WEBVTT - Ep 96: Phoebe Bridgers

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<v Speaker 1>My New Year's resolution this year, which I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>stuck to, is just like be honest with people and

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<v Speaker 1>be be yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to episode ninety six of the podcast with

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<v Speaker 2>Phoebe Bridges, who I have to thank more than I

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<v Speaker 2>usually would any of our other guests because this is

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<v Speaker 2>the second time that we have made this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>met up with Phoebe originally during Lockdown when she was

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<v Speaker 2>living here in London for about a month or so.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a lovely chat. It was a great time,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I realized once I got home or back

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<v Speaker 2>to our office, that I hadn't pressed record. Thankfully, Phoebe

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<v Speaker 2>is a nice enough person to do a do over

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<v Speaker 2>with me. So this conversation that you're about to hear

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<v Speaker 2>was recorded whilst Phoebe was back in Los Angeles. We

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<v Speaker 2>did this over zoom. She recorded her end of the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>I recorded mine. We stuck them together, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's better than the first conversation that we had,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're going to have to take my word for that,

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<v Speaker 2>because no one will ever hear it. There are some

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<v Speaker 2>links below, as per usual, that'll all makes sense as

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<v Speaker 2>we go along. Down there is a link for un Cabaret,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the comedy show that Phoebe's mum is a

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<v Speaker 2>part of as a stand up comic. I should warn

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<v Speaker 2>you that this episode does contain some particularly bad language.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a part where we're talking about Phoebe's favorite swear

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<v Speaker 2>words and some of them are the really bad ones.

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<v Speaker 2>this is number ninety six of Midnight Chats with the incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>extremely funny Phoebe Bridges, who I should say, released a

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<v Speaker 2>great album during the middle of Lockdown in June. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you've heard it already, but if you haven't, it's

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<v Speaker 2>called Punisher, And although it's extremely sad, it's very good

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<v Speaker 2>and Phoebe as you're about to hear, is extremely funny. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. You're in La right, You're in your

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<v Speaker 2>are your home? Is that your home? I can see

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<v Speaker 2>behind you. It looks like a lovely log cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very lovely. Yeah, I love it. I like

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<v Speaker 1>being home. But also, America is the worst. It's the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking hate it. It's so embarrassing to be American.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you were here for a little bit and because

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<v Speaker 2>you obviously tour a lot. Do you find every time

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<v Speaker 2>you go back you realize it? Is it particularly? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it the worst right now because it's the worst right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it the worst because you've been away and

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<v Speaker 2>you've been away from it and you've come back and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh shit, I forgot it was like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I literally came back and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, California's on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's I used to think, do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen when all of our heroes died and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was just like, oh my god, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>worst year ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Was also the Trump year, Yeah, exactly, it was that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was considered like the worst year, and then twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty has come along and shown it what for.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think that people are realizing that just

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<v Speaker 1>because twenty twenty is the worst doesn't mean it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be over in a calendar year like twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one could be this could just be it for us,

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<v Speaker 1>It could just continue to suck. White nationalists could take

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<v Speaker 1>over the country at least, this is what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, to answer your question, I do feel the

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<v Speaker 1>worse right now, having had some space from it and

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<v Speaker 1>then coming back and being like, oh, it is as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as it could possibly be right now, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like, like, we handled the pandemic worse than anywhere else, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is even more apparent to me after having

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<v Speaker 1>distance and then yeah, and then California being on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, not that this is a competition, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we're giving you a rum for your money.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe you are doing it worse than us,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think we're trying to keep up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're like in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>With sure, but like the States, because the states are

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<v Speaker 1>so separate here and like because Trump didn't take any

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility whatsoever for dealing with it. It's like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>super super red states are like it doesn't exist, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in California they're like everybody hide. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like separate waves of like a new group of

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<v Speaker 1>people leaves their house.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how are you feeling about the election. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>do the election. Let's get the election, Let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it over with.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I mean, I don't want to say this

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so sacrilege, but I I feel powerless, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like just the election last time was such a

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<v Speaker 1>shock to everybody, or I don't want to say to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of like friends of color that

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh yeah, duh, like this has always been

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<v Speaker 1>the system. It's been invisible to you because you're a

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<v Speaker 1>white lady from Silver Lake.

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<v Speaker 3>But but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a shock last time that this time I'm just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have control over my universe and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I can really think about. Where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try my hardest to make sure that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>speaking out as much as possible and putting my money

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<v Speaker 1>where my mouth is as far as like charity, and

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<v Speaker 1>and making sure that there's no you know, shadow banning

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever in my world. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it's like, I just hope that good people

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<v Speaker 1>show up, you know. I mean, I'm gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't take me away from my polling place. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I live in California, so it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>no brainer every year.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're in light that, you're in light the east

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<v Speaker 2>of the city, right, you're in silver.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I'm surrounded by the liberal elite bubble. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I live in.

