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Speaker 1: our Friday morning Colin Coward Podcast. NBA Trade deadline Listen.

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Speaker 1: Two things that jumped out to me Chicago, the Bulls

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Speaker 1: doubled down on Zach Levine. Bottom line is they got

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Speaker 1: an All Star from Orlando Vussovich who's having a good year.

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Speaker 1: They're saying, Zach Levine is our guy. We're sticking with him.

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Speaker 1: We just need to get him another All Star. That

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Speaker 1: jumped out to me, Good day for Zach Levine. The

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Speaker 1: organization's going all in. The second thing that jumped out

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Speaker 1: to me was Aaron Gordon, a very athletic, springy forward

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Speaker 1: going to the Denver Nuggets. That's a real move. You

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Speaker 1: can do a lot with Aaron both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 1: So you've got the joker, You've got Jamal Murray, your

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Speaker 1: young star who had a great bubble tournament. You've got

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Speaker 1: Michael Porter, a very athletic big and now you've got

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Speaker 1: in Aaron Gordon from Orlando, a very active on both

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Speaker 1: ends wing. That's a real basketball team. I mean that

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Speaker 1: to me is a team that can challenge the Lakers

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Speaker 1: athletically on the wing, you can put somebody on Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Utah Portland do not have wing players to defend Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Denver now does, and the Clippers do. So I thought

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Speaker 1: that was a very savvy move by the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: They got better. The Chicago Bulls in the East and

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets in the West got better. I do

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Speaker 1: like Victor Oladipo to the Miami Heat. He's a veteran

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Speaker 1: plays defense. That's a very young team in Miami. You know,

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Speaker 1: pat Riley's been doing this long enough. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: been deal making and playing chess where most of the

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Speaker 1: guys in the league are playing checkers for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So the Bulls got better, Miami slightly better, and Denver

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Speaker 1: absolutely better. Today we're bringing in my buddy Rich Paul,

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Speaker 1: founder and CEO of Klutch Sports Group, represents Lebron, Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 1: Draymond Greene, Ben Simmons, John Wall. We've argued from time

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Speaker 1: to time. If I have a strong NBA opinion and

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Speaker 1: it's one of his clients and I say something he

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Speaker 1: doesn't like, Rich always reaches out and he joins us.

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Speaker 1: Now took a different route to become one of the

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Speaker 1: most powerful agents in America. The greatest compliment, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: you can pay anybody is calling them a disruptor. I

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Speaker 1: love disruptors, and Rich Paul has done that in his business,

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Speaker 1: and we bring him on just as the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: passes a busy day? So what is the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: like for you? Is it like tax day for an accountant? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's like tax day for an accountant. It's like uh,

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Speaker 1: you know probably you know, first day at school for

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Speaker 1: a principle. It's just you know, it's busy. You know,

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Speaker 1: even if you don't have guys being traded or whatnot,

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Speaker 1: the phones is always working, you always, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just information flying all over the places, like you know,

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Speaker 1: air traffic control through through guide phone, you know. But

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Speaker 1: you know, look, trades happen. That's the business, you know.

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Speaker 1: And from my perspective college, it's always just about trying

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Speaker 1: to make sure guys are aware, you know, You're not

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Speaker 1: going to get everything in real time all the time,

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Speaker 1: but you try to be ahead of things. And we

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Speaker 1: had a few guys get moved. Was able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of let them know, hey, this is a possibility,

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Speaker 1: it's real and if it happens, it's part of the business.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you pack your bags, you get to

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Speaker 1: the next destination, and you come in as a professional

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Speaker 1: ready to work. That's part of it. Do you ever

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Speaker 1: get into a situation I saw a rumor on my show.

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Speaker 1: I said, I heard Laker's interest in Kyle Lowry and

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Speaker 1: and I said, who woa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

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Speaker 1: I said, he's a big shot maker. I doubted him

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Speaker 1: said I was wrong, and I was. I now think

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Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that Lebron can trust. He's

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Speaker 1: you know, you can give you opinion, but you also

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Speaker 1: it's not about Sometimes it's about today, but sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: He played well, he was compensated for it. He has

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Speaker 1: a championship, and again it's a professional man. Things happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't try to control everything. That's not my job.

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Speaker 1: The GEM and the ownership group have to do their job,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes you get in situations that may not look

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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon to Denver was an interesting move between Yoki's

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Speaker 1: down to he went to Orlando and it's a bad

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Speaker 1: unhappy and they moved him to Denver. That move jumped

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Speaker 1: And so look again, it's a great opportunity for Aaron.

