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Speaker 1: our one hundred episode. If you are looking at the visual,

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Speaker 1: But you gotta stay cognizant and understand that destruction involved

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Speaker 1: with position in this game. Again, as a seven foot

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Speaker 1: and ask some questions about something. And they never done

426
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: nothing to do to make it feel that way. It's

427
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: just that's how you feel as a black creator coming up.

428
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 1: It's just a weird thing that happened. So I hit him, like, Yo,

429
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: this is just a quick story, man, Why I really

430
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: believe these dudes. It's really bad what they're talking about

431
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: in regards to trying to help people right when it's

432
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: time is time, when the relationship is there, it is there,

433
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: and they're standing bad. So I hit him. I'm like yo,

434
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: man wallow and getting them coming to my Town. I'm

435
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: a big fan of them, Man, I want to push

436
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: your boner. Man. He was like, oh, man, yeah, that's yeah.

437
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: Let me get in contact with Wallow. That ain't nothing.

438
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, say what. In my mind, I'm thinking, Yo,

439
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: he ain't just tell me he feel hit dude up

440
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: and it's just that easy and not coach, isn't So

441
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: I hung up the phone. A couple of days, go back,

442
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: hit me back. Y'all just talked to Bro. Bro said

443
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: X Y and Z Man, I'm definitely y'all definitely gonna

444
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: link up, decides me, and we'll get it done. I'm like, Yo,

445
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: it was that easy for us to link up because

446
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: I had my relationship with one of my people that

447
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: plugged me in with one of the top people in

448
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: the game. It's just like those kind of things you

449
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: can never repay people far because not only what it

450
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: does for me externally, what it does internally, what it

451
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: does for the whereabouts, some of my confidence, what it

452
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: does for how I feel about Yo. I might really

453
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: gotta shot it changes. I'm in a circle of people

454
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: that's controlling the game, and it gives me a certain

455
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: level of like Yo, keep going, keep going, Dog, keep

456
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: going you know what I'm saying, But dude, one of

457
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: the realist dudes in the game man from you know whatever,

458
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: I ask them dudes or boat man, them dudes really

459
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: coming through man with the advice man and the heaven man.

460
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: So I want to send a shout out to them.

461
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: While I'm spending time speaking on this norrious situation in

462
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: our coach, you're thinking white ices cold or via Charlemagne

463
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: to God. But yeah, man, shout out to Rashad from

464
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: earn your leisure Man. It's a it's a blessing to

465
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: have people like that in your circle, especially as an

466
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: independent guy, you know, coming into culture, having those kind

467
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: of people that are make phone calls and put you

468
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: in position to help out your your situation. Man, if

469
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: we just don't speak about it enough. And before I

470
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: move on again, I just want to let everybody know

471
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: that don't disregard the influence of the people that's invested

472
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: in these acts. Don't always look at the outcome of

473
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: a move that's coming directly from that artist's brain. A

474
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: lot of time they're fighting behind the scenes after the fact,

475
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: especially because again in this industry that's some of the

476
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: best at packaging and bringing it to you like it's

477
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: no way it can miss or it's high probability. If

478
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: we go this way, we're gonna get the outcome that

479
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: we all been looking for. We're gonna get some money

480
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: if we go this way. And us having limited to

481
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: no information about streaming and how this ship put together,

482
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: what you're gonna just bank on your gut. And that's

483
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: what a lot of our greats have had to do

484
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: in times where they have limited to no understanding. And

485
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: these people have it on paper that says if you

486
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: go the other way, you're gonna fail. Look, it's all

487
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: right here if we explaining it to you. This line

488
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: says this, This line says that. But again, a crafty

489
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: man or savvy thinker understands right then, I see some data,

490
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: But now I'm only dealing with your interpretation of that

491
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: data because I don't know what them lines mean. I

492
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: don't know what you're saying when you said, after testing

493
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: twenty percent of all overall, thirty percent of ten percent,

494
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: we've now because I don't know what you meant when

495
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: you've done that. But I do know one thing. I'm

496
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: dealing with your interpretation or something. And what is your job?

497
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: Your job is to get me to be in a

498
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: position where both of us make money. And you think

499
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: people that I'm dealing with that white people may do

500
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: more than my people. So you ask me to spin

501
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: off and go that way. And I may like that

502
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: dude over there too, like a Yo, David Letterman, he's

503
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: a legend. I with him. But let me let me

504
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: find somebody in the coach I need to sit with too, though,

505
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: because they don't know what it's like being pregnant as

506
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: a black woman, or having a black woman pregnant value.

507
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: They don't know what it's like to have dealt with infidelity,

508
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: but being in a position or where you're rich and

509
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: you come from nothing. So now you're dealing with people

510
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: who ain't dealing with the same experiences as you when

511
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: you going to the dating pool. Now you're dealing with

512
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: a level of people who everybody I'll plug out of

513
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: this new dating pool me or you in that everybody

514
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: I plug out this dating pool ain't got my experiences.

515
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: They come from where to do bulls ze mamas, and

516
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: so we don't we can't relate. But I found one

517
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: I can relate to in the same area. It's like

518
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: finding somebody out of the wars. Ain't nobody out there.

519
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: You found somebody, I'm gonna stick with that person, because

520
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: boys lonely here as a black youngster million Now it's

521
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: lonely when you show up to that private jet clipport. Yeah,

522
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: everybody make it seem fun and make it seem funny

523
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: when they're taking pictures outside the jet. Any lady bringing

524
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: them the food. But every time we show up to

525
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: the jet clipport, it's only me and my nose. Ain't

526
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: no whole bunch of black people up there. So I

527
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 1: still gotta deal with people who ain't dealing with my people.

528
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: We're seeing a glimpse of it when thug and gunning

529
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: them head they run in with the private jet people.

530
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: So although to my people it looked like, Yo, he

531
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: doing a hell of a thing, I'm still battling with them,

532
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: battling with me being here. Picture me in one of

533
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: these all white parties. These is white big in that loon,

534
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: show up, blonde in his hell repping some rapp talking podcads.

535
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: But he shooted and booted tonight with the pointed told

536
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: shoes on and some codier glasses because he blended in

537
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: with the fashion. You know, what I'm talking about. But

538
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: they don't know how to take him. They don't know

539
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: nothing about the black how they black dude get in here.

540
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: But they all gotta act like yeah, okay, yeah, they

541
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: gotta act like it's cool. A lot of times it

542
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: is cool, but it's a it's a gap they need

543
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: to be. We gotta bridge some kind of gap. Right,

544
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: there's some understanding of Yo, what you view you're viewing

545
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: it wrong. Them change what you're viewing this high level

546
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: drug dealer because I got a bunch of chains on.

547
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: It's just trophis is saying, look at what I made

548
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: it through. Your prospective is off when you're dealing with us.

549
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: You think I'm acting tough now, the world made me tough.

550
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: What I gotta go through. I gotta leave close to

551
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: it and kill somebody. I love Mama and them don't

552
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: got the money to move away from me, kill the people.

553
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: I might run into him at the crow, at the

554
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: wall mark. I might see him at the red light,

555
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: and you you asking me to just keep my head,

556
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: just don't say nothing, And I'm dealing with emotion and

557
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: not understanding what the knixt meal comes from. Right, But

558
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: sometimes none of them understand that some of them that's

559
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: in power get close enough tours to be like, oh,

560
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I've been looking at that wrong the whole time. It's like, Nah,

561
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: that ain't what that is. Man. When coming to hurt nobody,

562
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: we're coming not to get robbed. That's why it's like that.

563
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: We take from each other. They'll walk past the bank

564
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: and robbed me. Walked past the ain and robbed me.

565
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: On the bank parking lot, I gotta I gotta twenty

566
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars chain on there, rob me and the

567
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: bank parking lot in the bank got a million in it.

568
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: They won't go in the bank. We take it rob

569
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: from each other. A lot of time you're dealing with defense,

570
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: but it come off his offense because you don't know

571
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: what you're looking at. You see what I'm saying, when

572
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a high level individual, I gotta move

573
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: a certain way. It's on defense. Have the time showing

574
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: this I'm moving Middleton. It's part of the off it's

575
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: part of the defense, but it viewed his offense because

576
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: it's like I remember they used to show man look

577
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: at them moving like the president. Yeah, that's to show people.

578
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: That's a message. But Again, when we deal with some

579
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: of those people man on the other side, they have

580
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: a limited understanding of us, and we got a bridge together.

581
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in the culture about a few things, but

582
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: again I'm able to speak about him, and I'm not

583
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: afraid to speak about Cardi b or David Letterman or

584
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: Joe Budden or anyone in our culture, you know, because

585
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I know I'm not speaking with any malists. Again, I'm

586
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: speaking with love, and love means when you speak with love,

587
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: it means to speak with the absence of judgment, not

588
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: judging anyone. We're trying to deal with the information and

589
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: what is the best way to preserve our culture. What

590
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: is the best way to provide our culture with our culture?

591
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Who has the best understanding

592
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: of what the next move may be? I always think

593
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: that innovation comes from the bottom or the middle. But again,

594
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: we gotta get our own interpretation of the data that

595
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: these people are braining us, because if we continue to

596
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: listen to them, they're gonna always say go that way

597
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: because they're dealing with sheer numbers. Sometimes we gotta elon musket,

598
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes we gotta Kanye wests it. Sometimes we gotta jay

599
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: z it. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah yeah,

600
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: don't do tight or with a never work, I know it,

601
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, it never worked right yeah, who you're laughing at?

602
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Behind doing title? I could never survive with spotifying them, right, yeah,

603
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: I get it right, never do title. You're right. And

604
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: then in the back of your head may for them people.

605
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I know my coaching gonna stand by title, and I'm

606
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna go get ahead about it. We're gonna do time

607
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: at what Because they had they had confused Jake, they

608
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: had beat him, beat his mind in a place to

609
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: where they may had started to penetrate and it may

610
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: be harder than I think. So he went and got

611
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: in about it, right, Rihanna this, and then and then

612
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: it ain't no way it can lose. Now then you

613
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: go back in the ballrooms. Now what I'm jay z

614
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I got Rihanna, I got this, I got Courtier, I

615
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: got this. And now they can't say nothing. See that

616
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: was a ballroom move that didn't translate well. But to

617
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: get funding into to get around the nay sales, you

618
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: gotta package it in the way that's undeniable because they

619
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: gonna say it don't make sense. Based on the data

620
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna work tight or never work, but we'll

621
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: never do it based on the day. Now look at it.

622
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But we gotta go with

623
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: what we know. Our coachure Man, my coachure guarantee that

624
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: if I can get the better sound, I win the

625
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: coachure guarantee. If I pay more, Man, we won't die

626
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: in this space, even though we're dealing with ty coons.

627
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: If we can put the critics there, if we can

628
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: do little things that cater to our culture and make

629
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: our culture live there in a different way, we're gonna win.

630
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: And that's how we gotta do same. Well, revote, let's

631
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: keep it going, Let's keep the colture guaranteeing us. The

632
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: coachure guarantee is, let's just keep it moving. And that's

633
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: how we got to approach it. But they're gonna be

634
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: great at convincing you that, like Yo, the numbers say, like, man,

635
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: if you drop another album right now, that's not good,

636
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Speaker 1: Like you least need to take eighteen months to let

637
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Speaker 1: that other album get it, Yo. Well what about future?

638
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: He did two back to back that time and got

639
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Speaker 1: hotter than ever came over mind he did. What what

640
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: you mean? Some people gotta say, like future, somebody over

641
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: there probably say, yo, drop your nuts, drop the instrumentals,

642
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: drop them on Apple Music, drop the drop everything. Well, man,

643
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: the numbers man, they may not be a good idea

644
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: because now they might not listen to the song because

645
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: the man drop all this. Sometimes we gotta trust the coachure.

646
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: That's my opinion on that. Let's talk about the school

647
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: shooting for those of you underweather was a school shooting

648
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: in Texas. Nineteen kids found dead, two teachers. And as

649
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: much as I get tired of having to report on

650
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: things to happen this way, man, I'm starting to think

651
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: that we have to take our own approach and how

652
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: to handle these matters. I mean, we're literally fresh off

653
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: the game Buffalo, driving hours to hurt people, and then

654
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: we deal with this. I know we're in the media

655
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: driven or political driven atmosphere, so there's gonna be a

656
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Speaker 1: lot of talk around gun laws and things like that

657
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: when we deal with death. The idea that people don't

658
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: have any emotional ties to children being harmed speaks to

659
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: people even being humanized in any way over this up

660
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: their Partcad. We don't want to see children in any

661
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: situation where they have to be hurt, harmed by the mistreated,

662
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: anything like that. And it's important that a black man

663
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: is loud about that because everybody keep king Kkine about

664
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: this the internet. But I know that we leave in

665
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: this for people that will never be involved with so

666
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't play that kind of game. But the children

667
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: are off limits where we come from. Amongst these nineteen kids,

668
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: he killed second, third and fourth graders, barricaded them in

669
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: the room and was able to kill that many very

670
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: interesting situation. I think that there's some factors in this

671
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: that speaks to our understanding of why we don't trust

672
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: whatever system that they tend to put in place, because

673
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: if you ask about some of these systems again, they'll

674
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: bring you data of the interpretation of what they'll do

675
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: when something happens. And then something happens and everything they

676
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: interpretat it goes out the window. And so for me

677
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: and my children, we gotta have our own interpretation, I think.

678
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: But this game, in particular, man was a madman. Let's

679
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: look at this club, Let's look at a little bit

680
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: of it, and we'll come back with some game America.

681
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: Here we are again, this is not a new nightmare.

682
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: It is a recurring one, another mass shooting, this time Texas.

683
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: At least nineteen children murdered, shot dead with a high

684
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: powered rifle. Two teachers also killed, and elementary school turned

685
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: killing field. There are new details this evening, none of

686
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: them good, none of it easier to hear. The best

687
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: we can hope for tonight is for context. In these

688
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: early hours, there is no comfort to be had. ABC's

689
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Speaker 1: Maria Viereale arrived in the scene in Yuvaldi, Texas, shortly

690
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Speaker 1: after the shooting. She joins US tonight byron. This is

691
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: still a very active scene here at the elementary school,

692
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: and it will continue to look like this throughout the

693
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Speaker 1: night and probably even to tomorrow morning as well. We

694
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Speaker 1: understand right now the Texas Rangers are now leading this investigation.

695
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: They brought in a mobile crime scene to help process

696
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: what is happening inside the school. Right now, it was

697
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: too much for local law enforcement to handle the weight

698
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: of the tragedy, too much for their hearts as well.

699
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Speaker 1: Tonight horror and heartbreak in this tiny South Texas community.

700
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Speaker 1: Earlier today, a mass shooting at rob Elementary School and Uvalde, Texas,

701
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Speaker 1: killing at least twenty one people, including nineteen children, the

702
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: deadliest school shooting in nearly a decade and the third

703
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: deadliest in America since Virginia Tech. The size of the

704
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Speaker 1: devastation here, the number of lives lost is very significant.

705
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Speaker 1: Is elementary age kids totally helpless, totally harmless, the shot

706
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: in their own classroom. That image should really burn in

707
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: people's memory as to we shouldn't have to relive Sandy Hook.

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Speaker 1: Officials say the alleged gunman, Salvador Ramos, also shot his

709
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Speaker 1: own grandmother before attacking students at the elementary school. What

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Speaker 1: happened in Uvaldi is a horrific tragedy that cannot be

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Speaker 1: tolerated in the state of Texas. Among those who lost

712
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Speaker 1: their lives ten year old Javier Lopez, who was in

713
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Speaker 1: the fourth grade. His family sharing this photo with us

714
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Speaker 1: this evening. Nineteen students were killed and two teachers, including

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Speaker 1: fourth grade teacher Eva Medeles. School I has children that

716
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: are in second, third and fourth grade. Two responding officers

717
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: were also shot but are expected to survive. Officials say

718
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: the alleged shooter was killed by responding law enforcement. Mister

719
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: Romus the shooter he himself is deceased and is believed

720
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Speaker 1: that responding officers killed him. Fellow Americans. Tonight, President Biden

721
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: speaking to the country, and yet another mass shooting, just

722
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Speaker 1: days after ten people were killed in a grocery store

723
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, New York. I had hoped when I became president,

724
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Speaker 1: I would not have to do this again. Another massacre. Valdi, Texas,

725
00:41:53,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: an elementary school beautiful in the suit second fourth graders.

726
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: The rampage began late this morning. Officials say the alleged

727
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: shooter shot his grandmother, then turned to the school. At

728
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Speaker 1: eleven thirty two am local time. An eighteen year old

729
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: mail who resided in Uvaldi is believed that he abandoned

730
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: his vehicle. There's a car crash outside rob Elementary School.

731
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Speaker 1: The suspect were told as immediately engaged by a Uvaldi

732
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Speaker 1: Independent School District police officer, and that doesn't stop the shooter.

733
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: He's wearing body armor. He shoots the police officer and

734
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: then makes his way inside the school. Multiple state and

735
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: local law enforcement FBI, ATF, and Border patrol racing to respond.

736
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Speaker 1: Sources say authorities have recovered an Aar fifteen style rifle

737
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: and numerous magazines. The school, with some six hundred students,

738
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: locked down, reportedly students crawling through windows to escape, parents

739
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: desperate for any information. We just hear all kinds of

740
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: gunshots flying off like NonStop, like clowns, daily gunshots, and

741
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: the world here all scared. What on the ground, fearing

742
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: for our lives in the Mayhem, Families trying desperately to

743
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: reunite with their loved ones. One father here searching for

744
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: his ten year old daughter. If we could get to

745
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: the funeral home, how would you ask me that? Because

746
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: we can't find my daughter, What does it say about

747
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: where we are right now? I mean this is a

748
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: small town man pretty ahead, really said what this world's

749
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: comped to. We're also learning more about who committed this

750
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: heinous attack. Officials say the alleged killer, eighteen year old

751
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: salvad Or Ramos, was a student at Uvaldi High School.

752
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: He's believed to have acted alone. Law enforcement sources tell

753
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: in ABC News they're investigating possible social media accounts linked

754
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: to the alleged shooter, which include images of guns and

755
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: other violet material. Law enforcement also telling ABC News that

756
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: he reportedly sent videos and photos of guns to users

757
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: on various social media platforms, one user saying that last

758
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: week he showed himself with guns, making statements like wait

759
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: till tomorrow. A law enforcement is collecting every piece of

760
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: information they can get their hands on. A reference to

761
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: social media, friends, associates, families, What did they see? What

762
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: did they hear? My guess, even by now, they've probably

763
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: got a pretty good picture of who he is, what

764
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: motivated him, and how he acquired like this. AAR fifteen

765
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: located eighty miles west of San Antonio. Uvaldi is a

766
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: small town with just over sixteen thousand people living here.

767
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Rob Elementary School has about six hundred students in the second, third,

768
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Speaker 1: and fourth grades. The school's last day was supposed to

769
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: be this third. Say so, those were two clips of

770
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: what we know so far about the shooting. Again on

771
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: the heels of the Buffalo, New York shooting, These things

772
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: are more prevalent in America. If I had to try

773
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: to wrap my mind around it, and I'm no expert

774
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: at this, but if I had to try to wrap

775
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: my mind around it, I know we have a gun issue,

776
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: and it's really an unsolvable issue. In my opinion, I'm

777
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: not any scholar, but if I look at it, I

778
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: understand that the amount of guns that are in America.

779
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: It's unsustainable. There's no buyback program that you can do.

780
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: What happens is if they want the guns in America,

781
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: they gotta go take them. And if they go take them,

782
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: that's a slippery slope because now they invade on rights

783
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: that it can get slippery. But before we deal with

784
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: gun laws and things, let's talk a little bit about

785
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: the guy who's responsible for the massacre du eighteen years old,

786
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: when he got to AAR fifteens or a K forty

787
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: sevens and went into an elementary school. Reports were coming

788
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: out that he was bullying in school about his clothes.

789
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: And I have some thoughts about that, you know, just

790
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: about as I raised young boys in this world who

791
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: may or may not end up more privileged than someone else.

792
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: How do I raise them in a way where they

793
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: don't laugh at things that's unusual to him. That's a

794
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: whole different conversation. But this young man here, or this

795
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: piece of here, didn't go to the school where he

796
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: was allegedly picked on. He went to an elementary school.

797
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: That's gut wrenching. Also, reports came out saying that yo,

798
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: he was not bullet he was just trying to be

799
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: a bullying. Nobody respect this bullying, so he wanted to

800
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: be heard. Therefore, he did something that would scream as

801
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: loud as he could to the world. I tend to

802
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: end this up their podcast not say the names of

803
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: these shooters because I think it's unimportant. I do like

804
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: to talk about it because I think his information involved

805
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: in what culture we live in and how society is

806
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: moving around our children. This dude shot his grandmother in

807
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: the face. She survived, but at the time he didn't know.

808
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna show you guys the inside of the

809
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: house he left her in. But he shot his grandmother first.

810
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: Usually that's what they do because they know that whatever

811
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: mother or whoever they have there probably alert people that

812
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: they just left the house man with guns. So he

813
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: shot her. She survived, and he headed over to the school.

814
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Why he picked this school not sure. I do agree

815
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: that there's a conversation to be head around mental health

816
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: in this country, even more around black men's mental health.

817
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: But I believe that there's a large conversation to be had,

818
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: and now it's a lot of interesting things happening in

819
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: this situation. We're gonna deal with the police interaction and

820
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: involvement in this text is shooting. We're gonna examine this

821
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: and speak to our lack of faith and why the

822
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: system doesn't protect us. It only provides punishment to us.

