Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo. Come that for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 2: for day Edith State?
Speaker 1: Is that? Whoa? Whoa? And Dan and Ty welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Soliburbal boys and girls. My name is Ty
Speaker 1: hilden Brand. I am joined as always by my friend
Speaker 1: and colleague and co host of many years, a fine
Speaker 1: gentleman over there in the good old NYC by the
Speaker 1: name of Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how are you?
Speaker 2: I am really good? Ty, I am. I am genuinely
Speaker 2: very good. This is as rested as I've ever been
Speaker 2: when we recorded a show. We're recording ten am Eastern Time.
Speaker 2: I had a wonderful night's sleep last night because normally
Speaker 2: we record Sunday mornings, we're up late watching games, and
Speaker 2: I was up sort of late watching Bowl games. But
Speaker 2: or you know, after a long day's work, I really
Speaker 2: relish these shows.
Speaker 1: Ty.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in the little Dan Cave and my apartments,
Speaker 2: and I'm feeling wonderful. People told us during the season
Speaker 2: it sounded like our Sunday morning shows didn't have quite
Speaker 2: the oomph of a Wednesday Show. True, you are punchy
Speaker 2: after a day's work. I will say that.
Speaker 1: I see how. I see how people would get that impression.
Speaker 1: To your point though, about getting a good night's sleep.
Speaker 1: So I got an Apple Watch. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've announced this on the show or not, but I
Speaker 1: bought an Apple Watch.
Speaker 2: Not as good as MVMT for me for my money, of.
Speaker 1: Course, guy. But I'm trying to I'm seeing what different
Speaker 1: applications are available to me, and one of the things
Speaker 1: I started trying to do was monitor my sleep. You
Speaker 1: know how I sleep, Dan, We've talked about this before
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 2: Like you've been in the hull of a ship for
Speaker 2: your entire life. I've been deeply.
Speaker 1: Alarmed at the sleep quote unquote score that I've been
Speaker 1: assigned by some of these apps. Like, oh no, if
Speaker 1: it were in terms of a test that you take
Speaker 1: in elementary school, I'd get a constant f. My sleep
Speaker 1: score is like a sixty one one percent. Okay, these
Speaker 1: apps know how poorly I sleep, but they offer no
Speaker 1: suggestions for how to actually fix it.
Speaker 2: So I guess that's the I offer you a suggestion.
Speaker 1: Well, I've tried the apps, but but they get me
Speaker 1: to sleep. They don't keep me asleep.
Speaker 2: That's a problem. Oh, I gotcha, Sere.
Speaker 1: I'm going with this. I do.
Speaker 2: I do see where you're going. How are you doing otherwise,
Speaker 2: ty how is your college football brain? My college football
Speaker 2: brain is great. I don't know if you saw, but
Speaker 2: a lot of people have tweeted us now thanking us
Speaker 2: for presenting this alternative theory for bull confidence pools how
Speaker 2: to go about it?
Speaker 1: And I actually looked this morning. The solid verbal Among
Speaker 1: the many thousands of groups in ESPN's bull Confidence Pool,
Speaker 1: the solid verbal has the second highest average score so
Speaker 1: far through like five games. Mind you, but sure, but
Speaker 1: that's something we're doing, okay.
Speaker 2: Would you say, because I don't think I've missed a
Speaker 2: game yet. I think I was five for five yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you record was yesterday.
Speaker 1: I missed one. I missed the UCF game. Oh, sorry
Speaker 1: to hear it. I tried to convince you. Would you
Speaker 1: say because of the success that both we and our
Speaker 1: listeners are having that the solid verbal universe is having
Speaker 1: a December to remember. If you look outside, Tye, there
Speaker 1: is a there's a lexus with a giant novelty bow
Speaker 1: that I left for you, because Ty.
Speaker 2: This isn't the seasons. It's not about me not sharing
Speaker 2: Ty and what you did telling people to invest big
Speaker 2: early in these ballgames. I think it really speaks to
Speaker 2: the holiday spirit that's not just within you, within all of.
Speaker 1: Us, the lexus with the bow. You are too much, man.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you came up with that, but
Speaker 1: good for you.
Speaker 2: That's the actual song I want to Yeah, I did
Speaker 2: a minimal amount of research for that, a goof and
Speaker 2: I found it.
Speaker 1: All Right, let's get to some actual news out there.
Speaker 1: We are parking.
Speaker 2: Can we start with personal news. Yes, we have a venue.
Speaker 2: We have tickets that will be telling you in a
Speaker 2: matter of seconds when you can get them for our
Speaker 2: January live season review show, And I would you like
Speaker 2: to do the honors tie?
Speaker 1: Well, you pick the venue. The venue is Hill Country Chicken.
Speaker 1: Hill Country Chicken. What do we know about Hill Country?
Speaker 2: Hill Country Chicken is a wonderful place. It is in
Speaker 2: Flat Iron District, Midtown ish of New York City. So
Speaker 2: if you're in the Greater New York City area or
Speaker 2: can be in the Greater New York City area, we'd
Speaker 2: love to have you. Tickets are pretty limited. We will
Speaker 2: be releasing them. You said Wednesday, This coming Wednesday.
Speaker 1: This coming day, December twenty first, at one pm Eastern.
Speaker 2: One pm Eastern, so ten for all the people out
Speaker 2: on the way coast who play on coming it'll be
Speaker 2: ten am year time, so one pm eastern. Hill Country
Speaker 2: Chicken I shot easy call there. They have exceptionally good
Speaker 2: fried chicken, and like mini pies and milkshakes.
Speaker 1: They do them.
Speaker 2: You know what they do tie They take their mini
Speaker 2: pies and they put them in a blender with their milkshakes.
Speaker 2: And this season has been I mean, the official confectionery
Speaker 2: treat of the twenty sixteen solid verbal college football season
Speaker 2: has to be the milkshake, right, I.
Speaker 1: Would assume so, yeah, because the Adam Amane stuff. Sure.
Speaker 2: So, they have ridiculously good milkshakes. And the cool thing
Speaker 2: about Hill Country Chicken. One, it's pretty central. It's near
Speaker 2: a bunch of trains. You can get there really easily.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 2: They have like this ridiculous basement and that's where we're
Speaker 2: doing our show. You go downstairs and it's appointed like
Speaker 2: you would like a den or a basement from like
Speaker 2: a suburban home. In nineteen ninety four, it's there's like
Speaker 2: board game. It's it's great. It's a cool venue. I
Speaker 2: shot easy Call there. I interviewed notable Oklahoma fan Nathan
Speaker 2: ali Well from the Kings of rum Ye interviewed him
Speaker 2: down there in the basement. Shot easy call a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago or last year actually at other Hill
Speaker 2: Country locations. It's a great place. They do great things.
Speaker 2: And eight pm Saturday, January fourteenth. Tickets go on sale
Speaker 2: this coming Wednesday, the twenty first, at one pm. You
Speaker 2: can find we will will tweet it out at one pm.
Speaker 2: We'll post it on Facebook at one pm. I believe
Speaker 2: if you google solid verbal and event right b our ite,
Speaker 2: you should be able to get to the page. And
Speaker 2: I would stress try to move relatively quickly because it's
Speaker 2: a it's a pretty small space and we just want
Speaker 2: to have fun with some of our pals.
Speaker 1: So the plan is going to be at that point
Speaker 1: to celebrate the national champion, because the championship game is
Speaker 1: the Monday before our live event, so we'll know who
Speaker 1: the champion is. I mean, I'll be celebrating Temple football,
Speaker 1: so we'll I'll be celebrating our own football situations. But
Speaker 1: in particular, the champion will know who it is, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna reflect on some of the central themes from
Speaker 1: the season, and we're gonna eat the chicken. And I
Speaker 1: believe there are drinks. Will there be drinks? They?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I don't know if we I don't know
Speaker 2: if we're offering a package, like if you get a ticket,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get you a chicken sandwich and a shiner. Right,
Speaker 2: But they have really good Texas beer and they have
Speaker 2: fried chicken sandwiches. They do I don't know if they
Speaker 2: still do this, so I can't promise this, but this
Speaker 2: just sort of speaks and they're they're not paying us
Speaker 2: to say any of this.
Speaker 1: There what was it? It was?
Speaker 2: They're mashed potatoes. They like these cheesy mashed potatoes. I'm
Speaker 2: generally not a big mashed potatoes guy, but they would
Speaker 2: just cut up French fries and put them in the
Speaker 2: mashed potatoes.
Speaker 1: I'm great with that. Yeah, I'm wondering. I'm fine with
Speaker 1: this idea. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is also a place that when I went there
Speaker 2: with our pal Andy Staples, he had a person on
Speaker 2: Twitter after he posted a picture of his tray of
Speaker 2: fried chicken send him call the restaurant and send him
Speaker 2: a pie, Like like he was a charming dude across
Speaker 2: the bar sending a drink to a potential lover. Tye,
Speaker 2: he got sent a pie.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's pretty cool. So that's what we're doing
Speaker 2: at January fourteenth. It'll be at eight pm. Hopefully everybody
Speaker 2: in and around New York City that is interested can
Speaker 2: can make their way to Hill Country check.
