1 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:22,955 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of I Heart Radio. Firstly, briefly, 2 00:00:23,235 --> 00:00:26,555 Speaker 1: what we actually know about the breaking news such as 3 00:00:26,595 --> 00:00:30,155 Speaker 1: it is the everybody is reporting report that special counsel 4 00:00:30,235 --> 00:00:35,035 Speaker 1: Jack Smith has subpoena Mike Pence for documents and testimony. 5 00:00:35,115 --> 00:00:39,995 Speaker 1: Here is what we know. It's about January six. Everything 6 00:00:39,995 --> 00:00:43,275 Speaker 1: else you have heard is about filling time on cable. 7 00:00:43,675 --> 00:00:48,755 Speaker 1: This is about January six. Only two bits of speculation 8 00:00:48,875 --> 00:00:52,915 Speaker 1: or context are either relevant or true. Obviously, the negotiations 9 00:00:52,915 --> 00:00:56,835 Speaker 1: for a voluntary interview of Pence have collapsed. And Secondly, 10 00:00:57,075 --> 00:01:01,195 Speaker 1: Mike Pence is remembered almost exclusively when he is remembered 11 00:01:01,235 --> 00:01:04,675 Speaker 1: at all, for not enacting Trump's plan to throw out 12 00:01:04,795 --> 00:01:08,235 Speaker 1: the legitimate slates of presidential electors in favor of fake ones, 13 00:01:08,435 --> 00:01:12,635 Speaker 1: thus overthrowing the election and the government. And while this 14 00:01:12,715 --> 00:01:15,475 Speaker 1: is something he refused to do for Trump, it is 15 00:01:15,515 --> 00:01:18,595 Speaker 1: imperative to remember that it is basically the only thing 16 00:01:18,675 --> 00:01:21,755 Speaker 1: he refused to do for Trump, and all evidence then 17 00:01:21,875 --> 00:01:24,755 Speaker 1: and now confirms he only refused to do it for 18 00:01:24,795 --> 00:01:27,035 Speaker 1: Trump because he was not convinced he and Trump could 19 00:01:27,075 --> 00:01:30,515 Speaker 1: get away with it. He is the farthest thing from 20 00:01:30,515 --> 00:01:35,995 Speaker 1: a hero Meanwhile today, right now, Chairman Jim Jordan knows 21 00:01:36,075 --> 00:01:39,275 Speaker 1: better than anybody else in the world that the first 22 00:01:39,395 --> 00:01:42,915 Speaker 1: rule of holding a political sham show on the alleged 23 00:01:42,955 --> 00:01:46,635 Speaker 1: weaponization of the federal government is to make sure that 24 00:01:46,675 --> 00:01:50,875 Speaker 1: whatever you claim the weapon is, you do not point 25 00:01:50,955 --> 00:01:57,755 Speaker 1: it at yourself. His star witness former FBI agent Thomas Baker, 26 00:01:57,795 --> 00:02:00,875 Speaker 1: the insider who could tell a breathless America about how 27 00:02:00,875 --> 00:02:03,955 Speaker 1: the Bureau had been locked, loaded and aimed at conservatives. 28 00:02:04,195 --> 00:02:07,755 Speaker 1: He turned now to have left the FBI in a 29 00:02:07,875 --> 00:02:14,395 Speaker 1: previous century. Congressman Dan Goldman, a former impeachment prosecutor, neatly 30 00:02:14,515 --> 00:02:19,795 Speaker 1: folded agent Baker FBI Class of nineteen sixty six, fit 31 00:02:19,875 --> 00:02:23,715 Speaker 1: him into an eight by ten envelope like the seal, 32 00:02:24,115 --> 00:02:27,755 Speaker 1: and mailed him home to mommy. You never worked in 33 00:02:27,955 --> 00:02:30,595 Speaker 1: conjunction with the Department of Homeland Security when you worked 34 00:02:30,595 --> 00:02:33,675 Speaker 1: for the FBI. Right, I was working as a consultant 35 00:02:33,715 --> 00:02:35,875 Speaker 1: during when you were for the FBI, when you were 36 00:02:35,875 --> 00:02:39,515 Speaker 1: paid by the FBI as a as a special agent. 37 00:02:39,595 --> 00:02:42,395 Speaker 1: Did you work with Homeland Security? No, it didn't exist. 38 00:02:43,355 --> 00:02:46,275 Speaker 1: And you never investigated for an interference in our elections? 39 00:02:46,315 --> 00:02:49,795 Speaker 1: Did you? No? I personally did not. And you have 40 00:02:49,835 --> 00:02:53,195 Speaker 1: no experience investigating Russia's efforts to interfere in our elections 41 00:02:53,195 --> 00:02:56,355 Speaker 1: through cyber attacks and social media. Do you other than 42 00:02:56,355 --> 00:03:00,355 Speaker 1: what I've studied and researched. Okay, and when you left, 43 00:03:00,395 --> 00:03:07,675 Speaker 1: did smartphones exist of a suet? Yes? Well, we had 44 00:03:07,955 --> 00:03:12,435 Speaker 1: we had phones. We had smartphones, smartphone had Well do 45 00:03:12,475 --> 00:03:16,875 Speaker 1: you ever do any search warrants for emails? Search warrants 46 00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:21,995 Speaker 1: for emails? No, I did not wad phones, Sunny. He 47 00:03:22,155 --> 00:03:25,155 Speaker 1: picked it up, and you, Gertie, it's central to get 48 00:03:25,195 --> 00:03:28,355 Speaker 1: your plaza eight eight six so you could talk to 49 00:03:28,435 --> 00:03:34,115 Speaker 1: President McKinley his own self in a way. It is 50 00:03:34,195 --> 00:03:36,715 Speaker 1: too bad that the record breaking thirty six hours of 51 00:03:36,755 --> 00:03:40,355 Speaker 1: self humiliation by the Republicans that I mentioned yesterday was 52 00:03:40,395 --> 00:03:44,995 Speaker 1: extended to forty eight hours at that amazing Weaponization Subcommittee 53 00:03:45,035 --> 00:03:48,555 Speaker 1: hearing that was so bad, so bad that Fox News 54 00:03:48,595 --> 00:03:51,355 Speaker 1: did not even carry any of it live. It is 55 00:03:51,475 --> 00:03:53,995 Speaker 1: too bad because there are new developments now in the 56 00:03:54,075 --> 00:03:57,555 Speaker 1: Charlie McGonagall case. The man at the heart of the 57 00:03:57,675 --> 00:04:02,155 Speaker 1: FBI New York office, which actually did weaponize against Hillary 58 00:04:02,195 --> 00:04:04,435 Speaker 1: Clinton in two thousand sixteen and actually did throw the 59 00:04:04,435 --> 00:04:07,515 Speaker 1: ALLI action to Trump or at least towards him, and 60 00:04:07,555 --> 00:04:10,315 Speaker 1: who is now under arrest for going from investigating a 61 00:04:10,395 --> 00:04:14,355 Speaker 1: Trump linked Russian oligarch to working for that Trump linked 62 00:04:14,395 --> 00:04:19,715 Speaker 1: Russian oligarch and any weaponization subcommittee should be investigating mcdonagall 63 00:04:19,835 --> 00:04:23,355 Speaker 1: and the FBI New York Office. Those new details in 64 00:04:23,395 --> 00:04:27,555 Speaker 1: a moment, But first I want you to savor what 65 00:04:27,675 --> 00:04:31,875 Speaker 1: happened to Chairman Jim Jordan yesterday. God knows I want 66 00:04:31,915 --> 00:04:35,075 Speaker 1: to savor it some more. It is one thing to be, 67 00:04:35,155 --> 00:04:39,075 Speaker 1: as Shakespeare wrote, hoist with your own petard. It is 68 00:04:39,155 --> 00:04:43,715 Speaker 1: quite another to get hoisted, then rehoisted, and then re rehoisted. 