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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo. Come that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: for day Edith State?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoa? Whoa? And Dan and Ty welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Soliburbal boys and girls. My name is Ty

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Speaker 1: hilden Brand. I am joined as always by my friend

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Speaker 1: and colleague and co host of many years, a fine

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Speaker 1: gentleman over there in the good old NYC by the

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Speaker 1: name of Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I am really good? Ty, I am. I am genuinely

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Speaker 2: very good. This is as rested as I've ever been

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Speaker 2: when we recorded a show. We're recording ten am Eastern Time.

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Speaker 2: I had a wonderful night's sleep last night because normally

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Speaker 2: we record Sunday mornings, we're up late watching games, and

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Speaker 2: I was up sort of late watching Bowl games. But

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Speaker 2: or you know, after a long day's work, I really

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Speaker 2: relish these shows.

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Speaker 1: Ty.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm in the little Dan Cave and my apartments,

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Speaker 2: and I'm feeling wonderful. People told us during the season

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Speaker 2: it sounded like our Sunday morning shows didn't have quite

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Speaker 2: the oomph of a Wednesday Show. True, you are punchy

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Speaker 2: after a day's work. I will say that.

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Speaker 1: I see how. I see how people would get that impression.

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Speaker 1: To your point though, about getting a good night's sleep.

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Speaker 1: So I got an Apple Watch. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Not as good as MVMT for me for my money, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, guy. But I'm trying to I'm seeing what different

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Speaker 1: applications are available to me, and one of the things

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Speaker 1: I started trying to do was monitor my sleep. You

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Speaker 1: know how I sleep, Dan, We've talked about this before

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Speaker 2: Like you've been in the hull of a ship for

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Speaker 2: your entire life. I've been deeply.

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Speaker 1: Alarmed at the sleep quote unquote score that I've been

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Speaker 1: assigned by some of these apps. Like, oh no, if

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Speaker 1: it were in terms of a test that you take

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Speaker 1: in elementary school, I'd get a constant f. My sleep

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Speaker 1: score is like a sixty one one percent. Okay, these

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Speaker 1: apps know how poorly I sleep, but they offer no

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Speaker 1: suggestions for how to actually fix it.

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Speaker 2: So I guess that's the I offer you a suggestion.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've tried the apps, but but they get me

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Speaker 1: to sleep. They don't keep me asleep.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem. Oh, I gotcha, Sere.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with this. I do.

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Speaker 2: I do see where you're going. How are you doing otherwise,

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Speaker 2: ty how is your college football brain? My college football

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Speaker 2: brain is great. I don't know if you saw, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of people have tweeted us now thanking us

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Speaker 1: And I actually looked this morning. The solid verbal Among

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Speaker 1: the many thousands of groups in ESPN's bull Confidence Pool,

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Speaker 1: the solid verbal has the second highest average score so

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Speaker 1: far through like five games. Mind you, but sure, but

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Speaker 2: Would you say, because I don't think I've missed a

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you record was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I missed one. I missed the UCF game. Oh, sorry

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Speaker 1: to hear it. I tried to convince you. Would you

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Speaker 1: a December to remember. If you look outside, Tye, there

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Speaker 2: This isn't the seasons. It's not about me not sharing

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Speaker 2: Ty and what you did telling people to invest big

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Speaker 2: early in these ballgames. I think it really speaks to

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Speaker 1: Us, the lexus with the bow. You are too much, man.

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Speaker 1: We are parking.

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Speaker 2: Can we start with personal news. Yes, we have a venue.

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Speaker 2: We have tickets that will be telling you in a

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Speaker 1: Well, you pick the venue. The venue is Hill Country Chicken.

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Speaker 1: Hill Country Chicken. What do we know about Hill Country?

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Speaker 2: Hill Country Chicken is a wonderful place. It is in

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Speaker 2: be releasing them. You said Wednesday, This coming Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: This coming day, December twenty first, at one pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: One pm Eastern, so ten for all the people out

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Speaker 2: ten am year time, so one pm eastern. Hill Country

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Speaker 2: Chicken I shot easy call there. They have exceptionally good

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Speaker 1: They do them.

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Speaker 2: You know what they do tie They take their mini

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Speaker 2: And this season has been I mean, the official confectionery

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Speaker 2: has to be the milkshake, right, I.

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Speaker 2: So, they have ridiculously good milkshakes. And the cool thing

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Speaker 2: They have like this ridiculous basement and that's where we're

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Speaker 2: of years ago or last year actually at other Hill

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Speaker 2: Country locations. It's a great place. They do great things.

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Speaker 2: And eight pm Saturday, January fourteenth. Tickets go on sale

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Speaker 2: this coming Wednesday, the twenty first, at one pm. You

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Speaker 1: So the plan is going to be at that point

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Speaker 1: believe there are drinks. Will there be drinks? They?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I don't know if we I don't know

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get you a chicken sandwich and a shiner. Right,

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Speaker 2: But they have really good Texas beer and they have

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Speaker 2: fried chicken sandwiches. They do I don't know if they

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Speaker 2: still do this, so I can't promise this, but this

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Speaker 2: They're mashed potatoes. They like these cheesy mashed potatoes. I'm

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Speaker 2: generally not a big mashed potatoes guy, but they would

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Speaker 2: This is also a place that when I went there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's pretty cool. So that's what we're doing

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Speaker 2: at January fourteenth. It'll be at eight pm. Hopefully everybody

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Speaker 1: In absolutely and more to come on this. We are

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Speaker 1: actually a fair amount, nothing to groundbreaking, but we've got

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Speaker 1: Minnesota was threatening a boycott. Ten teammates had been suspended

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Speaker 1: They're going to play against Washington State. All's well, that

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Speaker 2: And I sort of got the intentions of the players

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Speaker 2: That that always impresses me, not to a defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: Dan. You know, Lane Kiffin I think vowed for him

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Speaker 2: He's qualified, and I just I hope for the best

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Speaker 1: All right. In grad transfer and other transfer news, a

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Speaker 2: When he was healthy, I think he played pretty well.

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Speaker 2: I think he can fit, especially Ty. In researching today's

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Speaker 1: I would be stunned if he ended up at a contender.

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Speaker 2: Colorado, Colorado has Stephen Monte.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't think he's that good.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic move for Auburn, fantastic move for Sidham. He is

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Speaker 1: He is bigger than Seawan White. He is better in

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Speaker 1: Just Alan. Yeah, like Pele.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nothing. It's nothing that Jared's Didham can't immediately

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Speaker 1: The best of that group. I agree.

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Speaker 1: Anything else we got, any other news? We could talk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's quickly run through the first five bowl game.

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Speaker 1: First five Bowl games. You had New Mexico twenty three

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Speaker 2: But you're just gonna gloss over all the Blake Shelton

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Speaker 1: As we predicted, Houston didn't show up for this game.