Speaker 1: In absolutely and more to come on this. We are
Speaker 1: trying to lilign some folks up to stop buy, maybe
Speaker 1: not be on stage with us, but to stop by
Speaker 1: and just because amongst the people. Yeah, Okay, what do
Speaker 1: we got in the way of actual college football news? Well,
Speaker 1: actually a fair amount, nothing to groundbreaking, but we've got
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about here. Yes, the big one is
Speaker 1: the Holiday Bowl. As it pertains to the topic at
Speaker 1: hand here, we're going to go through what the Military
Speaker 1: Bowl through the Birmingham Bowl. So we got a bunch
Speaker 1: of games to discuss. But as it relates to bulls,
Speaker 1: Minnesota was threatening a boycott. Ten teammates had been suspended
Speaker 1: as part of an ongoing investigation. The football team thought
Speaker 1: that they were not given due process and they were
Speaker 1: threatening to not play in the Holiday Bowl. So there
Speaker 1: was a lot of scuttle butt on this, as you
Speaker 1: might imagine, in the days leading up to I guess
Speaker 1: they came to a conclusion, like yesterday or Friday evening,
Speaker 1: would Northern Illinois take their place? Would it just be
Speaker 1: an outright forfeit? A lot of questions surrounding this. The
Speaker 1: boycott is now over, if you're wondering. The team met
Speaker 1: with some university officials, and I believe they're now at
Speaker 1: a point where yes, they're going to the bowl game.
Speaker 1: They're going to play against Washington State. All's well, that
Speaker 1: ends Well, I will be picking Washington State because this
Speaker 1: seems like a bit of a distraction. H But with
Speaker 1: that being said, alas it will be Minnesota against Washington
Speaker 1: State in the National Funding Holiday Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I sort of got the intentions of the players
Speaker 2: trying to look out for due process and hoping that
Speaker 2: their teammates weren't railroaded because of something that they didn't do.
Speaker 2: But then apparently they read an eighty page report that
Speaker 2: is not an insignificant number of pages about the alleged incident,
Speaker 2: and that sort of changed their minds. And the lesson
Speaker 2: here is if players plural especially are being suspended for
Speaker 2: something as heinous a sexual assault, give it a second,
Speaker 2: sort of figure out what's happening, you know, try to
Speaker 2: stay as informed as one possibly can, and the sort
Speaker 2: of rush to sort of defend your teammates needs to
Speaker 2: probably slow down until you're able to sort of gather
Speaker 2: as much information as possible. So I guess happy to
Speaker 2: see that players are seeing truths and recognizing that probably
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be associated with certain alleged truths. Also, have
Speaker 2: we discussed WAKI leaks? Oh no, we haven't. We should
Speaker 2: talk about that now, we because we recorded earlier in
Speaker 2: the week, right before it came out, maybe the day
Speaker 2: before it came out. Wake Forest Who radio broadcaster Tommy
Speaker 2: L Rod I think his name is, yes, Tommy al Rod,
Speaker 2: former assistant coach, was not retained. He was a GROB
Speaker 2: assistant and just not a good twenty sixteen for all
Speaker 2: things related to Jim Grove, former Globe assistant not retained
Speaker 2: by Dave Clauson turned radio broadcaster, and for at least
Speaker 2: two years, I mean I think two years of the allegation.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows this by now, but was giving proprietary information
Speaker 2: to demon Deacon opponents, which is one crazy. Two, he's
Speaker 2: probably not the only bitter person to do this with
Speaker 2: access to information across college football. And three we know
Speaker 2: Louisville and was a Virginia tach Junia Tech. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: both find the maximum number of dollars which was like
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars by the ACC for being involved
Speaker 2: in illegal espionage. Man, And that was two years ago.
Speaker 2: That was the way zero zero game with Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: The one where Frank Frank Beemer's holding up his arms
Speaker 1: at the end of regulation zero zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, celebrating holding Wake to zero while at the same
Speaker 2: time scoring zero points. And it is like, it's such
Speaker 2: a huge bummer, And I don't know who's exactly to
Speaker 2: feel bad for other than Wake Forest fans and players
Speaker 2: who put so much energy and enthusiasm into their team
Speaker 2: without all sorts of good results recently. But man, like,
Speaker 2: how impossible is it to be a coach at an
Speaker 2: average or below average place? You already have so much
Speaker 2: stacked against you if you're you know, the coach of
Speaker 2: Wake Forest, just because there are so many other teams
Speaker 2: in their conference with so much more in the way
Speaker 2: of resources and talent whatever, and then a story comes
Speaker 2: out with like, oh, your radio guys also sabotaging you
Speaker 2: because he's bitter. Well, what I want to know is this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's the market value for Wake Forest game plans? It
Speaker 2: wasn't exactly like uh, or play in Alabama here right,
Speaker 2: because I can't imagine they're worth a whole lot.
Speaker 1: It was Wake for.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so here's the thing. You can think about
Speaker 2: it in two ways. So you can think about it
Speaker 2: in that way that like, yes, it's Wake Forest, like
Speaker 2: how much can their game plans be worth? But ty,
Speaker 2: I would argue, how much is not losing to Wake
Speaker 2: Forest worth?
Speaker 1: It's worth all?
Speaker 2: If you are you know what Jimbo Fisher or whoever
Speaker 2: in the acc if you're Bobby Patrino, if your Dabbo.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Clemson was not implicated, but I would
Speaker 2: say not losing to Wake is pretty valuable.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I just can't imagine someone wanting to give up
Speaker 1: too much to get these. But okay, and.
Speaker 2: Now Notre Dame has their defensive coordinator one of like
Speaker 2: the big shining bright lights of twenty sixteen for Wake
Speaker 2: is now also gone.
Speaker 1: That is correct, tie, That is correct. I like the move.
Speaker 1: I've been reading about it for a while now. But
Speaker 1: Mike Elko is the new defensive coordinator for Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that is very underrated. If
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers, he has improved Wake Forest
Speaker 1: dramatically on the defensive side of the football. He has
Speaker 1: absolutely made them better at getting to the quarterback, which
Speaker 1: is something that Notre Dame really struggled to do this season.
Speaker 1: So I think to bring him in is a huge coup.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's officially official, but they are
Speaker 1: in the process of finalizing the deal now to bring
Speaker 1: him in. All signs point to it being Mike Elko
Speaker 1: and South Bend next season, and that's absolutely a great move.
Speaker 2: So he was there for three seasons, including this one,
Speaker 2: but something that stands out to me, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you right this is shocking. I did not watch
Speaker 2: a ton of Wake football, but I watched some this year.
Speaker 2: And when you look at the numbers, tie and what
Speaker 2: am I going to reference here? You're gonna reference d
Speaker 2: analytics again. I'm I'm gonna referenced analytics. This is just
Speaker 2: generally speaking, and the more standard stats reflect this as well.
Speaker 2: Wake didn't do a great job of stopping bigger plays.
Speaker 2: But the fact that Wake's offense was so terrible and
Speaker 2: they were still able, you know, and on the field
Speaker 2: so much, that defense was able to be pretty damn good.
Speaker 2: That that always impresses me, not to a defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: but a defensive coaching staff and the players themselves giving
Speaker 2: that much effort when the offense isn't helping them out
Speaker 2: a ton. So hopefully Mike Elko will have a better
Speaker 2: offense on the other side of the ball to work
Speaker 2: with and at Notre Dame and is able to show
Speaker 2: his prowess. It's a really good move for the Irish.
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good move. They needed to
Speaker 2: bring him in. I thought Brian Kelly did a good
Speaker 2: job going out and getting him. So he's the new
Speaker 2: DC at Notre Dame. Steve Sarkeshan is back in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is the new offensive coordinator for Alabama this after
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin took the job over at FAU. Sarks An
Speaker 2: interesting guy.
Speaker 1: Dan. You know, Lane Kiffin I think vowed for him
Speaker 1: and brought him over to Alabama to be part of
Speaker 1: that staff in some sort of advisory role now as
Speaker 1: Kiffen leaves Sark takes over. He's obviously qualified to be
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. Did good things, I think on that front,
Speaker 1: So I think baggage aside. This is a good chance
Speaker 1: for him to get a new start, and obviously it's
Speaker 1: a role I think he's certainly qualified to hold.
Speaker 2: He's qualified, and I just I hope for the best
Speaker 2: for him, that he is able to get healthy, stay healthy,
Speaker 2: maintain health, and other There are stories that were sort
Speaker 2: of going around the internet that suggested otherwise, but I
Speaker 2: hope they're not true, and I hope and I can't
Speaker 2: speak to this with any sort of authenticity, but we
Speaker 2: hope that a high pressure situation is something that he
Speaker 2: is able to navigate and has the supported Alabama to succeed.
