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Speaker 1: Hey, Professional Homegirls and Men e Shagara Ebiney, And in

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Speaker 1: this week's episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with

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Speaker 1: a vampire. She shares the unique insights into the common

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Speaker 1: misconceptions of her kind, how historical media representations often failed

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Speaker 1: to humanize vampires, and she emphasized the crucial importance of

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Speaker 1: consent when it comes to their feeding habits. This conversation

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Speaker 1: was so insightful and I'm so happy that I was

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Speaker 1: able to include this in our Professional Homegirl Spooky series

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Speaker 1: starting now. So to my guests, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on the show. How you doing, How you feeling?

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. She was saying how she was a little

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Speaker 1: nervous earlier. Y'all, I tell her, don't be nervous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm new to this, so.

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Speaker 1: Don't be nervous. Now. What drew you to the belief

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Speaker 1: in vampirism and when did you first become interested in it?

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Speaker 2: Mm? Well, I've always been fascinated by it since I

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Speaker 2: was young, you know. And you know, we all get

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Speaker 2: those those glimpses of your through media, books and movies

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Speaker 2: and television, and it's like, oh, what's that all? About

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Speaker 2: But so.

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Speaker 1: When did you become interested, Like when did you start

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Speaker 1: believing in it?

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Speaker 2: When did I start believing in it? Probably when I

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Speaker 2: was a teenager, Yeah, yeah, because I met a guy

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Speaker 2: that in that was into them theorism and asked him,

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Speaker 2: you know the silly questions you asked when you're a kid,

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Speaker 2: can you turn me? And all that stuff? And he said,

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Speaker 2: I can't make you what you already are.

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Speaker 1: Well, come on, give us some more to you got

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Speaker 1: my attention now, don't stop right there.

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Speaker 2: I was always into like the darker aspects of things,

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Speaker 2: Like I grew up and I was a gothic type kid.

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Speaker 2: My mother used to call me, uh black Daria m m.

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Speaker 1: You know the cartoon Daria, right, Yes, yeah, I remember

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Speaker 1: the carton.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because I was very stoic.

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Speaker 1: So when you what did you mean him at.

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Speaker 2: Actually at school? You know, he was another I just

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Speaker 1: But what made you think that he was a vampire?

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Speaker 1: Like was he doing certain things or no.

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Speaker 2: He actually mentioned it and I said, oh, I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: interested at fascinating and what's it like and you know,

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Speaker 2: just joking around and he said, no, it's very serious.

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Speaker 2: M hmm. There are people view it different ways. Some

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Speaker 2: people see it as a lifestyle, some see it as,

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Speaker 2: you know, just the aspect of who they are. Some

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Speaker 2: see it as a spirituality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I read that somewhere that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: there's different ways to look at vampirism, and you have

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Speaker 1: some of the people look at it as something spiritual.

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Speaker 1: So how do you look at it?

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Speaker 2: For me, It's just an aspect of who I am,

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Speaker 2: you know, just like any other other characteristic trait that.

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Speaker 1: I may have. You have things in.

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Speaker 2: No, no, but I did have natural ones and they

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Speaker 1: Oh you was born with them?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow?

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Speaker 1: Is that something that reus in your family or yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So I can see why you you really

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So in your opinion, how do you define a vampire? Like,

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Speaker 1: what characteristics or abilities do you associate with VAMPIRESM.

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of vamp puristic creatures. Now, not every

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Speaker 2: vampiistic creature identifies as a vampire per se. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: a common fallacy. Most people think, oh, well, they consume

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Speaker 2: energy or blood or whatever, right, which honestly most don't.

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Speaker 1: I read that that's a big misconception.

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Speaker 2: That is a very big misconception. So yeah, people think

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Speaker 1: Right, So what would you say are some other misconceptions,

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like this is a misconception that you

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Speaker 2: Now it was very good, Yes, you, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Because I was reading somewhere that something affects a nervous system,

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Speaker 2: It can like most of those symptoms you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: So what would you say as some other misconceptions?

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Speaker 2: One that I find a little bit insulting.

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Speaker 1: Is come on, I get to shut off.

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Speaker 2: The term energy vampire being associated with narcissistic traits.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't think about that elaborate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, you'll hear people say, oh, that

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Speaker 2: then that's the thing people do have. There are people

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Speaker 1: A negative person, right. You know, I can tell you

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Speaker 2: I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I can tell y'all. I've got to see her face.

