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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Ili let's You're a Live on a Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo.

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Speaker 2: He is the great z. How you doing, Bud? How

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Speaker 2: are you all right? You're hanging in?

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Speaker 3: I think you and I are both in the in

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Speaker 3: the same space. It's over. It's toasts. Enough of this.

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Speaker 4: It's uh, it's been brutal. I am as you guys

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Speaker 4: can bear with me here. I'm I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: feel just I feel like a malaise in my head.

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Speaker 4: It's it hasn't fully taken over me yet. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: call myself I'm not ready to say that I'm sick yet.

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Speaker 3: But you feel you're on the precipice. I've been on

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Speaker 3: the precipice for like four days. Yeah, okay, so that

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Speaker 3: makes me feel good on some level, But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 4: Tough had a lovely, lovely anniversary weekend it was my

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Speaker 4: sixth wedding anniversary. We got to see not only did

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Speaker 4: we have that going on this weekend, but we saw

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Speaker 4: the debut of the Adams family from the Hawkin' Players Society,

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Speaker 4: which was fantastic. Ard and Anne Bryce Bryce with his

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Speaker 4: stage debut.

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Speaker 3: So he was doing well.

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Speaker 4: But he's now under the weather and coffin and all

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Speaker 4: kinds of stuff, so we're certainly hoping that he feels

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Speaker 4: better soon. But yeah, so it was that, but it's just,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's one of those things I was thinking about.

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Speaker 4: You know, we on this program. We had Friday and

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Speaker 4: then Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

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Speaker 4: I had a lovely kind of what i'd call a

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Speaker 4: staycation with my bride. But at the same time, I

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Speaker 4: feel no more recharged or any It's just drudgery, brutal, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: brutal it is. And I got to get the humidity

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Speaker 4: in my house up. I mean, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 4: like rolling at like twenty percent because it's just so

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Speaker 4: cold and dry and the heat's always on. So we

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Speaker 4: got to get a humidifier, like in when we get that,

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Speaker 4: when we had the joy of having to replace the furnace,

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Speaker 4: what three weeks ago. For yeah, right, very recently, the

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Speaker 4: humidifier that was on that furnace has not been working,

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Speaker 4: so we need to get a new one, which we

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Speaker 4: have not yet done, but now I've ordered one, but

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Speaker 4: we gotta get that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's just relentless.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I would use it. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: in all, in all seriousness, there is something too. And

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Speaker 2: this isn't a big fun way to start the program,

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Speaker 2: but there's something too. Seasonal depression, Like it's brutal. Like

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Speaker 2: Saturday night, I was like, really really after everything. Now,

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Speaker 2: we were supposed to go out of town. So we

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Speaker 2: were supposed to go out of town on Thursday when

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Speaker 2: I left here. Thursday, we were we were leaving and

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Speaker 2: that was stopped because on on Thursday my wife got sick.

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Speaker 2: So Bootsy did the the scene from stand By Me.

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Speaker 2: That was on Tuesday night. My wife got sick Thursday.

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Speaker 2: So Friday I said, like, the boys are we wanted

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Speaker 2: to get out. We're going to you know, get out

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, what do you want to do? Anything

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Speaker 2: you want to do in the city, We'll do anything

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Speaker 2: you want. So they want I go. You can each pick.

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Speaker 3: We'll go.

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Speaker 2: I'll go wherever you want to go, no limits, wherever

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Speaker 2: you want to go. And uh, the older two pick

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Speaker 2: Top Golf, and then Bootsy picked Dave and Busters. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so there there's a Dave and Busters on the west side,

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Speaker 2: not too close, not close. Uh, and then Top golfs

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Speaker 2: Mom's sick, she's ailing, let's go. So we got a

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Speaker 2: Top Golf. It was great. It was cold, but the

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Speaker 2: hour and a half. Everybody had fun. That's a win.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Dave and Busters. So we

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Speaker 2: head out out west. We go to Dave and Busters.

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Speaker 2: So I would just say two undred bucks doesn't go

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Speaker 3: I'd imagine that about an hour you're gonna get out

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Speaker 2: About an hour, yeaps what that abounts to. But Boots

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Speaker 2: he's having the time of his life. His whole thing

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Speaker 3: So not really free.

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Speaker 2: Not free. I mean I could have bought a bunch

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Speaker 2: of stuffed animals for the amount of money that he better.

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Speaker 4: Ones he just did claw machines significantly better one. But

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Speaker 4: I'm like, look, it's his world.

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Speaker 2: Who am I. Whatever he wants to do, go live.

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Speaker 2: So after that, my wife's had a pair of slippers

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Speaker 2: that were a casualty of Bootsies disaster on Tuesday. So

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Speaker 2: I said, let's go get mom sick. Let's go get

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Speaker 2: go get her some slippers. So we're out there and

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Speaker 2: I'm driving for a place to park and Beamsy goes.

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Speaker 2: My stomach hurts, and I'm going, what level, like is this?

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Speaker 2: Let's find we gotta go we get a dude number two?

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Speaker 2: Or do we And he's He's like me only home

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Speaker 2: games on that. So I said, okay, what where are

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Speaker 2: oh God. So I looked in the car and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, listen, Bud, we're thirty five forty minutes from home. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I said, here are two empty coffee cups. If you

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Speaker 2: feel the rush of saliva, let me know. And if

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Speaker 2: I can't get pulled over, coffee cup, coffee coffee cup,

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Speaker 2: it up, baby, That's the best I can hope for.

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Speaker 2: And then so then NBC goes, wait, Dad, we've got

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Speaker 2: the Dave and Busters sack from Bootsy Stuffed Animal, which

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Speaker 2: is huge. I go, clutch, even better, genius, brilliant.

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Speaker 6: So we pull over.

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Speaker 2: He goes, Dan, I think I'm gonna get pull over

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Speaker 2: at like one of these like minute clinics, not to

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to get this smell out

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Speaker 2: if you count. If you don't, once you start, I'll

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Speaker 2: pull over and we'll we do it on the side

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Speaker 2: of the road. That's fine, I'll help you. But please,

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Speaker 2: if this happens while we're driving, get it in the sack. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: so we start pretty big target.

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Speaker 3: It's a tart. It's enough to get up. You could

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Speaker 3: like stick his head in it. Literally, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: But it's also an eleven year old and you lose function.

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Speaker 2: So we take off on the turn pike and we're

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Speaker 2: So the tour in the back seat, NBC and Boots

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, thank god for Tesla Auto Pilot. Thank god.

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Speaker 2: That's the only way I was able to navigate.

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Speaker 3: I hope everybody's having a late lunch today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's he's he's doing it. And the other

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Speaker 2: twour in the back the smell and the smell Boots,

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Speaker 2: he's already been sick, NBC and I have not. It's

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Speaker 3: It's the worst.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we got it. I go, buddy, just keep

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Speaker 2: doing it. I'm rubbing his back. I'm like, you're doing great.

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Speaker 2: You're doing great. It was the greatest clutch performance in

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Speaker 2: the history of a child.

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Speaker 3: He did it.

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Speaker 2: He got sick in the sack only not a droplet

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Speaker 2: not a dat nothing, just handled it. I think it

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Speaker 2: was the greatest clutch performance by a child since like

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Speaker 2: Macaulay Culkin and Home Alone. I really do. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that any child has ever performed better Tiger Woods

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Speaker 2: get out. Navigated all that. I said, greatest. Never seen

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Speaker 2: a better performance out of a child. That was Friday.

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Speaker 2: That was Friday. Yeah, somehow NBC and I got through it.

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Speaker 3: Although he's not feeling well today, right he got home.

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Speaker 2: From school today. But I don't know. I mean, but

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Speaker 2: so far, I'm in the clear. I told my wife,

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I would think so.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we did. That was what we did.

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Speaker 2: We just convalesced for four days fun.

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Speaker 4: Were you able at least in this convalescing we were

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Speaker 4: able to uh to get some you know, some TV

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Speaker 3: Was there any.

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Speaker 2: Distraction you were able to? SNL fifty was perfect. It

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Speaker 2: was great, wasn't it not?

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Speaker 3: It was great. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Truly live like it wasn't Yeah, like I was reading

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Speaker 2: it yesterday that they did not have a dress rehearsal,

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Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. Yeah, and they just did it, so

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Speaker 2: I think. I mean, yeah, there was like a mic

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Speaker 2: issue and Pharrell missed a line once or twice, and

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Speaker 2: then Molly Shannon, which was really funny, made it better.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: We I think we still have a little bit of

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Speaker 3: ways to go. The last skit we watched was the

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Speaker 3: Alien abduction where Meryl Streep comes in at the end.

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Speaker 4: It is I mean, it's unreal. Pedro Pascal is hanging

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Speaker 4: on for dear life, Woody Harrelson is on another planet

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Speaker 4: appropriately so for the sketch and just in general and

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Speaker 4: was you could tell they wanted to laugh, so, I

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Speaker 4: mean they were out of control. That sketch was great,

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Speaker 4: the Domingo and then you get Pedro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I thought they crushed all of it, and I you know,

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Speaker 2: it was interesting. I watched it live. Yeah, the NBA

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Speaker 3: This isn't really a spoiler. I want Uncle Baby. I

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Speaker 2: Because he's as good as he is his uncle Baby.

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Speaker 4: You're going to do it right because we're at the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's build up. I think you can appreciate something

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Speaker 2: caring about the All Star Game. And I do think

437
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: it was the changing of the guard from Kobe to Lebron, yes,

438
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 2: because there is is. Over the weekend, I saw there's

439
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: a clip of Kobe like guarding Lebron full court man

440
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 2: demand in the game, and then blocked what a Kobe

441
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: and Jordan where they were like that was Kobe one

442
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: of Kobe's first Jordan's last yea and they're like Kobe,

443
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: let Mike and He's like, no, no, no, I'm not

444
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: doing that. So I do think that that when Kobe

445
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: left and Lebron is. One of the other things he's

446
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: responsible for is a little bit of the aauification of

447
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: the NBA, where we're all going to play with our

448
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: buddies and all of that. We've kind of gone away

449
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: from that a little bit now, but there was a

450
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: decade where that was it, and I just think his

451
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: that generations. It's kind of like, you know, and your

452
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: kids reach a certain age when it's like not cool

453
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: to try, Like I see that in the sports. Do

454
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: you try hard, You're like, oh, dude, oh yeah, give

455
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: big effort. Yeah, give big effort. But it's not cool

456
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: to give big effort. Like sixth gradest when I noticed it,

457
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: they're like trying to be like too cool to give effort.

458
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: It's almost like they think they're too cool to try

459
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: in the All Star Game, and it's it's killed. It

460
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: it's done, So it is not it's Ben had for

461
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: a long time. They've tried a bunch of stuff. They

462
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 2: tried the elam ending and the I mean seven seventy six,

463
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: and then they do this ridiculous thing this weekend, like

464
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: and I don't.

465
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 3: Think you can fix it what they do this weekend.

