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<v Speaker 1>I miss the green.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, I'm already upset. When I find my ball

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<v Speaker 2>in the bunker, I'm really upset. And when I find

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<v Speaker 2>my ball in arid Egg Friday Egg, the dread Frida Egg,

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<v Speaker 2>Friday Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run.

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<v Speaker 1>Off of the course.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 3>Frida Egg Podcast. Tonight. I am joined by Brendan Poor

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<v Speaker 3>at the Vespian Nation and Sean Martin of the PGA

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<v Speaker 3>Tour as we get ready for this year's Players Championship. Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>welcome on, Thanks for having.

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<v Speaker 1>Me Andy, thanks for having us on again. Like last

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<v Speaker 1>time we uh connected, it was in real life in Augusta,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we're here. Here we are a month later

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<v Speaker 1>with even bigger event on tap.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the biggest event in golf, best field and golf

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<v Speaker 3>the Players.

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<v Speaker 2>Brendon went collared shirt for the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just just a fluke. I don't know, walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what I had on all day.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been four weeks since the Masters. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that part of the schedule just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a slog, not a ton of buzz

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<v Speaker 3>and golf. What have you guys taken away? You've been

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<v Speaker 3>You've been watching a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think, like the Masters will like it's this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a complaint about my job. My job is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Masters and the weeks leading into the Masters

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<v Speaker 1>are like prepping for like a law school final or

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<v Speaker 1>just the final, like a really hard final. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyable like that week, but once you're done, you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unploy. You don't think about whatever, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You were just studying and writing and caring about and

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<v Speaker 1>reading and watching. And from my perspective, I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's my job. I watched the golf and I like

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<v Speaker 1>follow and know what's going on, but it's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you kind of just decompress and let go

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<v Speaker 1>and Satoshi Kadira Kodira, Andrew Landry and then like the

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<v Speaker 1>piercy horse, will kind of run didn't exactly too much

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of pull you back in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree. And even with this new team format,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I can't get into the Zurich

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<v Speaker 3>even with the team format, I honestly think that it's

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<v Speaker 3>because the golf course is so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, I'm surprised if that take on a pee

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<v Speaker 2>die course.

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<v Speaker 1>You tried to argue, I've tried to make that argument.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, it's not at bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it crystallized. You know, as I went for

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<v Speaker 3>a run.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good stretch. It's a good stretch for dietficiados

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<v Speaker 2>with harbortownc Louisiana, TPC Sawgrass.

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<v Speaker 3>I went for a run this afternoon and I was

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<v Speaker 3>honestly thinking. I was listening to no laying up podcasts

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<v Speaker 3>and I heard Tommy Fleetwood refer to like a string

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<v Speaker 3>of PGA Tour events and he said Riviera, And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought about it. I go, like the really good events

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<v Speaker 3>we refer to as like the have like a course

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<v Speaker 3>that's really good, and a lot of times the tournament

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<v Speaker 3>got just called the course like Riviera, like Harbor Town,

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<v Speaker 3>and like nobody is saying like TPC Los Colinas like

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<v Speaker 3>when I was there or whatever it was. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>this week, this week's event, the TPC Louisiana. Everyone says

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<v Speaker 3>this with the Zurich, you know, colonials the same way Colonials.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had always had trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>In that because yeah, it's I'm curious where I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know where you stay with Pete Dye's catalog right now,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was very surprised by the tenor of your

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<v Speaker 2>Black Wolf Run and Whistling Straight tweets this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Pete Dye. I think Pete Dye was an intro.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so important in architecture and I think he

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<v Speaker 3>really gets strategy. But like, yeah, Whistling Straits offended me yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so slow. It was just it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>And I, uh, black Wolf Run. I like Black Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>Run a lot more. Black Wolf Run's way more natural.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think just like the nature of designing this golf

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<v Speaker 3>course for a resort, like and I know that they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted major championships, but just because you want a major

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<v Speaker 3>championship doesn't mean your golf course needs to be completely

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<v Speaker 3>unplayable for everybody. Like David Kidd on my podcast said,

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<v Speaker 3>Oakmont is the most playable golf course in the world

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<v Speaker 3>for an eighteen handicap. There's no force. Carries are readily

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<v Speaker 3>available if you want to make bogies like at Whistling Straights.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so hard for like a regular golfer. It

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<v Speaker 3>is insane to be And that's why I had a minimum,

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<v Speaker 3>A good based round takes five hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never played whistling straights, but I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any desire to. It just looks so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I really just say, we're really on brand here. About

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<v Speaker 1>four minutes in the pod and we're talking about black

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<v Speaker 1>Quell wrong the Players Championship preview.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Chris coach, we could we could go back to

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<v Speaker 2>we could go back to Jenny Board and to Women's

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<v Speaker 2>Am Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just say one more thing. So my buddy

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<v Speaker 3>set this whole thing up, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll play. You know, I didn't set this up. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking at the t sheet in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>But while I was driving up and I saw six

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<v Speaker 3>hours between our tee times two courses, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are we going to do? Get like a big

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<v Speaker 3>lunch like that was like. And sure enough, we like

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<v Speaker 3>got off the course and they're like, we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>late for our tea time because it took so long

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<v Speaker 3>to play like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was what, what was it a Sunday Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon morning.

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<v Speaker 3>We played it like nine on a Sunday and it

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<v Speaker 3>took five and a half hours. Yes, but whatever scene

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<v Speaker 3>all right, moving on to a better Uh, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's a it's a. Both are very

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<v Speaker 3>good championship tests of golf. But getting back to Sawgrass

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<v Speaker 3>in the last couple of weeks, so we returned to

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<v Speaker 3>the site of the big Woo Woo Sea Wou Camps

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<v Speaker 3>triumph last year. You guys see a repeat happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Is uh is Sea Wou to you as Hideki is

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I feel like you're you're you're driving the

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<v Speaker 2>Seawou bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I love Seawoo. I watched him last year. I

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<v Speaker 3>fell in love with like his golf game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like the guy's twenty one years old and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>speak English, and he's won twice, and he was the

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<v Speaker 3>youngest player ever to get his PG eight Tour card.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he had to wait to play in events because

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<v Speaker 3>he was too young to play on the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like it's forgotten, yeah, especially because it was

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he won on the Web Tour at age eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>He won on the PGA Tour at nineteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>or no, I guess twenty and twenty one. So he

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<v Speaker 3>won on the Web when he was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I saw I think I saw

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<v Speaker 1>see Will was like plus ten thousand to win to repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is like a really really hard venue

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<v Speaker 1>to kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of back it up, and no one has ever repeated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not even win. But I'm talking about content. Sergio

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be pretty consistent. There are a couple others,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, it's pretty hard to kind of make noise

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<v Speaker 1>two years, especially after he won. He got all those obligations,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like give him the club to the clubhouse

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<v Speaker 1>and being kind of the face of the tournament and

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<v Speaker 1>the ads and signing all all the autographs, kissing the babies.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, see who's going to be that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of brand man this year. But yeah, it's hard to repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to even contend in a comeback.

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<v Speaker 2>But he chipped and putted like a demon. I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the stats. He he hit nineteen greens on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend, he made one bogie, He had forty nine putts,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was I mean, he was gonna be bound

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<v Speaker 2>from everywhere. It was insane.

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<v Speaker 3>It was incredible. I mean, he was he was so good.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean he's had a good year this year.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had He's got three top tens already this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's turning in the right direction. He's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>last year right forward the players he'd started working Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Foley and that was the story. Now he's working with

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Getson and Josh Gregory. He's got two guys he's

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<v Speaker 2>working with, and so it seems to be working though.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, before Harvardtown he was second to last this

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<v Speaker 2>year in strokes game putting. So the fact that he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna even make cuts doing that, it's pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>That say that again, who's he go with?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Andrew gets In? Who works with?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, gotcha? And Josh Gregory and

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Gregory the performance coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, short game performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that article on pjhor dot com right

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<v Speaker 2>now details all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that by you?

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<v Speaker 2>That is by myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like you're here your beat, You're all over that.