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<v Speaker 2>You yeah, me too. It's nice, right, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I'm I'm cozy and comfy.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yesterday I was driving in Santa Monica and

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<v Speaker 1>drove by like the Veteran Cemetery, right, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>all these tents with American flags outside of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I haven't looked into it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it's like they're letting homeless veterans stay there

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<v Speaker 1>in their tents. But I was like, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, if this was in the writer's room,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be rejected as too obvious, like it's such

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<v Speaker 1>like homeless veterans sleeping on top of dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, is like the craziest thing I've ever Oh god, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>someone's calling me. That's no call answered the phone. Okay, wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Yeah, it sounds like it's like an SNL sketch

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<v Speaker 2>that they would have They would have rejected.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been like, no, that's too stupid. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like an eighties movie too on the nose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Last time we met, it was in person. You're hearing

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<v Speaker 2>like a kind of a bit of a sweet spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because the weather was good. Lockdown was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of good. That was that was good, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that was like the good time, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of got bad again now and you were enjoying it

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<v Speaker 2>like you liked have bad language. I seem to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love I love. Kunt is just my favorite word. It

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<v Speaker 3>just really yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I I every time I'm over there and then I

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<v Speaker 1>come back, I'm like, all right, nobody says kunt over here.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to stop because everyone's ap pulled. When you

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<v Speaker 2>say it, you like it slips out and people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean really, I think we talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think in like queer culture, weirdly, you can

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<v Speaker 1>say it as.

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<v Speaker 3>Much as you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Like I think it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost like the shock value of it is what's so valuable,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I hear way more people say it nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, if I say it to like my

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<v Speaker 1>mom or something, she's like, yeah, although she've heard her

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<v Speaker 1>use it. Oh yeah, my mom is like, well, when

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<v Speaker 1>she divorced my dad, she decided to do stand up comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she How old would she have been at that point?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this before before you've arrived?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, no, this was around like I was like twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you went to watch it, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my parents had a really fucked up marriage where

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<v Speaker 1>they were just like domesticly kind of pulling off the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of marriage sort of but like slept in step

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<v Speaker 1>separate beds and super abusive and horrible, and my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>like my dad was super controlling, and my mom never

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<v Speaker 1>really got to have like a real job, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she got when they finally got divorced, she just like

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<v Speaker 1>got an amazing job and started doing stand up comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>What was her bit, What was her like angle, what

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<v Speaker 2>was her thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, her thing is kind of like, I'm a suburban mom,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I'm also really dirty and I am bitchy

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<v Speaker 1>about pop culture. But to give you a little taste,

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<v Speaker 1>I showed up one time and she was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it okay if I talk about you a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>And she she told a story. I guess I must

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<v Speaker 1>have been like eighteen or nineteen because I was not

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<v Speaker 1>living with her, but I was still very like needy

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<v Speaker 1>and freaked out about being an adult, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I texted her like a picture of my genitalia

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<v Speaker 1>and said is this herpes? And she totally roasted me

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<v Speaker 1>on stage and I love it. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe that she's doing this. It felt like she

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<v Speaker 1>was like really stepping out there and realized what was

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<v Speaker 1>funny about her life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's you know some people sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you meet someone who says I'm close to my momy

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom are super close. That sounds like you're

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<v Speaker 2>enough level of closeness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we're like we're like the uh Comedy Central

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<v Speaker 1>Gilmore girls. Okay, I want to say you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like way more fucked up Gilmore girls. Okay

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<v Speaker 1>where like but also like with like screaming fights when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a teenager and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But she, Yeah, we like every partner that I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 1>When they look at my texts with my mother are like,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you sharing this information?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Was she was.

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<v Speaker 3>She really funny?

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<v Speaker 2>Was she good at the comedy? Did she go down? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I I always say that I like barely ever

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<v Speaker 1>drink ever in my life. I feel like it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a depressant. I'm just like, I can't add one more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I saw her for the first time, I

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<v Speaker 1>got like wasted because I was so nervous and she

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't need to she was so fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Like every other time i've she's been doing it on

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<v Speaker 1>like zoom. She does this show called on Cabaret in

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<v Speaker 1>you know in normal times that is every Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>she they've been doing it on Zoom and so my

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<v Speaker 1>brother and I watched it last week and yeah, it crushes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to check this out. What's her what's her name?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a name that people listening to this should

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<v Speaker 2>be finding her stuff? Just Jamie Bridges, Jamie Bridges, Okay, nice,

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<v Speaker 2>And that is that her full time thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no, because I mean there's like no money

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<v Speaker 1>in it, especially during a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 3>But she it's her full time passion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've seen her like sell out places and she's

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<v Speaker 1>at all the same spots as Like, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>met a bunch of like famous comedians through my mother

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, which fucking incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's your mum?