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Speaker 1: when you called your client Aaron Gordon and you go

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Speaker 1: we got something cooking here. If I could do in

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Speaker 1: Aaron's happy. And Denver's a great city, and he's with

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you were Initially there was fear about Rich Paul. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Rich Paul? Disruptor. He's gonna move guys around.

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Speaker 1: And so the disruption part cold, I wasn't upset about that.

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Speaker 1: Apple was a disruptor. Feel Night was a disruptor. Jeff

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Speaker 1: best point guards our league I've ever seen. You got

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Speaker 1: Sharipop do a right him been great. If you're betting

422
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Speaker 1: on development and you're coming in with that mindset that

423
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: I want to come in and I want to understand

424
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Speaker 1: all the things I need to do to better myself

425
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: as a professional basketball player. Then that's your route. The

426
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: overseas part, I'm not even focused on that. I'm just

427
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: going to focus on these, these these two things. Yeah, Okay,

428
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: there is no right or wrong. But what there is

429
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: is when you sit down with your team, and I'll

430
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: say this to all young players and their teams, you

431
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: have to be realistic in your position. Okay, if you're

432
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: talking about this all this marketing, that's all well and danny,

433
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: but when you watch TV. I just saw Reggie Miller

434
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Speaker 1: on the Wendy's commercial, Right, Why because Wendy's don't have

435
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: to worry about Reggie Miller going out here and do anything.

436
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: Because when Reggie gets done with his work, he's going

437
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: home very low risk. By the way, he's a Hall

438
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: of Famer, Right. They rather spend the dollars there. They're

439
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: not really spending the dollars, you know, on the kid

440
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: who may slip up and put something on a snapchat

441
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: on the Instagram. It's a different world. What the problem

442
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: I got is the ages today, they're not telling these

443
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: families this. They're saying, oh, we can do it, we

444
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: can do it, we can do it, we can do it,

445
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: we can do it, and then you do nothing. It's

446
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: okay to educate them, educate the player, educate the pair,

447
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: and if they walk out of your door for telling

448
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: them the truth, so be it. Hey, you just got

449
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: the live I mean you and I have talked about

450
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: this privately. There have been clients that you had to

451
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: pass on, like guys that want to make your money.

452
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: Made you money, absolutely, absolutely, and and and and but

453
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: one thing about it. I want to have my respect first.

454
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: I want to have my dignity and I have to

455
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 1: do things with integrity because prime example, Rich Paul, you know,

456
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: once the two pages out there, two it's too hard

457
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Speaker 1: to put it back in. And as as as an

458
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: old widy veteran, Mark Termany was told me, okay, so

459
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: now this stuff goes on the internet. Rich Paul turned

460
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: down seventy million dollars from Narolas. Nowell, what are you

461
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: talking about? The we signed Arlers August in August, the

462
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: free agency world is driving up. It's not a dollar

463
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: on the market in August. What are you talking about?

464
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: But again, that's out there in the atmosphere. Right, So

465
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: now you people take that piece of paper and they

466
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: run with it. Do I care to deny it one

467
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: way or the other? No, because I don't really give

468
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: a shit about it. But but the point is they're

469
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: more focused on that type of stuff than educating these

470
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: junk these families and these young men, because we don't

471
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: know how long they're gonna play. Right, think about it.

472
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: How many guys go top five, top two, top three

473
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Speaker 1: out the league. It's not guaranteed this stuff at the

474
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: snap of your finger. You have to get better every

475
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: year as a p and as a person. Now, every

476
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: league says what culture, culture, culture. Every organization is weird

477
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: about their culture. That's why when you see all this

478
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: list of guys and they can't get on the roster,

479
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: it's not because they can't play. It's because organizations are

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00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: weird about what this does to our culture. And we

481
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: rather not whereas years ago, as you know this, we've

482
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: seen it, right, We've seen guys come in locker rooms,

483
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: We've seen guys be really really really strong minded, tough

484
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: guys and when you put up with it, But nowadays

485
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: that's not happening, and so our whole business is changing,

486
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: and so it has to extend past the court. Um

487
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: agent and I've had in my whole life sometimes gets

488
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: a bad rap like, oh you've got an agent. Watch out.

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00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't like the word do you representation? I'd rather

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00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: use representation, yeah, because the agent makes me feel like

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00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm selling you insurance. I never come back. Yeah, when

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00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: you know it's interesting. Has anybody ever said to you, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean this other guy went to Wharton, he's got

494
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: an MBA. This other guy. What do you say to

495
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: a guy that says, man, this guy, this guy went

496
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Speaker 1: to Ivy League school. Rich you did? You didn't go

497
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: to an Ivy League school? What do you say to him? Right?

