1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. 3 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: Field and West. I don't normally like to start back 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: to back shows with exactly the same topic, but after 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: hearing Mike McCarthy's news conference on Monday, it's very hard 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: not to start this show talking about the fourth quarter, 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: because I think Mike McCarthy said the phrase fourth quarter 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: in that news conference at least a half a dozen 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: somewhere between a half a dozen and a dozen times. 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Because this team's issue right now is the failure to 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: finish games. Yeah, you have to. We discussed this and 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: it's been a big topic here, not just this week, 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: but you know, you can look back at the Rams 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: game and some of the you know, where they came 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: up short against Detroit. It's finishing drives, it's finishing defensive possessions, 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: it's getting takeaways and clutch situations, and the Packers have 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: just not been able to to dring that together consistently. 19 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: The question I have, and I think everybody has, is 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: what do you have to do to accomplish that. What 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: does it come down to. And you know, in meetings 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: this week and and all the things that they're gonna 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: be sitting down and discussing, it's gonna be trying to 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: figure that out. Because now you're taking out a Miami 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Dolphins team that's been pretty well conditioned for fourth quarter situations. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: They've had some pretty close games two here to be 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: five and four this part of the season. Packers have 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: to respond. Yeah, And I don't want to beat a 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: dead horse here, but I tell you, when you start 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: to think about all of the plays and all of 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: the regrets in the fourth quarter of the last couple 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: of weeks, you know, the sack by Aaron Donald on 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: third down for the Rams, the fumble on the kickoff, 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the three yard run by Todd Gurley on third and 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: six when you had a chance to to make that 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: actually what could have been a fairly tough field goal 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: for Greg's airline go to New England, fumbled by Aaron Jones, 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: another sack on a third down that leads to a 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: three and out, the defense gets caught on a trick play, 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: a mistackle on the Josh Gordon play. All of these 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: things happening in the fourth quarter. Now, that's not to 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: say there aren't mistakes in the first three quarters. The 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Packers certainly have their things to overcome there as well. 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: But when they start to pile up like that in 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, man, they make it just it just 46 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: makes it so hard to overcome. Well, you have to 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: buckle down because you're going up against the clock at 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: that point in time. Yeah, you can make mistakes earlier 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: in the game, and the Packers made a handful of 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: those against New England, but you had time on your side, 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: you had opportunities to respond. But when you're playing Tom Brady, 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: as we said all week long, Mike, you're just not 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of opportunities to be able to 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: have a lapse or a misq. You have to, you know, 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: be on top of your game throughout that to put 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: yourself in a position to win that football game. And 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing. The Packers are going to come up 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: on a stretch here and you got we'll see exactly 59 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: who's gonna start a quarterback. It sounds I could probably 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: still be brock Osweiler with this capsule injury that you know, 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill's dealing with but you got him coming up, 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: you have Russell Wilson, and you got Kirk Cousins again. Um, 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: all those guys are very capable. Wilson has played at 64 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: the highest point of this game. But it is gonna 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what the Packers can do against them, because, Okay, 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: you're no longer facing Golf and Brady, who are get 67 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: the ball out, quick type up tempo offenses. Now you're 68 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: gonna see a little bit more traditional stuff. So I 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: think they need to take some of the lessons they 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: learned because there were positives to be drawn from these games, 71 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: But now can you incorporate that to beat some teams 72 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: that I think the Green Bay Packers at the beginning 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: of two thousand eight team, when they were laying out 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: the schedule, felt that they could be Yeah, I agree 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: with you. I agree with you entirely. The other thing 76 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: we need to definitely talk about with regards to Mike 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: McCarthy's news conference is the injury update. Um, it sounds 78 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: as though right tackle Brian Bulaga has avoided anything so 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: serious with the knee injury, but his evaluation is ongoing. 80 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: His availability for this week at this point is is 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: certainly in question. Jason Spriggs stepped in for him at 82 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: right tackle for the remainder of the Patriots game and 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: would presumably be that guy again. Not such good news though. 