437
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston, they were pretty good defensively. San Diego State

438
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: didn't move the ball in any like the scoring thirty

439
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: four points, you'd think San Diego State was jumping all

440
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: over Houston. Greg went threw four picks. It was the

441
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: type of game for Greg Ward. Where by like the

442
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: middle of the third quarter, I think it was it

443
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: was Jesse Palmer and Brent doing this game. They just

444
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: started talking about what position he might play in the NFL,

445
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: because even though he had an okay season and was

446
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: just hurt throughout the all of twenty sixteen, it was

447
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: San Diego State led the country in interceptions. They I

448
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: think they picked him four times. Really nice way to

449
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: finish the season for San Diego State. And I believe

450
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: don Alle Pumphrey set the all time NCAA rushing yardage record,

451
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: which is sort of having an asterisk because postseason games

452
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: didn't count for Ron Dame, But still an amazing career

453
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Speaker 2: for Donald.

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Speaker 1: His ability to change direction very quickly, yes, is downright amazing. Yeah,

455
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: he's got moves, so good for them. That was a

456
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: nice win. Twenty four pointer for San Diego State. APP

457
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Speaker 1: State one thirty one, eleven and three San Diego State

458
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: eleven and three, San Diego State ten and three APPS State.

459
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Speaker 1: Now after a thirty one to twenty eight win over Toledo.

460
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: This is a good game, back and forth game. They

461
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Speaker 1: wanted on a late field goal, like a thirty nine

462
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: yarder something like that. Had two hundred and what seventy

463
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up here, two hundred and ninety seven

464
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: yards on the ground for app State. We knew they

465
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Speaker 1: were going to try and rush the ball, and they

466
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: held down Logan woodside as best they could. But a

467
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: good game. And I believe we both had app State

468
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: in this one, right.

469
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: We both had app State. So they have now won

470
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Speaker 2: twenty one games in two years and are just dying

471
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Speaker 2: for your respect.

472
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: Tie. I respect them, I don't respect them as much

473
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Speaker 1: as you do. You haven't been like the Big Ten.

474
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Speaker 2: But listen, what has app State done against the Big

475
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Speaker 2: Ten these past ten years?

476
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Speaker 1: App State would beat Rutgers, they'd give Maryland a game.

477
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: They already beat Michigan at Michigan well, okay in two

478
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: thousand and seven. But yes, the bottom of the Big

479
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Speaker 2: Ten is garbage.

480
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Speaker 1: Tie, all right? They won Southern miss wins twenty eight

481
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Speaker 1: to twenty one over Louisiana Lafayette.

482
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Speaker 2: Good a good career for Nick Mullins. By the way,

483
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: for Southern miss a bruiser. Yeah, really nice, nice career.

484
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: I think about a three and a half four year

485
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: starter for the Eagles and just very he's not a

486
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Speaker 2: big dude.

487
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Speaker 1: Really good career there. And finally Arkansas State takes it

488
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: to UCF thirty one thirteen. A success story for UCF

489
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: to get to a bowl game. I thought maybe they'd

490
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: look better playing a cinch a home game here, but

491
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: Arkansas State jumped on him early. They were of seventeen

492
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Speaker 1: to nothing after the first quarter and then they sort

493
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: of cruised to victory.

494
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Speaker 2: The d analytics loved Arkansas State in this game. Great defense,

495
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: really nice here for Blake Anderson. It was Kendall Sanders

496
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: who had a nice day through the air, caught a

497
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: bunch and I looked this up.

498
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Speaker 1: I believe UCF.

499
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Speaker 2: First of all, the third down numbers in this game.

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Speaker 2: These two teams to go six of thirty five on

501
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: third down not great. And UCF rushed Forero point four

502
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Speaker 2: yards a carry, which is what a little less than

503
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Speaker 2: a foot and a half. I also looked this up

504
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Speaker 2: Tie because I wanted to see like a foot and

505
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: a half, so we're talking about eighteen twenty inches.

506
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Speaker 1: It's roughly what they were rushing for.

507
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: That is the size of a pretty average lake trout,

508
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Speaker 2: So that's that's what you see f ran for They

509
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: ran for the length of an average fish. So there's that.

510
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: All right. We got to pay the bills here and

511
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: then we're going to go through another wave of bowl games. Dan,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the week, so look, we did okay, so far,

575
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: so far, so good, so far, so good. I mentioned

576
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Speaker 1: at the top the group's doing well. People are writing

577
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Speaker 1: in they like the advice. So far you went perfect

578
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Speaker 1: by for five. I went four out of five, so

579
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Speaker 1: so far okay. Kind of it sounds like we know

580
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. This is where the rubber really

581
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: starts to meet the road, though, because some of those

582
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: early games that we discussed are a lot of teams

583
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Speaker 1: that are you playing more music?

584
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Speaker 2: Well, ty, I want to keep the December to remember,

585
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Speaker 2: going fair enough, okay, continue.

586
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: The earlier games are are kind of the tougher ones,

587
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: because truth be told, these aren't the teams that most

588
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Speaker 1: people follow with any regularity. There's a lot less information

589
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Speaker 1: out there on those teams. Now we start getting into

590
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Speaker 1: teams that more people know. You know, we're going to

591
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: start off here with the Military Bowl and Temple Wake Forest.

592
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Speaker 1: You know the deal on Temple. You know a lot

593
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Speaker 1: about Wake Forest, We've been talking about these teams all year,

594
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Speaker 1: so I think this is going to make it a

595
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Speaker 1: little bit tougher for us to pick the winner of

596
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Speaker 1: some of these games, and also justifies why you try

597
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Speaker 1: to make your hay early in the conference pool. You

598
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Speaker 1: put your points all the way at the top. All right, Tuesday,

599
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Speaker 1: December twenty seventh, That three, three thirty pm. Excuse me?

600
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Temple is ten and three. They are a thirteen point

601
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Speaker 1: favorite over wake Forest. They are digging out from the

602
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Wakey League scandal. Temple ten and three, wake Forest six

603
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: and six. Dan, So I'm gonna say this, according to

604
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: my formula, this is a pretty big strike against taking

605
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Temple here.

606
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 2: Wait, can I call it something please? Statistics. I'm a

607
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Speaker 2: very bad person.

608
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: TI, Temple's a thirteen point favorite. That was awful. Whatever

609
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: that was. Yeah, Matt Rule left for Baylor, and you

610
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: can say what you want about that being a weird

611
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: fit and we have, but Temple now is without their

612
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: vibrant leader, and anytime that happens, we saw it with Houston.

613
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm always a little a little tentative, right, a little

614
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: tentative to jump in bed with that team. M hm.

615
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I am reassured a bit though, by how Temple closed

616
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: out at season in just destroying Navy, That to me

617
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: gives me an indication that they're still playing hard down

618
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: the stretch. And given the fact that this is a

619
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Speaker 1: senior leaden team, I find it hard to believe that

620
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Speaker 1: they're just going to take this game off. Plus it's

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Speaker 1: pretty close to home in Annapolis. Wake Forest is, you know,

622
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Speaker 1: a defensive minded team. I would say that, provided Temple

623
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Speaker 1: doesn't pack it in. I feel pretty good about Wake

624
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: not having much success on offense.