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Speaker 1: I didn't, And last time I checked, you know, most

499
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Speaker 1: IV League schools are in the final four either. But

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Speaker 1: I don't really say much because again, again, comparisons are

501
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Speaker 1: the things from joy. I don't do that. It's like

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Speaker 1: this man, Look, if you allow me to represent you,

503
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Speaker 1: I'm a representation at the highest level. Okay, you're gonna

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00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: be educated, you're gonna know things in a real time,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna hold each other accountable. I can't get

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Speaker 1: into what somebody else did, right, I can't get into

507
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: that because I've seen it time and time again. When

508
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: they do it, it's genius. When I do it, I'm

509
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: a bully, or it's because of this person, or you know,

510
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: you know he's not gonna be successful because now he's

511
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: wearing white out the labor day. I've heard every excuse

512
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: there is. They played every car. But my thing is

513
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: we just focus on us, and we've been successful. You know,

514
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Speaker 1: we have over thirty employees now and up to eighty

515
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: clients across two sports, which is which is fantastic, and

516
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Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure to work with the guys, see

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Speaker 1: him grow, see him save their money. But it's a challenge.

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Speaker 1: It's every when you care, Colin, it's an everyday job

519
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: when you care. If you don't care, hey, you represent

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Speaker 1: a guy until he signed his contract, and if he

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Speaker 1: signs it, you know, because here's what happens. These kids

522
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Speaker 1: are told X, Y and Z, and then what happens

523
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: is they get the money. So, now what you told

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Speaker 1: me you were gonna be able to do, I don't

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00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: even ask you about it anymore because I have the

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Speaker 1: money now I can look the part. I feel good,

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00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: I look good. I have the money. So but what

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Speaker 1: happened to all the things that I said I was

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Speaker 1: going to deliver. It's prolonged now because now your focus

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Speaker 1: turns into the big deal, right, and so now the

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Speaker 1: next three years you go and you know, get leading

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Speaker 1: up to the deal. Now here they come again. So

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00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: now once you get the max contract, now you don't

534
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: want to go anywhere. People say to me, oh, well,

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00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: if I heard him, my son go with you. You

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna have any time for them. Explain time?

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00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: What's time? Attention form? Well, how do you spell attention?

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Speaker 1: I know how I spell it r A s U

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00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: lt s. How do you spell attenion? It's a difference

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00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: in our business, and so we focus on something totally different.

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Speaker 1: I can't get into who went to what school because

542
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: again I went to a great school high school. That

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Speaker 1: is when I learned in my high school. I applied

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00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: it in college, which was pretty much learned the same thing.

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00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: But none of that. The OPT two triangle doesn't exist

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00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: in our real world, you know, knowing you know zodium

547
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: and the magnesium in the real world. You know, I

548
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: don't write anything in the MLA format that mister Frascioli

549
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: used to make me write on every paper I had anymore,

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00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: how would use any of that? So I don't get

551
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: into that. You are for whoever you're gonna be for

552
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: and in any room. I like our chances to the company,

553
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be honest and truthful with whomever. And look,

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00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: we know we can't represent everybody. We don't want to

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00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: represent everybody, but those we do, we're gonna represent you

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Speaker 1: through the highs and the lows, laugh fun while doing it,

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00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be friends and brothers and sisters much

558
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: longer than you play. And so that's what I look

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Speaker 1: forward to. All Right, Rachel, I want to ask you

560
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: about people you don't represent. So let's start with this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you could wrap a star athlete in another sport,

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Speaker 1: who would it be? I would probably say Tatis. Yeah,

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00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: because he's dynamic. I think he has an opportunity to

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00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: shine a light on baseball that's been missing for a

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00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: long time, the sexiness of it. He looks the part.

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Speaker 1: You can tell a cohol story with him. I think

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00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: he can be engaging in the community. I think he

568
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: can get kids to be back into the space. That's

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Speaker 1: a good answer. Yeah, I like that. Okay, next one,

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: the athlete from the past that you wish you could

571
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: have wrapped Alan Iverson. Oh why. One thing about AI

572
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: is people talk about Steph Curry changing the game of basketball,

573
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: and he did great person. Alan Iverson's impact on the

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00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: game of basketball post Michael Jordan was second to none. Okay,

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Speaker 1: from a culture perspective, right, Alan Iverson was relatable based

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00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: upon his size. He was dynamic. I was there in

577
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: those Cleveland days when the tickets was ten dollars and

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00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: it was one hundred people in the stands except for

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Speaker 1: when Alan Iverson came. It was sold out. You had

580
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Speaker 1: to go to the bar inside the arena to watch

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Speaker 1: the game. Okay. I believe if you take Alan Iverson

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Speaker 1: out of Georgetown, I want him. I want him prior

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Speaker 1: to being drafted to Philly number one. I want him

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Speaker 1: prior to them. Give me Alan Irison leaving Georgetown coming

585
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: into the league. I'm building a billion dollars business with

586
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Alan Irison today. There's no question about it. Still right now,

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Speaker 1: he had he would have his retro business with the

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Speaker 1: right product, would probably been second to Michaels today. Had

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Speaker 1: I represented having if Muhammad Ali was available on the

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00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: market today, he's out of the Olympics. What's the first company.