466
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 2: They picked four teams. It was a Chuck had a team,

467
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: Shack had a team, and they played like a tournament

468
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: to forty. Yeah, that's real. I mean it was a disaster.

469
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: So I didn't obviously I did not watch it.

470
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: I think that's a big problem, is like they it

471
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: became not cool to try in the All Star Game.

472
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Speaker 4: But that is also you know, you mentioned Lebron and

473
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Speaker 4: you mentioned Kobe, and you mentioned Jordan. What do Kobe

474
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: and Jordan have in common? They are insane competitors killers,

475
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 4: And it is I think true that without a shadow

476
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: of a doubt, had Lebron been wired like Jordan or Kobe,

477
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 4: he would be the greatest basketball player of all time.

478
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 4: I think the reason he's probably not still in the

479
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 4: starting five, but the reason he's probably not is because

480
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 4: he didn't He didn't have that and we see that

481
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 4: at very stages throughout his career and know that that

482
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 4: to be one hundred percent true. Unbelievable player. Great, but

483
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: they're on a different level of the need to win.

484
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: The hatred of losing drives them to not accept losing.

485
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: Winning is expected, losing is unacceptable. And they even carried

486
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: that the All Star Game used to be okay. First

487
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 4: of all, the dunk contests used to be awesome. The

488
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 4: three point shootout used to be awesome. And the three

489
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 4: point shootout was the one thing that carried over. I

490
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: didn't even see who won this.

491
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Speaker 3: Year, do you know it was? I think it was, Uh,

492
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: Tyler hero was another hero one. Yes, you are right, yep, yeah,

493
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: I think Tyler Herroll. He's the fifth heat player to

494
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 3: win that.

495
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: And but they even changed that. It used to be

496
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: five shots at each one one money money. Now they

497
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 2: have like now they put the moneyballs all over the play.

498
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: I mean they have to make one rack of all

499
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 4: money balls, right, I don't know, I don't even And

500
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: then the game itself, it was a crescendo. Jmix was

501
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: talking about this. It kind of built like the dunk contest,

502
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 4: ooh uh, three point contests? Who and you'd had real

503
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 4: people doing it. Larry Bird would win the three point contest,

504
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan would win the dunk contest. And none of

505
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: these guys participate in the dunk contest.

506
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: And that's a Lebron because Kobe did it. Kobe didn't

507
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: dunk contest. Lebron didn't, yep, and I'm too cool to

508
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: do the dunk contest. And everyone's like, oh, Lebron's not

509
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: doing it? Why should I have to?

510
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want it? If I was able to

511
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: do that, that's all I would. I mean, is a kid,

512
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: it's a.

513
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: Fear of not winning it. For him, he probably looked

514
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: at it and said, the upside of me doing this

515
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: everyone thinks I'm gonna win it. The upside of me

516
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: doing it isn't worth the downside if I lose.

517
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: The goat did it?

518
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: I understand, but I used to have Jordan, I can

519
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: do I know. And there was a rite of passage

520
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: to young guys like when Kobe got in, he did it,

521
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, like they went and won it

522
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: when they came into the league. Yeah, like your first

523
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: All Star game, you do the dunk cont.

524
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: Like Mac McClung, isn't he like a d league guy?

525
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: He is a GE league guy and he's won it

526
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: three years in a row, and he's an incredible dunker.

527
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: But he's also a professional dunker. Yes, is what he is.

528
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's stunning what he did. He jumped over

529
00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: a car and.

530
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 6: They have to be like if I saw Mac McClung's

531
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 6: dunks in game, I'd be like, dude, why is our

532
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 6: car on the court?

533
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: G Man, the Great g Man. I think the other

534
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: part of it is do you think you need to

535
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: be an NBA player?

536
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: Of course, but he's the only thing that saves it

537
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 2: because his dunking is so extraordinary that they let him

538
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: do it. He's won three in a row. The other

539
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: thing is is like those dunk contests that you were

540
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: talking about, ones that we're talking about.

541
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: You did not have.

542
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: An avenue to see that type of dunking any other way.

543
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: There was no YouTube, There weren't There wasn't and one

544
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: mixtape guys. There weren't guys who are just all they

545
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: do is dunk, Like the only way you could see

546
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: a dunk is like in the flow of a game,

547
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: and there weren't that many because if you went to

548
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: the rim hard to dunk, you'd land up on your ass,

549
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: So like you didn't see it much. So like when

550
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: you saw Jordan doo the kiss the sky dunk, or

551
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: the free throw line dunk, you never saw that in

552
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: a game. Now that happens pretty regularly and we have

553
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: access to all of the dunking that we see everywhere else,

554
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: so it's hard to do something new.

555
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: The other thing, too, is that you had to make

556
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: your dunks. Of course you had to make them. You

557
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: didn't get break like five dunks and then to get

558
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: you know, have one going and be like, oh, yeah,

559
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: there's my dunk.

560
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: Watch that one. Don't ignore the first five.

561
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh you had to do it. The great Rex Chapman

562
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: did it.

563
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 4: And then it used to build to the game and

564
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: the game was, you know again kind of like all

565
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 4: these things where you got to actually see the best

566
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: players in the NBA thus in the world in teams

567
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: that you didn't often see.

568
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: And then by the fourth quarter it was real.

569
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: Competitive basketball with the best players in the world, and

570
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 4: it was awesome.

571
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: It was awesome. The four teams, it was also for

572
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: in our youth, it was one team predominantly Lakers, one

573
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: team predominantly Celtics, and it was true East versus West,

574
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: like Carlon only ever played for the West. Yeah, it

575
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: was rare, like Chuck Barkley went East West right, rare

576
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: often to have somebody switched conferences like you. You, if

577
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: you were a great player, you played on your team.

578
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: Period, you didn't.

579
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: You weren't bouncing and playing on a but you played

580
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: on your team.

581
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: That's it.

582
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: And now they've bounced for fifteen years and so like

583
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: there isn't the territorial pride of East versus West the

584
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: way that there was.

585
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 4: I used to love the NBA All Star weekend. I

586
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: didn't even spend one second on it. Were your kids

587
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: into it?

588
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: They were a little they were a little NBC watched

589
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: SNL with me, the two littles watched some of the

590
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: All Star Game. They were kind of into it.

591
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: I mean, you even had people trying to when Min

592
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: Yama and the Spurs team trying to like scam the

593
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 4: skills challenge.

594
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, I don't know. I think the skills

595
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: things stupid.

596
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: Anyway, It's awful.

597
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the one thing I will.

598
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: Say is a lot of people say they dominate it

599
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 3: though right then they win.

600
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think a lot of people comparing

601
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: it to like what the NHL did with the Four Nations.

602
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: The four Nations is a cheat code. I mean, that's patriotism.

603
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: So when that happens, you're gonna get all the excitement

604
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: that you want.

605
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: I mean, how about that.

606
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: It's an incredible gamble for NHL owners and it speaks

607
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: to how desperate they are for any sort of attention

608
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: that they it's working. I'm not. It's fun and the

609
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: final is on Thursday. It's gonna be awesome. This is

610
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 2: a made up tournament. This isn't a World Cup. It's

611
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: not an Olympics. It's US Cannon on Thursday night. It's

612
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: gonna be a Donnybrook. Literally. But think of the risk

613
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: that ownership for NHL teams are willing to take to

614
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: play highly competitive more so even in the regular season

615
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: games in the middle of their season. It's like the Olympics.

616
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Like the Columbus Blue Jackets two hours down the road.

617
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: They are in the kind of fighting for the eighth

618
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: spot in the East. Their best player, Zak Warinsky, is

619
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: the number one defensive pairing on the United States team.

620
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: If Zach Warensky goes down with an injury, they're cooked. Yeah,

621
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: the jacket season's over, it's done, And like they're risking

622
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: that because more people are watching this than anything else.

623
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be like the Olympics. I

624
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: think they're gonna get a big audience on Thursday at

625
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: a big audience for USA Canada last time. But I

626
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to transition to an audience for

627
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: NHL hockey right now because it's a one like an Olympic.

628
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: It's a one off.

629
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: It's a one off, and those one.

630
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: Off games like a Game seven. And I'm not a

631
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: hockey fan at all.

632
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the extent of my hockey fandom was

633
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: making a lot of nice side living in college in

634
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: various NHL games and those in high school in NHL

635
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: ninety four, which was pretty much the greatest game ever.

636
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: Little Wayne's head bleed, oh man.

637
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: But when a Game seven, like, I'll even flip on

638
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: if there's a Stanley Cup, Oh yeah, game seven, I'll

639
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: watch that, or the gold medal game in the Olympics,

640
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: I'll watch that and this third.

641
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: It'll be great it's it'll be great.

642
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 6: It has a similar feel like it feels like they're

643
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 6: playing playoff games in the middle of the season.

644
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: It's crazy that like if you own one of the

645
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: NHL teams and you're like, what are we doing?

646
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

647
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 6: Right, I mean like this is crazy. Like the Bruins'

648
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 6: best defenseman is in the hospital with an infection that

649
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 6: he got because.

650
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: They both banged up.

651
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Matthews didn't Boston Matthews and the Maple Leafs didn't play

652
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: the last game, I.

653
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: Mean banged up from their brawls. Did they start the game?

654
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: They both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They even called some dude from the Canadian team that

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Speaker 4: wasn't even supposed to be He's like, get in here

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Speaker 4: so we can fight.

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Speaker 2: We can fight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I you cannot compare that. That isn't an All

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Speaker 2: Star game anymore. You basically created it made for TV

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Speaker 2: event in the middle of your All Star break. So

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Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. That's a little bit.

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Speaker 3: So this is their answer to All Star weekend.

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Speaker 2: They're not doing it all. This is the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: It's their answer to the All Star the NHLs. They're

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Speaker 2: not doing an All Star game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not bad That's funny because it really risky. Though.

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Speaker 4: Two years ago, the NHL All Star Game was in

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Speaker 4: South Florida and I was there. Oh yeah, and they

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Speaker 4: were in art using the hotel where he happened to

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Speaker 4: be in randomly was like the NHL hotel, and they

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Speaker 4: do all this cool skill stuff, you know whatnot.

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Speaker 3: But every two years the President of the United States

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Speaker 3: is saying that he's going to the final.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's he was at the Daytona five hundred Yes

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. That was I mean, they're saying it.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 3: That was cinema. They're saying.

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Speaker 2: People are saying it all right. A couple other news

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Speaker 2: of the day, The Browns announced a slew of coaching

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Speaker 2: additions and changes. We've added Christian Jones at tight ends,

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Speaker 2: Sanders Davis assistant offensive line, Kyle Hoak assistant special teams,

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Speaker 2: Adam Morris assistant defensive line, Ben Wilkerson to the coaching staff,

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Speaker 2: Bill Musgrave, which we've talked about, Stephen Bravo Brown and

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Speaker 2: Nick Charlton. So those are some of the new roles

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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five. The franchise take window has opened.

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00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: We'll close on March fourth. The notable franchise take figures.