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Speaker 1: She was like, she is that with the shits with

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just that I'm so used to they're being

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Speaker 2: negative traits associated with a lot of alternative lifestyles like vampirism,

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Speaker 2: like being in the goth scene, and you know they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: So when I was doing research and research on this topic,

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Speaker 2: Yes, people that are drawn to vamperism are usually people

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Speaker 1: Right, So do you feel like you feel more comfortable

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Speaker 1: like a family and friends, because you've been doing this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in some aspects, yes, but you know, we all

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Speaker 2: spiritual side with like minded people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, And how long you been how

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see, I've been a part of the community.

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Speaker 2: You cannot, and I need to stress this, it's very important.

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Speaker 2: You cannot join the Greater Vampire Community until you are

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Speaker 2: over eighteen. Why is it because there are aspects of

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Speaker 2: people that take advantage of younger people that are so please,

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Speaker 1: Like, how old were you when you're joined?

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Speaker 2: I was an adult when I finally was able to join.

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Speaker 2: I actually found some people that were very good about

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Speaker 2: it and said, no, no, no, you can't. You can't

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Speaker 1: So what is your perspective on the portrayal of vampires

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Speaker 1: and popular cultures such as in movies, TV shows, and literature.

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Speaker 2: It's, you know, it fascinates me, and some of it

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Speaker 2: they get right, like what Oddly enough there's a show

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Speaker 2: called What We Do in the Shadows that's quite accurate.

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Speaker 2: And what's funny about it is it's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: I'm assumed that's not funny.

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Speaker 2: No, it is. It is pretty funny. But the fact

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite vampire movie?

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Speaker 2: Oh goodness, my favorite vampire movie would probably be uh

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Speaker 1: That's a classic.

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Speaker 2: Banona Ryder, wasn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I love the movie m hm, and the soundtrack as

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite songs, Love Song for a Vampire

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Speaker 2: by Annie Lennox.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know, you'd be going You be going off

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Speaker 1: ship it is, it really is. You don't like Blade.

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Speaker 2: I do like Blade. It's just you know, you asked

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Speaker 1: I love Blade? Will your House on Vampire in Brooklyn?

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Speaker 2: That movie was really, really funny. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Such a classic, such a classic. Yeah. Now, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the movies and the TV shows get wrong?

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Speaker 1: Because I will say that in the past, the older movies,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they made the vampires seem more monster like.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like in the newer movies, I do

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of what they get wrong is that,

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Speaker 2: you know, making us inhuman mm hmm and monstrous, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean you know hum can be monsters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we know that. Yeah. Now, can you explain the

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm? Vampires and has been around for a long

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Speaker 2: long time. Every culture there's been described some type of

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Speaker 2: place on Earth where they don't have mention of something.

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Speaker 1: Like that, right, So, I'm assuming that you believe that

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Speaker 2: Real, yes, but not in the way people think.

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Speaker 1: Right, So do you believe that vampires have a purpose

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just another type of being that exists, m

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Speaker 2: just like any other creature upon this earth. Right, Don't

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Speaker 2: we all have a purpose? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, we do, we do. But I think that with

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Speaker 2: Yes, not right away? Right? You know, it's something you

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Speaker 2: When I was going through what we call the first awakening?

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Speaker 1: So tell us about the process the initiation. Oh, the

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Speaker 1: Was it for you when you first got initia? Like

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah wow. So I'm assuming you don't go outside.

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Speaker 1: But I also feel like this is so rare though, right, Yes, it's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what's so crazy. I was watching some

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Speaker 2: You know, it's classified as a skin condition. There's literally

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Speaker 2: Like? I actually work for myself, so I set my

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Speaker 1: Come on, now, I've been a party. That's a boss.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you have to make certain concessions. And

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Speaker 2: I can. I can travel. When I travel, I try

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is this something that runs in your family?

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Speaker 1: Right now, says you're a part of this community. Is

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Speaker 2: No, you're not required. Did you do anything? You know,

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Speaker 1: So do y'all meet up like weekly or like, how

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Speaker 2: We actually just connect online.

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Speaker 2: Ye, we do on occasion, you know, we just get

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Speaker 1: So do you believe in the supernatural aspects of vampirism,

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Speaker 2: Most of those things are gonna be symbolic, you know.

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Speaker 2: You have to hear it, you know, because the goal

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Speaker 2: Right. And because people who are attracted to alternative lifestyles

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Speaker 2: You know, because they come in they don't know anything.

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Speaker 1: So you want to someone that's being that's abusing the

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Speaker 2: Yes, this person can interact be banned from the community.

