

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Speaker 1: That being said, myself and many others here in California,

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Speaker 1: including pretty much the entire team for Turning Point Tonight,

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Speaker 1: has decided, you know, we're not leaving, and you might

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Speaker 1: as well stay and fight, because, well, even if you

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Speaker 1: hate the current policies, California is a place worth fighting for.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of somebody who is fighting for the state

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Speaker 1: of California as a whole, there's a guy in Riverside County,

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Speaker 1: the sheriff over there, named Chad Bianco, who has well

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Speaker 1: been a bright light in the state of California. And

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Speaker 1: I won't even necessarily say for you know, hardcore MAGA,

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Speaker 1: but really just common sense, which is really what California

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Speaker 1: conservatism has become. I know there's a joke out there

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Speaker 1: when I tour the country and go speak at places,

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Speaker 1: I say, well, I'm a Republican in California and they say, okay,

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Speaker 1: so a Democrat and I laugh at the joke. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, at this point in time, California

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Speaker 1: That being said, let's welcome in our guests for today,

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Speaker 1: Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, who also has thrown his

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Speaker 1: how you doing I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Good? Sheriff? Thank you so much for being here. You know,

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Speaker 1: here's you know, off the top of the bat. My

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Speaker 1: your candidacy for governor, my wife said awesome, and then

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Speaker 1: almost immediately said, huh yeah. He seems like such a

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Speaker 1: nice guy and now his life is going to get really,

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Speaker 1: really difficult. So to start things off, you know, why

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Speaker 1: did you decide to run, and with that, I kind

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Speaker 1: of am asking, what the hell are you thinking and

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Speaker 1: what are those conversations look like with you and your

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Speaker 1: family kind of you know, taking the step to hopefully

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Speaker 1: save a state that I and I think you believe

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Speaker 1: is worth saving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first, I love you and your wife for

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Speaker 3: caring about me and thinking about me in that way.

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Speaker 2: And it truly is something that we had to think about.

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Speaker 3: And this decision for me to run, While it was

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Speaker 3: internal and there are many things that went into it,

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Speaker 3: the final decision had to be with my wife and

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Speaker 3: my family because we've been through these politics before. We

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Speaker 3: know what running for a county wide election is, and

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Speaker 3: we know what running against the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be.

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Speaker 3: So we are very fortunate or I'm fortunate that there

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Speaker 3: is absolutely nothing negative in my background that can come

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Speaker 3: or more family, and we know that everything that will

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Speaker 3: be said is basically a lie and a political ploy

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Speaker 3: to somehow discredit me or or increase their own chances,

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Speaker 3: whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 2: But it certainly is real and we know that it's coming.

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Speaker 3: But in the end, it was kind of for really

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Speaker 3: what everybody believes in your intro was absolutely perfect. California

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Speaker 3: you had to go to California, whether it was in

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Speaker 3: those other places because California government has shunned them away.

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Speaker 2: And our businesses are closing, our schools are.

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Speaker 3: Horrible, and there are so many things that are driving

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Speaker 2: But in the end, you said it.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to leave, and we love it here.

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Speaker 3: There's just something about California that is appealing, whether it's

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Speaker 2: They're looking at other states so they can raise their

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Speaker 3: A better school or the cost of living isn't so high,

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Speaker 2: Leaves because the grandkids left. I can't allow that.

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Speaker 3: I can't have that, and I certainly don't want to

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Speaker 3: have to save our state, and we have to bring

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Speaker 3: bring them back. The reality of the people that left California,

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Speaker 3: they didn't want to leave. No one wants to leave California.

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Speaker 3: You're forced out of California. And the people that leave

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Speaker 3: when they get somewhere else, they realize, Man, I want

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Speaker 3: and there's no way for me to leave that. You know,

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Speaker 3: that they that they don't like about the places that

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Speaker 3: the point where I'm going to do absolutely everything in

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Speaker 3: my power to save this state, not only for my kids,

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Speaker 3: because it is a beautiful state. It is the place

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Speaker 3: to where California government is working for Californians rather than

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, obviously, running in California as a conservative or

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, with kind of the unified

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Speaker 1: what hasn't worked in the past, how do you kind

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Speaker 1: of carry that message of look, look, we're all on

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Speaker 1: the same team. It's just that you know, we've tried

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm approaching this this race, in this election a

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Speaker 3: I'm not approaching this and I'm not going to run

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to run it for Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I can't change the fact that I'm a conservative, god

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Speaker 3: fearing Republican, but I'm not going to That's not who.

