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Speaker 1: Every day I wake up, I'm one day closer to death.

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Speaker 1: So what you're gonna do with the time you got left?

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Speaker 2: Big Time Brand nominee Big Shan.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest blessings is going through a time

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Speaker 3: What's the difference between attracting energy and chasing energy?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy? The number one health and wellness podcast.

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Speaker 3: Jay Setty Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose,

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Speaker 3: the place you come to become a happier, healthier and

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Speaker 3: more healed. Three things that are so important to the

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Speaker 3: human condition. Today's guest is on for not the first,

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Speaker 3: not the second, but a third time special. One of

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Speaker 3: your favorite guests, one of your favorite interactions. We both

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Speaker 3: hear about it all the time. I'm talking about my

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Speaker 3: dear friend and incredible artist, Big Sean, Grammy nominated rapper songwriter,

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Speaker 3: friend of the podcast, and now a first time author.

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Speaker 3: His new book is called Go Higher, The Five Practices

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Speaker 3: for Purpose, Success and Inner Piece, which combines his insights

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Speaker 3: on self care with actionable Tools, set to release in

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Speaker 3: January twenty twenty five. Now, despite his achievements, he has

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Speaker 3: been open about his struggles with anxiety and depression, turning

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Speaker 3: to spiritual practices to find balance. Through his music and

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Speaker 3: now he's writing Big Sean inspires others to overcome their

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Speaker 3: own challenges and reach their fullest potential. Please welcome my

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Speaker 3: dear friend, someone that I believe is so inspiring, deeply insightful, philosophical,

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Speaker 3: a guide, the teacher and leader, Big.

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Speaker 2: Sean man other. Thank you for having me. You know.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I just got to say, j though,

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Speaker 1: Of you man, even since our first interview, Like, of

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Speaker 1: course you did you spark the idea of me writing

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: You've interviewed the President. Man, You've like you have gone

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Speaker 1: and you know, like that that space is dominated by

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Speaker 1: a certain crowd. Bro, you are dominating this space, and

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Speaker 1: I just got to say it's it's deeper than that.

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Speaker 1: It's wellness, it's all of it. And I just got

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Speaker 1: to say I'm super proud of you, man, like, very

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Speaker 1: very proud of you. I know, like where you come from,

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Speaker 1: I know your journey, I know how you grew up,

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Speaker 1: I just got to say, man, I'm very proud of you,

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Speaker 1: and I see, I see like so much for you,

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much, man, oh man.

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Speaker 3: Is mutual, And honestly, it was people like yourself who

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Speaker 3: came on the show when it was so much smaller,

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Speaker 3: we were starting out. But it was people like yourself

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Speaker 2: And look at this, Come.

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Speaker 3: On, yeah, that's rather He's genius. She's super smart when

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Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you for putting this book together

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Speaker 3: because when I met you, I noticed very quickly that

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Speaker 1: One of the things about success is you have to

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Speaker 1: that is something hard, and you have to separate, like

436
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: that said, that power of separation, of doing what you

437
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: love to do and not tie it into how people

438
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: perceive it.

439
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Those are two separate.

440
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: Things, which is so hard, so hard, And I loved

441
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: what you said that when you get fixated on what

442
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: other people think of you, you're just getting distracted from

443
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 3: your path. Of course, now you're placing it on and

444
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: then you might even shift what you're doing to try

445
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: and a pease them, and then they still won't like it.

446
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: And that's the craziest part, right, You do what you

447
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: want and they don't like it, and then you do

448
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 3: what they want and they still don't like it, and

449
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: then you don't know who you are anymore, and no

450
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: one likes it and you don't like it either, and

451
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: you end up not liking yourself trying to get everyone

452
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: else to like you. That's where you don't want to

453
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: be at, and that's where you don't want to be at.

454
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: And then you're kind of like back to a square one,

455
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, position of like okay, having to re establish

456
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: yourself and you know you got to be right with

457
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: yourself first. So you nailed it right on the head. Man,

458
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: It's like, you know you can't, you can't really do

459
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: you live your life for other people. I always say

460
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: that's a business you'll never be successful at, as the

461
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: business of trying to please everyone, and then when you

462
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: do please everyone, it's like, are you pleasing yourself?

463
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 3: It's a hard it's a hard lesson as well for people,

464
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: because we will naturally want to make the people around

465
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 3: us happy. And our childhood has so much to do

466
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: with that. You know. We were speaking a bit earlier

467
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: and I was talking about how like I was the

468
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: peacemaker in my family, I was the mediator. Yeah, I

469
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: was the young one as a ten year old, wow,

470
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: And so I was always trying to keep the peace

471
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: and listen to people and understand them and understand what

472
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: was going on. And so I always had to read

473
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: in between the lines and I always had to have

474
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: a great sense of when something was going to kick

475
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: off and how did And I wasn't trying to make

476
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: peace in the sense of like everyone's just got to

477
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: get along. I was always trying to get to the

478
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 3: root of it and go what healings needed here? And

479
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just always did that.

480
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know what's special about that, man,

481
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: is that I think that we choose our parents before

482
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think as spirits we choose our parents.

483
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: This's is what I believe, right, It's just a concept

484
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: that I believe. And some people be like, well that's

485
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: I was in a family where it wasn't easy this

486
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: and I would have never chosen that.

487
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: But you don't understand that.

488
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, to be one the billion of sperm that

489
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: make it into the egg and come sensual life, you

490
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: really fought to be in this world, right, And I

491
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: truly believe that God doesn't give you what you want.

492
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: God gives you what you need first and foremost, and

493
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: you don't know how the development. There are some people

494
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: who need a nurturing family that's perfect, right, And then

495
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: there are some people who actually learn maybe even more and.

496
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: Become more of a.

497
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: Positive force for the world to change it by learning

498
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: of what not to do from their parents directly all

499
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: the time or not all the time, but like in

500
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: certain situations, you know.

501
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: So I just think.

502
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: That you know, you being the mediator you were, You

503
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: were on a course you were learning at such a

504
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: young age of things to apply or what not to

505
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: apply to your marriage. And the fact that you were that,

506
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: because we talked about it off camera, the fact that

507
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: you were a mediator, the fact that you were that

508
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: for your family at such a young age, it's just

509
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: incredible because look at the path that has led you to. Man,

510
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: you're impacting everybody. Man, You're impacting like the world you know,

511
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: and me and families, and you're really changing it with

512
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: like the person you are in the heart that you

513
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: have have you know.

514
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: So wow, I'm just I just got to pay my

515
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: respect to you.

516
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: No, you're too kind. Man. I got lucky. I met

517
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 3: good men. I feel like important people we've talked about

518
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: in previous interviews. When you've come on about your mother's

519
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: role in your life, Oh and how pivotal she was

520
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 3: and for me, my monk teachers. You met Ratherandswami when

521
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: he came to my him over a couple of years back,

522
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: and you met him, and meeting him was so pivotal

523
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 3: to my whole spiritual journey. I was going to ask

524
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: him and talk about kids picking their parents. Noah picked you.

525
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did talk.

526
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 3: To us about how fatherhood has transformed your views on

527
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: the learning experience, of what you've learned from fatherhood that

528
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: you couldn't have learned from anything else.

529
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: Well, when you have a kid and you see them

530
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: and they look like you, and they look like their mom,

531
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: you see that they smile like you, or smile like

532
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: her or how you know, you see all these things

533
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: and you realize, okay, and then they kind of look

534
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: like my brother, and they kind of look like her

535
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: granddad and her you know, all these different family members, right,

536
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, this is really crazy, and he'll do

537
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: something that is like reminiscent of what you used to do.

538
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: Right.

539
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: So then I realized that, Okay, the DNA is like

540
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: a computer. It's information that gets passed on on and

541
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: on and on, right, So you're really the culmination of

542
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: a whole lineage, right and in you. So one of

543
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: the things that I learned from him, because there are

544
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: times in my life where I'm like, man, I wish

545
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: I could talk to my grandma. You know, my grandma

546
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: was a female black captain in World War two.

547
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: Man, she was crazy.

548
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: She was incredible, and like or my granddad they met

549
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: in World War two, right, or like I wish I

550
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: could like I'll be like, man, I wish I could

551
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: like speak to them or like get advice from them. Now,

552
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, I only known them as a little kid.

553
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: And then I realized that the information is already in me.

554
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: All I have to do is just go deeper within

555
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: and really connect with that. And that's something that I

556
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: learned from my son being born. Somehow that clicked. Is

557
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: like he is the culmination of our lineage, all the

558
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: DNA from my side, from his mom's side and so

559
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: on and so forth, and he's got he's got something

560
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: special going on. So that's one thing I learned. And

561
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: another thing I learned is to go back to the

562
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: simplistic beauties of life. When we're on walks out in nature.