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: On Geronimo Allison, it sounds like his groin injury that 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: he sustained in practice last week that kept him out 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: of the New England game, it sounds like it's a 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: pretty big deal, potentially a real core muscle thing that 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: could require a procedure, so he could be out for 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: several weeks. On the defensive side, um Blake Martinez um amazing, 90 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: quite frankly, that he came back in the game after 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the ankle injury. He turned his ankle when he was 92 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: chasing after Tom Brady on that one play. He did 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: come back in. Now there's a lot of swelling apparently 94 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: that he's dealing within that ankle, So again he's going 95 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: to be another another wait and C situation. And then 96 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Kevin King with the hand string injury, Mike McCarthy labeled 97 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: him as being hard pressed to be able to play 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: this week. And you know, we all know whether you're 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: talking grin injury, hamstring injury, those types of things usually 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: those are not just one week deals, though, nothing's been 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: announced that that that anything with King is as serious 102 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: as it is with Alison. So what do you make 103 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: of all of that news? Because the Packers came out 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: of the bye week as healthy as can be, and 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: now here we are talking about a long list of injuries. 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: With the exception of Blaga, We're gonna put him as 107 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: an outlier right now because it sounds like whatever the situation, 108 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: maybe for Sunday, it's not going to be long term. 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: But let's look at the other three individuals. When you 110 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: have Allison, when you have King, and you have Martinez, 111 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: who are the next men up at those positions for 112 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: the most part their rookies, It's your Orn berks Is, 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: it's your Marquise Valdo's Scantlings, and is your Josh Jacksons. 114 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson was the one that subbed in for King 115 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: last week. I think going into this game and again, 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see how this injury report plays out. 117 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: There's three practices between now and Sunday, but this could 118 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: pretend actually be the most important game I believe in 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: the season for that rookie class and what could potentially 120 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: be asked of them. I do tip my cap to 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Antonio Morrison. I thought Morrison played a pretty good ball game, 122 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: considering he wasn't even in the game at the beginning. 123 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: It was Orn Burke's who started. Then Jermaine Whitehead goes in, 124 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: and then Morrison ends up being the signal caller, you know, 125 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: the communicator in the second half during the stretch that 126 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: like Martinez was gone and he and he may hold 127 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: that job this week. Not to cut you off, but 128 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and how they like to feed Frank 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Gore and what you're trying to do with their running game, 130 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: maybe Antonio Morrison does play a much bigger role this week. 131 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: But I said an inbox too much. I think that 132 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: this could potentially with the understanding that sounds like King 133 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: won't go, this could be a huge game for Josh Jackson. 134 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: I think we've been talking about this young man and 135 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: getting opportunities and being able to get out there. The 136 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Packers have used him six different ways from Sunday right now. 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: He was even playing that hybrid linebacker spot a little 138 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: bit after Jermaine white had left in that dime pseudo package. 139 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: So I'm very interested to see him. I think he's 140 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: done some really good things at this point in the 141 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: season and it's just been mostly about trying to find 142 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to get on the field. But 143 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Shad Bryland started the other's opposite corner last week. He's 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: back in the fold. He said, he feels like he'll 145 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: benefit from being able to kind of get his feet 146 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: underneath him in that game against New England. The Packers 147 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: have felt good about their depth at with the secondary 148 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: for a while, and it's not just one or two 149 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: players deep. They feel like they can go deep in 150 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: multiple spots. They very well may have to test that 151 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: going into Sunday against the Dolphins. Yeah. Well, we've certainly 152 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: seen over the course of the last several weeks what 153 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Marquez Veldes Scantling can do when his number is called. 154 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: We talked about it on the show yesterday. Three catches 155 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: for a hunter in one yards. They happen to all 156 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: come in the third quarter of that game. But with 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: Alison's injury sounding like it could be multiple weeks, Valdes 158 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: Scantling is going to get a lot of snaps and 159 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: based based on how he's performed, Aaron Rodgers certainly has 160 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: shown confidence in him. I think he's as much as 161 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: Rogers has talked about wanting to get the ball more 162 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: to Adams and not forgetting about Adams, even when maybe 163 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: the defenses are are trying to do some things to 164 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: take him away. If Valda Scantling is getting open, he's 165 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: he's becoming a tough cover because if you want to 166 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: devote extra attention to Davante Adams or Jimmy Graham, Valde 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Scantling is tough to cover one on one because he's 168 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: got the combination of size and speed. Yeah he does. 