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00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: Quarterback is forty one. The one to pay attention to

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00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: is his wide receiver, which is right around twenty six,

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Speaker 2: because that is the T Higgins number. You saw his

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Speaker 2: mom this morning.

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Speaker 3: Didn't like it.

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Speaker 2: Not a fan of T Higgins getting getting tagged down there.

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Speaker 2: So that's where they still.

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Speaker 4: The thing about it is that twenty we'll call it

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Speaker 4: twenty six guaranteed. People are talking about him getting thirty.

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Speaker 4: So it's a there's a four million dollar gap there.

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Speaker 2: It's also one year versus sure. Sure yeah, So all

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Speaker 2: right there you go. Coming up next, we will go

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Speaker 2: business platform. We'll head around the sports world here. The

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Speaker 2: Bengals are considered likely to franchise Tag wide receiver t

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Speaker 2: Higgins if they are unable to reach a long term

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Speaker 2: contract by March fourth, per Tom Pelasaro. If the Bengals

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Speaker 2: tag him, they'll have until July fifteenth through each a

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Speaker 2: contract in agreement before the tag becomes permanent. Team also

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Speaker 2: plans to retain Trey Hendrickson and Jamar Chase. All three

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Speaker 2: guys are in search of long term deals. So this

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Speaker 2: to me, this is when I saw this story originally.

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Speaker 2: I think it was in ESPN. I read it. I

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Speaker 2: think this was the Bengals publicly answering Burrow's challenges. I

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Speaker 2: think they listened to Burrow for like a month on

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Speaker 2: every place that they had that he would stand in

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Speaker 2: front of a live microphone saying you know you can

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Speaker 2: do this, do it, do it, And this to me

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Speaker 2: was them saying, well, we're going to try, right.

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Speaker 3: We can't help it if he doesn't want to play

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Speaker 3: on the franchise tag, right, what are we supposed to do?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, and I think look, they should try

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Speaker 4: to keep it together. I mean, if you had two

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Speaker 4: of the three, who would you keep? The three are

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Speaker 4: who Chase, Hendrickson and Higgins? Yep, I would probably let

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Speaker 4: t go because I think my quarterback is so good

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Speaker 4: that I can draft somebody else into that spot and

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Speaker 4: be good. Hendrickson is a very very very good pass rusher.

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Speaker 3: How old is he he is? That's what see.

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Speaker 2: Like my hunch is if he's already crossed the thirty threshold,

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Speaker 2: I would probably do Tea.

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Speaker 4: So let's see age wise, So he started in seventeen

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Speaker 4: he is, he'll turn thirty one next season.

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Speaker 3: And what's tea? If he's like twenty six, he's like,

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Speaker 3: definitely tea.

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Speaker 2: It's five, he's four, he's five six tea.

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00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 3: Yes, he's full almost five years younger, four years younger,

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Speaker 3: he's a full four years center.

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00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would probably do Tea and I like scoring.

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00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: I think scoring is what the league is all about.

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Speaker 2: I take Tea and I keep Jamar, and I would

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00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: try and make it work. They were had one of

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00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: the worst defenses in the NFL. I draft an edge,

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Speaker 2: draft an edge, Yeah, and just keep drafting edges, you know,

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Speaker 2: or whatever you The.

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Speaker 4: Truth is, though, if there was a world in which

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Speaker 4: I could keep Trey, let T go and then pay

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Speaker 4: and then draft McMillan.

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Speaker 3: M Arizona though maybe if I had to maybe move

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Speaker 3: up a little bit, Yeah, I'd be pretty pumped about

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Speaker 3: that if I was them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a real one beyond I mean where they're

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Speaker 2: picking it, would he That's probably more like the Ameica

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Speaker 2: Buca world. It's probably and he's really nice, clean, nice.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden world. Yeah, what about the guy from is

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Speaker 3: a Missouri. Yeah, people are liking him.

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Speaker 2: We use a five star kid. I mean, the elite

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Speaker 2: trades certainly are there. I don't know build wise.

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Speaker 3: If he would be people like him as a is

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Speaker 3: a big yeah, but is he?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how Talley is Like That's one thing

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Speaker 2: T gave him is Jamar gives him everything and then

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Speaker 2: T gives him kind of like that big target on

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Speaker 2: the outside. That's why McMillan tod be the A plus

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Speaker 2: because he's that a. Mecca's not that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure Luther Burden is six two yeah, okay, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Lance Zerlin has him as the fifth

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Speaker 4: best player in the draft. I think Bordon compares him

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Speaker 4: to Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a huge recruit when he signed up missoo.

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Speaker 2: So I hardly believe time's flashed so much.

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Speaker 3: That he's five eleven two five. This is on his

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Speaker 3: NFL one But I don't know if that's accurate or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always the tricky spot is like does it fit?

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00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't they to me? Are they are

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Speaker 2: the actual They are the definition of the team. When

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00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: the NFL allowed for you to bring on private equity, Yep,

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Speaker 2: they're the team for that. I don't know if the

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Speaker 2: Brown family would do it, but they should sell twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of it, ten percent of it whatever. That's what

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Speaker 2: the Raiders did. That's how Mark Davis got all the cash.

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Speaker 2: They they brought in a group of guys and not

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, another group of guys that gave him an

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Speaker 2: influx of cash. And then that allowed for them to

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Speaker 2: do things. I think, do the same thing here. If

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Speaker 2: you're the Brown family, you want to keep this together

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00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: because you're gonna have to restructure those contracts. If you're

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00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: gonna try and get this done, you're gonna have to

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00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: restructure contracts and give out huge signing bonuses. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: that's to.

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Speaker 3: Me what you gotta have a lue on that side

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Speaker 3: of things. I'm with you. I'm with you. That's a

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Speaker 3: perfect They're they're the model. They're the model.

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Speaker 2: Them and the Chargers would be another one. Joe Buck's

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Speaker 2: gonna return to Major League Baseball's national booth of the

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Speaker 2: first time in four years, he said, to call a

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Speaker 2: opening day game between the Yankees and the Brewers on

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Speaker 2: March twenty seventh on esp I'd forgotten it's been four

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Speaker 2: years since he's done a baseball game nationally. He's done

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Speaker 2: Cardinals games.

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Speaker 3: Good for Joe. Yeah, I enjoyed Joe Buck.

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Speaker 2: I do too. The home of the Cleveland cavaliy, I

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Speaker 2: mean this is I'm sorry, g man, I'm not like

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Speaker 2: a corporate renaming.

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Speaker 3: Why is it no longer a field house? Why?

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Speaker 2: I don't either either? What rocket arena?

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Speaker 3: Why did it go from a field house to you?

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Speaker 2: I think it will always be the queue or did

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Speaker 2: you call it rocket Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: I think I've always called it the queue. Me too,

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Speaker 3: but then there are people the guns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's predates me. But yeah, yeah, always the queue

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Speaker 2: for me. I think if you are going to pay

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Speaker 2: for the naming of a stadium, you better do it first.

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Speaker 3: But it's still the same people.

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Speaker 2: I understand, all the same business. But even if you

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Speaker 2: want it to like resonate, like Staple Center is not

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Speaker 2: Staple Center anymore, but it'll always be Staples Hinesfield, right,

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Speaker 2: It's never gonna behind field signs field. So like when

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Speaker 2: a stadium decides we're going to name the stadium, be

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Speaker 2: the first company, yeah, to name it, and then you

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Speaker 2: get Then I think you got a chance because it

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Speaker 2: becomes part of it. But otherwise really tough.

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Speaker 3: I always think it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: And we did this because we had you know, Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Brown Stadium, First Energy Stadium, and now it's Huntington Bank Field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so how did you decide if it's a stadium

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Speaker 3: or field.

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Speaker 4: I know in the case of Huntington, it's because Huntington

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Speaker 4: Bank Stadium is the University of Minnesota. Yeah, so they

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Speaker 4: already had one. So that's why we switched to a

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Speaker 4: field In the case of the other, it went from

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Speaker 4: Quicken Loans Arena yep, which was the queue, to the

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Speaker 4: Rocket Mortgage field House yep. And now it's Rocket Arena.

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00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: So why did they go Why did they ever go

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Speaker 4: to the field House in the first place? Was there

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Speaker 4: a Rocket Mortgage Arena somewhere that.

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Speaker 2: We didn't I mean, it's Dan's company. Maybe they just

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Speaker 2: like the sound of Rocket Mortgage field House more than

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Speaker 2: Rockage Rocket Mortgage Arena. You could also just have kept

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Speaker 2: it Rocket More or Rocket field House.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. It's now Rocket Arena. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: So it started opening in ninety four until August two

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Speaker 4: thousand and five, so I didn't know it as the

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Speaker 4: Gun I was here was the Gun Arena. Then Gilbert

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Speaker 4: bought it in two thousand and five, it was Quicken

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Speaker 4: Loans Arena. The queue became Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse in April

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen when Quicken Loans rebranded to Rocket Mortgage. Is

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Speaker 4: part of the facility's renovation and expansion, and it was

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Speaker 4: renamed Rocket Arena twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: On Rocket Mortgage rebranded to just Rocket.

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Speaker 4: Hm, I still don't understand why I didn't go to

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Speaker 4: Rocket Mortgage arena and then I could just be Rocket.

872
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: Why did it go to a field House?

873
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: Field House would be That's the one I'm curious about

874
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: to why not just Rocket Mortgage arena. Yeah, they'll have

875
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: a new tenant. We're getting a WNBA franchise here, a

876
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: revival of the Cleveland Rockers. That'll be exciting. That league

877
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: is on the come. One thing I think that that

878
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: league's got to be careful about is expanding too big,

879
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: too quick, Yeah, because otherwise you can really water down

880
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: the talent. There's a lot of talent to choose from.

881
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: But I mean they've got a few super teams right

882
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: now and already starting to see those be kind of redistributed.

883
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: That that type of thing could could be a problem

884
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: here as well. Did you see Kaitlyn Clark's agent over

885
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: the weekend. There's no way that she could be paid

886
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: her actual value, And I think he's right.

887
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: It feels how would you ever? It feels right?

888
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: How would you ever be able to compensate her with

889
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 2: their salary structure appropriate for what she delivers from a rating?

890
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: Standpoint, Yeah, what is she? So she leads the league

891
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: in threes made, and she leads the league in assists

892
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: per game.

893
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: Kaitlin, Kaitlin, Yeah, and also television audience time ten.

894
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: So is their season? Is their season not started yet?

895
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's not till after the final four. So

896
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: that was final, the women's Final four, and then like

897
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: she went straight into it. She took him all the

898
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: way to the national Championship game of Iowa. Then they

899
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: do the draft like two days after the women's final,

900
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: and then they do training camp and they run through

901
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: the summer.

902
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: So she led the league in three pointers made and

903
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: an assistant game and my guess is this and fantasy

904
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: points game she.

905
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: Was number three.

906
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: She's a stud.

907
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess this. She'll be in the tops and

908
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: scoring this year.