69 00:04:44,395 --> 00:04:49,755 Speaker 1: If ex agent Thomas I knew that pncouver personally Baker 70 00:04:50,315 --> 00:04:54,195 Speaker 1: was mailed home by Dan Goldman, then Jonathan Turley wants 71 00:04:54,195 --> 00:04:58,595 Speaker 1: a thoughtful and reliable contributor countdown on TV went home 72 00:04:58,635 --> 00:05:02,475 Speaker 1: in a saucer into which he had been ladled by 73 00:05:02,555 --> 00:05:08,515 Speaker 1: Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schult. First, Turley, he has gone so 74 00:05:08,755 --> 00:05:11,195 Speaker 1: radically right wing in the last couple of years and 75 00:05:11,315 --> 00:05:15,035 Speaker 1: so radically dumb about the law that if you told 76 00:05:15,035 --> 00:05:19,395 Speaker 1: me somebody has been blackmailing him, I would not disbelieve you. 77 00:05:19,955 --> 00:05:24,075 Speaker 1: He was positioned yesterday to testify as an expert on 78 00:05:24,155 --> 00:05:28,235 Speaker 1: Twitter and what Twitter did to the laptop story, and 79 00:05:28,315 --> 00:05:32,115 Speaker 1: to understand what Wasserman Schultz then did to him, you 80 00:05:32,155 --> 00:05:36,195 Speaker 1: have to first hear Turley and the soul selling congresswoman 81 00:05:36,235 --> 00:05:40,715 Speaker 1: at least Stephonic doing their kabuki theater bit. Isn't it 82 00:05:40,755 --> 00:05:44,195 Speaker 1: true that leading up to the election, Twitter had weekly 83 00:05:44,275 --> 00:05:47,475 Speaker 1: meetings with not just the FBI, with d o J, 84 00:05:47,835 --> 00:05:51,835 Speaker 1: with DHS, with d n I to conduct this unconstitutional 85 00:05:51,875 --> 00:05:56,475 Speaker 1: censorship by surrogate. We know that because the Twitter files? Correct? Correct? Okay, 86 00:05:56,515 --> 00:06:01,915 Speaker 1: got it? Turley is the Twitter legal expert here. Oh no, 87 00:06:02,075 --> 00:06:07,955 Speaker 1: he's not turning to you. Have you ever worked for Twitter? No? 88 00:06:08,235 --> 00:06:12,075 Speaker 1: Do you have any formal relationship with the company. No, 89 00:06:12,195 --> 00:06:14,515 Speaker 1: I just have an account. Do you have any specific 90 00:06:14,715 --> 00:06:18,915 Speaker 1: or special or unique knowledge about the inner workings of Twitter? 91 00:06:20,595 --> 00:06:22,875 Speaker 1: Nothing beyond the Twitter files and what I read in 92 00:06:22,915 --> 00:06:25,835 Speaker 1: the media. So essentially, your responses to the questions here 93 00:06:25,875 --> 00:06:29,915 Speaker 1: today were your own opinion and pure conjecture. No, I 94 00:06:29,915 --> 00:06:32,115 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. I mean they're based. I try to 95 00:06:32,115 --> 00:06:34,355 Speaker 1: base them on what we know from the Twitter files. 96 00:06:34,515 --> 00:06:37,115 Speaker 1: But you said that you don't have any specific or 97 00:06:37,195 --> 00:06:40,315 Speaker 1: unique knowledge of Twitter, but you spoke as if you did. 98 00:06:40,315 --> 00:06:44,715 Speaker 1: You were asked very specific questions about Twitter's, the way 99 00:06:44,755 --> 00:06:47,955 Speaker 1: Twitter functions, and the decision making that they that they make. 100 00:06:48,355 --> 00:06:50,715 Speaker 1: But yet you don't have any unique or special knowledge 101 00:06:50,715 --> 00:06:52,915 Speaker 1: about Twitter and have never worked for them, and so 102 00:06:52,995 --> 00:06:55,955 Speaker 1: this is only just your opinion. Would you say, as 103 00:06:55,995 --> 00:06:59,635 Speaker 1: a Twitter account user, No, I I've come to give 104 00:06:59,715 --> 00:07:02,515 Speaker 1: legal analysis based on facts are in the public domain, 105 00:07:02,595 --> 00:07:04,875 Speaker 1: and I was really referring to what the I was 106 00:07:04,915 --> 00:07:08,715 Speaker 1: asked about time. Legal analysis is another word for opinion. 107 00:07:09,835 --> 00:07:12,555 Speaker 1: I would I would think there's some distinction, but yeah, 108 00:07:12,675 --> 00:07:15,155 Speaker 1: it's all ultimately is an opinion. But I believe the 109 00:07:15,235 --> 00:07:18,035 Speaker 1: question to me was based on what the Twitter file show, 110 00:07:18,115 --> 00:07:21,835 Speaker 1: and that that was my reading of the Twitter fils, right, 111 00:07:22,235 --> 00:07:26,355 Speaker 1: And again that's another way of describing your opinion being offered, 112 00:07:26,595 --> 00:07:30,235 Speaker 1: which was represented as unique and special facts which you 113 00:07:30,275 --> 00:07:34,075 Speaker 1: don't possess. Can we get some paper towels to clean 114 00:07:34,155 --> 00:07:36,875 Speaker 1: up the parts of John Turley that that Debbie Wasserman 115 00:07:36,955 --> 00:07:41,275 Speaker 1: Schultz spilled while she was liquefying him. Anybody got some 116 00:07:41,355 --> 00:07:47,275 Speaker 1: bounty the quicker pick her upper. We should never discount 117 00:07:47,275 --> 00:07:50,555 Speaker 1: the fascist rights willingness to believe anything they see on 118 00:07:50,635 --> 00:07:54,235 Speaker 1: television that agrees with what they already believe, or which 119 00:07:54,235 --> 00:07:58,675 Speaker 1: they must convince themselves of. But still some of them, 120 00:07:58,715 --> 00:08:01,515 Speaker 1: at least ten or twelve had to have heard witnessed 121 00:08:01,635 --> 00:08:06,355 Speaker 1: Chuck Grassley, that Chuck A. Slee's senator from Iowa. You 122 00:08:06,355 --> 00:08:09,435 Speaker 1: know how old he is. He's tattered in six to hear. 123 00:08:09,475 --> 00:08:13,555 Speaker 1: Grassly explained to the committee that in the real collusion 124 00:08:13,635 --> 00:08:18,915 Speaker 1: with Russia was committed by Hillary Clinton, who Grassly says, 125 00:08:19,435 --> 00:08:25,395 Speaker 1: connived with Putin to get herself defeated. We all know 126 00:08:25,675 --> 00:08:29,435 Speaker 1: now that it was a Democratic National Committee along with 127 00:08:29,475 --> 00:08:33,795 Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign, who concluded with the Rasians. They used 128 00:08:33,795 --> 00:08:40,195 Speaker 1: a former Racan spy, Fusion GPS and law firm to 129 00:08:40,315 --> 00:08:45,515 Speaker 1: create a fake dossier and then tried to cover it up. Oh, Senator, 130 00:08:45,595 --> 00:08:48,275 Speaker 1: if only we could find that Russian spy. You mentioned 131 00:08:48,315 --> 00:08:51,795 Speaker 1: that Mr Fusion GPS felt, I bet he could reveal 132 00:08:51,875 --> 00:08:55,595 Speaker 1: the whole saga. At least there was somebody in there 133 00:08:55,715 --> 00:08:59,955 Speaker 1: older than the agent Baker. One other moment that does 134 00:08:59,995 --> 00:09:04,955 Speaker 1: not translate to audio TULSEI Gabbard, having wiped out as 135 00:09:04,995 --> 00:09:08,115 Speaker 1: a Democrat and now trying to become a Republican, was 136 00:09:08,235 --> 00:09:13,875 Speaker 1: called in as an expert on skunk stripes in your 137 00:09:13,915 --> 00:09:18,515 Speaker 1: hair and the