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Speaker 2: of course, we have full spectrum coverage here at breaking

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Speaker 2: points this morning of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday. We brought

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Speaker 2: you two breaking new segments over the weekend breaking some

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Speaker 2: of that down. But we're going to go a full

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Speaker 2: through the timeline of the events, some of the fallout,

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Speaker 2: what we know about the shooter so far, the FBI investigation.

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Speaker 2: President Biden's response will then dissect exactly what we know

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Speaker 2: about the Secret services colossal failure here in preventing this

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Speaker 2: attempted assassination, some of the holes that have opened up,

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Speaker 2: and some of the background also into the problems inside

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Speaker 2: of this agency that are now glaringly revealed after this incident.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit about President Biden

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Speaker 2: and his political future. His political future appear saved more

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Speaker 2: so now by the attempted assassination and some of the

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Speaker 2: news coverage and some of the planning going on now

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes by the Democratic Party. How they think

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Speaker 2: calling on Biden to drop out. We're going to give

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Speaker 2: everybody a preview of the RNC, which of course kicks

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Speaker 2: Some news about Donald Trump and the speech that he

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Speaker 2: to that speech in the wake of shooting, how he's

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Speaker 2: feeling exactly, and how this will change the presidential election

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Speaker 2: race going into twenty twenty four. Will finally end the

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Speaker 2: segment on a funny note, somebody who you saw very

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Speaker 2: recently here on this program, the advisor to Democratic billionaire

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Speaker 2: Megadonner Reed Hoffman, has apparently been caught in the immediate

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Speaker 2: aftermath of the shooting. Who you saw in our Counterpoints

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Speaker 2: debate against Shank Yueger about Biden staying in the race, Well,

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Speaker 2: he apparently was caught telling journalists in the hours after

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Speaker 2: So a real view into the democratic elite mind and

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Speaker 2: some of the conspiracies that harbor there. As we said

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Speaker 2: at the top, this is a full spectrum breaking points coverage.

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Speaker 2: Emily Jishinski is on the ground at the RNC, so

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Speaker 2: this work. Let's start with the attempted assassination on Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: and I'll try and just start at the very beginning

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Speaker 2: of the video here. This was in Butler, Pennsylvania, approximately

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Speaker 2: The individual's name here is Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: Here's a little bit about what we know. It's broken overnight.

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Speaker 2: The FBI is now telling us that the gunmen quote

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Speaker 2: He is quote registered as a Republican, also donated fifteen

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a culture that people that have worked

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Speaker 4: respond to these things.

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Speaker 3: That kind of the contact behind all this, that's exactly right.

437
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Speaker 3: We actually have the video.

438
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the craziest videos where

439
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: you have an individual in the immediate aftermath, a witness

440
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: telling the BBC about how he tried desperately to alert

441
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: the police, local law enforcement and others that there was

442
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: a gunman on the rooftop in the two minutes or

443
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: so before the shooting. He was not the only person

444
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Speaker 2: who noticed him. There's there a multiple other video evidence

445
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Speaker 2: of showing people begging law enforcement saying that person is

446
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: up there and he has a gun.

447
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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that interview.

448
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Speaker 7: We noticed the guy crawling army, you know, bear crawling

449
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 7: up the roof of the building beside us, fifty feet

450
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Speaker 7: away from us. So we're standing there, you know, we're pointing.

451
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Speaker 7: We're pointing at the guy crawling up the roof and

452
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 7: he had a gun, right he had a rifle. We

453
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 7: could clearly see him with a rifle. Absolutely, we're pointing

454
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Speaker 7: at him. The police are down there running around on

455
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Speaker 7: the ground. We're like, hey man, there's guy on the

456
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Speaker 7: roof with the rifle. And the police were h what,

457
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 7: you know, like like they didn't know what was going on.

458
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 7: You know, We're like, hey, right here on the roof,

459
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 7: we can see him from right here. We see him,

460
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 7: you know, he's he's crawling and next thing, you know,

461
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 7: I'm like I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, why is

462
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Speaker 7: Trump still speaking, Why have they not pulled him off

463
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 7: the stage. I'm standing there pointing at him for you know,

464
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Speaker 7: two three minutes. Secret Service is looking at us from

465
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Speaker 7: the top of the barn. I'm pointing at that roof,

466
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 7: just standing there like this, and next thing, you know,

467
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Speaker 7: five shots ring out. So your certain that the shots

468
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Speaker 7: came from not going on the one hundred percent And

469
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Speaker 7: he was up there for a couple of minutes. He

470
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Speaker 7: was up there for a couple of minutes, absolutely at

471
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Speaker 7: least three to four minutes. And you were telling, we

472
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Speaker 7: were telling the police, we were pointing at him for

473
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Speaker 7: the Secret Service who were looking at us from the

474
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Speaker 7: top of the barn. They were looking at us the

475
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Speaker 7: whole time, and we were standing.

476
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Speaker 8: By that tree.

477
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Speaker 7: They binoculars they see probably not because the roof the

478
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Speaker 7: way the slope went, he was behind where they could see.

479
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Speaker 7: But why is there not secret Service on all of

480
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Speaker 7: these roofs here?

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

482
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Speaker 2: I mean this random guys, he's got three to four minutes,

483
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Speaker 2: he's saying before the shooting. Can so just take us

484
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Speaker 2: through what that reveals about the failure in that quote

485
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Speaker 2: middle tier of the perimeter, that's what it's being described

486
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Speaker 2: to us.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So what's interesting is that this is not an

488
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Speaker 4: urban setting. There were not a number of buildings that

489
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Speaker 4: would have been difficult to clear. This was one of

490
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Speaker 4: the only buildings in the vicinity, so it would not

491
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Speaker 4: have been hard to clear it. And in fact, it's

492
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Speaker 4: been reported that a local, a member of local law enforcement,

493
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 4: actually climbed up a ladder and saw this guy and

494
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: pointed it, but then the shooter pointed his weapon at

495
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Speaker 4: him and then he fled. This is exactly the reason

496
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Speaker 4: that you need a specialized force that can be trained

497
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Speaker 4: to respond to high stress situations like this. You know,

498
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Speaker 4: we can criticize that number of local law enforcement. They

499
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Speaker 4: all we want, but they might not be trained for

500
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Speaker 4: those kinds of high pressure situations. And so that's why.

501
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Speaker 4: And so if you look at the Secret Services response

502
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Speaker 4: once once the shooting began, then the response was very quick,

503
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Speaker 4: but this was was an intelligence feel And what's interesting

504
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: about that is if you look at just exactly one

505
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: week prior to the shooting, there was an interview that

506
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Speaker 4: went pretty unnoticed with George Stefanopolis of ABC on the

507
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Speaker 4: Part who was interviewing the Director of Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle,

508
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Speaker 4: and he brought up in a question that looks really

509
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Speaker 4: prophetic now, and I would encourage people to look that up.

510
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Speaker 4: He brought up specifically the question of polarization and political

511
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Speaker 4: extremism within the country in the context of the election,

512
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Speaker 4: and asked her if she thought that this was going

513
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Speaker 4: to be something to be concerned about, and she gave

514
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: the most just token answer where she said, quote, it's

515
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Speaker 4: definitely something we look into, and that was all she

516
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 4: had to say about it. And this is an agency

517
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Speaker 4: that we've allocated all this money to. Earlier this year,

518
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Speaker 4: the intelligence community put out its first ever what's called

519
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 4: open Source Intelligence strategy, and this was signed by both

520
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 4: the CI director and the Director of National Intelligence, and

521
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: the document says that they want to make this the

522
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Speaker 4: primary means of intelligence collection. And what's so interesting about

523
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 4: this case is that it's a real stress test of

524
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 4: that idea and it fails because as far as we know,

525
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: this kid wasn't on social media. And so all this

526
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: money that we're throwing into these g wiz technology to

527
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: try to hoover up all this information from social media platforms,

528
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: use AI and all sorts of algorithms that private companies,

529
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: frankly can make a lot of money off of failed

530
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: to catch this guy, and are going to fail to

531
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Speaker 4: catch the next you know, lone wolf who's described as

532
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 4: a loaner, because those people are not online. It's a

533
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 4: failure of the system that we increasingly rely on to

534
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: collect intelligence because there are all sorts of ways that

535
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Speaker 4: threats behave that aren't going to leave that kind of

536
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 4: digital exhaust.