909
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. And from a ratings standpoint, it wasn't close like

910
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: when she was involved in when she was not from ESPN,

911
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: Shaequie O'Neil is staying with TNT Sports on a new

912
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: contract more than fifteen million per year. The news means

913
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: at the cast of Inside the NBA is teaing together,

914
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 2: even as TNT has set to license out the show

915
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: to ESPN. Starting next season. So they're all going is

916
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: Chuck locked in on that? Is he locked in?

917
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 6: Claims he is? Yeah, he said he's gonna honor that

918
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 6: ten year contract that he signed.

919
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: So okay, so they're gonna run. So ESPN basically bought

920
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: inside the NBA.

921
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's my understanding that Turner is still going

922
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 6: to produce it.

923
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: Right, So.

924
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: So how about this go ahead, I'm gonna do some

925
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: quick math right here, right ahead. Shack who we would

926
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: all consider to be one of the most dominant right yeah,

927
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 3: for sure, best players of all time.

928
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: Do you know what his average per year salary was

929
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: for his nineteen years in the NBA? I think it

930
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: was quite robust average career earnings divided by nineteen seasons.

931
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere he played for the minimum I would.

932
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, like eight fifteen a year, fifteen right

933
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: at it, and he's making fifteen now.

934
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

935
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

936
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: He was the first before they started making caps on

937
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: what you could the max salary. Remember, there never used

938
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: to be a max yep. Him and Juwan Howard and

939
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: Alonzo Morning like all got the It was one hundred

940
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: and Kevin Garnett like one hundred and five years one

941
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six. Like the late nineties early two thousands.

942
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 3: His best deal was with the Lakers in ninety nine.

943
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: He went, he went seventeen, nineteen, twenty one, twenty three,

944
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty seven, and then was straight twenties

945
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: with Heat Heat Sons, Sons Calves. For his last year

946
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 3: with the Celtics, where is it like a million? Fifteen?

947
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: He's making fifteen million a year though, Yeah, that's right, okay,

948
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: pretty good. Let's just say he's at fifteen.

949
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 6: Chuck's at twenty one as well, Chuck Chucks should be

950
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 6: double double.

951
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: Kenny's at what do you think five?

952
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: He got to be around Shack. He can't be too

953
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: much less.

954
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: All right, so we'll call him fifteen, and then Ernie's

955
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: got to be ten.

956
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: I would think five to ten.

957
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: So they're spending sixty one million dollars a year on

958
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: that desk.

959
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably.

960
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: I love the show. You love the show.

961
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: What are watching?

962
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: What could the ratings possibly be?

963
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: They're not that, They're definitely not that. No, No, Shadur

964
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: Sanders said he only plays with us on Madden. Do

965
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: we believe him? We will get to that coming up next.

966
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,200
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Speaker 2: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Viral clip

976
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: this morning, Colorado quarterback shot Or Sanders saying on a

977
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: that's this is the thing his dad does. It's his

978
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: dad's Yeah, it's Coach Prime's little program that they do

979
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: behind the scenes that show that he only plays with

980
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: the Browns on Madden. Do you believe him.

981
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: And he can play with anybody? I mean, I don't

982
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: think he's I don't think it's a part of some

983
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: elaborate conspiracy.

984
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't either.

985
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: I also think I don't know. I'm sure he was

986
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: like me and when I got the game for and

987
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: so I got the bundle, yep, so you got the

988
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: college game in Madden at the same time, if you

989
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: have an ability to play the college game. I don't,

990
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: and you're on the college game. And oh, by the way,

991
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: playing with them in the college game is the most

992
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: fun you can have on the game because he's really

993
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: good and Travis Hunter is fastest.

994
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: Their line is not very good.

995
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: It's fine. It's fine in the game. It's fine. It's

996
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: pure joy, pure joy. The boys always play with the

997
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: buck Eyes, and then I'll play I'll play against him

998
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: with Colorado. They're the most fun team you can play

999
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: with because of him and Travis Hunter. Forture.

1000
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 7: I like that.

1001
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: So like the idea that you could like play the

1002
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: game that game with your or play Madden, which has

1003
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: you know how much Madden. I played three plays. I

1004
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: played three plays of Madden.

1005
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: I don't think I even own it this year.

1006
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: You probably did when you got the college game.

1007
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't think I bought the bundle.

1008
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't.

1009
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1010
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: So I played three plays I played with us. I ran.

1011
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, just be patient, let's try and

1012
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: just establish the run. Ran twice, third and short linebacker

1013
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: for the Ravens, jumps sixty six feet in the air

1014
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: and intercepts the ball over the middle and I said

1015
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm done. I threw the control on my mouth. I'm done.

1016
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: Good road, give me the college game again. I'll go

1017
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: play that. The gameplay is not close. Yeah, the college

1018
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: game play.

1019
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: You played the.

1020
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: College game this year?

1021
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 5: Right?

1022
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Didn't you play a season with Arizona?

1023
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: I did? I want?

1024
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: How much fun was it?

1025
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: I took Jmak to the woodshed at the Greenbrier. How

1026
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: much fun?

1027
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: Was that?

1028
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: Very fun? I agree? I don'treak gameplay, Jordan. Did you

1029
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: have fun? No, you didn't have any? I didn't think so.

1030
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: Who was he? He was LSU and you.

1031
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: Were Arizona and I was.

1032
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: Arizona.

1033
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: Had you played with Arizona previously?

1034
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: Probably I'd been playing my season with him.

1035
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the other thing when you play, like if

1036
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: you got another playbook, so you know where the money

1037
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: plays are.

1038
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 3: To be honest, we're talking about LSU and Arizona.

1039
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they he should win? What's his what's his problem?

1040
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: What's your story? Why didn't he? Doctor? J why didn't

1041
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: you win? What happened? Were you not ready for? I

1042
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: know how you know in an operating offense, but like,

1043
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: come on, dude, be my.

1044
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 5: Quarterback went on the same smire. In my defense, we

1045
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: couldn't figure it out. Got on offense, yeah picks.

1046
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: Actually your boy's dangerous in those yeah yeah. So I

1047
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: used to m I hate it. I was quite formidable.

1048
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 3: Now that's too much.

1049
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 4: You gotta like, you know, know all the glitches, and

1050
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: you got to know all the unblockable blitzes and the

1051
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: before they patch it.

1052
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: And it's nonsense playing his games competitively is.

1053
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: It's too much like the Yeah, the pre snap stuff

1054
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: that you can do with them, move them here, do

1055
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: this well that. I have no problems people all that

1056
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: stuff that you do automatically.

1057
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: I don't understand any of people who do it who

1058
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: are in the lab or the lab.

1059
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did since I was stuck at home and

1060
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't intending to be I uh. I got out

1061
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: the old the PGA game.

1062
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: It's pretty great with Tiger in it.

1063
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: The other one's the e A one, the old Tiger game,

1064
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: of course I'm not saying, but like the one he's

1065
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: not in it. It's like he's he went with like

1066
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: two K. But the e A one that is the

1067
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: mass so you can play the masters, you get to

1068
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: play like all the majors, all of that I'd much

1069
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: rather do that then, But what do I don't care

1070
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: about playing with tiger or or whatever, like, I want

1071
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: to play the courses. So they got all the course

1072
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: on there, and it was like, all right.

1073
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: Let's let's get it's a great game.

1074
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: Let's play Augusta in the in the weather and like

1075
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: live a little bit. That's what we did.

1076
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: Man me and beat me and beat bocks. Back in

1077
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: the day used to have battles tiger woods like three oh, four,

1078
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: oh five and six, the one where you can move

1079
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: the ball up or back in your stance a little

1080
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: bit higher or lower. Oh man, was I tough. We'd

1081
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: have to play the made up courses they had that.

1082
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: They had the Jungle one.

1083
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: The Jungle one was almost impossible get the ball to stop.

1084
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 3: That's what we needed, though.

1085
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: You need it impossible to be able to do it.

1086
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: Like some fantasy courses on it. There's one in Maine,

1087
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 2: one in Florida.

1088
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: The fantasy courses are the best.

1089
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: They had that one.

1090
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: They had one that was in the Scottish Highlands. I

1091
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: remember that awesome. Yeah, love that course. I think I

1092
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Speaker 4: want to say it was the predator. Was the jungle Preditor.

1093
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it was.

1094
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were the fans.

1095
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 4: Course were great because we at the point where we

1096
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: would play those games and it was I mean there

1097
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 4: was a while when I was right out of school,

1098
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: right out of cop out early two thousands where I

1099
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: was I would be on the leader boards and the

1100
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: like the international tournaments.

1101
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: I was formidable.

1102
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: We'd played, it'd be like any normal course would be

1103
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 4: nothing but birdies and eagles. Yeah, and what separated it

1104
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: was a few how many you dunked, like from the fairway.

1105
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: But then when you have the fancy courses and it

1106
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: could be you had to be on it.

1107
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: They find in the new one. They they do when

1108
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: you play like your career or whatever. And we set

1109
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: this up like a couple of years ago, the boys

1110
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: that I did. They will give you weather that makes

1111
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: it tough. Yep, Like you'll get a severe wind that

1112
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: makes puttings. Yeah yeah, yeah, putting is definitely harder, especially

1113
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: if you take all the grids and all that off

1114
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: and you're just looking.

1115
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Speaker 3: At the slowes would be impossible.

1116
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. But the the wind I noticed, it's

1117
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: like sometimes there's nothing you can do the win, all right,

1118
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah's mock Draft two point oh has dropped. We

1119
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Speaker 2: Oh you know what else I did? NBC had never

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Speaker 2: he and I were the only ones not sick, So

1134
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: he had never seen the Christopher Nolan Batman Trilogi. So

1135
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: I've always been telling like, dude, these are great regardless

1136
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: of like the the whether you're into the comic or not, Like,

1137
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: these are just great movies. So we watched. I had forgotten.

1138
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: I guess I hadn't forgotten. It wasn't a big deal

1139
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: to me because there were years in between Batman Begins

1140
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: and The Dark Knight. Yep, it's quite jarring to go

1141
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: from Katie Holmes as the female lead to Maggie Gillenhall

1142
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 2: as the female lead the next day.

1143
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like wait, Like he's.

1144
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: Like, did what are they do? And I'm like, oh, yeah,

1145
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: they recast.

1146
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: He's like why, Yeah, it takes it out of it.

1147
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. It bugged him for forty

1148
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: minutes of The Dark Knight.

1149
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

1150
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so then I had to figure it out why.

1151
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: And Katie Holmes is a good Toledo girl, Joey from

1152
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: Dawson's Creek, God bless she opted out. Can you imagine

1153
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: the representation that opted out of The Dark Knight.

1154
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: That's wild.

1155
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: She wanted to do another movie, huh. I think she

1156
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: could have been recruised then, And maybe I.

1157
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 3: Was gonna say on it. That's a strange period.

1158
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: It's pretty strange to like bail on Chrisopher in the

1159
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: Dark Knight and like, yeah, that's it, and she has

1160
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's she's a major central part of the

1161
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: Dark Knight.