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<v Speaker 3>Him and Phil are trading secrets, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, like, given like what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, he's had like a pretty good year comparatively

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<v Speaker 1>the last year. I mean, he had done very little

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<v Speaker 1>and was hurt, but like plus ten thousands seems a

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<v Speaker 1>little lot of whack, you know, for the defunding champ

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<v Speaker 1>you just figure. I mean, I can't imagine there's a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of public money rushing in on it, but the

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<v Speaker 1>odds just seemed a little off for the funding chair

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy who's had a good year.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, I just don't think. I don't think anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only five what is it five guys Sean that

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<v Speaker 3>won five.

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<v Speaker 2>That yeah, and for him had to wait ten years

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<v Speaker 2>or more between wins. Only Steve Elkington was six years

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<v Speaker 2>between wings. I don't know what that means or what

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<v Speaker 2>that says. But not many guys win twice. When they do,

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty far spaced out.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those guys is the big cat, Tiger Waentz.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you what do you guys expect from him

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<v Speaker 3>this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this he playing?

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<v Speaker 2>I I think he'll be okay, only cause he's hitting

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<v Speaker 2>it well enough. He was top twenty strokes, gained off

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<v Speaker 2>the tee and approached the green. Last week he did

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<v Speaker 2>just horribly. You know. It's not, of course, we have

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<v Speaker 2>great memories or a great you know, great record for

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<v Speaker 2>he's won twice. But I mean for Tiger, that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know we're looking at probably like a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh place finish twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's yeah. I think he's hitting the ball well, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the iron play wasn't horrendous. Yesterday I heard

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<v Speaker 1>Pierre Costas on the broadcast This is well As Farga

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<v Speaker 1>something about like he'd only hit five or six balls

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<v Speaker 1>inside ten feet all week. But I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>his strokes game approached, Sharks gained overall TV Green was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Obviously, his putting was just horrible. Hopefully they

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<v Speaker 1>get him running. I would love to see the recreation

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<v Speaker 1>of that tobaccle in twenty was the twenty sixteen when

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<v Speaker 1>they lost the Greens and they were like glass couchers

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how they're frictionless. You put your putter down,

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<v Speaker 1>it would slide off. Yeah, the Duke crap. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to see that because we know Tiger just hates slow

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<v Speaker 1>Greens can't figure it out where they just like tricked

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<v Speaker 1>him up in him like glass again for Tiger.

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<v Speaker 2>That he got sixty seven that day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, your boyhead Decky is about to fall out

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<v Speaker 3>out of the top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, yeah it rough times, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Tiger. The thing I think with Tiger is like

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<v Speaker 3>he's the quintessential, like hasn't put it all together yet.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had like tournaments where he's putted it great, He's

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<v Speaker 3>had tournaments where he's chipped it, He's had tournaments where

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<v Speaker 3>he's hit his irons great. And now like last week

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<v Speaker 3>was the first tournament where he really drove it well.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you're coming back from a long layoff, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what golf is. It takes a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 3>get everything back and working together at once. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's I think this is all part of not

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<v Speaker 3>to take the seventy six ers. The process. We got

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<v Speaker 3>to trust the process here and we could be in

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<v Speaker 3>for a big week.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like this course for him, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>a big week soon from him where he wins. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he hasn't had a week where he did everything well yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It is good for him and that he can hit

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of two irons. And actually I pulled up

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<v Speaker 2>his record, I'm actually surprised. He has nine top twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fives and seventeen starts here five top ten, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually a little but even during his prime years of

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, two thousand, two thousand, and he went

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<v Speaker 2>to second and first, but after that he was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of elevens and twelves, And I mean those are

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<v Speaker 2>years when he's playing some pretty good golf. So I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a strong it's a solid record there, but for Tiger,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, anything less than a winner.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a relative scale for a venue he plays

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<v Speaker 1>like every single year, he just you expect it to

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<v Speaker 1>be d ral Firestone, right, or it's so weird, so

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<v Speaker 1>our kind of frame of reference is so out of whack, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't you know, it doesn't have that great record

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<v Speaker 1>here because he's only won it twice and we know

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<v Speaker 1>he's played it every year on the schedule, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget the ninety four US Sanitary either.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah s, why do you guys think he hasn't played

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<v Speaker 3>as well here as he has at other courses?

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<v Speaker 2>I think one reason is hard to play well here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you're always one swing away from

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<v Speaker 2>just ruining your week. That's definitely part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, I think that's you know, he did

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<v Speaker 1>get he was more wild off the tee obviously in

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of back half of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>And then let's more, guys, into it. So like when

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<v Speaker 2>he won in two thousand and one, right before he

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<v Speaker 2>finished the Tiger Slam at the Masters, he's playing in

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<v Speaker 2>the fund group with Jerry Kelly, So you're just playing

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<v Speaker 2>with a strong field. At a course they kind of

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<v Speaker 2>lets anyone who's playing well contain no matter they're playing style.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you have Tiger Woods, you have Jerry Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>staring Tiger Woods down eye to eye going to the

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<v Speaker 2>fun round. And so I think that too, just makes

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<v Speaker 2>it hard to There's just so many guys who can

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<v Speaker 2>win at this golf course. It doesn't really eliminate one

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<v Speaker 2>style of play, and that makes it harder to as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I completely agree with you, Sean. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't really favor one style of play. You look down

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<v Speaker 3>the list of winners and you got your ball strikers,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously with like Sergio Stenson, but then you also have

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<v Speaker 3>guys like you know, see Wu Kim who won only

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<v Speaker 3>hitting nineteen greens on the weekend because his short game

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<v Speaker 3>was good and he didn't make any big mistakes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Polter a fit runner up last year. He's not you

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<v Speaker 3>know long. He's a good onion player, a good potter,

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<v Speaker 3>but you got Jim Furika has been a runner up here.

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<v Speaker 3>You got all kinds of different players, I mean Fred Funk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's eclectic styles of play.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Phil. He won here and he has three

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<v Speaker 2>top tens and twenty four starts and he won in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty or two thousand and seven. He just switched to

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<v Speaker 2>Butcher and he's like, you know, I just I played

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<v Speaker 2>this really controlled fade. I didn't swing as far back

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<v Speaker 2>as I normally do. It's really wished to play more often.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course that lasted like a week and

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<v Speaker 2>then and then he went back to his old solid play.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like this guy has an epiphany to win

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<v Speaker 2>at a golf course as he plays horribly and just can't

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<v Speaker 2>stick with it long enough. You find something new two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks later to work on.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think we you know, I don't think there

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't been as many obscure winners, but there was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a run where people are like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you get a lot of fluky winners here. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's because the field is so deep and there

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<v Speaker 3>aren't any you know, amateurs or club pros or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>older past champions in the field.

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<v Speaker 2>The May winners list has been really strong. I think

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<v Speaker 2>some of the fluky years were the years that like

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<v Speaker 2>the rough got really long. In March.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say like since the move to it's

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<v Speaker 1>really been kind of a murderers row, mostly major champions,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, aside from Sea wou Ricky, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think like it's a lot of like legit guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are probably in the top ten in the world, close

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<v Speaker 1>to the top ten, you know, Sea Wu was the

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<v Speaker 1>first departure from that run. I think the switch to May,

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, because it's there are no AMBS club

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<v Speaker 1>pros anything like that. The masters. What I mean, once

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<v Speaker 1>you make the cut, there's it's not a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not you know you're going you're bound to get

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<v Speaker 1>four or five at the you know, inside the top

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen in the world kind of probably hanging around. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a smaller field and easier to get to get

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix there. Not easier, but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's there's less depth. I just think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get a guy that maybe the casual

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<v Speaker 1>fan has never heard of, or certainly in March, you

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<v Speaker 1>get a Stephen Ames or Fred Fahng. Players like that

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you know, are not the big names that

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<v Speaker 1>that the tour is promoting in a featured group nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's such a deep feel that those guys can

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<v Speaker 1>come out come and we all, we all as golf

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<v Speaker 1>nuts who watched this week the week aren't surprised. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if you're just tuning in because you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big event, you might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think there were a few years they grew

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<v Speaker 2>the rough out too thick, But I think ye March

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<v Speaker 2>March will be good. I think, but there were a

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<v Speaker 2>couple years they want to get a old too, Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>So what will that switch it from Bermuda to like

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<v Speaker 1>oversea it Raye.

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<v Speaker 2>Over Yeah, what do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Andy?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I don't think it's that big of a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I don't people look into it.