563
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: He's so fascinated with like the flowers and the birds

564
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: and like just like oh this or that or bug

565
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: b you know, he's like and it just given me

566
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: a whole new excitement for that. Yeah, And I really

567
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: appreciate him for teaching me. I feel like he's teaching

568
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: me as much as we teach him. I feel like

569
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: he's teaching all of us a lot as well. And

570
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: he's also teaching all of us that, like, hey, we

571
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: can be happy right now. He's like, even if he's

572
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: like distraught or something, he'll go do something be happy

573
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: right there.

574
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, chooses it. And I love that.

575
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: Man. I'm so glad I ask you asked you that

576
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: question because I knew you'd have such a deep answer

577
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 3: for it, like your answer. The first part of it,

578
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: the idea that your child has all of that within

579
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: Like you were just saying you wish you could talk

580
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: to your grandparents, which I wish I could interview your grandparents.

581
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds like a phenomenal you journey and

582
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: story to hear about it, And I want to know

583
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: how much more you know about what they did or

584
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: how much you don't. But I love the idea that

585
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: we actually have it encapsulated within us. It gets coded

586
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: in us, it is and even if we're unaware of it.

587
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: And I was talking to a researcher the other day.

588
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: I was doing some research for my next book, and

589
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: she was talking to me. We were finding this research

590
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: that was talking about how when kids are told their

591
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: ancestral stories, they have a much deeper sense of belonging.

592
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: And so the reason why so many of us feel

593
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: so lost today is we've never been told deep stories

594
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: about where our parents come from, where our grandparents come from,

595
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: what they went through, not in a way to make

596
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: us feel like a victim or a feel at a disadvantage,

597
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: but to hear a story from the perspective of this

598
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: is your heritage, and then you feel like you belong

599
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: to something so much more, bigger and beyond you, whereas

600
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: most of us are just like, oh, yeah, I'm from

601
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: West Hollywood or whatever. Right, it's such a like you know,

602
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: it's like a temporary residence, it is, but like when

603
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 3: you know you belong to something eternal. Like I was

604
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: talking to the research I was saying that in my life,

605
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: the things that have helped me the most when I'm

606
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: going through a tough time, a difficult time, a real low,

607
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: is recognizing that I'm part of a five thousand year

608
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: old tradition. So when I'm repeating the geta, which is

609
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: a five thousand year old scripture, which is the text

610
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: I learned as a monk. When I realize I'm connected

611
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: to that lineage, I feel unstoppable because I'm like that

612
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: survived for five thousand years. I'm going to be all right.

613
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be okay, right. Whereas when you just think like, oh, man,

614
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, I've just been on the planet for like

615
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: that years and I'm trying to figure it out, it

616
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: can feel quite uncomfortable. And so I love what you're

617
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: saying that actually, inside your son Noah, there is the coding. Yeah,

618
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: all his grandparents.

619
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: It is, and all of us. It's like time traveling.

620
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: People always try and figure out how to preserve themselves.

621
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, the expression, oh I'm living through my kids

622
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: or I'm living that's real. I've realized how much power

623
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: these simple expressions have communication can save a nation, or

624
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: like you know, but like, yeah, I really feel like

625
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: we always try and think like, oh, there's not enough time,

626
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: there's not enough time. There's a real, real, real truth

627
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: to I'm living through my kids or whoever or whoever

628
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: you choose to I don't even think it has to

629
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: be your kids. I think that your blood, your lineage,

630
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: it's like you really are you really do time travel?

631
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, a thousand years from night. There may be

632
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: some descendants that look like us, you know, or like slight.

633
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, you'd be like, oh, you know, I look

634
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: like my dad's dad, you do. Yeah, I've never met him,

635
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, he unfortunately passed, you know, when I was

636
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: super little.

637
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: I never even met him. But he's a part of

638
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: me too.

639
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's also why it's important to work

640
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: on yourself and to heal certain traumatic experiences because with

641
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: all this information we pass on, you also pass.

642
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: On the good and the bad, you know what I mean?

643
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: So said, you know, you heal things health wise, and

644
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: you heal things traumatic wise, you know, or trauma wise,

645
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: and you know, it's really important to work on yourself physically, mentally, emotionally,

646
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: and spiritually because you pass on all of that as well.

647
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, man, I mean that's what's so interesting, right,

648
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: Like within you you have the coding of the greatness, yeah,

649
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: and the heritage and you the coding of the unhealed

650
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: generational trauma that keeps being passed down. What was what

651
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: was something you had to look at in your background

652
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: and past generationally traumatically that wasn't healed that. You were like,

653
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm not going to pass this to Noah, like this

654
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: has to stop this time.

655
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: Oh so many things, so many like uh, worry one thing.

656
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: I used to worry so much create all of these

657
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: scenarios in my head. And I think that's like a

658
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: double edged sword. You know, when you have an imagination

659
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: in your creative you create right, so you can create good.

660
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: You could create bad, but.

661
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: They're they're one of the experience of life has taught

662
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: me it to never worry. No matter what, You're gonna

663
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: be fine, you know. I think one of my biggest

664
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: fears used to be, like, what if I lose everything right,

665
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: and what if I have to go back to, you know,

666
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: growing up in Detroit and the hood blah blah blah

667
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: and I and then it's.

668
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Just like, well I was I could.

669
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: I was happy there too, Like I shouldn't be scared

670
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: to lose any of this stuff because this stuff is conditional,

671
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm.

672
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: Gonna be good wherever I'm at.

673
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: I remember when I talked to side Googu, I was like,

674
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: where's your favorite place in the world. He's like, wherever

675
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm at and I was like, damn, you know, so

676
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to that that like that's

677
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: one of the things I don't want to pass.

678
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: On to him. It's like, you never have to worry,

679
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: you know.

680
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, you could, you could be fueled, you could

681
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: let something inspire you to be greater, you could let

682
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: something light a fire under you. But like, don't ever

683
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: worry because you have what it takes to to get

684
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: to wherever you got to get to, you know.

685
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how do you kind of imprint that in

686
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 3: a young child?

687
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: Like how do you you do you imprint that in

688
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: a young child by building up his confidence? And that's

689
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: one of the things I love about my boy is

690
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: like he's so confident. He's like, you know, I never am.

691
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: Like that's something that I want to keep feeding him.

692
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: Even on the song I wrote about him on my album,

693
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: I said, I see my inner child in him, instilled

694
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: the remnants. Will he lose it to the world as

695
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: an imminent or is it something that me and his

696
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: mom have instilled in him? And the confidence you lose

697
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: you could build again. It's like yeah, and like I

698
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: just want to water that. I think that when I

699
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: was a kid, my mom and my dad came up

700
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: in like a civil rights moment in the country. Like

701
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: my mom had to drink from like a different water fountain.

702
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: You know, my family has been through a lot. My

703
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: mom's great aunt, who was like an old woman. My

704
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: mom will go visit her in North Carolina, was born

705
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: a slave. So that just goes to show you how

706
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: close that that lineage is.

707
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: Too right.

708
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: It's like it kind of feels like it's so far away,

709
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: but it's not. She was an old woman and my

710
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: mom was a baby. But my mom is alive now,

711
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: so the connection of that is like few and far between.

712
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: My point being is that my mom and my.

713
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: Dad did the best that they could, but they can

714
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: from an era where they had to really be don't

715
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: be too loud, be controlled, don't do but get out

716
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: of line.

717
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: Like you know, my mom would be like when.

718
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: You get pulled over, like make sure your hat is off,

719
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: and like you they see you faith and you be

720
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: respectful and and I think there was a lot to that,

721
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: but it was it was coming from a little bit

722
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: of a fear based place sometimes. And that's something that

723
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I've recognized and that's something that my mom has helped

724
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: me recognize too through all of the knowledge she's.

725
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 2: Given me and my dad.

726
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: But like one of the things I want to pass

727
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: on to him is that like, be confident in who

728
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: you are because you have what it takes. He has

729
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: you get to already tell you has a great heart,

730
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: He has a great spirit. He loves making trying to

731
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: make people laugh, you know, not even at two years old.

732
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: He was like before, like one year old, like telling

733
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, trying to like make you smile. And it's

734
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: just like I just want to keep water in that

735
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: confidence in him, you know.

736
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And that confidence kind of talks nicely to

737
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: the second practice. In your book, you talk about strategizing. Yeah, strategizing,

738
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: And I love that you went there because I think

739
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: a lot of people see spirituality and strategy as opposite, opposite,

740
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: or they separate them, right, And I know we've always

741
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: vibed on the fact that to me, they go hand

742
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: in hand absolutely, because strategy is just intentionality in action, right,

743
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: Like That's that's.

744
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: What it is. Strategy is intentionality and action, right.

745
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have intention and then you get activated around

746
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: an intention and that's how you strategize. But I think

747
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: often people think strategy has to be conniving or like

748
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: some sort of manipulation. But that's not what you mean.