1162
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: That's a bunch of gigs lined up guaranteed.

1163
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: Right, and her role in the second one is critical

1164
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: big to what all happens and to like bail on that,

1165
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: to go do whatever.

1166
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1167
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they hold up great.

1168
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 3: Have you ever watched Lord of the Rings with the boys?

1169
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: They're right into it. What they see the three hour

1170
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: run times, They're like, dude, what are we doing? I

1171
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: can't do it?

1172
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: They won the Academy Awards.

1173
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm aware, but I think I see three hours and

1174
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: they're like, they have no point of reference on the material.

1175
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: Which I didn't either. I didn't read the books. I

1176
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: didn't have any of that.

1177
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 3: My dad, I grew up in that Tolkien household well versed.

1178
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, I didn't have any. But I still

1179
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: they were cinematic events, I guess. So we you know,

1180
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: watched them very closely, catch all of them?

1181
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: He did, he did.

1182
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: Uh, of course we have not seen that. We have

1183
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: not seen the Harry Potters.

1184
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: Oh, they love the Potters.

1185
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, aren't those long too?

1186
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: Though?

1187
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 7: But so what now?

1188
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they have I don't. They don't. They

1189
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: don't want to do it. It's hard to get the

1190
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: ring Ones.

1191
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: Though all all three of the movies have natural midway points,

1192
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: so you could and all three of them watch them

1193
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 4: as you can watch them a six hour and a

1194
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: half movies.

1195
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 3: Basically, do they really? Yeah?

1196
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: I haven't seen them in so long the last few times.

1197
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: The last time I watched him, I fast forward through

1198
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: all the proto stuff like still Walking.

1199
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Speaker 3: The Fellowship, Let's go. Yeah, definitely, Okay, still Walk, Come on,

1200
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: I know they have Let's go. They have got to

1201
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: watch I mean, you have got to watch the bat

1202
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: Why am I blanking on the name? Eisngard?

1203
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 5: No?

1204
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: Not Eisngard.

1205
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: Well, Helm's Deep, Helm's Deep, You've got to watch.

1206
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 4: They've got to watch the Two Towers. You got to

1207
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 4: see Helms Deep, Like, you've got to see that. That

1208
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 4: is a masterpiece, it is, I think, And I think

1209
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 4: that's probably the best.

1210
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: That one's probably the best of the three total movies

1211
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 2: in the way that it ends the last forty.

1212
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: Minutes or one has a lot of exposition, but I

1213
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 4: love that. So one you have from the point where

1214
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: they go the whole kind of setup to where they

1215
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: actually get to l Rond and the elves, and then

1216
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: you have like what they do from that point on

1217
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 4: in the first one, so that's kind of like two movies.

1218
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 4: Then you've got the second one, you've got Helm's Deep,

1219
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 4: but then you have the battle it's Helm's Deep, so

1220
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 4: you have there's a halfway point in between.

1221
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: The Rohan and all those people.

1222
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 4: And then the third one you has like a kind

1223
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: of a natural halfway point between Lord Denethor and all

1224
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: that stuff and the craziness where he's sitting in the

1225
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: eating those tomatoes.

1226
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: And to tell me where the halfway points are?

1227
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 7: I do you do?

1228
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 4: So they used to ironically, because technology is so old,

1229
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 4: they used to come. When they were first put out

1230
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 4: on DVD, they were broken up into two discs.

1231
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 3: That's right.

1232
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: There was kind of like, yeah, in fact, I have

1233
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: them on DVD, so I probably maybe we could do

1234
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: it that way, throw that in the xbox and do

1235
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: it that way, and then they would be then I

1236
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: would know where the halfway point is. They do need

1237
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: to see those those are great, let's see.

1238
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: All right, halfway scene. Okay, yeah, so they got they

1239
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 4: got this all listed out for you. All right, get

1240
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: the extended issue and watch out for the black screens

1241
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 4: exactly in the middle of each movie. Fellowship of the

1242
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: Ring is cut into it an hour forty five minutes.

1243
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: The extendition when Pippin says, at the end of the

1244
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 4: Council of l round, where are we going? That's perfect?

1245
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: Twin Towers is cut around the same time. Samp an

1246
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 4: hour forty six minutes. Return of the King is split

1247
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 4: it two hours and seven minutes.

1248
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: Boom, So there you go.

1249
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 2: There is okay. Yeah, maybe we get that a shot.

1250
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, those are great epic Yeah, epic films,

1251
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: your boy, they're not quite ready for a foray into.

1252
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: The Seven Kingdoms.

1253
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones yet not quite ready. Well, I remember

1254
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: when you and I used to review that. You said

1255
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: you either needed to be like twenty five or like

1256
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: completely emotionally balanced, like lots of education, Like you got

1257
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: to be pretty stable to handle Oh yeah, Thrones. I

1258
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: think you've got to be twenty five to see Game

1259
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: of Thrones.

1260
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: Hey, you could be in college.

1261
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: You better be locked in.

1262
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be it's it's just gonna be hard

1263
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 4: to deal with what that little crud did to Roz.

1264
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I still am upset about it.

1265
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Do you know that that little crud is in the

1266
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: Batman begins, Jeoffrey.

1267
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he like stopped acting after being Jeoffrey.

1268
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think it everyone portrait him in it. Yeah,

1269
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: it's hard. Yeah, he was so good, he was so haterable.

1270
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: Who was he in Batman?

1271
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: He's a little kid that uh in the In the

1272
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: first one Man, Katie Holmes actually saves him when Scarecrow

1273
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: is running amuck. We got a Daniel Jeremiah mock two

1274
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: point zero and.

1275
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: We got the perfect lineup too. Have you done it?

1276
00:58:59,280 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: Have you built it?

1277
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 5: No?

1278
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: I haven't done that yet. We'll do that after this,

1279
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: after a break. We got this first, and then we'll

1280
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: do that.

1281
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, I.

1282
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 2: Guess we could do both of these and then stack

1283
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: at two twenty six.

1284
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 7: Is that?

1285
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: What do you think? Two twenty five? What do you think?

1286
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: G man?

1287
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do this first mock draft two point zero

1288
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, Right, we'll do that. Number one. Tennessee Titans.

1289
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: Abduel Carter fantastic.

1290
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: He Tights of their shareholds to Phil decide to take

1291
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: the best player available in this year's class. They decide

1292
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: to find their quarterback of the future in next year's draft.

1293
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: That last line makes me want to hurl myself through

1294
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: a window, the idea that next year you'll solve it. No,

1295
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: we don't have to do it this year. Yah, what

1296
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: we do it next year? We'll find Next year sure

1297
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: someone will be willing to trade at the top of

1298
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: the draft. Of course they are for that when there

1299
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: is a sure thing quarterback, which that doesn't exist. No,

1300
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what the price will be

1301
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: for the Tennessee to the franchise, Like do you have

1302
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: to do you? You can have the Tennessee Titans, but

1303
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna take Arch Banding. Well, who's gonna play for

1304
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. We got him.

1305
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: He's not even gonna come out next year.

1306
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

1307
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: That seems nuts to me? Ludicrous. Number two.

1308
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns cam Ward. The Browns could look to Travis

1309
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: Hunter here, but they need to usher in a new

1310
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: era at quarterback. Fine, yeah, it's great. Cam would be great.

1311
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: Listen.

1312
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: I think cam Ward and Shadur Sanders are both worthy

1313
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: of that number two pick for the Cleveland Browns. I

1314
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 4: think cam Ward's probably overall more talented, as I said

1315
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: kind of in my uh in my thing. And we

1316
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 4: can go through these again, and well, I'm sure we'll

1317
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: talk with a lot of people to combine about him,

1318
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: and I think that Shador Sanders, accuracy, toughness, decision making,

1319
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 4: all of it would be great in our offense. I

1320
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: think Cam would be great in our offense too. I

1321
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 4: think he, as I said, more talented, just raw tools.

1322
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: But shadoor is I love Shoran's offense. But this is

1323
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: this is what you need to do. This is how

1324
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 3: it goes. This is where you are. You need.

1325
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 4: You get an opportunity to have any quarterback in this draft,

1326
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: and you take him at number two. And I think

1327
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: we're starting to see people warm up to it. Finally,

1328
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 4: we're starting to see I think we've done the We've

1329
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 4: done a lot of work here.

1330
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: We've done We've done good for the Lord's work. That's right,

1331
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: a yeoman's effort.

1332
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: Uh they have shoot are going to Vegas at six?

1333
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: Uh?

1334
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: Torri. I mean he never gets past there. No Giants

1335
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: three Vegas six, any other surprises here.

1336
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean he's got the Bengals taking John A. Barn

1337
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: the corner out of Texas with pick seventeen, and your

1338
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: boy McMillan is on the board. He has him going

1339
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: two spots later to Tampa. Hey bake Mike Evans on

1340
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: one side, McMillan on the other.

1341
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 4: And he's the air you know, he'd be the air apparent, right, Yeah,

1342
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 4: that would be terrifying for teams in the in the NFC,

1343
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 4: South Steelers getting Ashton genty, which seems pretty good at

1344
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 4: that point in the draft.

1345
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and seems on brand for them too.

1346
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1347
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: Travon Henderson going ahead of a Mecca book is wild

1348
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: to me, and I like Trey.

1349
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 4: How about four buck guys in one, two, three, four

1350
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: or five six picks four Buckeyes.

1351
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Simmons goes twenty third to the Packers and

1352
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson goes to Detroit at twenty eight. Jackson's the

1353
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: one who was a guard all year and then they

1354
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: flipped him to tackle when they had injuries and performed

1355
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: really well. I sunging to Dane Brewler this morning and

1356
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: he said that a lot of teams in the in

1357
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: the league view him now as potentially a tackle and

1358
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: because of how well he appointed himself in the in

1359
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: the run through the through the college football playoff.

1360
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: Wow, go does Travon to Minnesota as Aaron Jones was

1361
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: he had just on a one year deal. Maybe he was.

1362
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Trey helped himself a lot by staying healthy,

1363
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: which is something he'd never really did, but playing with

1364
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: Quinchan allowed for him to stay healthy. And then he's

1365
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: a total back, Like he blocks out of the backfield,

1366
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: he can catch passes. He's kind of a never come

1367
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: off the board or off the field.

1368
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 3: Back all right.

1369
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 4: So the Vikings have a little more time to work

1370
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: out a way to avoid taking on dead money from

1371
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 4: runner back to Aaron Jones under their twenty five cap

1372
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: signed a one year deal with the team last year,

1373
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 4: but included a void year to spread out the cap hit.

1374
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: The contract was set to void on Monday, but the

1375
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 4: Vikings and Jones have agreed to push that void date

1376
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 4: back to March eleventh, that's one day before the start

1377
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 4: of the new year. If Jose's contract voids, there will

1378
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: be a dead cap hit of three point two million

1379
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: for the Vikings. Pushing the date back gives the two

1380
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 4: sides to work on an extension that would keep the

1381
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 4: Vikings from incurring that charge. So I think if they obviously,

1382
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 4: if they will get him extended, it would be less

1383
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: likely they would take Trayvon in the first round.

