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Speaker 1: We are joined now by our friend, former Phillies general

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Speaker 1: manager and current co host of The Philly Show, Rubin

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Speaker 1: Amaro Junior. Hello, good to see you. Big week for

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Speaker 1: Andrew Painter. He makes the team and he gets engaged.

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Speaker 1: What did the Phillies see about him that led him

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Speaker 1: to break camp with the big club? Rubin?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to see you guys.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, I probably should be flipping my

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Speaker 3: hat or how come I don't have the backwards hat

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Speaker 3: look on the memo?

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Speaker 2: What am I doing?

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Speaker 4: You also missed out on on Philly Show on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: You weren't there. Your two cos there, but you weren't there.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sort of on vacation here in Clearwater,

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Speaker 3: my friend. It's golf and it's entertainment, but I am

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Speaker 3: watching some baseball too, and I really enjoyed watching Andrew

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Speaker 3: Painter pitch this spring. I mean, he handled himself extremely well. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: he's famous, he's been around for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's been touting him.

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Speaker 3: Was one of the best pitching prospects since Paul Schemes.

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Speaker 2: No disrespect to.

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Speaker 3: Paul, but but this kid, he's got great stuff. He's

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Speaker 3: got the body, he's got the mentality, he's got the maturity,

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Speaker 3: and finally he's healthy. I know he didn't have a

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Speaker 3: great season last year, but I think more about it

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Speaker 3: was more about making sure that he was healthy through

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Speaker 3: that that TJ that he had a couple of years back.

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Speaker 3: So I like the way through the ball, particularly in

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Speaker 3: his last outing, faced a very good lineup and through strikes.

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Speaker 2: He's command seems better.

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Speaker 3: They made a little minor adjustment in his delivery, got

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Speaker 3: him closer and closer to where he was, you know,

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Speaker 3: a few years back before he had the surgery, as

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Speaker 3: far as his arm angle is concerned, and he's feeling

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Speaker 3: confident throwing three or four quality pitches, and you know

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Speaker 3: he's going to be pitching in the five hole for

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Speaker 3: the Phillies. And I think that's one of the biggest strengths.

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Speaker 5: They have when they When I saw him pitch before

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Speaker 5: as Tommy John surgery that he had, I saw tall athletic,

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Speaker 5: moved down down the hill really well and was able

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Speaker 5: to command. Was that so easy to watch now that

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Speaker 5: he's back, and then tough to watch because of the

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Speaker 5: fact that he had command issues and were those command issues?

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Speaker 5: Those questions asked or answered this spring training about the

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Speaker 5: command issues against good enough competition, Like you just said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little concerned about what he went

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Speaker 3: through last year at Triple A because he didn't he

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Speaker 3: didn't get a lot of swing a miss.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get there.

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Speaker 3: There was something going on, and I think that the

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Speaker 3: folks here in Philadelphia, Caleb Coffam as the pitching coach,

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Speaker 3: and their overall pitching development is very, very good here.

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Speaker 3: They've seemed to pick apart some things that they saw

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Speaker 3: that might get him back to where he was prior

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Speaker 3: when you saw him and when I saw him the first.

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Speaker 2: Time getting off the mountain.

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Speaker 3: The thing about this kid that I have a lot

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Speaker 3: of confidence in is that not only is he a

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Speaker 3: super mature kid, but for a man this size and

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Speaker 3: of this age, he actually and you guys know this,

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Speaker 3: the better athlete you have, the better chance you have

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Speaker 3: to be able to repeat your delivery and to get

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Speaker 3: back to the command that you've had. At one point,

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Speaker 3: my concern was whether he was going to be healthy enough.

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Speaker 3: But it's clear that he's healthy. The ball's coming out

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Speaker 3: of his hand great now. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 3: him being able to make the adjustments of being a

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Speaker 3: Major leaguer, and you know, that's a big one. It's

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Speaker 3: a big adjustment. But I do think that he's got

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Speaker 3: the poise, that he's got the confidence, and I also

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Speaker 3: do believe that he has the athleticism, which is an

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Speaker 3: important one for me to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 3: to pitch well even when he may struggle at times Ruben.