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<v Speaker 1>And I met I kind of met like Tig Nataro

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<v Speaker 1>in the same scene and uh, this guy Alex Edelman,

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<v Speaker 1>who's fucking hilarious. Yeah, she took me to a show

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<v Speaker 1>that Margaret Schow was doing that she did. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's a very close knit and like

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<v Speaker 1>d I y world, which I love. Like it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of more punk rock than Oh please excuse the circular

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<v Speaker 1>saw outside of my house.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can hear that, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a neighbor building building a shack.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone's someone's like preparing for the apocalypse?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get it. Probably a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably a good idea is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you get your sense of humor? From do you

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<v Speaker 2>get that from your mom? Because I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that you love the word cunt, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>and you also like twat, right, but you said I

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<v Speaker 2>think I love I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way you say though twat. Yeah, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>like my mom says twat all the time. I really

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so offensive, you know offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear that. It's not it's kind, it's not very offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that just means like they're a bit of an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell that, right, I feel like I hear it

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<v Speaker 1>only in America at least it to me, it means

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<v Speaker 1>like stupid woman you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Never call You would never call a man a twat,

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<v Speaker 3>Actually you would. I do all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But but then there's twit, which is very no.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like, that's very polite.

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<v Speaker 3>That's who then would ever say that No twit twitters

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Start Twitter is for like the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 2>public British public schoolboys might say or their parents might

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<v Speaker 2>say to them. It's a politely but twat is still

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<v Speaker 2>not that bad Like twat is just like that guy's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit I guess it's as similar with jerk, like

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<v Speaker 2>the way you'd call someone a jerk, Okay, we call

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<v Speaker 2>them a twat, yeah right, But that like those those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of words are quite British words. And you like

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<v Speaker 2>British comedy because you like you were saying that you

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<v Speaker 2>really like staff Lets Flats, yes, right, and that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that show is quite a cult show even here, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite a niche show here where I mean, where

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<v Speaker 2>have you? Where did you? Is that showing in the

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<v Speaker 2>States or you just found out on lone?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my friend, my Irish friend who lives in London,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you have to check out this show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and like we watched the whole like first

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<v Speaker 1>season and then uh and yeah, and then turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that dude Jamie has like been to my shows before.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm just like obsessed with it and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did I How did I miss out on like

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<v Speaker 1>this entire beautiful universe of comedy And also and it

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<v Speaker 1>like reminds me of stuff over here.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you guys have like Tim and Eric?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a Comedy Central thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I don't know, I feel like they've

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<v Speaker 1>been on tons of stuff I like originally like on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure they had a legit TV show anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes so perfectly with so much of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>American comedy and it's almost like Curb your Enthusiasm or something,

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<v Speaker 1>just like or or Nathan for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that whole genre, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Dimitri who writes and is and is staff from

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's fact. Didn't he come? Was it your house

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<v Speaker 2>he came to? Or was it a friend's house?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>My friend brought him to my like birthday hangout without

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, and I had just watched like the night before,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was sweet. I love I love when the

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<v Speaker 1>universe feels small in that way. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he was?

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<v Speaker 1>He?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he cool? Were you cool?

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<v Speaker 1>He literally made me, I mean me and my other

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<v Speaker 1>friends who are listening to him like he he literally

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<v Speaker 1>made me a pee a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like like I was just like, that's that

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<v Speaker 1>super I'm sure it's so embarrassing and it happens to

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<v Speaker 1>him all the time, but I wanted everybody around to

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<v Speaker 1>like just listen to him talk, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was pissing myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see Fleabag?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah? His his part in Fleaback, although so small,

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<v Speaker 2>is just incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>He's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>The reveal of his teeth when he's on the bus

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<v Speaker 2>is an amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's just a fucking genius. Yeah, like just

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<v Speaker 1>an honor to share the same name. I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something I did not grow up with, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Partridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you not do you like it? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just crazy how huge it is over there and

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<v Speaker 1>how like maybe you'd hear about it in passing over here,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, I eat that shit up like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure tons of comedy that's been inspired by Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Coogan and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But like the fact that it's a household.