Speaker 1: All right. In grad transfer and other transfer news, a
Speaker 1: new Solomon is grad transferring Dan. This is interesting to me.
Speaker 1: I like the usage of a verb thank you. I
Speaker 1: just grad transf I just made that. Yeah, a new
Speaker 1: Solomon transferring away from Arizona. I have not heard if
Speaker 1: there is a favorite to land in new Solomon services.
Speaker 1: I will say that I was underwhelmed by a new
Speaker 1: Solomon in his time at Arizona, he seemed the kind
Speaker 1: of quarterback who might be able to thrive in a
Speaker 1: rich Rod system, and between getting hurt and being inconsistent
Speaker 1: when he was healthy, I don't know if his services
Speaker 1: are going to be in that high of demand around
Speaker 1: college football.
Speaker 2: When he was healthy, I think he played pretty well.
Speaker 2: I think he has been hurt for a long time,
Speaker 2: which is also just it's just a bad break that
Speaker 2: he has just struggled with injuries. I don't know where
Speaker 2: he ends up. I think he is probably. I think
Speaker 2: you're underrating him a little bit. I think he's good.
Speaker 2: I think he can fit, especially Ty. In researching today's
Speaker 2: Bowl preview, I had to do something that I never
Speaker 2: liked to do. I had to look at big ten
Speaker 2: passings to take Oh gosh, so the fact that there
Speaker 2: is a at best pretty good quarterback out there's a
Speaker 2: pretty impressive thing. There's so many teams with bad quarterbacks
Speaker 2: and I don't know who it is. I looked at
Speaker 2: some of the seniors just across college football that might
Speaker 2: be in the market for a quarterback. I mean, Cal,
Speaker 2: you know they'll lose Davis web this year. Kansas, you
Speaker 2: know there can't listen we laugh. Kansas is in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve, which has gone through some changes, and Kansas
Speaker 2: themselves they were in a lot of small things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they absolutely were. I was looking up like short yarded situations.
Speaker 2: Kansas was very good. They were plucky, they were they
Speaker 2: were doing. They beat Texas, Tye, they beat Texas well.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Houston is Kyle Allen, So I don't
Speaker 2: think that's a landing spot. I'm looking around college football.
Speaker 2: We already know we know Max Brown's going to pit
Speaker 2: as a grad transfer. Yep, that came out this week.
Speaker 2: You know what, Tye, Baylor, I know they have Zack Smith,
Speaker 2: but that's I think, literally the only quarterback that's going
Speaker 2: to be on the roster next year. Interesting and especially
Speaker 2: as they sort of moved to it. I don't think
Speaker 2: completely different, but I would imagine a more sort of
Speaker 2: ground based attack. If we were to look at what
Speaker 2: Matt Rule did at Temple, I think that might be
Speaker 2: an interesting fit. I think there's available playing time in Waco.
Speaker 2: There is playing time, you know, uh, Texas A and
Speaker 2: m I mean, who is who is in the market
Speaker 2: for Trevor Knight.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I think you might be surprised at the
Speaker 2: type of suitors at a new Solomon may have.
Speaker 1: I would be stunned if he ended up at a contender.
Speaker 2: What about Nebraska?
Speaker 1: If he goes to Kansas, that's one thing, But I
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to.
Speaker 2: Was there anything about about about Riker Fife that that
Speaker 2: got you pumped up for twenty seven? I'm just I
Speaker 2: think it's gonna end up somewhere. What about Colorado? I mean,
Speaker 2: there are options.
Speaker 1: You can listen out o school. There are options. I
Speaker 1: get you.
Speaker 2: Colorado, Colorado has Stephen Monte.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't think he's that good.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's I mean, God, you look at
Speaker 2: the names of teams with senior quarterbacks, and there's some
Speaker 2: there's some bummers out there.
Speaker 1: All right. Jared Stidham, who's not not a bummer, not
Speaker 1: a bummer, not a grad transfer. He of course was
Speaker 1: at Baylor. He is transferring to Auburn, which I think
Speaker 1: is a fantastic move for Auburn.
Speaker 2: Fantastic move for Auburn, fantastic move for Sidham. He is
Speaker 2: sort of forgotten because of the transfer and being a
Speaker 2: non factor, but he is excellent. He's a really really
Speaker 2: good quarterback, is as true a dual threat as we've
Speaker 2: seen recently, accurate, poised. He's not huge, but he can
Speaker 2: move really really well and he should be able to
Speaker 2: step in and immediately And you know, Sean White at
Speaker 2: his best was pretty good and efficient, but Jared Stidham
Speaker 2: is He's way better, especially in a conference that moving
Speaker 2: forward they'll be improved quarterback wise, but hasn't gotten particularly
Speaker 2: good quarterback play recently. I think he has the opportunity
Speaker 2: to be pretty special at Auburn.
Speaker 1: He is bigger than Seawan White. He is better in
Speaker 1: terms of being a true passer and probably a runner
Speaker 1: as well. So you have to imagine that Gus Malshan
Speaker 1: could find a way to use that skill set pretty effectively.
Speaker 2: Who are the twenty seventeen SEC West quarterbacks right now?
Speaker 2: Jalen her Hurts, we have Jalen Hurts, Shaye Patterson, we
Speaker 2: have Shape Patterson, Ole miss very promising text A and
Speaker 2: M unclear unclear, su unclear and clear. I think Mississippi
Speaker 2: SA Nick Fitzgerald. It'll be Nick Fitzgerald, who showed a
Speaker 2: lot of promise this year on the ground and at
Speaker 2: times through the air. Arkansas Alan again, Alan, he's just
Speaker 2: one name for us.
Speaker 1: Just Alan. Yeah, like Pele.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nothing. It's nothing that Jared's Didham can't immediately
Speaker 2: overcome and be.
Speaker 1: The best of that group. I agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, And that's and that's saying a lot because Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts is very good.
Speaker 1: Anything else we got, any other news? We could talk
Speaker 1: about some of the game results. Actually, if you want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's quickly run through the first five bowl game.
Speaker 1: First five Bowl games. You had New Mexico twenty three
Speaker 1: to twenty over UTSA, a better game than I think
Speaker 1: a lot expected. Utsa scored fourteen in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: to make this one a little bit closer.
Speaker 2: But you're just gonna gloss over all the Blake Shelton
Speaker 2: commercials for Gilda. You're just gonna gloss over that. Okay.
Speaker 1: They were numerous, they were.
Speaker 2: They happened often. New Mexo actually played some really good
Speaker 2: defense too, which was kind of a shock.
Speaker 1: San Diego State wins thirty four to ten over Houston.
Speaker 1: As we predicted, Houston didn't show up for this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston, they were pretty good defensively. San Diego State
Speaker 2: didn't move the ball in any like the scoring thirty
Speaker 2: four points, you'd think San Diego State was jumping all
Speaker 2: over Houston. Greg went threw four picks. It was the
Speaker 2: type of game for Greg Ward. Where by like the
Speaker 2: middle of the third quarter, I think it was it
Speaker 2: was Jesse Palmer and Brent doing this game. They just
Speaker 2: started talking about what position he might play in the NFL,
Speaker 2: because even though he had an okay season and was
Speaker 2: just hurt throughout the all of twenty sixteen, it was
Speaker 2: San Diego State led the country in interceptions. They I
Speaker 2: think they picked him four times. Really nice way to
Speaker 2: finish the season for San Diego State. And I believe
Speaker 2: don Alle Pumphrey set the all time NCAA rushing yardage record,
Speaker 2: which is sort of having an asterisk because postseason games
Speaker 2: didn't count for Ron Dame, But still an amazing career
Speaker 2: for Donald.
Speaker 1: His ability to change direction very quickly, yes, is downright amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got moves, so good for them. That was a
Speaker 1: nice win. Twenty four pointer for San Diego State. APP
Speaker 1: State one thirty one, eleven and three San Diego State
Speaker 1: eleven and three, San Diego State ten and three APPS State.
Speaker 1: Now after a thirty one to twenty eight win over Toledo.
Speaker 1: This is a good game, back and forth game. They
Speaker 1: wanted on a late field goal, like a thirty nine
Speaker 1: yarder something like that. Had two hundred and what seventy
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up here, two hundred and ninety seven
Speaker 1: yards on the ground for app State. We knew they
Speaker 1: were going to try and rush the ball, and they
Speaker 1: held down Logan woodside as best they could. But a
Speaker 1: good game. And I believe we both had app State
Speaker 1: in this one, right.
Speaker 2: We both had app State. So they have now won
Speaker 2: twenty one games in two years and are just dying
Speaker 2: for your respect.
Speaker 1: Tie. I respect them, I don't respect them as much
Speaker 1: as you do. You haven't been like the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: But listen, what has app State done against the Big
Speaker 2: Ten these past ten years?
Speaker 1: App State would beat Rutgers, they'd give Maryland a game.
