1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: You'll play for all the pros. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: Wound pot stop being. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: What's up you guys? 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: Welcome back into Iheartradios official wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcast. 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: It is Battle from ninety five to seven Big FM, 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: and we are very excited about this. Wwe returns to 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: Green Bay June sixteenth for Monday night Raw. Tickets are 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 3: still available for you right now at ticketmaster dot com. 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: And right now we've got a guy on the show 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: that we have been a fan of for a very 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: very very very very very very very long time. That's 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: the Killer Give it up Killer Days from Killer Days, 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: but give it up for Carrying Cross show to show 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: carry across. Moving on, how are you doing, sir? 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Very good? I'm getting applauses everywhere I'm going. Now, are 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: you guys? Bad guys too? I think? 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you, Normally, I like Eli likes 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: to try to wear t shirts of our guests. I 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I'm gonna go buy a 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: Carrying Cross shirt because I want to support him, especially 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 3: after WrestleMania. But then as I look here on WW 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: shop dot com. Your T shirt is apparently a special 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: event item and will not be shipped no later than Friday, 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: June twenty seventh. 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Is that insane or what? Yeah? Insane? 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: How does that make you feel when you see something 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 3: like that that you are the number one selling shirt, 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: You're up there on the homepage. And I think it 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: all had to do with people saying, hey, you know what, 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: Carrion's my guy, especially after the WrestleMania thing. 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: It feels really good, man. Honestly, you know a lot 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: of people get reactions. A lot of people get reactions. Okay, 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: we don't have to, you know, we don't have to embellish, 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, and blow it up and make it seem 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: like a bigger deal than it actually is. But when 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: a guy's only had one match on Raw all year 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: and he lost that match, and then he goes to 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: SmackDown and he loses the Battle Royal too, and his 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: T shirt's doing this well and the crowd is not 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: cheering for the bad guy, I think that's saying something here. 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: Am I right? Or am I wrong? I believe you 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: here one hundred percent right. 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: And I think WWE's final listening. I've seen photos of 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: people posting up online that you can now buy Carrying 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 3: Cross shirts at the merch stand at these WW shows. 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: It's sitting next to a stone cold Steve Austin shirt 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: on the merch rack. 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: I mean, finally it's. 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: Happening, and we are super excited about this. But I 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: want to go back, just for a brief second, to 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: that post WrestleMania promo that went viral. Everybody was talking 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: about it. I know a lot of people were like, 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 3: who's allan And that's a different time for a different story. 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: But you dropped the name that I a lot of fans, 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: including myself and Eli, marked out about. You dropped Killer 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Cross the name on ww programming for probably I think 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: the first time. With that being said, what was the 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: message to you were aiming to say to both the 61 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: fans and WWE management. 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Look, the message is I can hit home runs too. 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: I am here. I don't want people to feel like 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm ignoring what they want to see out of me. 65 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: I've known for a very long time the challenge is 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: to find the common ground, in the middle ground between 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: what the company needs for the program and what the 68 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: audience needs. And very serendipitously, I just I had a 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: moment that day where I had an open format. And 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, I've even said before, you can't take the 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: audience just being there watching for granted. You have to 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: give them a reason once they tune in as to 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: why they're watching. And another concern that I had that 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: day was people were going to be burned out from 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: watching WrestleMania because it was a very, very big show. 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, usually typically once the wrestling program ends, most 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: people they're not looking to continue watching more wrestling. And 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: I wanted something to happen. I wanted to be responsible 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: for some where people that are leaving the venue, when 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: they're driving home, they hear that something happened on that 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Sam Roberts show. I didn't want to just say, hey, well, 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: these are the people that are gonna be watching, they're 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna see it. I wanted to create a moment where 84 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: people go, I'm going to turn on the Sam Roberts 85 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: podcast and see what this was, and that's what it's 86 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: all about. I'm trying to do that with everything that 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm doing. I want there to be intrigue. I want 88 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: there to be a reason why somebody might watch something 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying or doing. Once or twice. I'm always working 90 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: with callbacks. I'm always working with foreshadowing, and I've even 91 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: said before like with certain heels in the program, they're 92 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: attempting to elicit a negative response to get those booze right. 93 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Pro wrestling is a show, b it's a variety act. 