537
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Speaker 2: Right and to take it. You know, just again, back

538
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: is you don't need to do all of that. You

539
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: could actually just do your job at a very basic level,

540
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: and then you could have prevented this entire thing. The

541
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: only headline that should have come out is crazy and

542
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, arrested at Trump rally with the gun outside,

543
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: not even at Trump rally. Outside the Trump rally with

544
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: the gun, shouldn't be able to get anywhere near the rooftop,

545
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: could not let alone breakoff shots. Now you're highlighting very

546
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: important thing here, which is that a local law enforcement

547
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: actually confronted this person on the rooftop and apparently the

548
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: gunman pointed his rifle at him, the guy retreated, and

549
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: in that moment of retreat is exactly when the shots

550
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: broke off towards Trumpet. I could possibly have saved his life,

551
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: of Trump's life in that and that he would probably

552
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: not you know, he didn't feel like he was in

553
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: the op where he was rushing the shots in that

554
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: moment at the very least, still a little bit of

555
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: a uvalde situation now, as you said, to be fair,

556
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: not perhaps not trained, probably shocked that something like this happened,

557
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 2: but still very surprising. We also know a little bit

558
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: about the failure here is that allegedly this rooftop was

559
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: known as a quote well known high priority vulnerability. Here's

560
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: a quote senior secret service source telling that to NBC News.

561
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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.

562
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Speaker 9: I want to get your reaction, and at this hour,

563
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 9: we do have some new information for you. A senior

564
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 9: secret service source familiar with the planning of yesterday's event

565
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 9: tells NBC News that the roof where the shooter was

566
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 9: located was a well known high priority vulnerability. It was

567
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 9: identified just the day before during a security walkthrough. We've

568
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 9: also just learned that there were two counter sniper teams

569
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 9: on site and that the counter sniper did not need

570
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Speaker 9: approval to shoot. One source telling NBC News that prior

571
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 9: protocols were not followed. The FBI now says the alleged shooter,

572
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 9: twenty year old Thomas Matthew Crooks, appears to have acted alone.

573
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 9: This all provides new context for the shocking scene last

574
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 9: night in Butler, Pennsylvania.

575
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Speaker 2: So they're saying ken that this was a well known

576
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: priority vulnerability. There was nobody there. There's no barricade or anything.

577
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: We also Susan Crabtree over at Real Clear Politics. She's

578
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 2: reporting that the Secret Service counter snipers only had some

579
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: twenty four hours to secure the scene, which is very

580
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: contrary to procedures. So, I mean, the failures on this

581
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: individual level are just stunning from what we're learning so far,

582
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: it was particularly.

583
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Speaker 4: Surprising these how long standing the complaints on the part

584
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Speaker 4: I mean, I know former Secret Service that described the

585
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 4: lack of resources not as a whole, because as I

586
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: was describing, there's investment in all kinds of fancy gadgets,

587
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: but in the specifics of what they actually need. And

588
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: you can find no shortage of you know, op eds

589
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: and books and interviews of former Secret Service agents describing

590
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: these problems. So in so many ways, this is almost

591
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: like a nine to eleven kind of event because we

592
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: had so many warnings prior to it and a total failure,

593
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: bipartisan failure, and a part of both parties to respond

594
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Speaker 4: to this and not just search resources, but search resources

595
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Speaker 4: specific to what the people.

596
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Speaker 3: That do the job need.

597
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Speaker 4: And you know a lot of these people on the

598
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Speaker 4: I'm criticizing the institution, the agency because the people to

599
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: take the oath, it's very serious oath. They're willing to

600
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: put themselves in harms way the ones that I know

601
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: seem to take it seriously, and you know, to the

602
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: extent there are going to be efforts to try to

603
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: throw individuals under the bus just completely misses the point,

604
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: because this is an institutional failure that needs to be

605
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: responded to in a way that ameliorates whatever the systemic

606
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: failure was.

607
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, and let's be clear here said there

608
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: are people who literally stormed the stage and jumped on

609
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: top of the present, got the counter sniper who immediately

610
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: takes out the shooter with a couple of seconds.

611
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: I noticed. This is not in any way to demigrate

612
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: their work.

613
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: It's to say that at an institutional and leadership level,

614
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: this was obviously a glaring failure. And let's talk a

615
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: little bit about that culture now of incompetence.

616
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: Just in the last couple of years.

617
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: We had the news just what two months ago that

618
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: the head of Kamalas Harris's Secret Service detail had some

619
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: sort of mental breakdown, apparently causing a lot of strife

620
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Speaker 2: within the agency. In May, we had the news that

621
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Speaker 2: a petition is circulating within the agency saying that people

622
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: were not receiving adequate training and that they were worried

623
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: about insider threats. Then you also talked about the January

624
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: sixth failure there and also the cover up that happened

625
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: with text messages from some of the agents. I mean

626
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: we're talking here, Ken, That's just three things in the

627
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: last year or a couple of years that tell us

628
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: about what's going on.

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go back to the Obama administration, and

630
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: as I recall, there's a case where they were soliciting

631
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: hookers in Columbia and Columbia and so Yeah, and I

632
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: was doing research on this, and we were joking about

633
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: this before we went on camera. I just stumbled across

634
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: my own reporting which I had forgotten, which was the

635
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: deletion of the January sixth text messages, which was would

636
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: have been central to providing a important window and what

637
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: exactly happen that day. And so what's frustrating to me

638
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 4: about these national security failures from nine to eleven to

639
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: January sixth and all the things in between, is the

640
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: extent which the public ends up getting blamed for things.

641
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: And in none of.

642
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 4: Those cases are high level officials ever punished. In the

643
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: case of nine to eleven, all the intelligence they had,

644
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 4: the failure to share it, nobody was fired for that

645
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: much less the kind of institutional changes that are going

646
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: to prevent something like that. So I would, you know,

647
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: I really hope that in the response and the justified

648
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: outrage on the part of the public, that this is

649
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: pointed at the right things and not the and doesn't

650
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: become the usual parts in football, so that we can

651
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: prevent something like this from happening again.

652
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Speaker 3: One of the things I want to get your reaction to.

653
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: We finally have first statement from the head of the

654
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Speaker 2: Secret Service, and in her statement she says at the

655
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Speaker 2: very end that she is confident. She says confident, which

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how she can say this in the

657
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Speaker 2: security plan that our Secret Service R and C coordinator

658
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Speaker 2: and our partners have put in place, which we have

659
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Speaker 2: reviewed and strengthened in the wake of Saturday's shooting, and

660
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Speaker 2: there's no you know, taking responsibility inside of this. Can

661
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Speaker 2: there's just well, we take the responsibility protecting him seriously,

662
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Speaker 2: We're going to do a review.

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Speaker 3: Et cetera and all of that. But we have not

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Speaker 3: heard from her.

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Speaker 2: And actually yesterday there was a press conference by the

666
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Speaker 2: Secret Service about Milwaukee and the RNC. They wouldn't answer

667
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Speaker 2: a single question about the attempted assassination. So it feels

668
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Speaker 2: like there is a real cover up at least being

669
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Speaker 2: attempted or trying to move past this. But I don't

670
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Speaker 2: think they can. I mean, this is too high profile

671
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Speaker 2: of an incident that's happened here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is gonna be anmpossible situation to.

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Speaker 3: You know, ignore.

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Speaker 4: But I think the important thing, you know, as the

675
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Speaker 4: saying goes, never let a crisis go to was and

676
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Speaker 4: boy was this a crisis. I mean, we may not

677
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Speaker 4: get another opportunity like this, god willing, and if we

678
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Speaker 4: and if we do, it might look a lot worse.

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Speaker 4: So they're really going to need to respond in a

680
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Speaker 4: way that is not what we've seen so far, which

681
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Speaker 4: is immediately afterwards, even President Trump, the great critic of

682
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Speaker 4: the so called deep state, the national security community immediately

683
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Speaker 4: thank them now again, I you know, have respect for

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Speaker 4: the rank and file individuals, But to say nothing of

685
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Speaker 4: the institutional failure, I think says a lot. And it

686
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Speaker 4: goes back to a point I was trying to make

687
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Speaker 4: at the beginning of the interview, which is that because

688
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 4: of the mystique and because of Hollywood, and because of

689
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Speaker 4: people's impressions of the national security community, I think it's

690
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Speaker 4: really hard for people to believe, much less understand that

691
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: these are fallible agencies, just like anything else, and that

692
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Speaker 4: it's a lot less like James Bond movie than it

693
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Speaker 4: is like any job that you're familiar with, where things

694
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Speaker 4: go wrong and people make mistakes and things are dysfunctional.