Speaker 2: They already beat Michigan at Michigan well, okay in two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven. But yes, the bottom of the Big
Speaker 2: Ten is garbage.
Speaker 1: Tie, all right? They won Southern miss wins twenty eight
Speaker 1: to twenty one over Louisiana Lafayette.
Speaker 2: Good a good career for Nick Mullins. By the way,
Speaker 2: for Southern miss a bruiser. Yeah, really nice, nice career.
Speaker 2: I think about a three and a half four year
Speaker 2: starter for the Eagles and just very he's not a
Speaker 2: big dude.
Speaker 1: Really good career there. And finally Arkansas State takes it
Speaker 1: to UCF thirty one thirteen. A success story for UCF
Speaker 1: to get to a bowl game. I thought maybe they'd
Speaker 1: look better playing a cinch a home game here, but
Speaker 1: Arkansas State jumped on him early. They were of seventeen
Speaker 1: to nothing after the first quarter and then they sort
Speaker 1: of cruised to victory.
Speaker 2: The d analytics loved Arkansas State in this game. Great defense,
Speaker 2: really nice here for Blake Anderson. It was Kendall Sanders
Speaker 2: who had a nice day through the air, caught a
Speaker 2: bunch and I looked this up.
Speaker 1: I believe UCF.
Speaker 2: First of all, the third down numbers in this game.
Speaker 2: These two teams to go six of thirty five on
Speaker 2: third down not great. And UCF rushed Forero point four
Speaker 2: yards a carry, which is what a little less than
Speaker 2: a foot and a half. I also looked this up
Speaker 2: Tie because I wanted to see like a foot and
Speaker 2: a half, so we're talking about eighteen twenty inches.
Speaker 1: It's roughly what they were rushing for.
Speaker 2: That is the size of a pretty average lake trout,
Speaker 2: So that's that's what you see f ran for They
Speaker 2: ran for the length of an average fish. So there's that.
Speaker 1: All right. We got to pay the bills here and
Speaker 1: then we're going to go through another wave of bowl games. Dan,
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Speaker 1: so far, so good, so far, so good. I mentioned
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. This is where the rubber really
Speaker 1: starts to meet the road, though, because some of those
Speaker 1: early games that we discussed are a lot of teams
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Speaker 2: Well, ty, I want to keep the December to remember,
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Speaker 1: The earlier games are are kind of the tougher ones,
Speaker 1: because truth be told, these aren't the teams that most
Speaker 1: people follow with any regularity. There's a lot less information
Speaker 1: out there on those teams. Now we start getting into
Speaker 1: teams that more people know. You know, we're going to
Speaker 1: start off here with the Military Bowl and Temple Wake Forest.
Speaker 1: You know the deal on Temple. You know a lot
Speaker 1: about Wake Forest, We've been talking about these teams all year,
Speaker 1: so I think this is going to make it a
Speaker 1: little bit tougher for us to pick the winner of
Speaker 1: some of these games, and also justifies why you try
Speaker 1: to make your hay early in the conference pool. You
Speaker 1: put your points all the way at the top. All right, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: December twenty seventh, That three, three thirty pm. Excuse me?
Speaker 1: Temple is ten and three. They are a thirteen point
Speaker 1: favorite over wake Forest. They are digging out from the
Speaker 1: Wakey League scandal. Temple ten and three, wake Forest six
Speaker 1: and six. Dan, So I'm gonna say this, according to
Speaker 1: my formula, this is a pretty big strike against taking
Speaker 1: Temple here.
Speaker 2: Wait, can I call it something please? Statistics. I'm a
Speaker 2: very bad person.
Speaker 1: TI, Temple's a thirteen point favorite. That was awful. Whatever
Speaker 1: that was. Yeah, Matt Rule left for Baylor, and you
Speaker 1: can say what you want about that being a weird
Speaker 1: fit and we have, but Temple now is without their
Speaker 1: vibrant leader, and anytime that happens, we saw it with Houston.
Speaker 1: I'm always a little a little tentative, right, a little
Speaker 1: tentative to jump in bed with that team. M hm.
Speaker 1: I am reassured a bit though, by how Temple closed
Speaker 1: out at season in just destroying Navy, That to me
Speaker 1: gives me an indication that they're still playing hard down
Speaker 1: the stretch. And given the fact that this is a
Speaker 1: senior leaden team, I find it hard to believe that
Speaker 1: they're just going to take this game off. Plus it's
Speaker 1: pretty close to home in Annapolis. Wake Forest is, you know,
Speaker 1: a defensive minded team. I would say that, provided Temple
Speaker 1: doesn't pack it in. I feel pretty good about Wake
Speaker 1: not having much success on offense.
Speaker 2: As do I I like Temple a lot here. They
Speaker 2: had a good balanced offense all year. Raikwell Armstead was
Speaker 2: a legitimately very good running back at a huge game
Speaker 2: versus USF which arguably their biggest toughest game of the season.
Speaker 2: And Temple clearly had the best defense in the American
Speaker 2: And you know, it's losing Matt Rule and some coaches
Speaker 2: to Baylor, whatever it hurts. And by the way, Matt
Speaker 2: Ruhle hired I think a significant high school coach. Yeah,
Speaker 2: two of them two in Texas a couple of them
Speaker 2: so yet and after the Texas recruiting scene in a
Speaker 2: familiar way, I would say early and Temple has Hassan.
Speaker 2: It's Hassan Reddick, and he is legitimate, legitimate, amazing defensive
Speaker 2: star and will be an NFL player and probably a
Speaker 2: significant one. So he will terrorize Wake Forest and their offense,
Speaker 2: which is awful. Wake Forest offense is particularly bad, and
Speaker 2: Wake's defense was very good, especially versus the past. And
Speaker 2: they have a star of their own in Mark hell Lee.
Speaker 2: Markwelle just a destructive force as well. So two of
Speaker 2: the best defensive players may be unhralded in the country,
Speaker 2: and Hassan Redick and Mark well Lee. I have twenty
Speaker 2: four to ten Temple as my final so I have
Speaker 2: them covering.
Speaker 1: But barely. I don't have a final score prediction. I
Speaker 1: don't even have and against the spread prediction. I do
Speaker 1: have Temple winning, though with twenty five confidence points. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think the Temple front's really good,
Speaker 1: really tough. I think they're going to bully wakes front,
Speaker 1: and I think they win this one at the point
Speaker 1: of attack. I'm not sure how Wake's moving the football here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might score ten points, but Temple's got a really
Speaker 1: good defense. They're very fundamentally sound. They're not sexy at
Speaker 1: any position, but they're always really well prepared, at least
Speaker 1: they were under Matt rule. I would expect that to
Speaker 1: continue now in just one game here against Wake, I
Speaker 1: think they can pull this one off. So I'm pretty
Speaker 1: confident in Temple. I got twenty five confidence points. All right, sure, Dan,
Speaker 1: do you have the gifts for the Military Bowl in
Speaker 1: front of you?
Speaker 2: Three hundred dollars Microsoft gift card. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: Yeah, surface pro Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Of something like that. Yeah, but yeah, three hundred dollars.
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Speaker 1: Seems like a good gift.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's a good ball.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the National Funding Holiday Bowl. Dan Yes
Speaker 1: talked about this one a little bit in our news section.
Speaker 1: This one's also on Tuesday. It's later on in the
Speaker 1: evening at seven pm. It's on ESPN and Washington State
Speaker 1: at least of time of I guess jotting these notes
Speaker 1: down was a six and a half point favorite. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's changed at all. They will be
Speaker 1: playing Minnesota, we know that now, but there are a
Speaker 1: lot of distractions here. We talked about it at the top.
Speaker 1: That's a huge strike against Minnesota here. When I took
Speaker 1: my notes, I was all in on Wazoo for eleven
Speaker 1: confidence points. I am not going to change that because,
Speaker 1: quite honestly, the ESPN system mixes it up a bit
Speaker 1: if you go in there and start changing stuff around.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to leave it as is. Typically, this
Speaker 1: is a fun game, so maybe maybe it will confute.
Speaker 1: Typically there's a fun game, so maybe the outcome will
Speaker 1: be a bit confusing. I don't know. I just feel
Speaker 1: like there's so much going against Minnesota with these added distractions.
Speaker 1: Washington State was a good team despite not closing out
Speaker 1: the season as strongly as they would have hoped. It
Speaker 1: feels to me like there'd be a ton of reasons
Speaker 1: to go Washington State here to not only win and cover.
Speaker 1: So I'll say Wazoo, I'm gonna keep it at eleven
Speaker 1: confidence points. But if I could make it more without
Speaker 1: screwing my whole thing up, I would.
Speaker 2: Just to clarify, we hope. And as it relates to
Speaker 2: distractions that nothing bad happened, like that's much more important
Speaker 2: than the prospect of.
Speaker 1: The holod well, I think that that should go without saying.