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: And that's actually what stands out to me the most 170 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: right now is that you knew what you're getting four 171 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: point three seven speed or whatever it was him coming 172 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: out of the combine. You knew what his size and 173 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: his measurables and his length look like. But it really 174 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: until you take that individual and put them on the 175 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: field with Aaron Rodgers, there's just so many unknowns. I 176 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: think over these last five games, what we've learned about 177 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: Marquis Valda Scantling is the scene the lights are not 178 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: too bright for him. He's going to be able to 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: go in there and operate within the offense and make 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: the necessary adjustments, and yeah, is he gonna be able 181 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: to run the rout tree like Davante Adams right now. 182 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, But I think the Packers have done a 183 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: really good job of scheming stuff that works for him. 184 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: And actually, I think he's demonstrated really good footwork off 185 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage that he doesn't always have to 186 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: rely on his speeds. He gained separation downfield. He's a 187 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: legit playmaker. The fact that I tweeted this yesterday twenty 188 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: two point one or twenty one point two, I forget 189 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: what it is. His average yards per catch right now 190 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: second in the league to DeShawn Jackson, among you know, 191 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: qualifying receivers with enough snaps and in playing time. So 192 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with them, and if they have 193 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: to proceed here for a number of weeks with Marcus 194 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Valdes scantling, is that pseudo three or whatever you wanna 195 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: call it. I think he's shown in these past few 196 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: games that you know, he's up for that task. Yeah. 197 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: My favorite catch of his maybe so far this season, 198 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: was the one he made. It was two plays before 199 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter in New England, and hey, 200 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: I take nothing away from the great move off the 201 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage for the forty yard touchdown against the Rams, 202 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: and that ball on the crossing route against the Patriots 203 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: just a pinpoint throw by Rogers right on the fingertips, 204 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: really really solid catch. But the third down play right 205 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: before that one kind of a broken play a little 206 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: bit and Valdes scantling is down the sideline and Rodgers 207 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: puts it up there and gives him a chance to 208 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: could play, you know, contested ball down the sideline. He's 209 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: got to he's got to fight the cornerback for it 210 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: and keep his feet in bounds and make the play. 211 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: And those are the types of plays that that can 212 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: flip things. That's the play that got the Packers going 213 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: on that drive, even though that was the one the 214 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: drive that ended with with the Aaron Jones fumble. But man, 215 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: you make contested catches like that, there is no better 216 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: way to earn confidence from your quarter. I mean, that's 217 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: what Geronimo Alison did. I mean, that's what Randall Cobb did. 218 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: It's certainly what Davante Adams did to get to this 219 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: point in his career. And Dude, this thing that happened 220 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: in this game against the Patriots, the amount of attention 221 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: they put on Adams with having Gilmour trail him and 222 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: covers the entire time and shadow him. Uh, that's going 223 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: to continue happening. Defenses are going to continue to put 224 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: a premium on being able to limit his opportunities. I 225 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: get what Aaron Rodgers was saying. You still want to 226 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: get him the football, but it's going to be incumbent 227 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: on the Marcus Valdes Scantlings and even the Jimmy Graham's too, 228 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: if they get opportunities, if they get single man defense 229 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: against them, you gotta catch the ball and you gotta produce. 230 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: And to fail that Scantlings credit, he's done that. Yeah, 231 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: you gotta make the play, no doubt about it, very quickly. West. 232 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Packers fans, you probably have noticed these Quick Trip Cruba 233 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Coffee cups we've had on the set here for the 234 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: last few shows. But to be sure to stop in 235 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: at your local Quick Trip pick up your Packers cup 236 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: today eight nine cent refills on your Cafe Cruba coffee 237 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: all season long. You and I had some free Cafe 238 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Cruba coffee last week's right, we did pretty tasty. He said, 239 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: that was that was all right? That was all right, Hey, West, 240 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a loaded question at you. Oh yes, 241 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: let's do it. Um. We heard from Aaron Rodgers after 242 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: Sunday night's game, very critical of himself, certainly taking his 243 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: share of the responsibility in terms of not playing up 244 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: to his own standards and as such, the offense not 245 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: clicking in the way that he would like it too, 246 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: in the way it's been expected to. So I want 247 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: to throw this question out at you. How much of 248 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: what's going on here with the Packers can get fixed 249 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers simply starts playing better. I think quite 250 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: a bit. I mean, he's your leader, he's your you know, 251 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: your colonel. I mean, he is the guy that the 252 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: rest of the team is gonna beat to his drum. 253 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: I mean, he just is the player that I think 254 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: when you look at an MVY two time m v 255 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: P that's won a Super Bowl, that's done the things 256 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: that Rogers has done throughout his career. The defense, the offense, 257 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: they really do, you know, kind of radiate to him 258 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: in terms of where they draw their energy from. And 259 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: I went back and I mentioned this in inbox and 260 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Tuesday's inbox because somebody had asked about you know, there's 261 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: no relax or run the table phrases yet and it 262 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: wasn't really a phrase. In two thousand and sixteen, I 263 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: you and I left FedEx Field, we had this conversation. 