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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome in here. We're talking

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Speaker 2: college football, we're talking to NFL. We got a combo

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Speaker 2: platter today, very fired up for it. We've got Rich Ornberger,

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Speaker 2: We've got Jared Smith. I would like to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: at the very beginning here, a lot of people call

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Speaker 2: him rich oh for obvious reason. That would be Rich

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Speaker 2: three and oh. After last Saturday he crushed it. We're

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Speaker 2: looking for more tremendous predictions that if you Rich three

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Speaker 2: and oh, my friend, Well.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: Here's the problem with this broadcast is it's going smoothly.

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Speaker 4: You know, everything connected, the lights are on, the computer works,

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Speaker 4: the broadcast equipment hasn't failed me, the powers on.

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Speaker 3: I had to have a.

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Speaker 4: Catastrophe last week in order to go three and oh

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Speaker 4: and the only week of its kind.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we've been doing this for I don't

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Speaker 3: know what is it, fifteen weeks now. That was my

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Speaker 3: first That was my first three and oh week. Go figure.

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Speaker 4: So anyways, I'm counting on going one and two because

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Speaker 4: I'm also people know me as you know, Rich Rich shoh,

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Speaker 4: big Rich Rich three and oh.

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Speaker 3: But I'm Rich one and two.

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Speaker 4: So if I'm giving out three picks, you gotta just

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Speaker 4: circle the one you love the most that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: the winner.

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Speaker 5: That's fair, I mean, based off of prior history. But

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Speaker 5: there's always a chance to turn it around.

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Speaker 1: See. That's the beauty of gambling, guys, is you're lucky.

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Speaker 5: You're You're only as good as yesterday's starting pitcher, as

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Speaker 5: they say in baseball, right, because you never know, it

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Speaker 5: could be another three in a week.

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Speaker 1: We could be talking about Rich six and oh next week.

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Speaker 5: And now the game changes a little bit, right because

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Speaker 5: I looked at the standings this morning, and not to

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Speaker 5: make it about us, but it is our show, right.

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Speaker 5: The standings are pretty tight at the top, and we've

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Speaker 5: got about eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Left until the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: I might be missing a week or two there, but

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Speaker 5: we're doing this picks thing throughout. And unlike last year,

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Speaker 5: where I feel like it was pretty much decided by

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Speaker 5: around this time that I was going to be the victor,

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Speaker 5: it is not decided this year.

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Speaker 1: I've got well.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I think Brian, in terms of percentage points, I

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Speaker 5: think you're ahead because you have that one push. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so you have the one you know out in La

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Speaker 5: La Land there that doesn't count, So percentage points wise,

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Speaker 5: I think Brian's actually the lead dog heading into this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to give you an extra pick because

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Speaker 2: I had Texas A and M running back who didn't play.

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Speaker 3: So it was a push.

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Speaker 2: It was a non result, So yeah, I need to

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Speaker 2: give you an extra pick. But we are we are

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Speaker 2: bunched up, man, bunched up very tightly. How about this.

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Speaker 2: Let's start it when we get into the college football

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Speaker 2: playoff chase and there's no more chase. The four teams

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Speaker 2: have been selected, and the big debate was Alabama getting

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Speaker 2: in Florida State undefeated being left out. Simple question is

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Speaker 2: did the committee get it right?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Give you my quick you know, cliffs notes version. I

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Speaker 2: think this comes down to thoughts versus results, and the

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Speaker 2: committee made it very clear that they're like, we think

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Speaker 2: that we've got the best four teams.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We think Alabama could win a national championship. We don't

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Speaker 2: think Florida State could given their quarterback situation. I get

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Speaker 2: all of that, but I go more so by results

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Speaker 2: because your thoughts can be misleading. I thought, as many

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Speaker 2: game against Washington that didn't work out so great. You

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Speaker 2: think Alabama is better, that might not be the case.