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Speaker 2: They're no longer allowed to associate with anybody that's in

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Speaker 1: Persona no gotta okay. So with that being said, so

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have leaders, you have enforcers, you have just

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Speaker 1: And do you ask any dudes? No, No, because you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I guess it depends on the association,

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Speaker 1: Right, what would you do if you found somebody that

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Speaker 2: Yes? You can?

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Speaker 1: Wow? And what would happen?

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Speaker 2: It depends on how insidious their claim is, how bad

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Speaker 2: it is for the community, so to speak. Right, you know,

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Speaker 2: if they get called out as false and where gets around,

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Speaker 2: how that works, right, It's just you know, I know

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Speaker 1: I was want to say, how do you balance your

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Speaker 2: It does. It does just like any other aspect of

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Speaker 2: I don't really do anything different than anybody else. Really. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if you wasn't diagnosed with this condition

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Speaker 2: No? I still would be. Yeah, you know, because not

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Speaker 2: every vampire creature has those traits. Right for me, my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you handle criticism from people who

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Speaker 2: It was hard for me when I was younger, mm hmm,

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Speaker 2: because when you're younger, you know, you just want to

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Speaker 2: But as I got older, I just I got to

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Speaker 2: that's okay, Right, You're you and all you could do

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Speaker 2: There's always critics, you know, m h and that's okay,

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Speaker 1: The fact that you're allergic to the sun. I know

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Speaker 2: Some of them. You know what's really funny? How you

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Speaker 1: To the sun? Being racist?

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Speaker 1: Because that's a racist comment, you know that, right, It.

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Speaker 1: It's ignorance for sure. Yeah, that's a fact. Do you

438
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: meet other black women and men that's a part of

439
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: this community, because I feel like when I was doing research,

440
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: I was only finding white people.

441
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: No, No, I absolutely know other other mellenated vampires.

442
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: And how is that?

443
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: Like? You know what, you don't usually meet others in

444
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: most year in the community already, okay, because the community

445
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: is so closed and quiet about things. Really, yeah, you

446
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: don't because you don't know that.

447
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: A person is unless they tell you, unless they tell you, right. So,

448
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: do you think eventually that the community is going to

449
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: be a little bit more vocal because y'all do with it.

450
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: Y'all have like, if I'm not mistaken, y'all have like

451
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: a really big, well known ball.

452
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: Well there are a few different different ones, you know, right,

453
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: different communit you just put on different events. Do you

454
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: go when I can?

455
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't really fuck with them? Well they're not I

456
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: feel like we won't be with the ships with them.

457
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: Like those events are not cheap, yeah, yeah, okay, And

458
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: so when you decide you're going to go, there's a

459
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: lot of preparation that's involved. You have to pay for

460
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: your tickets, You have paid for your outfit, what you're

461
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: you know, you're entertainment for the rest of the evening whatever.

462
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: So it's it's a lot of preparation.

463
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: So when you because I'm assuming you have been to

464
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: a ball before, mm hmm, absolutely, how much does that

465
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: normally run you?

466
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: Anywhere from just the entry ticket alone can run anywhere

467
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: from say fifty to three hundred okay, depending on the event,

468
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: who's hosting, what prices they decided to set. And then

469
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: you have to think about what you're wearing. Yeah, which

470
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: you know, how outfits do you can? You can dress

471
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: to the nines and make that thing costs it's not cheap.

472
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: Some of us decide to be bougie and ran a

473
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: limo for the night or whatever because it is it's

474
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: it's social event.

475
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: You eat them. I tried to come on now, that's

476
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Let these niggas know.

477
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: Ye know, right when I can go, I do try

478
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: to go all out.

479
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: So are there any health or safety considerations when it

480
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: comes to practicing this, because obviously one of the biggest

481
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: things that everybody is going to assume is the consumption

482
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: of blood.

483
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: Right while some do, there are in fact safety protocols

484
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: in place. One thing that needs to be understood. You

485
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: do not bite somebody to feed from them. That is unsanitary. Okay,

486
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: it's not good for you, and it's not good for

487
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: your donor. Also vet your donors so that you don't

488
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 2: get rid of you don't want to catch something. And

489
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: you always need to get tested for things as well,

490
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: so you don't pass something on. It's about being responsible.

491
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: And also get people consent exactly.

492
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: Don't feed off somebody who doesn't want to be fed

493
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: off of.

494
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: You know, just be safe. Mm hm. So I'm assuming

495
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: you have heard people feeding off of other people.