695
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Speaker 4: So this is a really important moment not to just

696
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Speaker 4: defer to oh, what do I know about the national Well,

697
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Speaker 4: let's trust the experts. No, you know what you saw here,

698
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Speaker 4: everybody saw it exactly was pretty much what happened.

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Speaker 2: And that is actually the scary part, right because that

700
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Speaker 2: could embolden some crazy individuals out there who are like, wait,

701
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Speaker 2: it's this easy. Like you said, they believed Hollywood, they

702
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Speaker 2: believe this is good. This is this entire thing was

703
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Speaker 2: just a crime of opportunity. Yes, you had a crazy person,

704
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Speaker 2: but I mean, at the end of the day, he

705
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Speaker 2: lived forty minutes away. He says, I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: and try and kill the president. At least, you know,

707
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Speaker 2: from what we can see right now, in a normal situation,

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Speaker 2: he gets arrested walking to that place with the gun,

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Speaker 2: and boom, he's.

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Speaker 3: Going to jail.

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Speaker 2: You're never going to hear about his name again, and

712
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: everybody just gets to move on. But because of the

713
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: systemic failure after failure after failure, being able to get

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Speaker 2: onto the rooftop, being able to put shots off, then

715
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Speaker 2: killing an individual in the crowd, and almost killing the

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Speaker 2: former president, now it is in the national scandal, and

717
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: you think, how could something like this ever happen? So

718
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Speaker 2: that's really well said about how Also, I think that

719
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: the eventual response here is going to try and shift

720
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Speaker 2: the blame to the public. They're going to increase the

721
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Speaker 2: national security state the same way that they did after

722
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Speaker 2: nine to eleven, but without solving for the basics, which

723
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Speaker 2: is everybody just here does their job the same way

724
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Speaker 2: they did. And you know, people were saying, oh, why

725
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Speaker 2: weren't there any drones. You don't need to need a

726
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 2: drone to do something like this, just barricade the rooftop off. Now, sure,

727
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: use the drone if you need to, but we don't

728
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Speaker 2: need to blow hundreds of billions of dollars, you know,

729
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Speaker 2: on expansion of technology. You just need to learn how

730
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Speaker 2: to basic competence of what we're doing. And we'll look

731
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Speaker 2: to you Ken in the coming days about some more

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Speaker 2: news about the investigation more. But we appreciate your analysis

733
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Speaker 2: here man, Thank.

734
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Speaker 3: You, Thanks Satter.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, let's turn now to the political

736
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Speaker 2: fortunes of President Biden. He appeared to be in a

737
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Speaker 2: moment of at least crisis and shakiness after his disastrous

738
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Speaker 2: debate performance, but Democratic insiders now believe that the attempted

739
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Speaker 2: assassination on Donald Trump will cool the temperature and shift

740
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Speaker 2: the story and attention away from those calls for Biden

741
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Speaker 2: to step down. They now have a plan that they

742
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Speaker 2: are standing down because of the quote fragile political moment.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to face the nation where Bob

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Speaker 2: Costa reports us.

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Speaker 10: I've been speaking with some top Democrats. They believe that

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Speaker 10: those Democrats who have the concerns about President Biden are

747
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Speaker 10: now standing down politically, will back President Biden. Because of

748
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Speaker 10: this fragile political moment, All of that talk about the

749
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Speaker 10: debate faded almost instantly among my top Democratic sources as

750
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Speaker 10: this unfold. That say it's time for the country to

751
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Speaker 10: stick together and that means Democrats sticking together as.

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Speaker 2: Well, faded almost instantly. And it appears now that the

753
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Speaker 2: Biden campaign wants to use the current political moment actually

754
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Speaker 2: to extenuate Biden's at least alleged political strengths. We should

755
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: not forget, though, that before that assassination, this was the

756
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Speaker 2: big attempted assassination. It was the biggest story in the country,

757
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: and it was a moment of genuine crisis. In fact,

758
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Speaker 2: the very day of the attempted assassination, President Biden had

759
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: an insane, you know, interaction with members of the House.

760
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Speaker 2: Democrats going to put this up there on the screen,

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Speaker 2: and I'll read from this entire thing. So there's the

762
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Speaker 2: new Democrats as a coalition on Capitol Hill. They decide

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Speaker 2: to have a zoom call with President Biden. So Biden

764
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: apparently showed up late to the meeting. He then referred

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Speaker 2: to a congressman who has a bronze star quote somewhat unintelligibly,

766
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Speaker 2: and then pulled back before saying more. Sources were telling

767
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Speaker 2: reporters that they were quote aghast and they took it

768
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Speaker 2: as deeply inappropriate. That was just the first of a

769
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Speaker 2: crazy confrontation, basically insulting a congressman with a bronze star

770
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Speaker 2: who was confronting him on his ability to continue running.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the next part here to just continue

772
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Speaker 2: to look down a little bit. This was also a

773
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Speaker 2: crazy moment and similar literally out of something like veep.

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Speaker 2: During the Biden call with the Congressional Progressive Caucus, the

775
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Speaker 2: President said that his staff passed him a note saying

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Speaker 2: stay positive, you are sounding defensive.

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Speaker 3: Biden then read the.

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Speaker 2: Note aloud, according to the participants that were actually on

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Speaker 2: the phone call, so literally reading the note aloud, almost

780
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Speaker 2: like some of them. Sort of ron Burgundy situation and

781
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Speaker 2: in every one of these congressional meetings like I'm pulling

782
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Speaker 2: up the details you know here in front of me

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Speaker 2: with moderate House Democrats. Not only did that situation have

784
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Speaker 2: with Jason Crowe, but you had one lawmaker who said

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Speaker 2: on the call, quote that was a complete disaster. We

786
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Speaker 2: saw the same Joe Biden from the debate. Another lawmaker

787
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: says it was awful. A third says members were not

788
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: holding back. It got tense with Crow for sure. Crow

789
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Speaker 2: was the person who told him that he should drop

790
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Speaker 2: out of the race. At one point, they two representatives

791
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: grilled Biden on how he plans to turn his campaign around.

792
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Speaker 2: In response, they asked Biden, how you're going to win

793
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Speaker 2: back disaffected voters. Biden said then that part of his

794
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: plan was that members need to do a better job

795
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Speaker 2: advertising his administration's accomplishment.

796
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Speaker 3: So he told them you're the problem.

797
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Speaker 2: Actually, you're the ones who need to go out out

798
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Speaker 2: there and you need to show what I have done

799
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Speaker 2: for you. As another congressman highlighted his distressing polding numbers,

800
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Speaker 2: Biden quote tried to interrupt, adding caveats with having the

801
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Speaker 2: congressman then having to interject to finish your question. Crowe's question,

802
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: the Bronze Star recipient prompted what two members were described

803
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: as shouting from Biden, who went off in a tangent

804
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: challenged that congressman to quote, name me a foreign leader

805
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Speaker 2: who thinks I'm not the most effective leader, as if

806
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Speaker 2: any of them are going to talk to a random

807
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Speaker 2: House Democrat. He says, tell me who the hell that is.

808
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Biden continued, he says that it was dead wrong that

809
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Speaker 2: foreign leaders didn't lack confidence him in him, and he said, quote,

810
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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that crap. He then started

811
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Speaker 2: continuing to shout at Jason Crowe for no reason. Another

812
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Speaker 2: source told Axios that Biden's answer stress at the exchange

813
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Speaker 2: ended then on a positive note, where Biden cut things

814
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Speaker 2: off at the end and he said, if you're really

815
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Speaker 2: getting input, then I'm not strong enough and I'd like

816
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Speaker 2: to know more detail because I want to deal with it.

817
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Speaker 2: He then departed early from the call, despite showing up late.