749
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: So when you say we need to get strategic, how

750
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: do we build the skill of becoming strategic? And what

751
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: does it mean?

752
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, I think you recognize, like you said, is just

753
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: some strategy.

754
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: To me, is the key to.

755
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Getting is one of the keys to move from where

756
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: you are to where you have to be because you

757
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: identify where you desire to be. Because you identify so

758
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: much and you get to you get to research, you

759
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: get to.

760
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: Plot and plan. Nothing. You know, nothing.

761
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: That is really amazing in life is doesn't come without

762
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: a plan, you know what I mean. There are a

763
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: lot of spontaneous things, and I do believe in the

764
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: energy of spontaneity and like, but strategizing, to me, is

765
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: so important and there's so many ways to do it.

766
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: You know, you could like study someone from Afar.

767
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of one of the beauties of the Internet

768
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: is like you can kind of study and know someone

769
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: you really respect. Or you may have someone in your family,

770
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: or you may have someone in your neighborhood, or you

771
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: may have someone but even say someone from across the

772
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: world that you really respect. You can study a lot

773
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: of their what they have put out in the world,

774
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's all you need. There have been times

775
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: where or when you get to know someone fully, you

776
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: might get let down a little bit. It's like because

777
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: you have all these expectations and you meet them and

778
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like, wait, what you know? But I think there

779
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: comes again the power of separation, like you got to

780
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: separate that and you know.

781
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: So I know I'm talking a lot, but good.

782
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that, like strategizing is a real

783
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: key to happiness, you know, and strategy it doesn't have

784
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: to be like a deep thing. Strategizing could just be

785
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: as simple as writing your intentions down, strategizing your day.

786
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: How are you going to approach this?

787
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: I always like, before I get into a studio session

788
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: or anything, I always like meditate and I write down

789
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: what I would like to experience in the session, you know,

790
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: what would I like to get done, how would that feel?

791
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: And I kind of lock onto that feeling before I

792
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: go and do do what I gotta do.

793
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad that you pointed out that strategizing it

794
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: starts with studying, because then it becomes you study something

795
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: and then you apply it, and that's what strategy is

796
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: you study it first and then you apply it. And

797
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: I was thinking about it as you were saying, like

798
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: strategizing your day. I was thinking about if you think

799
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: about New York, it's a grid system. That's a strategy.

800
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: It's a strategy, like that's what it is. If you

801
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: look at if you travel to Europe, you'll see there

802
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: was a strategy in how towns were built where like

803
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: the church would be in the middle of the town,

804
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: it'd be a river flowing through the middle, there'd be

805
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: a bridge over the river. There was a strategy and

806
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: how it was built in order to create an experience

807
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: of the city. And I feel, you know, that's what

808
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: it is. It's thinking about your life and thinking what

809
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: are the pillars and priorities in my life, Like what

810
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: are the things that are like almost like building a

811
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 3: city exactly right, He goes, Okay, well, a city needs

812
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: a fire station because sometimes there's going to be a fire.

813
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: It needs a school because I need to learn. It

814
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: needs a hospital because sometimes you're going to get ill.

815
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: Like what does a city need? And you've got to

816
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: look at your life in the same way and go

817
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: what is my life life need?

818
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's exactly what your life needs. A structure,

819
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, when you feel like you're all over the

820
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: place and things aren't happening, sometimes you just need a

821
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: little bit of structure and strategy to jump started and

822
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: build the foundation to build on, you know.

823
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: So that's a perfect analogy.

824
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the best strategy you ever built to

825
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: achieve something in your life? What example would you give

826
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: from your own journey? When were you most strategic effectively?

827
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: There have been times where I was very strategic in

828
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: times where I wasn't. And one of the times in

829
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: my life where strategy really helped out was just like

830
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: I would say, securing my first record deal. I always

831
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: knew I would get a record deal. I would talk

832
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: about it frequently with my friends in eighth grade. I

833
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: would talk about when I A when I sell out,

834
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: the this, the this, when I was, when I sell

835
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: out the Palace Auvary Hill, all these things that I

836
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: did ended up doing later. I just knew it was

837
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: going to happen. I just didn't know how. And we

838
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: all know that you can make plans and God laughs

839
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: at it. But I really feel like when your heart's

840
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: in the right place and you have the intentions and

841
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: you put a little bit of strategy to it.

842
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Okay.

843
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Like one of the things that I've always wanted to

844
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: do is like, Okay, how can I get on the radio?

845
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: You know? How can I be?

846
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: How can I how can I be on the radio.

847
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: Then I, you know, did some homework and my friend, oh,

848
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: there's a radio show where you can battle rap and

849
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: end up wrapping on the radio, you know, and people, Okay,

850
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: that's a way to get on the radio. So how

851
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: do I get down there?

852
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: Okay?

853
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: Oh so I need a ride down there. I would

854
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: like plan out every aspect. I need to make sure

855
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: I have a ride to get to the radio station to.

856
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: Be able to battle rap.

857
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I need to plan I need to write a

858
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: rap for the when I get on the radio, so

859
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: I have something to wrap over, you know. And so

860
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: it's like you strategize every aspect of it and it

861
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: can be fun. It doesn't have to feel like homework.

862
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: It don't got to feel like school work. None of

863
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: us want to do more work. In fact, when you strategize,

864
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: you probably are emanating a lot of work, a lot

865
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: more work. Don't get full thinking that like you're getting

866
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: ahead by not doing the work. I'm telling you, when

867
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: you strategize and plan things out, you're eliminating hours of work.

868
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: So that is the reason. You know, a lot of

869
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: us may not have time to read this book. You

870
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 1: think like, I don't have time to read a book.

871
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you like reading a book, not just my book,

872
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: but a book that impacts you saves time.

873
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: It doesn't take time.

874
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: Oh I'm so glad you said that, because yeah, that's

875
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: all it does. All it does when you're learning, all

876
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: it does is saved time. It stops you from making mistakes.

877
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: It helps you avoid the ones that someone else made

878
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 3: before you. You probably make some new mistakes, for sure, Yeah,

879
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: but you'll avoid so many. And I loved what you

880
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: said the way you broke it down, like, ultimately, strategizing

881
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: is building steps to that goal, and you're trying to

882
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: break it down to the step that I can do

883
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: today and now. Yes, that is small and easy all

884
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: the way up. And I love the way you work

885
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: backwards where it's like, all right, I want to be

886
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: on the radio. Yeah, all right, let me break that

887
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: down way a minute. That means I need to go this.

888
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: That means I need to do this. That means first

889
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: I need to do this. Okay, that means right now,

890
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: I just need to do this. Yeah, And I think

891
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: sometimes we live on level twenty one of where we

892
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: want to go, but then we haven't got the elevated

893
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: down to level zero to go up, right, Like we

894
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: just mind is in level twenty.

895
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: One and we get mad that we're not on level

896
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: twenty one. And I'm a victim of that, And I

897
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: think that you know, I've gone through experience. I'm not

898
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: a victim. I have done that before. I've experienced that,

899
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: so I know how frustrating it could be. But don't

900
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: let it stress you unless you let it unless it's

901
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: you stress. There's distress, and then there's you stress, and

902
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: that you stress can motivate you. It really can't. It

903
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: could light a fire under you. Go through a distress

904
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: can kind of weigh you down. So you have the

905
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: power to take any aspect, even depression, and let it

906
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: either or weigh you down or let it fuel you,

907
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, yeah, I think that

908
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of people frustrated. I get frustrated. Still,

909
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm nowhere near perfect. I'm not talking to you as

910
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: an expert in any way. Shape or form. I'm literally

911
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: talking to you as a reflection of you and someone

912
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: who has gone through these experiences and have just like

913
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: and given the game that I've learned, you know, and

914
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: straight black and white and examples of how I've done it,

915
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: you know.

916
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, for sure, you've gave us an idea of

917
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: when you were strategic, what was the time when you

918
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: hat it right?

919
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: So there are times where yeah, I've let things go,

920
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: I didn't strategize, Like there's always things you haven't thought

921
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: about that you got to come back to later, like

922
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: when I had to fell out with some family members,

923
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: like even my mom. My relationship got tainted for a

924
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: long time and it was like I was not calling her,

925
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: I was not checking in, I wasn't doing anything that

926
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: a sun and now having a son, I really feel

927
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: the depth of that, you.

928
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

929
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: And I could have strategized that better, you know what

930
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean? I could have strategized a lot of things better,

931
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: and you always have twenty twenty in hindsight.

932
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: Totally, totally, totally no, And I agree. It's just good

933
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: to know because yeah, it's the same for me. And

934
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: I love how you said that strategy is also sometimes

935
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: with people, you know, like we say the wrong thing

936
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: at the wrong time. Well, you say the right thing

937
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: but at the wrong time, or you say the right

938
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: thing but in the wrong way, or you say the

939
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: right thing but in the wrong place, or you say

940
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: the right thing and you know, to the wrong person.

