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Speaker 1: Will. Live Golf is redefining how golf is experienced and enjoyed,

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Speaker 1: supercharging the sport across the globe with innovations and team competition,

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Speaker 1: Stars come out for a celebration of sport, entertainment, and

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Speaker 1: So in addition to world class golf, you get a

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Speaker 1: It's all on the line when Live Golf comes to

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Speaker 1: Chicago's bowling Brook Golf Club. I'll be there August eighth

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Speaker 1: through the tenth. Players will be fighting for places at

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Speaker 1: both ends of the individual standings, while the US players

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Speaker 1: This marks another major step forward and Live Golf's commitment

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Speaker 1: to build a more inclusive accessible game of golf. It's

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Speaker 1: That's liv goolf dot com. Or if you can't make

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Speaker 1: it this time, you can follow every shot live and

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Speaker 1: exclusively on Fox Sports. Well, the Live Tour makes it

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Speaker 1: and its unique style and its popularity. And anybody that

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Speaker 1: listens to me knows that I have supported the Live

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Speaker 1: And you know, when I defended Live Golfers, one of

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Speaker 1: So this was a hard decision. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: hard to separate you from that dream. Do you remember, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: And do you remember the emotional moment of that, the epiphany.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do. It wasn't an easy decision. I thought

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Speaker 3: But when this opportunity came along to play this team

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Speaker 1: I think they're initially in Like any change in life,

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Speaker 3: They're starting to realize that we're not doing and we're

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Speaker 1: And I've always felt an underrated part of golf is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you went straight to the pros at seventeen years old. Finally,

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Speaker 1: There's only two athletes in my lifetime, Tiger Woods and

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Speaker 3: But I think golf has become more more entertaining, more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so, Kevin Nah A pleasure to talk

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