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: So you have a bunch of people that are going 95 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: to listit booze and whatnot the show. It's important, it's 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: important to have like the full spectrum of full menu, 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: so to speak. So what can carrying Cross do? Carrying 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Cross can create thought pieces for people, and obviously that 99 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: thought piece really resonated. 100 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So to echo what you said, I was in 101 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: Vegas last month, and yes, after wrestling the shows, I 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: need a break, I need to rehydrate and stuff. So yeah, 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: it's I agree with what you said about needing a 104 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: little punch after wrestling events and stuff. All Right, So 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: you know one thing that sort of happened that could 106 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: have been a stumbling block, I guess you might say, 107 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: was you know, kind of the disbandment of the Final 108 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: Testament and then you know AOP and Paul Ellering not 109 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: with the company anymore. How how has that shift impacted 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: your trajectory? Either perceived or otherwise. And what lessons have 111 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: you taken from that alliance? You know, kind of finding 112 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: the good from the bad. 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: I guess it just keeps me on my toes more 114 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: than anything. A lesson I learned very early on in 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: my career when I first got started in Vegas was 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: everything can change, like guys, literally as I'm walking through 117 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: the curtain, depending on where people landed at their times 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: in the show and stuff like that, I may get 119 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: different marching orders right as I'm about to walk through 120 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: the curtain, and you need to be able to adapt 121 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: in those types of settings. So I just kind of 122 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: applied that that philosophy and try to put it through 123 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: my creative filter to create engaging content for you guys. 124 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Whenever I'm on like, i may only be in the 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: background for five seconds, but I'm going to make sure 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: that I'm doing something meaningful in those five seconds. You know, 127 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: New Day maybe having a conversation and I may be 128 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: about thirty feet away. What am I doing? Am I 129 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: just standing there? A lot of people will just stand there. 130 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Perhaps I'm wearing a New Day shirt or wearing somebody 131 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: else's shirt, or you know, my hair or my outfit 132 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to create basically trying to squeeze blood from 133 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: a stone. Yeah. 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like a walking East Egg. Like people look 135 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: for you now and like, oh did we see that? 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Let's back up, Oh was there a shirt? I mean, yes, 137 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: that you're like a live action East d Egg. 138 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: And I will say, like you said, I mean it 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: is fun to watch because when you're on screen. I 140 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: mean the thing that I noticed, like you said, you're 141 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: wearing their T shirts or what really pops is when 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: you're like, whatever hairstyle the person has, you have that 143 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: same hairstyle when it was like, uh, you know, aj 144 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: you wear your hair straight just like his an exaber 145 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: and then everything else, which is great and it makes 146 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: you think even more into what is Carrion about to do? 147 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely create create thought pieces for people something to think about. 148 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Is he foreshadowing? Is he manipulating? Is he telling the truth? 149 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Is he telling half the truth? These are the things 150 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: that I'm that I'm trying to incorporate with what I'm 151 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: given and you have to try to. You know, you'll 152 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: be you'll be you'll be given, You'll be given something. 153 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: And let's say this is what we're looking for today. 154 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: I personally as a performer, I have to say to 155 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: myself when I look at that, Okay, I'll give them that. 156 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: What what more can I give people with this very 157 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: little thing in comparison to what other people are getting 158 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: in the show longer for mass live most lifetime to 159 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: nurture that relationship with the audience, how much can I 160 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: get out of this five seconds? You know, I would 161 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: love to be out there, you know, doing a live 162 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: promo with people, especially now with with with the way 163 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm being received. But if this is all I have, 164 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: you don't need to cry and complain about it and 165 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: mope around about it. What can we get out of 166 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: this so people can talk about it and have a 167 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: laugh or or you know, they say, hey, he's telling 168 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: us something here. He's saying this guy's not going to win. 169 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: That guy's not gonna win. He's saying these guys really 170 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: aren't friends. And then you see it play out in 171 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: real time over like a two to four week period. 