823
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: So the current structure involved has no issue with executing

824
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: a search one and picking young thug up in a

825
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: way what he is neutralized, But they cannot find a

826
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: way to neutralize an active shooter. For me, that speaks

827
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: to the preparation. To me, it seems like we're not

828
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: dealing with people that interested in anything outside of drug

829
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: dealing and what they consider to be a game. But

830
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: that's another conversation. Let's look at this police report. According

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00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: to situations, police engaged him. Now why they used engaged,

832
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, but for lack of better term, police

833
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: ran in the due and he shot one of them.

834
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: He then spent forty minutes inside of building with people's children,

835
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: executing children. Let's listen to a little bit of what

836
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: the police chief or one of the police representatives said

837
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: about how they handled it, and then we'll come back

838
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: with some information about how we feel about police and

839
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: the involvement in this situation and others. The ditch's previously described.

840
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: The teacher runs to the room one thirty two to

841
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: retrieve a phone, and that same teacher walks back to

842
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: the extra door and door remains propped open. Were two males.

843
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: As reported by regional director Escoal on yesterday, there were

844
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Speaker 1: two males at a funeral home that when he heard

845
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: the crash, they went to the crash scene. When they

846
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: arrived at the crash scene, before they got there, they

847
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: saw a man with a gun exit the passengers side

848
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: with a backpack. They immediately began running, were almost began

849
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: shooting at him, did not hit him. One of the

850
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: males fell when he was running. Both males retorted the

851
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: funeral home while they're running, and then again we see

852
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: through video teacher re emerges inside the school and panic

853
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: and apparently calls nine one one, nine one one call

854
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: at eleven thirty, but there was a crash man with

855
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: a gun. Eleven thirty one, the suspect reaches last row

856
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: of vehicles to the school parking lot and thirty one

857
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: the suspect of shooting began at the school while patrol

858
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: vehicles got to the funeral home. I'll point out where

859
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: it is crash vehicles over here. Suspect lighting mine of

860
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: vehicle started walking down and shooting into classroom. There's a

861
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: discussion early on ID Consolidated i SD where you Baldi

862
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: had officer was a resource officer and had confronted the

863
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: subset that did not happen as rd ESQ alone talked

864
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: about yesterday. It certainly stated in preliminary interviews, but often

865
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: these preliminary interviews and a cursory walked through doesn't reveal

866
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: the type of information and certainly police officers, like anyone else,

867
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: under spress, sometimes witnesses get it wrong. But the bottom

868
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: line is that officer was not on scene, not on campus,

869
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: but had heard the ninety one one call with a

870
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: man with a gun, drove immediately to the area, sped

871
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: to what he thought was the man with a gun

872
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: to the back of the school, were turned out to

873
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: be a teacher and not the suspect. In doing so,

874
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: he drove right by the suspect who was hunkered down

875
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: behind a vehicle where he began shooting at the school

876
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: thirty one. The suspect shooting in between the vehicle is

877
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: when it began. While the troll vehicle gets to the

878
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: funeral home, multiple shots are fired outside the school at

879
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: eleven thirty one patrol car acceleration of the parking lot

880
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: rise by the shooter. That's exactly what I was talking about.

881
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: It was the ID officer at that time. He passes

882
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: and then leaves the camera view. There's multiple shots fired

883
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: at the school at eleven thirty two, at eleven thirty two,

884
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: twenty seven, eleven thirty two, thirty six. At eleven thirty

885
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: three is when the suspect entered the school. At the

886
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: door that I'm pointing to now eleven thirty three, the

887
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: suspect begins shooting into room one eleven or one twelve.

888
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: It's not possible to determine from the video angle that

889
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: we have at this point in time. We do know

890
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: this that he shot more than one hundred rounds based

891
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: on the audio evidence at that time, at least one

892
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: hundred rounds entered. At eleven thirty three or eleven thirty three,

893
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: he started shooting in the classrooms one eleven and one

894
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: twelve and eleven thirty five. Three police officers entered the

895
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 1: same door as suspect entered. All three of those police

896
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: officers worked with the Uvaldy Police Department. They were later

897
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: followed by another four A team of Uvaldy police officers

898
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: three and also a county sheriff County deputy sheriff, so

899
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: a total of seven officers were on the scene. The

900
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: three initial police officers arrived went directly to the door

901
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: and two received grazing wounds at that time from the suspect.

902
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: While the door was closed. Eleven thirty seven, there was

903
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: more gunfire. Another sixteen rounds was fired to eleven thirty seven,

904
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: one eleven thirty seven, and sixteen seven, eleven thirty eight,

905
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: eleven forty, eleven forty four. At eleven fifty one, a

906
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: police sergeant and USB agent started to arrive. At twelve

907
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: o three officers continue to arrive in the hallway and

908
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: there were as many as nineteen officers at that time

909
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: in that hallway. At twelve fifteen, we know that board

910
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: Tack members arrive, not the entire Boar attack, but members

911
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: of Boar Attack along with shields. At twelve twenty one,

912
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: the suspect fired again was believed to be at the door.

913
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: Eleven twenty one, law enforcement moved down the hallway. At

914
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: eleven fifty they've reached the door using keys that they're

915
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: able to get from the janitor. Because both doors were locked,

916
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 1: though both of the classrooms that he shot into were

917
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: locked when officers arrived. They killed the suspect at that time.

918
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: And now I'd like to go over the nine one

919
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: one time one h. Warren is not It's better than

920
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: I read it than you listen to it. They called

921
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: her identified. I'll not say her name, but she was

922
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: in room one twelve called one one one to twelve

923
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: O three. The duration of the call was one minute

924
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: twenty three seconds. She identified herself and whispered, she's in

925
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: room one twelve. At twelve ten, she called back in

926
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: room twelve. Advisor multiple dead. Twelve thirteen again, she called

927
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: on the phone again. At twelve sixteen, she's called back

928
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: and said there was eight to nine students alive. At

929
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: twelve nineteen, one call was made and another person in

930
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: room one eleven called and will not say her name.

931
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: She hung up when another student told her to hung up.

932
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: At twelve twenty one, you could hear was the nine

933
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: one one call for three shots were fired. At twelve

934
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: thirty six, nine one one called. It lasted for twenty

935
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: one seconds. The initial caller called back, student child called back.

936
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: I was told to stay on the line and be

937
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: very quiet. She told nine to one that he shot

938
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: the door at approxily twelve forty three. In twelve forty seven,

939
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: she asked nine one one to police, send the police

940
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: now at twelve forty six. She said she couldnot that

941
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: she could hear the police next door. At twelve fifty

942
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: shots or fire that could be heard with the nine

943
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: one call, and at twelve fifty one is very loud

944
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: and sounds like the officers are moving children out of

945
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: the room. At that time, the first chill that called

946
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: was outside before the call cuts off. In digital information

947
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: that we have is that there are fifty eight total

948
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: magazines at the school related the crime scene. Eleven those

949
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: magazines were inside the school, Three were on the suspects body,

950
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: two in room one, twelve six in side room eleven,

951
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: five were on the ground, one was in the rifle.

952
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: There were thirty two magazines outside the school but on

953
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: school property, one just outside the school building, and thirty

954
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: one and the suspects backpack that he did not take

955
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: into the classrooms with him. There's fifteen magazines at the

956
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: crash site. There are two magazines at the suspects residents,

957
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: for a total of sixty magazines. He had purchased and

958
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: had a total of one thousand and six D fifty

959
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: seven total rounds of ammunition. Three fifty three hundred and

960
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: fifty of those rounds were inside the school, one hundred

961
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: and forty two where those were spent cartridges, one hundred

962
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: and seventy three were live rounds. Nine hundred and twenty

963
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: two were outside of the school but on school property.

964
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: Twenty two of those were spent cartridges. Nine hundred were

965
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: live rounds. Four and twenty two were at the crash site.

966
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: Twenty two were spent cartridges. One to twenty those were

967
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: live rounds. There's thirty five spent law enforcement cartridge total

968
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: in the school. Eight of those were in the hallway,

969
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: twenty seven were inside the classroom. One to eleven or

970
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: the suspect was killed. I had mentioned that we're going

971
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: to go over quickly a digital timeline where links we

972
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: talked about early and I want to correct something that

973
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: was said early on in the investigation is that he

974
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: posted okay on Facebook publicly that he was going to

975
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: kill it, he's going to shoot his grandmother, and secondly

976
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: after that that he was going to that he had

977
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: shot her, and then third that he was going to

978
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: go shoot up a school that did not happen. It

979
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: was actually on a message was a Facebook application messenger

980
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: application to somebody else that he had a conversation with.

981
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: We know that through his digital lead to a footprint

982
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: and I'll just go it by a I'll just do

983
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: it by daytime that Ramos asked his sister to help

984
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: him buy a gun. She flatly refused. That was in

985
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: September twenty one. He made I'll avoid some of these

986
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: and get to them. He had Instagram of four group

987
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: chat and it was discussed at Ramos being a school shooter.

988
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: That was on February twenty eighth, twenty twenty two. On

989
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: March first, twenty twenty two, there was an Instagram he

990
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: had with four people. There was a chat he discussed

991
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: him buying a gun. On March third, twenty twenty two,

992
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: there was another four person chat quotations word on the

993
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: street as you were buying a gun? Ramos replied, just

994
01:00:48,880 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: bought something or in On March fourteenth, and there's Instagram

995
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: posting by the subject in quotations ten more days, the

996
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: user replied, are you going to shoot up school or something?

997
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: The subject replied no, and stop asking dumb questions. And

998
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: you'll see I know you have many questions and have

999
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: agreed to stay as long as we can answers me

1000
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: those questions that we can. If I can't answer it,

1001
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: because we don't know definitely right now, I'll simply say that.

1002
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: And it continues to be a pliminary investigation ors you

1003
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: know literally, you know, certainly over hundreds of interviews that

1004
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 1: have been conducted will continue to be conducted, and there's

1005
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: thousands of leagues that have been pursued, not not consecutively,

1006
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: but concurrently, and thanks to our federal and local partners,

1007
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: and do what I mentioned behind me, we've got the

1008
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: f guy Special Agents in charge. We also have an

1009
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: ATF's Special Agent charge or a SAC and of course

1010
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: else what I got behind Okay, Texas Rangers. If there's

1011
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: any specifics that I haven't covered that I might need

1012
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: their particular support on. I do want to cover one

1013
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: thing quickly though, before I go to questions, and that's

1014
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: some of the questions that we received that we have

1015
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: already received, and one of those is going around now

1016
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: that there's that in fact, the subject had been one

1017
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: of the two arrested by the Texas Rangers in the

1018
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: local police back in twenty eighteen. That's not the case.

1019
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: He was not one of the individuals. In fact, we

1020
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: have found no links, association relationships, and that investigation clearly

1021
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: was a threat. It was back in twenty eighteen the

1022
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: two juveniles were charged. Was attempted or conspiracy to commit

1023
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: capital murder. There's no question that we thought, and we

1024
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: had evidence and certainly a district attorney agreed that these

1025
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: juveniles one thirteen, one, fourteen years old was a threat

1026
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: to Uivaldi, and there was a discussion at that time

1027
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: even the senior year of the one that was fourteen

1028
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: years old, which would make it twenty twenty two. However,

1029
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: it was not the subject questions answers. Okay, well, yeah, yeah.

1030
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: One thing I want to say, one thing I failed

1031
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: to say is that when we're done, we have twenty

1032
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: pie with us. He's going to translate into Spanish. Okay,

1033
01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: what the answers and the questions are afterwards? He just

1034
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: said that, Michael, thank you for doing this. And I

1035
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: knew hold stay question possible. You say there were nine

1036
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: officers got in the hallway or somewhere, what efforts were

1037
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: made to try and waiting through that door he said,

1038
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: was fought. What effice when the officers making to try

1039
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: and bringing either down door or another door get inside

1040
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: that closter none at that time? Why why the unseen

1041
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: commander at the time, I believe that it had transitioned

1042
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: from an active shooter to a barricaded subject. Sir, people

1043
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: children were want one say please set them please, they

1044
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: are all he's got closter. There are lives that are

1045
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: at place. We're well, we're well aware of that. Why

1046
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: did recision me and rest child? Again? You know the

1047
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: unseen commander considered a barricaded subject and that there was

1048
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: time and there were no child more children at risk

1049
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: obviously obviously you know, based upon the information we have

1050
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: there were children in that classroom that we're apt riz

1051
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: and it was in fact still an acting shooter situation

1052
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: and not a barricaded subject. All that kind of understanding,

1053
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: non blood vault right and taken at forty minutes to recumation. Sorry,

1054
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: I had times night right, and you probably have dispatchers

1055
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: playing information officers on the scene telling them hating their

1056
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: art in that class still need to stop the question

1057
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: simply is this, it was forty minute gap and if

1058
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: the nine one one operators were aware that the children

1059
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: were alive in that classroom. Why weren't officers notified of that?

1060
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, why didn't that he take action?

1061
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: That's the question, And again me, I'll go back to

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01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: the answer for right now is that that it was considered. Okay,

1063
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: the decision was made on the scene. I wasn't there,

1064
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: but the same point in time, you know, a decision

1065
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: was made that this is a barricaded subject situation. There

1066
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: was time to retrieve the keys and wait for a

1067
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: tactical team with the equipment to go ahead and reach

1068
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: the door and take on the subject. At that point,

1069
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: that was the decision, That was the thought process that

1070
01:06:52,400 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: particular point in time, what parents to go in? And

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: there was nineteen Like I said, there was nineteen officers

1072
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: in there. In fact, there's plenty of officers to do

1073
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: whatever needed to be done with one exception is that

1074
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: the the incident commander inside believe they needed more equipment

1075
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: and more officers to do a tactical breach at that point,

1076
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: and that's why board tech was requested on the scene.

1077
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: As soon as they were there, they executed a search

1078
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: or at least a dynamic entry and went in and uh,

1079
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: of course that was not until twelve. That was out

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01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: the quiet seven. Hey with a Hey, with a Hey,

1081
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: with the benefit of Hey, with the benefit of hindsight, Hey,

1082
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,479
Speaker 1: the benefit of Hey, stand by, stand by, Hey, stand by, Hey,

1083
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 1: stand by it. Right, I've got it. I've got got it. Okay, Hey,

1084
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: from the from the benefit of hindsight where I'm sitting now,

1085
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: of course, it was not the right decision. It was

1086
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: the wrong decision period. There's no no excuse for that.

1087
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: But again, I wasn't there. But I'm just telling you

1088
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: from what we know, we believe there should have been

1089
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: an entry at that as soon as you can. Hey,

1090
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: when there's an active shooter that the rules change. It's

1091
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: no longer okay, it's no longer barricaded sulf. If you

1092
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: don't have time, you don't worry about matter premiers. And

1093
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: by the way, textis embraces active shooter training, active shooter certification,

1094
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: and that that doct that doctrine requires officers. We don't

1095
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: care what agency you're from. You don't have to have

1096
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: a leader on the scene. Every officer lines up, stacks up,

1097
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: goes and finds where those rounds are being fired at

1098
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: and keeps shooting until the subject is dead period. Who

1099
01:08:49,240 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: order very different understand relationship or over over. I don't

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 1: mean one day question. I mean again people kid finding

1101
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 1: well after the last he used the debit card first,

1102
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: but your point, it's very expensive and a debit cards

1103
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: not a credit card. It means he had money in

1104
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: the bank. So why and how is being looked at

1105
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: right now? And I'll tell you this, hundreds of more,

1106
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: thousands of more leads are being looked at right now

1107
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: because we haven't answered all the questions. We haven't gotten

1108
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: into the wye. Okay, we know the individual was also

1109
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: into cybergaming in that regard and group gaming in that

1110
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: So we've got a lot of a lot of questions

1111
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: are out there. We're seeking answers, but we've got an

1112
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: obligation will continue to update you when we find something.

1113
01:09:54,240 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: Eltheeling I had to questions. The first one he said

1114
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: that batter Patrol had the official team on site and

1115
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: that the Book of Beliefs did not allow them to

1116
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 1: go into the building. Can you allow wall agents and

1117
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: ortach agents that were in the building didn't line up there?

1118
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: Part of the nineteen that I talked about, and the

1119
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: entry team ultimately the entry team that went in. But

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: I can tell you that they were told just as

1121
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: like as any other officer was told and others, even

1122
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: command staff that came on board. Is that that the

1123
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: instant commander at the time, was it believed in the

1124
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: you know that that in fact it was a barricaded

1125
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: subject that we had time there was no kids at risk,

1126
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: chat talked about having a chat and from chats and

1127
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 1: talking to people. Why wasn't nobody I wish it was.

1128
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: I wish it wasn't because then there's no question. And

1129
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: I'll say this right now, but every time we have

1130
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 1: one of these and there's copycats, okay, and the we

1131
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 1: need the public just like we did back in twenty eighteen.

1132
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: That was a public Okay. They came forward that we

1133
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: got two people that are about to shoot up a

1134
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: school or planned to shoot at school's paradol in the public.

1135
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: When you get something just because it just because it

1136
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: sounds like he's a nut. He may be a nut,

1137
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: but he just because it sounds like well possible to do,

1138
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: he may be intended to do. As I read the

1139
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: the timeline based upon the chastity had So you know,

1140
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: we need we need everyone when we have a threat

1141
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: to life like that, to take it seriously and report

1142
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: it because ultimately, this is trap, This is tragic. What

1143
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: do you tell the nineteen the parents of nineteen kids,

1144
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: or the families of two two teachers. Okay, Morgan chessd

1145
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: NBC News. You wanted to wait for tactical gear. By

1146
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen, you had at least fifteen officers and shields

1147
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: on scene, yet you did not reach the door until

1148
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: twelve fifty. And I've said it before, is that well,

1149
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: first of all, when it comes to an active shooter,

1150
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: is you don't have way tactical gear played a simple

1151
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: you got an oplication. What I know now, Okay, absolutely,

1152
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: as you hear them try to explain why they didn't

1153
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: go inside and help children them children are helpless in

1154
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: that situation. It's unfortunate that law enforcement, to people that's

1155
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: put there to protect, failed to do so. With everything

1156
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: on the line, at some point, your plans got to

1157
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: go out the window. Number one. Number two, words are

1158
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: important and understanding those words are important. So we'll deal

1159
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: with a little bit of what he said first. I

1160
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: want to instantly deal with him saying that the reason

1161
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: they didn't into the building. It's because the situation went

1162
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: from an active shooter to a barricaded subject. And while

1163
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: I know that's in the handbooks somewhere uneasy for them

1164
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 1: to pick at and pick two the saying it sounds

1165
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: like a well put together phrase, I find flaw in it,

1166
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: and the flower I find then it is that you

1167
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: were dealing in that time with both those circumstances. So

1168
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 1: we do agree that the circumstances did evolve, but just

1169
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: not in the same way. You think that it went

1170
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: from an active shooter to a barricaded subject. I think

1171
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 1: it went from an active shooter to an active shooter

1172
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: with a barricaded subject. So the active shooter part didn't

1173
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: go away because he was still killing children. So that's

1174
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: number one. Number two the question I have is the

1175
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: lady that left the door open. I noticed they don't

1176
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 1: say the name. I wonder what she wanted the people

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: that ended up getting shot or did she get away?

1178
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: Did she leave the door open and get away? That's

1179
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: something I would like to know. And they don't love

1180
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: your kids like you love your kids. They don't love

1181
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: your kids like we love our kids. As you couldn't

1182
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: you couldn't stop one of those mothers they had to

1183
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: try to arrest because you couldn't stop her from trying

1184
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: to get in there, even if it means her life.

1185
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: But they don't love your kids like like like you

1186
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: love your kids. That's why whatever laws they put in place,

1187
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: it don't apply to the people that they don't apply to.

1188
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: And you couldn't highlight more that they don't love your

1189
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: kids like they love like you love your kids. When

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 1: you see everyone being told not to enter the building

1191
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: to save their own children, but offers us being led

1192
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: in the building to save their children, anyone in their

1193
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: right mind wants to go in and try to get

1194
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: their children, even if it means them dying in the process.

1195
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: You're dealing with some children. These children are helpless. One

1196
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: of them was pretty savvy and she's gonna have to

1197
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: deal with a high level of of trauma for the

1198
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: rest of her life. But she put blood on herself

1199
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: and just played dead the entire time. They were calling

1200
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: the police because they trust the police. They've been told

1201
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: if something happened, called the police. If such and such,

1202
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 1: call the police. If this isn't that, call to police.

1203
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: They've been told to trust the police. It was even

1204
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: said that they were told to make noise as they

1205
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: tried to identify what they were in the building. So

1206
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: they will make noise and it will cost someone their

1207
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: life each time because he would him making noise if

1208
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: the dude is shooting, How did we take active shooter

1209
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 1: off of this? It kind of shows that the system

1210
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: in totality is just flawed because they arguing the Senate

1211
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: and the Congress about these laws and about this and that,

1212
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they have He just spoke to the

1213
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: doctor and what's in place, and all that was in place,

1214
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: and it still couldn't save children. It still could put

1215
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: you in a position to minimize the destruction with all

1216
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: that you have in place. They said, people were their

1217
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: police officers with their swade tactical teams with tactical gearing shields,

1218
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: and they're dealing with one eighteen year old guy with

1219
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: nineteen officers and they chose not to go in. They

1220
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: were there for eighty minutes. What we're dealing with, ladies

1221
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, is a system that is not in place

1222
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: for protection. It's in place for prosecution. And when we

1223
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 1: talk about our loved ones, we want to deal with

1224
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: protecting our loved ones. And now all they want to

1225
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: do is prosecute them. They show up with nineteen officers

1226
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: and they can't get in there. But they show up

1227
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: in a way to pick young thug up to neutralize him.