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<v Speaker 3>They put the grass so much. I really think it's

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<v Speaker 3>overstated in the sense like whoever plays will also going

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<v Speaker 3>to play well, obviously, Like I think with the Greens

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<v Speaker 3>it makes a bigger difference, but the greens are still

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<v Speaker 3>going to be Bermuda, you know, like Kevin Kissner on Bermuda,

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<v Speaker 3>Greens is always like a good pick. I think putting

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<v Speaker 3>on Bermuda is different, but they aren't gonna be changing

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<v Speaker 3>the grass on the greens that it will be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Formida rough is a challenge for some guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I think anyone can play Bent. I think Bent is

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<v Speaker 2>most guys know how to play that. But Bermuda is

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<v Speaker 2>definitely tricky ship out of do.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys think we'll get a winner inside the top

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<v Speaker 3>ten or outside the top ten this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Numbers would say outside, Yeah, I'm big on Bryson this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I am too huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm not even messing with him. I

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<v Speaker 2>em like a seven A joke for Brandon. This is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm big on Bryson.

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<v Speaker 3>I am too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a perfect course for him. He can hit those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stingers that he likes to hit. He's very cerebral.

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing really well. He made triple on his third hole,

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<v Speaker 2>a quill hollow and finished fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>He made a double and a triple at Harbortown and

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<v Speaker 3>finished second.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean the guy well thirty three. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>like three top fours in his last three starts, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it just seems it's a placement golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about, you know, strokes gain approach the green.

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<v Speaker 2>I just it feels very brisening.

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree he I believe he's a guy that's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna play well regularly at difficult golf courses. He hits

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<v Speaker 3>it really well. Like if you're gonna say there's one

0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.959
<v Speaker 3>weakness in his game, it's you know, on the and

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<v Speaker 3>around the greens. I don't like him trying to hit

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<v Speaker 3>shots with those single anth irons around the greens that

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<v Speaker 3>it's really awkward to watch. But I like, I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is a place where you know he can be

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<v Speaker 3>He's so like he can be so surgical when he's

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<v Speaker 3>on with like where he hits it and he's got

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<v Speaker 3>a game plan, he sticks to it, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's a guy that kind of understands how to play

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<v Speaker 3>proper golf. He's not a bomb and gaugery. He kills

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<v Speaker 3>it though. I mean, he's got all the skills. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he this is the perfect kind of setup for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Difficult golf horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteenth off the T seventeenth and stroskan approach the green

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<v Speaker 2>might as well. His book itt To be honest, he's

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<v Speaker 2>this is price is.

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<v Speaker 1>Weak when score looks like less. I don't know. Since

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<v Speaker 1>May it's always kind of around just in double double figures,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thirteen hunder.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that's that's interesting. The point I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to make a point that like, once he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the big number, he just becomes like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>freak and checks out and there, you know, freaks out

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But you know, we're talking about the doubles

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and triples and Quail and Harbor Town and still kind

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 1>of clawing his way back. That that's that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>runs against my you know, supposition that he he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>handle the big numbers all that well because it throws

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<v Speaker 1>off the calculation.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's hear it. You're the one guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>not on the Bryson train. What's your take.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't considered him yet. I mean, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing extremely well. But yeah, this is music to my ears.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to I'm into this more. I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It makes sense that you know, he would.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a rookie though, right it's his first first round.

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<v Speaker 3>First, he's a rookie nowhere. He's played He's played this

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<v Speaker 3>round more times than anybody in the field.

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<v Speaker 1>He did play, Yeah, he did play Augusta like forty

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<v Speaker 1>five times before he played it as an am, had

0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 1>more practice than like speak. Yeah, no, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. That would give me pause. But I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to pick when you're talking about positional golf and kind

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.879
<v Speaker 1>of playing that approach, approach shack game, that's his specialty.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So as well. Harbortown high correlation to TBC Sawgrass, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got all here top He's got top five two

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<v Speaker 2>out of three years at Harbortown.

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<v Speaker 3>Who you know as a rookie and uh and this year,

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<v Speaker 3>so what outside of Bryson, You know, we're at the

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of halfway mark, halfway ish mark of the twenty

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 3>eighteen calendar season. Who has really impressed you that you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of didn't see coming this year on the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say this is gonna sound obvious, but hear

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<v Speaker 2>me out. I'm gonna say Patrick Reid, And not that

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>he came out of nowhere to win the Masters, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's got five straight top tens. Now in the midst

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.880
<v Speaker 2>of you know, when when's the Masters, in the midst

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<v Speaker 2>of that, you know, obviously a lot came out after

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 2>the Masters about the family situation, and you know, he's

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.400
<v Speaker 2>gotten some blowback about wearing the green jacket all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place, which is ridiculous that you will criticize him

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is dumb. I don't. I don't really understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't necessarily I'm not a huge Read fan,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, I don't understand that. Why that just that's

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<v Speaker 1>just like the read kind of stigma. Why people are

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<v Speaker 1>mad about that because Phil, a lot of guys that's

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.640
<v Speaker 1>not people were actually mad about that. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly that Rockets game he was in his green jacket,

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 1>which you know, that was whatever a week two weeks

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.399
<v Speaker 1>after it happened. And I don't I think there was

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of like NBA fans who just don't

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>understand or casual sports fantasy, don't follow golf that understand

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>like the Master's or wears his screen jacket everywhere for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think Kyle Porter does a good job

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<v Speaker 2>of putting kind of careers and trajectories in perspective. And

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at the guy who's twenty seven, he has

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<v Speaker 2>six tour wins, a major. Uh, he's playing really good

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 2>golf right now. I just think that, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>went through some equipment struggles last year, and you go

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 2>back to the PJ, he's finished second first the last

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 2>two majors. You know, he got his equipment struggles sorted out.

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<v Speaker 3>And what about the vision? What about the vision thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That was yeah, that was crazy.

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 2>That was so that was vision straight down. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>the clubs he likes, and he's on.

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<v Speaker 3>A tear and he's in the top ten. He's closing

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<v Speaker 3>in on his top five.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why any of these guys were contacts.

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>They just get lazy. I don't I don't even understand

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that if Hartman had his wife run contacts, there's somebody

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>run contacts out to him in the middle around at Kalhalla.

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Once look at the laser and you're out'.

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<v Speaker 3>That's then you're getting the Anthony Kim insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Money, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Reed's got a better career than Ricky Fowler, Like, yeah,

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 3>he's he hasn't been as consistent as Fowler. But it's

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 3>such an interesting debate. Do you do you favor wins

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 3>or do you favor the consistency. Ricky's been more consistent

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 3>in his career, but Reid's got more wins in a major. Now, like,

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 3>what what do you think, Sean, or do you do you?

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Does Ricky have a major?

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I think he gets one eventually, But yeah, I think

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I think read he goes to consistent stretches. He's definitely

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>more inconsistent than Ricky. But I mean, even like right now,

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. I think that I'm curiously

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>how long this run of top tens and playing really

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 2>well runs out, because it seems like he could. You know,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 2>most guys would play the Masters, they'd come and you

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>know they wouldn't play good. They've been off, you know,

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 2>enjoying the spoils of the victory. But he comes back

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>and he plays well Zurich with can't lay and then

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>he finishes eighth at Wells. Fargo's the guy like doesn't

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>even give himself a chance to rest, you know, Sergio

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of an off year for the most of the year.

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>After winning the Master, Pettigreed just comes right back in,

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 2>start kicking in teeth again.

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>He plays like thirty five times a year too. Maybe

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>playbe he won't this year, but it's crazy how much

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he plays.

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<v Speaker 3>He just loves golf man, So what how.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that translates this week the way I mean,

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>he's obviously informed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's not a good I mean, he's not the

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy, you know, he's not iron play is

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 2>not his strength. He's a guy Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>This was pretty helicopter finish.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>That's true. I love the story behind the helicopter finished.

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Apparently his swing coach told him he's trying to hit

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a fade and he couldn't do it. He's like, look,

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:54.640
<v Speaker 2>do whatever you have to do to hit a fade

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>for me. So he makes that swing and he's like,

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>all right, do that in tournaments now, and he's like no,

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>He's like, there's no way. He had to be talked

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 2>into bringing the helicopter finish out in public because he

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 2>was too u he's a little ashamed of it, I guess,

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>but obviously works.

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 3>What about Brendan, who have you been impressed by?

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like Luke List, you know, I love

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>what he's done this season. If you're talking about a

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>guy's maybe not one or maybe not as high profile

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>as some of the guys at the very top of

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the world rankings, I think it's been cool to watch him.