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Speaker 2: I'm appealing to.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not going to appeal to just the Democrats

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Speaker 3: or the independence. This is about California. This is about sanity,

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Speaker 3: It's about common sense. It's about that eighty to ninety

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Speaker 2: That's what this is about.

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Speaker 3: The fringe elements, the ten percent that we don't agree on,

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Speaker 3: that we argue and fight about, that's not what's killing California.

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Speaker 3: And I believe that we've become in California. We've become apathetic,

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Speaker 3: apathetic voters. We haven't cared. We've just gone along with

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Speaker 3: the program. You vote for a Democrat or Republican, depending

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Speaker 3: on what you identify as. And we've come to the

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Speaker 3: realization that that's been hurting us. And we have a

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Speaker 2: Starting to realize, hey, wait.

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Speaker 3: A minute, I don't believe any of that. The small

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Speaker 3: is what is harming everyone, not just Republicans, not just Democrats.

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Speaker 2: It's Californian. So that's what we're going to.

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Speaker 3: Approach this as as a common sense answer to our issues,

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Speaker 3: and so far it's resonating well.

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Speaker 1: So to tug on that kind of common sense thing.

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Speaker 1: I know people who are watching from around the country

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Speaker 1: You know, it's been a long time since the Republican

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. We won the Insurance Commissioner. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: The California Assembly hasn't held a majority since nineteen ninety six,

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Speaker 1: and the California Senate has not held a majority Republican

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Speaker 1: I say all that to say this, all of the

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Speaker 1: people around the country who again write California off. Fifty

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Speaker 1: five percent of Californians, according to a Public Policy Institute

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Speaker 1: It's fifty five percent of Californians no party preference here.

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Speaker 1: Is it time? Do you think that we are at

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Speaker 1: the breaking point in California where regardless if there's an

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Speaker 1: that breaking point? Is that why you're looking to push

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Speaker 2: It is? And I think it's it's the stars are aligning.

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Speaker 3: Everything, is the planets of all lined now for this

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Speaker 3: it's even more than that. But it's hard to it's

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Speaker 2: To something that is bad.

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Speaker 3: But we have to start realizing that the entire country

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Speaker 3: almost the laughing stock of the country now. And the

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Speaker 3: stark reality is Republicans played absolutely no part in that.

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Speaker 2: We have had no say in.

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Speaker 3: California in our government for the last fifteen, twenty years,

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Speaker 3: thirty years, if you really want to go backwards further.

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Speaker 3: And so even Democrats are realizing that people that are

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Speaker 2: A different direction.

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Speaker 3: And that whole I think is going to be very

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Speaker 3: at percentages of when they elect me as governor, what

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Speaker 2: Going to be.

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Speaker 1: That's especially It's a great point, yeah, Heyn, Just so

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody who dislikes California, Republicans have had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with it for decades, So don't don't blame us.

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Speaker 1: That is a fantastic point. Sheriff Fianco would be right

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Speaker 1: back after the break. I'd love to dig into a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of his insight in the law enforcement side,

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Speaker 1: especially in California. Turning point Tonight rolls on right after

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Speaker 1: the break, don't go away, Welcome back to your turning

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Speaker 1: cultural comeback. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for sticking around. If you're just joining us, We've been

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Speaker 3: Of lying about law enforcement and demonizing law enforcement for

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Speaker 3: But California in the last particularly since twenty twelve, has

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Speaker 2: And then when the public holds.

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Speaker 3: So the strict attorneys and the sheriffs, the law enforcement

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Speaker 2: We know what these laws, what the unintended consequences of

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Speaker 3: And there is never a time when we are consulted

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Speaker 3: We are purposely excluded from those conversations. And while we

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Speaker 2: But the govern owner still refuses to meet with us.

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Speaker 3: He will not discuss anything with us about policy or

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Speaker 3: It's so what you heard is is more misinformation and

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, that was That was just something I've been

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Speaker 1: On top of that, about half of voters say that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think people people have reached the point

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Speaker 3: So the local governments are there's not as much money,

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Speaker 3: I've seen that in my current dealings with the county,

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Speaker 2: And since the state is the fifth largest.