1228
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: And he's supposed to be some high powerful guy, but

1229
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: he ain't shooting nobody when they show up. But they

1230
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: show up to a school, what children are dying, and

1231
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: they got reservations on entering the building. I find it

1232
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: funny that they say they show up to an active

1233
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: shooter situation and because they're engaged with gunfire, it makes

1234
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: them hold off before they enter. I have a question

1235
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: for you, when you show up to a gun battle?

1236
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: What you expect to get? When you show up to

1237
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: a gun battle, you're gonna get gunfire, mister officer. This

1238
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: is why you got your gear and your bulletproof and

1239
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: your gun and this and that the idea that you

1240
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: show up to an active shooter situation not expecting to

1241
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: be engaged by gunfire. I mean, what do you expect

1242
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 1: to get when you show up to a gunfight a squabble?

1243
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 1: Did they think they were showing up for a squabble

1244
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: and they say it's gunfire? Be I don't be understanding

1245
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: what they're saying. But I want people to understand why

1246
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: we had literally no faith in the system, because if

1247
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: they need to arrest me for some sort of crime

1248
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 1: I committed, they'll do that in a way that's effective

1249
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:11,759
Speaker 1: and neutralizes everything. But involved themselves and someone actively shooting

1250
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: in the school, and it seems like we're dealing with

1251
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: a low level operation. The idea that they were out

1252
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: there taisering or about to taser and arresting, and they

1253
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: were putting more emphasis on not letting people go in

1254
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: and get their children, and then then they were on

1255
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: going in and helping the children. I just wish someone

1256
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: on that side and explain to me why they went

1257
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: in and got their children. Know what, they don't have

1258
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: to explain that to me. I understand why they even't

1259
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: go in and let other people get their children or

1260
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: help people get their children. I would understand even if

1261
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: they said no one was there nineteen officers in the

1262
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: hallway and no one figures out main't what they're talking

1263
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: about kids is dying. We're gonna hold off on the

1264
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: orders that tough to what we'll let kids die. And

1265
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm post to trust that y'all show me what y'all do.

1266
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: When y'all get slightly confused, y'all are bag up for

1267
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: motherfuck confuse them any little bit. They bag all the

1268
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: way up, accepting when they're in the ghetto. If they

1269
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: get confused in the ghetto, they just start shooting, kill

1270
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: everybody if they confuse us. Eighty minutes at least forty

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01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: minutes on site with police. Even the fids were told

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: not to go in. They made a decision at the

1273
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: thirty minutes that we're going in. We gotta kill his

1274
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: dude and killing children like it needs to be. You know,

1275
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't understand, man, Like we live in the hell

1276
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 1: of a country. We live in a time where you

1277
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: gotta find your way. Man. What I think the next

1278
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: step of this is, and I'll be honest with y'all,

1279
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: what I think is gonna happen in the future is

1280
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: the will to do and the rich are gonna start

1281
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: start to send that kid to school with security. It's

1282
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna start to be like the yeasy, It's like, oh,

1283
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: John got that level on security. You know you gotta

1284
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: seen your kids in school with the level three s.

1285
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling my private security it's gonna be a regular thing.

1286
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: I think it will become a luxury of some sort

1287
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: because I don't see any laws being passed because they

1288
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: have to fight against the NRA and they ain't budging,

1289
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: and they have influenced on the political figures that's currently

1290
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,440
Speaker 1: in position. So they're gonna have trouble with that unless

1291
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: they spend money on making doors bulletproof and this and

1292
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: that at schools, you know, I'm not sure, but or

1293
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: putting the army at schools, I don't know. I don't

1294
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do that. What I think's gonna happen

1295
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: is is the will to do and the rich You're

1296
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: gonna start sending that kid to school with security. And

1297
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: then someone me probably or someone else will be able

1298
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: to create a company starts to provide luxury security for

1299
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: your child at school, and he won't be right up

1300
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: on your child, but he kind of be there all day,

1301
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: kind of outside the building maybe, you know, just kind

1302
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: of on, you know, and just watching out for your kid,

1303
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, And it's gonna be it's gonna be a

1304
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: luxury of sort. I really believe that. The more I

1305
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: think about this shooting, the more I think about what

1306
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: happened and how the police failed to into the building

1307
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: in a way that was effective for those children inside,

1308
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: and we can't help but to think that because of

1309
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: them taking that approach, more children were killed. And so

1310
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, I left from yesterday record and I'm like, yo, man,

1311
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: step out. How let my children like yo man, I

1312
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: was just thinking about that shooting again. And they young,

1313
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: so they really don't understand what I'm saying, you know,

1314
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: so I'm putting them down, like, yo man, it was

1315
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: a bad situation, like nineteen of nineteen kids. And one

1316
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 1: of my kids, he's passed that grace. So I'm like,

1317
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: you're even older than the kids that they've done that

1318
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: to him. My other child is in the fourth grade.

1319
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, they were your age. And so again

1320
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: they're not really understanding exactly what I'm saying, but I

1321
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: need them to understand that I had these conversations with

1322
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: them on the come up, and of course I'm gonna

1323
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: stay there with him next to him, giving them game.

1324
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: But what was interesting is that I'm telling them they

1325
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: calling the police and it's just like dialing a number

1326
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: because the police are already there, but they're just not

1327
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: doing anything. I pointed out that they cited that yo

1328
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: the situation changed from an active shooter to a barricaded subject.

1329
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I say the situation evolved from

1330
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: an active shooter to an active shooter with a barricaded subject.

1331
01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: The active shooter part never subsided. So for me, you know,

1332
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: the children reaching out to the police, but the police

1333
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: is are already there. They just ain't doing nothing. Now,

1334
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: kids are taught to trust the police. The police are

1335
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: posted coming help, and a lot of times they do.

1336
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: A lot of times they show up and they put

1337
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: a fire out, or they may are able to get

1338
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: someone out of a car and things like that. But

1339
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: when we deal with violence, response time is very, very important.

1340
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: And so I'm trying to explain to him and my yo,

1341
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: it's the one that's in fourth grade. He was like,

1342
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: not at my school. I'm like nine nine, not at

1343
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: chold school, man, you know, And I'm interested in what

1344
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna say after that, And he said, not in

1345
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: my school, because if it was in my school, I

1346
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: would have run upon the police or the security how

1347
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: to grab they taser and then how to try to

1348
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: run out the school. If I'd have seen somebody, I'd

1349
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 1: have chased them. I had to give him some game

1350
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: that's the wrong approach that work on Fortnite. I see

1351
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: where you're going with it. But it even made me

1352
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: realize the mindset of the children that he was in

1353
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: there dealing with the level of cowardness that it took

1354
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,560
Speaker 1: for him to do that in the first place, but

1355
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: to compound that to not go to the school where

1356
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: you were quote unquote bully that and go to an

1357
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: elementary school. It was just I couldn't understand it. So

1358
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: I left talking about it, like what could make him

1359
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: do that? Then I got to thinking the only thing,

1360
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: and of course my mind isn't wrapped in a way

1361
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 1: why I can't understand someone doing something like that. But

1362
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: for the sake of again, I try to deal with

1363
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: information on this up there podcast rather than just selacious

1364
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: headlines and things like that. So when I try to

1365
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 1: evaluate what will make him go to an elementary school,

1366
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: the only thing I can come up with is he

1367
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: went back to where it started for him. If there

1368
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: was a bullying thing happening, then, you know, I asked nobody,

1369
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: I say, yo, why I asked my old lady. I said, yo,

1370
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: why would he go to that school if he didn't

1371
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 1: attend that school? And then we came up with maybe

1372
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: it was that age. Maybe it was that age when

1373
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: he started to feel rejected or not here. I really

1374
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 1: don't know. It's just a lot. It's a lot to

1375
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: think about when you start to dive into light. What

1376
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: to make a dude go get a gun like that

1377
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: and go harm children? Listen, Say what you will about gangs,

1378
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: thug you know, young thug or a big meet or

1379
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: whoever you want, boots alone or whoever you want to

1380
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: talk about, or whatever background they may come from them.

1381
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: Ain't no kids dying on the get old hand, Say

1382
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: whatever you would say if it was the Crypts or

1383
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: the Bloods or some gang or some record label or

1384
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: nick out there and kids was being harmed inside the

1385
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: building they was going in, but the police stood out there.

1386
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: So a lot of things have been in the ghetto,

1387
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: especially with the eyes not watching right. We know we

1388
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: deal with a high level of unwarranted touching in the

1389
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: ghetto too. There's something to be spoke about about the

1390
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: women that's been involved with molestation and things like that.

1391
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: And so I don't want to act like that we

1392
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: don't have any issue, but in regards to outwardly us

1393
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: knowing that our children are dying inside of a school

1394
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: like that, and it's a bunch of because out there

1395
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: with firearms and shields, and I don't let they're going

1396
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: in And for me, man, especially mothers like I just

1397
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: couldn't understand, like how do you go in get your

1398
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 1: children and then leave these other children in there? I

1399
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: don't even blame you for going to get your children.

1400
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: I blame you for not getting the other children. You understand,

1401
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about, like how can you leave other children

1402
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: and they really sleep at night? And that being very

1403
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: secretive about names of people who've done some of these things,

1404
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm confused. There's a lot to be looked at,

1405
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: and we definitely continue to look into it. Hey, let

1406
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: me speak on this too really quick, because I did

1407
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: see a lot of retweets and because again I'm going

1408
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: viral on TikTok YouTube and doing very well on Instagram.

1409
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody around of applause for everybody

1410
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: that ever shares does anything involving myself. It's doing numbers man, right.

1411
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: So I posted something last week about when my homeboys

1412
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: come talk to me about how they feeling. A couple

1413
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: of my homes came in spoke to me about how

1414
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: they feeling, and I was speaking about Yo, it's the

1415
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: reason they send a sniper by itself, you know, hyper

1416
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: focus on a mission. I don't need too many people

1417
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: around him to get the job done. These was my

1418
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: exact words. Again, I get paid for talking. I think

1419
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: a lot of the critics because they don't get paid

1420
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: to be critics, they don't have a certain level of

1421
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: attention to detail that I have when I'm speaking when

1422
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: they're listening. And so we'll get to that. But before

1423
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I moved there, I want to say this about our

1424
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: coach and not being in a position to amplify each

1425
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: other's voices or springboard anyone in our coach. I always

1426
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: say it's embarrassing. Earlier in the show, I spoke about

1427
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 1: the no retweeting, and you've heard me echo, and you

1428
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: heard Charlomagne, Joe Budding, certain people echo that. In our culture,

1429
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: we have a certain misunderstanding about what needs to happen,

1430
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: and so we're operating in a way where we're making

1431
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: each other our competition when we need to understand our

1432
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: culture is battling for the market share, and so our

1433
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: minds are made up that Loan is the competition instead

1434
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: of me and Loan get together and we need to

1435
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: get a show that's trying to get up there, Rogan

1436
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: and so as you hear speak about it, my catchphrase

1437
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: on it is always the coaches for selling their out

1438
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: pricing black people. A lot of times they don't even

1439
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: give black people an opportunity to compete in the market. Again,

1440
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 1: if there's a price tag on something, allow us an

1441
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to meet that price tag to get that exclusive,

1442
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: especially if we play that game. Loan, I choose not

1443
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: to play that game. I choose to make my coins

1444
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 1: off of being able to have relevant conversations in the coaches.

1445
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: So it's a different thing than I'm doing. I'm not

1446
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: sure if I said this earlier, but I heard some

1447
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: people say you can outgrow hip hop and so therefore

1448
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 1: you want to spin off and do your David Letterman's

1449
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: and things like that, and I disagree with that wholeheartedly.

1450
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 1: My stance on that is and forever will be, it's

1451
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 1: that if we're playing the game that they want to play,

1452
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: and we start to marginalize ourselves as hip hop or

1453
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 1: black or music podcasts and things like that, we put

1454
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: ourselves in a cage. We want to be free birds

1455
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: because free birds have the ability to hunt, and so

1456
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: as long as we're in a situation where we're in

1457
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: that cage, we don't really get a peek at the

1458
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: real market share. We get a piece of a subsection

1459
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: of the sub section. Although our section influences culture a

1460
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: lot of times you hear on some of these top podcasts,

1461
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 1: at least I do, because I pay attention where they're

1462
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: talking about culture moments that come from our side, but

1463
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: they're talking about it from their perspective with the limited

1464
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: understanding that they have. Right, So again, that ain't all

1465
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 1: they're talking about. But the ability for that to be

1466
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: content says something. The ability for it to transition over

1467
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: to those people who are not looking for it in

1468
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: any way says something. But I don't think there's a

1469
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: situation where you can outgrow hip hop, or where you

1470
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: should outgrow hip hop, or where you should even view

1471
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: it in that way. My thinking is that you evolve

1472
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 1: with hip hop. So if you want to, if you

1473
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: want it to look a certain weight, let's provide the

1474
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: look that we're looking for, and let's put the budget

1475
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: behind it that you think they got behind it. A

1476
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: lot of times you can trick these people with the set.

1477
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: As long as you put a lot of money in

1478
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: the set, they'll believe that it's a big production. Ma

1479
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: ain't got no money in mark and it. Ma ain't

1480
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 1: got no money in nothing else but to set. As

1481
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: long as the set look good, they think that that's

1482
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: a goal. So again understanding what's moving and what ain't moving.

1483
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to, you know, make one more

1484
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: swing at that, you know, just understanding that, like, don't

1485
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: outgrow us, you know, don't outgrow hip hop. How are

1486
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 1: you gonna outgrow your people? You know what I'm saying,

1487
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: like in regards to the roots, or you may not

1488
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: indulge in the same way, but you come from this tree.

1489
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 1: Continue to water the soil. I'm telling you for show,

1490
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: ask old j ass All mas Cosby. They're sending you

1491
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: back to when you get through, when they break y'all

1492
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: way down, they send you back to the n and

1493
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten is forgiving. So they allowed,

1494
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: do you know, they're accept you back? And so I

1495
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: just wanted to make that point. Now, let me clear

1496
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: this up again. Last week I said something about being

1497
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: hyper focused, and there was a larger message in that

1498
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: for my fans and the people that support me. I

1499
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: know y'all got the message, but there's people who are

1500
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: online who see my clips and they can't wait to

1501
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: identify an imperfect individual. I want to be clear to

1502
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: those people that I lead as imperfect. I lead as

1503
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: being in bluetooth mold in which I'm trying to discover things.

1504
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm never in an arrogant state, although I'm braggadocious, although

1505
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 1: I have to prioritize how I insert entertainment into the

1506
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:15,560
Speaker 1: podcast and have that run concurrent with information. So sometimes

1507
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: they deal with the theatrics of me doing this and

1508
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: saying that, and they're involved with the limited understanding that

1509
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: they have or who I am as an individual. Last week,

1510
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: I dropped a clip that went viral. The clip I

1511
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: was speaking about Yo loan, you gotta be hyper focused.

1512
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes you hyper focus. You know. The connection is off

1513
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: with some of my home is because you know, sometimes

1514
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: when they come to me, they tell me how they feel,

1515
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: They telling me how they're feeling about things, and I'm

1516
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: always trying to tell them what I've been doing, meaning

1517
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: that I'm working and they winding, and of course I'm

1518
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: freestyling when I'm doing this. I'm just giving the game

1519
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: to the coaching. So I proceeded to say, Yo, there's

1520
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: a reason they in a sniper by hisself. He don't

1521
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: need too many people around him to get the job done.

1522
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: This is what I said verbatim. And I started to

1523
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: see a wave of people come up under that post

1524
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: and say certain things. And the number one thing they

1525
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: would say is, Bro, he was just vitting to you. Bro.

1526
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: That was kind of insensitive of you. They were saying, Bro,

1527
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: And this is a thousands of people loved it. Let's

1528
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: be clear. I just want to clear up things that's

1529
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: misunderstood in regards to me and what I'm speaking about

1530
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 1: and providing the culture with right. So again, when there's

1531
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 1: a misunderstanding that I want to clear up, I'm always

1532
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: trying to do so. So again they were saying things

1533
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: to me, and they would make a point because they

1534
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: always number one, I'm freestyling. So they're always looking to

1535
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 1: try to find out, Hey, what that a little analogy

1536
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: you've done, What was a flaw in that? Or how

1537
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: didn't it make sense? And a lot of times they

1538
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: can't really pointing anything out because I'm dealing with information,

1539
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 1: but they try to tell me this bro a snipe

1540
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 1: ain't bad self, he got a spotter, or snipe ain't

1541
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: bad self, he got this person and that person. And

1542
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: I addressed that because again, i make all my money

1543
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: from talking, so I'm not saying things that don't have

1544
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: any merrits around it bad. When they said that, I'm

1545
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,480
Speaker 1: not typing anything. I get paid to do a podcast,

1546
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: so I'd rather speak about things. When they said that,

1547
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: the first thing I said is yeah, you're right. Number one.

1548
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: What I said was he don't need two minute people

1549
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: around him. So that's that X is out. You me

1550
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: saying that I have to be alone to get it done.

1551
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I said, clear out, not that I'm alone. We draw

1552
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 1: up a plan letting me get it done. That's number one.

1553
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: Number two, when you mentioned a spotter and you mentioned

1554
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: these other people that's on the journey with the sniper,

1555
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: you forgot to mention that they they on the same mission.

1556
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: They got the same interest, so they ain't talking about,

1557
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, their girlfriend leaving them or whatever the situation

1558
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 1: may be. And I understand Vining, I understand that we

1559
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 1: have to communicate with each other. But now when the

1560
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: house on fire, I always tell like I had to

1561
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: tell women like certain times it ain't the time to

1562
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 1: talk about that. I understand it don't feel good, but

1563
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: we gotta go work out. I understand that you don't

1564
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: want to walk, but that's the only way we can

1565
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: get there. Let's do let's talking, let's talk about it

1566
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: on the walk, but let's be moving while we're talking, though,

1567
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: because what I know in our culture will fall victim

1568
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: of just talking. And I can't be one of them

1569
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 1: people that's falling victim of falling in that hole where

1570
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: you're just talking. Ed they you wake up, you just

1571
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: run around talking. You ain't doing nothing now that ain't

1572
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,440
Speaker 1: so again, I have to reject the notion of pitot parties.

1573
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: Not because I don't care about what my brother think.

1574
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: It's because it's ineffective to the goal that we got

1575
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: in place, was the business. Unfortunate for him and me

1576
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 1: that we in them circumstances where we don't have time

1577
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: to talk because the house on fire. They're getting rich

1578
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: out there without us, they figure shout out there without us.

1579
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: I talk about how I felt like I just I'm sorry,

1580
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: not right now, But maybe I'm speaking from a position

1581
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: of my people depending on me. So I'm a basshut

1582
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: the family. So sometimes when I'm talking, I'm talking as

1583
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: the bass of the family and not the little boy

1584
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: of the family. A lot of y'all receiving what I'm

1585
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: saying as the bouts of the family, as the little

1586
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 1: boy of the family. So you don't understand that everything

1587
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 1: that's moving is moving on your watch. So you don't

1588
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: understand that we don't got time for that. We gotta

1589
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: put our heels in the ground. Efolt, depending on us

1590
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: to get the company going, defolt, depending on us to

1591
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 1: keep moving. Unfortunate for me and you. I wasn't born

1592
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: like that. I wasn't born when those silver spoon them

1593
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: same people to see their favorite player in the NBA Finals,

1594
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: down five points, missus shot and go over there and

1595
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: getting his feelers in there, scream at the TV. You

1596
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 1: gotta get back in the game, man, you got you

1597
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: still gotta chang. Why is you? But I'm in real

1598
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: life telling that a yo, look like you walking, you

1599
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: breathe and look like you're doing that right. Let's get

1600
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 1: it gone, baby, ain't no sense of us doing that.

1601
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: She left you. Well, I know that hurt, boy, That

1602
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: hurt like a let work and talk about that though,

1603
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: But let's not fall in that ditch over they got

1604
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: ditches laying around what them felling them? Just talking. See

1605
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 1: sometimes I run past somebody is doing YouTube and somebody

1606
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: on the little show. I know, Oh he don't feeling

1607
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 1: the ditch. He just talking now, he just I mean

1608
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: when I say just talking, ain't no action on nothing.

1609
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 1: He talking about, just talking. He wanted him. So again

1610
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell my don't fall in them ditches,

1611
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: and I ain't trying to fall in one. So don't

1612
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: bring me around you know where you ain't trying to

1613
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: do nothing and you're just talking now. It was working

1614
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 1: hard the mother. He can complain a little bit. Yeah,

1615
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: working hard and do a little complaining, but there ain't

1616
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: no knick down for the points. Got no bid in there.

1617
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 1: You understand me. Someone complained and you down for it.

1618
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: You need to figure out how to score right now.

1619
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: And that's all I'm saying. Because in my family, and

1620
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 1: usually with black men, the family depending on you, the

1621
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 1: family you live, depending on the black man. So how

1622
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: to hear We're gonna be somewhat sitting around the camp

1623
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 1: fire talking and emotion or about Wayne got nothing not

1624
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 1: long not on my watch. But again I'm on the

1625
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: side of expression. I'm on side of expression, just not

1626
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: at the expense of the expectations. But again, if we

1627
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: can do a simultaneously, if you won't, if you if

1628
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: you're getting a whole bunch of work done, and you whine,

1629
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let you stay in their room by

1630
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: yourself whining. But I ain't gonna say a word because

1631
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: you're still a productive And unfortunately for us, we were

1632
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: born poor. We don't have no choice but to be productive.