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>He's been kind of you know, he was an elite

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, a high rank prospect and all that,

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you know wandered a bit in the wilderness

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and takes kind of a totally different approach lives out

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in LA right, I think, like, I don't know, he's

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>been cool to watch and follow, whether it was the

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Honda or wgc's sneaking in there, but yeah, first half

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>of the season, I've enjoyed watching him. He's like, I

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know why we frame everything in like Ryder Cup talk,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of a measuring stick. He's in the

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<v Speaker 1>top fifteen in the standings. I mean I should tell

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>you enough that he's what kind of foreman he's had

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>over the last you know year, certainly this.

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<v Speaker 3>Season, I feel like List is one of those guys

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 3>and I think we've lost this a little bit with

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 3>the generation of young players. But like when you look

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 3>at a guy and how he's progressed from year to year,

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.719
<v Speaker 3>like he's gotten like a lot better as a player

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>every year, more consistent. You see him on more and

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 3>more leader boards, like especially the last three years, and

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 3>then this year, I mean, he's so close to winning

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 3>for the first time, and I mean he's thirty two.

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 3>I think so not a young guy, but absolutely mashes

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 3>the ball. But he's one of the rare guys that

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 3>you really you know, this used to be the regae.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 3>You used to see this all the time, where guys

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 3>would progress year after year after year and then finally

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 3>break through in their early thirties versus now today, we're

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 3>so conditioned for the early twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Win sure, Yeah, it's I've been like digging into ends

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 1>a little bit even more. It's just crazy how fast

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and how competitive those guys, How how just deep it is.

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>How many of these young guys are going to start winning.

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>It's only going to get even more intense. I think,

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>just these twenty year olds and contending and you know

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>whoever it is, Braydon thornber Snout, Sam Burns, players like

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that just kind of popping up on leaderboards over and

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>over and over again.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it used to be just getting your card

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 2>at twenty four was a big deal. Right now it's like,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>well it's great, get your card, but even one year.

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, yeah, yeah, impressed with Jason Day. Yeah,

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 3>coming back to wins, he's so good his I guess

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 3>the thing that you wonder about is like the putter.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's like, oh, you know, like he had that historically

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>great putting stretch when he went on that run in

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.959
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen, and then you know, he hasn't missed inside

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 3>five feet all year year this year. I mean, I

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 3>think he's just like a really good putter. I had

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 3>a I had a buddy who's whose good friend who

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't call him a buddy. He's an acquaintance, you know,

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I don't know if he listens, he probably

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 3>isn't he Like he caddied at a vintage club, which

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 3>is where Day practice, and yeah, he said that day,

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 3>like you know how Day said he like took the

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 3>whole He hadn't played golf in like four months or whatever.

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 3>That one. Well, he's like, yeah, that he hadn't played,

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 3>but he spent like seven hours a day on the

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>practice green, you know, and chipping, so like that. I mean,

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 3>like I think that's where he works and spends so

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 3>much time. Like he's got that unreal distance, so he's

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 3>got an elite skill with the driver and then around

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 3>the greens and on the greens. I think his his

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 3>short game is underrated how good it is.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>No buddy of his is Tiger. Willis text him for

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a big game, for a big round, really four big event.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>He gets a text from Tiger, and you hear about

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it every time.

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>You got a text one.

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I actually hadn't heard that. It's pretty cool. It's nice

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>of Tiger. It's pretty neat that Jason daves buddies with him.

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>He had forty one greens last week out of seventy two. Huh,

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>short game, he's one hundred, He's one hundred and sixty.

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Ninth this season is shrows gain approach, and he's won

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>twice and hasn't finished outside the top twenty five.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Sean, how do you like him this week?

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't. Oh, you got it hit the irons? Well,

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I looked it up. Ten of the last

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 2>fourteen players winners were in the top ten of Shrow's

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>gain approach for the week. Only one of those fourteen

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>outside the top twenty. You got to hit your irons? Well, here,

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>can't be grinding all day.

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you think hit DECKI is going to break out

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>of his slump this week?

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm worried, man, It's not good.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Is he hurt? Is he still injured? What's the what's

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the problem is kind of figuring it out.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I try to get little inside info from Bob

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>whenever I see him. And you know, he played pretty

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>bad the first round of Wells Fargo.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh, Bob, people know who Bob is.

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Bob Turner's translator, I don't know who Bob is.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Bob Turner. Will you know? Shot out the

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 2>first round seventy seven, he said, just called bad breaks,

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>led to some big numbers, shot sixty eight in the

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>second round, but then he mbf to foil. You know

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>where he should play well? He played with J T.

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Pja on Sunday. I don't know, man, I think I

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 2>think he took the PGA eight lost kind of hard,

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I don't know if the wrist injury

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>is still think. I don't know. I need to get

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>deeper into this. But do you last, do.

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 3>You think he feels any pressure from the rise of Sutoshi.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to like his last The PGA is his

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>last top ten in a full field of vand in

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the units.

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>That was those are pretty Uh. It's quite a non

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:07.959
<v Speaker 1>secular diversion from the Indies. Andy's inquiry about SATOCI.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Welcomes the chance another countryman on the President's.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm wondering when the question is going to shift

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 3>from CANADCUA into can statoci win. How far away are

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 3>we from that?

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how's he followed it up? Has he

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>played since?

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Val?

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I think is his first start as a full member

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 3>of the PGA Tour this.

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Week saving it for for the Home of the Tour.

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>He's just a die guy now only plays dies now.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I think can play like, oh, yeah, you don't know

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 3>when I'm playing Japan.

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 2>He finished T thirty two at the crowns uh two

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 2>weeks after Heritage.

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 3>He can he had a lot of distractions that week.

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh, why whye yang was? You're champion by four? Wow?

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 3>That is you see now, Brendan, we we have diverted.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Crown.

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I love the crowd talking about so if you look

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>at some of those like Japanese Tour and Asian Tour

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>leaderboards and like results, it's like a treasure throw amazing,

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like blasphem the past.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome by Monday.

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>So who's been who's disappointed you guys this year? M likewise,

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 3>the same question.

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Besides well, yeah, that's not all his answer, but definitely

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I he's not listening as Sergia.

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I expected a little bit more from Sergia.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>He's been you know, he's throwing his clubs in the woods,

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. But whatever, He's married, having kids. I know

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>how that goes when you just have a newborn kind

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>of eject from the rest of the world the rest

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of your life. You gotta get your house in order

0:33:58.120 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and kind of hang out with your family.

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I just thought Sergio kind of when he cracked the

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>code of finally getting a major with be more regularly

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in contention. But also it's understandable that once you crack

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the toad to a major, you kind of hanging out

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and maybe regress a little bit. We've seen Babba do that.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, It's not necessarily unexpected, but I just

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought he would be doing more and doing more

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>with more consistency.

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Adam Scott's definitely in some trouble as well, right working

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 2>with Gg's swing tips.

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm really disappointed in Ted Potter. I mean,

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 3>the guy's miss missed five straight puss after he won.

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm just joking. I would say that I'm a little

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 3>bit disappointed in Matt Fitzpatrick. You know he has he

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 3>hasn't gotten off to start. I'm waiting. You know, he's

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 3>won every year of his pro career. I'm waiting for

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 3>him to break out. And you know, it's still early

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 3>in the season. He could get hot, and I feel

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 3>like this could be a good venue for him. He

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 3>just hasn't been playing very well.

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>You think hazelteen. He still has a hazelteing hangover. He's

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>still scarred.

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>And he was interesting interesting to observe him that week.

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>He was kind of like he's like a fan, just

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>along for the ride.

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, didn't he sit out the entire first day?

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it wasn't the first day. I think it was.

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>He sat out a.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Lot and then Chris Wood right.

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then when he did play, he got smoke.

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I hate to be so America centric, but I would

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 2>for me with Fitzpatrick, like I need to see it

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>in America a little bit. It's a huge disparity between

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>his as results in Europe and his results in America.

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a legend at North wester and he

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>did it America there.

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.800
<v Speaker 3>He won a US AM. He's done plenty in America

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>that's not played overseas Sean.

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.800
<v Speaker 2>At an actually significant course, like Brookline over Corey Connors.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah all right, right, so, uh who you got this week?

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Who would you pick? It's always a crapshoot.