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<v Speaker 1>Name over there is very weird because yeah, because it

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<v Speaker 1>would crush over here and.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's weird. I never kind of it never reached you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it just has never been shown. It's never made

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<v Speaker 2>it onto TV.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I think I saw it on streaming the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also saw stufflet's flats on like HBO or

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what, but but yeah, I was like, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what I fucking love.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this country?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, that made that makes me cry in like

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<v Speaker 1>the just like bent over laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm basically trying to go through things that we've not

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about because it's weird. It's kind of already weird

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<v Speaker 2>that we're having the same conversations twice we just pretended

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<v Speaker 2>we'd never spoken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but do you know what interviews are? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is fun because it's a conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>but my life is being like, so when did you

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<v Speaker 1>start playing music? I know, and I think at this

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<v Speaker 1>point I have convinced myself that I'm answering it differently

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<v Speaker 1>every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you do you think you do a good

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<v Speaker 2>job of pretending even when it's just the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you good at styling it out and making it

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<v Speaker 2>seem like you're interested?

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to believe that I'm good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have definitely said the exact same anecdote in like

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<v Speaker 1>back to back interviews or something which is kind of humiliating,

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<v Speaker 1>with like the exact same punctuation or like nuance that

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like a fucking Rolling Stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Interview is exactly the same as my pitchwork interview. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I tell the same stupid story about my

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<v Speaker 1>pants falling down somewhere or whatever, and it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>does this person have a personality?

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<v Speaker 3>But my favorite one.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, because sometimes when you're on press trips it gets

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<v Speaker 1>really gnarly because it's just like over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over in the same day. My favorite one that happened

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<v Speaker 1>was a Better Oblivion Community Center was doing our press

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<v Speaker 1>trip and we were in an interview where they asked

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<v Speaker 1>us the exact same question that had been asked in

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<v Speaker 1>like every interview.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even remember it was at this point, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you know, a sort of similar question

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<v Speaker 1>to what they asked earlier in the interview, like how

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys meet or why did you guys decide

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<v Speaker 1>to join a band?

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<v Speaker 3>Or whatever it was?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and we've been doing so many that Connor

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<v Speaker 1>literally with the exact same tone answer, like gave the

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<v Speaker 1>same answer that he gave to like two questions before

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<v Speaker 1>in the same interview, like told the same story. It

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<v Speaker 1>just and I was like, this is this is really

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<v Speaker 1>fucking with our brains, Like having to have the same

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<v Speaker 1>conversation you within the conversation, you think it's a new answer.

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<v Speaker 2>From now on. Let's say, right, if I ask you

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<v Speaker 2>anything and you're sick of answering it, just say no, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>hold your hand up, so we're not we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of the game though, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And also, just like.

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<v Speaker 1>I I've always hated the like so much of the

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote rock star personality is just.

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<v Speaker 3>Being a dick to like people.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone's being a dick to me, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>problem saying, excuse me, but go fuck yourself. Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely had some questions where I was like what

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, But if someone's like, especially if it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a younger woman who's very nervous to be interviewing me,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ask questions that someone just asked, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>just be nice, like this is important. This isn't Like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're touring around like a college or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I know a bunch of musicians that would

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, what the fuck are these questions?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this person's day right now, is what they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do for their job. Yeah, So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like being nice is the But I also just trashing

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel room, what is that? Like? You're just making

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<v Speaker 1>someone with a fucking shitty job clean up after you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not like sticking it to the man. You're sticking

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<v Speaker 1>it to like someone with children.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think people want to just get home?

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<v Speaker 1>I know people still do that for sure, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just I heard like a story about

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<v Speaker 1>the Replacements like tracking shit into a very fancy party,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, do you think the fancy people had

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to pick that up? Like, no, it was like dog

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<v Speaker 1>shit or something. I was like, that's stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>At the top of your Twitter profile, that picture never

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<v Speaker 2>fails to make me laugh, which is like two pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of you holding up Bonivit records. We were a Bonabert

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt and pulled up over your kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>so your face is poking out through.

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<v Speaker 3>The neck hug Cornholio.

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<v Speaker 2>Where was that taken?

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<v Speaker 3>Beavs and Butad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was probably seventeen and it was taken

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<v Speaker 1>in my childhood bedroom after a Bona Air show. It

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<v Speaker 1>was for the Yeah, I definitely was seventeen because that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the self titled album came out and I got

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<v Speaker 1>home from that show and took those photos.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it really sums up the experience of being

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<v Speaker 2>a seventeen year old having just listened to a of

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<v Speaker 2>their record you haven't worked with, justin of.