172 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: So that's that's how I'm approaching all of it, you know, 173 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: with with with the group being gone, I just said 174 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: to myself, Okay, I know what I'm doing. I know 175 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: how to do this. I need to let people know. 176 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: I need to remind them on a weekly basis that 177 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Killer Cross is still in here. You know, the name 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: may change, but the crime scene is going to remain 179 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: the same guy, It's going to remain the same. So 180 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: that's how I just I move forward like that. 181 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's got to be just incredible to say that, 182 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: you know, the Road Warriors manager was. 183 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: Your manager at one point. I mean, that's check that 184 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: off the list. That's incredible, absolutely for sure. 185 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: And of course WW returns the Green Bay June sixteenth, 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: Monday Night Raw Take us still available at ticketmaster dot com. 187 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: And you mentioned foreshadowing and Easter eggs and everything like 188 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: we could go down this rabbit hole. I know that 189 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: there was like a conspiracy theory that Carry and Cross 190 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: predicted the Bloodline breaking up when you had the hourglass 191 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: and you turned it over and then eventually we saw 192 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: the Bloodline break up, and you know, you foreshadow things. 193 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 3: And I want to talk about during a recent segment, 194 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: Scarlett was standing on a ladder, a ladder while you 195 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: confronted Sammy's ain. Was that maybe a subtle hint at 196 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: maybe an involvement in the upcoming ladder match that some 197 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: people like to call money in the bank. 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Well, look, maybe that was just a coincidence. Just depends 199 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: on what you believe in. Some people believe in in 200 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: black magic, other people just believe in coincidences. I mean, 201 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: this is what I'll say about it. We're very, very motivated, 202 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: and very eager to let people know we hear them 203 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: and we see them. I take all of the good 204 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: and the bad, whether it's on social media or it's 205 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: live events, and the consideration. I enjoy winning people over 206 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: and turning them into fans when they weren't fans to 207 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: begin with. I have always been told my entire career 208 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: that when people have seen me perform, they've brought friends 209 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: and family, whether it was their girlfriends, their wives, their boyfriends, 210 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: or their husbands. They didn't like wrestling, they saw my 211 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: act and they became intrigued and started watching it. I've 212 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: always heard that about the entrance guys watching wrestling on 213 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: TV and their their and their wives making fun of 214 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: them about it. Ah, you watch that, and then they 215 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: see they see us walking down the ring, and they 216 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: get real quiet, and they bust out the popcorn and 217 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: the start watching. Like I take such great pride in 218 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: that of being able to create new fans. I also 219 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: think about the fans that are plugged in and want 220 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: to see what I what I know we can do. 221 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: And you know, our hands aren't totally on the wheel, 222 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I just want people to 223 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: know that we hear them and we see them, and 224 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's why you saw a ladder, That's 225 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: why you saw Scarlett hanging out on a ladder. We 226 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: see and hear you. Guys. I don't want you to 227 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: think that we're ignoring you, that's for sure. I'm not 228 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna ignore the fans. Absolutely not. That's killer a pun intended. 229 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, as I say, And you know, going 230 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: back to the Easter Egg thing, I mean with with 231 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: ww's infrastructure, I mean, you could show up on Evolve, 232 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: you could show up on the main event, you can 233 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: show up on n next day, like, you could show 234 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: up anywhere, go back to the old stomping grounds and Rye, 235 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: you could show pop up with Tea like and it 236 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: would make sense, like you you've kind of got that 237 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: character where's kind of like huh oh, I haven't seen 238 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: him on Evolve before, but like now what is he doing? 239 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: Like you're kind of drawing those eyes in. 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I I cultivated that, you know, and 241 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: did that deliberately. No one's gonna tell me we don't 242 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: know what to do with you, right, nobody's gonna tell 243 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: me that, right. You could do anything with this character, right, 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: So we could be anywhere doing anything at any time. 245 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: And you know, you that's where you meet them halfway. 246 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't rely on the machine to just 247 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: hand you everything that you want. You got to work 248 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: for it. You have to show that you're adaptable. You 249 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: can't drag your feet when you're doing something that you 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: may or may not you don't want to be doing, 251 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: like I'm going to try to get everything I possibly 252 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: can out of everything that's given to me. And and 253 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: and it's not just for career advancement. It's because again, 254 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: like I said, you do not take advantage of the 255 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: fact that people are watching. You know, it could be 256 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: the first time they ever see you. You got to 257 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: show him something, You got to give him something. 