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, literally so outside Bryson, I'm all in

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>on Bryson. I'm not even kidding. But outside of that

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>is Henrick. He's like the one guy who has a

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>consistently good record at TC saw dress.

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Real big leash.

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>You took my guy. Stenson was the guy.

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 2>You can have. I'm firmly planted in Bryson Land. You

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 2>can have.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>What's what's happened to Noorn? How's he doing? He's not?

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He kind of fell off, right. He was not good

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>at the Masters.

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I know that just the cud of Quail, but I

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>mean he hits that low bullet fad. I don't think

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Quail that that Quayle set up is not a good

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 2>match for him. He played well last year's Players, Uh

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>he was. I want to say he was involved late Sunday,

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, last last Players.

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Last year he finished uh tenth, So yeah, I mean

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 3>that's uh, that could be a good pick. I'm a

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm a roll. I think Paul.

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Casey, good pick.

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 2>He doubled the first hole Sunday.

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 3>He's such a stud. I mean, finally got that win.

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Like this guy, like listen to this. So let's see

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 3>starting this year Abu Dhabi, he finished T ninth, T eighth,

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 3>T forty ninth, T twelfth, first, seventeenth, fifteenth, MC fifth

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 3>Like that's you know, I feel like he just he's

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 3>like the most consistent player and on tour.

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I think he really is.

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>That's why he's number one in the Sagurin rankings.

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you think the second Do you think the Sagarine

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 3>rankings are a better ranking than the peach than the

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 3>World Golf rankings.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the Sagarins slightly undervalue victories. Uh, And but

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I do I definitely give them some weight. I mean,

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 2>I think when you had Paul Casey at number one

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 2>over Justin Thomas, uh, that was a little tough to swallow.

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 2>But and I think that I think they're good. I

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>think they definitely deserve some some weight.

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Well both Hostler looking at some of the rookies.

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Uh, my big big value pick, Francesco Molinari. Yeah, top

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>tens the last three years. It hits it dead straight.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:30.479
<v Speaker 2>He'll never see a hazard. He he just.

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Like never wins. I feel like he contend in the

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 3>sense of like he finishes high, but he's never threatening,

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Like you're never worried about him winning.

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>He's the king of He pops up Saturday, you know,

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 2>he's off Saturday an hour ahead of the leaders, makes

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>two birdies in the first hole of sind He's in

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 2>fifth place, and you're like, oh, shoot, Francisco's in the

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 2>field this week. I forgot to pick him. That's that's

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 2>my weekly Francisco Molinari experience.

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Is he gonna be on the Ryder Cup team?

0:38:59.520 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think so.

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 2>He's thirtieth in the world. He's definitely got to I'm

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>sure he's gone.

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it's gonna be guys who win, you know,

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can do it.

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I think is Gonnace is gonna torch Paris. It's gonna

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>be great.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I wish I wish Paul Dunn was in the field.

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Why don't they, you know, extend some invitation to some

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Europeans playing well.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>You can get in by being top fifty in the

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>world ranking.

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 1>But that sounds just like the PGA to Sorry.

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 2>There weren't any world ranking points at the event with

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the dancing six mascot.

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, wait, wait are you talking about we're talking

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>about the players. I don't think the players point, it's point.

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:45.919
<v Speaker 1>It's guns at anything else for being having a bunch

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>of contrivances around the golf part golf part of the event.

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, we're geting, we're getting off topic. I'm not a

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>big mascot guy.

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 3>We gotta we gotta stay on brand.

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Brendan alright, alright.

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of like the euro Tour kind of they've really

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>gotten passed. There was like that moment there where like

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the Euro the top euro guys or like the hell

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>with this remember that, like twenty eleven Rory just skipped it.

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like the one of the like the you know,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the Supernova Superstar just decided not to play because you

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>had like the Volvo match play in Spain the next week,

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and the Westwood was Westwood, your your old friend number

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>one in the world at the time, just took a

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>pass like it was interesting like that, that whole like

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>tension in dynamics pretty much faded and gone away, and

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the players is ascended and it's not really a question

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>if your top fifty you really play. But that was

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>always like an interesting time. Imagine like Rory just saying, nah,

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna play it.

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 3>I wonder what would happen if the euro Tour removed

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>one of its like Rolex series events opposite the players.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would do much except for maybe

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>those guys in like the thirty to fifty range of

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the world rankings who are also on the euros A.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which Fitzpatrick Mullinari, Alex Levy or something like that.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, so yeah, yeah, but.

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 2>That was a great run. Sorry, I'm saying Paul donn

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>is on a great run. By the way, I feel

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to rescind, I want to take back my take,

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like I just repected Paul done.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 3>That's that's you're You're a big man for rescinding and

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 3>taking back a bad take because that was U necessary fit.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>And Punchakana. I love the heat that he went to

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Puntakana even though you know there's w GC that week.

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I am credit for going to an opposite field event

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>T eight in Houston, second in the Spanish Open, misscut

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.439
<v Speaker 2>and then seventh and Volvo China Open and of course

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>WAYNS sixes.

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean Danny Willits in the field, give him Willis spot.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I didn't know that he's playing.

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's Tina teened up at eight sixteen with Gribble

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 3>and Hoffman. What do you guys think about those pairings

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 3>of the tour rolled out? You know you were being

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 3>was it Sean or you that was being critical of

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the Master's parents.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't recall that. I don't recall that the Masters.

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not critical of the Masters parents. I don't think

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>they don't. They don't. They don't give you this though.

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 1>They always make sure they put like they will never

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 1>give you like two of the top five, six seven

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>names in the same group. They always give you kind

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of a you know, they throw an international guy like

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe an amateur, like they never do these like power

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>trios like like we're getting this week.

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 2>The Masters is always big on like the two thirds

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>of a group, like you get like, oh, like gosh,

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 2>we're like one name away from just In super nova

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>of a group.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>But even that second name is like not you know,

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like Colum b kind of name. It's a great

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>name for like golf nerds like us, like it's wow,

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome, but like it's still not the top is not.

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Like there's like a column ad that's like ten guys

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and none of them are in the same three.

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that kind of better though? Because yeah, then they

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 3>can then they can take they can shoot away from

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 3>the you know that group. Occasionally, like I feel like

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 3>when you get these supergroups, it's all you see. You

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 3>don't see anything else.

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you think about what do you think

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>about the uh the Sunday kind of rollout of these supergroups.

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>They just said, these guys are playing together. We don't

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>have the time yet that they're playing together.

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I just I love the fact that the only uh

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 2>time Tiger and Philip played at TVC, Sawgrass was the

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 2>better than most round. Yeah, which outside of better than most,

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Like you gotta remember, like two thousand and one players

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 2>like Tiger is on the verge of completing the Tiger Slam.

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.479
<v Speaker 2>It's like peak Tiger. He on eleven the part five

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 2>he flags some long iron to like a foot, makes

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 2>eagerly fist pumps on sixteen after making this long birdy putt,

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and then on seventeen makes the better than most putt,

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>like the context gets lost and not to insert myself

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 2>into this, but I asked Phil on Sunday, like, what

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 2>do you remember about that? And he just got like

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 2>stone face and he's like, all I remember is that

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 2>that was a tough time for me playing against him.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 2>He was like, it was like bringing back bad memories

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 2>or just getting kicked in the face by Tiger.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 1>And well, I mean, and it's whatever. It's this is

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like the talking point that the tour wants you to

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 1>hit on because of this, It's like, but it does

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>speak to the depth of where like of the fields

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>right now that we can split them on the put

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>them on the same side of the draw and in

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the same group, because you have a Rory speak JT

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of triota to carry the other half of the draw.

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I know, that's I mean, that's probably exactly the

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:44.399
<v Speaker 1>talking point they want me to say. But it does

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>speak to the depth.

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Also there's like Poulter, Rose, Fleetwood, Watson, Johnson Kopka. Yeah,

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, it's not like only once. There's uh

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 3>in the after Yeah, there's I mean, there's Red Ram

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Matsuyama day.

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Dribble Dribble, Willet, Hoffman.

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Day Sence and Garcia. You know, like that's nuts there.

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 3>The I guess the pairings like if you have all

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 3>fifty of the top fifty like we do this week

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 3>in a field, you can you can get pretty good

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 3>because I feel like the rankings go about fifteen deep. Now.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So right before this, I was watching Golf Channel,

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a network on cable television, and they were saying

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Brandall Chamblie was saying, this is like the toughest test

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in all golf. It's what the US Open used to be.