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<v Speaker 3>You I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I sang on on the People record and we

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<v Speaker 1>actually played the Apollo in London. He's the best, and

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<v Speaker 1>I played his festival in Euclaire. Yeah, he's so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>In those moments, do you do you think back to

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<v Speaker 2>the seventeen year old who had that? Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>back to that photo?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I love I love that feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I also just like, you know, normalizing being a super fan,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my new my New Year's resolution this year,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think I've stuck to, is just like be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with people and and be.

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<v Speaker 3>Be yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but seriously, just like there's nothing more fun than

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<v Speaker 1>than working with somebody and then getting to tell them

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:04.719
<v Speaker 1>after where it's like, dude, I seriously saw every LA

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>show that you played. I wrote Bonnie verir lyrics like

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:14.439
<v Speaker 1>on my guitar case when I was fucking fifteen dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they tend to take that like like, I think

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 2>that's really nice that you do that. I think that's

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 2>like I would like to do that. This kind of

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 2>comes back to this thing of like being like a

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>journalist quote unquote. I use that term on myself very

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<v Speaker 2>loosely but I feel like I can never say that

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody. I can never say, by the way, even

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 2>at the end, I can't say, by the way, I'm

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 2>such a big fan of yours, it really means a lot.

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they're gonna think I'm lying because I'm

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 2>an evil journalist now right, But I think I guess

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:47.479
<v Speaker 2>as a as a fellow artist, it's maybe a bit

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 2>easier for you to say, hey, by the way, this

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>means everything to me, and for them to not cringe

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>themselves inside out and be sick on you.

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, also, do I just love that shit?

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>When it is genuine, I'm not gonna I definitely have

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>heard it from people where I'm like no, or or

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 1>my favorite is when people.

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Are like my girlfriend loves your music, like cool, yeah,

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 3>like why am I talking to you that?

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Or like I can't wait till like until I start

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>getting my mom loves your music, or and shit. Yeah,

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, when it feels genuine and that's my

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>that's there's like my favorite interactions with people because I

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>have crazy imposter syndrome and I'm I'm just like, does

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>anybody actually like.

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Me at all?

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>So so it's nice when somebody's like, hey, this is

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>this is really fucking cool or whatever, like those are

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 1>normal interactions. But I know for a fact I've definitely

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>punished people before. But but yeah, it's for the most part,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just fucking music.

0:25:59.520 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>All you're saying is your music excites me and I

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>like it. That's a great thing.

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>That's the worst thing to say. Yeah, exactly. So here's

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 2>one thing. Here's a thing that I thought we could

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 2>do to make sure that this will definitely mean that

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.199
<v Speaker 2>we don't repeat ourselves before. We used to do this

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>feature in our magazine. We don't do it anymore, but

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>it's called it was called getting to Know You, and

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 2>we'd send a set of questions to an artist. I'd

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 2>be the same questions every I basically stole this idea

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 2>from Vanity Fair. Okay, we just called it something different,

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's the same questions. We'd email them to an

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 2>artist and that's filled them out and send them back

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 2>like a questionnaire. Do you want to do some of them?

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the worst job you've had. By the way, these

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>are probably all questions that you have been asked about

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 2>a thousand times. I've just realized that in saying that

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>out loud.

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 3>But but I have an interesting answer.

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I have really never held a job, okay, except for weird,

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>odd jobs. Like basically, when I graduated high school, I

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>got cast in a commercial like almost immediately, which was

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>incredible because then I got to because I was looking

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>for jobs and.

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Apple, what yeah, you're.

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Gonna say like it was a local chop.

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Totally, no, I mean, this is the fucking weird dystopian

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is Los Angeles. But I was playing in

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>bass in a punk band and somebody came up to

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>me and was like, we do audition for this commercial

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:40.479
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, huh, you know, I mean sure, whatever,

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and then turns out it's like super super legit and

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>we got it and we did it, which basically paid

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>for me to live while making my first record, Like

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't sign until you know, my parents don't have money,

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and again I didn't have a fucking job.

0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 3>So it was amazing.

0:27:59.560 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>That was all.

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 3>So that was definitely not the worst job I've ever had,

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 3>because it was like, that's the best job it was,

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 3>So it was the best job.

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 2>That's better than this job? Did you totally did you

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>have to? So in the ad it's like a TV ad. Right, yeah,

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>did you what were what were you doing when you

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>were playing in the back?

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we played and sang a Pixie song into an iPhone.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It was sick.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And and then I was like, because I think some

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>of the instruments had been pre recorded, and I was like, oh,

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this is like, I'm sure this is uh

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>just like some session dudes like, but they're trying to

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>make it look like it's teenage girls. Like that's kind

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of shitty, but whatever. And then I met the session

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>players and they were all women.