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Speaker 1: If you're asking my opinion that that sounds pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll separate it, and I must separate it

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Speaker 2: That's the homeless issue.

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Speaker 3: Now, to add more homes, to address our economy, and

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Speaker 3: We're the only state that has them. So you can't

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Speaker 3: They're actually doing the right thing for their residents. California.

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Speaker 3: We have just been taken advantage of by an extremely

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Speaker 3: we're willing to pay more for everything.

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Speaker 2: So the ability of the governor to go in.

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Speaker 2: NUSU could do it any second he chooses not to.

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Speaker 3: I as the governor, will immediately remove those regulations, and

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Speaker 3: then we will go back to the legislature to make

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Speaker 3: sure we change the laws that allowed those regulations to

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Speaker 3: be put in place so someone else can't come back

443
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Speaker 3: later and screw us over again by adding those fees

444
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Speaker 3: in those regulation costs that drive up the cost of

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Speaker 3: living in California. People think it's this amazing thing and

446
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Speaker 3: you need to be this genius to be able to

447
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Speaker 3: solve this problem.

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Speaker 2: The reality is you just have to care.

449
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Speaker 3: You have to actually care about Californians more than you

450
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Speaker 3: care about some other special interest group, whether it be

451
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Speaker 3: a big interest group or a small interest group that

452
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Speaker 3: mostly it's minority interest groups that control our state at

453
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Speaker 3: the expense of all of Californians. So what I'm going

454
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Speaker 3: there for is truly to say, sacrifice my retirement, sacrifice

455
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Speaker 3: my great job that I have here, and I want

456
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Speaker 3: to make.

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Speaker 2: Californians lives better.

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Speaker 3: Not special interests, not big business, not you know, small business,

459
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Speaker 3: not not any particular industry or special interest.

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Speaker 2: It's Californians. We have to make our life better by.

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Speaker 3: Making our government work for us instead of against us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, interesting battle that you've chosen. But God bless

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Speaker 1: you for doing it. Sheriff Chad Bianco, running for the

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Speaker 1: governor in the state of California. Really appreciate you taking

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Speaker 1: the time. We'd love to check back in as you're

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Speaker 1: further along down this road. I know it's a long,

467
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Speaker 1: long trek, but you know, hopefully, hopefully we'll be celebrating

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Speaker 1: in November of next year. I really appreciate you taking

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Speaker 1: the time, Sheriff.

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Speaker 2: Thank you absolutely anytime. I'd love to come back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Up next, on turning point tonight, we got

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Speaker 1: a clip from Alex Clark's Cultural Apothecary podcast, Don't go Away,

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 4: How much has the use of food dies increased in

475
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Speaker 4: our food since they first came on the scene.

476
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Speaker 5: They've been using food dye for decades and then yeah,

477
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Speaker 5: I think you started seeing commercials like bright food, food

478
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 5: that changes your mouth colors. Like, I think the eighties

479
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 5: and the nineties is kind of when it really exploded.

480
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: Because the eighties is when we took these people, these

481
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: scientists from the cigarette companies, put them in charge of

482
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: process food and said, hey, we need you to make

483
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Speaker 4: our food as addictive as possible. Do what you did

484
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: to cigarettes to our food. Get the next generation of

485
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: kids addicted. And then remember, growing up, we had all

486
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Speaker 4: these like it was like green ketchup and like weird

487
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 4: crazy food die stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and even do you remember that sunscreen? It was

489
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Speaker 6: my shoes on purple and then like soaks into your skin.

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Speaker 5: Well, and if you think about it, processed food uses

491
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: a lot of things like artificial flavors, and so if

492
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Speaker 5: you're going to make a product strawberry flavored but not

493
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Speaker 5: use actual strawberries, you're going to need something to color

494
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: it to look like strawberries. And so you know, the

495
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: more processed food we had, obviously like the more food

496
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: dies used to make those process foods.

497
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Speaker 4: And you guys are regular parents. You have two kids,

498
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Speaker 4: and your lives were completely turned upside down by food dies.

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Speaker 7: What happened to your family?