deep state. I don't know. As she talked, 138 00:09:18,995 --> 00:09:25,675 Speaker 1: Republican Congressman Chris Stewart was shown dozing off literally and 139 00:09:25,835 --> 00:09:28,395 Speaker 1: just one more please before we get to McGonagall and 140 00:09:28,475 --> 00:09:32,115 Speaker 1: Derrick Posca and Albania. Leave it to Jamie Raskin to 141 00:09:32,195 --> 00:09:36,155 Speaker 1: note that they actually could be investigating the weaponization of 142 00:09:36,195 --> 00:09:41,115 Speaker 1: the government against democracy if the Republicans had not created 143 00:09:41,115 --> 00:09:44,915 Speaker 1: a subcommittee to actually pretend there was weaponization of the 144 00:09:44,955 --> 00:09:50,875 Speaker 1: government against just Republicans. Consider the John Durham Investigation if 145 00:09:50,875 --> 00:09:54,515 Speaker 1: they're urging the Republicans, including the good chairman. The John 146 00:09:54,555 --> 00:09:57,355 Speaker 1: Durham Special Council Investigation was set up in two thousand 147 00:09:57,435 --> 00:10:01,355 Speaker 1: nineteen by bar to try to find wrongdoing by intelligence 148 00:10:01,435 --> 00:10:04,315 Speaker 1: or law enforcement agencies in the origins of the Mueller 149 00:10:04,315 --> 00:10:06,915 Speaker 1: Investor stigation. And we've heard some of the murmurings about 150 00:10:06,915 --> 00:10:10,675 Speaker 1: this today. After four years and millions of dollars spent, 151 00:10:10,995 --> 00:10:15,115 Speaker 1: the Durham Investigation closed as a total flop without on 152 00:10:15,195 --> 00:10:19,435 Speaker 1: earthing anything like the deep state conspiracy that Republicans have 153 00:10:19,515 --> 00:10:23,075 Speaker 1: been denouncing around here for years. It couldn't find anything 154 00:10:23,355 --> 00:10:27,075 Speaker 1: of substance to it. Yet Bar and Durham kept pressing 155 00:10:27,075 --> 00:10:30,755 Speaker 1: in clearly abusive ways. I hope your subcommittee will investigate 156 00:10:31,195 --> 00:10:35,035 Speaker 1: Durham and Bar at an investigation of the real crime, 157 00:10:35,115 --> 00:10:38,395 Speaker 1: what the FBI did in two thousand sixteen, and then 158 00:10:38,435 --> 00:10:41,275 Speaker 1: what Bar did to cover that up in two thousand nineteen, 159 00:10:41,595 --> 00:10:46,275 Speaker 1: and finally we come back to Champagne Charlie McGonagall. Neither 160 00:10:46,395 --> 00:10:49,595 Speaker 1: of these new mcdonagall stories are Bulletin's exactly, but each 161 00:10:49,835 --> 00:10:54,035 Speaker 1: is new, and each underscores that background noise about mcdonagall's arrest, 162 00:10:54,155 --> 00:10:57,915 Speaker 1: that a there are still McGonagall details out there. To 163 00:10:57,995 --> 00:11:01,595 Speaker 1: find maybe a lot of them and be there is 164 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:04,835 Speaker 1: merit to the extrapolation that he was in retire him 165 00:11:04,995 --> 00:11:08,675 Speaker 1: working for Oleg Deri Posca in two and in retirement 166 00:11:08,675 --> 00:11:11,995 Speaker 1: working for Oleg Deri Posca in and while still in 167 00:11:12,035 --> 00:11:14,715 Speaker 1: the FBI trying to get an internship for the daughter 168 00:11:14,835 --> 00:11:17,435 Speaker 1: of an employee of Oldleg Deri Posca in two thousand 169 00:11:17,475 --> 00:11:20,635 Speaker 1: and eighteen. There is every reason to ask if he 170 00:11:20,835 --> 00:11:23,635 Speaker 1: was already working with or four Oldleg Derrick Posca in 171 00:11:23,635 --> 00:11:27,915 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. Two thousand sixteen, when Paul Manafort was 172 00:11:27,995 --> 00:11:34,195 Speaker 1: Trump's Gratis campaign manager and Manafort owed Oleg Deri Posca money, 173 00:11:34,235 --> 00:11:37,795 Speaker 1: and Manafort was briefing Oleg Derri Posca on the Trump campaign, 174 00:11:38,275 --> 00:11:41,435 Speaker 1: and mcdonaghall was supposed to be investigating Derrick Posca for 175 00:11:41,475 --> 00:11:47,235 Speaker 1: the FBI. Business Insiders new headline is the FBI's mcdonnagle 176 00:11:47,395 --> 00:11:51,075 Speaker 1: Labyrinth and its stories starts with mcgonagall's girlfriend in New 177 00:11:51,155 --> 00:11:54,035 Speaker 1: York while he was still married in Maryland, explaining that 178 00:11:54,115 --> 00:11:56,915 Speaker 1: one day he told her the FBI had ordered everybody 179 00:11:56,915 --> 00:12:00,195 Speaker 1: to delete What's App from their phones, so he bought 180 00:12:00,195 --> 00:12:03,715 Speaker 1: a second phone on which to use What's App. Well, 181 00:12:03,715 --> 00:12:06,035 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like my but she also reveals she 182 00:12:06,115 --> 00:12:10,795 Speaker 1: saw McGonagall take sealed envelopes from Sergey Shastakov, former Russian 183 00:12:10,795 --> 00:12:14,755 Speaker 1: diplomat and Derrick Posca agent, usually at dinner, sometimes maybe 184 00:12:14,795 --> 00:12:17,675 Speaker 1: at a hockey game. The article also quotes a lot 185 00:12:17,715 --> 00:12:20,675 Speaker 1: of x FBI rs who are most amazed in all 186 00:12:20,715 --> 00:12:24,835 Speaker 1: of this that McGonagall is accused of traveling internationally to 187 00:12:24,875 --> 00:12:29,235 Speaker 1: meet Derrick Posca in London and in Vienna, when McGonagall 188 00:12:29,315 --> 00:12:32,635 Speaker 1: was in essence a desk man in charge of everything 189 00:12:32,755 --> 00:12:35,315 Speaker 1: from what they were finding to the schedules of one 190 00:12:35,395 --> 00:12:39,075 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty FBI agents back in New York. There's 191 00:12:39,115 --> 00:12:41,475 Speaker 1: also a lot of hinting around the edges that, besides 192 00:12:41,515 --> 00:12:46,195 Speaker 1: the possibility of bribery or espionage by McGonagall, the lady 193 00:12:46,195 --> 00:12:49,115 Speaker 1: on the side might be really important because a lot 194 00:12:49,155 --> 00:12:53,195 Speaker 1: of the international spy game revolves around blackmailing agents because 195 00:12:53,195 --> 00:12:57,755 Speaker 1: you have trapped them with women or they have trapped themselves. 196 00:12:57,795 --> 00:13:01,235 Speaker 1: And maybe most interesting of all is the increasing fuzziness 197 00:13:01,395 --> 00:13:06,315 Speaker 1: of the timeline when did McGonagall start working for Derrick Posca. 