496
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

497
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: So have you ever did it before?

498
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

499
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: And what was that like?

500
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Hmmm, It's hard to describe for me. It's like a

501
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: Russian energy m hm. That's the easiest way to put that.

502
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: It be like get energy drink.

503
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Wow, So how often do you have this energy drink?

504
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: Not often? I don't.

505
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't appoint.

506
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't, I don't blood feet often, Yeah, because

507
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: it takes preparation and you have to have a willing donor.

508
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: So walk me through a night of you feeding, Like,

509
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: do you already have somebody in mind? Is this somebody

510
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: that you've been talking to? Is this like your partner?

511
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: Usually it's either somebody you've been talking to or yes,

512
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: a partner, somebody who understands what's happening and why. And

513
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: sometimes there's ritual involved mhm. Sometimes it's just a pricative

514
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: finger and feed and you're done.

515
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: And is this person do they have to be a

516
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: vampire as well? Or it can just be any everybody

517
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: as long as they give their consent.

518
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: It it can be anybody as long as they give

519
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: their consent.

520
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: Right now, have you ever heard stories from anyone that

521
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: fed and got something they can't get rid of?

522
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why we But that's why we try to

523
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: really instill that idea of safety, right because it does

524
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: happen and you have to be careful. What do they

525
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: do hepatitis. Wow.

526
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: So are you ever nervous? Because I always feel like

527
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: you just never know people like people be lying?

528
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, people do be lying. So you do you have

529
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: to you have to go and say no, we need

530
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: to get tested, just like just like a partner, you're

531
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: gonna say, you know, let's be responsible without this, right.

532
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: Some people aren't. Some people aren't.

533
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: So how is dating for you? Like, do you tell

534
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: people or do you dating people from your community?

535
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Generally? Yes, I do mm hm. But you know, it

536
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be that. The longer you know somebody,

537
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: the more you're gonna divulge anyway. So if it's okay

538
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: with them, they're gonna be okay with it, and if not,

539
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna leave you alone.

540
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: But is it a deal breaker for you if they're

541
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: not okay with it?

542
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's just it's a part of who I am.

543
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: I can't help who I am. I'm not gonna stifle

544
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: a part of who you are. Yeah. For for your comfort,

545
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: I used.

546
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: To you to yeah, wow, and then when did you stop?

547
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, as I'm matured, I realized I

548
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: don't have to do that. And anybody who I want

549
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: to be around is going to be somebody who's accepting.

550
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the goal, so you can fully be yourself.

551
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: Is there anybody in your family who believes in this?

552
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, there are people in my family that

553
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: are spiritually inclined.

554
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so that must be a good feeling.

555
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very nice to know that I'm not alone.

556
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: My immediate family does not.

557
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Has that been hard? Like do y'all talk

558
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: or like y'all just don't talk about that.

559
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: We just don't talk about that, right. They're very loving

560
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: and kind people. It's just not something that they accept

561
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: and that's okay.

562
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Right now. Do you believe in the existence of other

563
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: supernatural beings or entities beyond vampires? M h and what

564
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: is that you believe in? We're wolves? Yes, because I

565
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: know it's a community of were wolves too.

566
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm married to them.

567
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: You married to one?

568
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh wow?

569
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Come on, not give us a tea? How long y'all

570
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: be married?

571
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: Well? Disclaimer, I am polyamorous, so a marriage is spiritual. Right,

572
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: I do have a legal married partner, Okay?

573
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: Is that the were wolf?

574
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: No?

575
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: Okay?

576
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Anyway, So I've been married to the wolf for three years?

577
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: Oh wow?

578
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: And what are the characteristics of a were wolf? Like

579
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: is it what we see on TV and stuff, or

580
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: like is the opposite? Honestly not obviously not the physical part.

581
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: But could you imagine if your partner was a change

582
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: like that?

583
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: That would be very interesting, wouldn't it.

584
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: No, it would definitely interesting.

585
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: No, they changed to be very vocal m in our

586
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: community anything. Bulls tend to be enforcers mm hmmm, because

587
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: they're strong.

588
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Like an authority figure.

589
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm hmm. They're strong and people listening to them,

590
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: and you don't listen to the wolves, then you're trying

591
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: to in trouble? Right?

592
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: And what about your other partner? Are they a vampire

593
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: or no? I had I lived with three of my partners. Okay,

594
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I know y'all be having a good old time over there,

595
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: just with the different personalities.