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Speaker 2: I would rather go by results. In thirteen and er,

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Speaker 2: even though you don't have Jordan Travis, they won every

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Speaker 2: game as a Power five team thirteen to zero. In

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Speaker 2: the ACC I think Florida State should have gotten in,

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Speaker 2: But I think it comes down to thoughts versus results.

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Speaker 2: I would lean more so to results than just your

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Speaker 2: thoughts of what you think might happen, because I got

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Speaker 2: news for you. What you think might happen might be

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Speaker 2: the opposite of what actually does happen.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with what you said.

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Speaker 4: This was thoughts over results, and I think that's a

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Speaker 4: great way to sort of distill it. If you're asking

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Speaker 4: is unfortunately yes, because this isn't based on results. This

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Speaker 4: going to look at it as a made for TV moment, well,

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Speaker 4: they're appeasing their networks, their partnerships, they're making good on

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Speaker 4: back channel deals that I'm sure are going on, and

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Speaker 4: Hardy handshakes in hallways before committees adjoin.

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Speaker 3: This is what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's not a real playoff. It's not a real playoff bracket.

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Speaker 4: See the NFL if you want to see a real

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Speaker 4: playoff bracket. You know, for years in the UFC, there's

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Speaker 4: been these arguments like these fighters, they're not getting a

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Speaker 4: he just picks which fights he thinks is going to

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Speaker 4: be the best draw. And guess what, that's one of

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Speaker 4: the fastest rising sports in the United States. And there's

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Speaker 4: reason for it because he's not predicating fights and moments

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Speaker 4: based on results. He's basing it on gut and feel

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Speaker 4: and viewership and pay per view monies. And that's exactly

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Speaker 4: what the College Football Committee did here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's all about how you feel, right, Like, what,

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Speaker 5: how do you describe?

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Speaker 1: How do you explain? Right?

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Speaker 5: Did the committee pick the teams that would are in

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Speaker 5: the best interest of their goals?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Did the committee do what it normally does? Did the

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Speaker 5: committee do what it did for the group of five?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Very inconsistent, In fact, the exact opposite.

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Speaker 5: So in the collegeball playoff, the committee took the best team,

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Speaker 5: audience best team Alabama left out the most observing team,

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Speaker 5: Florida State. Well, they had to make a similar decision

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Speaker 5: for the group of five, right, one group of five

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Speaker 5: team gets a berth.

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Speaker 1: Into the new year six. They had two options.

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Speaker 5: They had thirteen and oh Liberty that played the best

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Speaker 5: or excuse me, the worst schedule in all of college football,

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Speaker 5: the best team clearly hands down. If Liberty played SMU

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Speaker 1: Very inconsistent, Very hard for.

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Speaker 5: Us as analysts as fans of college football to figure

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Speaker 1: No consistency, not a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of accountability, frankly, because they kind of contradicted themselves

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Speaker 5: like five or six different times. Afterwards, and I understand

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Speaker 5: why the decision was made, but was it the right decision.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of hard for me to say yes because

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Speaker 5: very inconsistent rhetoric coming from the committee over the last

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Speaker 2: There, To be fair, there was no perfect decision the

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Speaker 2: way they did it. It's like, how do you leave

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Speaker 2: State in, it's like, man, look at their quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: Look at the stats from the last two games without

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Speaker 2: Then against Louisville last week, true freshman brought Glenn eight

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Speaker 2: So if you did it the opposite way, we'd be

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Speaker 2: sitting here saying, man, is it the right decision to

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Speaker 2: leave the SEC out? There was no perfect decision to make.

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Speaker 2: I also think this is funny too, because remember a

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Speaker 2: You could say we definitely took that into account. But man,

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Speaker 2: didn't choose to do that. They were like, oh, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: the Jordan Travis injury had no bearing on anything. And

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Speaker 2: then when we get down to it and it's time

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Speaker 2: for the final four teams, that's all it was about.