198 00:13:06,555 --> 00:13:10,075 Speaker 1: Business Insider notes that the indictment refers to mcgonagall's traveled 199 00:13:10,075 --> 00:13:13,235 Speaker 1: to meet Derrick Posca, London and Vienna, but does not 200 00:13:13,355 --> 00:13:18,595 Speaker 1: say when. To that end, the websites Mattathias Schwartz quotes 201 00:13:18,635 --> 00:13:22,115 Speaker 1: the girlfriend Alison Guerrero as saying she wrote an angry 202 00:13:22,155 --> 00:13:25,715 Speaker 1: email to mcgonagall's boss in two thousand nineteen, Schwartz adding 203 00:13:25,835 --> 00:13:29,395 Speaker 1: quote Three sources familiar with the investigation told Insider that 204 00:13:29,435 --> 00:13:33,515 Speaker 1: the Bureau had already been looking into McGonagall by November 205 00:13:33,555 --> 00:13:39,035 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. Meantime, the ever underrated David Corn of 206 00:13:39,075 --> 00:13:43,395 Speaker 1: Mother Jones produced some extraordinarily valuable context. The McGonagall arrest 207 00:13:43,515 --> 00:13:47,555 Speaker 1: is complicated and confusing because the FBI and the d 208 00:13:47,635 --> 00:13:52,195 Speaker 1: o J presented it as two different separate crimes. A 209 00:13:52,555 --> 00:13:55,795 Speaker 1: his relationship with Deri Posca the Russian crime, and be 210 00:13:56,035 --> 00:13:58,515 Speaker 1: taking money while he was still at the FBI from 211 00:13:58,635 --> 00:14:01,635 Speaker 1: Albanians trying to get American support for the opposition party 212 00:14:01,675 --> 00:14:08,315 Speaker 1: in Albania's internal politics the Albanian crime. Taken as separate stories, 213 00:14:08,595 --> 00:14:13,155 Speaker 1: these might tend to portray McGonagall, maybe just subconsciously, as 214 00:14:13,195 --> 00:14:17,035 Speaker 1: just a crook who did whatever he could for whomever 215 00:14:17,075 --> 00:14:21,475 Speaker 1: he could find for money. David Corn notes that, in fact, 216 00:14:21,515 --> 00:14:25,555 Speaker 1: the story about an FBI executive meddling in Albanian politics 217 00:14:25,875 --> 00:14:29,475 Speaker 1: is actually the story of an FBI executive meddling in 218 00:14:29,995 --> 00:14:34,995 Speaker 1: Russian meddling in Albanian politics. At the time, the Russians 219 00:14:34,995 --> 00:14:40,075 Speaker 1: were trying to unseat the pro western, anti Putent Albanian 220 00:14:40,155 --> 00:14:43,315 Speaker 1: prime minister and trying to replace him with a guy 221 00:14:44,235 --> 00:15:06,555 Speaker 1: whose campaign slogan was make Albania great Again. Why don't 222 00:15:06,555 --> 00:15:09,875 Speaker 1: I get the feeling there's more to that story still ahead. 223 00:15:09,955 --> 00:15:12,715 Speaker 1: Rick Scott and Ron Johnson go on defense against the 224 00:15:12,795 --> 00:15:16,275 Speaker 1: you know fact that each of them loudly proposed cutting 225 00:15:16,275 --> 00:15:19,675 Speaker 1: and gutting and privatizing social Security. They evidently do not 226 00:15:19,795 --> 00:15:24,355 Speaker 1: know how to play defense. Senator Johnson merely went on 227 00:15:24,475 --> 00:15:28,075 Speaker 1: radio and repeated his dream of privatizing social Security, and 228 00:15:28,195 --> 00:15:30,595 Speaker 1: Senator Scott went on CNN and said he was innocent 229 00:15:30,635 --> 00:15:34,235 Speaker 1: of these charges because Jake Tapper, Jake Tapper, Jake Tapper, 230 00:15:34,315 --> 00:15:36,875 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper. I'm not kidding that basically was his answer. 231 00:15:37,595 --> 00:15:41,755 Speaker 1: Another George Santos dog scandal, another Elon Musk Twitter scandal, 232 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:44,875 Speaker 1: and Hunter Biden's lawyer has now sent out a dozen 233 00:15:44,955 --> 00:15:49,035 Speaker 1: letters to a dozen Conservatives telling them to preserve all documents. 234 00:15:49,395 --> 00:15:53,955 Speaker 1: It is the proverbial warning, we may sue you. One 235 00:15:53,955 --> 00:15:57,195 Speaker 1: of the recipients is Rudy Giuliani. I will tell you 236 00:15:57,235 --> 00:16:00,115 Speaker 1: the all new story of the day I realized Rudy 237 00:16:00,115 --> 00:16:03,035 Speaker 1: Giuliani was, in fact nothing more than a functioning idiot. 238 00:16:03,395 --> 00:16:08,555 Speaker 1: The story dates to the year nineteen. That's next. This 239 00:16:08,755 --> 00:16:22,595 Speaker 1: is countdown. This is countdown with Keith Olberman postscripts to 240 00:16:22,635 --> 00:16:25,955 Speaker 1: the news, some headlines, some updates, some snarks, some prediction, 241 00:16:25,995 --> 00:16:29,595 Speaker 1: state line Washington. Hunter Biden's attorney sends out more lawyer 242 00:16:29,715 --> 00:16:33,475 Speaker 1: letters the presidential son and attorney Abby Lowell continuing with 243 00:16:33,555 --> 00:16:36,315 Speaker 1: the best defense is a good offense approach. They have 244 00:16:36,395 --> 00:16:40,235 Speaker 1: demanded the recipients preserve and retain all records and documents 245 00:16:40,555 --> 00:16:43,475 Speaker 1: pertaining to Hunter Biden. This is the so called litigation 246 00:16:43,555 --> 00:16:47,075 Speaker 1: hold letter. It went to Steve Bannon and Roger Stone 247 00:16:47,195 --> 00:16:51,395 Speaker 1: and other Trump aids, and among others, Rudy Giuliani that 248 00:16:51,515 --> 00:16:53,795 Speaker 1: stay with me for an all new things I've promised 249 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:56,195 Speaker 1: not to tell about how I knew Giuliani was like 250 00:16:56,315 --> 00:17:03,035 Speaker 1: this in n also receiving this letter, John Paul mac Isaac, 251 00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:05,995 Speaker 1: the computer to repair airman who just happened to keep 252 00:17:05,995 --> 00:17:08,555 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop and just happened to make a copy of 253 00:17:08,555 --> 00:17:11,315 Speaker 1: its hard drive, and just happened to give a copy 254 00:17:11,315 --> 00:17:14,675 Speaker 1: of that hard drive to Giuliani. This goober mac Isaac 255 00:17:14,755 --> 00:17:17,475 Speaker 1: promptly tweeted, if anything happens to me in the next 256 00:17:17,515 --> 00:17:21,955 Speaker 1: few weeks, the Bidens are responsible if anything happens to him. 257 00:17:22,235 --> 00:17:25,875 Speaker 1: Have you seen this guy? No eyebrows and his eyes 258 00:17:26,035 --> 00:17:29,995 Speaker 1: have been gradually migrating to opposite signs of his head. 259 00:17:30,515 --> 00:17:33,515 Speaker 1: What else is going to happen to him? Dateline Bird 260 00:17:33,635 --> 00:17:38,675 Speaker 1: in Hand, Pennsylvania. Politico reporting another George Santos dog scandal 261 00:17:38,995 --> 00:17:41,835 Speaker 1: that in two thousand seventeen, he was charged with theft. 