625
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: As do I I like Temple a lot here. They

626
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: had a good balanced offense all year. Raikwell Armstead was

627
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: a legitimately very good running back at a huge game

628
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: versus USF which arguably their biggest toughest game of the season.

629
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Speaker 2: And Temple clearly had the best defense in the American

630
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Speaker 2: And you know, it's losing Matt Rule and some coaches

631
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Speaker 2: to Baylor, whatever it hurts. And by the way, Matt

632
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Ruhle hired I think a significant high school coach. Yeah,

633
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: two of them two in Texas a couple of them

634
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: so yet and after the Texas recruiting scene in a

635
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: familiar way, I would say early and Temple has Hassan.

636
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: It's Hassan Reddick, and he is legitimate, legitimate, amazing defensive

637
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: star and will be an NFL player and probably a

638
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: significant one. So he will terrorize Wake Forest and their offense,

639
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: which is awful. Wake Forest offense is particularly bad, and

640
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: Wake's defense was very good, especially versus the past. And

641
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: they have a star of their own in Mark hell Lee.

642
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: Markwelle just a destructive force as well. So two of

643
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: the best defensive players may be unhralded in the country,

644
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Speaker 2: and Hassan Redick and Mark well Lee. I have twenty

645
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: four to ten Temple as my final so I have

646
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Speaker 2: them covering.

647
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: But barely. I don't have a final score prediction. I

648
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: don't even have and against the spread prediction. I do

649
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: have Temple winning, though with twenty five confidence points. I

650
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think the Temple front's really good,

651
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: really tough. I think they're going to bully wakes front,

652
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Speaker 1: and I think they win this one at the point

653
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Speaker 1: of attack. I'm not sure how Wake's moving the football here. Yeah,

654
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: they might score ten points, but Temple's got a really

655
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: good defense. They're very fundamentally sound. They're not sexy at

656
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: any position, but they're always really well prepared, at least

657
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: they were under Matt rule. I would expect that to

658
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: continue now in just one game here against Wake, I

659
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: think they can pull this one off. So I'm pretty

660
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: confident in Temple. I got twenty five confidence points. All right, sure, Dan,

661
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: do you have the gifts for the Military Bowl in

662
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Speaker 1: front of you?

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Speaker 2: Three hundred dollars Microsoft gift card. I don't know what

664
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Speaker 2: you spend that on. Apparently people like, what is it?

665
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: The surface?

666
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, surface pro Yeah.

667
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: People like that. I think, yeah, no know, an under

668
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: armour backpack and beanie and headphones. So they're not clear

669
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: about it. And it's presented by Northrop Grumman. So I

670
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: assume everybody is getting what an RPG.

671
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: Of something like that. Yeah, but yeah, three hundred dollars.

672
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: What is available from Microsoft? What does Microsoft sell?

673
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Speaker 2: Xbox?

674
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Speaker 1: Oh?

675
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Speaker 2: Idea, get an expot that's a great idea. Yeah, grab

676
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: an Xbox.

677
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Seems like a good gift.

678
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's a good ball.

679
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the National Funding Holiday Bowl. Dan Yes

680
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Speaker 1: talked about this one a little bit in our news section.

681
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: This one's also on Tuesday. It's later on in the

682
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Speaker 1: evening at seven pm. It's on ESPN and Washington State

683
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: at least of time of I guess jotting these notes

684
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: down was a six and a half point favorite. I

685
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know if that's changed at all. They will be

686
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: playing Minnesota, we know that now, but there are a

687
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: lot of distractions here. We talked about it at the top.

688
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: That's a huge strike against Minnesota here. When I took

689
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Speaker 1: my notes, I was all in on Wazoo for eleven

690
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: confidence points. I am not going to change that because,

691
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: quite honestly, the ESPN system mixes it up a bit

692
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Speaker 1: if you go in there and start changing stuff around.

693
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to leave it as is. Typically, this

694
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: is a fun game, so maybe maybe it will confute.

695
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Typically there's a fun game, so maybe the outcome will

696
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: be a bit confusing. I don't know. I just feel

697
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: like there's so much going against Minnesota with these added distractions.

698
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: Washington State was a good team despite not closing out

699
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: the season as strongly as they would have hoped. It

700
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Speaker 1: feels to me like there'd be a ton of reasons

701
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Speaker 1: to go Washington State here to not only win and cover.

702
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: So I'll say Wazoo, I'm gonna keep it at eleven

703
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: confidence points. But if I could make it more without

704
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: screwing my whole thing up, I would.

705
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Speaker 2: Just to clarify, we hope. And as it relates to

706
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: distractions that nothing bad happened, like that's much more important

707
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Speaker 2: than the prospect of.

708
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Speaker 1: The holod well, I think that that should go without saying.

709
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Speaker 2: It does go without saying. But yes, and god, Minnesota

710
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: just completely football wise, their schedule this year was such

711
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: trash ti They were I think the only team in

712
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: the Big Ten lucky enough they got four of the five, Like,

713
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: if you were lucky enough to get five of the five,

714
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: that would have been a miracle. But they got marilynd Rutgers, Illinois,

715
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: and Purdue this year. It's somehow all worked out and

716
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: they missed Minnesota missed, I believe, Michigan and Ohio State,

717
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: yes they did. They have Penn State they lost. That

718
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: was an overtime early on in the season. Minnesota's schedule

719
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: was the equivalent of being in socks on a freshly

720
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: laminated and waxed wooden floor where you just sort of glide. Yeah,

721
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: you just They just sort of glided through their Big

722
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Ten slate of nothing quarterbacks. So I just don't like

723
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: Minnesota all that much in terms of being tested and

724
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: prepared for a good Wazoo team. Wazoo's offense was efficient,

725
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: They kept charging on, they marched down the field consistently.

726
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: They were very good against bigger plays, which Minnesota doesn't

727
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: generate anyway. Their defense is fine, and when you have

728
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: an offense that prolific as Wazoo does, that's totally good enough.

729
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: That is, and considering where Wazoo's defense used to be,

730
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: it's a big success story what they've done defensively with

731
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: Alex Grinch. Minnesota's defense was pretty good, but the competition

732
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: was was pretty low. Just it's hard toge. I have

733
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Speaker 2: thirty to seventeen Wazoo.

734
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Speaker 1: I think Wazoo is good enough on defense to keep

735
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota pretty one dimensional here. Yes, and I'm assuming that

736
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: Minnesota wants to play in this game, they come out

737
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: fired up. I think the way to beat Wazoo would

738
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: be through the air, and Mitch Leidner hasn't done that

739
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: all year. It's just not what he's good at. So

740
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Speaker 1: I think that's a huge matchup disadvantage that goes against

741
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: the Golden Gophers here. I will go Washington State to

742
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: win and cover and again I feel way more confident

743
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: about it than I originally did when I jotted this down.