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 3>So it was sick. But anyway, so that was great.

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>But before that, I would busk in high school for

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>money every weekend.

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>This is in the market, right, yeah, like in.

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 3>The arms market.

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I would play my guitar and put put out my

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>guitar case and people would throw money in there.

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 3>And some of it was so great.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Some of it was super fun and like little kids

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>would dance and I would try not to sing any

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>fucked up songs or curse because I just knew like

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of an endless amount of covers and then it

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>but but then it was also horrible, like the things

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that people think that they can say to you when

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you're standing on the street playing for free, are like

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>insane and you just have to be kind of like

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>nice to everybody, and you're stuck there and you're gonna,

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>i mean just like I don't know, like grabbing at

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>me or like standing really close behind me, like giving

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>me advice about music. Yeah, it's just like an invitation

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.239
<v Speaker 1>for older men to be like heinous to you.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Have you have you been asked that question about how

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>million times?

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I think so?

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm always embarrassed to be like, I never clean

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>bathrooms or whatever. I think that's kind of rite of passage.

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah.

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to skip the next one because you definitely

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>would have been asked that. I'm gonna ask you, what

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 2>was your first big extravagance.

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Ooh, that's a good one.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I think my mom got This doesn't really count because

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I asked for Fioran Tinian Baker boots for Christmas, which

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>are fucking expensive, and my mom fucking got them for

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>me for Christmas.

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 3>She was kind of the queen of an amazing gift.

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Was definitely the first extravagant thing in my life and

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I wore them to shit. I still have them, but

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>they're like they make this horrifying sound. I was probably

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>like fourteen when I got those, which is insane. Why

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>would you get a fourteen year old expensive boots?

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>But your moment is coming out of this podcast extremely

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>well as the hero sheez. This is kind of a

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>podcast for her now. Really she's hijacked it without even

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>being here.

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But I saw Patti Smith and she was wearing them,

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, those are mine. Now, Sorry, everyone,

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to rest until I give my hands

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>on those.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 3>And then I got them for Christmas.

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Since you've become a millionaire rock star, what was have

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you bought anything? Have you? I mean, are you good

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>at spending money? Do you? Are you a saver or

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you a spender?

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a spender. I don't have that much overhead, Like

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't have very many expenses, especially in a pandemic

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>year where I am lucky enough. I mean, I definitely

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>would be making way more money if I were on tour,

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>but I'm lucky enough to have at least some semblance

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of a job, and so I've definitely like woken up

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>at three am and bought something super weird online. And

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>in normal times, I like adventures, you know, like I'll

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>go to a fancy hotel with all my friends and

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>spend trash it is hanging out, yeah, and and and

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>then make the bed when I'm leaving you. No, but

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I love spending money. It's it's it makes

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>me feel good. I'm staring at like one of those

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>dip teak candles right now. I feel like the amount

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of times I just am sad and I just buy

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>dipteek candles online and then have them shipped to me

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and I forget, and then three days later I'm like, oh,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I bought me a present.

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, those candles are kind of the height of

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>extravagance in a way.

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Seriously, seriously.

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I also there was a tweet once that was like

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a mom, who's coming over tonight me and then it

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>was a picture of one of their candles that's called

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>few to boys. That kind of crush.

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, next question the who would play you in a

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>film of your life?

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Breelsen?

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Done right? Yeah?

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean the amount of times that I get tagged

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>in like Breelarson photos where she kind of looks like me.

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Is like that's that's good though, right, That's like it's good.

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>She's hot or same with Michelle Williams. People I get

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Michelle Williams. Sometimes I'm like, I'll take it hot. Hot

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>leads with awards.

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>This is a happy one. How would you choose to die?

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Mm?

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 3>Not knowing? Yeah, that's want someone to shoot me in

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 3>the back of the head.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 2>That is that is exactly mine? Sniper.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Wow, Yes, because totally it's the I.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Just even if it happened right now while we were

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>on this, I would never know who cares it would

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 2>it would never have been a concern of mine at

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 2>any point.

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Totally.

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad we're on the same page on that one.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Don't know how many indie rock snipers are out there,

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>but just so you know, I'm hiring you in I

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know in.

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna go there.

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, like, yeah, if I have some

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of eternal illness, just like fucking I want it

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>back in the head.

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 2>What would you tell your fifteen year old self?

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is so funny because I did

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>not fifteen year old self. That's a slightly different question,

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>but I got this question sort of a while ago

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>where it was like, what would you tell your younger self?