262 00:17:42,315 --> 00:17:46,275 Speaker 1: Fifteen thousand, one five dollars in checks were made out 263 00:17:46,595 --> 00:17:52,515 Speaker 1: on his account to dog breeders in Pennsylvania. Then, contemporaneously, 264 00:17:52,595 --> 00:17:55,715 Speaker 1: Santos held a dog adoption event in Staten Island, New York, 265 00:17:55,795 --> 00:17:58,555 Speaker 1: charging fees of up to four hundred dollars in adoption 266 00:17:58,675 --> 00:18:03,075 Speaker 1: per dog. Three years later, NYPD officers woke Santos at 267 00:18:03,075 --> 00:18:04,635 Speaker 1: his home in the middle of the night with an 268 00:18:04,675 --> 00:18:07,995 Speaker 1: extradition warrant to Pennsylvania. The checks at all bounced. He 269 00:18:08,075 --> 00:18:11,595 Speaker 1: was being charged with theft. He and that attorney managed 270 00:18:11,635 --> 00:18:14,955 Speaker 1: to convince Pennsylvania authorities that as soon as Santos had 271 00:18:14,995 --> 00:18:17,515 Speaker 1: opened the account on which the checks to the dog 272 00:18:17,555 --> 00:18:21,595 Speaker 1: breeders had been written, somebody stole his check book, somebody 273 00:18:21,635 --> 00:18:24,955 Speaker 1: he thought he might have known, so he quote canceled 274 00:18:24,995 --> 00:18:28,555 Speaker 1: the checkbook. Santos then went to Pennsylvania, and, according to 275 00:18:28,595 --> 00:18:32,755 Speaker 1: his lawyer, Santos talked authorities into dropping the charges. She 276 00:18:32,875 --> 00:18:36,035 Speaker 1: also says Santos told them he worked for the Securities 277 00:18:36,075 --> 00:18:39,515 Speaker 1: and Exchange Commission. I'm waiting for one of these Santos 278 00:18:39,515 --> 00:18:42,075 Speaker 1: stories to end up with him explaining himself away by 279 00:18:42,115 --> 00:18:46,675 Speaker 1: claiming he is actually a talking dog. By the way, 280 00:18:46,715 --> 00:18:50,075 Speaker 1: bird in Hand Pennsylvania, where one of these dog breeding 281 00:18:50,115 --> 00:18:55,315 Speaker 1: people is actually located, is a real place. Bird in Hand, Pennsylvania. 282 00:18:55,555 --> 00:18:59,635 Speaker 1: It's near Lancaster. Bird in Hand, Pennsylvania is actually four 283 00:18:59,675 --> 00:19:05,915 Speaker 1: miles five minutes away from Intercourse, Pennsylvania. And lastly, if 284 00:19:05,955 --> 00:19:08,675 Speaker 1: you're from the sixties or seventies, or you know somebody 285 00:19:08,715 --> 00:19:12,795 Speaker 1: who is, If you or they seem a little sad today, 286 00:19:12,835 --> 00:19:17,115 Speaker 1: maybe inexplicably sad, it's because Bert Backrack has died. Any 287 00:19:17,235 --> 00:19:21,315 Speaker 1: era has multiple soundtracks, but the music for the lingering 288 00:19:21,515 --> 00:19:24,915 Speaker 1: post war optimism. Let's build more freeways, Let's go to 289 00:19:24,915 --> 00:19:27,555 Speaker 1: the moon, It's all getting better. That was written by 290 00:19:27,595 --> 00:19:31,275 Speaker 1: Bert Backrack and people he influenced. His music was not 291 00:19:31,435 --> 00:19:34,675 Speaker 1: in every movie in those decades. It only seems that way. 292 00:19:34,955 --> 00:19:37,915 Speaker 1: He did not work with every popular singer, but he 293 00:19:37,955 --> 00:19:40,915 Speaker 1: did with everybody from Dion Warwick to Tom Jones to 294 00:19:40,995 --> 00:19:44,715 Speaker 1: the Carpenters to Patti LaBelle, to Rod Stewart to Elvis Costello. 295 00:19:45,075 --> 00:19:48,035 Speaker 1: He won two Oscars for Best Song, Arthur's Theme with 296 00:19:48,155 --> 00:19:51,075 Speaker 1: Christopher Cross and rain Drops Keep Falling on My Head 297 00:19:51,075 --> 00:19:53,995 Speaker 1: with B. J. Thomas from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance 298 00:19:54,115 --> 00:20:39,715 Speaker 1: Kid ms faust out of the daily roundup of the miscreants, 299 00:20:39,755 --> 00:20:42,875 Speaker 1: morons and done in Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's 300 00:20:42,915 --> 00:20:48,075 Speaker 1: worst persons in the world, the Bronze good Old Elon 301 00:20:48,355 --> 00:20:53,755 Speaker 1: Musk platformer reporting and on Tuesday, Musk summoned an emergency 302 00:20:53,835 --> 00:20:58,875 Speaker 1: meeting of engineers and advisers to address the burning problem 303 00:20:58,995 --> 00:21:04,435 Speaker 1: on the Twitter website. This is ridiculous, Musk said, per 304 00:21:04,675 --> 00:21:08,435 Speaker 1: platformers sources, I have more than one million followers and 305 00:21:08,475 --> 00:21:13,275 Speaker 1: I'm only getting tens of thousands of impressions. His employees 306 00:21:13,315 --> 00:21:17,955 Speaker 1: showed the internal data indicating that last April Musk's popularity 307 00:21:18,075 --> 00:21:21,435 Speaker 1: in search rankings topped out peaked at the score of 308 00:21:21,595 --> 00:21:25,875 Speaker 1: one hundred. His current score is nine. The engineers said 309 00:21:25,875 --> 00:21:28,235 Speaker 1: they had already investigated to see if something technical or 310 00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:31,075 Speaker 1: in the algorithms had been artificially suppressing his tweets. The 311 00:21:31,115 --> 00:21:35,115 Speaker 1: answer was no, It was just that, you know, Twitter 312 00:21:35,235 --> 00:21:38,875 Speaker 1: users were kind of tired of his act. His response, 313 00:21:39,155 --> 00:21:42,715 Speaker 1: you'll fired and you'll filed. By the way, it is 314 00:21:42,715 --> 00:21:45,955 Speaker 1: now fifty three days since the pole Musk posted closed 315 00:21:45,955 --> 00:21:48,755 Speaker 1: and users voted fifty seven and a half percent to 316 00:21:48,995 --> 00:21:51,355 Speaker 1: forty two and a half percent that yes, he should 317 00:21:51,395 --> 00:21:57,675 Speaker 1: step down as CEO. Go in God's name go the 318 00:21:57,755 --> 00:22:00,515 Speaker 1: runner up, Senator Ron Johnson. After three days of arguing 319 00:22:00,515 --> 00:22:03,475 Speaker 1: whether or not he advocates or has advocated cutting or 320 00:22:03,515 --> 00:22:08,235 Speaker 1: gutting Social Security, Johnson has settled it. Joe Biden was right. 321 00:22:09,195 --> 00:22:11,835 Speaker 1: Johnson went on the radio to say that social Security 322 00:22:11,875 --> 00:22:15,155 Speaker 1: is a quote legal Ponzi scheme which should have been 323 00:22:15,195 --> 00:22:18,795 Speaker 1: privatized in two thousand ten. By the way, you know how, 324 00:22:18,875 --> 00:22:22,195 Speaker 1: I they're wrong when they call Ron Johnson or Russian asset, 325 00:22:22,795 --> 00:22:25,475 Speaker 1: because who in the world would think he's an asset 326 00:22:26,635 --> 00:22:30,115 Speaker 1: but the winners. Senator Rick Scott same story. Last night 327 00:22:30,115 --> 00:22:33,915 Speaker 1: on a Kentucky radio show, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell 328 00:22:34,275 --> 00:22:37,755 Speaker 1: referred to Scott's twelve point plan to Rescue America, which 329 00:22:37,755 --> 00:22:40,795 Speaker 1: calls for the sunsetting of all federal legislation every five years, 330 00:22:40,955 --> 00:22:45,715 Speaker 1: including sunsetting social Security every five years. Quoting McConnell, this 331 00:22:45,835 --> 00:22:48,315 Speaker 1: is a bad idea. I think it will be a 332 00:22:48,395 --> 00:22:51,315 Speaker 1: challenge for him Rick Scott to deal with this in 333 00:22:51,395 --> 00:22:53,715 Speaker 1: his own re election in Florida, a state with more 334 00:22:53,755 --> 00:22:57,595 Speaker 1: elderly people than any other state in America. Well, never 335 00:22:57,635 --> 00:23:01,315 Speaker 1: mind re election Voldemort. Scott couldn't deal with an interview 336 00:23:01,395 --> 00:23:04,555 Speaker 1: on CNN on this topic to edit it down to 337 00:23:04,755 --> 00:23:09,435 Speaker 1: the highlights over a four minute span. Quote. Okay, he said, 338 00:23:09,475 --> 00:23:12,875 Speaker 1: let me just read you something Jake Tapper said. Jake 339 00:23:12,915 --> 00:23:16,355 Speaker 1: Tapper said, what about what Jake Tapper said? What Jake 340 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:19,675 Speaker 1: Tapper said? And Jake Tapper said, have you talked to 341 00:23:19,755 --> 00:23:22,355 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper? Did the same fact checkers? Look at what 342 00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:26,675 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper said? Then why did Jake Tapper say it? Unquote? 