1633
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 1: We don't have no choice but to battle label. Nigo.

1634
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Our family got a bad witness. We got a battle label.

1635
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm telling that we don't have time

1636
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: for the talking Homan. And so the time I have left,

1637
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 1: I gotta teach my children, love my woman, love my mother,

1638
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 1: love my children, and define my legacy. Ain't no where

1639
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 1: in the world I got time to be sitting around again.

1640
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I'm trying to avoid the ditch

1641
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: is falling in what they just don't end up talking,

1642
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: you ever, seeing they be in the hood. He get

1643
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: them a bill and he can sit out there all

1644
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: day and just talking. He ain't done nothing all day

1645
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: at a I can't do that, and so I'm hyper

1646
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: afraid of that because I know it's prevalent where I'm from.

1647
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: I see it. It happens a lot. So when I

1648
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 1: see you come around me and not again, not sad

1649
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: about something, but you are wobbling in the sorrow, and

1650
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 1: if that speaks to your mental health, I encourage you

1651
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: to go get to help, but not at the expense

1652
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 1: of what it is now. If I'm financially in a

1653
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: place to help you, I hip you. But right now

1654
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: we don't have that luxury. We got our feet on

1655
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: the ground, and I have to continue to try to

1656
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 1: do what's right for everybody that's depending on me. I

1657
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: encourage people to get some help, talk about things, certain

1658
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: things like that, but I wasn't speaking about someone saying

1659
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 1: that they want to hurt themselves or something like that.

1660
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: I'm talking about uses, and I'm a man. I don't

1661
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: care how anyone feels with how I feel about excuses

1662
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: and a lie. I always tell you can't tell me

1663
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: how to feel about a lie or an excuse, not

1664
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 1: me when I'm doing everything in the world to make

1665
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 1: sure it's happening. Not me. Somebody that listened to it.

1666
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Jet's not me because I got my shitting in the Yeah,

1667
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to it. Not me. I can't. I

1668
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: put too much into what I'm doing to listen to

1669
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,959
Speaker 1: tell me why he can't get it done. You understand,

1670
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: that's just part of the culture, that's part of the game.

1671
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 1: So I wanted to respond to people who were saying

1672
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,679
Speaker 1: those things. Let's talk about the Javante Davis and Romero

1673
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: fight that just happened last night, man. And when I

1674
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: tell you, I was looking forward to this fight. I

1675
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: was explaining to some of my relatives and love ones

1676
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't spend money on a lot

1677
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 1: of things because I mean, grandmother and so many other

1678
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: things I got going on. But one thing I drop

1679
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: bit check on. It's front row tickets to that boxing.

1680
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: I really with boxing. I grew up boxing. I really

1681
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 1: really enjoyed boxing. And when I got to thinking about it, man,

1682
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: coming up, I'm like boxing and so barbaric. When I

1683
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: watch it, my hands sweat like I'm really like UFC

1684
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: in boxing. My hands are sweating, and I'm feeling a

1685
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: certain way. I'm just like, yo, these they're getting down.

1686
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 1: You know, you watch the feet, you watch the jab.

1687
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: You watch certain things right, and you knowing what you're

1688
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: looking at, and it's so interesting. But this dude rolling

1689
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 1: where Mario was much bigger than Javante, so it had

1690
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: me in a weird place. I knew he was an

1691
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 1: awkward fighter, right, And so when you deal with an

1692
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: awkward fighter, the first thing you say is okay, the

1693
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: math ain't maughing, because what they tell you is in

1694
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: boxing is that if this foot is like this, he

1695
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 1: probably gonna do this. If this is if if he

1696
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: comes this way, he's probably doing this right. And so

1697
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with an awkward fighter, you're dealing with

1698
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 1: an individual that could be standing this way and throw

1699
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: some that ain't even possible according to the trainer. Now

1700
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: it could be possible, but not effective. Then you take

1701
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 1: an awkward dude and put strength with that. I was like,

1702
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, now Javante is a great fight. I

1703
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for what he'd do. I

1704
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: think he'll fight anybody. But even in the ring, I

1705
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he's smaller than this dude. But then

1706
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: when they weighed in, I thought the way to be

1707
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 1: really off. It was just one thirty three and one

1708
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: thirty four. So I was like, oh, he ain't as

1709
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: big as I thought, but he seemed stronger. He definitely

1710
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 1: is taller, but he seemed stronger or something. And someone

1711
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: was asking me, like, what's the importance of this fight?

1712
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, people are saying, and of

1713
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: course all this is alleged. I don't know it to

1714
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 1: be the case, but people are saying that there seems

1715
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 1: to be some kind of few with Javante and Floyd,

1716
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: and so they wanted him to take this fight because

1717
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: of the matchup. And if anybody knows anything about matchups,

1718
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: it's someone like Floyda, people that's been in the game

1719
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: that long, and so someone because I was always thinking like,

1720
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: he don't got but thirteen fights to our thirteen fourteen fights.

1721
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: How you get a title pay per view shot? That

1722
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: ain't usually how that worked? And so they were trying

1723
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: to say, and Javante is alluded to it and came

1724
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: out and took it back that there was some kind

1725
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: of situation between him and Floor because there was his

1726
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: last fight with Floyd. If I had the wondering guests

1727
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: and just use my mind to just imagine something that

1728
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know to be true, and people ask me

1729
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: like why would that be the case? Because I get

1730
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: into conversations like why would why would Floyd want to

1731
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: match him up with somebody that is stronger than him

1732
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 1: and fights awkward, that may can knock him out at

1733
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 1: any moment in the fight. If anybody knows how important

1734
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,759
Speaker 1: it is to have the zero on the other side

1735
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: of your record, it's Floyd Maywether because Floyd's being able

1736
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 1: to keep the goole sig on the other side, right,

1737
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,560
Speaker 1: the forty eight and oh the fifty and oh the

1738
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: fifty one and old because the old has been at

1739
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: the other side. A lot of olds has been coming

1740
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 1: in the bank account. There was no one close to Floyd.

1741
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: That's he beat the record, right, and I think Marciano

1742
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: is right under him. But after that you had Deontay

1743
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 1: Wilder coming up and he lost twice to the same guy.

1744
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: That's done. In regards to legacy talk, Javanta may have

1745
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 1: a shot because it's a matchup thing from him on. Now. Now,

1746
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 1: when you become the A side and you become the draw,

1747
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: now you have to it becomes more than just boxing.

1748
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 1: Now becomes who do I fight? When do I fight him?

1749
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: What's the matchup. You know, now what I do know

1750
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 1: about Floyd when he what he done, and I explain

1751
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: this to somebody, Floyd never show weakness. Floyd knew certain

1752
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: little tricks like if you have your mouth open, you're

1753
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: breathing hard. Right. So in boxing, if you see someone

1754
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: with their mouth open, see they start mouth clothes. But

1755
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: ninth round they're sitting over with their mouth open. They

1756
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: may still be jab they might got something still on it,

1757
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 1: but they mouth open, they tied. Floyd never showed that.

1758
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 1: He never took an extra second on the bench. He

1759
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: would always get right up, get at it, to show

1760
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 1: you that you ain't doing nothing. I'm in I'm not

1761
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: affected by this. I'm still tiptop shape going into the

1762
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:32,719
Speaker 1: eleventh round. So he will play. He's a dangerous mind

1763
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: game guy, you know, as well as the best or

1764
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 1: one of the best boxers ever to getting the ring,

1765
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, arguably the best, especially dealing with that weight.

1766
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 1: But I also was thinking, like this matchup is just

1767
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: it's a funny situation for Javante. And I seen on

1768
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 1: Javonte that he knew that. When I seen him come

1769
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,719
Speaker 1: out and say, okay, he he doesn't seem to be itself.

1770
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Number one, he don't got nobody with him. He usually

1771
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: have somebody come out with him, rappers, rapping with him,

1772
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 1: hire and got that. But he's at home, hometown hero.

1773
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 1: But he he didn't give me that that that fierce

1774
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 1: look that I was looking for. And that other dude

1775
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 1: come out giving me a lot of energy, and I'm like,

1776
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 1: see here a problem. See outn't fought one of them

1777
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 1: ones that ain't stopping you. See So at the beginning

1778
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 1: of the fight, I'm like, all right, let's see what's happening.

1779
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 1: And dude come out and he's swinging so hard and

1780
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,719
Speaker 1: called Javante, and I said, oh, Javante. Know he's dealing

1781
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: with some power. That why it ain't no see because

1782
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 1: he abrawl. Javante are getting in, he'll swap him out

1783
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: with you, not with this guy, because this guy was strong,

1784
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: so he was staying away from him. And what they

1785
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: let me know was his skill set had evolved. Speaking

1786
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 1: about Javonte Davis, because that's a different thing from just brawling.

1787
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: That's going on defense. He only threw twenty eight punches

1788
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 1: the whole fight. He ended up knocking the guy out.

1789
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 1: But I'm just dealing with prior to that, and how

1790
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 1: how I felt coming up into that sixth round. I

1791
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 1: will say this at the end of the first round,

1792
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: because Romero did promise and not got at the end

1793
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: of the first round, I didn't see that confidence in him. Romero.

1794
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,759
Speaker 1: He came back, but it had died for a second.

1795
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: It looked like he was just out there for a second.

1796
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 1: The lights and it might have got to him and

1797
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Javante were catching him with moving around on him, and

1798
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: it's like it they had got to him. But about

1799
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 1: the third round, I was sweating. My hands were sweating

1800
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 1: because I was like, Javante doesn't cout him, but he

1801
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: didn't cut him a few times and it seemed to

1802
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: be stinging him. It seemed to be I'm like, yo, man,

1803
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: what's going on. I'm I'm starting to get spook for Javonte.

1804
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this dude seemed to be muscling him

1805
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then I seen Javante talk to

1806
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: somebody in the front row because they was even telling him, bro,

1807
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: you gotta push push bro. He was like, now, not yet.

1808
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 1: When I seen him talking to the front row, like

1809
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: what's going on? I didn't know what we're going on?

1810
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: And then he threw a punch and said ouch or something.

1811
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 1: He said something damn or something, and I said, did

1812
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:11,719
Speaker 1: he hurt his hand? Come to find out he didn't.

1813
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 1: But in that moment, I was thinking, did he hurt

1814
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: his hand? What was that? Like? Something had happened, But

1815
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,640
Speaker 1: he came right back and handled it bidding. What I

1816
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: want to do is take a look at that knockout

1817
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 1: punch over on Showtime Sports in the Javante Davis Roller

1818
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: Romerio fight that ended in the sixth round. We're gonna

1819
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: deal with looking at exactly what took place, and we'll

1820
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 1: deal with some information after that. And he's using this point.

1821
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: You have to try to shut that up. So you're

1822
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: right because the previous fights, who've seen him that, Yeah,

1823
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 1: he seems kind of awkward, but and this body's others,

1824
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 1: he's down. For those of you listening, Roller Romerio just

1825
01:50:54,240 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 1: went down. All the leagues on him is out of here, budding.

1826
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: So even if you watch this right, he was getting

1827
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 1: out the way. Look at Mama, Mama proud. They're running redback.

1828
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 1: They're running back. But again, when you look at what happened,

1829
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 1: this dude was bigger than him. Javante was hit boo boom,

1830
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 1: getting out of there, getting out of there. He was

1831
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: taking kids bidding. And what I'm trying to tell people

1832
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 1: is he knew that this dude had a bunch of strength.

1833
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: Look at him. I even think he was a little spoot.

1834
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: I think coming out he was a little afraid. Everybody

1835
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: fuck one way or the other that was gonna happen.

1836
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 1: You just councelled the pfortable, Yes, all right. Look look

1837
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 1: so if you look at look boom he got out

1838
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: of there. See how he would move it. He would

1839
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 1: getting out of there. This is what we're making him

1840
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 1: effective on the guy because he were hitting him and

1841
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 1: getting the hell out of there. But dude were trying

1842
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 1: to box him. But look caught him wide open. Watch him.

1843
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 1: You gotta give a little bit to get a little

1844
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 1: bit one. Tell y'allut talk to me like you got

1845
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: some sin. If it wasn't for the roles, he'd be

1846
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: on his face now, out of the face, planning him

1847
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 1: one for the roads. Look at him trying to walk,

1848
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: sitting down trying to walk. See that would Look at

1849
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: the legs. I tell people the legs. I always tell

1850
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 1: what the vibrations there. Look at him trying to walk

1851
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 1: sitting down. See them legs, that's think he's standing up.

1852
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: Then watch the legs. The legs. Tell the store watches

1853
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 1: right here. Look at them legs. See it out and

1854
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 1: them legs ain't no good. It's old with. Look at it,

1855
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 1: it's old with. That fight was over at that point

1856
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,839
Speaker 1: in a way because even had even if he wouldn't,

1857
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:57,560
Speaker 1: he was coming with his own slaughter of punches after that,

1858
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 1: because he was clearly lout of it. Look at this one. Yeah,

1859
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 1: talk to me like you got some sense. Look at

1860
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:08,719
Speaker 1: that woffing and rose home. You've been on your face

1861
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: with it. Just a perfect punch, I mean, the perfect punch.

1862
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: Greg counter right hand and you know that all it's

1863
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 1: ironic that the things that Rameiro we're doing right up

1864
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: to that point he changed instantly by attacking and being

1865
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: uh not responsible defensively, and boom, he got hit with

1866
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 1: the straight left hand. And there's no question Javante Davis,

1867
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: when he hits you with a big shot, can hurt you.

1868
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:40,639
Speaker 1: And it's a wide right hand stem in his fight,

1869
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 1: he really let bright hand of the body and man

1870
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 1: did he get blasted without looking at it out of here,

1871
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 1: out of him and without those ropes. He literally would

1872
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: have been out in the spring. Yeah, but yeah, that's

1873
01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: that's a highlight, real knockout anyway. You look absolutely. I

1874
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 1: just I mean, it just shows the maturity and all

1875
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: the frustrations of all the given chance. Proud of that dude,

1876
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 1: the joy of again. Man, he proud to see somebody

1877
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 1: like Javonte Man go through something like it and still

1878
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: pull it off. Like I said, this dude had a

1879
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: This dude had a certain amount of weight or a

1880
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 1: certain amount of strength clearly over him. Man, he only

1881
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: threw twenty five punches. Um, some interesting happened. We want

1882
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 1: to watch Javonte David speak after, which is his post

1883
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: fight interview in which he spoke to the ring announcer.

1884
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: Legendary ring announcer. We want to view what happened, and

1885
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: we want to come back with some game. But let

1886
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 1: me let me say this too. I was thinking, even

1887
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: though dude came out with so much aggression and seemed

1888
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: like he had so much energy, I even thought about

1889
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: people like Mike Tyson and things like that, and Javonte

1890
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: Davis new this, if you can make it out of

1891
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: the first three four rounds with them, guys, all right,

1892
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: now you Now you're in good hands because a lot

1893
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: of them guys bank on getting this out of the way,

1894
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: and then longer fight starts to frustrate them because usually

1895
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: they catch you a few times and you don't fall,

1896
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 1: and it starts to get to the guys and they

1897
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: start to make decisions outside of the game plan. So

1898
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 1: if you can just get outside of them two second,

1899
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: third rounds with some of them guys and bring them

1900
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: into deep water, that's when you start the game playing

1901
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,839
Speaker 1: breakdown and not saying dude, there's no where they're skilled

1902
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: as Mike Tyson is. I'm just saying, with that kind

1903
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: of fighter that has the ability to really get you

1904
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: out of there quickly, you want to bring them in

1905
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: the deep water a little bit. Make him earn that knockout.

1906
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 1: Don't get in the swap with him like that, make

1907
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: him earn that knockout. But let's listen to what to do,

1908
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: said man, a ring announcer after the fighting. In my opinion,

1909
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: we'll deal with the information. Let's listen to it, all right, Berry,

1910
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: thank you very much, thank you, congratulations. You've been taking

1911
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 1: quite a bit of time here just in your own thoughts.

1912
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 1: What are you thinking right? Now. First, I wanted to

1913
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: thank um God first for this victory and everything like that. Second,

1914
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: I want to thank our Hammond may Well promotion the showtime.

1915
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 1: We did it again in New York City. Baby, Thank

1916
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 1: New York City, Thank you, thank you, thank you'all. First,

1917
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: I want my first belt here. It was great to

1918
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: come back to New York City and daughter again. Man,

1919
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking, um, as you know, this interview was

1920
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 1: coming up. As much I wanted to be cocky, but

1921
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 1: I want to thank m Role. I wanted to thank

1922
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 1: his his team. U. We sat alway like a man

1923
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 1: inside the ring, and I wish on the best in

1924
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: the future. Yet you were quite annoyed by him and

1925
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 1: his antics throughout the promotion of this fight. How satisfying

1926
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 1: does that make this victory? I'm sorry keep said again,

1927
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 1: you were quite annoyed by him and his antics throughout

1928
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 1: the promotion of this fight. So how satisfying to you

1929
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: is this victory? Um? I knew that it was all

1930
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 1: about setting the fight. Uh. I'm glad that we didn't

1931
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: fight the first time because I was so emotional. But

1932
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm just thankful and grateful to be in this position

1933
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: and I'll be able to come out with a win.

1934
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: But see a little stronger than you thought going into

1935
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 1: this fight. Uh No, he was strong for sure, but

1936
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: um it was a couple of shots that that I

1937
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: was getting warmed up and caught me and I was like,

1938
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: I can't sit there with him just yet. I know

1939
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: when I know when to take it, take it to

1940
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 1: my opponents and want to chill out. It was somebody

1941
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 1: in the crowd. I don't want to say his name,

1942
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 1: but they were telling me to press forward and I

1943
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: was like, nah, not yet, not yet. I got him

1944
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 1: to loose him up a little more. You were engaging

1945
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 1: the crowd. You kind of reacted to your mom dancing

1946
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 1: and you were talking to some folks word. Yeah, yeah,

1947
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll be trying to like get that vibe from

1948
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: when I'm in a gyman, you know what I mean.

1949
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't like to be cooped up like when fight coming,

1950
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: because you know I'm I'm a type of person that

1951
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: I panic, you know what I mean. So I'd like

1952
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 1: to have fun, and you were having some fun. Let's

1953
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: take a look right here at the end of this

1954
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 1: fight as you uncourt this big, big time punch with

1955
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 1: that straight left hand, tell us from your vantage point

1956
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: race sho. Now, let me let me explain a few

1957
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: things before we move any further. In my opinion, Javante

1958
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: Davis is a pure soul. So he's up there just

1959
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:34,959
Speaker 1: giving the game out like he's talking to the homeboy.

1960
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, he made a mistake when he

1961
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 1: let he led a little information out about itself. Then

1962
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 1: if I was him, I wouldn't have let out He said,

1963
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm a kind of person at panic, and I was

1964
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: in here and I was talking to try to shake

1965
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 1: it off, you know, I was you know, you know,

1966
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 1: I had to loosen up. I was kind of cold.

1967
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 1: What that means is the pressure kind of got to

1968
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 1: him or the not knowing this dude again, the mad

1969
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 1: ain't man. And when his feet moved this way, he

1970
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 1: ain't throwing the punch that they called for sums up

1971
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 1: with like this is a different thing. I'm fighting this

1972
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 1: dude is right. So I think they kind of started

1973
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 1: to bother him and play with his mind like any

1974
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 1: strong Oh he kind of strong. Oh, and the math

1975
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 1: ain't mathing right. So again I think it just placed

1976
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: him in a deficit in regards to getting his mojo,

1977
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: getting his mojoe gone and so if it was me,

1978
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have put that out because now fighters no

1979
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 1: try to get in his head, make him uncomfortable. See

1980
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 1: if you can get some pressure on him. Because he

1981
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 1: said here panic, make him panic. I wouldn't have never

1982
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 1: said that. You never let your weakness out. You know,

1983
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: you tell your coaches and that you're like, yo, man,

1984
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 1: I was slick, kind of slick, you know. I panic.

1985
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 1: I had to try to but on the outside like that.

1986
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't think with that much money at risk, I

1987
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,240
Speaker 1: don't think that you say that. But let's listen to

1988
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more. The crazy thing is I didn't

1989
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: even throw that hard. I just threw it. He just

1990
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 1: ran right in toy something something like when packy y'all

1991
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 1: got caught by all man. Uh yeah, I ain't even

1992
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 1: throw a hard. I just said it right there, boom.

1993
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 1: He ran right in toy it. And he didn't one

1994
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 1: ran into something to talk about me. He was gonna

1995
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 1: run into something. He might have fallen straight down on

1996
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: his face. That there not been the ropes there. Yeah,

1997
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 1: thank god, he's good. It's okay. He left the ring.

1998
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 1: Fight again. Ninety days, he will be able to fight again.

1999
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: He left the ring embraced by his father. Uh he

2000
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 1: did all the talking before the fight, But you were

2001
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 1: talking during the fight. Can you repeat to us what

2002
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 1: you were saying. I would just trying to have funch

2003
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 1: on sighting myself out. Uh. I knew that I could

2004
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 1: get in his head, you know what I mean, just

2005
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 1: by the when we when we waited, then you know

2006
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:00,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. Uh, I know his goal was to

2007
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 1: get in front in front of me. So when he

2008
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: went in front of me, he didn't realize that. Uh,

2009
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 1: the stand was like coming to an end. So I

2010
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 1: just tapped him shore and they fell. So what would

2011
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 1: you like to do next? I mean, we've got the

2012
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 1: cambosas hain'ty fight coming up. There's Ryan Garcia, he's in

2013
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 1: the crowd here this evening. You've got Lomachenko. What would

2014
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 1: you like to do going forward? Tanking? I'm here, baby,

2015
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm here. Whatever what they want to do, I'm here, baby.