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the most like pure test it, you know, and

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>then Duval kind of joined him and saying, like you

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>have to hit every club in a bag. You have

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to hit the shots both ways, like in consecutive holes.

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of that? And this is this

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>is like I don't know if toughest test was the

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 1>word he is, because that's like the tagline for the

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>US Open, but like it's a test of what the

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>US Open used to be.

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:08.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's the it's a fair test. It's

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:14.359
<v Speaker 3>not overly penal like you have space to hit it.

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.439
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't favor one skill like I mean, I think

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 3>the US Open everybody talks about with twenty yard wide

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 3>fairways and eight inch rough that. You know, there seems

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 3>to be a growing contingent of people that want like

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 3>that dictates who wins. Like a long hitter who hits it,

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 3>drives it well that week is going to win. Because

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 3>if you have that really long rough like and a

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.919
<v Speaker 3>shorter hitter, let's just say, like Tim Clark a couple

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 3>of years ago, who won, the players would have no

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 3>chance at a US Open because everybody's gonna miss a

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 3>fairway when it's twenty yards wide and the shorter guys

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:53.879
<v Speaker 3>are gonna be hitting four iron and the long guys

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 3>are hitting eight iron and nine iron, Like, that's so

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 3>much different out of really thick rough hitting a four

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 3>iron than an eight or or nine iron. The players

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 3>like the average fairway with has got to be probably

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 3>about thirty three to thirty to forty yards wide. There's

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 3>some really wide fairways. It requires you to move the ball,

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 3>like you know, there are holes that it's a a

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 3>fade is preferred, a draw is preferred, but there's always

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 3>width and there's always you know, you could the one

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 3>thing I think that has been lost because of technology

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 3>the ball and how far these guys are hitting it

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 3>today is that it doesn't require as many drivers as

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 3>it used to, so it's not as much of a

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 3>driving exhibition. And I think Brandle's kind of talking out

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 3>of both sides of his mouth in the sense that

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 3>he wants the us open, long and narrow, because he

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 3>says that a driver is the greatest skill and hitting

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 3>it long and straight as the greatest skill in the

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 3>in the game. Like Dustin Johnson might only hit like

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 3>three drivers around this.

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Course eight thou yard golf courses.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I side with my man Bill Korer, who says

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 3>build him shorter and wider.

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'm not. I'm not the architecture expert

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that you are, But I do love as like a

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>fan and a consumer, I love having watching these guys

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 1>having to hit the ball right to left, left to right,

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of hit a drive that's a draw and then

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>have to hit an approach shot that's a cut or

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.760
<v Speaker 1>something that. Like I as a consumer, I love seeing

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that having to be done. I wish, like you said,

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>there were a few more driver holes, I guess, but yeah,

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I love the I love that as a consumer.

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I like There's the other thing about

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 3>the players and sawgrass is like the ideal angles, Like

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 3>the strategy makes sense everywhere, Like if you play close

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 3>to the hazards, you get the better angle, and then

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 3>every you know, yard off that line, you get a

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 3>little bit worse angle in it. And it just like

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, daya is like innate ability, just like kind

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 3>of like the flag hangs out there and it plays

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 3>with these you know, the world's best player's ego, Like

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, you sit and look at it, and you

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.439
<v Speaker 3>these guys know they can hit these shots, and if

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 3>you don't pull it off, you end up making a double.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 3>But if you do, like if you chicken out though,

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 3>like if you play away from the flags, you end

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 3>up with really tough two putts and the angles of

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 3>the greens where you can have like if you miss

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 3>pin high and you aim ten yards right, you might

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 3>be down in a swale runoff area, whereas a lot

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 3>of courses, like the surrounds of the greens are really

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 3>benign and and pretty boring, like you know, like one

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 3>that jumps to my mind is like Memorial is there's

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 3>so much thick rough around the greens that the ball

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 3>just stops if you miss the green, so you're only

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna end up like a couple of yards off the

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 3>green versus sawgrass. You know, they have those runoff areas

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 3>where the ball runs away and gets further away when

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 3>you miss hit, when you miss a target or shot.

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 1>It's it's is it. It's by far the best Florida

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 1>course on tour, not like you know Florida course overall though,

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>of the four on tour, was it Florida?

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think anything is even

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 3>in the conversation of being close to as good of

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:19.759
<v Speaker 3>a tournament course. It's I mean when you think back

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 3>to like when it was designed, it, I mean, the

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 3>player's uproar was unbelievable. I think unfortunately the course has

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 3>been tinkered with so much since its original design, like

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 3>it it I the twelfth hole, the redesign of that,

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 3>like last year, that was awful. I don't care what

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>anybody says, like the spin of it being like great hole,

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Like you don't redesign a hole one year after you

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 3>redesign it if it was really good, it was not

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 3>a good golf hole. And to me, like, I think

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 3>that that's an example of somebody trying to force a

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 3>hole design. We have to have a short part for

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 3>so we're just gonna jam this in here because like

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 3>everybody loves short part four, So we have to do it.

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't fit with the flow of the golf

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 3>course in my opinion. But that that being said, I

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 3>it's we'll see what it is like this year. I

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 3>heard they soften some slopes. But at the end of

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 3>the day, I I and no disrespect to Steve Winsloft,

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 3>but you're talking about a guy Steve Winsloft designing a

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 3>hole versus you know, Pete Die who is the greatest

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:30.359
<v Speaker 3>architect of his generation. It just it was last year

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 3>it was a clear you when you walk onto a

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 3>hole and say, this doesn't belong and that's kind of

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>the feel of that hole along, you know. And just

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 3>how the golf course has gotten commercialized and in a

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 3>lot a lot more neat over the years. I think

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Ogovie talked about a ton on the podcast. Sorry

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm rambling now, No.

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving this, keep going.

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 3>He was just I asked him, if you could redesign

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 3>one golf course, you know what would be said? TBC

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Sawgrass on the podcast and he was like, you know

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 3>that golf course could look like that scruffy pine valley

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 3>look that you see with the sandy soil. And if

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 3>you look at the original pictures from when it opened,

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 3>that's what it looked like. It was really scruffy. And

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:14.760
<v Speaker 3>the old foot cut capped.

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.280
<v Speaker 2>The old photos are amazing.

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've seen like that.

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 2>The Yeah, he had goats. They had goats eating the

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 2>grass and they were on the roof of the clubhouse

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and like, I mean, it was a jungle. The place

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 2>was insane.

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>So what did they do to twelve for this year? They?

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>What did they do?

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 2>So they extended the bunker on the left, So now

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 2>that bunker used to really only come in to play

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:42.439
<v Speaker 2>on the layup. I think if you pull one shot

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 2>of the green a little bit catch bunker instead of water.

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>And then they flattened apparently the approach right in front

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 2>of the green that sloped to the left also, so

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 2>if you hit that it could roll in the water.

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Now that approach is flat, so if you hit it,

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, straight or with a cut and a lands

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 2>on that approach, it won't bounce as hard left.

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.240
<v Speaker 1>So they did things to make guys hit more drivers.

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that what I'm hearing or not.

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:04.879
<v Speaker 2>They're just kind of trying to get away from that

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.800
<v Speaker 2>having it land on the green or near the green

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 2>and roll off in the water.

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, They listened to player feedback and then decided to

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:19.880
<v Speaker 3>make changes that fit the player feedback, which I would

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.399
<v Speaker 3>liken too, allowing the inmates of a prison to say, Hey,

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 3>this is how we would like the prison run, and

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 3>we're going to run the prison this way.

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>It's the players Championship at the players tournament course and

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the Player's tour. Like, I guess that's god what they

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 1>get to do.

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:47.320
<v Speaker 3>If something's deemed unfair, it will be changed. But I

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 3>think we'll see what it's like. I just I don't know.

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 3>The amazing thing is goulfed. I just gave it the

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 3>redesign of the year, and then the next year that

0:53:57.640 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 3>redesign is being redesigned again.

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Now now we are in the meat and potatoes of

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 1>this podcast that kind of kind of enjoyed the main course, there.

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Was a Redesign of the Year award.

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they won the Redesign of the Year. The DPC

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 3>sawgrass and it was announced and then shortly after it

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.280
<v Speaker 3>was announced that the twelfth hole was being redesigned again.