1384
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 2: I would think, yeah, all right, there you go. All right.

1385
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: Coming up next we will build our perfect lineup. We

1386
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: will also go and continue our tour around the AFC.

1387
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: Jason Horowitz on the Raiders side of things. Coming up.

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01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: At two thirty, I listened to Clevelan Bronz Daily on

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Speaker 2: All right, we have an NBC build the perfect lineup.

1397
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: We have fifteen dollars to spend. There is a list

1398
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: of players there. You see if you're watching on YouTube,

1399
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: you see a list of players at five. So the

1400
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: five dollars players Josh Allen, sak One Barkley, Jamar Chase, Justin, Jefferson,

1401
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers, and then down from there. In terms of

1402
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: the value of this, so I had asked you in

1403
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: g Man, is this am I picking my best team?

1404
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: Or am I picking a fantasy team, and it's just

1405
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: the best team.

1406
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: Do you think the best?

1407
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: All right? I got mine. I got Burrow for a buck.

1408
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: All right, Burrow quarterback.

1409
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: Same, that seems like a pretty good deal. There, give

1410
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: me Jamiir Gibbs.

1411
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on three bucks. So that was one I

1412
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: was one way I was going with it, but I

1413
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: ended up not going that way. All right, So you

1414
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: have Jamir Gibbs and give me Laporta for a buck.

1415
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: Okay, You've got Sam Laporta for one buck.

1416
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: And then I'll take Chase and Jefferson, Jamar Chase, justin Jeffer.

1417
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: Five bucks on Gibbs, Burrow and Laporta and five each

1418
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: on Chase and Jefferson.

1419
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 4: All Right, I've got two squads, because of course I didn't.

1420
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: And I'm curious which ones do you like?

1421
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: I like yours. I think Laporta.

1422
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 4: If this was Laporta coming off of his season last year,

1423
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 4: is not very inspiring to me. It's still solid. And

1424
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 4: then Gibbs. So I like Gibbs a lot.

1425
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 3: He was a monster monster, I mean monster, He's an

1426
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: I got the two best receivers.

1427
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: In the game, Yes you do.

1428
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 4: So I went about it. I had two different ways

1429
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 4: that I went about it. So I went the first

1430
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 4: one was Joe Burrow.

1431
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: That's the cheat code. He should not be a dollar.

1432
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, I love it.

1433
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1434
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: Right, Then I went Bijeon for a dollar.

1435
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: I thought about Bijeon. He I gave great consideration for

1436
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: Bijeon for a buck.

1437
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: So Bijeon in a kind of a situation.

1438
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: The difference is, does that is Laporta that much worse

1439
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: than Kittle? The whole did you go?

1440
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 3: Bowers done?

1441
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 5: So?

1442
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 4: Bijeon was fourteen fifty six and fourteen rushing four point

1443
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 4: eight yards of carry and also could catch at sixty

1444
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 4: one thirty one. He had nineteen hundred yards fifteen touchdowns.

1445
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 4: Gibbs was incredible protective. Then I went on this team Bowers,

1446
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 4: who was the first team All Pro tight end.

1447
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1448
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 4: Then I took Jamar Chase over Jefferson because Jamar Chase

1449
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 4: has a relationship with Joe Burrow.

1450
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: And then I paired him with elite Neighbors.

1451
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had Neighbors and Lamb were both in

1452
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 2: consideration for me too, like in terms of other ways

1453
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: to navigate it, yep, all right, So I that those

1454
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: are the other two I considered it was neighbors and

1455
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: Lamb versus. All right, so here's my person and then

1456
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: that got a different tight end. But unless you get

1457
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: to me, the drop off from Bowers to the rest

1458
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: of these tight ends is pretty big, which is probably

1459
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: why you took him, yep, as the five pointer.

1460
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: I don't know so this I can't like.

1461
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: What's the difference between How big of a difference is

1462
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: it between like Kelsey now and Laporta.

1463
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 4: That I don't think is I actually think the best

1464
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 4: I think the best player on there is Bowers. I

1465
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 4: think the second best ones McBride.

1466
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1467
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 3: So my other team I see team will call it

1468
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 3: was Burrow for one, Saquon for five, Okay, Trey McBride

1469
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: for two yep, Jamar Chase for five, and Ceed Lamb

1470
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 3: for two.

1471
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the two that are so I like

1472
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: that team. I think the the two that the real

1473
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: issue with this setup, the way they did this. Burrow

1474
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: being a dollar is not represented. He should have been too,

1475
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: should Yeah he's got to go. He should be here,

1476
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: he should he could be there. Yeah, he should come

1477
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: up to here. If we're doing like you can't help

1478
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: but do this statistically, like you're thinking about fantasy and

1479
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: you're thinking about that.

1480
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 3: Like, so he should come up, Yes, he should not

1481
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 3: be a dollar. He should not be a dollar, and

1482
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: then the different hurt should be a dollar.

1483
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: As great as these two are chasing Jefferson, like, I

1484
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: don't know that they are that much better forget statistically,

1485
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: I mean they pay both playing really good system like

1486
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: Neighbors and Lamb like Ceedee, Lamb's unbelievable Ceedee.

1487
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 4: Lamb last year had two years ago one thirty five,

1488
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 4: seventeen forty nine twelve. This year he got a little

1489
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: bit banged up and he had won on one twelve

1490
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 4: hundred and six. Right, Neighbors had twelve hundred and seven.

1491
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: Right, Look, it's not that big of a top off.

1492
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: The two tight ends that are in their kind of

1493
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: own league are Bowers and McBride from just a production standpoint,

1494
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 4: both over one hundred catches, both over a one hundred yards,

1495
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 4: so Bowers. So the question is is Bijon, I mean,

1496
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 4: we did it right, We hit all the right notes.

1497
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe's the cheat code though, Burrow's the cheat code, yes,

1498
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: and so like once once that happens, then you this

1499
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 2: is what's nuts. That's one college offense. Joe Burrow, Jamar

1500
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: Chase Justin Jefferson is a college offense that played together.

1501
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: And the other guys are good too.

1502
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: Terres Marshall, fight.

1503
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: Edwards Lair was a first round running back. Marshall Moss's

1504
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: kid was the tight end.

1505
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like.

1506
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: That that those two receivers and Joe Burrow played on

1507
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 2: one team in college.

1508
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: I don't wonder you through and then Brian Thomas and

1509
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: neighbors play together.

1510
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no wonder Jane Daniels won the Heisman.

1511
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: Yea, one of those two, Jane Daniels could have been

1512
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: on this list.

1513
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, NBC pulled up Monster Jade and daniels rookie card. Really, dude,

1514
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: he's it's crazy. He's like doing he did last night.

1515
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: I was like ready to go to He's up there

1516
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: doing like live auctions with his cards.

1517
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 3: On what on some app interesting?

1518
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. What the hell he's doing?

1519
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: So does he have to send him off together?

1520
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1521
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy man. All right, Well, continue our

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Speaker 2: tour around the AFC. We will do so with the

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders. Jason Horowitz radio play by play voice

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Speaker 2: will join us. Coming up next to us to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: H Right, we continue our off season preview and last

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Speaker 2: season review around the AFC in Vegas. Jason Horowitz radio

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Speaker 2: play by play voice of your Las Vegas Raiders. He

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Speaker 2: joins on the Twisted Tea Outline presented by Twisted T

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Speaker 3: Jason, thank you so.

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Speaker 2: Much for taking the time. Let's start with the Pete

1536
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: Carroll Higher. He's a jolt of energy for sure, even

1537
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: at an advanced age. Were you surprised at the higher?

1538
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: And what impact have you felt just around town and

1539
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: around the organization with Pete in the mix?

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Speaker 7: Well, a couple of things. First of all, I hope

1541
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 7: you guys are having an awesome start to your week.

1542
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 7: I I wasn't surprised because it had been discussed, you know, Uh,

1543
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 7: Pete Carroll's name was out there right from the get go,

1544
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 7: and uh, you know, the certainly there were a lot

1545
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 7: of thoughts that Ben Johnson might be the guy. But

1546
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 7: when Ben Johnson decided to take the Chicago Bears, it

1547
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 7: pretty quickly jumped back to Pete Carroll. And you know,

1548
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 7: you you talked about the energy, that there is something

1549
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 7: that is there with that. I you know, I I've

1550
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 7: known Pete a while and and through through mutual friends

1551
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 7: that we worked with with regards to the NFL, and

1552
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 7: nobody would guess that he's about to be the oldest

1553
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 7: coach in the history of the NFL. He coaches with

1554
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 7: that passion, they practice with that passion. And I think

1555
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 7: there is a legitimate excitement because you brought back John Gruden,

1556
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 7: and John Gruden had success in the NFL, but he

1557
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 7: had been out of the NFL for a long time

1558
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 7: from a coaching perspective, and then obviously everything fell apart

1559
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 7: with the emails and the lawsuits and all of that stuff.

1560
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 7: But since then they haven't had an established head coach

1561
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 7: and they've been searching for that. Rich Pasacia interim, the

1562
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 7: Josh McDaniels was not established good head coach, and then

1563
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 7: Antonio Peers interim, and then Antonio Peers one year. So

1564
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 7: I think there's an excitement in that you go back

1565
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 7: to someone who has a pedigree of winning at a

1566
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 7: very high level.

1567
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has done it at a very high level.

1568
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 4: He brings in with him and I'm curious, see what

1569
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 4: you thought of this. Chip Kelly, the new offensive coordinator,

1570
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 4: been at UCLA, most recently with the Ohio State Buckeyes

1571
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: as the OC on their national championship team, and that

1572
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 4: feels to me like a big move. What do you

1573
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 4: get the sense of that that Chip Kelly is there

1574
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 4: to do has been a head coach in the league

1575
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 4: as well.

1576
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 3: What was your reaction to that?

1577
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 7: Higher guys weren't trying to come up with money to

1578
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 7: get him from two point one to six million dollars?

1579
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 7: Isn't that your job? On the Cleveland Round Radio, I

1580
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 7: think couple of different things. First of all, the money

1581
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 7: was daggering. Now it's a little bit different because the

1582
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 7: amount of new coaches are making so much more in

1583
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 7: the bar is elevated. But if you look I looked

1584
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 7: at a just because I was curious. I looked at

1585
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 7: a dollars incents from the start of the twenty twenty

1586
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Speaker 7: fourth NFL season, and Chip Kelly's six million dollars a

1587
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 7: year was more than twenty NFL head coaches last year,

1588
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 7: So that that was startling now' getting that number is

1589
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 7: down now, But that was the first startling thing. But

1590
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 7: the second startling thing, guys, is that you know, Chip Kelly,

1591
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Speaker 7: I think is remembered for some of the you know,

1592
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 7: in the NFL his three years of the Eagles and

1593
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 7: one with the Niners. He was remembered for some of

1594
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 7: the quirky stuff and people talk about like the smoothies

1595
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 7: and the diets and the things he was going to

1596
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 7: bring to the Eagles that you know, they went ten

1597
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 7: and six, which is which is solid, but I think

1598
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 7: people forget they went ten and six with some quarterbacks

1599
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 7: that wouldn't think of as like the greatest NFL quarterbacks.