264 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Something felt different. Even though it was a loss. It 265 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: felt like they found something in that game. Whether it 266 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: was Jared Cook or whatever it was, they found something 267 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: that they were going to be able to grab onto 268 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: and build momentum from. The Packers need that now. Davante 269 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: Adams said that after the game too. They need a 270 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: game and they need a winning streak, Mike, is what 271 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: they really need. You need to be able to put 272 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: together two straight victories and know what that feels like. Again, 273 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: I know it was kind of a punch line in 274 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: Bowl Durham, but it's true. I should say it was 275 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: actually a major league It's true. You get you get 276 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: on a winning streak. Every the water taste better, the 277 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: air is cleaner, you just feel good about yourself. That's 278 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: where they're at right now, and getting back to the 279 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: Rogers point sixty nine whatever is completion percentage is right now. 280 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: The thing I look for is that when those completion 281 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: percentages higher, not just Aaron Rodgers NFL quarterbacks, it signals 282 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: efficiency in the offense. I don't think it's it's a 283 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: red herring or anything like that. I think it's just 284 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a representation that the efficiency hasn't been where it's need 285 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: to be. There haven't been a completed catch after completed catch, 286 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: and that's what the Packers are looking for now going 287 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: into Miami. Yeah, I'll say this about Aaron Rodgers because 288 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: he does. He does need to play better, and he's 289 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: admitted it. He's not playing up to his own standards. 290 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: What Aaron Rodgers does for this team is he gives 291 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: the entire team a bigger margin for error. I rattled 292 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: off earlier in the show all of the fourth quarter 293 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: mistakes that have happened over the last two weeks that 294 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: have cost the Packers a couple of games that they 295 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: very well could have won. The only one really that 296 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: is on Rogers was the one we actually talked about 297 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: in yesterday's show, where he admitted on the failed pass 298 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: to e Q should have held the ball and taken 299 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: the deep shot to Davante Adams and maybe that's the 300 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: play that flips the game in the fourth quarter, and 301 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. He took responsibility for that. The other 302 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: mistakes that we've seen from Aaron Rodgers the other regrets, 303 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: most of those have really been in the earlier parts 304 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: of the game. And that's where I say it's Rogers 305 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: that if he's playing better, he'll give this team a 306 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: greater margin for error, because nobody's going to play a 307 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: perfect fourth quarter, and the Packers have had too many 308 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: mistakes in the fourth quarter. But he's the guy who 309 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: will give them a chance to overcome a fourth quarter 310 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: mistake because of maybe some fewer errors earlier on that 311 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: that he's taken responsibility for. I I hope I've made 312 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: some sense. No, I know what you're saying, because here's 313 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: the thing. Everybody wants to know why the offense hasn't 314 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: been clicking the way they wanted to click and doing 315 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the things that they felt they were capable of doing. 316 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: And it's not one player. I think Rogers, if if 317 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: he plays well, everybody plays up to that that level. 318 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the point we're trying to make, and 319 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: there just hasn't been enough of that. There hasn't been 320 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: enough playmaking. There hasn't been enough you know, guys coming 321 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: up clutch in a key situation to turn a football game. 322 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: Packers have won some football games. They want a game 323 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: very convincingly. But it's been the games when you look 324 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: at the difference. You go to Washington, Mike, you go 325 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: to Detroit, and you look at those last two victories, 326 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: those last two defeats. I guess in that case with 327 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Patriots, all those teams, when they 328 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: needed to put the foot on your throat, so to speak, 329 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: they did it. They did. That's where the Packers are 330 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: trying to get right now. That's where you get away 331 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: from the heart attack games. That's where you get away from, 332 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, having to to go down to the sixty 333 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: minute wire. You want to play sixty minutes, but you 334 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: also want to be able to put this thing away too. 335 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,479 Speaker 1: And the Packers are trying to find that happy media. 336 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: All right, quickly, West, It's time to enter the Cousins 337 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Subs Best Seats in the House promotion. You and a 338 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: guest could win a chance to kick back on the 339 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: fifty yard line in Aisle. 