500
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 6: So between the ages of like one in three. Our

501
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 6: son was just really, honestly like a mystery. It was

502
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 6: kind of like Doctor Jekyl, mister Hibe. We weren't sure

503
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 6: like what kid we were going to get. Most days,

504
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 6: we had a child that was just really really struggling

505
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 6: to keep his hands to himself, struggling with impulsivity, struggling

506
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 6: with hitting and biting, and so parents listening they might

507
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 6: hear that and be like, Okay, that's completely normal. But

508
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 6: what was not normal was the amount of times that

509
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 6: happened per day, the amount of times it happened per week. Honestly,

510
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 6: his behavior was putting like such a stress on our

511
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 6: family because everywhere we went, from his mother's pointing out

512
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Speaker 6: to church to just like playdates, it was happening all

513
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Speaker 6: of the time. So we were doing behavior therapy, we

514
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 6: were consulting doctors, we were trying to help him. It

515
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 6: really kind of came to a head when his daycare

516
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 6: asked us to leave, and so we were like, what We've.

517
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Speaker 8: Got to help him?

518
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Speaker 6: So I started researching foods that could cause hyperactivity in kids.

519
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Speaker 6: So I came across an article that suggested eliminating wheat

520
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 6: and dairy and synthetic dies. He was kind of like

521
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Speaker 6: doctor Jackyl and mister Hyde where we were having like

522
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Speaker 6: these really really rough days where he was struggling to

523
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 6: control his impulsivity, the biding, the hitting, and then we

524
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 6: would have some days where he was a completely different kid,

525
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Speaker 6: Like he was very easy to reason with. It was

526
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Speaker 6: there was no hitting, it was just he was just

527
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 6: such an easy kid to parent. And so we eliminated

528
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Speaker 6: the wheat, we eliminated the dairy, we eliminated the synthetic dies.

529
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Speaker 6: Within forty eight hours, that kid that we had seen

530
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Speaker 6: glimpses of on those good days, we had that kid

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Speaker 6: for thirty days straight.

532
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Speaker 4: WHOA, that is incredible that you even thought to start googling,

533
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Speaker 4: you know, what foods could cause hyperactivity.

534
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was crazy.

535
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Speaker 7: So she has a lot of.

536
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: Dietaria issues and analogies and stuff, so she had done

537
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Speaker 5: elimination diets in the past, and so we're like, maybe,

538
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 5: you know, she thought maybe it could be something he's eating.

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Speaker 1: I was much more skeptical.

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Speaker 5: I was like, there's no way that these things could

541
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Speaker 5: have anything to do with what's going on.

542
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Speaker 4: And how soon when you started consulting with behavior specialists

543
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Speaker 4: and doctors, were they trying to push medication on your child.

544
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Speaker 6: They had asked us to have him evaluated several times,

545
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 6: and so we weren't really keen on that because we

546
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 6: had those days that were so good. It kind of

547
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 6: felt like a diagnosis doesn't really like turn on and off.

548
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 6: And he was only three at the time, so we

549
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 6: were going to give it until he was six and

550
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 6: just try to help him as best we could. So

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Speaker 6: when we reintroduced the weed, we saw no effect. When

552
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 6: we reintroduced the dairy, we saw no effect. But when

553
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 6: we reintroduced synthetic dies, within fifteen minutes, the behaviors that

554
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 6: we had been seeing came flooding back. So he went

555
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: from having thirty days straight of just this child was

556
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Speaker 6: very easy to reason with. The hitting stopped, the fits stopped,

557
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 6: and then when we reintroduced synthetic dies within fifteen minutes,

558
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 6: all of that behavior came flooding back.

559
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Speaker 7: In fifteen minutes. You can notice effects in your child

560
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 7: from food.

561
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 6: Die massive, yeah, and so not every child is that sensitive,

562
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 6: but our child is. It was crazy in a trait,

563
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 6: and Brandon was obviously a skeptic, and so when we

564
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 6: reintroduced those foods, we were like, I mean it was.

565
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 6: It was crazy. It really like won him over.

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Speaker 5: Well, like it completely changed our household. You know, we

567
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: had peace that we hadn't had. And you know, months

568
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 5: she was really stressed out. She felt like she was

569
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 5: feeling as a mother and so like to just take

570
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: this teeny little tiny thing out out of his like

571
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 5: diet to make such a big impact was huge.

572
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Speaker 4: How vindicated did you feel when you Okay, it's not

573
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: me feeling as a mom, I am a great mom.