941
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: Right.

942
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it has to be strategic because otherwise

943
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 3: it's not digested. We just think as long as I'm

944
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: saying the right thing, everything will be okay. Yeah, But

945
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: if you say the right thing in the wrong place

946
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: to the wrong person at the wrong time and the

947
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: wrong way, with the wrong word the wrong language, it

948
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: doesn't matter how true the thing you said was right.

949
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: And that's what strategy is, is going Wait, how do

950
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: I make sure this lens?

951
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: Wow?

952
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: Like what is it? What is required for this to

953
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: actually have an impact on someone and to serve them

954
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: and help them.

955
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what we're here to do, is to

956
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: serve in every aspect. It's always comes down to being

957
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: of service, you know, in anything we put out there,

958
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: in any interview, in any book, in any song, it's

959
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: really of service to whatever the moment it relates to,

960
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, and that yeah,

961
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: you're right saying the right thing to the wrong. And

962
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: the thing is, you're kind of the only one who

963
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: can dictate, you know, right and wrong. It's so opinionated

964
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: depending on who you talk to. Sure, you know, there

965
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who think that, you know,

966
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: any anything that we could think is wrong. Somebody could

967
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: argue how it's right, you know, even down to black

968
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: and white. Somebody can argue that this text that says

969
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: the exact same thing means this thing, and or this

970
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: means that thing.

971
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: You know.

972
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: So I think it's important to come from a place

973
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: of understanding. And this leads to something else I want

974
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: to talk about, because just because you understand something doesn't

975
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: mean you have to accept it just because you understand it,

976
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: And that's something that I had to learn the hard way.

977
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I thought that I was being this spiritual guy by

978
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: if I get into a disagreement with someone understanding where

979
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: they come from and then ultimately turns to me not

980
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: respecting myself because I'll understand where they're coming from and

981
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I get it. But the fact that

982
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: I still get it it doesn't mean that I can't

983
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: express myself and I'm not valid. So I want to

984
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: make sure that everyone knows that because I think that

985
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: that was something that I learned, is to set boundaries.

986
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: And that's like that big B word. That's like the

987
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: biggest B word there is is boundaries that I've learned

988
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: this year, and like that has really really really changed

989
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: a lot of tynamics with people and change a lot

990
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: of It's really created a lot of happiness in my life.

991
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: Why did boundaries become so prominent in the last year,

992
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: As you said.

993
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: I think I was trying to be a hero in

994
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: every situation I was in. I'm some empathetic person, so

995
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: I love to I really can feel when people are

996
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: going through something, even when the world is going through something.

997
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: It's like I kind of really have to like really

998
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: protect myself energetically because I take on a lot of

999
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: people's problems. You know what I'm saying, I can't help it,

1000
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: and it's not a good I don't look at it

1001
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: as a bad thing.

1002
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: I just look at it as how I am.

1003
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1004
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: Do I wish sometimes that I could just cut things off? Yeah,

1005
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: but it had taught me that I can. I just

1006
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: have to set boundaries on what I can and can't accept.

1007
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: And this year.

1008
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of things that I was

1009
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: tired of feeling uncomfortable in certain situations.

1010
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: I was tired of letting people walk all over me.

1011
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: And just because I understood or I get it, I'm

1012
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: not respecting myself. And I didn't realize that I wasn't

1013
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: respecting myself in that. You know, there are times where yeah,

1014
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: I need to I can't go to this thing, I

1015
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: can't do this or you know what, I can't go here.

1016
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: I can't go to Dubai and do this show because

1017
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: I have to be here for my son. I got

1018
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: to take my son trick or treating. You know, I

1019
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: had to say some of those boundaries that may have

1020
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: cost me one.

1021
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: Thing, but I gained another.

1022
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: And one of the most important things I gained back

1023
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: from setting boundaries is the trust in myself, you know,

1024
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: the confidence that I feel like I have been building

1025
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: up so yes for so long.

1026
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think we're scared of setting boundaries because

1027
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: we are scared of what we lose when we do.

1028
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: It could be fomo, it could be you know, the

1029
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 3: fear of becoming irrelevant, the fear of becoming insignificant.

1030
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: The fear of losing a person the.

1031
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: Fear of losing a person. But I learned that too.

1032
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: I remember a time in my life where I had

1033
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: so much passion fatigue where I just felt like I

1034
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: was there for everyone else, but I had no And

1035
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: when I say income, I don't mean financially, I mean

1036
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: there was no energy income coming in.

1037
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: And you were just a piece of you. You were

1038
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: just a part of you at that point, exactly.

1039
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: And you're just and it's what you just said. You're

1040
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: trying to be a superhero and you're trying to be

1041
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: the guy, not in an egotistic way, you actually just

1042
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: care about people for real. But I realized very very

1043
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: quickly at that time that unless I was full, rested, complete,

1044
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: you know, I wasn't actually able to help anyone. I

1045
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: was just giving people my leftovers, yeah, and not the

1046
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: best of myself.

1047
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: And I would enjoy it. And you got to enjoy

1048
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: your life too.

1049
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: Totally totally, And I just found that what really helped

1050
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: me was remembering that I didn't have enough to give

1051
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: anyone else if I wasn't in a good place myself period.

1052
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: And that didn't mean I wanted to get to a

1053
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: good place just for myself. The reason I wanted to

1054
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: get to a good place is so I could give

1055
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: more good to others, and therefore there had to be

1056
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: a structure. They had to be an order of all. Right, well,

1057
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: I need to take care of myself. I need to

1058
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 3: be full, I need to be ready, and then I

1059
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 3: can extend myself. But if I keep extending myself to

1060
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: everyone else, chances are I get bitter at them. I'll

1061
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: get mad at myself, and then I want have anything

1062
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: to give. Yes, that's right, right, yeah, And it's an

1063
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 3: interesting one. Boundaries because I feel like I think we

1064
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: also think we set boundaries for other people, but we

1065
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 3: do it for ourselves.

1066
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 2: We do it for ourselves because people.

1067
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: Always be like, this person keeps breaking my boundaries, and

1068
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, no, you keep breaking your.

1069
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: Boundaries exactly right, No, Yes, it's you know, it's like

1070
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: the boundaries forgiveness. They're not just there for you. You know,

1071
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: forgiveness is for you as well, and boundaries are for

1072
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: you as well. Yeah, it's been tough. I think that

1073
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: I grew up letting people walk all over me. I

1074
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: think I grew up by letting people take advantage of

1075
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: me straight up, you know, just to be real and

1076
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: I saw that in my parents, especially my dad. He

1077
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: would let people take advantage of him. He was a

1078
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: very nice guy. And there's nothing like I said right

1079
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: or wrong. It's an opinion, you know, It's just a perspective.

1080
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not criticizing him or saying he was wrong

1081
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: in any way. It's just the kind, spirited hearted person

1082
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: he is. But along with that, you do have to

1083
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: set your boundaries and respect who you are because you

1084
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: will lose a sense of yourself by trying to take

1085
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: care of everyone else. You will lose a sense of

1086
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: yourself if you don't set these boundaries, you will lose

1087
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: the sense of yourself if you don't take the time

1088
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: out to keep connecting with yourself, even if it's something

1089
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: you love. I lost like the passion of like watching anime.

1090
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: I remember why I was working so hard. It's like

1091
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: I hadn't sat and watched anime. I love watching anime.

1092
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I love Dragon ball Z, I love like my hero

1093
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Academia and Demon Slayer and even Galiens and all these things,

1094
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: and that's just one thing that I love. Right, So

1095
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: it's like I have to take time out to do

1096
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: that because it is really important to me. Yeah, so

1097
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: I know all of us have demands, some of us

1098
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: have family, some of us work two jobs, three jobs,

1099
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: some of us. And you say it's impossible. What I'm

1100
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: telling you, if you make that time, you will create

1101
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: more time to be the better version of yourself in

1102
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: any of those situations.

1103
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: I promise you.

1104
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The other thing that really helped me

1105
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,959
Speaker 3: as a boundary. And this doesn't apply if something's life

1106
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: threatening or urgent, but some of them, someone would call

1107
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: me up and be like, oh, I had to fight

1108
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: with my wife, to fight with my husband, and my

1109
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: natural inclination was to fix it. So like, yeah, let's

1110
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: jump on the phone. I'm going to help you through

1111
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: it right.

1112
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: Now, because that's how you wear as a ten year.

1113
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: Old, because that's how it was as a ten year old.

1114
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah and so on and so forth. Yeah, go ahead, And.