1600
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Speaker 7: One of them was Mark Santez, one of them was

1601
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 7: Nick Foles. He kind of got, you know, Michael Vick

1602
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 7: a couple of years removed from prison back in the NFL,

1603
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 7: and like you remember some of the things he did there,

1604
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 7: so like he did it with different guys in different ways.

1605
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 7: And the offense his first two years with the Eagles

1606
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 7: not only was it innovative, but it was top five

1607
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 7: in the NFL both those years. So I think I

1608
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 7: think you're gonna get a Chip Kelly that has been

1609
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 7: creative and successful offensively pretty much every time he's ever

1610
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 7: drawn up those plays. And I think the Raiders are

1611
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 7: gonna benefit from that because for my time, guys, this

1612
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 7: will be my fourth year in the NFL. The last

1613
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 7: two years the Raiders, they had struggled to get to

1614
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 7: twenty every single week. And you know, Kip Kelly can

1615
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 7: get him in twenty four to twenty five a week.

1616
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 7: You're talking about a totally different team.

1617
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a score to win. Pretty simple, It

1618
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: is very simple.

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01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then that leads the question that leads the question, Jase,

1621
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 2: who's going to be the signal caller for Chip to orchestrate?

1622
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: What's the dream offseason for the Raiders at quarterback?

1623
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 7: I think I think in a dream scenario they have

1624
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 7: a rookie quarterback, right, you know someone Now I say that,

1625
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 7: I say that without knowing whether or not our new GM,

1626
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 7: John spikeeck to Kelly and the staff, which is, you know,

1627
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 7: ever evolving. Champ. Kelly was supposed to be back as

1628
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 7: an assistant GM, and the news came out yesterday that

1629
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 7: he and the team decided to part ways. So it's

1630
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 7: an evolving staff. But I think in a perfect world

1631
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 7: they feel that either cam Ward or should Door Sanders

1632
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 7: is the future in the NFL, and a guy that

1633
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 7: can go toe to toe with Mahomes and Herbert and Bonnix,

1634
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 7: that that's the guy, right because you're getting a guy

1635
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 7: at a rookie deal for five years and with all

1636
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 7: the money that the Raiders have to spend their second

1637
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 7: most in the NFL in terms of cap space behind

1638
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 7: the Patriots. You put that guy with free agents and

1639
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 7: signing your own free agents, and you think you've got

1640
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 7: a future franchise for years to come, like Pete Carroll

1641
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 7: had in Seattle when they hit on Russell Wilson and

1642
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 7: went eight or nine straight years of double digit wins

1643
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 7: with a couple of ninety seven pieces captain there. So

1644
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 7: that's the ideal scenario when you're sitting at six and

1645
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 7: the Browns and the Giants and the Titans all need

1646
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 7: quarterbacks who let alone people who behind you who might

1647
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 7: want to jump over. It's not completely in your hands.

1648
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 7: So you know a lot of people are pointing to

1649
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 7: Sam Darnold. I don't know, you know, I was told

1650
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 7: by one of our beat writers the other day on

1651
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 7: Super Bowl Sunday that everything's in play, and I wrote back,

1652
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 7: what does that mean? And he wrote back thoughly that.

1653
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: In play.

1654
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 7: So I wouldn't be shocked if there's a trade for

1655
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 7: a name that you weren't expecting because of all that

1656
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 7: cap space. And I also wouldn't be shocked if they

1657
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 7: get one of those rookie quarterbacks in the top five

1658
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 7: or six.

1659
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 4: Do you think that they would aggressively if they deem that,

1660
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: you know, Sanders reward are there. Would they be a

1661
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 4: team that tries to aggressively get in the top two?

1662
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 7: You know what, I'm not sure because John Spikes that

1663
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 7: comes from the Buccaneers, and the Buccaneers at least in

1664
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 7: his time, they weren't agreat in moving up, you know,

1665
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 7: they were more What that means anything, I don't know.

1666
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 7: He wasn't the one calling the shots, right, He wasn't

1667
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 7: the main he wasn't the general manager. So I don't

1668
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 7: know if you can go based on his history and

1669
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 7: background with the Bucks or other franchises and say, well,

1670
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 7: this is how he's gonna play it. You know, people

1671
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 7: talked about that last year with Tom Telesco in his

1672
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 7: one year and uh, and they did not move up now,

1673
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 7: I don't. I also don't think they thought that six

1674
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 7: would be gone in the top twelve, but they did

1675
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 7: not move up and they hit a sure fire you

1676
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 7: know star in rock Powers, you know, and and and

1677
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 7: they also got two starters in the second and third

1678
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 7: round who I think are going to be starters on

1679
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 7: the offensive line this year. So you know, Tom Telesco

1680
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 7: in the draft last year was very successful and and

1681
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 7: and you know, to his credit, they were also very

1682
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 7: successful in bringing in free agent. Not at the quarterback position.

1683
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 7: Obviously that's the struggle and he's obviously not there, but

1684
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 7: but they were successful in other places as well. I

1685
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 7: think if Shader standards they think is the future of

1686
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 7: this franchise and is the guy that they identify as

1687
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 7: is a future star, would be aggressive and going to

1688
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 7: get him. I do.

1689
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 4: So we talked about, you know, the decision makers there,

1690
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 4: and we've you mentioned a Tom Tom Telesco who's no

1691
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 4: longer there, but Tom Brady is there. And Tom Brady

1692
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 4: obviously played a role in this staff and the GM

1693
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 4: who was with him in Tampa. How involved is he

1694
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 4: going to be in terms of his evaluation of these quarterbacks?

1695
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 4: And I know that he's got some ties to Shador

1696
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 4: and has liked him. You know, how, how do you

1697
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 4: see his role in all of this playing out. I

1698
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 4: think that's fascinating.

1699
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 7: No, I do too, And and there's still be part

1700
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 7: of this. I'm still not positive about what he's allowed

1701
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 7: to and what not allowed to do, you know. And

1702
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 7: that's the part of it. And I'm not asking questions

1703
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 7: or even even.

1704
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody is.

1705
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 7: No, And that's the crazy part, Like that's for the

1706
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 7: thirty two owners to figure out whether they like it

1707
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 7: or not. And hes not going anywhere from the broadcast group.

1708
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 7: But he is absolutely playing a role, and it's been

1709
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 7: an active one and it's been a and it's been

1710
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 7: one that people have talked about and written about. And

1711
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 7: I don't think they're shying away from him. And I'll

1712
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 7: give credits to Mark Davison this, you know. I he

1713
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 7: he decided actively for a while before it went through

1714
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 7: to pursue someone with more football knowledge than that he

1715
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 7: could possibly ask to get into this franchise, and he did.

1716
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 7: And I think it'd be silly not to have Tom

1717
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 7: Brady play a role in the who could be the

1718
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 7: quarterback of the future. I think that would be silly.

1719
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 7: But I also think I also think it would be

1720
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 7: silly to think just because Tom Brady thinks someone is

1721
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 7: going to be great, that it assumes that that next

1722
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 7: guy is going to be Tom Brady. Because it's not

1723
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 7: just the physical tools in the video that he's looking at.

1724
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 7: There's no way to know what the mental makeup of

1725
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 7: a person's going to be when when they're under that scrutiny.

1726
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 7: So I think he's going to play an active role

1727
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 7: looking at all these quarterbacks, talking all these quarterbacks. I

1728
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 7: don't know what his role is in terms of what

1729
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 7: he's allowed to be in terms of combine and free

1730
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 7: agency and folks, I don't know the answer to that.

1731
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 7: But I think in terms of asking the questions, Dave,

1732
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 7: what do you think of this guy? What do you

1733
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 7: think of that guy? They'd be silly not to ask

1734
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 7: those questions.

1735
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: Jason, how since he's been a part of the ownership group,

1736
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: how present is he?

1737
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 7: Like?

1738
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 2: Is he around town? Is he does he make his

1739
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm asking does he live there?

1740
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: Like?

1741
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: How is he around the building?

1742
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 7: I don't know the Yeah, yeah, I know in the

1743
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 7: in the off season. Uh, he was definitely present, you know,

1744
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 7: early in the off season coaching start TM search definitely

1745
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 7: part of all those. Some of those were on zoom

1746
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 7: right because he was doing playoff games, he was doing

1747
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl, so so he has roles elsewhere, but

1748
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 7: he was he was making stops into Las Vegas. You

1749
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 7: know what, what is his uh in terms of sitting

1750
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 7: with Pete Carroll and John spy Tech and all those guys.

1751
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 7: I honestly, guys, I truly don't know. I don't live

1752
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 7: in Las Vegas, So that's part of it. I can't

1753
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 7: tell you, you know, the ins and outs of how

1754
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 7: many day he's in the building. But but but he,

1755
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 7: you know, is now in the post Super Bowl realm

1756
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 7: where I would think he has a chance to have

1757
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 7: an active role in all of that and be part

1758
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 7: of what the Raiders are going to do with this

1759
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 7: free agency market.

1760
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: You mentioned all that money.

1761
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 4: They've got some good pieces Max Crosby on defense obviously,

1762
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 4: and then on offense. Bowers is a home run. You

1763
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 4: talk to people around the league, they think that he's

1764
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 4: going to be a Hall of Famer. They think that

1765
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 4: he's that good.

1766
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 3: What would kind of be Let's slow the role on that, though,

1767
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 3: shall we. I'm just saying people from a talent standpoint

1768
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 3: think he's that good.

1769
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 7: I know, but like all your long if you're calling

1770
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 7: Browns games every week, you in Siciliano like you get this.

1771
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 7: You're getting the notes in the NFL sends you these

1772
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 7: historical notes and these milestones, watching these records to watch

1773
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 7: it every week. He was getting, you know, he he's

1774
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 7: speeting this guy. He's that yes, of course, but some

1775
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 7: of the guys he was behind get but some of

1776
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 7: the others were like awesome for two years. And then

1777
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 7: you would you say Kyle Pitts is a Hall of Famer.

1778
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 3: No, I certainly would not. I would not.

1779
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 4: I find his utilization fascinating. That's another show though. The

1780
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 4: fact that you can't get Kyle Pitts going to me

1781
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 4: is the guy looks like he's a different size of human.

1782
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 3: He's a different species.

1783
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 7: He is had we played the Falcons Monday night in December.

1784
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 7: He is a different sized human being. I was down

1785
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 7: on the field. But to my point is he has

1786
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 7: the makings of being something special. But one year does

1787
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 7: not make Hall of Fame.

1788
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 3: Career, right, So sure, so for sure.

1789
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 7: Let's see what happens and let's see how it moves forward.