596
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: It's just a regular family household. We just because we

597
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: do have kids. Oh wow, yeah, we just we just

598
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: live as a regular family. There's more of us.

599
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: How many kids do you have.

600
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: Let's see all together, there are twelve kids in the house. No,

601
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: they don't all live with them the same. Most of

602
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: them are adults.

603
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I know y'all not getting a sleep.

604
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 2: No, we we we have. We have two of our

605
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: younger kids that live with that, and like I said,

606
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: most of them are adults. And then the wolf has

607
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: three daughters, but they live with his ex wife.

608
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: Right, And what does the children think about the vampirism

609
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: and the World war? Is like everything that y'all believe in.

610
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: They just take it in stride. It's just a part

611
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: of life. Yeah, it doesn't affect anything that they do that.

612
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: It's just there, right, you know, because like I said,

613
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: you don't involve miners in that, right, it's just not done.

614
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: So they you know, they joke about it. You know,

615
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 2: Mommy's not he's a van part. My kids used to say,

616
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: if mommy's not wearing black or something Gothic or Victorian,

617
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: you know she doesn't feel.

618
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: Good because you get on some blue I see, like

619
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: a little tie by shirt or something.

620
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm in my pajamas right now.

621
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, because I'm like, I hope everything goes days.

622
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: I want some something's wrong.

623
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I said I was taking an.

624
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: App so okay, yeah.

625
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: Because I do, in fact stay up at night.

626
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something happen because I know you mentioned this

627
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: before about you know, being a minor and being a

628
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: step into this community before the age of eighteen. Did

629
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: you hear a case or did you did you see

630
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: something that happened that went completely left when somebody got injured?

631
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: Yes?

632
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

633
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: And I've seen people grooming mm hm is a big thing.

634
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: And what like groom and how like what does groomen

635
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: look like?

636
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: You know, just influencing people that are underage to do

637
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: things they shouldn't be doing yet, right, you know, because

638
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: like I said, there's a lot of things that are

639
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 2: involved in our communities that are not for underage people, right,

640
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: because they're like I said, there's a crossover with alternative lifestyle.

641
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: So you're gonna get into things like videosm mm hm.

642
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: You know, and you can't consent as a minor. The

643
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: fed off of that's not okay.

644
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: Right, a part of initiation you have to get fed

645
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: off of, not necessarily right in some cases.

646
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: In some cases it's more ritualistic thing if that occurs.

647
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: But the rituals that are involved and the protocols that

648
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: are involved are very adult, right. But there are some

649
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: people that take advantage of others.

650
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: So what happened to those people? Because I'm pretty sure

651
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that feel the same way

652
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: that you do. Like, do these people get banned or yes,

653
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: they do.

654
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: They get banned, they get reported to the police. Oh

655
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: we have people, Yeah, no, it's serious. We've had people

656
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: that are now in jail. What we're involving minors? Wow,

657
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: once they were found out they were investigated and it

658
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: was found out that they were in fact doing very

659
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Speaker 2: criminal things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you arrisk that?

661
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: Well, you know, as a kid can go, oh this

662
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Speaker 2: is cool and I want to.

663
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Speaker 1: Know, right, but as an adult though, like you know better.

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Speaker 2: You would think so wouldn't end? You're right, it's that serious.

665
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Speaker 1: And then what do y'all do with the kids? I mean,

666
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: obviously there are kids, but like, once they get of age,

667
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: do y'all allowed on the b N or.

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00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: It's their choice. It's their choice. They can either participate

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00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: or not once they are of age. Right, We're not

670
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: going to force our way of life onto anybody. That's

671
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: not how we do this.

672
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: You feel like this way your life shows you?

673
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because I was certainly not raised like this.

674
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What is their background? I'm just curious my.

675
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Parents through Jehovah's witnesses. Oh wow, so yeah, this is uh,

676
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: might say, very against what they believe.

677
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, this is no Jehovah.

678
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: And uh, I respect their.

679
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Beliefs yours m hm.

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00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: And you know that's their faith, and I'm happy that

681
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: they found something that they feel comfortable in spirit, right,

682
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: I would just like to be afforded the same, you know,

683
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: the same acceptance. And I, like I said, when I

684
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: was younger, it was really hard for me because I

685
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: wanted to be accepted.

686
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can only imagine how hard it was for you.

687
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Who doesn't want to be accepted by their parents

688
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: and want them to understand and.

689
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: Believe in them?

690
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: Right? But as I got older, I said, you know,

691
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: it's okay for them not to understand this part of

692
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: who I'm right, and I love them anyway, right.