1115
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: Then I realized then actually my new response started to

1116
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: be yeah, let's talk in three days. And the reason

1117
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 3: was a because maybe I had stuff on and I

1118
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 3: couldn't run to it. Like I said, it doesn't apply

1119
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: to lifetime. If someone calls me and goes I got

1120
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: to the hospital, obviously I'm going to be there. But

1121
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: if someone saying hey, this happened. That happened. I realized

1122
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: I may not be in a position to quit everything

1123
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: in my life to go and be on this call.

1124
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: And those three days that person actually had to do

1125
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: some processing for themselves. And when I was just jumping

1126
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 3: on the phone with them, trying to save and solve

1127
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: their problem, I was actually just enabling them to not

1128
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: have to process it themselves. So most people in three

1129
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 3: days would say to me, They text me and go, gee,

1130
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: actually I think I figured it out exactly, and I'd

1131
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: be like, great, I'd love to hear it. Let's jump

1132
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: on a call. And now they talk to me be like, look,

1133
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: I thought about it. You know, they said this. I

1134
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 3: said that, but you know, and it just showed me

1135
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: that so much of the time we think we're saving people,

1136
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: were actually just an them. And every time we think

1137
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 3: we're going to solve their problem, we're actually just creating

1138
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: more issues for them. Because everyone needs to learn to

1139
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: process mentally and emotionally themselves.

1140
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

1141
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: And so sometimes like jumping in to help someone, you

1142
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 3: actually end up hurting them because yeah, because they need

1143
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: to do it themselves. And so sometimes I just said

1144
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: that boundary with myself. It wasn't like I don't want

1145
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: to be there for my friend or a family member.

1146
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 3: I just realized being there for them meant not being

1147
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: there right now, and they didn't know that. But then

1148
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: when I saw them benefit from it, I realized that

1149
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: actually space sometimes gave them what they needed more than

1150
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 3: my words could.

1151
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it goes back to that we were talking

1152
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: about a lot of the answers are in you, you know,

1153
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: a lot of there was the things you're looking for,

1154
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: the resolutions, they are in you.

1155
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: And sometimes it may.

1156
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: Take a little wild to rise to the surface, and

1157
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: sometimes they'll figure out. But one of the worst things

1158
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: you could do is impact somebody in the moment of

1159
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: them being emotional or in the moment of rage or

1160
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: in the you.

1161
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: Know, influencing them.

1162
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: It could it could, You could really ruin something, you know,

1163
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: because you're feeding off of their emotions.

1164
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, just leave, Yeah.

1165
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: You should just leave, like instead of just being like, hey,

1166
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: take some time to you know, talk through it. Yeah,

1167
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: it's really that's a that's a real important, great lesson man.

1168
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's helped me a lot.

1169
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: That's a great way of of exercise and boundaries.

1170
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Exactly what if what are other daily habits.

1171
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 3: You talk about journaling and meditation in the book, and

1172
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: I want to talk about both of them because I

1173
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: think they talked about a lot today, but I want

1174
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: to hear about your deep, specific habits and how it's

1175
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: become such a ritual for you. So let's start with journaling. Like,

1176
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: obviously you're a writer anyway.

1177
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't make it easier.

1178
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: I was going to say, like, what's different about writing music?

1179
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: Writing the book versus journaling?

1180
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: Like, oh, completely different.

1181
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: So with music, I don't even like I kind of

1182
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: just say when I get in the studio, I kind

1183
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: of just let it flow through me. And I learned

1184
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: that from like Kanye and jay Z and Common. Now

1185
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who do right on

1186
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: paths like Eminem you know, it's amazing to me and

1187
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people I know. But how I do

1188
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: it personally is I just kind of like feel through

1189
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: it and let it stream to me and like going

1190
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: to mic and like not necessarily freestyle it, but yeah,

1191
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: just piece it together. You got to come for a

1192
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: session one day. But then when it comes to journaling,

1193
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: that's my time where I put like my sword, you know,

1194
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: your pin is like your sword to paper, and you

1195
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: are setting your strategizing and you're setting your intentions of

1196
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, things you may would like to experience. But

1197
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: I also like to do like gratitude. For some reason,

1198
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: gratitude just seems to magnetize more of the things that

1199
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for in my life. I've seen it work

1200
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and that's my belief.

1201
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1202
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: So the things that you are grateful for, you have

1203
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: to let the world know that you're grateful for it,

1204
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: because house is going to know to give it back

1205
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: to you, you know, or to bring it to you,

1206
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: or to do the people around you. And it also

1207
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: is a great way for me to you know, and

1208
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: I practice. I am in so much power. So I

1209
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: am grateful. I am this, I am happy, I am confident.

1210
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: I am happy that I get to sit down and

1211
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: talk to my friend Jay today, you know, I am.

1212
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm happy I get to whatever the case is, right.

1213
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: So that's what I do. And then at the end

1214
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: of it, of the journal of the when I do

1215
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: the gratitude stuff, and there are times where I write

1216
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: how I feel, not as much, I also speak out

1217
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: loud by myself. You know, there are a lot of

1218
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: processes I do. But when I do that journal, I

1219
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: sign it at the at the bottom of it like

1220
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: a contract, and I like I sometimes I put it

1221
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: is done, or I put like, so be it because

1222
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: it's a declaration when I do that, and I sign

1223
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: it because it's that important to me.

1224
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: I have to sign my contracts.

1225
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: I have to sign things that will be upheld as

1226
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: an important thing. And that's how the level of importance

1227
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: even more that I hold that too, so I sign

1228
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: it every time.

1229
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: That is so good, man, I've heard that before. I'm

1230
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: going to start doing that.

1231
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: It's powerful.

1232
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never signed it.

1233
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,959
Speaker 1: That's still it's powerful. And jad does everything I write

1234
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: down come to fruition? No, sometimes it does, a lot

1235
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: of them do. And then I realize that I'm also

1236
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: on God's time. So the things that I've always wanted,

1237
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: the things that I've desired, it may not just be

1238
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: the right moment in my journey for that.

1239
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: But that's the beauty of it. Man.

1240
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm still here, I'm still able, I'm still inspired,

1241
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm still passionate.

1242
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, So that's how I that's how I

1243
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: do my journaling.

1244
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: I also have like a there's a book I have

1245
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: of like poetry too that I like write poems and stuff.

1246
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: I've only I only write a few a year, honestly,

1247
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: but like I'll like fully write and draw around the

1248
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: poem and like it's really like a beautiful art.

1249
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: It's just some something I do for fun.

1250
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: I haven't actually I've only written one this year, and

1251
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: last year I wrote a few, so maybe I maybe

1252
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: inspired me to write one today.

1253
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: But that's kind of all it is.

1254
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: But I don't spend too much time on It takes

1255
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: me about five to twelve minutes.

1256
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: That's great, max.

1257
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: And then I meditate after that because it's kind of

1258
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: like it's kind of like a good transition to like

1259
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: the energy is set for me to like to meditate,

1260
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: because when I meditate, I feel like I'm attracting these

1261
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: things more and giving myself the best shot of being

1262
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: the most productive, the most impactful that I can be,

1263
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's kind of the first thing

1264
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: I do when I wake up if I can being

1265
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: a dad. Though there are times where I get I

1266
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: get woken up and I have to go immediately, you know,

1267
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: and so I come back to it later on it's

1268
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: not preferred that way, but it's a good trade off.

1269
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, what does your meditation look like? I love

1270
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 3: because I've learned so much just to now your journal

1271
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: I've never heard so be it it is done or

1272
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: the signature at the end. I'm going to start practicing

1273
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: those three. I like those lot.

1274
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's that important.

1275
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: That is beautiful, man, I get that. Like what you

1276
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: just said about we signed contracts, signed checks, Like, there's

1277
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: very few things we still sign.

1278
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: Exactly right, and there very important thing.

1279
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are important documents and that is an important document.

1280
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: And then so what about your meditation? What does your

1281
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: practice look like?

1282
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: It depends.

1283
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: I love doing guided meditation. Sometimes I love doing I

1284
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: kind of have my own process where I like visualize

1285
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: the light of creation, like the light of the sun,

1286
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: and it like really filling my whole body up and

1287
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: literally everything that doesn't align with that, anything that isn't

1288
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: that light and bright, you know what I'm saying, immediately

1289
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: leaves my body and goes back into the earth. And like,

1290
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: so you know, there are times where I if I'm

1291
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: not in nature, I imagine myself in nature and like

1292
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: things going back into the earth, and I like surround myself,

1293
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, from my I forgot the word that esoteric body.

1294
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: I think it's like one inch off of you, then

1295
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: your emotional body, then your mental body, and like I

1296
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: just do the same thing, Like it's like a shower

1297
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: of light. It's like hopping in the shower after you

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Speaker 1: work out, like but of light and whatever it is,

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: I kind of like cater to how I'm feeling. So

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: from there, I'll like, if I have like some row

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01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: on my stomach, I'll like, for some reason, I associate

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01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: green with healing energy, right, and this comes from years

1303
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: of like practice, or I associate royal.