744
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: So give me Wazoo to win and cover.

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00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 2: Mike Leach and those Cougar teams though have always they've

746
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: never been able to pull away from teams, perhaps lesser

747
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: teams in Bowl games. And last year obviously the weather

748
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: was crazy in the Sun Bowl. But I'm gonna keep

749
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: a track of I guess, but I like Wazoo.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember ten years ago in the Insight Bowl

751
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: when Mike Leach played Minnesota.

752
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: You might have to refresh my memory.

753
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: They were trailing thirty five to seven at half and

754
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: they came back in one.

755
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: Players in this game will be receiving a trip to

756
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Speaker 2: a gift suite, a fossil watch and a new Era cap.

757
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: And we've had a couple of people email us asking

758
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: what a gift suite is, and I was pretty sure

759
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: I knew what it was, but I verified. So if

760
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: you're wondering when we say gift suite, with these bold

761
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: gift packages whatever, there is a room set up somewhere,

762
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: you know what a media hotel wherever it is in

763
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: which players can come and there are products everywhere, and

764
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: you are allotted a certain number of points. So let's

765
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: say you're given ten points. I think different products are

766
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Speaker 2: given a different value points wise, So like if you're

767
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: given ten points, you can get a bike for eight

768
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: points and headphones for two points. You can just sort

769
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Speaker 2: of figure out what you want to get from an

770
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Speaker 2: array of products, which is pretty cool in.

771
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Speaker 1: The new age of d analytics. Yes, and certainly with

772
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Speaker 1: the degree of nerdiness that I bring to the show,

773
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Speaker 1: you and I would totally overthink that points process.

774
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely we would.

775
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Speaker 1: We'd be going for efficiency. What can we get the

776
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Speaker 1: most bang for our points from in neither one?

777
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: Where is their value? How much will you use at

778
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: We would overthink that and screw it up.

779
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Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely. The Motel six Cactus Bowl get hyped. You

780
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Speaker 1: have stayed a Motel six, Of course I have. There's

781
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Speaker 1: a Motel six in State College, PA that I'm not

782
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: kidding has a toilet that runs like a jet engine.

783
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: One specific toilet or all of their toilets.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine it's all of them, unless it was

785
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Speaker 1: one specific room. But I stayed in one. It was

786
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Speaker 1: the loudest and most intense toilet I've ever witnessed.

787
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Speaker 2: One of the great things about traveling for college football

788
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: is you develop an ability to make peace and or

789
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Speaker 2: defend a decision to stay in a particularly bad motel

790
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Speaker 2: or hotel and it's like thirty miles away from town.

791
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: And not to say Motel sixes are bad, they're totally fine.

792
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: I ride with Best Western if I'm going to stay

793
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: in a motel if, well, but that's that's just made.

794
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: But like you see the advertising, like, hey they have showtime. Everybody,

795
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: it's pretty good they have showtime. So yeah, Motel six

796
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: is sponsoring the Cactus Ball.

797
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: This one's also on Tuesday evening ten fifteen on ESPN

798
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: between Boise State. Boise went ten and two this season,

799
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: and they are like a seven, seven and a half

800
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: point favorite over the Baylor Bears. Baylor started out six

801
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: and oh, ended up oh and six. They finished the

802
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: year six and six. So this I think is another

803
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: test of my theory. The theory is that motivation, you know,

804
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: means something during bowl season. This is a pretty good

805
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: test case. Baylor, as I just mentioned, started hot, finished cold.

806
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: Every Baylor reporter, every fan that I've talked to, they've

807
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: all told me the same story. The team pretty much

808
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: mailed it in mm hmm. On top of that, you've

809
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: got a current coach whose term is set to expire.

810
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: All the wheels are in motion for them to move

811
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: on to the Matt Rule era. The only thing standing

812
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: in their way is this game, and the game itself

813
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: is completely meaningless, doesn't mean anything. It's a Cactus Bowl,

814
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: it's in Tempe, it's a Chase Field, it's a nice

815
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: place to go. Otherwise, there's really no reason for Baylor

816
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: to care about this football game. They're moving on one

817
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: way or the other. So with that in mind, I

818
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: feel very confident in Boise State here and like thirty

819
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: confidence points.

820
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 2: I think that's why it's never a great sign when

821
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: a team or group of players are a coach needs

822
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: to clarify, oh, yes, we.

823
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Speaker 1: Would like to go to a bowl, thank you.

824
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Speaker 2: That's my point. It's it's never a good sign.

825
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: And Boise, you know, for their part, they sort of

826
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: limped a bit to the finish, true, but across the

827
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Speaker 1: board there's still pretty rock solid. The efficiency metrics love

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Speaker 1: Boise and you've got a strong contingent of seniors on

829
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: their team too. I got to believe they want to

830
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: go out in style. So gimme, gimme Boyse here to

831
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Speaker 1: win cover and for like thirty confidence points.

832
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: Boise, You're right. They were efficient scoring the ball. They

833
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: struggled a little bit on the ground with consistency, but

834
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: jere Jeremy McNichols was a terrific all purpose weapon. Two

835
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: really good wide receivers, and Thomas Spurwack and Sie Druk Wilson.

836
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: I know it's probably Cedric, but I like sing Zu Druck.

837
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: When they were bad on third down, that's when they

838
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 2: got into trouble. When they were unable to keep drives going,

839
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: that's when they lost or almost lost. I don't think

840
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: Baylor's defense is good enough to force trouble for Boise

841
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: States offense. Boise's defense, although took a step back against

842
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: the run, very good against the past. Two really good

843
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: defensive linemen and Sam mc kiskell, Sam mc caskell and

844
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: David Moa. As we've seen, Poise just developed really good

845
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: defensive players year in and year out, and Baylor was pretty

846
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: much average in everything that they did. Zack Smith, freshman quarterback,

847
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: taking the place of Seth Russell when he got hurt.

848
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: He had his moments, but was a freshman Baylor's defense.

849
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: They stop some bigger plays, but they gave up a

850
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: lot of points. I like boys here thirty four to twenty.

851
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: What's the gift situation? Here?

852
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: The gift situation? Excuse me? At the Cactus Bowl is

853
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: a gift? Sweet visit and oh Gio Baha seventy backpack.

854
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: I've heard wonderful things about the Baja seventy. A fossil watch,

855
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: and a mixer bottle. I don't know exactly what that is.

856
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: Mixer bottle?

857
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: What is a mixer? There's no brand here, so it's

858
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: hard to look up. So when we google mixer bottle

859
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: for like a protein shake or something, I would assume. So, yeah,

860
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: like it's something that you can. Yeah, it looks like

861
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Speaker 2: it's a body building thing, which if you've seen a

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Speaker 2: picture of tie in me. Yeah, that's why we're unfamiliar

863
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Speaker 2: with mixer bottles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess.