818
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Speaker 2: He said, I need to go to Mass. Then another

819
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Speaker 2: one of the congressmen who actually said who was up next,

820
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Speaker 2: for wanting to have a question, He was cut off

821
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Speaker 2: his staff, basically pulling Biden from the call, saying he

822
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Speaker 2: has to go to Mass. Before they got to another

823
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Speaker 2: congressman who said that he thinks that Biden should drop

824
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: out of the race. That guy apparently was very unhappy

825
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Speaker 2: that that happened. So look, I mean, this is all crazy,

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Speaker 2: and it's also very telling too that this was part

827
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Speaker 2: of the new Democratic coalition the quote unquote moderates, not

828
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Speaker 2: really people we would agree with much on this show,

829
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Speaker 2: but to look to them and actually see that they

830
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Speaker 2: apparently had a lot more courage in their confrontation with

831
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Speaker 2: President Biden as opposed to the so called Congressional Progressive Caucus,

832
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: which barely confronted him at all. That really does highlight

833
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Speaker 2: kind of what the political dynamics here are. Is that

834
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Speaker 2: a lot of the people who have a lot on

835
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Speaker 2: the line, maybe in terms of swing state Democrats and others,

836
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Speaker 2: they are the ones who are paying most attention to this.

837
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Speaker 2: But this does appear to have smoothed all that over.

838
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Speaker 2: I will say the craziest part, though, is this reaction.

839
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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and put this up there on the screen.

840
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Speaker 2: A senior House Democrat is now saying, behind the scenes, quote,

841
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Speaker 2: we have all resigned ourselves to a second Trump presidency.

842
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Speaker 2: Now keep in mind, senior House Democrat can only mean

843
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty people, people literally in leadership who are

844
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Speaker 2: saying this literally on background. I mean, that's just stunning.

845
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Speaker 2: And what they say here is that quote Congressional Democrats,

846
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Speaker 2: all consuming angst over President Biden's candidacy has now taken

847
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: an abrupt backseat in the midst of the wake of

848
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Speaker 2: an assassination attempt against foreign President Trump. Democratic lawmakers say

849
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Speaker 2: that their immediate focus now is on the personal security

850
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Speaker 2: and that of their stabs, not on parties political woes,

851
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Speaker 2: helping to allow a crucial cool down period for the

852
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Speaker 2: embattled president. Quote, we're all just expressing condolences, keeping our

853
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: teams safe. A senior House Democrat suggested that the atmosphere

854
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: in the party is too chaotic for internal battles over leadership.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, they talk.

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Speaker 2: About the Biden campaign, you know, having these reach out

857
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Speaker 2: sessions that happened over the weekend. Biden apparently met with

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Speaker 2: Senator Chuck Schumer to shore up some of his support.

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Speaker 2: You saw also that even that individual who I described,

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Speaker 2: Jason Crowe, he appeared on television on Sunday and he

861
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Speaker 2: was even asked about some of the eroding support and

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Speaker 2: he says, look, it's a tough business. There's a lot

863
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: of stake emotions can run high. I think the president

864
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: heard our message very clearly, and in fact, he promised

865
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Speaker 2: to come back with more useful information to address our

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Speaker 2: concerns and to answer all of our questions. So look,

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Speaker 2: you can keep all of that in mind. But I

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Speaker 2: mean the most significant one to me is how Biden

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Speaker 2: is responding to this, which is he's done very short messages. Now,

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Speaker 2: as I said earlier, I didn't want to get too

871
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Speaker 2: much into it, but in the span of six minutes,

872
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 2: he said some crazy stuff. Just in that six minute

873
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: Oval Office address, he said battle box instead of ballot box.

874
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: He mixed up his words, stumbled over multiple times. These

875
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: are short. These are basically off of a teleprompter. I mean,

876
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: this is this lay up as layoup, get right as easy.

877
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: There's no crowd, there's no mitigating circumstances. You're looking straight.

878
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: You're looking straight at a camera the way I am

879
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: right now, except he has a teleprompter in front of him. Now,

880
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: as you guys can see from me doing monologue, that's

881
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: probably the easiest.

882
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Thing to do.

883
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 2: Whenever you were literally reading off of something and it's

884
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: directly in your line of sight, you don't have anything

885
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: that is distracting you.

886
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: We do it here all the time.

887
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: And that's why it's so shocking that even in that

888
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: he finds it so difficult actually to continue. And this

889
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: is the person who's been doing this now for decades,

890
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: so it's not like you can even use the excuse

891
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: that he's new to it or anything like that. We

892
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: also know that this whole a lay our concerns, weighted

893
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: out strategy, that's a winning strategy for Biden. Remember next

894
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 2: week after the RNC, that's when the virtual roll call

895
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: is apparently scheduled to happen, and Biden will be nominated

896
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: basically officially on the DNC before you even get to

897
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 2: the convention. So all you have to do is wait

898
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: it out and survive a week. What's happening this week

899
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: the rn C, which we're about to get to, which

900
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: means that this weight and see strategy by Biden is

901
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: basically just the is the winning one, at least for now,

902
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: because what it means is that all he has to

903
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: do is just call for unity, use the attempted assassination

904
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: for his own political survival, and then House Democrats feel

905
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: awkward calling for it or basically appearing presidential, you know,

906
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: right now, and they're not really allowed to talk about

907
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: a few of these things.

908
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: And in the midst of all of that, what does

909
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: it mean.

910
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: It means all he's got to do is get make

911
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: it to that virtual nomination and then boom, he's the nominee.

912
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: There's not even a talk here about him dropping out

913
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: or anything, and he is headed to a disastrous defeat

914
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: in November. So that is the current Biden political fortune.

915
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: Will bring you some more news about that tomorrow if

916
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: anything breaks. But it is pretty stunning that this event

917
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: basically not only did you know Trump was literally saved,

918
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: but it appears to have saved the political fortunes of

919
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, at least for now. None of the calls

920
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: that immediately happen in the aftermath of his big boy

921
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: press conference, you guys remember that on Thursday. All of

922
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: that appears to have fizzled out now and none of

923
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 2: the attention is being focused on him, and he's using

924
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: it very much to his advantage. I will stay on

925
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: the campaign front. They've paused all their political advertising. They're

926
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 2: not attacking Trump right now on the airwaves. Everybody's calling

927
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: for unity. We'll see how exactly they're going to adjust.

928
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: We do know that some of their fundraising had taken

929
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: a massive hit. Some ninety million dollars or something in

930
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: super pack dollars were frozen from the Biden campaign, even

931
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: though he was bragging about all the money at his disposal,

932
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: So he could have a very very difficult time now

933
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: going into this, not to mention the political dynamics of

934
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: having your opponent literally survive in an assassination attempt, get

935
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: bloodied and put his fist in the air and probably

936
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: one of the most iconic photos of all time. So

937
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough road I think there for

938
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: mister Biden. Going ahead, all right, let's shift gears now

939
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: to the RNC. We're learning some interesting news just this morning,

940
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: a new interview that Donald Trump gave to the Washington Examiner.

941
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: Let's go and put this up there on the screen.

942
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: This was an interview given to Selena Zito. You guys

943
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: may remember her. She was really gained fame in twenty

944
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: sixteen for covering Trump rallies. She actually was present at Butler,

945
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and has an interesting interview here with the former

946
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: president who is rewriting his convention speech quote to focus.

947
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 3: On unity, not Biden.

948
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: So I'm going to read a little bit from the

949
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: interview just because it is very Trumpian in its speech quote.

950
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: He says, the speech that I was going to give

951
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: on Thursday was going to be a humdinger. He said,

952
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: had this not happened, this would have been one of

953
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: the most incredible speeches, he says, aimed though mostly at

954
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: the policies of Joe Biden. Honestly, it's going to be

955
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: a whole different speech now, he says, he has switched

956
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: from planning to excite his voter base to one that

957
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: demonstrates his belief that the attack on him at a

958
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: rally had changed the election and campaign entirely. Most Republicans

959
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: and Democrats have now acknowledged that. In the aftermath, Trump said,

960
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: people across the country from different walks of life and

961
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: political views have called him and noted that he was

962
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: safe from death because he turned from the crowd to

963
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: look at a screen showing data that he was using

964
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: in his speech quote that reality is setting in. I

965
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: rarely look away from a crowd. Had I not done

966
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: that in that moment, well, we would not be talking today,

967
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: would we talking? As he boarded his plane, Trump then

968
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 2: continued saying his speech will meet the moment that history demands.

969
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: It is a chance to bring the country together. I

970
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: was given that chance, And he said, God alone prevented

971
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: the unthinkable from happening, and he said fear not, and

972
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: again he.

973
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: Continued to invote God for his deliverance.

974
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: He says, this is a chance to bring the whole country,

975
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: even the whole world together. The speech will be a

976
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: lot different. They asked him a little bit more about

977
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: some of the events. He hailed Corey Contempore, the former

978
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: fire chief who was shot and killed at the Trump rally.