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: Blue with power, you know, the power of the universe.

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: I associate like a red with the love of the universe,

1306
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: the love and support of the universe. And like I

1307
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: represent like the violet flame of Saint Germaine, like to

1308
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: cleanse things that are holding me back.

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: Right, So I do.

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01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: I have like quite a process and I break it

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: down in a book and afterwards I feel just it

1312
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: really makes a big difference. And you know, I read

1313
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: this book the Hidden Messages in Water, I believe it's called,

1314
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: and it talked about you know, there's like itty bitty

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01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: microscopic crystals in water, and they one of the part

1316
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: of the book, the experiment of like how positively when

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01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: you speak to water, like, hey, you're amazing, I love you,

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: keep going like you're beautiful. And then they had another

1319
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: water a glass or container of water where they said,

1320
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: like you suck.

1321
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: It's never that, you know, real negative.

1322
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: And you look at the crystals and one is like

1323
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: a beautiful snowflake looking crystal, and then the other one

1324
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: is like distorted and all damaged, and we are seventy

1325
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: eighty percent water. So these things, when you write these

1326
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: affirmations down, or when you say them out loud, or

1327
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: when you journal, these things have a real effect on

1328
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: you tremendously, Like scientifically, it's not even like a woo

1329
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: woo type of thing. It's not even like it's not

1330
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: even up for debate, you know what I'm saying. It's

1331
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: literally scientific for the people who are more you know,

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01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: need the proof as opposed to it, you know, more

1333
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: analytical than like opinion based. So I just want to

1334
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: stress the importance of it.

1335
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 2: It really is.

1336
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: And by the way, the most the most honorable people

1337
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: that I've met and like what I consider to be successful,

1338
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: and I don't mean richest. I just mean successful in

1339
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: like the impact what they're doing, how.

1340
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: They are they meditate.

1341
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: They all, you know, from my favorite rappers down to

1342
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: my favorite down to you, you know, down to anyone

1343
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: who I just really admire and and and you can

1344
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: meditate in your own ways. They're like I know, like

1345
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: Janey does different meditations, you know, through sound healing or

1346
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: mirror meditations. I know people who do shower meditations, walking.

1347
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: There's no wrong way to meditate either. That's another misconception.

1348
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: There's no wrong way to do it. The fact that

1349
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: you take the intention out or if you focus on

1350
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: your breathing, the fact that you take the time out

1351
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: to be that conscious of yourself. Over time, you will

1352
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: get more and more into it. It's like anything you

1353
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: do and you will see the effects of it.

1354
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was what?

1355
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: Have you ever meditated with another rapper that was interesting

1356
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: or anything like that? Anyone an interesting practice that I

1357
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't know about. Does Eminem meditate?

1358
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: You know what?

1359
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: I have never meditated with Eminem, but he is a

1360
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: very Eminem is a very like amazing person, so I

1361
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. I know jay Z does. I haven't

1362
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: meditated with him, but I know he does. And you know,

1363
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: there are all different ways. You know, sometimes just sitting

1364
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: and visualizing and like seeing these things is a form

1365
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: of meditation.

1366
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: It could be your way.

1367
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: So you have to find out these ways that work

1368
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: for you, just like therapy. It's like, I can't I

1369
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: can tell you how therapy work for me, but you

1370
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: may go to a therapist that isn't right for you

1371
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, therapy is whack. But that's not

1372
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: that's just you know, a specific situation. A lot of times,

1373
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: therapy for me has pushed me to the edge of

1374
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: realization and has been the extra push that I needed

1375
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: to Sometimes I already knew the answer, but sometimes I

1376
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: needed to talk it through, and sometimes I needed to

1377
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: really exercise, and sometimes I dealer something new that awakened

1378
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: the truth in me through therapy and having someone that

1379
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: I could confide and that wasn't a family member, that

1380
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a best friend, that I wasn't in a relationship with,

1381
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: and was able to apply it to all of those

1382
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: other relationships and in a very successful way.

1383
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean in the book you

1384
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: talk about how I think it was like in twenty

1385
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: six you said you nearly got addicted to adderall when

1386
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: you were touring with Rihanna, and I was thinking, like,

1387
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 3: how do you stop yourself like in that moment? What

1388
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: was the habit or the tool or the practice was

1389
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: it therapy was in meditation? What was it that helped

1390
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 3: you recover.

1391
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: From that man?

1392
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: So, first of all, adderall is like synthetic, you know,

1393
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know they say like heroin all these things, right, Like,

1394
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: it's just a lot to it. And I'm really into

1395
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: Eastern medicine personally.

1396
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1397
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: I used to have heart, a real bad heart problem

1398
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: that I fixed through literally taking magnesium and some other

1399
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: supplements that a doctor told me that I had to

1400
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: get surgery for it. They told me they had to

1401
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: cut my heart open and put a pacemaker in it.

1402
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: So when I started taking adderall, it's because I was

1404
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: putting myself on a clock that didn't exist. I was

1405
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: putting myself under pressure, and I was living in a

1406
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: fear based way. And I started taking add of all

1407
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: because I wanted to accomplish more. And it was very well,

1408
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: it worked, but at the expense of.

1409
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: So many things.

1410
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: I honestly, the expense of like my like affecting my

1411
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: soul and changing the person that I was and depleting

1412
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 1: my body.

1413
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: It shut it off.

1414
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: It creates synthetic dopamine in your brain, so it creates

1415
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,480
Speaker 1: all this dopamine, but your natural dopamine that is responsible

1416
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: for your happiness, for your inspiration, your creativity, who makes

1417
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: you who you are, it shuts off. It shuts it off,

1418
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: and after a while you're kind of relying on this

1419
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: synthetic dopamine only. And I remember as time went on,

1420
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: I would go in the studio and I feel like

1421
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything without it.

1422
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 2: And that's when I knew I had a real problem

1423
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: with it.

1424
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: So I went cold turkey, And that is like that

1425
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: was probably the second bout of depression in my life

1426
01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: that I went through.

1427
01:09:59,040 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: That was like real.

1428
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: That's when I was like wanting to kill myself, Like

1429
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: I was just like my mom was playing all these

1430
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: tricks on me, right, And it didn't matter that I had,

1431
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: like I would have had a big ass house in

1432
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. It didn't matter that I had millions of

1433
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: dollars in the account, And it didn't matter because as

1434
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: great as a lot of those things are, they're still separate.

1435
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Lincoln Parks shirts through you know, Chester.

1436
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: I can't speak from God rest his soul, but like,

1437
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: who would think that, Like, oh, that someone you know

1438
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: who's one of the biggest rock stars in the world

1439
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: and the band regardless of you know, what they talked

1440
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: about their music, like would do that you know? Or

1441
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: the delete you know, Kirk Cobain, you know all these things, right,

1442
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: So it's because it's all separate, you know. And I'm

1443
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: not saying that money can't make you happy.

1444
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: By the way.

1445
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't like when like people, you know, I don't

1446
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: like when rich people get on Cameron be like, money

1447
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: isn't everything.

1448
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: It isn't everything, but it's a lot.

1449
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: It's a resource that is very needed in every in

1450
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: anything you need to do in this world. I agree

1451
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: you need it, So it is important. It's very important.

1452
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like sit in here and say it isn't.

1453
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: But it was separate from what I had to deal

1454
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: with at the time, So.

1455
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

1456
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 1: I went cold turkey and that's when I stopped everything

1457
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: I was doing and I called my mom, who we

1458
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: weren't on great terms, and she came out and was

1459
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: in my house with me and entry.

1460
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: My mom has always shout out my dad too.

1461
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: My dad is with me today and he's like, man,

1462
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: make sure you shot me out too, Like, yeah, i'mnna

1463
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: shot you.

1464
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: Out too, Like my dad is great.

1465
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: But my mom at that point and those certain points

1466
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: in my life, just a few key points, she knew

1467
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: what she had a solution to offer me always and

1468
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. It's something I hope to do

1469
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: for my kid and kids. And she was like introduced

1470
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,879
Speaker 1: me to you know, she was who put me on meditation.

1471
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: She just would always introduce me to certain things. Try this,

1472
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: try this method. And then I started realizing how connect

1473
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: the physical, mental, emotional, spiritual art, and I started working out.

1474
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: I started prioritizing myself and started putting me first, started

1475
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: reconnecting with things I wanted to do, started trying new things,

1476
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: jumping out of planes I was doing, going to the

1477
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: gun range, just trying things out that I was like, Hey,

1478
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: that's interesting, let me try it. And it really helped

1479
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: me reconnect with myself. I started watching anime again, and

1480
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: then you know, I had to take a break from

1481
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 1: the studio because I wasn't I couldn't think of anything,

1482
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: and then I finally got back in and was inspired again.