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Speaker 2: It's you can you can put a bunch of stuff

866
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: into a bottle and shake it up.

867
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: All right, Where are we going next here?

868
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: New Era pin Strike Bowl? No, not this bowl? Yeah, baby,

869
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: I hate this bowl. There's actually gonna be good weather

870
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: in New York Wednesday.

871
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: I have a New Era pinch Stripe Bowl hat. Thanks

872
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: to you, Pinstripe Bowl Champions.

873
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: Hat Pinstripe Bowl Champions.

874
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Wednesday, December twenty eighth, two pm on ESPN. They play

875
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: it in Yankee Stadium, which is a cool venue. I

876
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: gotta say, I've seen a football game in Yankee Stadium's

877
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: cool venue. It's between Pitt and Northwestern Pit eight and four,

878
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: Northwestern six and six. Pits about a five and a

879
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: half point favorite. So look, I was looking at this

880
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: one when it did my studying earlier in the week.

881
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: I could see this game going one hundred different directions.

882
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: But if you look at both teams, talk about a

883
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: contrast in resumes here. Yes, Pit beat Penn State and

884
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Clemson this season. Clearly they already have more quality wins,

885
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: but they played some tough competition. Northwestern, Dan, what's the

886
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: best he can say about Northwestern?

887
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: They've got a really good, unpronounceable pass rusher in a

888
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: f Eddio Dinegbo'. That's the thing. No, Austin Carr was

889
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: Austin Carr is going to be like a fourth round

890
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: draft pick and we'll catch like twelve hundred yards worth

891
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: every year.

892
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: But in terms of their resume, Dan, right, I'm not

893
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: talking players in terms of resume. They lost by one

894
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: to Western Michigan and buy three to Ohio State. That's

895
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: the best I can do. Want to beat Michigan State,

896
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: who was a bad team. They beat Duke, who beat

897
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They beat Iowa, who beat Michigan. A lot

898
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: of transitive property going on here, but I'll big listen.

899
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: Northwestern Math school transitive wins. Okay, we can count it.

900
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: And Northwestern held pretty tough with Illinois State, but we

901
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: lost by two. So look, here is where we differentiate

902
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: between a confidence pool where we're picking straight up winners

903
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: and normally during the season, like we go against the spread.

904
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: I think I put thirty five points on Northwestern plus

905
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: five and a half here, Okay, because the thing that

906
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: I think I'm most confident in, I'm with you there

907
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: by the way is right, is that this is going

908
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: to be a three point game one way or the other.

909
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: Is a tight game. So if I could do something

910
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: like that, I would put a thousand points on just

911
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: being a three point win one way or the other.

912
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: But if I have to pick a straight up winner,

913
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: I think it's pit. I think it's pit. I'm not

914
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: super confident, thirteen points confident, But I think they close

915
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: out their season pretty well, three straight wins over Clemson, Duke,

916
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: and Syracuse. On offense, they look good in all three

917
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: of those games. The Syracuse game got a little loose

918
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: loose defensively, but they've got momentum, and it's James Conner's

919
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: final game before he goes the NFL, so I'm thinking,

920
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is a pretty nice spot for Pitt

921
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: here to continue the trend, continue building and pushing forward.

922
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: I'm not super excited about that selection, but I am

923
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: forced to pick one, so I'm gonna say Pit like

924
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty one.

925
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Ty, if you like open receivers,

926
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 2: the Pinstripe Bowl is for you because these two pass

927
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: defenses are trash. So Pit's gonna be without Matt Canada,

928
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: who is the new LSU offensive coordinator. We didn't mention

929
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: that at the top, but I think a really nice

930
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: higher although I would argue also the stars sort of

931
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: aligned for Pitt this year in terms of experience and

932
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: talent and depth everywhere on offense, but Pitt had I

933
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: would argue, the clear best passing offense in the acc

934
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: they were more efficient than everybody, and they played good teams.

935
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: So I'm very high on the job that Matt Canada

936
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: and Nate Peterman did all season long, especially against the

937
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: better teams on their schedule. They're excellent in the red zone.

938
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: The defense is pretty good against the run and just

939
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: atrocious versus the pass. It's slightly improved at the end

940
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: of the year. But yeah, that Syracuse game wasn't pretty

941
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: and Northwestern is just the consummate okay team, And I

942
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: like Pitt here twenty seven to twenty three, but you

943
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: seem to like this game. Seems to feel like in

944
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: your zone of everything to you is pointing to pit

945
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: winning straight up and you're not going against that instincts

946
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: as what brought you so much success this year. Well,

947
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: so far, I'm eighty percent Bowl season, so I'm gonna

948
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: yeah December to remember. It's different when you talk about

949
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: point spread versus straight up winner point spread. I struggled

950
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 2: mightily this season straight up winner. I think I would

951
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: have fared a little better. Should also add the worst

952
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: possible gifting to me description anyway, Okay.

953
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: Is it worse than the Lockheed Martin Bowl that we

954
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: talked about on the last show.

955
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: Okay, the Lockheed Martin Bowl, you get a holiday sweater,

956
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: a football, and a bad and a gift suite appearance,

957
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: which is not great, right, the.

958
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: Worst singular entity there is a sweater.

959
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: Officially, the official party line for the new Arapin Straight

960
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: Bowl is a variety of New Era products the end.

961
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: What else do they make beside the hat.

962
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: Beanies? I have no idea, but hopefully New Era also

963
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: makes iPads?

964
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: All right? So compare right, thank you? Compare Compare the

965
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: gift suites again between Lockheed Martin a new era.

966
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so Lockheed Martin once again is giving people a

967
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: gift sweet appearance, which we don't know. At least there's

968
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 2: some mystery of the unknown. Finnrods festive were holiday sweater,

969
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: a football and a beanie?

970
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: What are they giving away at the pinch Stripe Bowl?

971
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: A variety of New era products? Huh, I'm almost inclined.

972
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: There's no gift suite, noted.

973
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm going New era. Oh dumb. Look, you're a football player.

974
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: You don't need a football. What you need a football

975
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: for you get any time? You wont it a beanie?

976
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, just the presence of a gift suite

977
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: trumps that a beanie and a sweater.

978
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: I'd take my luck. I'd press my luck with the

979
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: hats man. At least you know you can wear a

980
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: hat if you get.

981
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: The gift suite, might have awesome things in it.

982
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: All right, let's pay some bills here. All right, let's

983
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: do that. Pay some bills. Talking a lot of bowl

984
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 1: games on the last couple shows we've got, I guess

985
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: two more shows to do previewing, previewing Bowl games. What

986
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: I would suggest is, if you're looking to maybe go

987
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: to any of these games, you can get some good deals.