979
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: Trump said that his decision to raise his hand when

980
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: the Secret Service was leading him off the stage was

981
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: to let people know that he was okay and that

982
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 2: America goes on, we go forward, and we are strong.

983
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: Of the photograph, he said he believed it was an

984
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: iconic image. He said that when he stood up and

985
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: he saw the crowd had not moved, he needed to

986
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: tell them that he and the country were going to

987
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: be okay. The energy coming from the people in that

988
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: moment they stood there. It's hard to describe what it

989
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: felt like. But I knew that the world was looking.

990
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: I knew that history would judge this, and I knew

991
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: I had to let them know that we were okay.

992
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: And so that's very interesting there to learn about the

993
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: rewriting of the speech. It is one of those things

994
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 2: that demonstrates how much an event like this can shake

995
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: things up, not only in terms of how we internalize it,

996
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: but for the candidate themselves. I mean, I was reading

997
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: just this morning, Tucker Carlson gave an interview to Axios

998
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump in which he said that quote, getting

999
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: shot in the face changes a man. I think you

1000
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: can really say that, so almost dying Rock's perspectives. Trump

1001
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: has shown little appetite for changing his ways previously, but

1002
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: his advisors tell us Trump plans to seize the moment

1003
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: by toning down his Trumpiness and dialing up efforts to

1004
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: unite a tinderbox America.

1005
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: Quote.

1006
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: I think it's real, Tucker Carlson said, who is speaking

1007
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: by the way at the RNC and says getting shot

1008
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 2: in the face changes a man. That is apparently something

1009
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: also echoed by others who spoke to Trump, who said

1010
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: that he seemed almost spiritual in his the aftermath, and

1011
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: that's something that is definitely not normal for the former president.

1012
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: Let's ahead and put this up there on the screen too.

1013
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: About the politics going into the RNC, Trump currently is

1014
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: maintaining a major edge over Joe Biden in the battleground states.

1015
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: On the GOP convention, So this is from CBS News.

1016
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: So amongst choice for president battleground states, likely voters Donald

1017
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Trump fifty percent, Joe Biden at forty eight percent. Now,

1018
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 2: if you continue in battlegrounds, you actually look state by state,

1019
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 2: this is again likely voters. Michigan fifty one to forty

1020
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: nine for Trump, Pennsylvania one forty nine for Trump, Wisconsin

1021
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: one forty nine for Trump. These are all must win

1022
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: states for Joe Biden. And in fact, their own campaign

1023
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: has basically admitted that's the whole ballgame. They're not even

1024
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: going after Georgia, they're not even going after Arizona. They're

1025
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: bear basically sacrificing Nevada. And this will tell you why.

1026
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: If you look at the likely voters for the polls there,

1027
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: Arizona fifty one forty nine for Trump, Georgia fifty one

1028
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: forty nine for Trump, Nevada fifty one forty nine for Trump.

1029
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: North Carolina fifty two forty eight for Trump. Now, don't forget,

1030
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: we've seen after in the aftermath. New York is possibly

1031
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: in play there for Donald Trump. New Hampshire possibly in play.

1032
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: You've got other states that look like it could be

1033
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: total blowouts. My state of Virginia. Virginia looks to be

1034
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: certainly in play for Donald Trump. You've got places like

1035
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Colorado and others, places that previously were like Redish, you know,

1036
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: ten twelve years ago that are now being looked at.

1037
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: And if you look at the share of people who

1038
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: definitely will vote, this is another place where you see

1039
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: major enthusiasm.

1040
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: And that's one place. By the way, a lot.

1041
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: Of people said, you know, Trump is going to get

1042
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: an approval bump from this assassination.

1043
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: Well, if you look just I'm just talking history.

1044
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: If you look back Ronald Reagan, he definitely got a

1045
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: major bump from his attempted assassination, but after about two

1046
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: months and he was healthy, it equalized out. What I

1047
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: really think this will lead to is a genuine sense

1048
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: amongst a lot of Republicans who are like, hey, they

1049
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: tried to kill this man, I am actually going to

1050
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: crawl over broken glass to vote for him. So if

1051
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: the enthusiasm gap wasn't big enough already, I think what

1052
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: we're going to see is a huge amounts of register

1053
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: Republicans and others who it may not even be swing voters.

1054
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: But all you need is for the Democrats to be

1055
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 2: depressed because their candidate is incredibly old, feeble, and barely

1056
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 2: capable of acting as president now, let alone five years

1057
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 2: from now. But you also have your candidate who they

1058
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: literally tried to kill. Somebody tried to kill him and

1059
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: he barely survived. Well, in that situation, it doesn't take

1060
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: a genius to figure out that a lot of people

1061
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: are going to be come crawling out of the woodwork

1062
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: who are registered Republicans who may previously have been on

1063
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: the fence about him. And if we continued down this

1064
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: path of mental and cognitive health, well, if you ask

1065
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 2: registered voters do you think that Biden has the cognitive

1066
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: health to service president? Only twenty eight percent say yes,

1067
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: Seventy one percent say no.

1068
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 3: It's basically fifty to fifty.

1069
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: Whenever it comes to the chance of Trump choice for president,

1070
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: does Biden have the mental health to serve? Eighty nine

1071
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: percent of Democrats say actually that Biden does. Thirty two

1072
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: percent say Biden does not. But if you look again

1073
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: at the registered and the likely voters, and you look

1074
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: at the overall picture.

1075
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: Very very different.

1076
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: Now even amongst Democrats, though there is a big divide.

1077
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: You have some fifty two percent who say he should

1078
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: continue running in the race after and that's actually gotten

1079
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: down since the debate. They say he should step aside,

1080
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: they say forty eight percent, so almost fifty percent of

1081
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: Democrats there saying he needs to go now. In terms

1082
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: of beating Donald Trump, voters have a pretty good insight

1083
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: into what's happening. They think that Kamala Harris. Only thirty

1084
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: percent say that she would have a better chance, thirty

1085
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 2: two percent say a worse chance, thirty seven percent basically

1086
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: say same chance as Biden. I think I kind of

1087
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: agree either it would be worse or maybe same, just

1088
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: because of how badly Biden is doing right now. But

1089
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: here is the other fascinating thing. And keep in mind

1090
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: this is before the assassination. This poll was done attempted assassination.

1091
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: Fifty three percent of Republicans say they are excited to

1092
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: vote for Donald Trump, Thirty three percent say satisfied, and

1093
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 2: only fourteen percent say they are disappointed. They're a full

1094
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: third of thirty six percent, a full third of Republicans

1095
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: back in twenty sixteen who said that they were disappointed

1096
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 2: and were upset about having to vote for Donald Trump.

1097
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: In terms of the VP, there is some interesting stuff

1098
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: here about how this is all going to play out.

1099
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, this is before the attempt assassination, but

1100
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: he apparently was mulling a quote Apprentice style VP reveal

1101
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: at the convention and considering the convention literally starts tomorrow

1102
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: and we still have absolutely zero idea about who it is.

1103
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: As well, I think it does tell you a little

1104
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: bit about how he is keeping the suspense and was

1105
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: before all of this even happened. Now, what they said

1106
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: is all of the finalists are expected to be at

1107
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: the convention. Trump has decided obviously to keep this quiet

1108
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 2: over the weekend and the attempted assassination happened. Trump's team

1109
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: themselves they have no idea, they said, nobody knows. They said,

1110
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: for instance that for the record, I don't know who

1111
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: it is. That's from the freaking campaign manager Chris las Savita.

1112
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: Trump was asked about this on Thursday. He says, I

1113
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: would love to do it at the convention or just

1114
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: slightly before the convention, like Monday. Today is Monday, so

1115
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: we'll see. We don't actually know in terms of how

1116
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: it would be revealed. The idea behind it is basically

1117
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: to have this mystery person behind the stage. Nobody knows

1118
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 2: who it is and they walk out on the stage,

1119
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: and that is the big revelation to everybody at the

1120
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: RNC and also to everybody at home. Now, we actually

1121
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 2: have some polling kind of interesting about who Republicans want

1122
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: to be the running mate. Now, amongst registered voters, sixty

1123
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: one percent said they be enthusiastic or satisfied with Marco

1124
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: Rubio forty three percent, with JD. Vance thirty four percent,

1125
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: with Doug burghamte percent, Tim Scott forty three percent, Nicki

1126
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: Haley thirty one percent, at least Stephanic. So that gives

1127
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: you a little bit of a sense who people would

1128
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: be most decided about. I'm not sure I'd take it

1129
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: necessarily for granted, just because I think whoever Trump picks,

1130
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: they're going to get an instant bump. Listen, there's been

1131
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: a lot of speculation about this. I have no inside

1132
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: information zero.