343 00:23:28,115 --> 00:23:30,995 Speaker 1: I don't know if if I'm Jake Tapper and Rick 344 00:23:31,075 --> 00:23:35,115 Speaker 1: Scott used my name eight times to defend himself. I 345 00:23:35,155 --> 00:23:38,555 Speaker 1: am quitting the news business and moving to a Tibetan 346 00:23:38,635 --> 00:23:44,075 Speaker 1: monastery and hoping the universe forgives me, Senator Rick, when 347 00:23:44,115 --> 00:23:45,995 Speaker 1: I grow up, I want to be Jake Tapper. Does 348 00:23:46,075 --> 00:23:48,395 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper think I'm cool? Who wou might pretend life? 349 00:23:48,435 --> 00:23:55,915 Speaker 1: I'm Jake Tapper Scott two days worst first send and 350 00:23:56,235 --> 00:24:10,635 Speaker 1: the world still ahead on countdown. The only person who 351 00:24:10,715 --> 00:24:12,795 Speaker 1: may end up in legal trouble after two and a 352 00:24:12,875 --> 00:24:16,595 Speaker 1: half years of the Hunter Biden laptop could very well 353 00:24:16,635 --> 00:24:21,075 Speaker 1: be Rudy Giuliani. It continues his epic descent, which began 354 00:24:21,155 --> 00:24:23,355 Speaker 1: not in two thousand sixteen, not in two thousand seven, 355 00:24:23,635 --> 00:24:27,355 Speaker 1: not even after nine eleven. I first met the real, clueless, 356 00:24:27,595 --> 00:24:31,835 Speaker 1: useless Rudy nearly thirty years ago, coming up next first. 357 00:24:31,835 --> 00:24:33,755 Speaker 1: In each edition of Countdown, we feature a dog in 358 00:24:33,755 --> 00:24:37,035 Speaker 1: need you can help. Every dog has its day to 359 00:24:37,195 --> 00:24:41,195 Speaker 1: Miami and Snaggle. He is fifteen pounds. He's a handsome 360 00:24:41,235 --> 00:24:44,355 Speaker 1: sheet sue mix, gray and white and black and curly, 361 00:24:44,915 --> 00:24:47,675 Speaker 1: and he lived in the woods by himself for four 362 00:24:47,715 --> 00:24:50,475 Speaker 1: of his five years. They found him in December. He 363 00:24:50,515 --> 00:24:52,195 Speaker 1: had to be at the vet for weeks before he 364 00:24:52,235 --> 00:24:55,075 Speaker 1: was healthy enough to go to a foster home. Teeth pulled, 365 00:24:55,115 --> 00:24:59,435 Speaker 1: infections cured. He's now fine. Paw Patrol, Animal Rescue and 366 00:24:59,475 --> 00:25:01,715 Speaker 1: Sanctuary could use some help with his bills, but right 367 00:25:01,755 --> 00:25:04,795 Speaker 1: now their focus is finding him a home because as 368 00:25:04,835 --> 00:25:06,835 Speaker 1: he lived as a feral dog, there are all kinds 369 00:25:06,835 --> 00:25:09,195 Speaker 1: of restrictions on fences and other dogs. But if you're 370 00:25:09,195 --> 00:25:11,715 Speaker 1: near Miami, you might be right for him. You can 371 00:25:11,715 --> 00:25:16,555 Speaker 1: find Snaggle on the Cuddly website or on my Twitter feed. Donate, retweet, 372 00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:20,275 Speaker 1: or apply to adopt. I thank you and Snaggles thank 373 00:25:20,315 --> 00:25:32,595 Speaker 1: you through the number one story on the countdown in 374 00:25:32,715 --> 00:25:35,875 Speaker 1: my favorite topic, me and things I've promised not to tell. 375 00:25:36,915 --> 00:25:41,835 Speaker 1: I hear this question about Rudy Giuliani a lot. When 376 00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:45,915 Speaker 1: did his life go so horribly horribly wrong? Here was 377 00:25:45,955 --> 00:25:50,675 Speaker 1: America's mayor the rock in the hours of crisis after 378 00:25:50,755 --> 00:25:54,715 Speaker 1: nine eleven. What is he now? After literally years of 379 00:25:54,755 --> 00:25:57,515 Speaker 1: trying to sell the Hunter Biden laptop story? Who does 380 00:25:57,555 --> 00:26:04,035 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop story bite him? Four seasons gardening, 381 00:26:04,835 --> 00:26:08,795 Speaker 1: the mascara running down his face, gasseous emissions at phony 382 00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:15,035 Speaker 1: election hearings, the Sasha Baron Cohen film. I mean, even 383 00:26:15,195 --> 00:26:18,275 Speaker 1: back then, I thought it was nuts that people actually 384 00:26:18,275 --> 00:26:20,875 Speaker 1: thought Rudy Giuliani was the front runner for the two 385 00:26:20,915 --> 00:26:24,315 Speaker 1: thousand and eight Republican presidential nomination. What he was widely 386 00:26:24,395 --> 00:26:27,355 Speaker 1: held to be just that in two thousand six and 387 00:26:27,395 --> 00:26:32,075 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, And by the time it happened, he 388 00:26:32,195 --> 00:26:34,955 Speaker 1: was already on his way to spending millions of dollars 389 00:26:34,995 --> 00:26:39,475 Speaker 1: to finish last. But it was the final nail in 390 00:26:39,555 --> 00:26:42,875 Speaker 1: the coffin in which he still lives. At a Democratic 391 00:26:42,915 --> 00:26:46,315 Speaker 1: debate in two thousand seven October before the Field shook 392 00:26:46,315 --> 00:26:49,355 Speaker 1: out everybody but Obama and Hillary. One of the other 393 00:26:49,435 --> 00:26:53,875 Speaker 1: candidates was excoriating the Republicans and their exploitation of terrorism 394 00:26:53,995 --> 00:26:56,875 Speaker 1: and the al Qaeda attacks, and that other candidates said 395 00:26:56,875 --> 00:27:00,675 Speaker 1: of Giuliani, quote, there's only three things he mentions in 396 00:27:00,675 --> 00:27:05,515 Speaker 1: a sentence, A noun, a verb, and nine eleven. The 397 00:27:05,675 --> 00:27:10,275 Speaker 1: candidate was Joe Biden. The phrase a noun, a verb 398 00:27:10,355 --> 00:27:14,515 Speaker 1: and nine eleven ended Rudy Giuliani's career, and Giuliani's dislike 399 00:27:14,555 --> 00:27:18,715 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden, many decades old, turned to hatred at 400 00:27:18,755 --> 00:27:21,715 Speaker 1: that exact moment, which is why we got to where 