2016
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 1: Hain't no safety on this glock, you know, ain't no

2017
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 1: safety onto the glock. And I got a lot of ammunition.

2018
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's stay away from guns. This is

2019
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 1: a awful time in our nation. So I know you're

2020
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:44,240
Speaker 1: just meaning this in terms of boxing. Oh yeah, hold on,

2021
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 1: hold on, ho ho ho ho ho. I have an

2022
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 1: extreme problem with that. Number one. Let me say this.

2023
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 1: I want to say, all right, Pet, anyone that's been

2024
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 1: affected by gun violence over the last few weeks, there's

2025
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 1: been some horrific events happened in the United States. Um,

2026
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 1: but there's some horrific additions in the United States as well.

2027
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 1: Those two conversations are separate from the one that we're

2028
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 1: having right now. As you see that we're dealing with

2029
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 1: an announcer and a very legendary guy. I've seen him

2030
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,400
Speaker 1: for years in that position. You see, they can't wait

2031
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:18,080
Speaker 1: to misrepresent what it is we're saying. I learned something

2032
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 1: from Javanta right there, just to move on, because when

2033
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 1: you engage with it and try to explain coaching, man,

2034
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it like that whole up man now

2035
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 1: in our coach and when we say that, what we

2036
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: mean is Wayne skinned wa ain't running from nobody. When

2037
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: you try to do that, sometimes you set yourself back.

2038
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 1: Now that engagement blows up bigger than even to fight.

2039
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,800
Speaker 1: So I learned in that moment from Javante to move on.

2040
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: Just move to the next thing. Clearly he's trying something

2041
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 1: right that What was that? But let's rewind not even

2042
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 1: two minutes before that, you're dealing with Javante Davis, who

2043
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 1: just came off of fight selling twenty thousand tickets for

2044
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: the company that you represent. Mister, so you're standing there

2045
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 1: with a microphone in a suit. He ain't did no

2046
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 1: sweat all selling tickets. The audacity of you to misrepresent

2047
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 1: what he was saying in that moment. I need black

2048
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: people to understand what they'll do with our coach. Javante

2049
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 1: Davis was good enough to sell twenty thousand tickets at

2050
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: a certain number that we know ain't cheap. What one

2051
02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:21,160
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, two hundred thought were how many pay per

2052
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 1: views that we know ain't cheap? But when I talk

2053
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 1: about slang, it's an issue. Not even two minutes priud

2054
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: to that, he thanked God, he thanked Floyd, he thinks Showtime,

2055
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 1: he thanked everybody involved. A humble spirit, the guy that's

2056
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 1: been talking about him the whole time. I hope he's okay,

2057
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:42,120
Speaker 1: maybe he can fight again. He was as humble as

2058
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:44,360
Speaker 1: he knows how to be in that moment. Now here,

2059
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,680
Speaker 1: you are working for the company that I just funded

2060
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 1: everything that you're looking at. You gotta come ask me

2061
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 1: a question. Then you put me in a position I

2062
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 1: didn't say nothing about non other fighter. You put the

2063
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 1: fighters on the list. You say, hey, yo, we got

2064
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 1: such and such here, such and such shire. Then what

2065
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 1: does that do to a fighter? That means it's time

2066
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 1: to sell a fight? Now they got to deal with

2067
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 1: my vernacular. Okay, So now I just I just made

2068
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 1: them thirty four. I just may have them any million

2069
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: to night. They are already trying to set them up

2070
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 1: to make them another three four. Hunting media, Well, they're

2071
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 1: working to shut out of me. So now they put

2072
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 1: them on the spot again for the knick. So now

2073
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: I got to say something razzle dazzle and what I

2074
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:28,240
Speaker 1: say you want it? Um, it's a very such a

2075
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:31,680
Speaker 1: such time. We definitely understand that that ain't what that meant.

2076
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: You're dealing with culture, the same thing that got all

2077
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 1: these seek soul. That's what coach is the metaphors of

2078
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 1: That's the problem we have it now with young thug

2079
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 1: and them using lyrics that we use metaphors to explain things, right,

2080
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: we use it. We we we creative, we crafty people. Man.

2081
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 1: So we speak in a certain way and we don't

2082
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:56,560
Speaker 1: mean no harm. Man. Come on, man, if anybody know

2083
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 1: about gun violences us that white dude ain't never been

2084
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:03,880
Speaker 1: involved nobody being killed on his watching knowing nobody being right.

2085
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 1: So these dude don't know what that's like. But the

2086
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 1: idea number one, I did a great job tonight by

2087
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 1: feeling everything up. They say, ain't no seats for sale,

2088
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: pay per view doing tremendous numbers. All this is on

2089
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 1: my back. You put me in a position to where

2090
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: I can't even celebrate the fight that I just want.

2091
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,560
Speaker 1: You want to talk to me about the next thing,

2092
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:29,960
Speaker 1: y'all trying to set up. I can't even I can't

2093
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,760
Speaker 1: even enjoy I just fought bigger than me that probably

2094
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,080
Speaker 1: could have knocked me out. I can't even enjoy that

2095
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 1: because y'all all so ready to work me. You want

2096
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 1: to talk about the next one, And then you put

2097
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 1: me in a position to what I'm I pulled the

2098
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:43,760
Speaker 1: seller fights, So here I come, selling the fight what

2099
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 1: you want me to say, I'm willing to box any

2100
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 1: guy that like, Yo, bro, this is my vernacular. I

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02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: come from the coach and this is my thing. We

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02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 1: use metaphors. This is how we get down. We wave it.

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02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: We don't expect you to know you ain't got but

2104
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: one color suit. We don't expect you to really feel

2105
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 1: the vibrations all list right here. But that's why the

2106
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 1: people here, you're here. When he dropped that New Yorker,

2107
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 1: hear the crowd done that. That's how that's what that's about.

2108
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 1: That's a part of that right there. You wouldn't understand it,

2109
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 1: but you've been locked in a beautiful position being able

2110
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 1: to ask questions of young, up and coming black fighters.

2111
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 1: That's making multimillions of dollars, and I'm sure you make

2112
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: a pretty penny, but you gotta be a little more

2113
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 1: in touch with understanding what's what's the driving force? And

2114
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 1: this is what i'd be telling y'all about the trick bad.

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02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me something working for the company that

2116
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 1: I just made millions of dollars for. You're gonna ask

2117
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 1: me about another fight. And then the way I respond

2118
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 1: to it, you're gonna step in and act and misrepresent.

2119
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 1: So you're implying something. My culture knew what I was saying.

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02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 1: You're implying something when you say that, right, and so

2121
02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 1: I just I need people to be in touch with

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02:06:50,360 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 1: the culture. That's the driving force dollar. Ain't nobody there

2123
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 1: to see such as such, this ring announcer due because

2124
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 1: he do the interviews at the end of the show.

2125
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody death for that. You're talking to the man

2126
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 1: they got the asses in the seas And rather than

2127
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:13,120
Speaker 1: let me enjoy my victory, you already working me again

2128
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: and then got a problem with what I say because

2129
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 1: you don't know culture, because you ain't in touch with culture.

2130
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Oh man, y'all gotta give

2131
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 1: us a little more respect than that. The idea that

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02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 1: you think that we would say something that to offend

2133
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 1: some people that's been gunned down a kid is I

2134
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:33,400
Speaker 1: just don't like that. And I wanted to speak on

2135
02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 1: that because I feel as though it's my place to

2136
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 1: do so. And before we move on to the six

2137
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 1: hundred breeze and Charleston White speaking of culture, we gotta

2138
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 1: learn to stay true to us, man, because it's so

2139
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 1: much value in our own understanding, it's so much value

2140
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 1: in our own infrastructure. But sometimes we don't feed We

2141
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: don't feed the horse. Sometimes we don't feed the animal.

2142
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: We gotta know how to treat the people. That's that

2143
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 1: know how to treat the people. You know what I'm

2144
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 1: saying when we put ourselves in a situation to really

2145
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 1: capitalize on what it is we provide to society, to humanity, right,

2146
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:13,240
Speaker 1: because it's even bigger than just hip hop. And that's

2147
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,960
Speaker 1: why I don't like the black media word or the

2148
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 1: hip hop commentator word, and right now it's broadcaster. Right.

2149
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 1: We ain't dealing with the hip hop commentary and now

2150
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 1: that even though hip hop is I love and our specialty,

2151
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 1: but we know the words smith games y'all play, So

2152
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 1: we just ain't gonna adopt anything that could set us

2153
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 1: back or could have us misunderstood a boy our own lookers.

2154
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 1: So now, don't call me a hip hop podcast or

2155
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 1: something like that right now until I go get the

2156
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 1: two three hundred me then call me a hip hop

2157
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:51,240
Speaker 1: podcast because it helped my brothers. But on the way up,

2158
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 1: I know the game you're playing, so I gotta play

2159
02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: it with you. Now, don't call me that I'm a broadcast.

2160
02:08:57,360 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 1: I think we have a problem with being true to

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02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 1: us else And when I think about it, because you know,

2162
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about it as I'm talking, I think

2163
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 1: it's because we're dealing with it evolve and culture. And

2164
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 1: so when you have things at risk, right, so, say

2165
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:16,600
Speaker 1: you lead a hood and go off and get some money.

2166
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: When you come back to the hood, things have changed.

2167
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 1: If you indulge, you got something at risk. So that

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02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of separates you from being able to indulge without

2169
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 1: anything at risk. And once you become once you become

2170
02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 1: instrumental in other people's lifestyle and providing houses and jobs

2171
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 1: and things for other people, you tend to try to

2172
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 1: limit your situations where that's the case. And so sometimes

2173
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's almost like we outpace ourselves. And

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02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 1: then when we deal with rappers or people that we

2175
02:09:47,720 --> 02:09:49,480
Speaker 1: ask interviews because I tell y'a a lot of the

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02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:52,200
Speaker 1: time alone and you know, they don't hear from me

2177
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 1: because they think I'm not worried of saying it. When

2178
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 1: I say, yo, they ain't coming on this up there podcast, man,

2179
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm putting the game down. They be like, all HEJ

2180
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 1: wants somebody own the It ain't that we're doing well

2181
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna continue to do well. We have conversations

2182
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 1: with the culture. They love us and we love them.

2183
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:12,200
Speaker 1: They can feel it we're passionate about it, we bleed it.

2184
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 1: It's nothing other than this that we would love to

2185
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 1: be doing, and this is what we do. So they

2186
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 1: think I'm they only viewing me as someone that needs

2187
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 1: to help, and that's the first mistake that they made.

2188
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:28,600
Speaker 1: Anytime someone classifying your wrong, they have made a mistake.

2189
02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 1: So that conversations with you can sometimes shed light on

2190
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 1: how they view you. But as people blow up, they

2191
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:38,360
Speaker 1: tend to get away from the rep they tend to

2192
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 1: get away from the hip hop. And then you got

2193
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:42,840
Speaker 1: a thing. We're dealing with the first round of hip

2194
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:46,520
Speaker 1: hop media, if you won't even call it that, Like

2195
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:49,480
Speaker 1: all these guys here now, it's just like the first round.

2196
02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 1: So it's a transition that need to be had. And

2197
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 1: again you're also dealing with a very limited pool, so

2198
02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:58,000
Speaker 1: sometimes they can't pull from it. But the bigger problem

2199
02:10:58,280 --> 02:10:59,840
Speaker 1: is you're dealing with people that ain't true to the

2200
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:05,320
Speaker 1: sell everybody Hall of Black Excellence hash tag. It's a

2201
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,240
Speaker 1: hell of a hash tag to put on your picture

2202
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:11,920
Speaker 1: once you already rich black excellence. See, some people think

2203
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:15,560
Speaker 1: black excellence it's because they're rich, and other black people

2204
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 1: poe that ain't what black excellence is Black excellence is

2205
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 1: being proud to being black. It means the quality of

2206
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 1: being outstanding. You know. So I'm an outstanding black, not

2207
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 1: a rich black. Yeah, I'm an outstanding not a rich No, No,

2208
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean none. The money go with that, Ye're usually

2209
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 1: when you're doing something outstanding, the money go with that.

2210
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 1: But a lot of people in hashtag black excellence and

2211
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, put your brother on and I'm all about

2212
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 1: black this and black dad, And they ain't giving no

2213
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:52,080
Speaker 1: budgets to no black people special on the come up.

2214
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 1: Everybody they look at already rich that ain't hipping nobody

2215
02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 1: that's helping the business. But I'm talking about hipping people.

2216
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 1: When we talk about black excellence, we're talking about outstanding blacks.

2217
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,920
Speaker 1: And sometimes, unfortunately we're not dealing with that. We're dealing

2218
02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:11,080
Speaker 1: with people that's hustling. And so the coaches for selling

2219
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 1: their out pricing black people. I remember, or I know

2220
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 1: how I look at other coaches, like Mexicans, no matter

2221
02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:19,080
Speaker 1: where they are, they're dressing like a Mexican dress with

2222
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: the boots and certain little things, you know, the Texas

2223
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:26,080
Speaker 1: Mexican attire or the Mexico or tire that you were

2224
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:29,280
Speaker 1: even seeing Texas or in my city and other cities.

2225
02:12:29,560 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 1: Mexicans stay true to themselves, even African certain ethnicities, they

2226
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:36,560
Speaker 1: stay true to themselves. And nothing rings more true when

2227
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: I say, yo alone, when we deal with what we'd

2228
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 1: be doing to just stay true to us, like all

2229
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:47,680
Speaker 1: litt old gouchin that we well, I got it on

2230
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 1: now all were it ain't us anything we're doing. We

2231
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 1: really don't adopt it, and we really be doing it

2232
02:12:57,040 --> 02:12:59,240
Speaker 1: in spite of the saying, oh y'all, y'all made that

2233
02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:02,040
Speaker 1: high price because you thought Nicks couldn't get it. I

2234
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,760
Speaker 1: got it and I don't care nothing about it. A

2235
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:07,160
Speaker 1: lot of times we're doing that, we're playing that game,

2236
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,280
Speaker 1: and then other times we just like the quality in

2237
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 1: what it is. But what do just do to claim

2238
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 1: they culture? They don't trigged us to think and pulling

2239
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,440
Speaker 1: up with the music bumping and banging in the sag

2240
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 1: and it's our call. Now, come on, man, you know

2241
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:26,040
Speaker 1: better than that. That's why I'm kicking high level game.

2242
02:13:26,120 --> 02:13:29,920
Speaker 1: I need to be loud about that. That's a subsection

2243
02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:34,200
Speaker 1: of a sub section. Let's be honest with each other.

2244
02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 1: I said, I think everybody claimed they ethnicity and they

2245
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 1: culture in a way that's visible and acceptable outside of us.

2246
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 1: They don't let us do it. It's offensive when we

2247
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:49,840
Speaker 1: come in what I had like it's right here and

2248
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:52,720
Speaker 1: and and and when OBJ want to wear a necklace

2249
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:57,760
Speaker 1: under jurors or ear ring, or want to get tattoos

2250
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:00,000
Speaker 1: here and there, and it's it's viewed a certain way

2251
02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:04,040
Speaker 1: when we put our culture on front street. But we

2252
02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:07,000
Speaker 1: gotta fight to stay true to ourselves. I remember going

2253
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:11,879
Speaker 1: into lunch rooms Mexican or or people or a Mexican

2254
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 1: or a person from Afghanistan or a mother African. They

2255
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:19,280
Speaker 1: don't give a cool in the lunch room. They're gonna warm.

2256
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:22,160
Speaker 1: They fooled up. They ain't eat met fried chicken and

2257
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:24,640
Speaker 1: you brought me. They eating what they eat, what they

2258
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:27,440
Speaker 1: from with their hands or whatever. They standing true to

2259
02:14:27,480 --> 02:14:29,960
Speaker 1: where they come from. And that's a hard thing to do.

2260
02:14:30,160 --> 02:14:32,480
Speaker 1: And for me, I can't do number respect it. But

2261
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:35,200
Speaker 1: we gotta do that. We gotta do that and then

2262
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 1: be honest when them corporate people coming down saying, yo,

2263
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta make them make exceptions. Yeah, this

2264
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:45,480
Speaker 1: is the lunch room. Were warming up out fool, were

2265
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:47,600
Speaker 1: warming up the fool where we from Look, man, I

2266
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:49,560
Speaker 1: need to go sit down with somebody. That's part of

2267
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:51,680
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. But we need a high budget thing.

2268
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:56,160
Speaker 1: Well let's give them a budget to do it. So

2269
02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:00,320
Speaker 1: I ain't worth that. But we gotta stand on and

2270
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:05,920
Speaker 1: stay true to ourselves, and in my opinion, we have

2271
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 1: trouble doing that. Let's talk about Charleston White and six

2272
02:15:10,120 --> 02:15:12,360
Speaker 1: hundred Breezes and for those of you an what Charleston

2273
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:14,480
Speaker 1: White is six hundred Breeze that had a run in,

2274
02:15:15,080 --> 02:15:18,520
Speaker 1: because Charleston White has been online saying some disparaging things

2275
02:15:18,560 --> 02:15:22,200
Speaker 1: about King von six hundred Breeze and being someone that's

2276
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:25,080
Speaker 1: part of that I think otf family, or that he

2277
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:28,280
Speaker 1: is from Chicago and was cool with King Vaughan and

2278
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,880
Speaker 1: so some of the things that Charleston White has said,

2279
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:35,879
Speaker 1: in my opinion, wouldn't warrant for a conversation from someone

2280
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:40,680
Speaker 1: that caused themselves a friend or brother of the people

2281
02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 1: that is being said about. And you know, Charleston has

2282
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:46,120
Speaker 1: been on my show. That's my guy. I don't wish

2283
02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:50,240
Speaker 1: harm on him, but I understand ramifications and I understand

2284
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:53,040
Speaker 1: how some of those things make him play out. And

2285
02:15:53,200 --> 02:15:55,720
Speaker 1: I think he's fully aware what may take place. He

2286
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 1: probably has firearms or has himself in some circumstances that

2287
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:08,600
Speaker 1: he's prepared. Nonetheless, he's been noted to say certain things

2288
02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:11,800
Speaker 1: about King Vaughan, like he was a demon, and he

2289
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:15,280
Speaker 1: was a devil, he did the devil work, and Little

2290
02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:17,840
Speaker 1: Tim is a god and things like that, Little Tim

2291
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:22,800
Speaker 1: being the person that is responsible for Kings vaughan transition,

2292
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:26,080
Speaker 1: and so he placed itself in the middle of those

2293
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:29,440
Speaker 1: death things. And everybody knows, in my opinion, that's the

2294
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,480
Speaker 1: wrong place to have a conversation about with that high

2295
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:36,720
Speaker 1: level of emotion, But Charleston does that. That's been his thing.

2296
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:40,720
Speaker 1: He's been consistent in his approach to these guys, and

2297
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,920
Speaker 1: so seems like the Internet has been waiting on him

2298
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,320
Speaker 1: to get into a situation where he has to run

2299
02:16:46,400 --> 02:16:48,760
Speaker 1: into some of them people that he talks about. I

2300
02:16:48,920 --> 02:16:52,560
Speaker 1: see everybody kind of goes through that. I see academics

2301
02:16:52,600 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 1: go through it. Certain people go through this thing where

2302
02:16:55,160 --> 02:16:57,119
Speaker 1: the audience is kind of waiting on you to run

2303
02:16:57,240 --> 02:16:59,480
Speaker 1: into them people that you be talking about to see

2304
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:02,880
Speaker 1: how this works its way out right, Because you've been

2305
02:17:02,959 --> 02:17:05,240
Speaker 1: able to say some shocking things about some of the

2306
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:07,200
Speaker 1: old people. Let's see how it plays out. And they

2307
02:17:07,240 --> 02:17:10,199
Speaker 1: seem to be dangerous people. So let's see what happened.

2308
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 1: So Charleston Um was out there, I think for a

2309
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:17,200
Speaker 1: movie or something, and there's a run in with him

2310
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:18,960
Speaker 1: and six honey Breezy. Let's take a look at the

2311
02:17:19,040 --> 02:18:07,760
Speaker 1: running and will come back rod kill. Now we play

2312
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:10,080
Speaker 1: him like, oh, I ain't no shouting, go on it

2313
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:14,400
Speaker 1: got the game bag. We get him up, we get

2314
02:18:14,440 --> 02:18:18,360
Speaker 1: him and then he get him. Now you'll go to

2315
02:18:18,959 --> 02:18:23,760
Speaker 1: music the revolution. We started out the who we started

2316
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:28,880
Speaker 1: at them in the bus. We don't know anything that

2317
02:18:30,760 --> 02:18:36,720
Speaker 1: anything because trim floor meny White, boat rapp on whatever

2318
02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:40,959
Speaker 1: gets some people like for us by love dozen other

2319
02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:43,800
Speaker 1: us forget that. I'm gonna get shoot so I'm gonna

2320
02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:47,879
Speaker 1: dive behind. I want to I don't want to understand.

2321
02:18:48,040 --> 02:18:50,200
Speaker 1: I understand what I said. I don't want out his

2322
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:52,680
Speaker 1: names when you're talking about I under said what I said.

2323
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:58,959
Speaker 1: I don't want to understand. We're talking to me quick.