1483
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: And life is the greatest inspiration. But what I can

1484
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: say is to people who are addicted to adderall and

1485
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: like other drugs, that that synthetic high is very temporary,

1486
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: and it said at an expense, And it's different when

1487
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: people who have ADHD who necessarily need it. But there

1488
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: are even other ways to deal with that. And I

1489
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: guarantee you they will take less of your body. You know,

1490
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,879
Speaker 1: these things like when these prescriptions they mess up your kidneys,

1491
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: your liver and as simple as that sounds, these your liver,

1492
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: your gut, messing up your gut. Your gut is your

1493
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: second brain. It dictates so much more than we've been

1494
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: let on to know. I think that's why Roddy is

1495
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: so you know, into the food, because it's not just food.

1496
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's it's so much more than that.

1497
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: So I know I'm running on and on, but my

1498
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: point is that it was very tough, but you get

1499
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: through it and they're on the other side of it.

1500
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: You You you come out as like a true champion

1501
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: and you're the source of it. And there's no better

1502
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: drug or high than being high.

1503
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: Off life.

1504
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: There is no better thing because you're the actual drug,

1505
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: You're the actual source of it. It's not something you

1506
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: have to take to get to there. It's like you

1507
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: are and there's you'll be. You can soar, you can

1508
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: go go higher than.

1509
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, real, How do you feel your grandmother would feel

1510
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 3: reading this these pages?

1511
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: My grandma was one of the first people to give

1512
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: me a book of It was a book about King Solomon,

1513
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: and that book changed my life. And it talks about

1514
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: the strategies of King Solomon, how he had his ran

1515
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: his business, how he strategized, how you know how King

1516
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: Solomon he didn't He wanted wisdom. That's what he wanted

1517
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: and that's why he was granted everything else. That's why

1518
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: he was the richest man who ever lived, is because

1519
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: that's not what he was.

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 2: He didn't seek the power.

1521
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: He sought the wisdom to help people, and God gave

1522
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: him the resources by making him the richest man.

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01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 2: Right.

1524
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: So anyway, you know, so my grandma, she was like

1525
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: one of the first female black captains in World War Two.

1526
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: She was one of the first like female police officers,

1527
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: a teacher, a counselor. She was incredible, right, her and

1528
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: my granddad met in World War two, and she was

1529
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 1: the example of hard work, the example of nothing is something.

1530
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: She lived on the street called out Her Drive, which

1531
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: was that's where Marvin Gaye used to live when he

1532
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: lived in Detroit.

1533
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: It's like a real prestigious street.

1534
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: And I can imagine that that was like one of

1535
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: her proudest accomplishments. So I really got loved for I

1536
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: think she would read this book and be proud, you know,

1537
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: I think so.

1538
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: And I think that, you know.

1539
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: As a scholar, she would probably be like correcting some

1540
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: of my grammar work and you know, things like that,

1541
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: but she would be very proud. She was very strict

1542
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and she believed that education,

1543
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: going to college was a way to a better life.

1544
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: And I went a different way. I didn't go to college.

1545
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: I was like when instead I went to the music

1546
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: and she know I had respect for it because I

1547
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: always had good grades. But even when I chose the

1548
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what she wanted me to do, she

1549
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: supported me wholeheartedly. And I spent all the bonds she

1550
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: saved up, all the money saved up for college, I

1551
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 1: spent it all on studio sessions, and I can't imagine

1552
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: how mad or how pissed off that might have made her.

1553
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: But through it all, she supported me, and I just

1554
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 1: appreciate it. She just shows me how much she valued family.

1555
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: And I was able to buy a house for her

1556
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: and my mom before they passed. She actually saw the

1557
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: music payoff. And we used to watch all these Westerns

1558
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: and Jeopardy and all these things. And I remember she

1559
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 1: was watching Jeopardy and I was actually a question on Jeopardy,

1560
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: and you know, I taught to her on the phone

1561
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: and she was so like wow, like you know, and

1562
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: it used to tear me apart when things weren't working

1563
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: out and I was spending her money on the studio sessions.

1564
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: And we would have Sunday dinner every Sunday and I

1565
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: would have to go and sit there and she'd be like, well,

1566
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: what's going on with the music? You know you need

1567
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: to Why don't you just apply to community college? Like

1568
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: you could have been halfway with a degree by now.

1569
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: It's been two years. It's been you know, all this time,

1570
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: and it broke my heart every Sunday, and I did

1571
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: give up, you know, at one point, I did give up.

1572
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: So at one point I was over it. I was

1573
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: over music. It wasn't going anywhere.

1574
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 3: When was that?

1575
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: That was after I met Kanye.

1576
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you roped and then he didn't get in

1577
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 3: touch with it for two years off there.

1578
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was like a blank you know. And

1579
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: I turned down my scholarships. I had a college. I

1580
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: graduated school like a three point seven GPA. I was like,

1581
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, I had like a lot of academic scholarships,

1582
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: all these things, and I turned it down and then

1583
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: I was it was non responsible. But in hinds I

1584
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: look back, he was blowing up in his own right.

1585
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: He was busy. You know, it's not the same. You

1586
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: only see things from your perspective, especially when you're younger.

1587
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just was like I felt like I

1588
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: tried and gave it all I had.

1589
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: And I gave up.

1590
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 1: And my mom, you know, who was a teacher as well,

1591
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: she was the only one who was like, Yo, what

1592
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: are you doing?

1593
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 3: Man?

1594
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: Come on?

1595
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: You know you you know you're you're registering for Come on,

1596
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: you got it? Like, just keep going, you got it.

1597
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: This is this is what you're meant to do. You

1598
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: believe in and do it. And literally months after that,

1599
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: that's when things started picking up, So it's like you

1600
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: can keep digging and digging and digging in. Before I

1601
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: struck the gold, I gave up. And that's what I mean.

1602
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: I had those guardian angels around me to keep it going.

1603
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: One thing you spoke about that, you know, I'm really

1604
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 3: sorry I had to go through it because I had

1605
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 3: so many friends who've actually gone through it recently, which

1606
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: is why I'm asking. But you suffered a miscarriage like that.

1607
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 3: I've still got to so many of my friends who

1608
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 3: are trying to have kids right now.

1609
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 2: It's super common.

1610
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like, that doesn't make it any better

1611
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 3: right right now?

1612
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: It does that?

1613
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many of my friends have had it this year,

1614
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: literally in the last twelve months, and yeah, it's and

1615
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: it's hard. They're going through a loss, their partner's going

1616
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: through the grief. But it's and like you said, it's

1617
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 3: super common. But that doesn't make it any easier any

1618
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: better when it happens to you, Right What was something

1619
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 3: that really helped you through that experience that you think

1620
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 3: could help others? What was it to help both of you?

1621
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 3: Because it's a two way thing. It's not just about you.

1622
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 3: A lot of our problems we're just persons ourselves.

1623
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: Well, every situation is different, right, so to someone who

1624
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: is experiencing miscarriages, and I can only speak from a

1625
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: man's perspective, I can't speak for a woman who really

1626
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: their perspective is the most traumatic. But I can say that,

1627
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: first of all, you're worthy. I don't want you to

1628
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: think you're not worthy. I don't want you to I

1629
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: don't want people to think that because they have a miscarriage,

1630
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: that they're inadequate, or that they're broken. I think that

1631
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: this life is complex, and there are things we do

1632
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: and don't understand, and I think there's beauty in everything

1633
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: that's meant for you.

1634
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: And instead of trying to.

1635
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: Control exactly how you want your life to be, except

1636
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: that it's going to be the life that.

1637
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: Is meant for you.

1638
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: And you may get blessed with a child later on,

1639
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: you may get blessed with a child that comes into

1640
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: your life a different way. You may get blessed with

1641
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: You have to keep your Sometimes we get so set

1642
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: on a goal we don't keep the rest of that

1643
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: of our doors open of how the universe will bless

1644
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: us in that way to not only fill that void,

1645
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: but even make it even greater.

1646
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: So I just want to, you know, keep an open mind.

1647
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: But you to anyone who does experience such an insufferable loss,

1648
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: like you know, go through it, like express yourself, deal

1649
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: with that grief, but don't let it consume you. You know,

1650
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to go through it just to get

1651
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: to it.

1652
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, No, I appreciate that matter. It's going

1653
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 3: to help a lot of them. We've got two last

1654
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 3: questions for you, Sean before we wrap. How do you

1655
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 3: personally find the light in really dark times, Like when

1656
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: you feel distracted from that spiritual light? What do you

1657
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 3: do to reconnect well?