574
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: It was this food the entire time, Like was that

575
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: just a huge burden lifted off your shoulders?

576
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Speaker 6: For sure? I mean that the way that I felt

577
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 6: it was like such a dark place as a mom.

578
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 6: And then when we were able to uncover who our

579
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 6: child really was, like this is who God made our

580
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 6: child to be, and dies were creating a child that

581
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 6: I mean, he was not created to be that child.

582
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 6: Synthetic dies were giving him sadness. It was affecting his

583
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 6: ability to connect with his friends, affecting his ability to

584
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 6: connect with teachers, affecting his ability, you know, to feel

585
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 6: good about himself. I mean even at three, like he

586
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 6: felt bad. He knew that he was, you know, not

587
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 6: doing things that he was supposed to do.

588
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 9: So the most.

589
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Speaker 6: Surprising part about our journey is that he was not

590
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 6: regularly getting synthetic dies and like the sugary cereals and

591
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 6: the sugary pastries like on the daily, Like he was

592
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: only consuming synthetic dies from his daily allergy medicine. And

593
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 6: so we were shocked that. You know, when we did

594
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 6: the elimination die, I would assume that the wheat and

595
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 6: the dairy would have more of an effect because he

596
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 6: consumes that so much of that. So when we uncovered that,

597
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 6: you know, daily he's just getting it through his daily

598
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 6: allergy medicine or if he was on a prescription medication,

599
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 6: or like the occasional birthday party, but like, he was

600
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Speaker 6: not consuming that much die regularly. To help my child

601
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: go from you know, a child that we thought we

602
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 6: maybe needed to homeschool for him and for other children too,

603
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 6: like he is thriving. And when I mean thriving, like

604
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 6: it's it's honestly almost like an unbelievable story. Like he's

605
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 6: had two years in public school.

606
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Speaker 4: How do you handle the food that they're served because

607
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: even milk and stuff in public school at the cafeteria

608
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: has food dice. So what do you do you just

609
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: pack all his lunches.

610
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Speaker 6: I think it's different at every school. At our school,

611
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 6: we haven't come across a ton of dies in the

612
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 6: lunch room, but it is great. It does creep in

613
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: at breakfast. Like lunch is not as big of a

614
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: dial at our school, but breakfast it does creep in.

615
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 6: So we do we pack lunch. We send birthday swaps.

616
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 6: So I send frozen cupcakes the air die free that

617
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 6: we make together, so it's just a sweet moment with us,

618
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 6: and we send that and we they keep it in

619
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 6: the freezer. And then we also send like chip swaps

620
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 6: or like whatever they have at birthday parties, so the

621
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 6: teachers keep us in the loop. We send his lunch

622
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Speaker 6: every day. Honestly, for us, the school has not been

623
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 6: an issue. Our school has been on board. Even our

624
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 6: school board is you know, working to try to minimize

625
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 6: the amount of dies in our school. So for us,

626
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 6: our school board has been on board and our school

627
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 6: system has been on board. But I have heard horror

628
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 6: stories about certain schools and about how dies have really

629
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 6: permeated even like lunch, like the spaghetti's, the pizzas, the fruit,

630
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: and so we know that it's there.

631
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Speaker 4: Yeah, even fruit cups, even fruit cups could have artificial dye.

632
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Speaker 7: Could you share one of the hardest days that you

633
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Speaker 7: experience in the thick of.

634
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Speaker 5: This, I would say probably the day that his school

635
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 5: first told us that there was an issue. Like we did,

636
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 5: we weren't super aware that he was having the issues

637
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 5: he was at school until they brought it up. And

638
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: so to find out that, you know, kids aren't wanting

639
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 5: to play with him, and that you know that he's

640
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: having issues, that was really hard. It's hard to hear

641
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff about your kid because you know,

642
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 5: you see the best in them and like you see

643
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 5: their potential, and so you never want, like, you never

644
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: want your kid to struggle like that.

645
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 4: So how can you be sure that it was artificial

646
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: dies and not something else, because there might be some

647
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: people that are like, that's insane. You know, it could

648
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: have been anything else that was aggravating his behavior.