988
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992
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Speaker 1: We've been talking about the experience. If you're a fan,

993
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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to go to these games. Got a

994
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995
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996
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1005
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,879
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1006
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I do. Let me check that out. You

1007
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1009
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1011
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Speaker 1: Dan sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Absolutely

1020
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Speaker 1: all of our listeners will get a twenty dollars rebate

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1027
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1028
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: is solid do it today. As I mentioned, Dan, yes,

1029
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: we're going to the Russell Athletic Bowl now. It is

1030
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, December twenty eighth at five thirty pm Eastern

1031
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: on ESPN. And it's a pretty interesting matchup. I gotta

1032
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: say between the Miami Hurricanes at eight and four, they're

1033
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 1: about a field goal favorite over West Virginia, who went

1034
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: ten and two this season. Dan, who you.

1035
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 2: Got, Well, I'm I got the hope that Blake Shelton

1036
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 2: will be doing Russell Athletic. Let me tell you about

1037
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: Russell Athletic. So, West Virginia had a really good offensive year,

1038
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: a good defensive year. They were a pretty complete team.

1039
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: They finished the season ten and two, probably not the

1040
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: end of the season that they would have liked, but

1041
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: all things considered, a huge success. For Daniel Holgerson in

1042
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: the Mountaineers Miami and Mark ricks first year. Not great

1043
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 2: on the ground, They were fine passing the ball. The

1044
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: defense was really good in terms of limiting point limiting points.

1045
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: They were great in the red zone in West Virginia

1046
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: is sort of average in the red zone. I actually

1047
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: think and I know Miami is slightly favored here. I

1048
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: think Miami covers and I think they win. I think

1049
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: defensively they'll be able to keep West Virginia in check.

1050
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: I think maybe force a couple turnovers. I like Miami here.

1051
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty.

1052
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned that West Virginia was pretty good on offense

1053
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: this year. Yes, you were complete a very good running team. Okay,

1054
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: I would argue that they did not have a truly

1055
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: great efficient game again against any team on their schedule

1056
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: with a decent defense.

1057
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable to say they ran for a

1058
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: ton against Oklahoma in a loss.

1059
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: They ran for a ton, and I guess you could

1060
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: count byu earlier in the year. That was pretty efficient,

1061
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: but otherwise just a lot to be desired. Miami, on

1062
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: the other hand, I thought they looked really, really good

1063
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: after losing the game to Notre Dame. After they lost

1064
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: that game, they went through a rough stretch, but they

1065
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: hammered Pitt. They beat NSTI State on the road. I

1066
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: still think this is a pretty good team, and I

1067
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: feel like they're trending in the right direction. There's sort

1068
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: of been this aura this year around Miami being a

1069
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: program that's building something under Mark Rick that he knows

1070
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: what he's doing. I hope brad Kaya six around another year.

1071
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: I would imagine he could go pro if he wanted,

1072
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: but there's definitely a chance that he can be much

1073
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: improved if he comes back for another year of ripening

1074
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: under Mark rickt I just I like their momentum. I

1075
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: think they win, I think they cover. I'm confident I'm

1076
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: going to Miami in twenty six points.

1077
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 2: I think that that's right.

1078
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: I think I don't.

1079
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: I don't think that's an unfair way to view this game.

1080
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't.

1081
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't see anything on brad Kaya's I see leaning

1082
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: towards the NFL of two days.

1083
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: He should he should come back. I think he should.

1084
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: I think his stock is not super high right now

1085
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: because who's coming out next year. Originally it looked like

1086
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen was going to be the bell of the ball.

1087
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: But after this season, after this season, it was a

1088
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: rough year, a huge sophomore slump, and he was beat up.

1089
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: So what happens next year means to be seeing Brad kaya.

1090
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: Brad Kaye has got potential. I'm looking here, So next

1091
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 1: year we'll be a Lamar Jackson. Here'll be Brett Ripping

1092
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 1: at Poise State. I'm looking at the notable sophomores. Trace

1093
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: McSorley if he has another big year. I'm telling you,

1094
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: I looked at that Big Ten quarterbacks list and it

1095
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: is Trace mcsorly and Disappointment. If he had a band,

1096
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: it would be called trace McSorley in the Disappointment. Okay,

1097
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: with other Big Ten quarterbacks. Yeah, it's not a particular

1098
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Jake Browning's a sophomore this year and certainly

1099
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: against maybe not the best teams on Washington schedule, was incredible.

1100
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: There's there's just.

1101
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the juniors other than Brad Kaya. I

1102
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: mean Luke Fowk I think is going pro. Mason Rudolph

1103
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: is a junior. Baker Mayfield said he was coming back,

1104
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: but who knows about his NFL prospects. Yeah, there's nothing

1105
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: that really indicates all sorts of crazy depth of quarterbacks.

1106
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,479
Speaker 1: Good year. If he has a really good year next year,

1107
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: there's a case to be made for him to be

1108
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: first quarterback off the board.

1109
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking here, nobody, I mean no, next year it'll

1110
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: be Josh Rosen.

1111
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: You know that no one's higher on Josh Rosen than

1112
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: I am. But I'm skept. Danny Etling, Yeah, Danny e Ling,

1113
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: moving on. Okay, all right, what's the gift situation here?

1114
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: Rust Athletic bull very solid as our friendly ellis would say,

1115
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars best by shopping trip. You could cut

1116
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: it there, and that's already a big win.

1117
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: That's ready better than Lockheed Martin, already better than a

1118
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: new era.

1119
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you've got a timely watch company. Watch I slide sandals.

1120
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: Slide sandals sounds try slide which, by the way, don't

1121
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: name your sandal company and have it sound like a lubrication.

1122
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just die. Just don't just do not. We

1123
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: have a beach towel and we have an athletic performance pullover. Fine,

1124
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: that's a big win.

1125
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: That's fine.

1126
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: If you're a Miami or West Virginia player, you should

1127
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: be very happy.

1128
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: All right. The Foster Farms Bowl in Santa Clara.

1129
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: Chicken is what it's listed on the Bowl suite.

1130
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: Chicken Levi's Stadium. Also on Wednesday, eight point thirty in

1131
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: the evening on Fox Utah at eight and four about

1132
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: an eight point favorite over Indiana. Indiana finished six and six. Dan,

1133
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about motivations, been talking a

1134
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: lot about coaches leaving. How about coaches being outright fired. Yeah,

1135
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: that factors in two. I don't like this situation at

1136
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: all for Indiana. Why the coach being fired for all

1137
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: field reasons. That's not a distraction.

1138
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 2: I think it's it's somewhat of a distraction. But there's

1139
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: continuity with Tom Allen being there's continuity.

1140
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: But here here's the larger point. Utah is the kind

1141
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: of team that if you do not play them with

1142
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: one hundred percent focus, they will beat you. Yes, that's

1143
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: the kind of team that Utah is. They're very fundamentally sound.