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Speaker 4: Another one of their starters that just was given a

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Speaker 4: huge extension is Jonathan Sanchez. Now Jim Bowden, who I

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Speaker 4: completely disagree with, is like, this is a terrible, terrible

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Speaker 4: move for the Phillies. Why are they doing this? I

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Speaker 4: love this for both sides. I love for Sanchez and

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Speaker 4: I love it for the Phillies because you lock up

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Speaker 4: a guy before a CBA all the things, whether he's

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Speaker 4: better and better every single year. Plus with who knows

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Speaker 4: what's happening with Wheeler, you know, Nola's getting older. Lozardo

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Speaker 4: signs an extension. So you have two guys locked up

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Speaker 4: for many years. Now, you have Painter coming. What would

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Speaker 4: you have done this as the GM when you were

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Speaker 4: the GM of the Phillies And why is there hate

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Speaker 4: about this? I would think Philly, especially Philly fans, should

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I totally agree with you, Aja, and yes I

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Speaker 3: would have done this. I mean, this guy was under

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Speaker 3: a great contract, but they didn't really tear it up.

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Speaker 2: All they really did was add on a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: There was no question in my mind that they were

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Speaker 3: going to pick up that those two option option years anyway.

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Speaker 3: And that's what Dave Dombrowski said, Like, why not tack

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Speaker 3: on a couple of more years at a reasonable price.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy who's an elite starter

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Speaker 3: right now. Those guys are going for what forty million

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Speaker 3: dollars a year, and so they've already got him at

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Speaker 3: a great price.

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Speaker 2: Add on a couple of years. This guy takes care

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Speaker 2: of himself.

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Speaker 3: His transformation might be one of the the coolest things

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Speaker 3: I've seen in the history of me watching baseball. This

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Speaker 3: is a guy who came to the big leagues from

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Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Rays who was basically un armed.

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Speaker 2: He was a thrower. M he's a rock thrower. We

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Speaker 2: call him rock throwers.

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Speaker 3: He had no idea where the ball was going to

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Speaker 3: throw ninety seven ninety eight miles an hour, didn't really

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Speaker 3: have a lot of you know didn't have any command

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Speaker 3: of a secondary pitch. He now has one of the

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Speaker 3: best change ups in the game, no disrespect to Terrek's scooble.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the best left handers in the game,

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Speaker 3: no disrespect to Terrek's scooble, and he is now developing

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Speaker 3: a better and better slider that he can.

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Speaker 2: Use as a little bit more of a put away pitch.

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Speaker 2: He's a three pitch pitcher.

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Speaker 3: He's an excellent athlete, he's a great kid, and he

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Speaker 3: continues to strive to be great. I think this is

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Speaker 3: a win win for both sides, and you.

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Speaker 2: Don't see that all that often. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I guess everybody wants to hate on every move that

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Speaker 3: every team makes. They always have an opinion about it.

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Speaker 3: But in my estimation, great move, and I applaud both

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Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez and the Phillies on this. It's a great thing. Hey,

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Speaker 3: the best way to win baseball games. Guess what, guys,

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Speaker 3: it's starting pitching. You gotta value that. The Phillies value it.

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Speaker 3: They know that's an important part of what they what

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Speaker 4: By the way, I called him Jonathan, sorry before everyone

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Speaker 4: kills me.

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Speaker 5: I know it's Christopher. Sorry.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, sorry Phillies fans, sorry people in the chat,

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Speaker 4: and we're talking about seven hundred and eighty million people

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Speaker 4: plus all the guys who are getting sent down. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: if everyone's want to make a mistake, Rubin, I apologize.