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00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: If you reffed him, you would have connected to Muhammad Ali.

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Speaker 1: It's a buffet. If you got Muhammad Ali today with

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Speaker 1: his again, his word playing, his insightfulness, by the way,

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: his his his approach to his profession, he was dynamic.

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00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: Everyone has to take a back seat to that. You know,

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00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: it's a boxer. It's it's it's it's it's again. I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't even I can't even begin to think of

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: where to begin with Muhammed Ali because when you when

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00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: you talk about brands, when you talk about outreach, when

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00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: you talk about community, when you talk about just his

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00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: ability to be in front of the camera, just Muhammed

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: Ali out of the ring next to Howard Cosell and

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00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: his dialogue. He was the people's champ. I remember telling

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00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Lebron this one time, and I say this to a

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00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: lot of young guys. You know, even in defeat, you

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00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: felt like Muhammed aligue on When when when did Muhammed

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00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Ali really ever lose? Right? He was a people's champ.

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Speaker 1: He was and and so that's a that's a tough

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Speaker 1: one for me, Kyle. I don't really have the best

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00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: for that one. But it would It would have been

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00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: a joy to work with Muhammed Ali. Hey, finally, I

612
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: want to ask you this that when I ask you

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00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: about Muhammad Ali, Muhammad Ali had the courage of his

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00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: convictions and would talk politics. Lebron similarly, he's not going

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00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: to duck anything as as a representative. Do you ever

616
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: worry about players going into a political sphere because it

617
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: does turn off some people. Yeah, you know, I don't

618
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: know if where's the right word, but you know, you

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Speaker 1: have to be sensitive to it. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: if that's what you believe in and that's what you're

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Speaker 1: passionate about, um, you know, hey, you have to speak

622
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: it because nowadays, more than any we are and you

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Speaker 1: are a major influence, and you give a lot of

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00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: people hope. You give a lot of you know, some

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00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: people get their education through the sports outlets or whatnot,

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00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: and their motivation as well, and so we see a

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00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: lot of things go on. The sad part about it

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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: is a lot of things that take place. Growing up

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Speaker 1: for me, Kylin was to know them. Things that's the

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00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: light shined on now happen every day in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: And so when you see those things transpired and you

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Speaker 1: It's important, and there should be light shined on it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of senses things that take place that

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Speaker 1: it's important for us to be very conscious of what's

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Speaker 1: other and support one another for who you are, how

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Speaker 1: you treat somebody, not how you look now, how much

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Speaker 1: money you may have or whatnot, but for pretty much

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Speaker 1: your character. And I think that we have a long

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Speaker 1: way to go. But it's a fight and again, and

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Speaker 1: I understand some people just don't know. Walk around my

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Speaker 1: you know. But when you come from those places, inner city, Cleanland.

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Speaker 1: and you wake up with a with a you don't

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Speaker 1: know how you're gonna get from A to B. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's no ways apt in real life. That's on your smartphone.

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Speaker 1: But most people are feeling their way through day by

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Speaker 1: day and it's a struggle. One of the main things

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Speaker 1: I struggled with throughout this pandemic is I know that

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Speaker 1: they don't get those meals. I'm sitting at my house. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm by myself. I understand, I'm in my bubble. Everyone

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Speaker 1: won't have that luxury, right, And so what's happening in

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Speaker 1: affect them going forward? That's the type of things that

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Speaker 1: I thought about that affect me. Um. And then within that,

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Speaker 1: we had all these other things going on from from

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Speaker 1: from social issues, and it was just it's a tough

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Speaker 1: time for us. But you have to you have to

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Speaker 1: believe in what you believe in and you have to

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Speaker 1: find ways to express that to how do you see fit?

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Speaker 1: And I think it's important, Um, but do it from

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Speaker 1: a place of care, not from a place of content.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Rich Paul Clutch Sports, hey man, this was

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Speaker 1: thirty five great minutes. Thank you so much. But I

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Speaker 1: love seeing you. Thank you, appreciate it just seeing you too,

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Speaker 1: and tell your family I say hello, thank you. And

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Speaker 1: with that, Rich Paul disappears into the representative ether to

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Speaker 1: make more deals. Hope you enjoyed it, have a great weekend.

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