2324
02:18:59,560 --> 02:19:02,440
Speaker 1: So he's you see the run in the first. Let

2325
02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:05,359
Speaker 1: me deal with the internet. So a lot of blogs

2326
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:09,800
Speaker 1: put out there that Charleston White was getting checked by

2327
02:19:09,879 --> 02:19:12,440
Speaker 1: six hundred Breeze, and they only put like five seconds

2328
02:19:12,480 --> 02:19:14,200
Speaker 1: out when he was like, yo, there are my people

2329
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 1: or something like that, and they ran would say Charleston

2330
02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:19,640
Speaker 1: got checked, and all the blogs put that out there.

2331
02:19:20,680 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 1: Charleston didn't know he was being recorded, you know, just

2332
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:27,640
Speaker 1: being recorded from behind. But the circumstances I was, you know,

2333
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:31,480
Speaker 1: first of all, watching Charleston and Academics relationships. Charleston wants

2334
02:19:31,520 --> 02:19:34,880
Speaker 1: to be paid to go on academics. Academics finds it

2335
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:37,680
Speaker 1: disrespectful that anyone wants to be paid to sit next

2336
02:19:37,720 --> 02:19:39,920
Speaker 1: to him. He thinks he's a tycoon in the space.

2337
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:45,040
Speaker 1: Charleston ain't gone for that. He's saying, paid me. Therefore,

2338
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,800
Speaker 1: Ak has got in this feelings. Charleston don't know this, yep.

2339
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 1: But they play a different game in the industry. So

2340
02:19:50,120 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 1: now At would never can probably acknowledge it again unless

2341
02:19:53,320 --> 02:19:56,080
Speaker 1: it's something bad. That's the game he played way around.

2342
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:58,640
Speaker 1: He won't acknowledge it into it something bad like that,

2343
02:19:58,840 --> 02:20:01,040
Speaker 1: you got checked. You make to his page. All the

2344
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:02,920
Speaker 1: game you didn't put out, ain't never made it to

2345
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:05,199
Speaker 1: it pay, all the game I putting out and ain't

2346
02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna never make it to it pay. But if something

2347
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:11,240
Speaker 1: happened to me, he might put that up if it's beef,

2348
02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:14,240
Speaker 1: and that's the situation that him and Charleston is in,

2349
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:16,800
Speaker 1: and it ain't beef. It's just that because he's made

2350
02:20:16,879 --> 02:20:20,760
Speaker 1: he's outwardly been academics, has outwardly been saying that if

2351
02:20:20,840 --> 02:20:23,600
Speaker 1: you charge me, niggas, fuck you, and it's up for you.

2352
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:27,160
Speaker 1: They on this side, and Charleston been sticking by you

2353
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 1: gotta pay for me to do the interview. So their

2354
02:20:30,440 --> 02:20:33,680
Speaker 1: relationship is funny. But other Blocks was putting it out

2355
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:36,959
Speaker 1: as well. But Charleston has a relationship with a few Blocks,

2356
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:40,280
Speaker 1: so he's able to send the long version video, which

2357
02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:42,160
Speaker 1: is what we just played where it's a couple of

2358
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:45,240
Speaker 1: minutes where it shows the back and forth. They made

2359
02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:47,840
Speaker 1: a mistake when they start talking with Charleston. They not

2360
02:20:47,959 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 1: equipped with the information to be able to see it.

2361
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:52,400
Speaker 1: Gonna take it, take high level game to get in

2362
02:20:52,480 --> 02:20:56,360
Speaker 1: there with Charleston and do that anytime you see and

2363
02:20:56,440 --> 02:20:58,760
Speaker 1: I'll play the video and I narrate what I think.

2364
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:02,119
Speaker 1: If you're watching, pay attention, we're gonna cut the volume

2365
02:21:02,200 --> 02:21:07,040
Speaker 1: down something. So this is where number one, you see

2366
02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 1: the space in between them, right that laugh right then

2367
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:20,199
Speaker 1: ten seconds in he knew he was all right. Ten

2368
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:23,960
Speaker 1: seconds in he knew he was all right because then

2369
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:27,000
Speaker 1: me and my partner and we got a problem. Ain't

2370
02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:31,520
Speaker 1: nobody laughing? We got you, buddy. Don't make no real

2371
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:34,720
Speaker 1: fast move or nothing. You are that with you now,

2372
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:37,400
Speaker 1: one of you be not moved too quick. We got you,

2373
02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:39,040
Speaker 1: and we're gonna take care of And then we're just

2374
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:42,080
Speaker 1: plotting on how we finna do it, because you finna

2375
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:45,199
Speaker 1: get sprung on in him. You know what I'm saying.

2376
02:21:45,240 --> 02:21:47,920
Speaker 1: But when that when he said whatever he said, and

2377
02:21:48,400 --> 02:21:52,480
Speaker 1: when they're laughing, he instantly no, I'm doing eight in him.

2378
02:21:54,720 --> 02:22:11,520
Speaker 1: Pay attention. See checking them, he checking them around. See

2379
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:14,200
Speaker 1: if them been still face like now, it ain't no,

2380
02:22:14,320 --> 02:22:18,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's dead energy in here about you. Ain't

2381
02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:21,320
Speaker 1: no laughing or none. So now what this does is

2382
02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:25,360
Speaker 1: identify who on whose team because of gonna be laughing

2383
02:22:25,440 --> 02:22:28,760
Speaker 1: when I say something disrespectful to a wit, if he

2384
02:22:28,879 --> 02:22:31,280
Speaker 1: with them like it, if they both got to understanding it,

2385
02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:33,560
Speaker 1: this is a little that we got an issue with.

2386
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:37,440
Speaker 1: Ain't none he's saying, funny, he's gonna hand of this,

2387
02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:41,119
Speaker 1: and so he can he can feel that it ain't

2388
02:22:41,120 --> 02:23:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna be too much of nothing going on. See the laughing.

2389
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:08,880
Speaker 1: Let him know, man's old. When you don't let him

2390
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:11,960
Speaker 1: see the other thing, you gotta know again. But but

2391
02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:14,400
Speaker 1: I won't even put that game man. Just pay attention

2392
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:19,000
Speaker 1: to patterns. Right. So again, when he starts to blow up,

2393
02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:23,760
Speaker 1: she's blowing itself up. You understand when he blow up

2394
02:23:23,920 --> 02:23:26,600
Speaker 1: is over, Man's old. For six hundred Breeze, then you

2395
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:28,800
Speaker 1: probably won't get another word in because I got the

2396
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:41,000
Speaker 1: crowd turning the crowd on him, turning the crowd on him. Listen,

2397
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:44,920
Speaker 1: take a high level mental jiu jitsu to come into

2398
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:47,360
Speaker 1: a room and turn your own crowd against you. But

2399
02:23:47,480 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 1: that's what he just did. We stood white, turn and

2400
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:21,600
Speaker 1: turn the whole turning it about against him. So again,

2401
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 1: this just shows kind of what the altercation was. I

2402
02:24:24,520 --> 02:24:27,320
Speaker 1: want to listen to six hundred Breezer respond and Charleston

2403
02:24:27,400 --> 02:24:30,080
Speaker 1: kind of explain the situation as well from his viewpoint,

2404
02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:32,920
Speaker 1: and we'll give a little more game about it. Yeah yeah,

2405
02:24:32,959 --> 02:24:35,680
Speaker 1: you can't knock a little Yeah, yeah you can't. I

2406
02:24:35,800 --> 02:24:38,560
Speaker 1: get I salute a little. Just what I'm gonna say.

2407
02:24:38,879 --> 02:24:40,880
Speaker 1: Did anybody that called it shelf being mad at the

2408
02:24:40,920 --> 02:24:44,280
Speaker 1: little Oh no, no, don't don't be mad at the

2409
02:24:44,320 --> 02:24:48,520
Speaker 1: little uh uh. You know we called it self defending

2410
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:51,880
Speaker 1: his homebol on him. Yeah yeah, yeah, you gotta you

2411
02:24:51,959 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 1: gotta respect any man that that that damn man that

2412
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:59,760
Speaker 1: the defendis homeboys on. Well, I've seen it on the internet.

2413
02:25:00,080 --> 02:25:02,960
Speaker 1: I slow, man, he gon do me like this? Oh man,

2414
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:04,840
Speaker 1: y'all got me down here to play into the game.

2415
02:25:04,879 --> 02:25:07,240
Speaker 1: We'll be man, get me down here and let's six

2416
02:25:07,280 --> 02:25:09,160
Speaker 1: hund to breathe and check me and treat me like

2417
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:11,480
Speaker 1: a rooty pool. Oh that's how y'all have done. Man.

2418
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Huh oh man, I'm flying back to day. Man, I'm

2419
02:25:14,320 --> 02:25:16,400
Speaker 1: flying back to day. He got me, Come on, do

2420
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:18,840
Speaker 1: every back you back, let's do they don't got us

2421
02:25:18,879 --> 02:25:21,080
Speaker 1: down here, so this young can do us like this

2422
02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:27,560
Speaker 1: and treating you ain't treating Yeah yeah, they said, noah, man,

2423
02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:30,040
Speaker 1: we ain't like Yeah. Man, we just had to be young.

2424
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:32,920
Speaker 1: I told y'all he can approach you like a man

2425
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:35,400
Speaker 1: and say what he's saying. You a man, ain't you? Yeah?

2426
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm a man? What the young approach you like a man?

2427
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:42,160
Speaker 1: So y'all talk. Y'all had to talk like a man, right, yeah? Okay,

2428
02:25:42,200 --> 02:25:44,320
Speaker 1: So that was Charleston when he first was out there.

2429
02:25:44,400 --> 02:25:47,680
Speaker 1: So this is what Charleston said he'd done. He said

2430
02:25:47,720 --> 02:25:50,080
Speaker 1: that after it happened, he chose to find someone in

2431
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:53,200
Speaker 1: that neighborhood that did YouTube to blow the YouTube up

2432
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:55,840
Speaker 1: and let them record him saying that he got checked.

2433
02:25:56,440 --> 02:25:59,440
Speaker 1: So we played into him being checked. That's what he's saying.

2434
02:26:00,040 --> 02:26:03,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's listen to six honey Breezy what he said,

2435
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:06,480
Speaker 1: and then we'll come back with a little gang situation.

2436
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't for no internet called or none of

2437
02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:13,480
Speaker 1: that weird that I woke though, because we can talk

2438
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 1: about it, because I'm gonna keep it real because a thousand,

2439
02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:21,160
Speaker 1: I respect that old that Charles the white Oh god,

2440
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:24,200
Speaker 1: that old nick chuck his tail and noney, he's standing

2441
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:26,040
Speaker 1: for what he believed anytime out, any time out. I

2442
02:26:26,080 --> 02:26:30,200
Speaker 1: don't agree with what she's saying, but you feed me like.

2443
02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:34,920
Speaker 1: My whole point was the bunch he on some on

2444
02:26:35,080 --> 02:26:37,640
Speaker 1: some black and paler and she on some oh y'all

2445
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:42,840
Speaker 1: killing black people and whoa. My point was call that.

2446
02:26:43,080 --> 02:26:46,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You you disrespecting my honey,

2447
02:26:46,879 --> 02:26:49,440
Speaker 1: You disrespecting them that we love. And they took him

2448
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:53,360
Speaker 1: off like I seen that three times after that, know

2449
02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:57,000
Speaker 1: all that, like I said it three times after after

2450
02:26:57,080 --> 02:26:59,240
Speaker 1: that knowledge It was a long it's a ten minute.

2451
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:04,160
Speaker 1: We had a ten minute motherfucking argument for for real.

2452
02:27:05,360 --> 02:27:08,959
Speaker 1: Like but before I get the charts, the white too,

2453
02:27:09,080 --> 02:27:17,320
Speaker 1: bro Crome faim, we're going for m h I a

2454
02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 1: Department of corrections right when I say violation February twenty second,

2455
02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:26,560
Speaker 1: twenty one, Right, well what the did that's? Do that?

2456
02:27:26,680 --> 02:27:31,400
Speaker 1: Sh bro it's ayah three and six to kio six nine. Right,

2457
02:27:33,480 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 1: you're fearing me, you see they try how much time

2458
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:38,720
Speaker 1: they try to give me for that shit, right, Like,

2459
02:27:38,879 --> 02:27:40,880
Speaker 1: come on, bro, I'm not a dummy name, I'm not

2460
02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:42,960
Speaker 1: a goofy. I'm not a clown. Nick. I just went

2461
02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:44,920
Speaker 1: to jail for playing in of their games with niggas

2462
02:27:44,959 --> 02:27:47,040
Speaker 1: you think off from the plate and do some weird

2463
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:49,360
Speaker 1: ship with an old that's telling me to my face,

2464
02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:52,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to jail. You're gonna go to jail.

2465
02:27:52,280 --> 02:27:54,120
Speaker 1: I just went to jail for saying, come on, bro,

2466
02:27:54,280 --> 02:27:56,960
Speaker 1: this real, Like, come on, I can't make this up.

2467
02:27:57,040 --> 02:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I can't print this shot of nothing, you clown yelly

2468
02:28:00,720 --> 02:28:02,640
Speaker 1: the goofy room. So I'm glad. I don't want them

2469
02:28:02,680 --> 02:28:05,119
Speaker 1: to post no clips and me threatening no old man,

2470
02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:08,640
Speaker 1: that man a hundred years old. I don't be the

2471
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:12,040
Speaker 1: like that's a hundred years old, bro. If I just

2472
02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:17,880
Speaker 1: went to jail for threatening to Kashi six man and

2473
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:22,160
Speaker 1: he a federal informant, like, come home, bro, like y'all

2474
02:28:22,280 --> 02:28:24,760
Speaker 1: be expecting the crash out. I didn't expect to see

2475
02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:26,680
Speaker 1: that Charleston Like, I didn't know who Charles somebody was

2476
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:29,359
Speaker 1: on la on Lenar Anderson. I didn't know who then

2477
02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:36,800
Speaker 1: was Bronwum the whole time. Now were in Mississippi at

2478
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:40,880
Speaker 1: the at the movie premiership. Nah, he come in and

2479
02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:42,959
Speaker 1: they get that. You know there's Charles to white wool

2480
02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:45,560
Speaker 1: six hundred bredes. He what's up, black man? Happy old

2481
02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:48,920
Speaker 1: coming up? Now. I'm looking like Dan that they ain't

2482
02:28:48,920 --> 02:28:51,280
Speaker 1: saying for me. I've been seeing this go viral and

2483
02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:53,800
Speaker 1: ship man. Well, you know, so I stand on the porch.

2484
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I stand on the porch for like twenty thirty minutes

2485
02:28:57,040 --> 02:28:59,440
Speaker 1: and listen to that that that interview, he did what

2486
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:02,360
Speaker 1: he was saying, and UH looked him did God's work

2487
02:29:02,440 --> 02:29:05,800
Speaker 1: or whatever? That blew me, bro, But I'm already he

2488
02:29:05,879 --> 02:29:07,840
Speaker 1: got his security with me. We got sheriffs there on

2489
02:29:07,879 --> 02:29:10,199
Speaker 1: the scene. We got you know, we got important people

2490
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:13,200
Speaker 1: coming in the city or whatever. So I walk in

2491
02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:15,000
Speaker 1: the crib like I'm as a man. I'm not. I

2492
02:29:15,040 --> 02:29:16,960
Speaker 1: can't sit around this again. I say nothing to this.

2493
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:20,080
Speaker 1: So I walk in the crib. I get that Hey,

2494
02:29:20,920 --> 02:29:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm hey, what you I'm on some cool. I never

2495
02:29:22,879 --> 02:29:26,000
Speaker 1: yelled at this old. None of that I never I

2496
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:27,880
Speaker 1: never did. None of that was old. I'm not doing

2497
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:29,760
Speaker 1: that with it that I know. He's gonna put the

2498
02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:31,320
Speaker 1: police on He telling me to my face, I'm put

2499
02:29:31,400 --> 02:29:34,000
Speaker 1: the police on you, right cool. So I'm going to

2500
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:36,800
Speaker 1: ask him, hey, what you got to get Chicago? Nex.

2501
02:29:37,400 --> 02:29:39,800
Speaker 1: He looked me in the face and like shit, he

2502
02:29:40,280 --> 02:29:43,640
Speaker 1: ain't never made no Chicago and never in my life.

2503
02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm well, you meet one right now and I'm beaty.

2504
02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:49,960
Speaker 1: You fear me and vun my homie. So what's up

2505
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:54,279
Speaker 1: with that? Bro? He y'all killing black people? He stood

2506
02:29:54,320 --> 02:29:56,879
Speaker 1: on on God that old stood on this. He made

2507
02:29:56,920 --> 02:29:59,520
Speaker 1: y'all he was on some revolutionary ship like are we

2508
02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:02,600
Speaker 1: we don't do that, and um, it takes us we

2509
02:30:02,680 --> 02:30:06,520
Speaker 1: don't kill we we don't kill black people. Knowing that

2510
02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:09,360
Speaker 1: the cap making it seem like it takes us. They

2511
02:30:09,480 --> 02:30:12,959
Speaker 1: just killing white people. They on some black apparments, but whatever,

2512
02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:17,000
Speaker 1: whatever the case was. So he yeah, whoo. That's when

2513
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:20,120
Speaker 1: he looked like, man, I'm ready to dip behind this

2514
02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:24,640
Speaker 1: that we're talking about the revolutionary. So that's when it

2515
02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:31,560
Speaker 1: got different from me. Um. You know what, hey, bro um, See,

2516
02:30:31,600 --> 02:30:33,360
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm not gonna fuck you up in

2517
02:30:33,480 --> 02:30:35,200
Speaker 1: here or jump over this table and hit you in

2518
02:30:35,280 --> 02:30:38,119
Speaker 1: your security in y'all mouth is because my people flew

2519
02:30:38,160 --> 02:30:39,560
Speaker 1: you out, and I don't want to make it seem

2520
02:30:39,560 --> 02:30:42,320
Speaker 1: like they backdoor join they're doing bad business. I said,

2521
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:46,400
Speaker 1: but when I see you again, it's gonna be a problem.

2522
02:30:47,080 --> 02:30:50,440
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be that. So that I only that

2523
02:30:50,520 --> 02:30:53,440
Speaker 1: older he was. He went from that raw roster, Oh

2524
02:30:53,879 --> 02:30:56,440
Speaker 1: this little chain, Oh no cool, he on some bullshit.

2525
02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:59,680
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, like I see

2526
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:04,160
Speaker 1: you again outside of this, like it's gonna be a problem.

2527
02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:07,280
Speaker 1: So you hear six hundred breezes speak about to run in.

2528
02:31:07,400 --> 02:31:11,560
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you know, he in a hard position,

2529
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:13,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because he got to feed

2530
02:31:13,240 --> 02:31:15,600
Speaker 1: his family and he just went to jail. I think

2531
02:31:15,680 --> 02:31:19,560
Speaker 1: for his encounter with Takashi six nine. So, but that's

2532
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:22,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, my whole thing. But you had to

2533
02:31:22,520 --> 02:31:24,920
Speaker 1: ask yourself if if that was King Vaughan and the

2534
02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:27,040
Speaker 1: shoe was on the other foot with King Vaughan, would

2535
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:29,080
Speaker 1: have sprung on him? If you and your heart believe

2536
02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:31,959
Speaker 1: that you got a spring on him, And that's unfortunate,

2537
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:34,720
Speaker 1: but that's the that's the game they in, you know

2538
02:31:34,760 --> 02:31:38,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And a lot of people try to

2539
02:31:38,240 --> 02:31:40,360
Speaker 1: come out and say that, but again I also know

2540
02:31:40,600 --> 02:31:42,840
Speaker 1: don't go on the trick back. So I'm trying to

2541
02:31:42,959 --> 02:31:47,440
Speaker 1: understand the other side as well. Um, but again, your

2542
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:51,200
Speaker 1: loved ones being dead and being disrespected, that's something that

2543
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand, you know what I'm saying. Let's listen

2544
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:55,280
Speaker 1: to Charleston speak about it a little bit and then

2545
02:31:55,360 --> 02:31:59,600
Speaker 1: we'll come back. Oh, it was in somebody's house with

2546
02:31:59,800 --> 02:32:03,280
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of Nimes, deep off in the hood.

2547
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:06,680
Speaker 1: And I ain't know one soul, not even six hundred

2548
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:09,720
Speaker 1: breezing when he was asked when he was I ain't

2549
02:32:09,879 --> 02:32:14,000
Speaker 1: know him. Yeah, what were you? What were you doing before?

2550
02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:17,200
Speaker 1: What were you? What led you to that? I was

2551
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:22,320
Speaker 1: Bob Bob Bob Bob movie producer. So so when I

2552
02:32:22,400 --> 02:32:26,240
Speaker 1: get there, I get introduced to Breezing and I ain't

2553
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna say too much because we kind of like under

2554
02:32:29,040 --> 02:32:32,720
Speaker 1: contract contracts for agreement because in the future we go

2555
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:36,240
Speaker 1: sit down and talk about this on the podcast. That

2556
02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:39,080
Speaker 1: video was never supposed to be leaked, right, So what

2557
02:32:39,160 --> 02:32:41,279
Speaker 1: are your thoughts as far as when that video leaks

2558
02:32:41,959 --> 02:32:43,560
Speaker 1: and then you have to go back on your channel

2559
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:46,160
Speaker 1: to put or you know, put the actual not the

2560
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:49,320
Speaker 1: whole video, but you put the video outshow that in

2561
02:32:49,440 --> 02:32:51,440
Speaker 1: one of that. But you have to like control a narrative.

2562
02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Everybody everybody was disappointed. Let me just say this, Uh

2563
02:32:56,400 --> 02:32:59,560
Speaker 1: everybody in Mississippi was disappointed. As soon as I end

2564
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:05,840
Speaker 1: my life, I see this, and so I called and

2565
02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:09,800
Speaker 1: wake up the filmmakers and man, uh damn man, you

2566
02:33:09,879 --> 02:33:13,240
Speaker 1: know because at this point I know they didn't do it.