401 00:27:21,755 --> 00:27:25,475 Speaker 1: we got to in two thousand and twenty. That was 402 00:27:25,515 --> 00:27:27,915 Speaker 1: also the exact moment at which any hopes Julie Hanny 403 00:27:27,995 --> 00:27:33,155 Speaker 1: and of being elected anything anywhere ever again vanished. But 404 00:27:34,315 --> 00:27:36,595 Speaker 1: it was clear to me as far back as September 405 00:27:36,635 --> 00:27:39,075 Speaker 1: two thousand and one. That's sadly, what we saw at 406 00:27:39,115 --> 00:27:41,715 Speaker 1: that time was a bad man having a few good 407 00:27:41,795 --> 00:27:45,475 Speaker 1: days before that month was out. Giuliani's response to the 408 00:27:45,515 --> 00:27:50,755 Speaker 1: attack on democracy was to himself attack democracy, to propose 409 00:27:50,835 --> 00:27:53,995 Speaker 1: that the November election to choose his successor to be 410 00:27:54,115 --> 00:27:57,475 Speaker 1: Mayor of New York should be postponed, or that at 411 00:27:57,555 --> 00:28:00,435 Speaker 1: least he should stay on for a few months as 412 00:28:00,595 --> 00:28:06,235 Speaker 1: co mayor because he was irreplaceable. There had always been 413 00:28:06,275 --> 00:28:09,395 Speaker 1: more subtle hints that Giuliani was never a good man, 414 00:28:09,555 --> 00:28:13,075 Speaker 1: just a slightly smarter one, a more devious one. The 415 00:28:13,195 --> 00:28:17,675 Speaker 1: venomous Ruddy, the scheming Rudy, the a moral Rudy, the 416 00:28:17,755 --> 00:28:21,275 Speaker 1: Rudy with a bad song in his heart, leaked out 417 00:28:21,395 --> 00:28:24,235 Speaker 1: from time to time, and often inside the world of sports, 418 00:28:24,275 --> 00:28:28,075 Speaker 1: which is where I met him. You will remember, Rudy 419 00:28:28,075 --> 00:28:32,235 Speaker 1: Giuliani was a professional New York Yankees fan. He always 420 00:28:32,235 --> 00:28:35,755 Speaker 1: went to the games for free, mind you, dugout seats 421 00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:40,155 Speaker 1: for himself, his wife, his other wife, his next wife, 422 00:28:40,595 --> 00:28:44,075 Speaker 1: the kids, the friends. When I still had friends at 423 00:28:44,115 --> 00:28:47,355 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, they estimated Rudy used to cost them thousands 424 00:28:47,355 --> 00:28:51,195 Speaker 1: of dollars every time he showed up. He always left 425 00:28:51,315 --> 00:28:55,435 Speaker 1: via the clubhouse. He always wore a Yankees cap. He 426 00:28:55,555 --> 00:28:58,395 Speaker 1: billed himself as quote the number one Yankee fan. And 427 00:28:58,395 --> 00:29:01,235 Speaker 1: then when the Boston Red Sox were playing in the 428 00:29:01,275 --> 00:29:03,715 Speaker 1: two thousand seven World Series, when he was campaigning for 429 00:29:03,755 --> 00:29:06,715 Speaker 1: president in New Have Sure, Rudy Giuliani suddenly announced he 430 00:29:06,755 --> 00:29:10,355 Speaker 1: was rooting for the Red Sox. This is like being 431 00:29:10,435 --> 00:29:13,955 Speaker 1: a Trump fan and announcing you are rooting for democracy. 432 00:29:15,475 --> 00:29:20,195 Speaker 1: But I went back with Rudy Giuliani even longer than that. 433 00:29:21,115 --> 00:29:25,195 Speaker 1: In or ninety six, I was asked by the Deputy 434 00:29:25,235 --> 00:29:28,275 Speaker 1: Mayor of New York City, Fran Writer, and the staff 435 00:29:28,315 --> 00:29:31,915 Speaker 1: of the Baseball Hall of Fame to travel from ESPN 436 00:29:31,995 --> 00:29:34,995 Speaker 1: in Connecticut, literally to the SNePS of New York City 437 00:29:34,995 --> 00:29:38,115 Speaker 1: Hall to MC an event for what must have been 438 00:29:38,595 --> 00:29:42,155 Speaker 1: thirty five members of the Baseball Hall of Fame, maybe 439 00:29:42,195 --> 00:29:45,355 Speaker 1: the largest group of them ever assembled in one place, 440 00:29:45,675 --> 00:29:49,635 Speaker 1: in one moment in time. The Deputy Mayor approached me 441 00:29:50,155 --> 00:29:52,355 Speaker 1: and the Mayor a few steps behind her on that 442 00:29:52,515 --> 00:29:55,955 Speaker 1: gorgeous spring day. As she began to introduce us, she 443 00:29:56,035 --> 00:30:01,515 Speaker 1: realized he had begun to wander off. Rudy Ruddy. She bellowed, 444 00:30:01,795 --> 00:30:04,435 Speaker 1: he wandered back, Rudie, this is Keith Alderman for me, 445 00:30:04,475 --> 00:30:06,755 Speaker 1: asked Fan, he's going to be the m C. You 446 00:30:06,795 --> 00:30:09,795 Speaker 1: will have to introduce him after you speak. The mayor 447 00:30:09,835 --> 00:30:13,875 Speaker 1: seemed to be having trouble focusing on me or anything else. 448 00:30:14,555 --> 00:30:16,875 Speaker 1: I thought of the old joke, just just keep your 449 00:30:16,875 --> 00:30:20,795 Speaker 1: eyes on the Alderman in the middle. He extended a hand, 450 00:30:21,275 --> 00:30:26,195 Speaker 1: missed mine, then recalibrated. As we shook hands, he grunted. 451 00:30:27,195 --> 00:30:29,755 Speaker 1: The Deputy mayor now roared at him, Rudy, you have 452 00:30:29,875 --> 00:30:33,595 Speaker 1: to introduce him. His name is Keith Alberman from ESPN. 453 00:30:33,875 --> 00:30:38,195 Speaker 1: He's the m C. Giuliani turned and looked at her 454 00:30:38,675 --> 00:30:42,635 Speaker 1: like he'd never seen her before. He grunted again. Deputy 455 00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:47,275 Speaker 1: Mayor Writer now screamed at Rudy Giuliani, repeat it to me. 456 00:30:49,715 --> 00:30:52,115 Speaker 1: He looked at me, then he looked back at her, 457 00:30:52,635 --> 00:30:56,155 Speaker 1: and he said, his name is Keith Alderman from ESPN. 458 00:30:56,395 --> 00:31:00,115 Speaker 1: He's the m C. With annoyance. Writer said thank you, 459 00:31:00,955 --> 00:31:05,555 Speaker 1: and Giuliani smiled and wandered off again. And I have 460 00:31:05,755 --> 00:31:10,395 Speaker 1: seriously thought, did I just meet a body double? Is 461 00:31:10,435 --> 00:31:14,395 Speaker 1: he a replicant? You see a well built robot. This 462 00:31:14,555 --> 00:31:18,995 Speaker 1: can't be the actual mayor. Well it was. I took 463 00:31:19,035 --> 00:31:20,835 Speaker 1: my seat in the front row of the stage that 464 00:31:20,875 --> 00:31:23,195 Speaker 1: had been built atop the City Hall steps. As the 465 00:31:23,195 --> 00:31:25,475 Speaker 1: crowd gathered, and it was a good one, maybe three 466 00:31:25,555 --> 00:31:28,555 Speaker 1: or four hundred people. The President of the Hall of 467 00:31:28,595 --> 00:31:32,875 Speaker 1: Fame spoke first. The mayor sat next to me. Giuliani 468 00:31:32,955 --> 00:31:35,555 Speaker 1: leaned in at one point and whispered to me, your 469 00:31:35,635 --> 00:31:40,195 Speaker 1: name is Keith Alverman from ESPN. You're the m C 470 00:31:40,995 --> 00:31:46,795 Speaker 1: I talk, I introduce you. I said something encouraging, and 471 00:31:46,875 --> 00:31:49,355 