1790
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 7: And all that stuff. But he has a football mentality

1791
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 7: and the work ethic to be something special. You were

1792
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 7: gonna something else that I totally cut you off.

1793
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: No, that's good. It's good. We're right back at CBS,

1794
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 3: back in the good old days. What a rock Bowers.

1795
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 4: So let's just say, let me rephrase it. Then you

1796
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: feel good about tight end. You got your tight end?

1797
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 4: What would be kind of your wishless As we were

1798
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 4: talking earlier about scoring, obviously you need the quarterback. But

1799
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 4: around that, you know, this was a team that's ont

1800
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs go to Green Bay and blossom have an

1801
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 4: unbelievable season.

1802
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 3: It's a good running back draft.

1803
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 4: Is this a team that you're thinking is going to

1804
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 4: add you know, probably they have money for a big

1805
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 4: target receiver if they want, and then obviously an opportunity

1806
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 4: to make a splash, whether free to see or the

1807
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: drafted running back skill. Is this a team that you

1808
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 4: think is gonna taxt skill positions.

1809
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 7: Both of those questions, Yes, I would think so. Jacoby

1810
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 7: Myers is a really solid number two receiver. He had

1811
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 7: a one thousand yards and that's without DeVante Adams and

1812
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 7: he missed three games. He is a solid really good.

1813
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 7: Like you know, back to those record conversations, you know,

1814
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 7: he is putting up some numbers that have never really

1815
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 7: been put up before by undrafted free agent of receivers

1816
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 7: in their first six years in the league, you know.

1817
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 7: And and some of that was with the Patriots without

1818
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 7: a quarterback for a couple of years. Mac Jones and

1819
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 7: whoever else was in his last year in New England.

1820
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 7: So so there's solid to brock Bowers bona fide star

1821
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 7: fight ends another receiver, there's no quest they need another

1822
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 7: go to receiver. And so if there's no quarterback up

1823
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 7: there in the draft, you know, people are talking about

1824
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 7: its tether Rowan McMillan. There's a possibility that Travis Hunter

1825
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 7: is still around at that point. Although I know a

1826
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 7: lot of people think he's corner not receiver, but he

1827
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 7: obviously has that skill set as well. So that's something

1828
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 7: they're going to address. There is no question they need

1829
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 7: to address running back.

1830
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1831
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 7: I like Alexander Madison. He played hard, and I mean

1832
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 7: really hard every week, but he's your number two, you know,

1833
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 7: or your one be he's not an every down Josh

1834
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 7: Jacobs type. Fact that we've seen your state que Barks

1835
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 7: because he's not that guy. So so they absolutely have

1836
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 7: to address that. They absolutely have to address receiver. We

1837
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 7: all know they need a quarterback and he's still need

1838
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 7: a couple of offensive lines.

1839
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 6: You know.

1840
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 7: Colton Miller, he's been the you know, the guy who's

1841
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 7: the been the stalwart and left tackle for for a

1842
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 7: long time. But he's been starting to deal with injuries

1843
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 7: the last couple of years and it took him a

1844
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 7: while to get back into it from offseason shoulder surgery.

1845
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 7: They are floating around who is their left guard? Who

1846
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 7: is their right guard? You know, I think they feel

1847
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 7: good about Jackson powers Johnson last your second round pick,

1848
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 7: but the new regime and maybe the new regime doesn't

1849
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 7: think the same way. So the answer to your question

1850
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 7: is a lot. You've got one too, maybe four guys

1851
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 7: that you're definitely gonna start next year, and after that

1852
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 7: everything is up in the air.

1853
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: Jason more likely Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers out there.

1854
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 7: But I'd rather have Russell Wilson. Look, you know, and

1855
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 7: and maybe that's because I'm not a big that Maybe

1856
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 7: that's because I am a big believer in medicine and

1857
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 7: science and I don't really want to have to deal

1858
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 7: with Aaron Rodgers spaghettios that he's gonna take as his medicine.

1859
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 7: Maybe that's just me, But I think he's done, guys,

1860
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, and and I think Russell Wilson's

1861
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 7: done too. But but but but Russell Wilson at least

1862
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 7: for the first and you guys saw it of being

1863
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 7: in the division the first when he came back, it

1864
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 7: looked like what Russell Wilson could be. And even last

1865
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 7: year was Sean Payton in Denver. He's still put up

1866
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 7: really good numbers. It just didn't work anymore, ye and

1867
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 7: for you know, whatever that is. But obviously he and

1868
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 7: Pete Carroll have a relation ship that that freight at

1869
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 7: the end because they traded him, but they have a

1870
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 7: working relationship that goes back a decade. And so I

1871
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 7: would one hundred percent rather see that than the guy

1872
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 7: who had a worse record on the same roster than

1873
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 7: Zach Wilson had the year before, and he got Davonte Adams.

1874
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 7: So I would much rather see Rogers, and I may

1875
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 7: quit and apply somewhere else. If they signed Aaron Rogerson.

1876
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 4: He's well, I'm clearly well liked he's well liked around

1877
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 4: around this league. Real quick, you mentioned Dvante Adams. I

1878
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 4: thought kind of the way that that all went down

1879
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 4: last year was pretty wild. Now that you've had the

1880
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 4: distance from the season too to go through it, what

1881
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 4: did you think about that Davante Adams situation.

1882
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 3: Cause I'm pretty sure it started against US where he.

1883
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 4: Was all of a sudden just not playing, and then

1884
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 4: it was kind of went downhill from there.

1885
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 7: I think it started way before that there. I think

1886
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 7: there was sure some of the issues between Antonio Pearson's

1887
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 7: staff and Davante Adams and stuff really frankly started before

1888
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 7: Antonio Pierce was head coach. I mean, you guys all

1889
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 7: saw it on That's like when they downplayed it during

1890
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 7: the summer the last year when that show Receiver came out,

1891
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 7: he was visibly hurt, frustrated and angry with what was

1892
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 7: happening with Jimmy Garoppolo and Brian Hoyer and some of

1893
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 7: that stuff. So it started, and it was a carryover effect.

1894
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 7: And then beyond that, you know, and I'm not really

1895
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 7: sure what happened with all this, And this is not

1896
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 7: first ten knowledge with Antonio Pierce or DeVante or any

1897
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 7: of those guys, but he had talked up Aidan O'Connell.

1898
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 7: Then they decided to go with Gardner Minshew and Week

1899
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 7: one did not go well. Week two he was awesome,

1900
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 7: both of them, but not until the fourth quarter. But

1901
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 7: DeVante Adams and Gardner Minshew handed. We brought the Raiders

1902
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 7: back in Baltimore for a massive comeback fourth quarter upset.

1903
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 7: Winn of the Ravens back at week two and you're like,

1904
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 7: all right, everything's gonna be okay. This team has a

1905
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 7: chance maybe to be better than people believe. And then

1906
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 7: you put the awful performance against the Panthers and then

1907
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 7: he got quote unquote hurt in practice that week, and

1908
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 7: then we never saw the Vontanna Raiders uniform again. So

1909
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 7: I think there's a bunch of stuff that was built up.

1910
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 7: I think some of it then carried over. And then

1911
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 7: the team just offensively wasn't very good. And then he

1912
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 7: went to the Jets and they weren't very good. So, look,

1913
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 7: Davante has got a lot left, guys. We see it.

1914
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 7: There's there's no question that he's got he's got something

1915
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 7: left for a couple of years, and he is going

1916
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 7: to make someone's roster better wherever that is from a

1917
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 7: from a from a relationship standpoint, and and obviously a

1918
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 7: football mentality. It's just it prayed with the Raiders early

1919
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 7: last year.

1920
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 2: Jason, this was great. It's always yep, awesome catching up

1921
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 2: with you. Thanks for giving us a little bit of

1922
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: your time today.

1923
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 7: You guys got a prediction of what week you're in

1924
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 7: Vegas next year?

1925
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 3: No, but I'm excited we'll be back. I'll tell you what.

1926
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 3: Just selfishly, i'd like it to be in December.

1927
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Can we go now?

1928
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, play advance.

1929
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: Stating it's seventeen here now, Jay.

1930
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like it's all relative, brother, It's all relative.

1931
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 7: I had someone ask me if I want to if

1932
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 7: our if our children were interested in a softball tournament

1933
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 7: in July, and I reminded them that it was one

1934
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 7: hundred and fifteen d a degree for nineteen straight days

1935
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 7: last July, and the answer was affirmative.

1936
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 3: We know.

1937
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 2: Good talking to you man, Thanks for your time.

1938
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 7: Bye, guys, take you. I have a great author.

1939
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: Jason Harwitz, Radio play by play voice of your Las

1940
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders. So much more to come. Cleveland brown Daily

1941
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1942
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1943
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1944
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:46,520
Speaker 3: And Cleveland.

1945
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: All right. Next week at this time, we will be

1946
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 2: completing our our our first full combine show from Indy.

1947
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: We'll be there in a blink. Yeah, we're gonna be

1948
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 2: done and then we'll be Uh do we have Do

1949
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 2: we have dining set up for Tuesday night?

1950
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 3: We do?

1951
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

1952
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 3: Baby, yeah we do.

1953
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: We're greenlit on what what is appropriate.

1954
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 3: I'll go find out about that.

1955
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about you don't.

1956
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about it. Yeah, you're fine. I think.

1957
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: What does Gibbee come back Thursday?

1958
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 6: Thursday?

1959
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: What a we call for him?

1960
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 3: Good for him? Yeah? Good forgive me, good forgive me.

1961
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: It's out there.

1962
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 3: We'll say you did a heck of a job today.

1963
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Back there, gentlemen. Heck of a job.

1964
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeoman's effort.

1965
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, very good.

1966
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 2: Show goes on, all right, So I'm gonna try. Do

1967
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: I do one episode of White Lotus or I start

1968
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 2: Severance because I should. We should be free and clear.

1969
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 2: I got basketball till seven thirty. Then I'm free and clear.

1970
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 2: After nine, the kids will all be they'll be all

1971
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 2: hidden down.

1972
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 3: I think Severance, you're gonna want to start and like you're.

1973
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 4: Gonna want to rip like three episodes, okay, because the

1974
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 4: first one's kind of slow and you need to like

1975
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 4: you need to kind of get into that world. Now,

1976
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 4: White Lotus, you have one episode to watch before next Sunday,

1977
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 4: So I mean, you have lots of opportunities to do it.

1978
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 3: There's nothing that's.

1979
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I think if I watch White Light Lotus,

1980
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 2: so then you and I can talk about that tomorrow. Well,

1981
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: that's fine, watch if I watch Severance, I can't. I

1982
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: got to catch up to you before we can have

1983
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 2: that conversation.

1984
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm tough.

1985
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since I've really just like

1986
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 4: thought about a show the way that this show makes

1987
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 4: me think about it.

1988
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: You go, all right, next levels next, Thanks for listening Rebody,

1989
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Speaker 2: Cleve the Brons Daily, A fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1990
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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

1991
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