2567
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, many played me for an Internet Virals moment,

2568
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:19,080
Speaker 1: and I mean what you're talking about? So I sent

2569
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:23,199
Speaker 1: him in the video. H you know, they they wouldn't happen.

2570
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:27,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know we were being recorded. I didn't know

2571
02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:30,120
Speaker 1: they were recorded. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, now we we

2572
02:33:30,520 --> 02:33:35,039
Speaker 1: was deep off into trenches in the heart of these streets,

2573
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:41,200
Speaker 1: would realize street anything could have went, and then we

2574
02:33:41,240 --> 02:33:45,040
Speaker 1: go keep it in the streets. But somebody leaked it

2575
02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:49,000
Speaker 1: to the internet. But let me just say this, it's

2576
02:33:49,040 --> 02:33:57,280
Speaker 1: a reason why the whole entire clip wouldn't release because now, no, no,

2577
02:33:57,400 --> 02:34:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm down here standing on it now. Man, I'm down

2578
02:34:00,360 --> 02:34:03,400
Speaker 1: understanding on that, checking whatever that's being brought to me. Now,

2579
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:05,880
Speaker 1: I needn't give it down by g DBT. I'm making

2580
02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:08,440
Speaker 1: it own down here. I don't give by none of

2581
02:34:08,480 --> 02:34:10,760
Speaker 1: that home. I'm from Chicago. I don't cut none by

2582
02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:14,640
Speaker 1: none of that. And guess what everything went how I

2583
02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to win, because in real life I'm really

2584
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:20,600
Speaker 1: a bad motherfucker in real life. If you catch me

2585
02:34:20,680 --> 02:34:23,080
Speaker 1: in real life and you brain what you think you

2586
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:25,320
Speaker 1: gon brain to me, you go get what he got.

2587
02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:28,640
Speaker 1: So that was the endcounter man again, when you get

2588
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:31,480
Speaker 1: the letting them perform as old with So he whooped,

2589
02:34:31,520 --> 02:34:34,640
Speaker 1: he whooped on them, like yeah, man, And I don't know.

2590
02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:36,760
Speaker 1: I guess some people like yo, I get a six

2591
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:39,960
Speaker 1: honeyean crashing out. But in the back of some of

2592
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:42,520
Speaker 1: the people head there's probably on the only side They

2593
02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:45,480
Speaker 1: probably like, nah, they ain't posted you feel me, But

2594
02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't. You know, I don't want to

2595
02:34:49,320 --> 02:34:53,600
Speaker 1: see nothing happening to Charleston, but I think I colch you.

2596
02:34:53,720 --> 02:34:56,560
Speaker 1: We got to start having conversations about things to bridge

2597
02:34:56,600 --> 02:34:59,360
Speaker 1: some of those gaps. What I found interesting about the

2598
02:34:59,760 --> 02:35:03,720
Speaker 1: city situation is a six hundred breezes said that somebody

2599
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:06,760
Speaker 1: came and told him who Charleston White was. And while

2600
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:09,320
Speaker 1: I understand why they would want to make your well

2601
02:35:09,440 --> 02:35:11,720
Speaker 1: who was in the building and what they may have done,

2602
02:35:12,280 --> 02:35:16,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but to think about King Vaughan because

2603
02:35:16,360 --> 02:35:18,720
Speaker 1: there was the same circumstance as King Vaughn was in.

2604
02:35:18,800 --> 02:35:20,480
Speaker 1: They went and knocked on the door or the one

2605
02:35:20,560 --> 02:35:24,280
Speaker 1: door allegedly according to what reports have said, and said, yo,

2606
02:35:24,480 --> 02:35:26,240
Speaker 1: such and such name as here, and he just went

2607
02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:30,920
Speaker 1: and went off. You see so yo, PSA to my

2608
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:32,960
Speaker 1: home is don't let me know the opposite in the

2609
02:35:33,040 --> 02:35:35,120
Speaker 1: build and let me know you sprung on them, or

2610
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:37,040
Speaker 1: let me know you squashed it, let me know you

2611
02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:39,600
Speaker 1: took some kind of action. But don't come get the

2612
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:43,400
Speaker 1: money to come rick the car. You see what I'm saying,

2613
02:35:43,520 --> 02:35:46,240
Speaker 1: If dude, is the money like I just I couldn't

2614
02:35:46,280 --> 02:35:48,400
Speaker 1: help but think that because that were to me. It's like, yo,

2615
02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:53,560
Speaker 1: why somebody always come into report that somebody is here? Yo?

2616
02:35:53,720 --> 02:35:56,400
Speaker 1: If I don't like them, then you don't pull Ever,

2617
02:35:57,040 --> 02:35:59,400
Speaker 1: how yo you coming to tell me that somebody I

2618
02:35:59,520 --> 02:36:01,240
Speaker 1: don't like it is here? But damn we're on the

2619
02:36:01,320 --> 02:36:03,960
Speaker 1: same team. So who I don't like? You know, some

2620
02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:07,680
Speaker 1: ain't adding up, the math ain't mathing. But I couldn't

2621
02:36:07,720 --> 02:36:10,120
Speaker 1: help but to think about King Van y'au we Yo,

2622
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:13,160
Speaker 1: y'all got to break that out there. Stop running to

2623
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:15,920
Speaker 1: tell your rapper home or the dude this this this

2624
02:36:17,160 --> 02:36:19,640
Speaker 1: bringing the money in that the ops in the building

2625
02:36:19,840 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 1: or something like if you're gonna tell them, you know,

2626
02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:24,520
Speaker 1: tell them to be aware, but don't tell them to

2627
02:36:24,560 --> 02:36:27,000
Speaker 1: go try to handle it or light man, let's dude,

2628
02:36:27,040 --> 02:36:32,000
Speaker 1: such man get at that. It's like, yo, y'all asking

2629
02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:35,040
Speaker 1: for for dudes to crash shot. Last week I was

2630
02:36:35,040 --> 02:36:37,320
Speaker 1: talking about NBA young boy being worth from more than

2631
02:36:37,400 --> 02:36:41,199
Speaker 1: twenty five million, and people ask me all the time,

2632
02:36:41,560 --> 02:36:44,560
Speaker 1: like when he tweets certain things like about death and

2633
02:36:44,680 --> 02:36:48,240
Speaker 1: going to jailish like that. You know, sometimes I don't

2634
02:36:48,280 --> 02:36:50,680
Speaker 1: know how to feel about rappers when they do that. So,

2635
02:36:51,360 --> 02:36:55,440
Speaker 1: I you know, I tried to examine what's going on

2636
02:36:55,720 --> 02:36:58,920
Speaker 1: with the young Stovell and at first I'm thinking, Yo,

2637
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:01,119
Speaker 1: he might think the Ops that dub. I don''t think

2638
02:37:01,160 --> 02:37:03,760
Speaker 1: it's that. I think dude think the label lot though,

2639
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:07,120
Speaker 1: because he's dealing with that level of bid and I

2640
02:37:07,240 --> 02:37:10,520
Speaker 1: think he think that if I don't sign an Atlantic,

2641
02:37:10,600 --> 02:37:12,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna send me to jail, They're gonna kill me.

2642
02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:15,520
Speaker 1: But if I signed in them, they can probably make

2643
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:19,560
Speaker 1: this charge. I gotta go away. I really, I really

2644
02:37:19,640 --> 02:37:22,480
Speaker 1: believe deep down he thinking like because you gotta think

2645
02:37:22,520 --> 02:37:25,120
Speaker 1: he is big business. A hundred gold and platinum plex

2646
02:37:25,280 --> 02:37:27,879
Speaker 1: is a big deal, so and he might be privy

2647
02:37:27,920 --> 02:37:29,760
Speaker 1: to something that we don't know. But it seemed like

2648
02:37:29,879 --> 02:37:32,400
Speaker 1: that he think these people here by this kind of

2649
02:37:32,480 --> 02:37:36,600
Speaker 1: money pull or flee flicker, and it seemed like that

2650
02:37:36,680 --> 02:37:38,800
Speaker 1: he think one is coming. Don't behaved for them. And

2651
02:37:38,840 --> 02:37:41,039
Speaker 1: I'm telling I spent some time thinking, dude, he think

2652
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:44,280
Speaker 1: it's the ops. Nah. I think he think that label

2653
02:37:44,480 --> 02:37:48,240
Speaker 1: is trying to force him to sign some kind of way.

2654
02:37:48,680 --> 02:37:51,080
Speaker 1: And in my opinion, twenty five million ain't enough. I

2655
02:37:51,200 --> 02:37:54,199
Speaker 1: explain why why alone? Because it's audience has now grown.

2656
02:37:54,840 --> 02:37:58,080
Speaker 1: It's audience are now fitting into the market as consumers.

2657
02:37:58,720 --> 02:38:01,000
Speaker 1: All those people that were young and listening to him

2658
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:03,600
Speaker 1: on YouTube with all the views, they now entering in

2659
02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:07,480
Speaker 1: the job marketing, entrepreneurship and graduating things like that. So

2660
02:38:07,600 --> 02:38:10,160
Speaker 1: he's about to see more money coming in. I'm the

2661
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:13,080
Speaker 1: first one to identify that because I'm value in the

2662
02:38:13,200 --> 02:38:16,680
Speaker 1: game in a different way. His audience has grew with him.

2663
02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:20,199
Speaker 1: That's why his presence has been so big on YouTube

2664
02:38:20,320 --> 02:38:22,400
Speaker 1: is because he was dealing with an audience who didn't

2665
02:38:22,480 --> 02:38:26,880
Speaker 1: have a presence in regards to spending. They didn't have

2666
02:38:26,959 --> 02:38:30,959
Speaker 1: a spending presence, but they had a presence on YouTube

2667
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:32,720
Speaker 1: to be able to watch him. They loved him, they

2668
02:38:32,800 --> 02:38:35,680
Speaker 1: liked him. His ticket sales was always about twenty twenty five,

2669
02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:38,160
Speaker 1: and now he's able to jump that up because now

2670
02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:40,680
Speaker 1: those guys that was watching them on YouTube three four

2671
02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:44,920
Speaker 1: years ago now eighteen nineteen and providing themselves some luxury.

2672
02:38:45,760 --> 02:38:48,240
Speaker 1: That's why you him in the NFL and the NBA

2673
02:38:48,360 --> 02:38:50,520
Speaker 1: and certain things in the locker rooms because then young

2674
02:38:50,600 --> 02:38:53,480
Speaker 1: boys grew up with him. So I think he's worth

2675
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:55,960
Speaker 1: way more than twenty five men, especially if Drake got

2676
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:58,959
Speaker 1: four hunter. Let's be real. I told y'all, I broke

2677
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:01,880
Speaker 1: the whole game down. You don't always got to be

2678
02:39:01,959 --> 02:39:03,640
Speaker 1: the top player, but you need to keep up with

2679
02:39:03,720 --> 02:39:05,680
Speaker 1: the top player. Because if he got four hundred met

2680
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:07,560
Speaker 1: and at number one and I'm number eight, what is

2681
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:10,600
Speaker 1: that laying me longest? Number two get three fift, then

2682
02:39:10,680 --> 02:39:13,160
Speaker 1: number three get three hundred, and number four get two fift,

2683
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:15,879
Speaker 1: then number five get two hundred, number six get I'm

2684
02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:19,920
Speaker 1: right in lying on that, then not budging, you know,

2685
02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:22,520
Speaker 1: but you gotta pay attention because if they wanted to

2686
02:39:22,600 --> 02:39:24,600
Speaker 1: do something the NBA young boy, they could easily do

2687
02:39:24,680 --> 02:39:26,440
Speaker 1: it and blame it on the ops or blame it

2688
02:39:26,520 --> 02:39:30,320
Speaker 1: on some kind of weird you know, home invade type thing,

2689
02:39:30,440 --> 02:39:32,560
Speaker 1: like he can get weird. Man. You know, I pray

2690
02:39:32,640 --> 02:39:34,840
Speaker 1: that it ain't the case. But when you look at

2691
02:39:34,879 --> 02:39:37,600
Speaker 1: this tweets and seemed like he feels someone knows something

2692
02:39:37,680 --> 02:39:40,600
Speaker 1: that we don't know. Let's talk about Rapper Case So.

2693
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:45,720
Speaker 1: Rapper Case So out of Jacksonville, Florida, is currently incarcerated

2694
02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:48,960
Speaker 1: on a couple first degree murder charges along with his father.

2695
02:39:49,800 --> 02:39:55,039
Speaker 1: Allegedly was seen on something tape aligning him or attaching

2696
02:39:55,160 --> 02:39:58,360
Speaker 1: him to a crime or first degree murder, and on

2697
02:39:58,520 --> 02:40:02,000
Speaker 1: show a couple of other charges he has penned. I

2698
02:40:02,080 --> 02:40:04,400
Speaker 1: want to speak about this because now it's being known

2699
02:40:04,480 --> 02:40:07,520
Speaker 1: that his father is now testifying against him in court,

2700
02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:09,760
Speaker 1: and I want the hood and the ghether in the streets,

2701
02:40:09,800 --> 02:40:13,040
Speaker 1: and the entrepreneurs and the businessmen and the podcasts and

2702
02:40:13,160 --> 02:40:15,320
Speaker 1: the rappers and the athletes and all of us to

2703
02:40:15,480 --> 02:40:21,360
Speaker 1: understand and let this be a cautionary tale as to

2704
02:40:21,480 --> 02:40:25,320
Speaker 1: the streets being a place where it's hard to prevail.

2705
02:40:26,800 --> 02:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Before we kind of get into what happened in the circumstances,

2706
02:40:29,920 --> 02:40:31,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna run it back to give y'all because I'm

2707
02:40:31,959 --> 02:40:34,400
Speaker 1: sure some people don't know who this rapper is. So

2708
02:40:34,480 --> 02:40:36,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna put in context who we're dealing with, and

2709
02:40:37,080 --> 02:40:40,120
Speaker 1: then we'll speak about what it's took in place. Let's

2710
02:40:40,160 --> 02:40:43,360
Speaker 1: take a look at Caso's charges according to the news

2711
02:40:43,840 --> 02:40:49,320
Speaker 1: in his local area, and we're learning about new evidence

2712
02:40:49,360 --> 02:40:52,039
Speaker 1: in connection to a local rapper accused in two different murders.

2713
02:40:52,120 --> 02:40:55,760
Speaker 1: Hakim Robinson, known as rapper Caso, appeared in court again

2714
02:40:55,800 --> 02:40:58,600
Speaker 1: this morning completing not guilty. They're two separate first degree

2715
02:40:59,120 --> 02:41:02,440
Speaker 1: murder charges. News for Jack's investigator Cooley appeal shows us

2716
02:41:02,480 --> 02:41:05,119
Speaker 1: what his lawyer is now saying about the results from

2717
02:41:05,160 --> 02:41:10,080
Speaker 1: a body scan that Robinson participated in. Hey Kim Robinson,

2718
02:41:10,240 --> 02:41:13,320
Speaker 1: known as Rapper Kisho, stood before a judge in court

2719
02:41:13,400 --> 02:41:18,920
Speaker 1: on Thursday Mars Robinson. He pleaded not guilty to his

2720
02:41:19,040 --> 02:41:21,840
Speaker 1: two different first degree murder charges. As a gang member,

2721
02:41:22,200 --> 02:41:24,720
Speaker 1: he's accused him at twenty twenty shooting death of Charles

2722
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:27,720
Speaker 1: McCormick and the twenty nineteen death of sixteen year old

2723
02:41:27,760 --> 02:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Adrian Gayner, whose nickname is Bibbie. Robinson's attorney told the

2724
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:34,520
Speaker 1: judge they received the results from his body scan that

2725
02:41:34,680 --> 02:41:37,760
Speaker 1: was requested by the state. He says it showed Robinson

2726
02:41:37,840 --> 02:41:46,160
Speaker 1: could not be excluded from the McCormick murder. Robinson's attorneys

2727
02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:48,480
Speaker 1: believe he does not match the description of the shooter

2728
02:41:48,600 --> 02:41:51,680
Speaker 1: seen in this photo. Record show. McCormick was shot and

2729
02:41:51,800 --> 02:41:54,520
Speaker 1: killed at a shopping center off Merrill Road in January

2730
02:41:54,600 --> 02:41:59,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Investigators say a witnesses dashcam video recorded the murder.

2731
02:41:59,360 --> 02:42:02,640
Speaker 1: According to State, the video shows a person running towards

2732
02:42:02,720 --> 02:42:06,720
Speaker 1: McCormick with an assault rifle shoots him repeatedly. Killing him.

2733
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:10,680
Speaker 1: The shooter's face is not seen on video record show

2734
02:42:10,760 --> 02:42:14,279
Speaker 1: Hakim Robinson's data from the body scan was then compared

2735
02:42:14,320 --> 02:42:17,039
Speaker 1: to the data from the dashcam video. The state says

2736
02:42:17,080 --> 02:42:20,440
Speaker 1: the body scan would mathematically determine the actual height of

2737
02:42:20,480 --> 02:42:24,440
Speaker 1: the shooter. Robinson's attorney sit Neews for Jack's a statement saying,

2738
02:42:24,879 --> 02:42:28,359
Speaker 1: mister Robinson was precisely scanned with blazers from all angles.

2739
02:42:28,680 --> 02:42:31,600
Speaker 1: Months were spent doing complicated math to render the dense,

2740
02:42:31,680 --> 02:42:35,959
Speaker 1: fifty one page report. The result mister Robinson can't be excluded,

2741
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:40,120
Speaker 1: which is far different than a finding that he's the shooter. Interestingly,

2742
02:42:40,320 --> 02:42:45,160
Speaker 1: the report purposefully avoided certain simpler and depositive comparisons, like

2743
02:42:45,280 --> 02:42:48,480
Speaker 1: the shooter's tiny feet compared to mister Robinson's huge size

2744
02:42:48,520 --> 02:42:51,200
Speaker 1: twelve feet. This wasn't a search for the truth by

2745
02:42:51,240 --> 02:42:54,000
Speaker 1: the government. It was an attempt to fix their case.

2746
02:42:54,320 --> 02:42:58,080
Speaker 1: Two eyewitnesses describe the shooter as short and skinny using

2747
02:42:58,160 --> 02:43:02,040
Speaker 1: fancy scientific evidence. You don't need lasers and calculators, just

2748
02:43:02,200 --> 02:43:05,000
Speaker 1: two eyes to see that mister Robinson is all around

2749
02:43:05,080 --> 02:43:08,480
Speaker 1: bigger and taller than the shooter. Corey po Channel for

2750
02:43:09,040 --> 02:43:12,920
Speaker 1: the local station. The state has stated previously they feel

2751
02:43:12,959 --> 02:43:15,480
Speaker 1: there's enough evidence to convict a team. Robin said, we

2752
02:43:15,520 --> 02:43:18,280
Speaker 1: also have requested the official body scanned results from the state,

2753
02:43:18,560 --> 02:43:21,280
Speaker 1: but we haven't received them yet. Robinson's next court date

2754
02:43:21,520 --> 02:43:25,119
Speaker 1: April the twenty first, and so that was just kind

2755
02:43:25,160 --> 02:43:29,000
Speaker 1: of give you some framework or the cases. It's also

2756
02:43:29,160 --> 02:43:31,520
Speaker 1: involved in a drive by shooting with his father, So

2757
02:43:31,640 --> 02:43:34,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to cite why the father was even involved.

2758
02:43:34,360 --> 02:43:36,680
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people may not know. Okay,

2759
02:43:36,760 --> 02:43:40,120
Speaker 1: so nor how to father even get involved, how to

2760
02:43:40,200 --> 02:43:43,120
Speaker 1: father get locked up on some of these cases. And

2761
02:43:43,240 --> 02:43:46,160
Speaker 1: I'll let the local news explain why. But again, pay

2762
02:43:46,200 --> 02:43:50,040
Speaker 1: attention to what's happening. He's involved with two attempted murders

2763
02:43:50,280 --> 02:43:55,160
Speaker 1: or two murders first degree, and then this situation. Now

2764
02:43:55,240 --> 02:43:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this situation is a part of

2765
02:43:57,320 --> 02:44:01,320
Speaker 1: those two or how it inter nix. But I need

2766
02:44:01,400 --> 02:44:05,080
Speaker 1: people to understand that pressia bus pipes, but it also

2767
02:44:05,240 --> 02:44:10,080
Speaker 1: make diamonds. This pay attention was taken place. Developing now

2768
02:44:10,280 --> 02:44:12,720
Speaker 1: a father and son have been arrested in connection with

2769
02:44:12,800 --> 02:44:15,840
Speaker 1: a deadly shooting at an Arlington shopping center. Twenty one

2770
02:44:15,920 --> 02:44:18,720
Speaker 1: year old Hakim Robinson and his father, forty nine year

2771
02:44:18,720 --> 02:44:22,080
Speaker 1: old Abduel Robinson are both in the Duval County jail.