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Speaker 4: I should just hear on TV they call their first

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Speaker 4: or last name ain no room. But anyways, so would

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Speaker 4: this mean so they have WIZARDO locked up, they have

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Speaker 4: Sanchez now locked up, they have Nola for a few

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Speaker 4: more years. Does this mean Painter could be next in

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Speaker 4: line for an extension type of thing if he may.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they'll do it before the season starts,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's possible. I would think that they're at

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Speaker 3: least discussing it amongst themselves. Again, you know the fact

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Speaker 3: Now it's been a couple of years since he had it,

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Speaker 3: and it seems like he's going to be healthy.

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Speaker 2: But why not?

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Speaker 3: Why not you know, build that you know that, build

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Speaker 3: that roster with with quality young arms. I do think

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Speaker 3: that the Phillies value the importance of starting pitching and

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Speaker 3: uh and I think that's something that has been you know,

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Speaker 3: the pressure on that bullpen as much. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: It happens.

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Speaker 3: But I think that the Phillies do a really good

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised at all if they wouldn't consider Painter

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Speaker 5: What is that process like for you? You obviously like

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Speaker 5: the player, you know the player? Is it a hey,

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Speaker 5: you know what ownership comes to you when you were

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Speaker 5: there mister Montgomery, and now John Middleton comes to Dave

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Speaker 5: don Browski and says, hey, we have some money to

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Speaker 5: be able to lock up or does Dave den Browski say, hey,

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Speaker 5: we'd like to lock him up based on this like

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Speaker 5: you went to mister Montgomery when when you were the GM.

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Speaker 5: What's that process like before you even get to the

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Speaker 5: player's actual extension.

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Speaker 3: Typically we get together with the boys in the office

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Speaker 3: and we start thinking about, okay, long term, what is

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Speaker 3: this guy's make up, Like, is this guy going to

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Speaker 3: continue to try to be the best.

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Speaker 2: Player he can be? Is he a winning player?

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Speaker 3: Is the make up the kind of guy that we

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Speaker 3: want to put this money into long term, because you know,

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Speaker 3: we wanted to develop winning players. And so once we

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Speaker 3: started having those discussions, then we looked at comps, you know,

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Speaker 3: long term deals, what the marketplace is bearing right now,

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Speaker 3: and then try to set up.

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Speaker 2: Something that that made some sense.

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Speaker 3: And then and at that point we'd probably start to

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Speaker 3: Montgomery when I was at the Helm and discuss it

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Speaker 3: and you know, basically give them our memo, Hey, these

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Speaker 1: Rubin Philadelphia is a wonderful place. It is also a

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, obviously to win, and there's no question

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Speaker 2: And I think Rob welcomes that.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just credibility, man. I mean, listen, they

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Speaker 3: I'm across the street with the boys, Ricky bo, Ben Davis,

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Speaker 1: Pledge pin, remember that Ruben Amar Junior. Of course you

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Speaker 1: bet MGM futures al East Division winner Yankees at plus

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Speaker 1: one to eighty, going all the way down to the

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Speaker 1: Rays at plus twenty five hundred. So let's start there

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Speaker 1: with the East Division winner. Eric, what say you?

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Speaker 5: I said, there's just not enough value here, unless unless

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Speaker 5: you go with the Orioles, which I don't think they

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Speaker 5: have enough to win the division. I think they could

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Speaker 5: be a playoff team. Just not enough value. I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the Red Sox have enough have enough

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Speaker 5: offense for me, I guess at plus three hundred. If

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Speaker 5: I would definitely take it. But I still think it's

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Speaker 5: the rede I think it's the Blue Jays or Yankees

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Speaker 5: division here.

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Speaker 1: AJ should the Blue Jays be ahead of the Yanks

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Speaker 1: With what we talked about at the top of the show, days.

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Speaker 4: Did win the division last year? No, the Yankees are

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Speaker 4: getting back. Garrett Cole at some point. They're gonna get

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Speaker 4: Rodon back at some point, I mean. But also let's

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Speaker 4: not forget. You know, they're trying to entice people. They

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Speaker 4: don't want to put the Yankees too high because then

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Speaker 4: they'll if the Yankees do win the division, they lose money.

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Speaker 4: So let's also not forget how this works.