649
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, So something we've noticed is or something that has

650
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 6: kind of been affirming to us, is we will we

651
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 6: will have days like Halloween where we will go trigger treating,

652
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 6: we'll do all the things, and then we will let

653
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: him consume way more sugar and way more like processed

654
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 6: foods than we normally would and like, he's completely normal,

655
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 6: and if he consumes just a small amount of dyes,

656
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Speaker 6: like we had an incident where I was this was

657
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Speaker 6: before I knew that dyes could be and like white

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Speaker 6: foods and brown foods and so.

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Speaker 7: Wait, artificial food dye can be in white food in

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Speaker 7: brown food.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like marshmallows or or some chocolates. Most chocolates die free,

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Speaker 6: but there will be there are some chocolates that have do.

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Speaker 5: There's a muffin mix that we have that it's like

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Speaker 5: a strawberry and blueberry muffins. We bought it when we

665
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Speaker 5: were shooting the film. And like the little actual berries,

666
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Speaker 5: like aren't actually made of fruit?

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Speaker 6: Are they berries?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are they?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So a good example of how I know it's

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Speaker 6: a dye. So we have die free marshmallows and like

673
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Speaker 6: the ingredients are exactly the same as the marshmallows that

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Speaker 6: have dyes. But if there we had an incident where

675
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Speaker 6: he consumed one many marshmallow. And this was before I

676
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Speaker 6: knew that white foods could have dye in it, And

677
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Speaker 6: so he ate one many marshmallow and I immediately flipped

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Speaker 6: it over and I looked at the ingredients and I

679
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Speaker 6: was like, blue one, why would there be a die

680
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Speaker 6: in this? And so like, I didn't tell his teacher

681
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Speaker 6: and it would be over twenty four hours later. So

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Speaker 6: I just sent him to school. And the teacher met

683
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Speaker 6: me outside on that day and she was like, We've

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Speaker 6: never had a.

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Speaker 11: Day like this.

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Speaker 6: He was he was defiant, he was throwing things, he

687
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Speaker 6: was throwing toys, he was marshmallow one many marshmallow. And

688
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Speaker 6: then to contrast that, I mean, we we are avid campers.

689
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Speaker 6: I love being outside, and something that we do is

690
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Speaker 6: we obviously do s'mores when we're camping, and so we

691
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Speaker 6: consume marshmallows and it has almost the exact same ingredients

692
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Speaker 6: other than you know, the blue one, and there's no

693
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Speaker 6: effect there. So for us, it's pretty obvious. And the

694
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Speaker 6: fact that we have had so many people reach out

695
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Speaker 6: to us and so many people that have had the

696
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Speaker 6: same experience, I mean that's pretty affirming for us.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where we are charting

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Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback. My name is Joeb,

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Speaker 1: vile and disgusting, there's actually a good chance that we'll

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Speaker 1: read it on this show, probably in this segment. But

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Speaker 1: I also want to let you know too on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: April eighth. So this coming Tuesday, Charlie's going to be

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Speaker 1: at the University of Illinois or Banish Champagne with a

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Speaker 1: special guest speakers yours Truly. I've been opening up these

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Speaker 1: tours with Charlie for Gus almost three years now. It's

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Speaker 1: super fun. It's always a blast. So if you're in

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Speaker 1: that area in Illinois, in the a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Illinois Red If you don't know this geographically, a lot

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Speaker 1: of Illinois. If you're in that red that red population

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Speaker 1: of Illinois, we'd love to see you at that event

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. And I think that's what we'll be broadcasting

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Speaker 1: here in this spot, in this time slot on Real

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Speaker 1: America's voice. So without further ado, it's flashback Friday. So

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Speaker 1: let me warn you. Let me warn you in case

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Speaker 1: you get offended easily which you're watching the show. I

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Speaker 1: highly doubt that this is a cartoon. It makes some

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Speaker 1: fun makes fun of some stereotypes that I thought was

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Speaker 1: very funny, and you know, considering that we're allowed to

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Speaker 1: laugh nowadays, I figured might as a little show it

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Speaker 1: to you. So now't get too offended at this. It's funny.

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Speaker 9: Watch This not only signals which way you're going to write,

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Speaker 9: it also announces it running lab, running lab, running right,

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Speaker 9: running right. It also works with women drivers.

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Speaker 11: Jenning right, no man right straight.

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Speaker 9: A hit and let these new bumpers were built with

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Speaker 9: pedestrians in mind, just let them try to get away.