Speaker 2: It does go without saying. But yes, and god, Minnesota
Speaker 2: just completely football wise, their schedule this year was such
Speaker 2: trash ti They were I think the only team in
Speaker 2: the Big Ten lucky enough they got four of the five, Like,
Speaker 2: if you were lucky enough to get five of the five,
Speaker 2: that would have been a miracle. But they got marilynd Rutgers, Illinois,
Speaker 2: and Purdue this year. It's somehow all worked out and
Speaker 2: they missed Minnesota missed, I believe, Michigan and Ohio State,
Speaker 2: yes they did. They have Penn State they lost. That
Speaker 2: was an overtime early on in the season. Minnesota's schedule
Speaker 2: was the equivalent of being in socks on a freshly
Speaker 2: laminated and waxed wooden floor where you just sort of glide. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you just They just sort of glided through their Big
Speaker 2: Ten slate of nothing quarterbacks. So I just don't like
Speaker 2: Minnesota all that much in terms of being tested and
Speaker 2: prepared for a good Wazoo team. Wazoo's offense was efficient,
Speaker 2: They kept charging on, they marched down the field consistently.
Speaker 2: They were very good against bigger plays, which Minnesota doesn't
Speaker 2: generate anyway. Their defense is fine, and when you have
Speaker 2: an offense that prolific as Wazoo does, that's totally good enough.
Speaker 2: That is, and considering where Wazoo's defense used to be,
Speaker 2: it's a big success story what they've done defensively with
Speaker 2: Alex Grinch. Minnesota's defense was pretty good, but the competition
Speaker 2: was was pretty low. Just it's hard toge. I have
Speaker 2: thirty to seventeen Wazoo.
Speaker 1: I think Wazoo is good enough on defense to keep
Speaker 1: Minnesota pretty one dimensional here. Yes, and I'm assuming that
Speaker 1: Minnesota wants to play in this game, they come out
Speaker 1: fired up. I think the way to beat Wazoo would
Speaker 1: be through the air, and Mitch Leidner hasn't done that
Speaker 1: all year. It's just not what he's good at. So
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge matchup disadvantage that goes against
Speaker 1: the Golden Gophers here. I will go Washington State to
Speaker 1: win and cover and again I feel way more confident
Speaker 1: about it than I originally did when I jotted this down.
Speaker 1: So give me Wazoo to win and cover.
Speaker 2: Mike Leach and those Cougar teams though have always they've
Speaker 2: never been able to pull away from teams, perhaps lesser
Speaker 2: teams in Bowl games. And last year obviously the weather
Speaker 2: was crazy in the Sun Bowl. But I'm gonna keep
Speaker 2: a track of I guess, but I like Wazoo.
Speaker 1: Do you remember ten years ago in the Insight Bowl
Speaker 1: when Mike Leach played Minnesota.
Speaker 2: You might have to refresh my memory.
Speaker 1: They were trailing thirty five to seven at half and
Speaker 1: they came back in one.
Speaker 2: Players in this game will be receiving a trip to
Speaker 2: a gift suite, a fossil watch and a new Era cap.
Speaker 2: And we've had a couple of people email us asking
Speaker 2: what a gift suite is, and I was pretty sure
Speaker 2: I knew what it was, but I verified. So if
Speaker 2: you're wondering when we say gift suite, with these bold
Speaker 2: gift packages whatever, there is a room set up somewhere,
Speaker 2: you know what a media hotel wherever it is in
Speaker 2: which players can come and there are products everywhere, and
Speaker 2: you are allotted a certain number of points. So let's
Speaker 2: say you're given ten points. I think different products are
Speaker 2: given a different value points wise, So like if you're
Speaker 2: given ten points, you can get a bike for eight
Speaker 2: points and headphones for two points. You can just sort
Speaker 2: of figure out what you want to get from an
Speaker 2: array of products, which is pretty cool in.
Speaker 1: The new age of d analytics. Yes, and certainly with
Speaker 1: the degree of nerdiness that I bring to the show,
Speaker 1: you and I would totally overthink that points process.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely we would.
Speaker 1: We'd be going for efficiency. What can we get the
Speaker 1: most bang for our points from in neither one?
Speaker 2: Where is their value? How much will you use at
Speaker 2: We would overthink that and screw it up.
Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely. The Motel six Cactus Bowl get hyped. You
Speaker 1: have stayed a Motel six, Of course I have. There's
Speaker 1: a Motel six in State College, PA that I'm not
Speaker 1: kidding has a toilet that runs like a jet engine.
Speaker 2: One specific toilet or all of their toilets.
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's all of them, unless it was
Speaker 1: one specific room. But I stayed in one. It was
Speaker 1: the loudest and most intense toilet I've ever witnessed.
Speaker 2: One of the great things about traveling for college football
Speaker 2: is you develop an ability to make peace and or
Speaker 2: defend a decision to stay in a particularly bad motel
Speaker 2: or hotel and it's like thirty miles away from town.
Speaker 2: And not to say Motel sixes are bad, they're totally fine.
Speaker 2: I ride with Best Western if I'm going to stay
Speaker 2: in a motel if, well, but that's that's just made.
Speaker 2: But like you see the advertising, like, hey they have showtime. Everybody,
Speaker 2: it's pretty good they have showtime. So yeah, Motel six
Speaker 2: is sponsoring the Cactus Ball.
Speaker 1: This one's also on Tuesday evening ten fifteen on ESPN
Speaker 1: between Boise State. Boise went ten and two this season,
Speaker 1: and they are like a seven, seven and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite over the Baylor Bears. Baylor started out six
Speaker 1: and oh, ended up oh and six. They finished the
Speaker 1: year six and six. So this I think is another
Speaker 1: test of my theory. The theory is that motivation, you know,
Speaker 1: means something during bowl season. This is a pretty good
Speaker 1: test case. Baylor, as I just mentioned, started hot, finished cold.
Speaker 1: Every Baylor reporter, every fan that I've talked to, they've
Speaker 1: all told me the same story. The team pretty much
Speaker 1: mailed it in mm hmm. On top of that, you've
Speaker 1: got a current coach whose term is set to expire.
Speaker 1: All the wheels are in motion for them to move
Speaker 1: on to the Matt Rule era. The only thing standing
Speaker 1: in their way is this game, and the game itself
Speaker 1: is completely meaningless, doesn't mean anything. It's a Cactus Bowl,
Speaker 1: it's in Tempe, it's a Chase Field, it's a nice
Speaker 1: place to go. Otherwise, there's really no reason for Baylor
Speaker 1: to care about this football game. They're moving on one
Speaker 1: way or the other. So with that in mind, I
Speaker 1: feel very confident in Boise State here and like thirty
Speaker 1: confidence points.
Speaker 2: I think that's why it's never a great sign when
Speaker 2: a team or group of players are a coach needs
Speaker 2: to clarify, oh, yes, we.
Speaker 1: Would like to go to a bowl, thank you.
Speaker 2: That's my point. It's it's never a good sign.
Speaker 1: And Boise, you know, for their part, they sort of
Speaker 1: limped a bit to the finish, true, but across the
Speaker 1: board there's still pretty rock solid. The efficiency metrics love
Speaker 1: Boise and you've got a strong contingent of seniors on
Speaker 1: their team too. I got to believe they want to
Speaker 1: go out in style. So gimme, gimme Boyse here to
Speaker 1: win cover and for like thirty confidence points.
Speaker 2: Boise, You're right. They were efficient scoring the ball. They
Speaker 2: struggled a little bit on the ground with consistency, but
Speaker 2: jere Jeremy McNichols was a terrific all purpose weapon. Two
Speaker 2: really good wide receivers, and Thomas Spurwack and Sie Druk Wilson.
Speaker 2: I know it's probably Cedric, but I like sing Zu Druck.
Speaker 2: When they were bad on third down, that's when they
Speaker 2: got into trouble. When they were unable to keep drives going,
Speaker 2: that's when they lost or almost lost. I don't think
Speaker 2: Baylor's defense is good enough to force trouble for Boise
Speaker 2: States offense. Boise's defense, although took a step back against
Speaker 2: the run, very good against the past. Two really good
Speaker 2: defensive linemen and Sam mc kiskell, Sam mc caskell and
Speaker 2: David Moa. As we've seen, Poise just developed really good
Speaker 2: defensive players year in and year out, and Baylor was pretty
Speaker 2: much average in everything that they did. Zack Smith, freshman quarterback,
Speaker 2: taking the place of Seth Russell when he got hurt.
Speaker 2: He had his moments, but was a freshman Baylor's defense.
Speaker 2: They stop some bigger plays, but they gave up a
Speaker 2: lot of points. I like boys here thirty four to twenty.
Speaker 1: What's the gift situation? Here?
Speaker 2: The gift situation? Excuse me? At the Cactus Bowl is
Speaker 2: a gift? Sweet visit and oh Gio Baha seventy backpack.