2772
02:44:22,520 --> 02:44:25,760
Speaker 1: Akim Robinson is charged with second degree murder and Abduel

2773
02:44:25,920 --> 02:44:29,320
Speaker 1: is charged with accessory after the fact. Investigators believe the

2774
02:44:29,360 --> 02:44:31,200
Speaker 1: two are involved in the shooting death of a man

2775
02:44:31,280 --> 02:44:34,080
Speaker 1: at a shopping center on Merrill Road back in January

2776
02:44:34,520 --> 02:44:36,800
Speaker 1: that led to a police chase and man hunt in

2777
02:44:36,879 --> 02:44:40,280
Speaker 1: a nearby neighborhood. News for Jackson Putter Corley Peels joining

2778
02:44:40,360 --> 02:44:42,480
Speaker 1: us Live Corley, what else do we know about this

2779
02:44:42,560 --> 02:44:47,960
Speaker 1: father and son? Sources tell us that Hakim Robinson is

2780
02:44:48,080 --> 02:44:52,320
Speaker 1: known as a local rapper named KSO. At this time,

2781
02:44:52,400 --> 02:44:55,600
Speaker 1: it's unclear what he and his father's rolds were in

2782
02:44:55,800 --> 02:44:57,800
Speaker 1: that deadly shooting, but our news for Jack's crime is

2783
02:44:57,840 --> 02:45:01,640
Speaker 1: Safety expert Ken Jefferson says it's not unusual for fathers

2784
02:45:01,680 --> 02:45:06,480
Speaker 1: and sons to commit crimes together. In January, surveillance video

2785
02:45:06,640 --> 02:45:10,600
Speaker 1: captured two men running through a backyard jumping a fence

2786
02:45:10,879 --> 02:45:14,160
Speaker 1: during a police chase following a deadly shooting at a

2787
02:45:14,200 --> 02:45:18,359
Speaker 1: shopping center on Mirror Road. Eight months later, JSO announced

2788
02:45:18,400 --> 02:45:21,760
Speaker 1: twenty one year old Hakim Robinson is charged with second

2789
02:45:21,800 --> 02:45:25,039
Speaker 1: degree murder and his father, forty nine year old Abdul

2790
02:45:25,160 --> 02:45:29,320
Speaker 1: Robinson is charged with accessory after the fact in connection

2791
02:45:29,480 --> 02:45:32,760
Speaker 1: to that deadly shooting. News for Jack's crime and safety

2792
02:45:32,840 --> 02:45:36,720
Speaker 1: expert Kim Jefferson says father and sons accused of committing

2793
02:45:36,800 --> 02:45:49,119
Speaker 1: crimes together isn't new. Sources confirmed to News for Jack's.

2794
02:45:49,160 --> 02:45:53,039
Speaker 1: Hakim Robinson is a local rapper named KSO. He became

2795
02:45:53,080 --> 02:45:55,440
Speaker 1: a part of a News for Jack's story last year

2796
02:45:55,760 --> 02:45:59,880
Speaker 1: for his controversial album cover that featured photos of murder victims.

2797
02:46:00,360 --> 02:46:02,440
Speaker 1: A mother of one of the victims told us the

2798
02:46:02,560 --> 02:46:04,960
Speaker 1: photo of her son was in spite of his death

2799
02:46:05,240 --> 02:46:09,200
Speaker 1: and not a memorial. Jefferson says Robinson's music, videos and

2800
02:46:09,440 --> 02:46:12,480
Speaker 1: lyrics could help show investigators what he's been up to

2801
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:19,800
Speaker 1: Investigators curiosity. I asked you one, why he would continue

2802
02:46:19,840 --> 02:46:28,400
Speaker 1: to do the singing? Two? What is there? Sources tell

2803
02:46:28,480 --> 02:46:31,360
Speaker 1: News for Jackson some of the lyrics and Kso's music

2804
02:46:31,520 --> 02:46:35,080
Speaker 1: reference gangs and violence. At this time, police have not

2805
02:46:35,280 --> 02:46:39,400
Speaker 1: said if that deadly shooting was related to a gang.

2806
02:46:39,800 --> 02:46:43,920
Speaker 1: Reporting lie from JSO Corlely pl Channel four, the local

2807
02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:48,680
Speaker 1: station Corly thanks a third man, Dominique Barner, is also

2808
02:46:48,879 --> 02:46:51,320
Speaker 1: charged with second degree murder in the January shooting on

2809
02:46:51,400 --> 02:46:54,720
Speaker 1: Meryl Road. News for Jack's learned today Barner is also

2810
02:46:54,920 --> 02:46:57,760
Speaker 1: charged with second degree murder in the shooting death of

2811
02:46:57,840 --> 02:47:01,200
Speaker 1: a bicyclist on Emerson Street line last year. And so

2812
02:47:01,360 --> 02:47:04,400
Speaker 1: when I hid these things, I'm not sure I hid

2813
02:47:04,400 --> 02:47:07,720
Speaker 1: any real concrete evidence. I'm not hearing a weapon was found,

2814
02:47:07,800 --> 02:47:11,800
Speaker 1: a DNA was found. I'm hearing that cameras caught people

2815
02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:16,320
Speaker 1: running through without their faces. I'm hearing that eight months

2816
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:19,080
Speaker 1: later the arrest was made. Like I'm hearing certain things.

2817
02:47:19,120 --> 02:47:21,440
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure the strength of the case, but

2818
02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:24,120
Speaker 1: i do know that the fall that's took a turn

2819
02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:29,039
Speaker 1: to cooperate against his son. Again, let's let the local

2820
02:47:29,120 --> 02:47:33,680
Speaker 1: news explain what's going on. But more breaking news this afternoon,

2821
02:47:33,760 --> 02:47:38,160
Speaker 1: the father of Jacksonville rapper Caso will testify against his

2822
02:47:38,240 --> 02:47:41,360
Speaker 1: own son in a very high profile murder trial. This

2823
02:47:41,480 --> 02:47:45,199
Speaker 1: according to brand new court records first reported by First

2824
02:47:45,240 --> 02:47:47,920
Speaker 1: Coach News on Your Sides and Schindler broke the story

2825
02:47:48,120 --> 02:47:51,000
Speaker 1: just a short while ago and joins us from the newsroom.

2826
02:47:51,280 --> 02:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Now and this is a major development in a high

2827
02:47:53,600 --> 02:47:57,199
Speaker 1: profile murder case. Yeah, that's right, Keitha. I mean, anytime

2828
02:47:57,240 --> 02:47:59,720
Speaker 1: you have one family member testifying against another, that's a

2829
02:47:59,760 --> 02:48:01,600
Speaker 1: big deal. But in this case, in addition to being

2830
02:48:01,680 --> 02:48:04,600
Speaker 1: father and son, both are reputed members of a local

2831
02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:07,520
Speaker 1: gang that's typically ruled by the code of silence. Now,

2832
02:48:07,560 --> 02:48:09,800
Speaker 1: according to court records, the fifty one year old Abdul

2833
02:48:09,920 --> 02:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Robinson's senior has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in a

2834
02:48:14,240 --> 02:48:16,879
Speaker 1: high profile murder case in which both of his sons

2835
02:48:16,959 --> 02:48:21,080
Speaker 1: are charged. Prosecutors say that in January twenty twenty, Hakim Robinson,

2836
02:48:21,160 --> 02:48:25,120
Speaker 1: who performs under the name Keso, murdered Charles McCormick, who

2837
02:48:25,120 --> 02:48:28,360
Speaker 1: went by the name lil Buck. Robinson Senior was charged

2838
02:48:28,400 --> 02:48:30,760
Speaker 1: as an accessory after the fact in that crime and

2839
02:48:30,879 --> 02:48:33,600
Speaker 1: faced his own murder charge in a separate case. He

2840
02:48:33,720 --> 02:48:36,760
Speaker 1: faces thirty years to life, but if convicted, his cooperation

2841
02:48:36,840 --> 02:48:40,000
Speaker 1: with prosecutors could play a role at sentencing. Caso has

2842
02:48:40,000 --> 02:48:43,240
Speaker 1: helped popularize the genre known as murder raps, celebrating the

2843
02:48:43,320 --> 02:48:46,280
Speaker 1: violent deaths of gang rivals. He's also accused of the

2844
02:48:46,360 --> 02:48:50,240
Speaker 1: murder of Adrian Gainer aka Bibbie, whose name appears in

2845
02:48:50,320 --> 02:48:53,600
Speaker 1: the viral music video who I Smoke. Police and prosecutors

2846
02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:56,040
Speaker 1: say all three Robinson's are members of the gang known

2847
02:48:56,080 --> 02:48:59,440
Speaker 1: as atk or Ace's Top Killers. Now Kim Robinson has

2848
02:48:59,440 --> 02:49:02,720
Speaker 1: pleaded not guilty. Jail records show that his dad has

2849
02:49:02,760 --> 02:49:05,200
Speaker 1: been moved out of the Duba County jail, presumably for

2850
02:49:05,320 --> 02:49:08,120
Speaker 1: his safety. So the first question you asked yourself is

2851
02:49:08,200 --> 02:49:10,680
Speaker 1: what kind of environment did you come from that your

2852
02:49:10,760 --> 02:49:15,160
Speaker 1: son is involved in those things? And then you involved

2853
02:49:15,240 --> 02:49:18,080
Speaker 1: yourself with the other side of it. And that's the

2854
02:49:18,200 --> 02:49:20,959
Speaker 1: thing about the street could have had me so gone, man,

2855
02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:24,880
Speaker 1: I would have done time for people that I'm not

2856
02:49:25,080 --> 02:49:27,480
Speaker 1: sure because as I as I now get old and

2857
02:49:27,640 --> 02:49:33,160
Speaker 1: see the game break down, it's like, Yo, thank you God,

2858
02:49:34,280 --> 02:49:36,959
Speaker 1: because boy, I'd have been on one of them situations

2859
02:49:38,400 --> 02:49:40,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't have I would have. I would have went

2860
02:49:40,400 --> 02:49:43,720
Speaker 1: the other way. I would have kept it real. I

2861
02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:46,240
Speaker 1: would have stuck to the street code and when it done,

2862
02:49:46,280 --> 02:49:48,520
Speaker 1: the rest of my life away from people that loved

2863
02:49:48,640 --> 02:49:52,560
Speaker 1: me about things that probably I shouldn't have been involved

2864
02:49:52,640 --> 02:49:56,240
Speaker 1: with or I probably had limited involvement in. When I

2865
02:49:56,320 --> 02:49:58,840
Speaker 1: look at this, I'm like, Yo, they don't ain't nobody

2866
02:49:58,920 --> 02:50:00,959
Speaker 1: sticking back. That's why I of my kids don't let

2867
02:50:01,040 --> 02:50:03,160
Speaker 1: them trick you. Many dudes ain't sticking by that. And

2868
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:05,520
Speaker 1: then if they is, if you do got one in

2869
02:50:05,600 --> 02:50:08,280
Speaker 1: your click, that is, it's a bunch of them that ain't.

2870
02:50:09,680 --> 02:50:12,000
Speaker 1: So the more people in your click, the more chances

2871
02:50:12,160 --> 02:50:14,720
Speaker 1: you give yourself for somebody not being right. So just

2872
02:50:14,840 --> 02:50:17,160
Speaker 1: stay away from it. Go the other way. It's pleasant

2873
02:50:17,200 --> 02:50:19,199
Speaker 1: on the other side. It's money on the other side.

2874
02:50:19,240 --> 02:50:21,800
Speaker 1: There's women on the other Everything on this side is

2875
02:50:21,840 --> 02:50:25,080
Speaker 1: on that side, and you got this kind of blood

2876
02:50:25,160 --> 02:50:27,240
Speaker 1: and so they can't deny what you are. You're gonna

2877
02:50:27,280 --> 02:50:29,440
Speaker 1: be all right, you know what I'm saying. But don't

2878
02:50:29,480 --> 02:50:32,200
Speaker 1: bite that apple and get caught up in that other side, man,

2879
02:50:32,240 --> 02:50:34,680
Speaker 1: because it's it's a loop, it's a it's a it's

2880
02:50:34,720 --> 02:50:36,640
Speaker 1: a it's a hell of a little maze going on

2881
02:50:37,400 --> 02:50:40,120
Speaker 1: to where a father and son end up in situations

2882
02:50:40,160 --> 02:50:43,280
Speaker 1: and posters stand on rules that the father can't even

2883
02:50:43,360 --> 02:50:47,160
Speaker 1: lead by example because the pressure became too much. Picture

2884
02:50:47,240 --> 02:50:50,560
Speaker 1: being told on by the same probably told you coming up.

2885
02:50:50,680 --> 02:50:54,560
Speaker 1: Don't tell on nobody, don't be a talented, don't snitch,

2886
02:50:54,680 --> 02:50:58,160
Speaker 1: don't this, don't that picture that they've now provided you, paperwork,

2887
02:50:58,240 --> 02:51:02,560
Speaker 1: that demand that birthed you. It's about to cooperate against you.

2888
02:51:05,080 --> 02:51:07,480
Speaker 1: Ask yourself why he done that. Let's let's read what

2889
02:51:07,640 --> 02:51:09,760
Speaker 1: he what he tweeted, because he ain't quiet about it.

2890
02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:11,840
Speaker 1: He said something about it. Let's read what he tweeted.

2891
02:51:11,879 --> 02:51:16,160
Speaker 1: They so dads tweets. If it was me and my

2892
02:51:16,360 --> 02:51:19,879
Speaker 1: daddy and he puts RPD his father in a situation

2893
02:51:20,000 --> 02:51:22,680
Speaker 1: like this, I would have been free my daddy a

2894
02:51:22,760 --> 02:51:26,280
Speaker 1: long time ago, no matter what my consequences would have been,

2895
02:51:26,840 --> 02:51:30,920
Speaker 1: no justification needed, especially if he's a good slash great daddy.

2896
02:51:31,280 --> 02:51:34,160
Speaker 1: He put in parenna, seize that part he could do.

2897
02:51:34,440 --> 02:51:36,280
Speaker 1: He could do more for me out of jail than

2898
02:51:36,320 --> 02:51:39,600
Speaker 1: in jail slash prison. Who leaves that daddy in jail?

2899
02:51:39,680 --> 02:51:43,279
Speaker 1: The rod question mark, especially when you know he innocent.

2900
02:51:44,440 --> 02:51:46,520
Speaker 1: I would have been stood up and saying, my dad

2901
02:51:46,640 --> 02:51:50,200
Speaker 1: ain't got a thing to do with nothing. You out

2902
02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:52,600
Speaker 1: in the free world talk there, talking to his time

2903
02:51:52,680 --> 02:51:56,680
Speaker 1: to walk there, walk facing that life sentence. Hashtag free

2904
02:51:56,800 --> 02:52:00,440
Speaker 1: good slash great dads hashtag y'all know y'all never do.

2905
02:52:00,920 --> 02:52:03,480
Speaker 1: And so after that, Boosty tweeted him like, yo, bro,

2906
02:52:03,560 --> 02:52:06,560
Speaker 1: look at your son pictures. Bro, don't do that to

2907
02:52:06,720 --> 02:52:10,359
Speaker 1: your son. Man, it's your little boy. But he's speaking

2908
02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:13,920
Speaker 1: over his head when he's talking like that, because when

2909
02:52:13,959 --> 02:52:16,120
Speaker 1: the pressure get on, some people think the rules no

2910
02:52:16,240 --> 02:52:19,000
Speaker 1: longer apply. And a lot of the street guys, I

2911
02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:22,920
Speaker 1: know they do that the rules apply to everybody except

2912
02:52:23,000 --> 02:52:25,760
Speaker 1: them when they in that situation, you know what I mean.

2913
02:52:25,879 --> 02:52:28,520
Speaker 1: So you know again I think you gotta be careful

2914
02:52:28,600 --> 02:52:34,000
Speaker 1: how you surround yourself with this street atmosphere and adopted

2915
02:52:34,080 --> 02:52:36,600
Speaker 1: in a way. Because ever thenly the youngster standing on it,

2916
02:52:36,720 --> 02:52:38,879
Speaker 1: he ain't saying none. He going to court, He ain't

2917
02:52:38,920 --> 02:52:42,320
Speaker 1: really saying nothing. The daddy, you can't just don't say nothing.

2918
02:52:42,400 --> 02:52:44,520
Speaker 1: To sit down for a second, don't say nothing. They

2919
02:52:44,520 --> 02:52:48,120
Speaker 1: ain't really got nothing, just chilled. N I ain't chilling.

2920
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:51,720
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of him. So let the streets know,

2921
02:52:51,959 --> 02:52:54,520
Speaker 1: let everybody know, ain't nobody off limits when it comes

2922
02:52:54,520 --> 02:52:57,720
Speaker 1: to trying to get that freedom back. The dude doing

2923
02:52:57,760 --> 02:52:59,920
Speaker 1: anything to get that freedom back. Don't let them trick.

2924
02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:02,880
Speaker 1: It's only a few of them that's gonna stand on

2925
02:53:02,959 --> 02:53:05,160
Speaker 1: that business. If you got a few of the Minute

2926
02:53:05,160 --> 02:53:07,480
Speaker 1: and your Click that's doing that, you got to salute them.

2927
02:53:07,560 --> 02:53:09,920
Speaker 1: But a lot of them gonna fold when that pressure come.

2928
02:53:10,480 --> 02:53:13,480
Speaker 1: That's just how I go, and them gonna be holding

2929
02:53:13,480 --> 02:53:16,680
Speaker 1: you're accountable, not the fold, and you got to know

2930
02:53:16,800 --> 02:53:19,440
Speaker 1: the difference. I think it's funny how they're using lyrics

2931
02:53:19,480 --> 02:53:22,920
Speaker 1: against this young man, So we'll speak about lyrics against

2932
02:53:23,040 --> 02:53:26,199
Speaker 1: him and Young Thug. We'll do a Young Thug case update.

2933
02:53:26,640 --> 02:53:29,440
Speaker 1: For those of you are aware, Thug has been in jail.

2934
02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:33,600
Speaker 1: He got picked up on a rico a few weeks ago.

2935
02:53:34,200 --> 02:53:37,520
Speaker 1: Him and a couple of his labelmates gonna be in

2936
02:53:37,600 --> 02:53:40,440
Speaker 1: one of those people. They face a lot of time

2937
02:53:40,560 --> 02:53:42,840
Speaker 1: in jail when they win and got Thug seven new

2938
02:53:42,920 --> 02:53:45,480
Speaker 1: Felonis because there was some guns in the house allegedly

2939
02:53:45,520 --> 02:53:48,680
Speaker 1: according to the State DA. So a lot's happening with

2940
02:53:48,840 --> 02:53:52,600
Speaker 1: the case. They also file some paperwork to get the

2941
02:53:52,680 --> 02:53:54,760
Speaker 1: lawyer off the case, saying that he may be a

2942
02:53:54,879 --> 02:53:58,640
Speaker 1: potential witness, and also that he has called in before

2943
02:53:59,400 --> 02:54:02,400
Speaker 1: and said that one of his clients have committed a

2944
02:54:02,480 --> 02:54:06,000
Speaker 1: crime which is involved in this reco charge. So all

2945
02:54:06,080 --> 02:54:09,000
Speaker 1: these things being on the table, Thug ain't gonna have

2946
02:54:09,160 --> 02:54:12,440
Speaker 1: both tried to go and get barn and being unsuccessful

2947
02:54:12,920 --> 02:54:15,480
Speaker 1: in the attempt to get back on the streets to

2948
02:54:15,560 --> 02:54:19,280
Speaker 1: fight the charge. Gunnar's the last person that just went

2949
02:54:19,400 --> 02:54:22,400
Speaker 1: up for barn. They denied Gunnar's barn, and again I

2950
02:54:22,520 --> 02:54:24,880
Speaker 1: want to be clear on his involvement according to what

2951
02:54:25,000 --> 02:54:28,199
Speaker 1: I've read so far as just on two counts, most

2952
02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:31,240
Speaker 1: of those counts being lyrics and having a chain. The

2953
02:54:31,400 --> 02:54:33,800
Speaker 1: lyrics thing is something that I just think needs to

2954
02:54:33,879 --> 02:54:36,520
Speaker 1: be protected, and I don't think we're loud enough about

2955
02:54:36,560 --> 02:54:39,920
Speaker 1: it into it's in our backyard. I think we need

2956
02:54:40,000 --> 02:54:43,519
Speaker 1: to have funding fund set to the side for lesignation

2957
02:54:43,920 --> 02:54:46,840
Speaker 1: to be passed to be able to protect those that

2958
02:54:47,280 --> 02:54:50,600
Speaker 1: make arn't in the hip hop space. But Gunna was

2959
02:54:50,640 --> 02:54:53,720
Speaker 1: denied and they put him out to January twenty twenty three.

2960
02:54:53,800 --> 02:54:56,320
Speaker 1: They're ready to go to trial. Looks like the status

2961
02:54:56,840 --> 02:54:59,560
Speaker 1: battling any of these guys getting out because they know

2962
02:54:59,680 --> 02:55:03,320
Speaker 1: the power hour of a rich individual with the kind

2963
02:55:03,360 --> 02:55:06,800
Speaker 1: of lawyer team that they have being on the outside

2964
02:55:06,879 --> 02:55:11,640
Speaker 1: trying to fight those charges. When they denied Gonna, they

2965
02:55:11,760 --> 02:55:14,880
Speaker 1: played lyrics. They played lyrics in which he was talking

2966
02:55:14,920 --> 02:55:17,520
Speaker 1: to the judge him and Thug was saying certain things

2967
02:55:17,600 --> 02:55:20,480
Speaker 1: and songs, and they told the judge that they don't

2968
02:55:20,520 --> 02:55:24,520
Speaker 1: want them out because they would further the gangs involvement

2969
02:55:24,600 --> 02:55:27,959
Speaker 1: in certain things. And they said something that was really interesting.

2970
02:55:28,920 --> 02:55:33,240
Speaker 1: They said that the greatest fear it's witness tampering. The

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02:55:33,320 --> 03:00:14,120
Speaker 1: first thing I said is what atttttttt