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Speaker 9: Model has a glass bottom so that when you hit

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Speaker 9: a pedestrian you can look down and see if he

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Speaker 9: was a friend of yours. Here's something for you, younger

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Speaker 9: fellas an adjustable seat for that bashful day. Yes, whatever

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Speaker 9: the Indians go for. This classic convertible, this sport roadster

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Speaker 9: is very popular in China. This kang size station winning

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Speaker 9: will comfortably see every member of the entire.

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Speaker 1: Those are the video cut off right there by the way.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry not jipping you on anything.

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Speaker 3: This is funny.

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Speaker 1: Make it fun of stereotypes used to be okay, and

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Speaker 1: guess what it is again. And as a comedian, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate that because it gives me a lot of

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Speaker 1: material to work with. But anyways, that is going to

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Speaker 1: do it for us here at turning Point Tonight, have

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Speaker 1: a we can go outside, spend some time with family members,

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Speaker 1: loved ones. It'll be a fun time and we will

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Speaker 1: see you back same time, same place on Monday. And also,

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Speaker 1: if you're in the Illinois area and you want to

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Speaker 1: come see us at the University of Illinois banish champagne,

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Speaker 1: we will be there. Tickets at TPUSA dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can show up and have a good time with yours

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Speaker 1: truly and the one and only Charlie Kirk. We will

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Speaker 1: see you on Monday, same time, same place.

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Speaker 8: God bless America.

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Speaker 10: Okay, everybody, we are here with one of my mentors

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Speaker 10: and teachers, Doctor Larry.

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Speaker 11: Arn proud to be here with such a fine student.

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Speaker 10: Well, thank you, and I take learning seriously. Hillsdale College.

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Speaker 10: I say it every day on this program. It is

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Speaker 10: America's greatest college.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Well, I could almost be damning with faint praise. But

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Speaker 11: it is very good and it has a very powerful

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Speaker 11: sense of itself. It knows what it is for one

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Speaker 11: hundred and eighty years, and everybody there is committed to that.

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Speaker 11: That's why it's great.

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Speaker 10: It's great for many reasons also thanks to your leadership.

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Speaker 10: But speak about the is it the bylaws or the

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Speaker 10: constitution of the college is rather short, It's not a

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Speaker 10: big administrative document.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 11: From eighteen forty four. The people who started a Hillsdale

782
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Speaker 11: College were preachers on the frontier from New England, and

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Speaker 11: they were classically educated. You had to know Latin and

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Speaker 11: Greek to enter the college in eighteen forty four, and

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Speaker 11: they were patriotic, learned Americans. So the first the document

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Speaker 11: begins the nomination of Christian's notice, free will Baptist along

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Speaker 11: with other friends of education. Grateful to God for the

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Speaker 11: prevalence in the land of civil and religious freedom Seeelligent

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Speaker 11: Party believing sound learning is necessary to preserve these hereby

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Speaker 11: and now. So we exist to provide sound learning in

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Speaker 11: support of civil and religious freedom, which is America's gift

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Speaker 11: to the world, by the way, and God's gift to America,

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Speaker 11: and America's gift to the world and intelligent party. Those

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Speaker 11: are the purposes of Willstoe College.

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Speaker 10: What makes your college different than just the everyday college?

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Speaker 10: What if you were to walk around Hillsdale, which I have,

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Speaker 10: I sense it, I feel it. How do you do

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Speaker 10: this in practice differently?

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Speaker 11: Well? It, First of all, it's not part of the

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Speaker 11: national law of a system. Today. We don't take the

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Speaker 11: money from the government, which money carries several hundred pages

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Speaker 11: of rules that are impenetrable and difficult to even follow,

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Speaker 11: even to understand. So we don't have that. And then

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Speaker 11: what that liberates us to do is to form a college.

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Speaker 11: It's a word that means partnership. So the reason Hillsdale

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Speaker 11: gets on and proceeds is because to come to Hillsdale

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Speaker 11: College in any capacity, you must make a commitment to

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Speaker 11: the founding mission of the college. You must believe, you

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Speaker 11: must agree that the college has a right to pursue

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Speaker 11: the mission, and you will help. It doesn't mean you

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Speaker 11: can't argue with it. You can't argue about anything at

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Speaker 11: Hillsdale College. But you agree that the institution is formed

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Speaker 11: for these purposes and that is not to be obstructed.