Speaker 2: I've heard wonderful things about the Baja seventy. A fossil watch,
Speaker 2: and a mixer bottle. I don't know exactly what that is.
Speaker 1: Mixer bottle?
Speaker 2: What is a mixer? There's no brand here, so it's
Speaker 2: hard to look up. So when we google mixer bottle
Speaker 2: for like a protein shake or something, I would assume. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: like it's something that you can. Yeah, it looks like
Speaker 2: it's a body building thing, which if you've seen a
Speaker 2: picture of tie in me. Yeah, that's why we're unfamiliar
Speaker 2: with mixer bottles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess.
Speaker 2: It's you can you can put a bunch of stuff
Speaker 2: into a bottle and shake it up.
Speaker 1: All right, Where are we going next here?
Speaker 2: New Era pin Strike Bowl? No, not this bowl? Yeah, baby,
Speaker 2: I hate this bowl. There's actually gonna be good weather
Speaker 2: in New York Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I have a New Era pinch Stripe Bowl hat. Thanks
Speaker 1: to you, Pinstripe Bowl Champions.
Speaker 2: Hat Pinstripe Bowl Champions.
Speaker 1: Wednesday, December twenty eighth, two pm on ESPN. They play
Speaker 1: it in Yankee Stadium, which is a cool venue. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, I've seen a football game in Yankee Stadium's
Speaker 1: cool venue. It's between Pitt and Northwestern Pit eight and four,
Speaker 1: Northwestern six and six. Pits about a five and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite. So look, I was looking at this
Speaker 1: one when it did my studying earlier in the week.
Speaker 1: I could see this game going one hundred different directions.
Speaker 1: But if you look at both teams, talk about a
Speaker 1: contrast in resumes here. Yes, Pit beat Penn State and
Speaker 1: Clemson this season. Clearly they already have more quality wins,
Speaker 1: but they played some tough competition. Northwestern, Dan, what's the
Speaker 1: best he can say about Northwestern?
Speaker 2: They've got a really good, unpronounceable pass rusher in a
Speaker 2: f Eddio Dinegbo'. That's the thing. No, Austin Carr was
Speaker 2: Austin Carr is going to be like a fourth round
Speaker 2: draft pick and we'll catch like twelve hundred yards worth
Speaker 2: every year.
Speaker 1: But in terms of their resume, Dan, right, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking players in terms of resume. They lost by one
Speaker 1: to Western Michigan and buy three to Ohio State. That's
Speaker 1: the best I can do. Want to beat Michigan State,
Speaker 1: who was a bad team. They beat Duke, who beat
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They beat Iowa, who beat Michigan. A lot
Speaker 1: of transitive property going on here, but I'll big listen.
Speaker 1: Northwestern Math school transitive wins. Okay, we can count it.
Speaker 1: And Northwestern held pretty tough with Illinois State, but we
Speaker 1: lost by two. So look, here is where we differentiate
Speaker 1: between a confidence pool where we're picking straight up winners
Speaker 1: and normally during the season, like we go against the spread.
Speaker 1: I think I put thirty five points on Northwestern plus
Speaker 1: five and a half here, Okay, because the thing that
Speaker 1: I think I'm most confident in, I'm with you there
Speaker 1: by the way is right, is that this is going
Speaker 1: to be a three point game one way or the other.
Speaker 1: Is a tight game. So if I could do something
Speaker 1: like that, I would put a thousand points on just
Speaker 1: being a three point win one way or the other.
Speaker 1: But if I have to pick a straight up winner,
Speaker 1: I think it's pit. I think it's pit. I'm not
Speaker 1: super confident, thirteen points confident, But I think they close
Speaker 1: out their season pretty well, three straight wins over Clemson, Duke,
Speaker 1: and Syracuse. On offense, they look good in all three
Speaker 1: of those games. The Syracuse game got a little loose
Speaker 1: loose defensively, but they've got momentum, and it's James Conner's
Speaker 1: final game before he goes the NFL, so I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is a pretty nice spot for Pitt
Speaker 1: here to continue the trend, continue building and pushing forward.
Speaker 1: I'm not super excited about that selection, but I am
Speaker 1: forced to pick one, so I'm gonna say Pit like
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty one.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Ty, if you like open receivers,
Speaker 2: the Pinstripe Bowl is for you because these two pass
Speaker 2: defenses are trash. So Pit's gonna be without Matt Canada,
Speaker 2: who is the new LSU offensive coordinator. We didn't mention
Speaker 2: that at the top, but I think a really nice
Speaker 2: higher although I would argue also the stars sort of
Speaker 2: aligned for Pitt this year in terms of experience and
Speaker 2: talent and depth everywhere on offense, but Pitt had I
Speaker 2: would argue, the clear best passing offense in the acc
Speaker 2: they were more efficient than everybody, and they played good teams.
Speaker 2: So I'm very high on the job that Matt Canada
Speaker 2: and Nate Peterman did all season long, especially against the
Speaker 2: better teams on their schedule. They're excellent in the red zone.
Speaker 2: The defense is pretty good against the run and just
Speaker 2: atrocious versus the pass. It's slightly improved at the end
Speaker 2: of the year. But yeah, that Syracuse game wasn't pretty
Speaker 2: and Northwestern is just the consummate okay team, And I
Speaker 2: like Pitt here twenty seven to twenty three, but you
Speaker 2: seem to like this game. Seems to feel like in
Speaker 2: your zone of everything to you is pointing to pit
Speaker 2: winning straight up and you're not going against that instincts
Speaker 2: as what brought you so much success this year. Well,
Speaker 2: so far, I'm eighty percent Bowl season, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: yeah December to remember. It's different when you talk about
Speaker 2: point spread versus straight up winner point spread. I struggled
Speaker 2: mightily this season straight up winner. I think I would
Speaker 2: have fared a little better. Should also add the worst
Speaker 2: possible gifting to me description anyway, Okay.
Speaker 1: Is it worse than the Lockheed Martin Bowl that we
Speaker 1: talked about on the last show.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Lockheed Martin Bowl, you get a holiday sweater,
Speaker 2: a football, and a bad and a gift suite appearance,
Speaker 2: which is not great, right, the.
Speaker 1: Worst singular entity there is a sweater.
Speaker 2: Officially, the official party line for the new Arapin Straight
Speaker 2: Bowl is a variety of New Era products the end.
Speaker 1: What else do they make beside the hat.
Speaker 2: Beanies? I have no idea, but hopefully New Era also
Speaker 2: makes iPads?
Speaker 1: All right? So compare right, thank you? Compare Compare the
Speaker 1: gift suites again between Lockheed Martin a new era.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Lockheed Martin once again is giving people a
Speaker 2: gift sweet appearance, which we don't know. At least there's
Speaker 2: some mystery of the unknown. Finnrods festive were holiday sweater,
Speaker 2: a football and a beanie?
Speaker 1: What are they giving away at the pinch Stripe Bowl?
Speaker 2: A variety of New era products? Huh, I'm almost inclined.
Speaker 2: There's no gift suite, noted.
Speaker 1: I'm going New era. Oh dumb. Look, you're a football player.
Speaker 1: You don't need a football. What you need a football
Speaker 1: for you get any time? You wont it a beanie?
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, just the presence of a gift suite
Speaker 2: trumps that a beanie and a sweater.
Speaker 1: I'd take my luck. I'd press my luck with the
Speaker 1: hats man. At least you know you can wear a
Speaker 1: hat if you get.
Speaker 2: The gift suite, might have awesome things in it.
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, December twenty eighth at five thirty pm Eastern
Speaker 1: on ESPN. And it's a pretty interesting matchup. I gotta
Speaker 1: say between the Miami Hurricanes at eight and four, they're
Speaker 1: about a field goal favorite over West Virginia, who went
Speaker 1: ten and two this season. Dan, who you.
Speaker 2: Got, Well, I'm I got the hope that Blake Shelton
Speaker 2: will be doing Russell Athletic. Let me tell you about
Speaker 2: Russell Athletic. So, West Virginia had a really good offensive year,
Speaker 2: a good defensive year. They were a pretty complete team.
Speaker 2: They finished the season ten and two, probably not the
Speaker 2: end of the season that they would have liked, but
Speaker 2: all things considered, a huge success. For Daniel Holgerson in
Speaker 2: the Mountaineers Miami and Mark ricks first year. Not great
Speaker 2: on the ground, They were fine passing the ball. The
Speaker 2: defense was really good in terms of limiting point limiting points.
Speaker 2: They were great in the red zone in West Virginia
Speaker 2: is sort of average in the red zone. I actually
Speaker 2: think and I know Miami is slightly favored here. I
Speaker 2: think Miami covers and I think they win. I think
Speaker 2: defensively they'll be able to keep West Virginia in check.
Speaker 2: I think maybe force a couple turnovers. I like Miami here.
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that West Virginia was pretty good on offense
Speaker 1: this year. Yes, you were complete a very good running team. Okay,
Speaker 1: I would argue that they did not have a truly
Speaker 1: great efficient game again against any team on their schedule
Speaker 1: with a decent defense.
Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable to say they ran for a
Speaker 2: ton against Oklahoma in a loss.
Speaker 1: They ran for a ton, and I guess you could
Speaker 1: count byu earlier in the year. That was pretty efficient,
Speaker 1: but otherwise just a lot to be desired. Miami, on
Speaker 1: the other hand, I thought they looked really, really good
Speaker 1: after losing the game to Notre Dame. After they lost
Speaker 1: that game, they went through a rough stretch, but they
Speaker 1: hammered Pitt. They beat NSTI State on the road. I
Speaker 1: still think this is a pretty good team, and I
Speaker 1: feel like they're trending in the right direction. There's sort
Speaker 1: of been this aura this year around Miami being a
Speaker 1: program that's building something under Mark Rick that he knows
Speaker 1: what he's doing. I hope brad Kaya six around another year.
Speaker 1: I would imagine he could go pro if he wanted,
Speaker 1: but there's definitely a chance that he can be much
Speaker 1: improved if he comes back for another year of ripening
Speaker 1: under Mark rickt I just I like their momentum. I
Speaker 1: think they win, I think they cover. I'm confident I'm
Speaker 1: going to Miami in twenty six points.
Speaker 2: I think that that's right.
Speaker 1: I think I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's an unfair way to view this game.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see anything on brad Kaya's I see leaning
Speaker 2: towards the NFL of two days.
Speaker 1: He should he should come back. I think he should.
Speaker 1: I think his stock is not super high right now
Speaker 1: because who's coming out next year. Originally it looked like
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen was going to be the bell of the ball.
Speaker 1: But after this season, after this season, it was a
Speaker 1: rough year, a huge sophomore slump, and he was beat up.
Speaker 1: So what happens next year means to be seeing Brad kaya.
Speaker 1: Brad Kaye has got potential. I'm looking here, So next
Speaker 1: year we'll be a Lamar Jackson. Here'll be Brett Ripping
Speaker 1: at Poise State. I'm looking at the notable sophomores. Trace
Speaker 1: McSorley if he has another big year. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I looked at that Big Ten quarterbacks list and it
Speaker 1: is Trace mcsorly and Disappointment. If he had a band,
Speaker 1: it would be called trace McSorley in the Disappointment. Okay,
Speaker 1: with other Big Ten quarterbacks. Yeah, it's not a particular
Speaker 1: I mean, Jake Browning's a sophomore this year and certainly
Speaker 1: against maybe not the best teams on Washington schedule, was incredible.
Speaker 1: There's there's just.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the juniors other than Brad Kaya. I
Speaker 2: mean Luke Fowk I think is going pro. Mason Rudolph
Speaker 2: is a junior. Baker Mayfield said he was coming back,
Speaker 2: but who knows about his NFL prospects. Yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 2: that really indicates all sorts of crazy depth of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Good year. If he has a really good year next year,
Speaker 1: there's a case to be made for him to be
Speaker 1: first quarterback off the board.
Speaker 2: I'm looking here, nobody, I mean no, next year it'll
Speaker 2: be Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: You know that no one's higher on Josh Rosen than
Speaker 1: I am. But I'm skept. Danny Etling, Yeah, Danny e Ling,
Speaker 1: moving on. Okay, all right, what's the gift situation here?
Speaker 2: Rust Athletic bull very solid as our friendly ellis would say,
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars best by shopping trip. You could cut
Speaker 2: it there, and that's already a big win.
Speaker 1: That's ready better than Lockheed Martin, already better than a
Speaker 1: new era.
Speaker 2: Yes, you've got a timely watch company. Watch I slide sandals.
Speaker 1: Slide sandals sounds try slide which, by the way, don't
Speaker 1: name your sandal company and have it sound like a lubrication.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just die. Just don't just do not. We
Speaker 2: have a beach towel and we have an athletic performance pullover. Fine,
Speaker 2: that's a big win.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: If you're a Miami or West Virginia player, you should
Speaker 2: be very happy.
Speaker 1: All right. The Foster Farms Bowl in Santa Clara.
Speaker 2: Chicken is what it's listed on the Bowl suite.
Speaker 1: Chicken Levi's Stadium. Also on Wednesday, eight point thirty in
Speaker 1: the evening on Fox Utah at eight and four about
Speaker 1: an eight point favorite over Indiana. Indiana finished six and six. Dan,
Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about motivations, been talking a
Speaker 1: lot about coaches leaving. How about coaches being outright fired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that factors in two. I don't like this situation at
Speaker 1: all for Indiana. Why the coach being fired for all
Speaker 1: field reasons. That's not a distraction.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's somewhat of a distraction. But there's
Speaker 2: continuity with Tom Allen being there's continuity.
Speaker 1: But here here's the larger point. Utah is the kind
Speaker 1: of team that if you do not play them with
Speaker 1: one hundred percent focus, they will beat you. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: the kind of team that Utah is. They're very fundamentally sound.
Speaker 1: They're going to come into this game ready. They're going
Speaker 1: to come into this game, I think, ready to run
Speaker 1: the football right down Indiana's throat. I am very confident
Speaker 1: and then winning. I don't know about covering, but I
Speaker 1: do like Utah here to win the game outright to
Speaker 1: the tune of like twenty nine confidence points.
Speaker 2: Okay, it should be noted this is, as far as
Speaker 2: I can tell, the one Bowl game not broadcast by ESPN,
Speaker 2: or at least the one Bowl game that Fox has.
Speaker 2: Does the Sunball still go to CBS. Let's say there.
Speaker 1: Is a game that is being broadcast on a network
Speaker 1: I've never heard of before, and it might be the
Speaker 1: Sun Bowl.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the American Sports Network is doing the Home
Speaker 2: Loans Arizona Bowl between Airports or South Alabama.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the American Sports Network is, but
Speaker 2: CBS has the Sun Bowl. The only ball Fox has
Speaker 2: is this game. And I would love it if like
Speaker 2: Fox went above and beyond, like they had the desk
Speaker 2: on the field for the Foster Farms Bowl. They had
Speaker 2: like a crew of like eight people weighing in on
Speaker 2: this game, and like Bruce and Stu.
Speaker 1: Let's go down to the field with Rob Stone, Matt Lionert,
Speaker 1: and Bredy Quinn. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do some version of game day that morning
Speaker 2: for the Foster Farms Bowl. So it's hard to sort
Speaker 2: of fully understand Indiana with having interim made full time
Speaker 2: coach Tom Allen. Their defense is widely improved. Again heart
Speaker 2: to gauge against Big Ten offenses. Something that you pointed
Speaker 2: out about Indiana's scoring points. Indiana threw the second most
Speaker 2: interceptions in the Big Ten, and their their pass efficiency
Speaker 2: numbers are still like fourth. Yeah, exactly, That's how bad
Speaker 2: the Big Ten game is.
Speaker 1: In general.
Speaker 2: Utah's offense is okay. Joe Williams is very good. Their
Speaker 2: defense is okay against the run, and somehow attroches against
Speaker 2: the past even having Hunter Dimmick, you know, maybe the
Speaker 2: most underrated and dominant defensive lineman in college football.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: I think Utah takes advantage of teams that are sort
Speaker 2: of everywhere in their focus. So I'm going to say
Speaker 2: Utah twenty three to seventeen.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Do we have a Bowl
Speaker 1: gift situation here.
Speaker 2: Chick in in this game the Foster Farms, we have
Speaker 2: a gift suite of Fossil Watch and a tim Buck
Speaker 2: to backpack. Now give him Bobby pretty decent. I I
Speaker 2: tie in my daily life in real life. My messenger
Speaker 2: bag that I wear to and from work is tim
Speaker 2: Buck two. Really, it's been very solid for me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm more of a targets guy myself. I don't know
Speaker 2: what that is.
Speaker 1: Different kind of backpack. Pa. I'm reading here that Foster Farms,
Speaker 1: United States West Coast Poultry Company. It's been privately owned
Speaker 1: and operated by the Foster family since nineteen thirty nine.
Speaker 2: It's Deshaun Foster's family company.
Speaker 1: That can't be true. That can't be true.
Speaker 2: That is not true at all.
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of chicken representation here in the bowls
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good. I mean, if it's in this is
Speaker 2: what San Francisco, it is in Santa Clara, y Santa Clara,
Speaker 2: excuse me. I would assume that a gift suite in
Speaker 2: the Greater Silicon Valley area is probably be pretty good.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to assume that.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say that this is probably upper
Speaker 2: fifteen percent of gift suites.
Speaker 1: That seems reasonable to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really like my Tim Buck Tubec.
Speaker 1: The Advocare V one hundred Texas Bowl Dan m hm.
Speaker 1: After many years of not knowing a thing about Advocare
Speaker 1: V one hundred, I now know it's a vitamin company, Tye.