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Speaker 5: But I think that, yes, the Blue jay.

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Speaker 4: Should be ahead of them, but they're not, And that's fine.

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Speaker 4: That's fine, But I kind of agree with there. There's

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Speaker 4: not a ton of value on this list. The Blue

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Speaker 4: Jays would be, for me the one because they did

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Speaker 4: win the division last year. The Red Sox aren't high enough.

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Speaker 4: The Oriols maybe, but I still I don't know that

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Speaker 4: the Orioles are better than the third best team in

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Speaker 4: this division when all is said and done, just because

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Speaker 4: I still worry about their pitching a little bit. So

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Speaker 4: I mean, if I had to take one, I would

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Speaker 4: take the Blue Jays and throw one hundred to win

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Speaker 4: two sixty. That's still a nice little payday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yankees, Blue Jay's, Red Sox, Orioles raise in that order.

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Speaker 1: Al Central Division winner Tigers. I guess, no real surprise here, guys.

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Speaker 1: At plus one ten, the Royals at plus two twenty five,

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Speaker 1: going all the way down to AJ's White Sox at

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Speaker 1: plus three thousand. That seems high for the White Sox.

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Speaker 5: What say you, e K, I'm gonna go Royals here, Okay.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm locking it

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Speaker 5: in that the Royals are going to win it, but

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Speaker 5: I think it's close enough to say they would win

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Speaker 5: it at plus two twenty five. Yes, the Guardians came

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Speaker 5: out of nowhere because of the Tigers collapse. To me,

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Speaker 5: I think the Tigers. If you're making me choose a team,

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Speaker 5: I'm taking the Tigers. But again, when I look at

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Speaker 5: and I think I looked it up. The Royals were

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Speaker 5: paying out at plus one hundred, so straight even money

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Speaker 5: to make the playoffs, So I'll take that. I think

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Speaker 5: it's going to be the Tigers and Royals all year.

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Speaker 5: I think both teams improved. I think the Tigers didn't

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Speaker 5: you know, are they going to make the adjustment that

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Speaker 5: they didn't make in the second half offensively, because it's

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Speaker 5: it was a good offense in the first half. Probably

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Speaker 5: after even you know, even a little past the first half.

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Speaker 5: It was a good offense, but they collapsed. Are they

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Speaker 5: going to take that collapse or their new pitching rotation

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Speaker 5: additions and Valdez and and Verlander going to help them?

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Speaker 5: I think so. But the value is definitely there for

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Speaker 5: me to put something on the Royals.

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Speaker 1: Aj Pierzinski. What if the Chicago White Sox shocked the world.

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Speaker 4: I just did Barstool Chicago podcast saying and they were

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Speaker 4: talking about that, and it would be a shock, that's

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Speaker 4: for sure, especially in this division. But the Guardians to me,

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Speaker 4: are the team that they won the division last year,

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Speaker 4: didn't they? I'm pretty sure the Guardians.

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Speaker 1: Won after the collapse by the Tigers.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, how are the White Sox so

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Speaker 4: far behind the Twins? What if the Twins for this

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Speaker 4: offseason and they traded away like Ano their team last year,

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Speaker 4: and the White Sox are behind the Twins in this

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Speaker 4: That's what's funny to me. Other than that, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I guess the Royals would be the one. The Tigers

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Speaker 4: are the favorites clearly, but why not The Guardians always

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Speaker 4: seem to find a way. And Steven votes going for

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Speaker 4: the three Peters, manager of the year.

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Speaker 5: If the White Sox Alana, if the White Sox do

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Speaker 5: win this division, the money, the money that AJ is

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Speaker 5: going to get after putting one hundred down and winning

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Speaker 5: three thousand, is not going to is gonna be the

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Speaker 5: least of our issues. It's still not going to pay

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Speaker 5: for meals. Two. We're gonna have an entire year of

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Speaker 5: hearing look at the White Sox. I knew it this

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Speaker 5: whole time. And then AJ is going to be going

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Speaker 5: to Chicago showing us.