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Speaker 11: And so that means that we you know, the first

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Speaker 11: line of Aristotle's politics is every community is formed for

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Speaker 11: the sake of some good. Right, Well, we have a

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Speaker 11: good that we're formed for and we follow it, and

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Speaker 11: that means we can cooperate. We can be a college.

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Speaker 11: And you know, it's it's you know, college is a

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Speaker 11: certain kind of thing, a very beautiful kind of thing,

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Speaker 11: and it's not for everybody, but for people who are

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Speaker 11: prepared to suffer to learn learn the best things. It's

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Speaker 11: great you you are such a person. By the way,

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Speaker 11: I have discovered the reason I get on with you

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Speaker 11: that you know, you know it takes work. You have

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Speaker 11: to change your mental weather, you have to forget about

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Speaker 11: yourself to learn the best things you have to. Now,

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Speaker 11: I'm going to read this book, and the question on

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Speaker 11: my mind is not what do I think about it?

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Speaker 1: Yet?

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Speaker 11: The question on my mind is not does do I

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Speaker 11: agree with it? Yet? The question is what does this

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Speaker 11: say and what does it mean? And then that's first,

834
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Speaker 11: and then after that is it true? Is it good?

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Speaker 11: So that's college, right, and you learn to do that,

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Speaker 11: and you learn to do that in the humanities and

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Speaker 11: in the natural sciences, and it's a wonderful activity. And

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Speaker 11: it's difficult.

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Speaker 10: What is education?

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Speaker 11: It comes from a Latin word that means to lead forth,

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Speaker 11: and that means education is the process of our helping

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Speaker 11: the young go forward in the way that they are

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Speaker 11: made to go. The Bible says, trying up the child

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Speaker 11: in the ways he's meant to go, right, that's what forget,

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Speaker 11: that's what it means. And and you know, you learn

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Speaker 11: we're freedom guys, you and me. And the truth of

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00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 11: human freedom is profoundly revealed in college, in the daily

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Speaker 11: operations in every class. By this fact, you can't learn

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Speaker 11: for them, You can only help them. They have to

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00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 11: want to. And so you know, the first task when we,

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Speaker 11: you know, take every human achievement. Like you have built

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Speaker 11: turning point. I've walked around today for the first time.

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00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 11: It's very impressive. And it is the product of two

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00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 11: things that are that are the cause of every human achievement.

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Speaker 11: You are able, and you are willing, and you urgently

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Speaker 11: want to do it, and you can do it, and

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Speaker 11: this is your thing. Right now, everybody I've met here

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Speaker 11: and some dozens are also willing and able. Everybody's a volunteer.

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Speaker 11: That's why it works.

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Speaker 10: So now that we've defined what education is, and we

861
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 10: could talk at length about how incredible Hillsdale is, let's

862
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 10: talk about the Department of Education. Yeah, it should not

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Speaker 10: even exist.

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Speaker 11: Now it's a bad idea. Why Well, first of all,

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Speaker 11: there are many reasons, but the first starts with the

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Speaker 11: nature of education. Now I'll start with the constitutional reason first,

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Speaker 11: because it's actually very important, but it's not the most important.

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Speaker 11: The Constitution the United States lists seventeen things if I

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Speaker 11: remember the number of paragraphs, right, that's a federal government

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Speaker 11: may pursue in Article one, Section eight of the Constitution,

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Speaker 11: and education is out among them.

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Speaker 10: Well, says general welfare. That's what they're always go ahead.

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Speaker 11: Well, not there, it doesn't. Well it does actually at

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Speaker 11: the beginning of Article one, sex and eight. But if

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Speaker 11: the general welfare clause meant that, then the rest of

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Speaker 11: Article one Sex eight would be redundant.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 11: So, yet, in the summer that they were writing Constitution

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Speaker 11: United States, they were passing the Northwest Ordinance, which is

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Speaker 11: one of the four organic laws of the United States,

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Speaker 11: and it gave.

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Speaker 12: Sixty fourth of the western lands in the Northwest Territory

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Speaker 12: reserved for only one public purpose, education in each township.

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Speaker 11: Now that meant that the federal government and the biggest

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Speaker 11: d as set had ever owned, supported education through the states.

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Speaker 11: That's the constitutional arrangement