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Very frustrating to see, I think, 350 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: especially on the defensive side, after a really pretty respectable 351 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: effort against Tom Brady through three quarters, the way things 352 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: kind of fell apart in that fourth quarter. I really 353 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: thought that that goal line stand in the third quarter 354 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: in New England was going to be the thing that 355 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: just that that really lifted up this defense and and 356 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: potentially was was going to be the you know, the 357 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: signature moment. It didn't happen that way, but that goal 358 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: line stand, I think is still something for this defense 359 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: to build on because they're going to be in that 360 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: situation again. And yeah, they're not always going to go 361 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down, but man, you get gold 362 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: to go inside the five yard line, you know, one 363 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: or two times here down the stretch West. If the 364 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Packers defense can hold a team to a field goal 365 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: in that situation, it could change a game. Yeah, And 366 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: the nice thing about that play too is that they 367 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: held and then J. K. Scott had one of his 368 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: best points of the season out of his own end 369 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: zone for forty eight yards and then you got a 370 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: holding penalty. Completely flipped the field position battle. I think 371 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: during this this little whatever you wanna call it, dull drums, 372 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: losing streak, whatever, one of the things that Packers have 373 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: really been struggling with is the controlling the field position battle. 374 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: It's ultimately what played into them sort of probably, you know, 375 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: coming up short against Los Angeles. So yeah, that that 376 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: was a huge moment because not only did the defense 377 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: feel good about itself being able to hold its ground, 378 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: you know, the half yard line, but it also flipped 379 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: the field position in addition to keeping points off the board. 380 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: The biggest thing for the defense I think right now 381 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: is the fact that exactly what you predicted, you had 382 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: a guy like Mike Daniel step up make some plays 383 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: when a little bit more attention was going to Kenny Clark. 384 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: You still are working on the pass rush. We knew 385 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: that was going to be an outlier against the Patriots 386 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: because of just how quickly Brady gets the ball out. 387 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: In the times in which he does hold onto the football, 388 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: he finds a receiver in the vicinity of a ball 389 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: and is able to throw it away from the pocket. 390 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: So that being said, these last two weeks have been tough. 391 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: They've been hard, but you've also played two of the 392 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: top offenses in the league. You've played a Hall of 393 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: Fame quarterback, you played some guy that might end up 394 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: being the m v P this season depending on how 395 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: things work out for Patrick Mahomes, and I'm speaking about 396 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. So that being said, now you get the Dolphins. 397 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: Now you get a more grindy, gritty type football team. 398 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: They're just trying to move the chains right now with 399 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: what they're doing with Frank Gore. Yeah, you gotta keep 400 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: in mind Kenny Stills, but I think this is the defense. 401 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: Whatever has happened in the back of your mind right now, 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: you have to keep your focus on the Dolphins with 403 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: the understanding that you've been tested the last two weeks, 404 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: and not to say that this is gonna be a 405 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: let up, but you're also not going to be seeing 406 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: Jared Goffer Tom Brady either. Yeah, and what I really 407 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: liked about that goal line stand too, because I took 408 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: a look at it really closely, and it's my what 409 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: you might have missed feature on the website for this week. 410 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: So if you want to check out the plays all 411 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: four of the place from the one yard line, please 412 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: do so. But there were it was a good six 413 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: or seven different Packers defenders in the course of those 414 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: four plays that really stepped up into I mean, Mike 415 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: Daniels and Blake Martinez against those two running plays on 416 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: first and second down just made outstanding place. Josh Jones 417 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: made a great play on on the second down. There. 418 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: What I really liked from the past covered standpoint was 419 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: on third down. It was a classic pick play. Adelman 420 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: and Chris Hogan over on the right side where Brady 421 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: is rolling out. They run the pick play and Jaire 422 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Alexander and Tremont Williams defended that perfectly. There was no there, 423 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: there was no stumble, there was no collision, there was 424 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: no wasted steps. Both of those guys were covered. And 425 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: then Josh Jackson getting bats the ball down um to 426 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: force to force the fourth down. That kind of defense, 427 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: that's that's what you have to build on. And I 428 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: think this path kers defense is starting to do that. Um. Now, 429 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: if things can start clicking, as Aaron Rodgers likes to 430 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: say on offense, I really think this team can get 431 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: something going. And if you start getting some takeaways more 432 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: consistently on defense, then the wind is really in the 433 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: back of your sales. So that's what I'm gonna be 434 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: looking for in this game against Miami when we preview 435 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: that show in in that game in tomorrow's episode. All Right, 436 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: with that, we will sign off on this edition of 437 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: Packers on Scripted. Be sure to follow all of our 438 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: coverage of the team on Packers dot com on Twitter. 439 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: He's at west Hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers 440 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See 441 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: you next time.