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And I went on this huge grant about how I

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>would tell myself that, like all men are pigs and that,

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, I would tell myself which

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.839
<v Speaker 1>is true. I would tell myself like if someone, if

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>an older man is like producing you or trying to

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>sign you or do something for you, just know that

0:34:55.840 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you are why they are cool and they are trying

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to be cool with association to you. They are not

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>cool because they fucking produced the Goo Goo dolls like

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>before you were fucking born. Like that doesn't matter, you

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like they are trying that's the

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Google dolls.

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 3>They haven't done.

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Shit is so long, Like just just know that, like

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you are their next grasping at relevance and you have

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>all the control, even though they are trying to make

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you feel like they have all the control and they're

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>doing you an enormous favor. You being in the room

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>is the only reason that anybody gives a shit about

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the room.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 3>So uh, I went on that big rant.

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>And then my very sweet and older male producer who

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I continue to work with uh and refuse to do

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>any projects without.

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 3>His name's Tony Berg. He's a fucking legend.

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But he sent me a strange shot of it and

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>was basically like what the fuck? I was like, I

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>am definitely not talking about you, Like these are people

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that I like met once and then blew off, or

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>people who sent me a shitty record contract when I

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>was like eighteen and is not the person who I

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.240
<v Speaker 1>like beg to work with every time I get offered

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>any sort of project. But he sent me like like

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>me and quotes. So I got kind of in trouble.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 2>For Has he produced the Dolfs as well?

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I mean, god, I hope not.

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>If he had, I would it would be so so funny.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I wouldn't put it past them because

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>he he's been in music forever and he also like

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>ran Geffen Records forever, and he's worked with all kinds

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of funny people. But I think of him mostly as

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>a producer.

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 3>But that killed me.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Like that he's like reading my interviews in the middle

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of the night for one, but two is like reading

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>into this rant I went on about people I don't

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>know anymore. Yeah, it was so funny.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's that is great advice for your youngest self.

0:36:58.360 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that does prove the fact that you have

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 2>asked that already totally proves my point. There's no original question,

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>is there? Had you been asked how sometimes how you

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 2>choose to die before?

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 3>That?

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Was it original? Right?

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so that was original.

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes when people try to get too fancy, when

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>people try to get too fancy or like heady with questions,

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I mean the true I feel like, if

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I were a journalist would be like, well, what do I.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Actually want to know about?

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 3>And if it's like the same question, if.

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>It's googleable whatever, But like if if you're curious about something,

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like who gives a shit?

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes I do get like grad students who are like, so,

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, the imagery of the Pelicans circling is an

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>ancient Mayan thing about death or what.

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, so should we do the Einstein's Dirty

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Secret stuff? Or are you sick of that?

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Sure?

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Right? I mean, I mean I've basically forgotten to segue

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 2>into it. I was going to say the fifteen thing,

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 2>we were going to talk about that, and then I

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>was going to segue into that.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, my first band was called Phoebe and the He

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Man He That's a name which is a great name,

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, and then I had Einstein's Dirty Secret,

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>which I'm still friends with, like all those dudes they

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>play and like, yeah, it's great.

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 2>That is something we did talk about before because I

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 2>had watched the live stuff. There's one live show that's

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube of you playing in that band when you're

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 2>about seventeen, right, and you'll look kind of have like

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 2>some real panic at the disco hair going on. The

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>guys and yourself, Oh you all look great. You're wearing

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>really good suits. It's strong. I think I'm not just

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>saying that. I thought it was good. But what I

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize was you because obviously Julian Baker is a

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>close friend of yours and you're in Boy Genius with

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 2>her and all of that stuff. But I didn't realize

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 2>it was her going on tour with her that made

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>you realize, actually, that's the type of music I want

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:05.479
<v Speaker 2>to make.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Totally. Yeah, it's true.

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I sang really loud for a long time,

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 1>which is funny because then I feel like I totally

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>revolted from that and there's no loud singing whatsoever on

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>my first record because I was like on and off

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>tour with Julian and I just was like, oh, this

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>is the most powerful music I've ever heard. But it

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>was almost like musical theater when I was seventeen, you know,

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like Panic at the disco musical theater.

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 2>So when you went on that tour with that first

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>tour with Julian, were you on that tour doing like

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 2>the panic at the disco stuff?

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I was.

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I was on tour with my drummer Marshall and just

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>me right and we were like, you know, it was

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>crazy to even have drums.

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Opening for Julian because she was totally solo.

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So I was pretty much like writing my first record,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like all the good songs for my first record I

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>wrote on that tour, which is crazy in retrospect because

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I was playing a full set of like my okay

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>songs and then I feel like I heard Julian and

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, that's that's what I do now.