1133
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: Personally. I've tried, don't worry. I've done my best.

1134
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: But from what we understand is that basically all three

1135
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 2: were in consideration as of not that long ago.

1136
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 3: Doug Burgham, Marco Rubio.

1137
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 2: And JD. Vance all had interviews with Donald Trump at

1138
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: mar A Lago. I think it was earlier this weekend.

1139
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: All of them have received vetting paperwork. The donors really

1140
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: don't want Trump to pick Jdvans. Apparently Rubert Murdoch, the

1141
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: owner of Fox News and of the Wall Street Journal,

1142
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: has been pushing Trump hard to pick Doug Burgham Marco Rubio.

1143
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure he has a major donor constituency, but I

1144
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: know for certain certain donors like Paul Singer and others

1145
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: of major backers of him. JD also, though, has developed

1146
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 2: close relationship with Donald Trump Junior. Some people have noted

1147
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: on the schedule actually that Donald Trump Junior is scheduled

1148
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: to speak before the parent vice presidential pick for Donald Trump.

1149
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: All of them bring their own.

1150
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: Pluses and minuses to the ticket, and all of them

1151
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: have their own complications as well, So obviously we're gonna

1152
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: wait and see now. In terms of Trump, Trump is

1153
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: actually on the ground this morning in Milwaukee. He left yesterday.

1154
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: Let's what d two up there? Please on the screen?

1155
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: Trump put out a truth yesterday, says based on yesterday's

1156
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: terrible events, I was going to delay my trip to

1157
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: Wisconsin and the Republican Convention by two days, but I

1158
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: have decided that I cannot allow a shooter or potential

1159
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: assassin to force change or scheduling or anything else. Therefore,

1160
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: I will be leaving for Milwaukee as scheduled at three

1161
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: thirty pm. That was put out yesterday, and there was

1162
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: video that was released that actually showed him on the

1163
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: ground already in Milwaukee. There's also been a reaction from

1164
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: the Trump campaign. They've apparently put out a memo telling

1165
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: staff quote not to comment and to avoid dangerous rhetoric. So,

1166
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: in this shift, campaign managers of the Trump campaign have

1167
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: called on the campaign to quote issue dangerous rhetoric on

1168
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: social media. In a missive scent on Saturday, after the assassination,

1169
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: they wrote, we urge you to recognize the political polarization

1170
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: of this heated election. If something looks or feels off,

1171
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 2: flag it immediately for leadership or an on site security team.

1172
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: Do not comment publicly on the occurrence of today. We

1173
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: condemn all forms of violence, and we will not tolerate

1174
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: dangerous rhetoric on social media. So that obviously a bit

1175
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: of a tip shift in tone for the campaign, and

1176
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: they have very much an idea of what they're dealing

1177
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: with them. Then finally, let's just check in with the

1178
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: RCP polling average. Again to look at where things stand.

1179
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: Let's put this right now. This is just general election overall,

1180
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: right now, Trump leading by two point seven percent in

1181
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: the now polling average of everything that's been put out.

1182
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: Only one single.

1183
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: Poll that was conducted that let's look, let's see September

1184
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: or sorry, July ninth and tenth from NPR actually had

1185
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: Biden up by two points. Every single other one either

1186
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: had the race tide or Trump up by a minimum

1187
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: of two with an average of two point seven. So

1188
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: that obviously is absolutely shocking to have that happened right

1189
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: before the election. All of that to say is that,

1190
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: in general, what we know from political science, at the

1191
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: Republican convention usually get a quote convention bump one or

1192
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: two points. The reason me focuses a lot on what

1193
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: you're doing.

1194
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: Now.

1195
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: There's not really a lot of evidence that it stays

1196
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: or it makes any difference. There's not a ton of

1197
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: evidence that vice presidential picks matter all that much for

1198
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: the ticket. Trump's previous pick of Pence was an exception

1199
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: because he needed to satisfy a lot of those other Republicans.

1200
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: This time around, these people are going to follow him anywhere.

1201
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: Keep in mind this also comes in the midst of

1202
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: attempted assassination. So the best that they can really do

1203
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: is just capitalize kind of on the sympathy that people

1204
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: have for Trump his call for you unit. I think

1205
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: it's probably a smart one, especially when you're in the

1206
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: leading position and you want to set yourself up for

1207
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: what the future would look like. On top of trying

1208
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: to contrast yourself with Joe Biden. The central thing here

1209
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: is that dissatisfaction with Biden is policy oriented, but a

1210
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: lot of it is just age two. So the more

1211
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: that you can just look vigorous, and what's more vigorous

1212
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: really than surviving attempt assassination, probably better off you're going

1213
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: to be, especially with every camera in the world that

1214
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: is aimed straight at you. So, as I said, we've

1215
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: got our own Amilygasinski. She's on the ground in Milwaukee.

1216
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: She'll be doing interviews and other things for us, and

1217
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: we'll be highlighting her throughout the week here on the program.

1218
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: Thank you to our premium sbscribers, by the way, for

1219
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: supporting that. All Right, a couple of fun stories that

1220
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: we had to throw in here about the craziness inside

1221
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: of the elite democratic mind. We're going to start first

1222
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: with Dmitri Melhorne. Now, you guys might remember Dmitri Melhorne.

1223
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: He's the advisor to Read Hoffman. He's the billionaire megado Or.

1224
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: We recently had him here on this program actually for

1225
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: counterpoints debates against Jenk Yuger about whether Joe Biden should

1226
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: stay in the race. It appears now he has actually

1227
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: been caught trying to tell reporters in the immediate aftermath

1228
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: of the attempted assassination that the entire thing was staged. Now,

1229
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: if he didn't know anything about Dmitri, we're gonna give

1230
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: you a taste of who he was during that debate.

1231
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.

1232
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, everybody told Joe Biden to stepped down.

1233
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: Everybody was sure he was two olds, same people at

1234
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: the same points in twenty twenty, same people are making

1235
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: the same points now. But the democratic process and the

1236
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: deliberative process that chows Joe Biden is the process that

1237
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: we have. It is how American democracy works. The parties

1238
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: choose candidates and then the nation choose between them.

1239
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he's the person who wants Biden to stay

1240
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: in the race. Debated Jenk about that topic. I thought

1241
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: that's all we would really hear from him, until days

1242
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: later we find out that apparently, in the aftermath, as

1243
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: I said, he was emailing top journalists memos about how

1244
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: this assassination attempt was staged. Just put this out there

1245
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: on the screen, because it's just unhinged, it's insane. So

1246
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: what we find here is that Dimitri is apparently sending

1247
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: out emails on Saturday at seven thirty four pm. Keep

1248
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: in mind that is after I did a breaking news

1249
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: segment for everybody where it was obvious and clear that

1250
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: this was an attempted assassination, and that was if anything,

1251
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: it was a huge security failure. So I believe I

1252
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: filmed mine at like six p fifty or something. The

1253
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: attempt assassination happened approximately six to fifteen pm. So in

1254
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: this email at seven thirty four pm he said to

1255
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: sympathetic journalists, which was also apparently sent here to Semaphore,

1256
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: he wrote that one possibility, which feels horrific, alien and absurd,

1257
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: but it's quite common globally, is that the shooting was

1258
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: encouraged and maybe even stage so that Trump could get

1259
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: photos and benefit from the backlash.

1260
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: Quote.

1261
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: This is a classic Russian tactic, which such is when

1262
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: Putin killed three hundred civilians in nineteen ninety nine and

1263
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: blaming it on terror is to ride the backlash to

1264
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: winning power. Others who have embraced this tactic committing raw

1265
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: evil and then benefiting from the backlash include Hamas on

1266
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: October seventh, if any Trump officials encouraged or knew of

1267
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: this attack, that is morally horrific and Republicans decency must

1268
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: demand that Trump should step down as unfit. The other possibility,

1269
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: he writes, is that some crazy anti Trumper in this

1270
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: chaotic moment, decided to assassinate the former president.

1271
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: So that's only a possibility. It's a possibility.