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Speaker 1: If you want to you want a World Series where

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Speaker 1: and donning that uniform, you get that ring, You get

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Speaker 1: the right to be insufferable when your team in which

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Speaker 1: you helped win a World Series.

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Speaker 5: Even if the team doesn't want him back. Just the fans, Oh.

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Speaker 1: They want him back. They want him back. They're not

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Speaker 1: a vocal about it, but they do.

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't want it?

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Speaker 1: Look at this guy. Look who doesn't want this guy back?

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Speaker 5: That's Susan Schlusser said, prickly, prickly.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, prickly, I think you need to be pretty.

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Speaker 5: Ten years I wasn't that prickly. Nah, all right, and

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Speaker 5: your two thousand hits, your two thousand hits, say say

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Speaker 5: you keep it around for nineteen years.

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Speaker 1: Last division in the American League the West Marin Mari

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Speaker 1: Narros Marinaidos minus one oh five, Astros plus two seven

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Speaker 1: five all the way down to the Angels plus four thousand,

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Speaker 1: so even worse odds than the White Sox. Like this,

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Speaker 1: not like this, This one's fine.

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Speaker 5: This one's good.

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Speaker 4: That the Mariner should be heavy favorites in this division.

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Speaker 4: And I would almost I would. I would almost put

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Speaker 4: the Rangers that Rangers are the one to me for

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Speaker 4: for the money, that have a better show. I would

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Speaker 4: put the Rangers above the Astros just because again other

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Speaker 4: than after Hunter Brown and the Astros rotation, who you

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Speaker 4: got the biggest thing for me? And you know Altove

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Speaker 4: was on the bus column. Jeremy Peney is hurt right,

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Speaker 4: what is what is Alvarez gonna give him? Carlos Korea

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Speaker 4: coming off his thing and that all you know that

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Speaker 4: we just learned about. Yeah, I would almost want to

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Speaker 4: put the Rangers with the Graham Ivaldi Mackenzie Gore to

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Speaker 4: start out the season, start out a rotation, and that's skip.

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Speaker 4: Schumacher has been known to take teams with lesser talent

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Speaker 4: and lesser things and make them pretty good. See the

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Speaker 4: Marlins before they let him go for No, only god

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Speaker 4: knows why. Uh, but yeah would for me. The Rangers

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Speaker 4: are the one in this But I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: the Marriners win this division. But if you're gonna, if

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Speaker 4: you need need to bet on a team in this division,

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Speaker 4: it's the Rangers.

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Speaker 1: What is more likely that the Angels win the division

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Speaker 1: or the White Sox win the division?

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Speaker 5: More more unlikely, more unlikely? Oh, the Angels, They're in

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Speaker 5: a much better division. I mean the White Sox. I

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Speaker 5: think both teams just are are short. They're short on

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Speaker 5: the season. The Angels, I think I have a more

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Speaker 5: talented team, but they're in a tougher division. To me,

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Speaker 5: I think the best value of any of these three

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Speaker 5: boards that we just had up is exactly what AJ said.

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Speaker 5: The Rangers. It's a team that underperformed last year. It's

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Speaker 5: a team that was still kind of in it at

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Speaker 5: certain points. And do I think they're going to take

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Speaker 5: the Mariners? No?

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Speaker 1: Do?

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Speaker 5: I think the Astros have so many question marks in

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Speaker 5: their rotation. Like AJ said after Hunter Brown, you know

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Speaker 5: my come you got you got guys coming off of injuries.

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Speaker 5: You have just question marks still a winning team. I

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Speaker 5: think those top three teams are going to be over

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Speaker 5: five hundred. Can the Rangers do enough? Can the change

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Speaker 5: in bringing Nemo in and you know, having a little

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Speaker 5: bit more of a younger athletic infield, is that going

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Speaker 5: to help? Well, you lose Marcus Simion's defense, So to me,

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Speaker 5: it's the Mariner's Division. But I think there's the most

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Speaker 5: value of any of these division winners that we're picking

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Speaker 5: in the Rangers.

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