693
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: And you have siblings, I do, But how do they

694
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: feel about it?

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00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: One of my sisters is also she decided she was

696
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: going to go with my parents' faith, and she that's

697
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: what she does. She just kind of right, you do

698
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: you sis? And then my other sisters more she understands

699
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: and accepts it more.

700
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Yeah, but yeah, I can only imagine how

701
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: hertful that was in the beginning.

702
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was, especially when I was a

703
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: teenager and so learning about myself, I was I was

704
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: a very angry teenager. Yeah, because I I was going

705
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: through a lot because I was diagnosed with fibromialgy at

706
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: the age of twelve.

707
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Which is very common in a lot of black women.

708
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, yes, sadly it is. At that time, there weren't

709
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: a lot of really young people being diagnosed. So I

710
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: was a you know, I don't want to say a

711
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: rare case, but I was an outlier, yeah, because I

712
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: was only twelve. Yeah, and I had to go through

713
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: all those tests to see what it was. They thought

714
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: it was lupis, they thought it was cancer, they thought

715
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: it was all kinds of stuff, right, So, and generally

716
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: when you have fibromyalgia, you're going to have a double diagnosis.

717
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: So at twelve, I was diagnosed with firebroom. At seventeen,

718
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. Mmmm. So yeah,

719
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: it's it's been interesting.

720
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Wow. What a life is that? How you feel out?

721
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: How you feel like? Are you good?

722
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: I have my good days. I have my days where

723
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: I gotta allow myself to just rest. Yeah, it's mostly

724
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: about self acceptance. You gotta do what you gotta do

725
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: to feel good.

726
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: So how has your belief in vampirerism evolve or change

727
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: over time, if at all? Well, because I can only

728
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: imagine what this has done for you and your mental health,

729
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: like for you to finally have like okay, like you

730
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: feel at home with yourself.

731
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: Right right? Right? Right?

732
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: So you.

733
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: Mostly that's what it involves is feeling comfortable being who

734
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: I am. And I found the more comfortable a person

735
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: is with themselves, the more positive they tend to be.

736
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

737
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: You know, like going back to the Adams family thing,

738
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: you think those people really were insecure about who they were, right,

739
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure they had their moments like everybody else,

740
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: but right, this is who we are and this is

741
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: what we do. We either accept it or you don't.

742
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: And this is what makes me happy.

743
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: And this is what makes me happy. And the more

744
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: you accept yourself, the easier it is to accept others.

745
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Right, you know that part that's a fact.

746
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: I find there's a lot less hatred in the people

747
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: who accept.

748
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: Themselves absolutely because a lot of the stuff that's projection

749
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: when you don't accept yourself.

750
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: There's no need for that competition, there's no need for

751
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: that backbiting or talking bad about people when you feel

752
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: good about who you are.

753
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you don't need to be a vampire to

754
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: know that exactly. That's just common life shit.

755
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: That's common life, right, And that's what I'm trying to

756
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: in part, is that for most of us, it's just

757
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: common life. Yeah, you know, it's not nearly as weirder

758
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: or spooky as people think it is.

759
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not least. What is your advice you

760
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: would like to offer to someone who is curious about

761
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: vampirism or even considerate exploring it in the future.

762
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: What I want to tell you is to do your research. Also,

763
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: trust your instincts. If somebody don't feel right to you,

764
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: pay attention to that facts. Stay safe. All right.

765
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Speaker 1: Well, I think this was a good conversation. She was

766
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Speaker 1: nervous in the beginning, y'all, but she opened up a

767
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: little bit. So I appreciate you, I really do. I

768
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: think that this is very insightful. I think that it

769
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: was definitely eye opening. And I think that you know,

770
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: to take away from something that obviously people go to

771
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, like what what do you

772
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: mean she's a vampire, But like it's all about just

773
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: a sense of being comfortable in who you are and

774
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: just finding your tribe.

775
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: That's right, that's exactly right.

776
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I appreciate you coming to the show and

777
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Speaker 1: sharing your story.

778
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me of course.

779
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Speaker 1: Of course, and to the listeners, if you have any questions,

780
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Speaker 1: comments and concerns, please make sure to email me at

781
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Speaker 1: hello at thepsgpodcast dot com. And until next time, everyone,

782
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: you look so progne. It's making me feel good good.

783
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Speaker 2: So it's just nice to be able to share with

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00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: somebody who wants to listen.

785
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, until next time, everyone later. The Professional Homegirl Podcast

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