1144
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: They're going to come into this game ready. They're going

1145
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: to come into this game, I think, ready to run

1146
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: the football right down Indiana's throat. I am very confident

1147
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: and then winning. I don't know about covering, but I

1148
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: do like Utah here to win the game outright to

1149
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: the tune of like twenty nine confidence points.

1150
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, it should be noted this is, as far as

1151
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: I can tell, the one Bowl game not broadcast by ESPN,

1152
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: or at least the one Bowl game that Fox has.

1153
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: Does the Sunball still go to CBS. Let's say there.

1154
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: Is a game that is being broadcast on a network

1155
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: I've never heard of before, and it might be the

1156
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: Sun Bowl.

1157
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the American Sports Network is doing the Home

1158
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: Loans Arizona Bowl between Airports or South Alabama.

1159
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1160
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what the American Sports Network is, but

1161
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: CBS has the Sun Bowl. The only ball Fox has

1162
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: is this game. And I would love it if like

1163
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: Fox went above and beyond, like they had the desk

1164
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: on the field for the Foster Farms Bowl. They had

1165
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: like a crew of like eight people weighing in on

1166
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: this game, and like Bruce and Stu.

1167
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: Let's go down to the field with Rob Stone, Matt Lionert,

1168
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: and Bredy Quinn. Yeah.

1169
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do some version of game day that morning

1170
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: for the Foster Farms Bowl. So it's hard to sort

1171
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: of fully understand Indiana with having interim made full time

1172
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: coach Tom Allen. Their defense is widely improved. Again heart

1173
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: to gauge against Big Ten offenses. Something that you pointed

1174
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: out about Indiana's scoring points. Indiana threw the second most

1175
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: interceptions in the Big Ten, and their their pass efficiency

1176
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: numbers are still like fourth. Yeah, exactly, That's how bad

1177
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: the Big Ten game is.

1178
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: In general.

1179
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: Utah's offense is okay. Joe Williams is very good. Their

1180
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 2: defense is okay against the run, and somehow attroches against

1181
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: the past even having Hunter Dimmick, you know, maybe the

1182
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: most underrated and dominant defensive lineman in college football.

1183
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right.

1184
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: I think Utah takes advantage of teams that are sort

1185
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: of everywhere in their focus. So I'm going to say

1186
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: Utah twenty three to seventeen.

1187
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Do we have a Bowl

1188
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: gift situation here.

1189
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: Chick in in this game the Foster Farms, we have

1190
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: a gift suite of Fossil Watch and a tim Buck

1191
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: to backpack. Now give him Bobby pretty decent. I I

1192
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: tie in my daily life in real life. My messenger

1193
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: bag that I wear to and from work is tim

1194
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: Buck two. Really, it's been very solid for me. Yeah,

1195
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm more of a targets guy myself. I don't know

1196
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: what that is.

1197
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: Different kind of backpack. Pa. I'm reading here that Foster Farms,

1198
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: United States West Coast Poultry Company. It's been privately owned

1199
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: and operated by the Foster family since nineteen thirty nine.

1200
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 2: It's Deshaun Foster's family company.

1201
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: That can't be true. That can't be true.

1202
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: That is not true at all.

1203
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of chicken representation here in the bowls

1204
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: this year.

1205
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good. I mean, if it's in this is

1206
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: what San Francisco, it is in Santa Clara, y Santa Clara,

1207
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: excuse me. I would assume that a gift suite in

1208
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: the Greater Silicon Valley area is probably be pretty good.

1209
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to assume that.

1210
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say that this is probably upper

1211
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: fifteen percent of gift suites.

1212
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: That seems reasonable to me. Yeah.

1213
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really like my Tim Buck Tubec.

1214
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: The Advocare V one hundred Texas Bowl Dan m hm.

1215
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: After many years of not knowing a thing about Advocare

1216
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: V one hundred, I now know it's a vitamin company, Tye.

1217
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: And I can't stress this enough Advocare is definitely not

1218
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: a pyramid scheme scam. It is definitely not Oh no, no, no,

1219
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: not at all.

1220
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: They play this one at the nerg Energy Stadium in Houston.

1221
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: Texas Bowl is a clash between one team in Texas, Texas.

1222
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: A and M. At eight and four, they're a two

1223
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: point favorite over K State also at eight and four.

1224
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: They do play this one on Wednesday night, nine thirty

1225
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on esp and Dan Okay, I am super

1226
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: tempted to go ky State here, Yeah, really truly tempted.

1227
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: A and M struggled down the stretch against the run,

1228
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much all K State does. The X

1229
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: factor here though, And why I'm not gonna do it

1230
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: is because I think A and M's going to be

1231
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: back and healthy again along their line. Miles Garrett will

1232
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: be back if he is back. And considering what A

1233
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: and M has on offense just out wide, I feel

1234
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: they are too athletic for K State. K State doesn't.

1235
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 1: They don't do that athletic thing very well. You can

1236
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: out athletic then that's not really a thing, but I'm

1237
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: making it up. You can be more athletic than K State,

1238
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: and that stands for something K State also didn't beat

1239
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: a single winning team all year. They beat two teams

1240
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: that were six and six. It was a typical Bill

1241
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: Snyder kind of season where he just finds a way

1242
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: to cobble it all together, runs the crap out of

1243
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: the ballplays defense. I think A and M wins here.

1244
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm not overly confident. I think they win and cover

1245
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: to the tune of twelve confidence points here?

1246
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: Am I right? Did K State exclusively lose to the

1247
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: rank teams on their schedule?

1248
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: I believe so that's correct.

1249
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it depends on who you're talking about,

1250
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: but that's still pretty good. They didn't lose to a

1251
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: team that they shouldn't have lost to. They lost to

1252
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma schools, and they lost to Stanford in West Virginia,

1253
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: which they probably should have lost those games, but they

1254
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: didn't lose anything stupid. Whereas text A and M is

1255
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: in a place, they're like the complete opposite type programs

1256
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: and Texts A and M to me feels like a

1257
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: car that the owner is bragging about buying. It's so

1258
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: expensive and flashy and beautiful and fast, but you have

1259
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: to like replace the transmission every three months.

1260
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: And then you see the car facts on it.

1261
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's just so much, like you have to

1262
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: put in gas that's not available at every gas station.

1263
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: Like there's just so much that actually under the hood

1264
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: is not particularly good. I like KSE State in this game.

1265
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: Actually they've they won five of their last six, including

1266
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: teams that were against teams that were definitely more athletic

1267
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: than KSE State. K State runs the ball pretty well.

1268
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: They're dreadful passing the ball, but that's not terribly new.

1269
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: They have the best rush defense in the Big Twelve,

1270
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: which isn't to say a ton, but they're so so

1271
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: against the past. Jordan Willis had a huge year for

1272
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: them on defense and text A and m. It just

1273
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: seemed like they would either have a very long touchdown

1274
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: or the offense would struggle, and their defense was average

1275
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: versus the run and bad all things, especially bad against

1276
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: the past considering what they should have been doing against

1277
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: quarterbacks playing and play out. So I am just going

1278
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: to roll with the team that I can count on

1279
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 2: a little bit more.