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Is there a restoration of the year.

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's a restoration of the year. I'm

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 3>not sure. I can't I can't remember who won the

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 3>other awards. That's the only one that really stuck out

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 3>in my mind. So it's uh, the Yeah, I mean

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:47.959
<v Speaker 3>it's it's Crown, the Crown Sawgrass. You know, they read

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 3>all the golf courses in the world that did redesigns,

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.720
<v Speaker 3>and one did a one hole redesign that was changed

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 3>over and they won Redesign of the Year.

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 2>There were smaller changes, I mean there were, but they

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:01.720
<v Speaker 2>were minor. But there were some other changes.

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had that back tee on what is it

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 3>fifteen fifteen, and they took out that mound between six

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 3>and seven, which is pretty cool.

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.879
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean they cleaned up some The big

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 2>thing was they cleaned up some areas, which just gets

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:15.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, Bermuda courses get kind of shaggy and lose

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 2>their angles, and they just kind of brought back some

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 2>of that dye geometry, I guess, just kind of sharpened

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 2>up some of those angles.

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I love. You know, this is the perfect example of

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 3>like having a regular course as the championship course, it's

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:33.800
<v Speaker 3>just like the Masters, like everybody knows the finish sixteen

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 3>seventeen eighteen, and that's like why the Players Championship is

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:39.320
<v Speaker 3>must must watch TV on Sunday.

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's what that's. Yeah, that's what I was going

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to go into it kind of as from the consumer perspective,

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:50.319
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the guy who's maybe picking up on all

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the architectural subtleties like you, it is like you can

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 1>bank on it. You know the course, you know those holes,

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, the top the world, They're going to be there.

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that kind of bugs me about this.

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>So the Players a little bit is like I use

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>this analogy off you know, on some text with some

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>friends on a site. It's like it's like a cook

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:15.280
<v Speaker 1>who's got like this perfect like a great like piece

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 1>of meat, like a great steak or something, great piece

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of meat. You got the top fifty in the world,

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>insane field, the best feel of the year on a

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 1>recognizable course that like fans know and whether they love

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 1>or hate, they know it and they have history with it.

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 1>But then like you just like the tour just does things.

0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.359
<v Speaker 1>They've got this piece of meat and they just start

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 1>throwing all these crazy spices that don't go together and

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>overseas in the hell out of it, and like it

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 1>dominates the taste, like you just have all these things

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 1>around it that on the ground. And I wrote this

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>last year, like it's awesome. It's it's like a really

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 1>fun party. It's a totally different vibe from the Masters.

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Obviously everything is a different vibe from the Masters, but

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's cool they embrace that, Like I enjoy the party,

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the party atmosphere, and like the kind of this is

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:05.280
<v Speaker 1>like a festival. Let's have flown and there's also golf happening.

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:10.799
<v Speaker 1>But like from Afar as someone like watching it on

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>TV and taking it in, it's like there's just a

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 1>little too much, Like they have a great product here,

0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a good piece of meat. They don't need to kind

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>of throw everything on it and dominate the taste of

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>what should be an event with all the best in

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the world, the biggest perse and on a course that's

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 1>kind that's recognizable and we have history.

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:34.919
<v Speaker 3>I would agree with that. It kind of ties back

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:38.440
<v Speaker 3>into our original discussion about whistling straight beautiful piece of

0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 3>land and they just did way too much to it.

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's the same thing, I think. I think

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:48.280
<v Speaker 3>just like if they if you just allow the tournament

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 3>to speak for yourself, it would have like descended into

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 3>its spot is considered a major, like a fifth major.

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 3>But trying to force something in it's like it's like

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to convince somebody. If if you tell somebody that

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 3>this that my idea is the greatest idea in the world,

0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 3>they probably are going to have more restraint and opposition

0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 3>towards your idea. But if you convince somebody to think

0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 3>that it's their idea, that it's the you know, the

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 3>fifth Major, they're probably going to run with it and

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 3>bang that drum, you know, and other people are going

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 3>to follow them because it wasn't their idea, you know.

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 3>But by by forcing you know, the idea down people's throats,

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of backfired on them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will, I will, I will vouch for like

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the experience on the ground, I think agree great. I

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:46.360
<v Speaker 1>loved it. I loved it, and I would encourage everyone

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to go. And I think like them trying to do

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of different stuff from the food trucks to

0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:54.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever activation here or there is fine, Like I'm fine

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>with that, and they want to make it as different

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>an experience for the why you know, net of people there.

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, but I just think like the presentation from Afar,

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>watching on TV, watching on the internet and consuming it,

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like the stuff on the internet just gets like a

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit too much. It's a great product. Let it

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 1>speak for itself.

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of sad that there's no blog cabin this year.

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking this time last year, we were playing

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the TV shootoutout.

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and not to uh that's also like, you know,

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>speak up for the tour again here. But like I

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know that they like are really jamming the fifth

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>major thing down our throats. I think it's more like

0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that's like what Golf Channel needs to have a panel

0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 1>on that, and the writers need to have a panel

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 1>about it. Is it a fifth major? Is it not

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a fifth I don't know that. Like I think there

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 1>was probably an era when the tour wanted to like

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 1>jam it in there as a fifth major, But I

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>think like now they're like that's just like a media

0:59:57.080 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>debate that exists.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting going back and reading old players stories from

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<v Speaker 2>like eighty two and like there were columns all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who brought up those writers or I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was more writers and players. It was like,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was a talking point back in like eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when I saw that Alison McKenzie was saying

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<v Speaker 2>the ball was going too far, and I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we really just have the same arguments over and over again,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what they're about. But I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that people were considering it. You know, when

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<v Speaker 2>it went to Sawgrass or TBC saw Grass and they

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<v Speaker 2>decided there should be four and not five. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was just something that was people were considering

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<v Speaker 2>as the players kind of grew and prestige, I guess, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, everybody make their picks. Then we're we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get out of here on some overrated, underrated go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>you got wait, who'd you pick again?

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<v Speaker 2>Shambo?

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<v Speaker 1>All the way you're taking win Wow, loll in.

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<v Speaker 2>I might wear a Hogan cap for the course.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, Puma Hogan cat.

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<v Speaker 2>I think now I'm gonna go Wednesday to the first

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<v Speaker 2>time is pressure and try to get just deep in

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<v Speaker 2>his process. I just want to hear what he did

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<v Speaker 2>prepare for this test.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of your phone, you should take your laptop out

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<v Speaker 1>on the course. Just pretend like you're punching in data,

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<v Speaker 1>like do that little one armhole hold like your server

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<v Speaker 1>carrying a tray. Just type it in numbers, following it

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<v Speaker 1>in Oh yeah, make it a surface. Yeah, make it

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<v Speaker 1>so it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it like hey, and they are on the course

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<v Speaker 2>and Sean reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Make it seem like it's his idea to come up

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<v Speaker 3>and talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I I like Stenson. Uh, Sean stole my

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<v Speaker 1>thunder there a little earlier. I think, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously one here that was before he kind of jack

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<v Speaker 1>did from pro golf there for about a year. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Stenson. You know he's taken the whole month

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<v Speaker 1>off since the Masters, but played the Florida Swing well,

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<v Speaker 1>played Houston well played the Masters as well for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who'd never really played the Masters all that well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I like Stenson with this course history here

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<v Speaker 1>and you know his form.

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<v Speaker 3>I love how Stinson sets his schedule and is so like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he doesn't care about skipping a WGC event.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if he wants a month off, he takes

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<v Speaker 3>a month off. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Got Casey, I forgot. We even talked about all these all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So since Stinson the Hall of Famer, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like metal silver, Metal, historic Open like I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think like the way that Open went down too. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that they don't really look at that probably, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he won the Open FedEx.

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<v Speaker 3>Cup for players, He's almost got twenty worldwide wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Race to Dubai Championship or whatever they call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I'm in favor. I just was curious

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<v Speaker 2>for other people's opinions.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be interested. You know that he's an interesting guy

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<v Speaker 3>because he's one of those guys that lost his game

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<v Speaker 3>like twice. Yep, you know where he fell off of.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Westwood lost his game too. He could be

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<v Speaker 3>coming back from his second time losing his game.

