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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. And

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Speaker 1: the first things first, let's we need to go ahead

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Speaker 1: mention that we do have a new email address. If

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Speaker 1: at Discovery dot com. Previous one was at how stuff

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Speaker 1: works dot com, So it's the same email address, just

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Speaker 1: at a different domain, Discovery. That's right, you go. The mothership. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: speaking of motherships. Um, we are of course talking about

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Speaker 1: Virgin Galactic in this particular episode. Uh, And I guess

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Speaker 1: we were kind of uh excited to discuss this again

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Speaker 1: because just last week and there was a story that

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Speaker 1: was suddenly everywhere and I think it like it originated

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Speaker 1: like the Sun or something like if you track it

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Speaker 1: down to a tour it was. It was a British tabloid,

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Speaker 1: but but still the idea got people talking because the

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Speaker 1: idea was that record executives were interested in sending jay

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Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce um up into a sub orbit aboard

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Speaker 1: spaceship to the Virgin Galactic Space Tourism vessel so they

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Speaker 1: could shoot a video. It's a wonderfully Um, It's just

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Speaker 1: it's such a fun idea because I mean there's so

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Speaker 1: many different angles. I don't know, there's sort of the

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Speaker 1: one percent angle of just jay Z and Beyonce dropping

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Speaker 1: four thousand dollars just to go into space and not

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Speaker 1: look out the window. Like, I find that amazing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The idea also of them going into orbit and and

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Speaker 1: maybe being a little stick al right, having their little

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Speaker 1: vomit bags. Yeah, yeah, you know, and then and then

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Speaker 1: trying to shoot a video around that I find kind

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Speaker 1: of amusing. And I just the idea of jay Z

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Speaker 1: and space is of course fantastic, especially if Beyonce it

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Speaker 1: feels a little ill and Kanye ends up going up

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Speaker 1: with him instead. You know, that's the one time that

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Speaker 1: I would really want to be an extra. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd totally be an extra on that video. Are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: I mean, not only are you uh, you know, going

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Speaker 1: celebrities vomit on themselves. Yeah, and don't normally have to

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Speaker 1: pay pay quite a premium for that. What you'd be

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Speaker 1: paying for quite a premium for that. I would be

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Speaker 1: wiping vomit off my face. I just realized, So maybe

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Speaker 1: I need to rethink that. But here's the deal. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a possibility. It's it's right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Virgin Galactic has been saying that they're in the final

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Speaker 1: phase of creating this great vessel and their spaceport, and

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Speaker 1: some people are saying, well, maybe it'll happen in although

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Speaker 1: more most likely will be but you know, with the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Bace Shuttle program being put this is something to look

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Speaker 1: forward to. Yeah, I mean, and I've I've spoken with

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Speaker 1: interviewed Stephen Attenborough, the commercial director for Virgin Galactica back

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Speaker 1: and I also talked to Virgin Galactic CEO George Whitesides,

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Speaker 1: and uh, and they were both, you know, they were

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Speaker 1: it going up? What's the date, and they're they're very

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Speaker 1: hesitant to to throw it out any kind of date

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Speaker 1: because then, you know, they if they say it's going

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Speaker 1: suddenly be sort of feel kind of beholden to that date,

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Speaker 1: and this is not something they want to rush. They

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Speaker 1: talking about, uh, traveling into SubOrbit. We're talking about traveling

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Speaker 1: into space. Uh monumental you know first when we actually

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Speaker 1: have the first commercial virgin plactic flight take off. So

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Speaker 1: you know, they wanted to to look to work perfectly

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Speaker 1: well in a business model too, right yeah. Um, So,

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Speaker 1: This is not the astronaut program. This is space tourism,

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Speaker 1: the ultimate roller coaster for for a variety of ages. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if Granny wants to go into the SubOrbit, Granny gets

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Speaker 1: the way that Branson describes it, which is the sexiest

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Speaker 1: So that's another way important thing to keep in mind

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Speaker 1: when you're laughing at the prospect of of paying two

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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, Well, and then all sudden me

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Speaker 1: if our ten year old listeners, because I'm sure we've

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Speaker 1: maybe the tickets a thousand bucks by then, who knows

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Speaker 1: in a generation they'll take this for granted, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. But in terms of suborbital flight, another reason

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Speaker 1: maybe even how petty uh any of our different is

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Speaker 1: are on Earth. A number of people have written about this,

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Speaker 1: most famously the the no Tech science guy. No Edic

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Speaker 1: Sciences founder um edgar Mitchell talks about this because apparently

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Speaker 1: He described the sensation um of looking at at the

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Speaker 1: check out our podcast on the overview effect. But again,

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Speaker 1: entertainers like jay Z, like Kanye, go into SubOrbit, experience

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Speaker 1: this and be changed. Not because I think there's anything

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Speaker 1: but I would love to see Space jay Z and

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Speaker 1: that that be for someone to take, For someone's whole

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Speaker 1: creative flow to be reinvigorated by the overview effect, how

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Speaker 1: would that affect their creative output? Well, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: silly about it. But oh, you're right, you're right. Maybe

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Speaker 1: and that's just not something that's going to happen with

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Speaker 1: and body. Now once space hotels are actually a possibility,

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Speaker 1: Howard Johnson's yeah, ho Jon Space. Alright, Well, let's uh,

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Speaker 1: as long as subsequent classes didn't try and exploit this

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