1272
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: Again, keep in mind, I mean, this is a person

1273
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: who controls the flow of billions of dollars in American politics,

1274
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: one of the single most influential donor advisors in all

1275
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: of Washington, d C. That is one of the reasons

1276
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: why that we had him on the counterpoints debates. But

1277
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: what's more significant here is to just see how unhinged

1278
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: the apparently was behaving, you know, behind the scenes.

1279
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: Put this up there on the screen. Okay, let me

1280
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: give you another example.

1281
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: The guy who works for Read Hoffman this is just

1282
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: days ago. At the Sun Valley Conference for major investors,

1283
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: Peter Teel apparently sarcastily thanked Read Hoffman for funding lawsuits

1284
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: against Donald Trump because they had turned him into a

1285
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 2: quote a martyr, increasing his chances of reelection from the state.

1286
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: Reaid.

1287
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: Hoffman then shoots back, quote, yeah, I wish I had

1288
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: made him an actual martyr. So that was a joke

1289
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: just day apparently according to him, it was a joke

1290
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: just literally days before all of this happened. Now, we

1291
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: actually have the memo now that we can show you

1292
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: from Dimitri Melhorne that he wrote to these journalists. Let's

1293
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: put this up there on the screen and I'll read

1294
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: from it.

1295
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: He says.

1296
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: One possibility is it's some crazy anti Trumper, as I said,

1297
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: blah blah, woul assassinate. The other possibility, horrific and alien,

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Speaker 2: is that Trump must step down as he's fit because

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Speaker 2: this was state so he goes, So which is it?

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Speaker 2: To be clear, it might have been real? Both pro

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Speaker 2: Trump and anti Trump coalitions include violent, insane people, As

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Speaker 2: he says, a burning person shot at Steve's plice. Trump

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Speaker 2: supporters have killed police to start a race war, committed

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Speaker 2: mass murder in a synagogue, et cetera, violence happens. On

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Speaker 2: the other hand, I am prone to bias, but this

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Speaker 2: is a classic Putin play, and given the facts, seem

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Speaker 2: more plausible. Look at the actual stot shot. Look at

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Speaker 2: the staging. Look at how ready Trump is to rally

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Speaker 2: this pampered baby shit his pants when an eagle lunged

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Speaker 2: at his food. Look at how quickly Trump protects himself

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Speaker 2: at the expense of others, but showed few of those

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Speaker 2: lifelong instincts in this moment. And consider how often Putin

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Speaker 2: and his allies run this play. I know it feels

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Speaker 2: yucky to discuss such a possibility, but in this case

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Speaker 2: the odds are so high and the steaks are so consequential,

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Speaker 2: we must ask the question. I have skimmed a few

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Speaker 2: headlines just now, all caps. Not one newspaper or opinion

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Speaker 2: leader in America is willing to openly consider the possibility

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Speaker 2: that Trump and Putin staged this on purpose. Ask the question, people,

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Speaker 2: if it proves wrong, we should respond appropriately to a

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Speaker 2: non stage act of political violence is outlined above. But

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Speaker 2: your credibility in our entire system of truth and justice

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Speaker 2: depend on being certain in the answer so that is

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Speaker 2: that's unhinged. Shall we say, shall we call it what

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Speaker 2: it is? That's fucking crazy. I mean, he's basically somehow

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Speaker 2: Putin is now involved in this, and he basically says

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Speaker 2: it is the most likely the Okham's razor, the most

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Speaker 2: likely explanation for what happened here. Now keep in mind again,

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Speaker 2: this is a seven thirty four PM. This is more

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Speaker 2: than an hour after the attempted assassination. And by this

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Speaker 2: time we and others already have video from people who

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Speaker 2: are on the scene who are like, hey, I saw

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Speaker 2: a guy crawling up there with a gun. I saw

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Speaker 2: all this happening. That was behind the scenes. He saw

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Speaker 2: that the foreign president by pure happenstance, turns his head

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Speaker 2: at that moment, gets freaking shot in the ear, and

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Speaker 2: a man is killed who is behind him. And you

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Speaker 2: think that that was stage. Keep in mind this too.

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Speaker 2: If it was stage, why is a guy going to

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Speaker 2: allow a shooter to basically graze his head within the

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: margin of error where a single you know, flap of

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Speaker 2: a wing of a butterfly moves a win in a

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Speaker 2: different direction and we get a pink misshot on live television.

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Speaker 2: You think that is going to be more like, is

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Speaker 2: that's something you're gonna trust, you know, in your hands.

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Speaker 2: If this was allegedly stage, that's where it's like, what

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Speaker 2: are we doing here? This is psychotic, This is insane.

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Speaker 2: But what's more insane is that this is the mindset

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Speaker 2: of a person who controls billions of dollars in American politics.

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Speaker 2: This is the mindset of the most elite rings of

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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party and the conspiratorial thinking that goes through them.

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Speaker 3: Now put this up there on the screen too.

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Speaker 2: Eventually, you know, he apologizes, He says, last night I

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01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: sent an email and I regret I drafted it and

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Speaker 2: sent it without consulting my team. I have apologized to

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Speaker 2: them directly. I also wanted to apologize publicly without reservation,

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Speaker 2: for allowing my words to distract from last night's central fact,

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Speaker 2: political violence took yet another innocent American life. We mist

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Speaker 2: unite in condemnation of such violence, and every instance, sweat reservation,

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Speaker 2: any other topic is a distraction. Unfortunately, I only talked

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Speaker 2: with Reid after I sent that email. I agree entirely

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Speaker 2: with this thoughtful post. This morning, I joined all America

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Speaker 2: in demanding we lose no more innocent lives to political violence,

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Speaker 2: so he claims he didn't clear it with read Hoffman

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Speaker 2: at the very least. So this is a guy who

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Speaker 2: Readoffman trusts a lot. This is a guy who journalists

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Speaker 2: trusts enough to get me getting emails from him that

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Speaker 2: are something like this. He's lucky that he was. This

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: is probably the first one that's ever leaked, because even

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Speaker 2: they were like, hey, this shit is crazy, all right,

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Speaker 2: but look, this is what we're dealing with, folks. These

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Speaker 2: are the people who are proping Biden up. These are

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Speaker 2: the people who are keeping Biden in the race. This

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Speaker 2: is the mindset which has been running this country now

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Speaker 2: for a long time. This is a mindset that runs

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Speaker 2: right through elite media. And the fact that even somebody

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Speaker 2: would ever put down on paper who is in a

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Speaker 2: position of power, send it out to people and not

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Speaker 2: expect to get ridiculed. That's one of the craziest things

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Speaker 2: that I've ever seen. And I'm glad that they burned

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Speaker 2: him and they put this out because he deserves every

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Speaker 2: ounce of condemnation that he is getting. All Right, So

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Speaker 2: elite media news, this is breaking just this morning. Just

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Speaker 2: had to put it here in the show because it's delicious.

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and put this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 2: Report from CNN's Oliver Darcy, Mourning Joe has been pulled

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Speaker 2: from the air Monday because of the Trump shooting. MSNBC

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Speaker 2: will not air Morning Joe, it's quote celebrated politics Roundtable,

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Speaker 2: opting to instead air continued breaking news coverage of the

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Speaker 2: asseempted assassination. They confirmed this decision to preempt its influential

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Speaker 2: and top rated morning show Sunday evening. After CNN reached

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Speaker 2: out to them, The network said that the show will

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Speaker 2: resume on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: The decision by.

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Speaker 2: MSNBC to leave one of its most recognizable programs on

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Speaker 2: the sidelines amid a seismic politics news driven new cycle

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Speaker 2: with the RNC underway is going to raise eyebrows. Now

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Speaker 2: listen to this because this is the delicious part. A

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Speaker 2: person familiar with the matter told CNN that the decision

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Speaker 2: was made to avoid a scenario in which one of

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Speaker 2: the show's stable of two dozen plus guests might make

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Speaker 2: an inappropriate comment on live television that could be used

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Speaker 2: to assail the program and the network as a whole.

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Speaker 2: Given the breaking news nature of the story, it made

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01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: more sense to continue airing rolling breaking coverage and fraud

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Speaker 2: political moment. Given the gravity and the complexity of the story,

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Speaker 2: NBC and MSNBC have been remained in rolling baking coverage

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Speaker 2: as we continue. These networks continue across simulcast, alternating between

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Speaker 2: NBC News and MSNBC, so there is one feed covering

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Speaker 2: the assassination and the alleged attempt. Now there is a

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Speaker 2: lot to be said about that, but for one of

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Speaker 2: the bosses to say we don't trust our own flagship

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Speaker 2: anchors not to say something crazy.