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<v Speaker 1>I follow Westy on Instagram and it's just it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>him in the gym and that it's him having a cocktail,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not very much golf sprinkled in between, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. I mean, live your life. I'm not being critical,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just always him in the gym and then

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<v Speaker 1>him having a.

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<v Speaker 2>Cocktail, i know, or eating something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like he's a big foodie, loves loves cocktail. Then

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<v Speaker 3>he hits the gym the next morning. Yeah, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>need to work on the gym, you know. He hits

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<v Speaker 3>the ball good regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's shame he's not there this week, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Overrated underrated sixteen through eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to say it's underrated for because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Lord the Island Hall, but I think it's underrated. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I mean I think like I think because

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<v Speaker 1>I think because all the shine and run publicity goes

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<v Speaker 1>to seventeen, you kind of lose sixteen and eighteen, like

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<v Speaker 1>we don't we know what they're all about, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have a part five, Part three, and a really tough

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<v Speaker 1>part four. I think it's I think it's underrated. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's awesome. It's an incredible finishing stretch, and like

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<v Speaker 1>the Island Hole is just a piece of that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think sixteen is a such a fun hole of watch.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make an eagle if you get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you pull something crazy off on your second shot, and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen I thinks makes you hit two great shots to

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<v Speaker 1>make a pop. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna agree with Brendan, I think two in talking

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<v Speaker 2>to guys about March. One of the cool things is

1:05:20.360 --> 1:05:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the wind actually shifts a lot more in March, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you'll get days where seventeen is gonna be into

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<v Speaker 2>the wind, which those were the days when it was

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<v Speaker 2>like carnage and I wrote my big carnish, my big

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<v Speaker 2>story for the week on ninety eight and Len Maties

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<v Speaker 2>and like that kind of finishes only possible this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go underrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going underrated too. Seventeen is overrated, but sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>and eighteen. What I like about is you can make

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<v Speaker 3>birdie and in the case of sixteen, eagle on either hole,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can also make like a double triple or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we've seen tens on number seventeen, So I

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<v Speaker 3>would say say it's underrated. I think eighteen's a really

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<v Speaker 3>good hole too. I know it's distance. That's another one

1:06:05.360 --> 1:06:07.360
<v Speaker 3>where distance has kind of heard it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's that's a good, good golf hole. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So how about how about Xander Schafle. He's ranked twenty

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<v Speaker 3>fifth in the world or twenty ninth. Is he underrated? Overrated?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Sean, I'm gonna say overrated. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>know you get when you get on heaters and everything

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be going right. It's really easy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I am surprised by what's happened. I think

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<v Speaker 2>when he started the year with like a third in Malaysia,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just showed that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep rolling. And he's been pretty consistent, like he's only

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<v Speaker 2>missed one cut this year. He's got a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>top tens, finished ninth at Riviera, which shows he can

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<v Speaker 2>play archtectually significant golf courses. But I don't I mean

1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:03.760
<v Speaker 2>it just we haven't seen. I mean Greenbrier and Tour

1:07:03.840 --> 1:07:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Championship we haven't seen. You know, he played with the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open obviously, but he was not a heater there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I need to see, you know, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>see another win here soon. I feel like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like when he won the Tour Championship, we were thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy who's gonna win two times a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he became overrated him on like the hipster.

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<v Speaker 1>He became like the hipster golf choice, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>an X man. That doesn't mean I don't love him

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<v Speaker 1>any last. I like the guy. He's not really been

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<v Speaker 1>a factor though, since what the Florida the California West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Swain not really like.

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<v Speaker 2>That he was like the dark horse of the class

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty eleven because he was in that but he

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<v Speaker 2>stayed all the years, went to a smaller school, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play a ton of a j aga, And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I think your take. I agree with that, But

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<v Speaker 2>Western am champ.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're really like forcing our hand here saying

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the point of overrated underrated. It feels raw

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<v Speaker 1>to call him overrated. But I think like he became,

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<v Speaker 1>he became like kind of the you know, taste soup

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<v Speaker 1>of the day there for the hipster crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I think, and I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>he's got got a lot of work to do there

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<v Speaker 2>to make that team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he's underrated. You know why, because he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even play in the players last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's back.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that. He wasn't even in the players last year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we haven't even hit the stretch where he

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<v Speaker 3>peaked last year, so we got a lot of golf left.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he he doesn't get warmed up, maybe until the summer,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's already notched, uh, you know, a top ten.

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<v Speaker 3>He's only missed one cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Underrated him or Bryson low rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, Bryson won. I mean, Zanarky finished two,

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<v Speaker 2>but Bryson's.

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<v Speaker 3>Bryson's all the way. I'm so on the Bryson train.

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<v Speaker 3>If if if I hadn't already picked Bryson in my

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<v Speaker 3>one and Dunne league, I would be picking Bryson this week.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing I hate with overrated underrated is like Xander

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<v Speaker 2>could win, you know, in three weeks, and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>got three wins all of a sudden, like, oh, how

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<v Speaker 2>can we ever doubt Xander? What idiots we were?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the beauty of it. That's the devil.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I took underrated so I can look back

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<v Speaker 3>and say, you guys are idiots.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think he's good. I just I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>might not win this year, and we were thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be like an annual occurrence.

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<v Speaker 3>Winning is so hard it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And overrated overrated winning?

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<v Speaker 3>What about Taco Lou overrated?

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<v Speaker 2>Underrated amazing? I mean I love it now. It definitely

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't lack publicity. But I'm gonna go underrated because I

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<v Speaker 2>still think eighty five percent of the listeners don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, but the Taco Royale is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing. I go there just to get that eight

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<v Speaker 2>three of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only been there once. I'm not a Jacksonville resiment,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went there once. Sat with Luke Guthrie, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and DJ Paiehowski, Chris Solomon, all friends friends of the pod,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was incredibly enjoyable experience and a great meal.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's underrated. But tweets about Taco Lou

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<v Speaker 1>extremely overrated. I don't need to hear about Taco Lou. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like like Sean was saying, you know, not all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to hear about it. Nobody else knows

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<v Speaker 1>about it other than you tweeted about it. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>been there, your followers haven't been there. You don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. So it's a great place. It

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't need to be, you know, tweeted about all day.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is social media just overrates everything. Everything has

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<v Speaker 2>overrated social media because everyone jumps on the bandwagon. They

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<v Speaker 2>got to make content to prove that they were there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, before it got big, and it's just this

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<v Speaker 2>is all social media. This wouldn't even be a segment

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<v Speaker 2>of your podcast wasn't for social media.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what if if I if you take

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<v Speaker 3>Taco Lou out of Jacksonville and you put it in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>it probably wouldn't be a top twenty taco place. Overrated

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<v Speaker 3>place stinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh geez, it's hard for me to god.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the thing. If you if you take it out,

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<v Speaker 3>put it into a great taco scene, not anything special.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you base? How many times have you

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<v Speaker 1>been there?

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<v Speaker 3>Twice?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I one time went to there, I went to their stand.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I can really count count.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you hear about the stand, you know, don't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>They have they have an underrated brunch.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say that, m all right, brunch might be overrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've never had a bad brunch, just bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever had brunch, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>You've never been eaten breakfast at a later time in

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<v Speaker 3>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I wake up at five am, so lunch is eleven am.

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<v Speaker 2>At eleven am is lunch. It's not brunch at that point.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever had breakfast food for lunch?

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<v Speaker 2>I've had breakfast for dinner once, you have a kid too. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta eat when they're hungry, so you can't be

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<v Speaker 2>waiting around till eleven to have your breakfast. They'll lose

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<v Speaker 2>their minds, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean, next time we're in the same city, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go get brunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Together, shinny little little Long Island brunch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, that'd be good.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love it that Hampton's brunch crowd would be

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<v Speaker 1>quite the introduction to the brunch scene for Sean Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's like, you know, playing the tips that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whistling straight. So you're a thirty six handicap,

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<v Speaker 1>never played golf before, you're just throwing them right into

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<v Speaker 1>the Hampton's brunch scene.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be a little we can't have too many

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<v Speaker 2>of Moses. Probably got to write about Bryson's US open window.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, guys, we're gonna end it on that note,

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<v Speaker 3>and all right we'll have a good yeah savage, all right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm not making friends in the Jacksonville area.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not allowed back in Duval County.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, guys, all right, have a good week, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, you've been listening to the Fried Egg Podcast. We

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<v Speaker 3>do the digging for you.