Speaker 1: he smiled broadly, like a child who was about to 472 00:31:49,355 --> 00:31:53,835 Speaker 1: get some candy. The president of the Baseball Hall frame 473 00:31:53,835 --> 00:31:56,435 Speaker 1: wrapped up, introduced Giulianti, who bounced up to the stage 474 00:31:56,435 --> 00:31:59,875 Speaker 1: and thanked him and got his name wrong. He then 475 00:31:59,955 --> 00:32:02,595 Speaker 1: launched into a speech taking credit for the great weather 476 00:32:02,675 --> 00:32:05,435 Speaker 1: and the terrific early season performance of New York Yankees, 477 00:32:05,435 --> 00:32:08,755 Speaker 1: and the New York Mets and the Brooklyn Dodgers and 478 00:32:08,835 --> 00:32:11,075 Speaker 1: the New York Giants who had moved out of New 479 00:32:11,155 --> 00:32:13,395 Speaker 1: York in nine seven. But if he had been mayor, 480 00:32:13,435 --> 00:32:15,155 Speaker 1: then they wouldn't have moved out in New York, would 481 00:32:15,155 --> 00:32:17,155 Speaker 1: have the four teams that deserves and look at all 482 00:32:17,155 --> 00:32:18,995 Speaker 1: these great players on. Let me now turn it over 483 00:32:19,035 --> 00:32:21,475 Speaker 1: to a good friend of mine and a great baseball man. 484 00:32:21,515 --> 00:32:27,715 Speaker 1: And he looked at me and he forgot everything. Silence, 485 00:32:29,755 --> 00:32:33,155 Speaker 1: titters of laughter from the crowd, and finally he looked 486 00:32:33,195 --> 00:32:35,955 Speaker 1: the other way behind him, where the Deputy Mayor had 487 00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:39,955 Speaker 1: her head in her hands. Rudy Giuliani into a microphone 488 00:32:39,995 --> 00:32:44,355 Speaker 1: that picked up everything he said, said loudly, what's his name? 489 00:32:44,755 --> 00:32:49,235 Speaker 1: Who is he? And now the titters of laughter in 490 00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:52,115 Speaker 1: the crowd turned to a little bit louder laughter, and 491 00:32:52,195 --> 00:32:54,795 Speaker 1: some of the Hall of Fame players seated behind me 492 00:32:54,835 --> 00:32:59,235 Speaker 1: gave me pats of consolation on my shoulder. Fran Ryders screamed, 493 00:32:59,675 --> 00:33:02,955 Speaker 1: Keith Oliverman from ESPN, the m C you repeated it 494 00:33:02,995 --> 00:33:07,995 Speaker 1: to me. Juliani turned back to the crowd as if 495 00:33:07,995 --> 00:33:09,755 Speaker 1: there had been no way they could have heard or 496 00:33:09,835 --> 00:33:12,795 Speaker 1: seen any of this, and he said, so let me 497 00:33:12,835 --> 00:33:14,675 Speaker 1: turn it over to a good friend of mine and 498 00:33:14,715 --> 00:33:23,195 Speaker 1: a great baseball man, Keith Obalman our n C from ESPM. 499 00:33:26,115 --> 00:33:31,355 Speaker 1: I just sat there, more laughs, more consolations from the 500 00:33:31,395 --> 00:33:33,475 Speaker 1: players behind me. I can still hear the laugh of 501 00:33:33,835 --> 00:33:37,355 Speaker 1: the late Detroit Tiger's great alkane line rising above the others. 502 00:33:37,555 --> 00:33:41,395 Speaker 1: Al later came over to commiserate. As I thought, should 503 00:33:41,435 --> 00:33:45,355 Speaker 1: I get there and say thank you Mayor Dinkins, or 504 00:33:45,555 --> 00:33:50,715 Speaker 1: better yet, thank you Mayor LaGuardia. I then concluded, no, 505 00:33:50,915 --> 00:33:54,595 Speaker 1: I can't do that. I'm representing ESPN, I'm representing the 506 00:33:54,635 --> 00:33:57,555 Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame. As I thought that he said 507 00:33:57,595 --> 00:34:00,995 Speaker 1: it again. So now I got up and I told 508 00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:06,275 Speaker 1: the crowd sorry, I wasn't sure he meant me. So 509 00:34:06,395 --> 00:34:09,595 Speaker 1: if you are saying to yourself, what on earth happened 510 00:34:09,675 --> 00:34:12,715 Speaker 1: to Rudy Giuliani with that brown sch fitz pouring down 511 00:34:12,755 --> 00:34:15,635 Speaker 1: his face, I am saying to you he has been 512 00:34:15,675 --> 00:34:19,275 Speaker 1: this crazy for at least thirty years. You were just 513 00:34:19,475 --> 00:34:24,515 Speaker 1: lucky enough to have not previously noticed. It is all true. 514 00:34:25,235 --> 00:34:44,795 Speaker 1: Or my name ain't Keith Obleman our n c from EESPM. 515 00:34:44,835 --> 00:34:47,675 Speaker 1: I mean, my name is one thing, but to spell 516 00:34:48,035 --> 00:34:51,755 Speaker 1: ESPN wrong. Countdown has come to you from the studios 517 00:34:51,755 --> 00:34:55,755 Speaker 1: of Olberman Broadcasting, Empire World headquarters in the Sports Capsule 518 00:34:55,795 --> 00:34:59,875 Speaker 1: Building in New York. Thank you for listening. Here are 519 00:35:00,035 --> 00:35:02,595 Speaker 1: our credits. Most of the music, including the theme from 520 00:35:02,595 --> 00:35:06,155 Speaker 1: Beethoven's Ninth, was arranged Are You Stand performed by Brian 521 00:35:06,235 --> 00:35:09,155 Speaker 1: Ray and John Philip Chanelle. They are the Countdown musical directors. 522 00:35:09,355 --> 00:35:12,835 Speaker 1: Guitarist Bassed and drums by Brian Ray, all orchestration and 523 00:35:12,955 --> 00:35:15,995 Speaker 1: keyboards by John Philip Chanelle, produced by t k O Brothers. 524 00:35:16,355 --> 00:35:19,315 Speaker 1: Other Beethoven selections have it arranged and performed by No 525 00:35:19,515 --> 00:35:22,915 Speaker 1: horns allowed The sports music is the Olderman theme from 526 00:35:23,155 --> 00:35:25,555 Speaker 1: ESPN two and it was written by Mitch Warren Davis 527 00:35:25,715 --> 00:35:29,275 Speaker 1: and it appears courtesy of ESPN Inc. Musical comments by 528 00:35:29,355 --> 00:35:32,795 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. The best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer 529 00:35:32,835 --> 00:35:36,195 Speaker 1: today was Stevie Band's aunt. Everything else was pretty much 530 00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:39,075 Speaker 1: my fault. So let's countdown for this, the seven hundred 531 00:35:39,115 --> 00:35:42,595 Speaker 1: and sixty six day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup 532 00:35:42,595 --> 00:35:45,995 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. Arrest 533 00:35:46,075 --> 00:35:50,635 Speaker 1: him now while we still can. The next schedule countdown 534 00:35:50,795 --> 00:35:54,235 Speaker 1: is Monday. Until then, I'm Keith Alderman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight, 535 00:35:54,715 --> 00:36:10,235 Speaker 1: and good luck Yeah. Countdown with Keith Olderman is a 536 00:36:10,275 --> 00:36:13,835 Speaker 1: production of I heart Radio. For more podcasts from I 537 00:36:13,955 --> 00:36:17,435 Speaker 1: heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 538 00:36:17,675 --> 00:36:19,675 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.