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Your first album was it was its birthday this week

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 2>about three days ago. Yes, three years ago. The world

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 2>has imploded since then. What was the day like it

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>came out? Can you remember what it was like?

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>You know? I think I was on tour with Connor

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Overst and it's funny because I told him the other day.

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, dude, my first record came out three

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Fucking crazy is that because he met me

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>way before that, because I was going to mix with

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Mike Mogus and that's how we met Who's in Bright Eyes.

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, that's so crazy because it was

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he had been listening to it for like a year

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>before it came out.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 3>And he helped me sequence it.

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>And it just just the fact that my life is

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>so different. I had this feeling before my first record,

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>or I really wanted it to be true, Like in

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>my darkest, most secret moments, was like, I think my

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>life is going to start if I can just have

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 1>an album, because I really want to be a musician.

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>But like I have this fucking seven inch with three

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>songs on it. Nobody knows what my music sounds like.

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I barely know what it sounds like.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I just need a record so that if someone asked.

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Me what I do, I don't have to like send

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>them my SoundCloud demos or like try to explain it.

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I can just show them this record. And that is

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely true. Like I feel like my life started. I

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>started doing what I wanted. I stopped having to explain myself.

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of a slow burn too, Like the

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>label was like, we look at first week album sales

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>and we all like laugh at it.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 3>So like nobody listened to.

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Your fucking record, and were you tell the number?

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't told the number, but they were laughing when

0:41:54.080 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>they told me about the number. So so yeah, I mean,

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I've played like a hundred cap show in London.

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 3>It just it's been great.

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It's been fucking great, Like it makes me super happy

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and just yeah, like everything I thought about it was true,

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>which is I got to do what I wanted. After that,

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I got to make a band of my favorite people

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and touring and then and then I feel like this

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>record is even better because I got way more comfortable.

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so highly recommend makes you feel good about yourself.

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Put out a record for a record, Wait three years,

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 2>it will all be fine, exactly. I like the fact

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that your label probably I'm guessing they told you that

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 2>they were laughing at those first week numbers. Well do

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 2>they tell you that fairly recently or certainly yes, quite

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 2>far after the fact.

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bet they were crying at the time.

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 2>They were like, it's fine for them to tell you now, right,

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 2>but totally at the time they were worried there were

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 2>meetings about you. There would have been meetings about you,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 2>and yes, like, what are we going to do here?

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 3>What should we do about her?

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm conscious of the fact that what that we're only recorded,

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>we're recording this for a second time anyway, and you've

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>got things to do, So I'm going to let you go.

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I was going to I don't think we're gonna we

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>probably don't have time. But we were talking about us

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>both being Leo's before because you just had your birthday

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>and I just had my birthday. What was the name

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 2>of the You told me about an app that can

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>basically it's called Coastar.

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 3>It's the best coast.

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Because I have found out the time I was born.

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh cool, you should go.

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Why did I need? What was the thing I needed

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>for that? For? What did that? What was that going

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 2>to tell me?

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>It'll tell you your chart and it'll give you very

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>bitchy notifications every day, like, let me tell you what

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.240
<v Speaker 1>my chart says today.

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Let's see. Come on.

0:43:57.120 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, my I'm Leo Capricorn moon, I he's rising.

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.720
<v Speaker 3>What does it say today? Updates.

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>You can't be everything for everyone. That's what mine says

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>today Today, I feel out of control, sick. That's great news.

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, but it's really cute and it looks kind

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of like a zine.

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Wow that okay, I can see that.

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It's very fun and uh and you can see your

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>friends that you match with. I'm actually a perfect match

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:28.879
<v Speaker 1>with my sound guy.

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, maybe we'll get married one day. Like

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>that'll be like the story of like, do you know

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>she's married to her sound guy.

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:38.720
<v Speaker 2>He's a catch, He's a babe.

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>His name is Morgan. Yeah, I'm gonna lock it in.

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we literally have nothing, uh in common. We

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>have everything in common common. There is no section on

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>here that is dissimilar from each other. We're like the

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>same person.

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like marrying.

0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wish I would love to do because I'm

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 3>a fucking.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Well absolutely amen, Amen to that. Well, thanks for thanks

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 2>for take two. I think it was good. I think

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 2>it's good. I've been shaking that, I've been recording and

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.280
<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, and I just wanted to say that my

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend really loves your music.

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Well tell her I love it and I'll be over

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 3>later tonight.

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 2>That was such a terrible choke. I'm sorry for ending,

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry for ending on that good anyway, good night,