1658
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: To find the light in really dark times? Sometimes you

1659
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: have to realize that you are the light. But sometimes

1660
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: you got to embrace the darkness. You ever noticed how

1661
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 1: when you're in the dark for a long time, you

1662
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: start to see better and things actually get lighter. For sure,

1663
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: I think that it's a natural human instinct to like

1664
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: go into a mode of like fear based and it's

1665
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: like I need the light, I need the light.

1666
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: Where's the light?

1667
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: Instead of just accepting that you are for certain you

1668
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: are you not only are you the light, that there

1669
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: are is a darkness to you too. That's beautiful and

1670
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: that you have to accept all aspects of yourself. So

1671
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, once you do accept it, I think it's

1672
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: easier to find the light or be the light. I

1673
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: think you know, once you really are comfortable in your environment,

1674
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 1: you will find and see the way to wherever it

1675
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: is you're trying to go.

1676
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely great answer, last Querson, I want to ask you.

1677
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things you ask people to do

1678
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 3: in the book, which I want everyone to do they

1679
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: get the book, is list five miracles, yeah, that they've

1680
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 3: experienced in their life. I love this idea because when

1681
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 3: I read this, I was just like, oh my gosh.

1682
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: If you actually stop to think about the miracles that

1683
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 3: have happened in your life and to really take them

1684
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 3: in and to really like embrace them and let them

1685
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: pervade your entire being, you start believing in more miracles.

1686
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 3: You start living in the miracle, because often it's so

1687
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 3: easy to live in the negativity and to live in

1688
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 3: the toxicity and to live in everything that's the opposite

1689
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 3: of a miracle. What gave you this idea? Where did

1690
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: it come from? And how do you live in the

1691
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 3: miracle every day?

1692
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what idea came from like when you highlight,

1693
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 1: when you really recognize the miracles and you're kind of

1694
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: supercharging them, and you always see more miracles. There are

1695
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: so many miracles every single day. The fact that the

1696
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: sun is at the exact right place, and the moon

1697
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: is at the exact right place, and the oxygen is

1698
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: at the exact right the thing that the fact that

1699
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: we are orbiting is a miracle, bro for real, if

1700
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 1: you think about it, because one slight thing, everything is gone.

1701
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Everything is gone as shit fast.

1702
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. But for me, when you listen

1703
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: to miracles that you experienced personally that impact you personally,

1704
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: I feel like.

1705
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 2: It breathes more so for me.

1706
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: Man, being on a pursuit of happiness and being able

1707
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: to actually see my dreams come true to a level

1708
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: is a miracle for me. Having this isn't an order.

1709
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: By the way, having a sun is a you know,

1710
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: that's a miracle. That's for real a miracle, because that's

1711
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: like creating something out of nothing. Being able to man

1712
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: waking up is a miracle. Everyone don't get to wake up.

1713
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: Man. Being able to set goals and.

1714
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: Pursue them, you know, not even necessarily check them all off,

1715
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: but pursue them. Being able to eat food and let

1716
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: it give me nutrition is a miracle, bro, you know.

1717
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to just sit up here and

1718
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: like be preaching positivity in that sense. But there are

1719
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: so many miracles that happened there. I remember one time

1720
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: I was down at the fireworks in Detroit and somebody

1721
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: was firing a gun and I saw it and it

1722
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: looked like I saw it and it went past me, and.

1723
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: It was a miracle. I didn't get hit by any bullets.

1724
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: It was a miracle that when I got into a

1725
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: car accident and told on my car when I was sixteen,

1726
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: I was able to climb out of the window. I

1727
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: couldn't even open the doors, and nothing was wrong with me.

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I had a little bruise on the side of my pinky.

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01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: That was it. It's looked like somebody died in there.

1730
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: There are miracles that happen every day that you may

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01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: not consider miracles that you have to recognize and you

1732
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: don't even have to question in it. That just shows you, bro,

1733
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: like you're here, we are in we are in it.

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01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 3: I love that man. That was one of my favorite

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01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 3: activities and practices and I hope everyone has been listening

1736
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 3: and watching today. If you do one thing to do that,

1737
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 3: yeah for really spend time just mapping out your five miracles.

1738
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,839
Speaker 3: The book is called Go Higher. Five Practices for Purpose.

1739
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: And thank you for writing yeah peace, thank you for

1740
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: writing the Ford of course it was beautiful.

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01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: No, just congrats to you.

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 3: Man.

1743
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: I'm really proud of you. I know. I was just

1744
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: at your house like a few.

1745
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,520
Speaker 3: Days days ago.

1746
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: We loved it, eating some amazing food. You really are

1747
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 1: an amazing person, not just on camera like some people.

1748
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: You really are amazing on and off camera. Man, your

1749
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: heart is big, is very inspiring.

1750
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: We have these in our fridge the best. I have

1751
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: all your books on my shelf.

1752
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: I've read them and you know, just thank you man,

1753
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,839
Speaker 1: Thank you for being an outlet.

1754
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: Thank you for being such a.

1755
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: Connection, especially between all of these amazing people and being

1756
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: able to open up and be vulnerable. What I can

1757
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:13,959
Speaker 1: say is that to everyone watching, your product of your environment,

1758
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: and you are the You are the chemist of your environment.

1759
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: You have the power to change it in any given

1760
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: time or moment. You know, if you're unhappy with where

1761
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: you are, realize that you have the instant power to

1762
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: change it. It all starts with the mentality first and foremost,

1763
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: and that is like the key ingredient to making anything amazing,

1764
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: you know. So I hope you guys realize that we

1765
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: only have this moment. Anything you've done in the past,

1766
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: you have to let go of. Anything in the future

1767
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: can change. You know that you have an idea of

1768
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: how it should be and that what else you know,

1769
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: what are you going to do with the time you

1770
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: got lift?

1771
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: It's up to you. Love that man.

1772
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for writing this book. The book is called

1773
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: Go Hire Everyone. Go grab your copy, share it with

1774
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 3: your friends, your family, people in your life. Are looking

1775
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 3: for really insightful, simple wisdom that can create shifts in

1776
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 3: your life, practical advice, practical stories as well. Sean, I'm

1777
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 3: really glad you've done this with your platform because I

1778
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 3: think that you know, it's very rare these days for

1779
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 3: people to see what masculinity means. And I feel like

1780
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 3: with you the strength and the vulnerability, which in one

1781
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: sense of the one and the same, but I also

1782
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 3: think they are different in that I think there is

1783
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 3: a need to be strong, set boundaries, be to stand

1784
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 3: up for yourself. These are all strength as well. And

1785
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 3: then at the same time, the softness, the courage, the bravery,

1786
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 3: the vulnerability that is too and so I love how

1787
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 3: you put those both together. It was an honor to

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01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 3: write the forward for this book. Think a real like

1789
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 3: you'd ask me to do. That was I was very touch.

1790
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 3: You could have asked anyone. And I genuinely, genuinely hope

1791
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 3: that people are going to pick this book up. And

1792
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 3: I think people are going to hand it to their friends,

1793
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: their family, people in their life. If you want this

1794
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 3: year twenty twenty five to be a great year, yeah

1795
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: you got to go higher. Yes, right, And so I'm

1796
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 3: excited for you. I'm excited for this next chapter in

1797
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 3: your life.

1798
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, And I'm.

1799
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 3: Excited for how this book for many many years to come,

1800
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: we'll have an impact on people, not just now, not

1801
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: just this year, but for many years to come. People

1802
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 3: will look back and say, I love do all the

1803
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: music he wrote, but I also love that book he wrote.

1804
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Thank you man.

1805
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: That means everything, and yeah, thanks for that allowing me

1806
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: to communicate always. You know, communication, I always say the

1807
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: communication is the bridge to salvation that God is holding

1808
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 1: our hand to walk across. And just like any other bridge,

1809
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: you can't skip a step to get to the other side.

1810
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: So thanks for allowing me to communicate, and thank you

1811
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: for communicating so well in your life is very inspiring.

1812
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'll see you soon. Man, I'll come back

1813
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: over for dinner.

1814
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 3: Wait wait, I appreciate thank you.

1815
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: That is part three.

1816
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 3: That is part three over three four coming, Part four coming.

1817
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: So thank you.

1818
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 3: You're the best man. Thank you brother, Thanks for being

1819
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 3: that's a dear friend. If this is the year that

1820
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 3: you're trying to get creative, you're trying to build more,

1821
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 3: I need you to listen to this episode with Rick

1822
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 3: Rubin on how to break into your most creative self,

1823
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 3: how to use unconventional methods that lead to success, and

1824
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 3: the secret to genuinely loving what you do. If you're

1825
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 3: trying to find your passion and your lane, Rick Rubin's

1826
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 3: episode is the one for you.

1827
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,799
Speaker 2: Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value,

1828
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: Like as an artist, if you like it, that's all

1829
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 2: of the value. That's the success comes when you say

1830
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: I like this enough for other people to see it.