Speaker 2: And I can't stress this enough Advocare is definitely not
Speaker 2: a pyramid scheme scam. It is definitely not Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 1: They play this one at the nerg Energy Stadium in Houston.
Speaker 1: Texas Bowl is a clash between one team in Texas, Texas.
Speaker 1: A and M. At eight and four, they're a two
Speaker 1: point favorite over K State also at eight and four.
Speaker 1: They do play this one on Wednesday night, nine thirty
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on esp and Dan Okay, I am super
Speaker 1: tempted to go ky State here, Yeah, really truly tempted.
Speaker 1: A and M struggled down the stretch against the run,
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much all K State does. The X
Speaker 1: factor here though, And why I'm not gonna do it
Speaker 1: is because I think A and M's going to be
Speaker 1: back and healthy again along their line. Miles Garrett will
Speaker 1: be back if he is back. And considering what A
Speaker 1: and M has on offense just out wide, I feel
Speaker 1: they are too athletic for K State. K State doesn't.
Speaker 1: They don't do that athletic thing very well. You can
Speaker 1: out athletic then that's not really a thing, but I'm
Speaker 1: making it up. You can be more athletic than K State,
Speaker 1: and that stands for something K State also didn't beat
Speaker 1: a single winning team all year. They beat two teams
Speaker 1: that were six and six. It was a typical Bill
Speaker 1: Snyder kind of season where he just finds a way
Speaker 1: to cobble it all together, runs the crap out of
Speaker 1: the ballplays defense. I think A and M wins here.
Speaker 1: I'm not overly confident. I think they win and cover
Speaker 1: to the tune of twelve confidence points here?
Speaker 2: Am I right? Did K State exclusively lose to the
Speaker 2: rank teams on their schedule?
Speaker 1: I believe so that's correct.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it depends on who you're talking about,
Speaker 2: but that's still pretty good. They didn't lose to a
Speaker 2: team that they shouldn't have lost to. They lost to
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma schools, and they lost to Stanford in West Virginia,
Speaker 2: which they probably should have lost those games, but they
Speaker 2: didn't lose anything stupid. Whereas text A and M is
Speaker 2: in a place, they're like the complete opposite type programs
Speaker 2: and Texts A and M to me feels like a
Speaker 2: car that the owner is bragging about buying. It's so
Speaker 2: expensive and flashy and beautiful and fast, but you have
Speaker 2: to like replace the transmission every three months.
Speaker 1: And then you see the car facts on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's just so much, like you have to
Speaker 2: put in gas that's not available at every gas station.
Speaker 2: Like there's just so much that actually under the hood
Speaker 2: is not particularly good. I like KSE State in this game.
Speaker 2: Actually they've they won five of their last six, including
Speaker 2: teams that were against teams that were definitely more athletic
Speaker 2: than KSE State. K State runs the ball pretty well.
Speaker 2: They're dreadful passing the ball, but that's not terribly new.
Speaker 2: They have the best rush defense in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: which isn't to say a ton, but they're so so
Speaker 2: against the past. Jordan Willis had a huge year for
Speaker 2: them on defense and text A and m. It just
Speaker 2: seemed like they would either have a very long touchdown
Speaker 2: or the offense would struggle, and their defense was average
Speaker 2: versus the run and bad all things, especially bad against
Speaker 2: the past considering what they should have been doing against
Speaker 2: quarterbacks playing and play out. So I am just going
Speaker 2: to roll with the team that I can count on
Speaker 2: a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 2: I have Kansas State twenty seven to twenty three.
Speaker 1: I just can't get past the fact that am should
Speaker 1: be healthy along their d line for this game. All right,
Speaker 1: I think I think that spells trouble for k State.
Speaker 1: But you're not wrong in saying that K State is
Speaker 1: a more reliable team.
Speaker 2: Who has the better quarterback in this game. Trevor Knight,
Speaker 2: how confident are you in that?
Speaker 1: I'm fairly confident. At least I know he can throw.
Speaker 2: Well, he's beat up. I mean he's playing. I believe so.
Speaker 2: Trevor Knight, in the SEC Conference without particularly good quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: finished ninth in in pass efficiency through for six point
Speaker 2: three yards per attempt. He is approaching kyleer Shermer levels
Speaker 2: of productivity. He is approaching Kyle Shermer. A and M
Speaker 2: got to the red zone. We can cale Schumer as often,
Speaker 2: exactly as often as as Vanderbilt did in SEC play. Granted,
Speaker 2: Vanderbilts in the East. Text A and M is a
Speaker 2: February team.
Speaker 1: All right, what's the gift situation here?
Speaker 2: Sorry, text A and M. I still like you. Texas
Speaker 2: A and M and Kansas State players will be receiving
Speaker 2: a trip to a gift suite. A belt buckle, okay,
Speaker 2: in Texas thing Brian Kelly would love that. He would
Speaker 2: that an Adidas backpack and our favorite lubricating sandals, the
Speaker 2: eye slides.
Speaker 1: Eye slides.
Speaker 2: Can we look up here, let's look at ice slides.
Speaker 1: Ice slide sandals. Mm hmm. Just doesn't sound safe.
Speaker 2: It looks like they're a shark tank company.
Speaker 1: I like that they have the little nubs for you.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 2: They are like shower sandal esque. They have licensing from
Speaker 2: major sports teams. It looks like but.
Speaker 1: Why are they called I slide? I don't know, and
Speaker 1: slide around in them? See, I'd be worried that I'd
Speaker 1: slip and fall. I think it's to prevent sliding, which
Speaker 1: makes the title very It's like calling someone little John. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right? And then finally the Birmingham Bowl. You know
Speaker 1: where they play this game, Dan, Toledo. They played this
Speaker 1: game in Birmingham, Alabama at Legion Field. This is a
Speaker 1: Thursday game at two pm Eastern on ESPN. USF ten
Speaker 1: and two on the year. They're a ten and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite against the South Carolina game Cocks. South
Speaker 1: Carolina and Will Muschamp went six and six. USF is
Speaker 1: a pretty healthy favorite here, Dan, Is there a reason
Speaker 1: I shouldn't blindly side with USF and the Bulls?
Speaker 2: Oh? They lost their head coach.
Speaker 1: H So there's that.
Speaker 2: So us F is in. I mean, Charlie Strong won't
Speaker 2: be coaching this game. But USF is in a pretty
Speaker 2: good position. South Carolina and I did get better over
Speaker 2: the second half of the season, highlighted by the Tennessee win.
Speaker 2: USF scores quickly and efficiently. Quinn Flowers is the clear
Speaker 2: number two dual threat quarterback in terms of how good
Speaker 2: he is on the ground behind Lamar Jackson. He had
Speaker 2: an incredible year for the Bulls. South Carolina is pretty
Speaker 2: good at preventing longer plays, but South Carolina's offense is
Speaker 2: worse than USF's defense, which was pretty bad without Tom
Speaker 2: Allen this year. So I'm gonna roll with USF ripping
Speaker 2: off some big plays. I think Marlon Mack is one
Speaker 2: of the really underrated running backs in college football. So
Speaker 2: I have the Bulls here thirty to seventeen. I've got
Speaker 2: the Bulls around the same. Le't say, like thirty four
Speaker 2: seventeen somewhere in there, and I'm pretty confident, pretty confident
Speaker 2: of a winning cover USF twenty four confidence points.
Speaker 1: Gift situation in the was Birmingham Bull Yes, Okay, the
Speaker 1: gift situation in Birmingham. We have a gift suite, okay,
Speaker 1: good start, an ESPN beanie Okay, it might get cold.
Speaker 1: I don't know, a power charger and USB adapter. I
Speaker 1: think that's thoughtful, Tie, I think that's definitely thoughtful. We've
Speaker 1: talked about the USB charger before.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think it's one of the greatest gifts you
Speaker 2: can give somebody a portable USB charger for their phone
Speaker 2: and a souvenir football. So middle of the pack.
Speaker 1: Hopefully the gift sweet is loaded. It's better than Rockheed Martin. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that does it, Dan. We've got two
Speaker 1: more Bowl preview shows to do, m hm. So our
Speaker 1: next one will be on Wednesday. We will record and
Speaker 1: push that guy out and then do stay tuned to
Speaker 1: the Twitter and the Facebook because we'll let you know
Speaker 1: what our schedule will be over the holiday season. We
Speaker 1: will be previewing all these Bowl games, yep, but we
Speaker 1: might have a little bit of an a regular schedule
Speaker 1: here as we approach the holidays. Also, don't forget about
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Speaker 2: How much we charge on turning like ten bucks?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and also we will be using the profits
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Speaker 1: of your weekend. Hey, enjoy your week I will talk
Speaker 1: to you on I believe Wednesday we're scheduled again and
Speaker 1: we'll talk to more ball games, all right. I think
Speaker 1: that's a plan. Tie for that guy over there, my
Speaker 1: good friend Dan Rubenstein. For myself, Tie Hilton Brand. Thanks
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid, Peace,