1280
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: I go.

1281
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: I have Kansas State twenty seven to twenty three.

1282
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: I just can't get past the fact that am should

1283
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: be healthy along their d line for this game. All right,

1284
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: I think I think that spells trouble for k State.

1285
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: But you're not wrong in saying that K State is

1286
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: a more reliable team.

1287
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: Who has the better quarterback in this game. Trevor Knight,

1288
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: how confident are you in that?

1289
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm fairly confident. At least I know he can throw.

1290
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: Well, he's beat up. I mean he's playing. I believe so.

1291
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: Trevor Knight, in the SEC Conference without particularly good quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: finished ninth in in pass efficiency through for six point

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01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: three yards per attempt. He is approaching kyleer Shermer levels

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Speaker 2: of productivity. He is approaching Kyle Shermer. A and M

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Speaker 2: got to the red zone. We can cale Schumer as often,

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Speaker 2: exactly as often as as Vanderbilt did in SEC play. Granted,

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Speaker 2: Vanderbilts in the East. Text A and M is a

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Speaker 2: February team.

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Speaker 1: All right, what's the gift situation here?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, text A and M. I still like you. Texas

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Speaker 2: A and M and Kansas State players will be receiving

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Speaker 2: a trip to a gift suite. A belt buckle, okay,

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: in Texas thing Brian Kelly would love that. He would

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: that an Adidas backpack and our favorite lubricating sandals, the

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01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: eye slides.

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Speaker 1: Eye slides.

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Speaker 2: Can we look up here, let's look at ice slides.

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Speaker 1: Ice slide sandals. Mm hmm. Just doesn't sound safe.

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Speaker 2: It looks like they're a shark tank company.

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Speaker 1: I like that they have the little nubs for you.

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Speaker 1: They do.

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Speaker 2: They are like shower sandal esque. They have licensing from

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Speaker 2: major sports teams. It looks like but.

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Speaker 1: Why are they called I slide? I don't know, and

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Speaker 1: slide around in them? See, I'd be worried that I'd

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Speaker 1: slip and fall. I think it's to prevent sliding, which

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Speaker 1: makes the title very It's like calling someone little John. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right? And then finally the Birmingham Bowl. You know

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Speaker 1: where they play this game, Dan, Toledo. They played this

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Speaker 1: game in Birmingham, Alabama at Legion Field. This is a

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Speaker 1: Thursday game at two pm Eastern on ESPN. USF ten

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Speaker 1: and two on the year. They're a ten and a

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Speaker 1: half point favorite against the South Carolina game Cocks. South

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Speaker 1: Carolina and Will Muschamp went six and six. USF is

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Speaker 1: a pretty healthy favorite here, Dan, Is there a reason

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't blindly side with USF and the Bulls?

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Speaker 2: Oh? They lost their head coach.

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Speaker 1: H So there's that.

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Speaker 2: So us F is in. I mean, Charlie Strong won't

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Speaker 2: be coaching this game. But USF is in a pretty

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01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: good position. South Carolina and I did get better over

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: the second half of the season, highlighted by the Tennessee win.

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Speaker 2: USF scores quickly and efficiently. Quinn Flowers is the clear

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Speaker 2: number two dual threat quarterback in terms of how good

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Speaker 2: he is on the ground behind Lamar Jackson. He had

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Speaker 2: an incredible year for the Bulls. South Carolina is pretty

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: good at preventing longer plays, but South Carolina's offense is

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01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: worse than USF's defense, which was pretty bad without Tom

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 2: Allen this year. So I'm gonna roll with USF ripping

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Speaker 2: off some big plays. I think Marlon Mack is one

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01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: of the really underrated running backs in college football. So

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Speaker 2: I have the Bulls here thirty to seventeen. I've got

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Speaker 2: the Bulls around the same. Le't say, like thirty four

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Speaker 2: seventeen somewhere in there, and I'm pretty confident, pretty confident

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Speaker 2: of a winning cover USF twenty four confidence points.

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Speaker 1: Gift situation in the was Birmingham Bull Yes, Okay, the

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Speaker 1: gift situation in Birmingham. We have a gift suite, okay,

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: good start, an ESPN beanie Okay, it might get cold.

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, a power charger and USB adapter. I

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: think that's thoughtful, Tie, I think that's definitely thoughtful. We've

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: talked about the USB charger before.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think it's one of the greatest gifts you

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01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 2: can give somebody a portable USB charger for their phone

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01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: and a souvenir football. So middle of the pack.

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully the gift sweet is loaded. It's better than Rockheed Martin. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that does it, Dan. We've got two

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01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: more Bowl preview shows to do, m hm. So our

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Speaker 1: next one will be on Wednesday. We will record and

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: push that guy out and then do stay tuned to

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01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: the Twitter and the Facebook because we'll let you know

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Speaker 1: what our schedule will be over the holiday season. We

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: will be previewing all these Bowl games, yep, but we

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01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 1: might have a little bit of an a regular schedule

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01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: here as we approach the holidays. Also, don't forget about

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: those tickets. If you're going to be in the New

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: York stay tuned to Twitter, stay tuned to Facebook. If

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Speaker 1: you go to either of those spots. You can find

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Speaker 1: the link right now to the event bright page. Event

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Speaker 1: bright is the service that we're using to sell our

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Speaker 1: tickets eve e n t b RI that's correct. Event

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Speaker 1: Bright is going to take the tickets sale live on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday at one pm Eastern time. As Dan mentioned at

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01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: the top, tickets are extremely limited. If you are fortunate

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Speaker 1: enough to get one, we're excited to have you. It's

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of fun. I think we've

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Speaker 1: got some cool stuff planned here.

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Speaker 2: How much we charge on turning like ten bucks?

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Speaker 1: Ten bucks? Yeah, we're not trying to make too much

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01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: bank on this, No, we won't be.

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: Well, it'll basically cover our costs to rent some equipments.

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: And save your money and support the fine folks at

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: Hill Country. Get a couple drinks and chicken sandwich.

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and also we will be using the profits

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 2: tie and I say profits as I move my fingers

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: together like Johnny Manziel. Yeah, we're going to buy some

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Speaker 2: eye slides for ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We want you. We want your finest two hundred dollars

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01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: sandals please yes, cool? Well, listen you enjoy the rest

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Speaker 1: of your weekend. Hey, enjoy your week I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you on I believe Wednesday we're scheduled again and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to more ball games, all right. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a plan. Tie for that guy over there, my

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: good friend Dan Rubenstein. For myself, Tie Hilton Brand. Thanks

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01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: again for tuning in to the Solid Verbal. Check us

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Speaker 1: out on iTunes at iTunes dot com slash Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid, Peace,