258 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, I love that answer. So I 259 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: know if you we preface or not, We're not like 260 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: a Gotcha show or anything like that. So I'm not 261 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: trying to throw something on you in there. But I 262 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: do have a John Moxley question. If you're comfortable with it, 263 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: you just you'd mentioned, you know, he did assist you 264 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: connected with Triple H and stuff. Can you elaborate maybe 265 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: on your relationship with him and like, you know, your 266 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: impact directly and then maybe if you you know, to 267 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: kind of break up some troubleism, maybe give him his flowers, 268 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, Dean Ambrose as a character is 269 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: a very very important character for WW. 270 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: John's former WB champion's. He's competed and performed with some 271 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: of the best people in the world. Seth Rollins, Roman 272 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Reigns the Shield. You know, I didn't know him. I 273 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: put out a promo attempting to peak intrigue to see 274 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: if that's a match people wanted. They wanted it. He 275 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: didn't know me. I didn't know him. I really wanted 276 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: to work with him as soon as I found out that, 277 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't signed, and he showed up and 278 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: we didn't know each other. We worked and then as 279 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: soon as we got backstage, it feels I don't know, 280 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to It feels weird talking about somebody 281 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: else giving you compliments about your work it is, but 282 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: he was he was, he was very complimentary, and that's 283 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: where that conversation began. And not to stir the pot, 284 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: but I just you know, I want John to be 285 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: happy wherever he is. I do hope one day, I 286 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: do hope one day that he does come back to WWE, 287 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: because I think it would be insane. I think it 288 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: would be insane. 289 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people think that we 290 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: love to compete with him here. 291 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: I would love to compete with him here so we 292 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: can we can finish what we started. That's what I 293 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: will say. 294 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, of course we're here to talk about 295 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: WWE returning Monday Night, Roll June sixteenth, Green Bay. Take 296 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: us still available ticketmatter dot com. As we're starting to 297 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: kind of wrap up the end of the show, we 298 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: always like to have fun with our guests, and we 299 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: want to know if we were to look at Carrion's 300 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: music playlist and we're just kind of scrolling through, right 301 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: and we all of a sudden come across a song 302 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: on the list that we're like, yeah, we didn't think 303 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: cross listen to this. What is that song on your 304 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: Playlist's people are gonna be like, oh, that's kind of random. 305 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: Probably a few Miles Davis albums. 306 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got good taste, that's not random, 307 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I think for mainstream 308 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: that's kind of random. But no, that's impeccable. 309 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: Yes, those are definitely some solid ones. 310 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: Well, Carrie, it's an honor and a privilege to have 311 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: you on the show. 312 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: Man. 313 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: We've been following your career, We've been fans of yours 314 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: for a very long time, and I just want to 315 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: say thank you again for coming on the show. And 316 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: is there anything you want to say to people watching 317 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: or listening to this right now? 318 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: I want to say thank you to everybody who's in 319 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: my corner, people who have been there from the beginning 320 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: and people that are just getting in the corner now. 321 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I think the criticisms that I've been under since I've 322 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: gotten back from WW have actually helped me improve. I'm 323 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: not one of those people where I'm just like, oh, 324 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: you're not with me, well the hell with you? Like, 325 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: I take it all into consideration. It's made me better, 326 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: It's made me hungrier. And if me being in money 327 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: in the bank is something you want to see or 328 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, me being more heavily featured on the show 329 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: is something you want to see. Stay loud, hold your ground. 330 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: I hear you every single Monday. I'm backstage doing things 331 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: live deep in the building. I can hear you guys 332 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: through the wall. And everybody comes up and he goes, 333 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: did you hear that? I'm like, yes, I did. It 334 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: would be impossible not to. I could be in the 335 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: parking garage and hear them through the wall. Coming to 336 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: a live event is unlike anything that anyone has ever 337 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: experienced until you do it. Come to a live event 338 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: and listen to that. I guarantee you it's ten times 339 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: louder live than it is to the TV speakers. 340 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: And also while you're at that ww live event, by 341 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: carrying cross T shirt at the Merch stand now if 342 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: you can find one. 343 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: They are selling out. So I actually did speak with 344 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: I spoke with Merch this week. They're going to be 345 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: carrying more in stock as well. So this this was, 346 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, to them, a bit of an experiment. 347 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: They want to see how they're doing. I think we 348 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: sold that of every single size last Monday except for large. 349 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: So it's just talking to them and they're going to 350 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: be carrying more as well. So it's like a concert. 351 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: Go buy the shirt first before you get to your seat, 352 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: because you're gonna get mad because it's sold out. Trust me, 353 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: I learned that at Metallica the first night, So I 354 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: learned that, Y buy your Monday night raw tickets and 355 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: uh again carry It's an honor and privilege to have 356 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: you on the show Man. 357 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Guys, you are awesome.