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Speaker 3: Is an insane thing.

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Speaker 2: To admit, because what you're really saying is that we

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Speaker 2: don't want the potential criticism of our flagship anchors in

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Speaker 2: the time when it matters the most. So if that's true,

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Speaker 2: then why should we want them on the air at

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Speaker 2: all if they can't be trusted in them. This is

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Speaker 2: the thing too about news, and this is something I've

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01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 2: learned a lot about doing this business. We do this

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Speaker 2: show basically, you know, all the time, every day, etc.

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Speaker 2: And we're on call twenty four hours and most of

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01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: the time nothing that important is happening. Like we're bringing

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Speaker 2: the people the news. It's not earth shattering, But one

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Speaker 2: of the reasons that you have to do. That is

1427
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: because this is all about trust. This is me coming

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Speaker 2: to you. I'm I've been doing this job almost five

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Speaker 2: years now that some of you have been sticking with

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Speaker 2: us between rising and breaking points, even watching the show

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Speaker 2: almost every single day. At this point, we have a relationship, right,

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Speaker 2: And so because you stuck with us now through all

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Speaker 2: the ups and downs, not just the big times, but

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Speaker 2: in terms of inflation or you know, anytimes you pick

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Speaker 2: random or fun stories or whatever, you know the stuff

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Speaker 2: that is going on.

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Speaker 3: You know, and you know a little bit about me,

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Speaker 3: and you.

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: Have trust in me, and you have trust in Crystal,

1440
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: Ryan and Emily and everybody else here at the show

1441
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: about this type of the things that we have in

1442
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: place to both check ourselves, to check each other, to

1443
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Speaker 2: look about what's going on here with the news, to

1444
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: report it to you properly. And if you hear any opinions,

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01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: especially in a fraught political moment, you're going to know

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 2: they're well considered, that we're coming at it from the

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: long perspective, and you can bake that in. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: I would say it's times like now. I'm not going

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: to say you meet us the most, but it's times

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Speaker 2: like now where we feel most gratified because you have

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: the most amount of wanting to know what the hell

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Speaker 2: is going on, and we feel very, very fortunate that

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: you're willing to put your trust in us at that time,

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01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 2: in the bad times, the good times, and also in

1455
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Speaker 2: the medium in the downtime. So whenever you take somebody

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Speaker 2: off the air in a breaking news situation, at the

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Speaker 2: time when news consumption is near and all. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't have the data yet, I'm willing to bet

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Speaker 2: this is an all time high for just the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years. If we take somebody off and you

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Speaker 2: say you don't trust them to cover it, then that's

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Speaker 2: actually admission you should never trust them at all. That's

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Speaker 2: really what I know the most about, having done this

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Speaker 2: job now for quite some time. And the sad thing

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Speaker 2: now is I think they're right. Is that they're obviously

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Speaker 2: right in that. Look at the way that Scarborough burned

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Speaker 2: all of his credibility on Joe Biden on saying he has,

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Speaker 2: you know, even more cogent than ever before attacking the

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal, and then three weeks later admitting saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe Joe Biden doesn't need to drop out of the

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Speaker 2: race after they can't cover it up anymore, and then back,

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Speaker 2: you know, changing that flip flopping saying oh no, no,

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Speaker 2: he should stay a Mika Brazinski is saying, actually, I'm

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Speaker 2: cool with him, saying but more so, think too about

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Speaker 2: what's the story I just did?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: These guys Didmitri Meilhorn. These people are crazy. They think

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump and Putin staged a shooting that came

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Speaker 2: within inches of ending Trump's life for political benefit. That's

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Speaker 2: what they think in the immediate aftermath. Those are the

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Speaker 2: type of people who are on Morning Joe. Remember Donnie Deutscher,

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Speaker 2: whoever that guy is, who claims that Trump is going

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Speaker 2: to come and kill him.

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Speaker 3: They're nuts.

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Speaker 2: Joy Reid, you know over at MSNBC, she's locked her

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Speaker 2: entire Twitter feed after the attempted assassination.

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Speaker 3: Why what happened? Joy?

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Speaker 2: What'd you tweet out there in the past that you're

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Speaker 2: worried that people might come and look at And I

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Speaker 2: just think it's stunning. I mean, Lawrence Tribe, he's a lawyer,

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Speaker 2: he's somebody's been on a Morning Joe, elite democrat propped

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Speaker 2: up all throughout Russigate.

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Speaker 3: He literally tweeted out, you reap what you see.

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Speaker 2: So after the attempted assassination on Trump, now listen, I

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Speaker 2: want to say this too, because it's important. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people are out there talking about unity, et cetera, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we got tone down the rhetoric, and I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: disagree with any of that, but a lot of people

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Speaker 2: are also doing the same thing that democrats in the

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Speaker 2: media did against Sarah Palin in the aftermath of the

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Speaker 2: Gabby Gifford shooting, where they're like, oh, you said you know,

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Speaker 2: Biden said something like we got to put Trump in

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Speaker 2: the bulls eye. It's like, guys, that's bullshit, all right.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't targeting Trump for assassination. This is just normal

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Speaker 2: political rhetoric. Now should it be that way, I don't

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Speaker 2: know whatever, but I've seen plenty of Republicans do that.

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Speaker 2: And when Sarah Palin put out a map which had

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Speaker 2: a quote bull's eye over Gabby Gifford's in targeting her

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Speaker 2: for political defeat, that was not legitimate to say that

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Speaker 2: she was trying to incite assassination. We are allowed to

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Speaker 2: criticize each other. We believe in free speech in this country,

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Speaker 2: especially here on this show, and that's not necessarily the grounds.

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Speaker 2: But what we do know with the MSNBC situation here

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Speaker 2: and taking Morning Joe off the air, is if they

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Speaker 2: were to say something inappropriate like that, it's more that

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 2: they don't have the wherewithal to even understand the moment

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Speaker 2: that they are in. And I think this should be

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Speaker 2: a lesson for everybody, and hopefully maybe send this to

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Speaker 2: your boomer MSNBC relatives, the people who put their trust.

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Speaker 3: If their bosses.

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Speaker 2: Can't trust them to maintain their composure, to meet the moment,

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Speaker 2: to deliver information in a timely and useful manner to

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Speaker 2: their audience when it matters the most, why should you

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Speaker 2: trust them to do it at any time? And take

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: that from somebody who literally does this also for a living,

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Speaker 2: I would be mortified, you know if somebody. Luckily, I

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Speaker 2: own my own business here with Crystal, so nobody can

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Speaker 2: make the decision to take us off the air.

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Speaker 3: But that almost makes it more important.

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Speaker 2: We got to service checks on each other, sales, the staff,

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Speaker 2: the production team and others to make sure that something

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Speaker 2: like this doesn't have This is actually an admission by

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Speaker 2: the people who put them on the air every single

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Speaker 2: day whenever the time is quote not that important, that

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Speaker 2: they actually aren't up for the job, that they are

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Speaker 2: doing a lot of damage here in terms of warping

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Speaker 2: the mindset of a lot of voters and other people

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Speaker 2: who do trust them for information. And I would urge

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Speaker 2: all those people to reconsider that if their own bosses

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Speaker 2: and the people around them don't trust them, to not

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Speaker 2: quote say something inappropriate in this moment that tells you

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Speaker 2: everything you need to know about what.

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Speaker 3: They're doing over over there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you everybody sticking with me for this emergency one

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01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: man's show, waiting on the news about Christal's kids. But

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Speaker 2: I think the situation will be all right, and the

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Speaker 2: two of us, you know, plans withstanding, will be here

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Speaker 2: at the desk tomorrow. There will be some programming notes

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Speaker 2: about me later on in the week, but I'll leave

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Speaker 2: that till later. I hope you guys stuck with us

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Speaker 2: through the show. We really appreciate you all the premium subscribers.

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Speaker 2: We'll bring everybody the news from the RNC throughout the week.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be big a couple of weeks here on

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Speaker 2: breaking a big couple of months I think here on

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Speaker 2: breaking points, and for everybody for the entire country, and

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Speaker 2: we really appreciate you sticking with us at a moment

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Speaker 2: and at a time like this, a fraud time. We appreciate you,

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Speaker 2: we thank you, and we'll see you tomorrow