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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous what they pulled a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: to picking the final four teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, here's the reason, Jared, to comment on

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Speaker 4: your inconsistency point. I do think that this was a

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Speaker 4: bigger brand, Southern Methodist or Liberty. You know, it seems

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Speaker 4: consistent to me from the standpoint of viewership and ratings

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Speaker 4: The reason why Ohio State even though if Ohio State

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Speaker 4: they would be favored, right, so arguably they're one of

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Speaker 4: Washington should be in.

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Speaker 3: If Georgia was in, they would be favored over Washington.

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Speaker 4: I mean every analytic points to that being the case,

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Speaker 4: you know, So I look at this very simply. Ohio

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Speaker 4: why the Alabama snuck in is because look at the past,

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Speaker 4: it's always the.

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Speaker 3: SEC champion, always, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we have a one loss SEC champion that

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Speaker 4: just knocked off an undefeated Georgia team in the championship game.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but they're getting in.

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Speaker 4: That's how it's been because that's where the steam is

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Speaker 4: a no brainer, we know how. I mean, they created

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Speaker 4: their own network, the Longhorn Network, because they can support

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Speaker 4: was irrefutable because Pennix Junior is on this Heisman watch,

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Speaker 4: and it's just all about money it had. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you could get caught up in results in numbers and

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Speaker 4: deserving or not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to talk about QB numbers

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Speaker 4: Being paltry, look at what JJ McCarthy did against penn

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Speaker 3: So going back to the what's his.

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Speaker 4: Name, Glenn brock block Gren, it doesn't matter, going back

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Speaker 3: If it was about.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback play Michigan would it be at this game.

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Speaker 3: So to me, this is so simple.

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Speaker 4: It's just about what gets the most eyes on the product.

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Speaker 4: And that's the reason why they made the decision they did.

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Speaker 1: Well what happens. Is that good for TV? I would

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Speaker 5: I understand why they did it?

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Speaker 1: Probably? But I don't really like it, to be honest with.

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Speaker 2: You, I hate every portion of it. Like you guys

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Speaker 2: If we're just going for brand names, where are we

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree with you more, couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: Countwn he watch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so probably don't want to bet on the Heisman

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's Jaden Daniels from LSU. Over five thousand yards, fifty

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Speaker 2: The question for me is by how much is this

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Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be some people who throw in

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Speaker 1: The top six on the other side, so ten through.

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Speaker 2: You know, as a glance at the Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: Who could be? You'd be talking about? I don't, I

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Speaker 1: I think I know who it might be.

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Speaker 3: What's one of them?

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Speaker 4: What's interesting about this award is it is, in a

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Speaker 3: He had the standout season.

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Speaker 4: He did things that very few humans have done in

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Speaker 3: He should win it.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny about that? It should be the

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Speaker 2: got stuck in reference to get.

441
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Speaker 3: Out of it.

442
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Speaker 2: I'm not a stunt double for a bano over here.

443
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Speaker 2: You haven't noticed. But the highest amount of tickets should

444
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Speaker 2: do Sanders, the highest handle second should do Sanders that

445
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: was stuck in a moment to the nth degree. And

446
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: that's a good lesson because there's a difference between where

447
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: things are and where they're headed where they're going to

448
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Speaker 2: end up. And Colorado started off great, the big win

449
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 2: against TCU, a lot of sizzle, lot of focus. But

450
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Speaker 2: if you watch him, you knew that offensive line wasn't

451
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Speaker 2: gonna hold up. You knew they weren't gonna keep stockpiling

452
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Speaker 2: wins in Pac twelve play. So it reminded me a

453
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Speaker 2: lot of remember when Elie Dela Cruz of the Cincinnati

454
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: Reds he burst onto the scene and it was like,

455
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Speaker 2: this guy is phenomenal and he was, and there were

456
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Speaker 2: a lot of bets like is he gonna win Rookie

457
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Speaker 2: of the Year and it's like, no, man, he's playing

458
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Speaker 2: a fraction of the games, is Corbyn Carrol. But you

459
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Speaker 2: get stuck in that moment and you overreact. A lot

460
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Speaker 2: of betters did that with jaduor Sanders. He's not even

461
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Speaker 2: in the top ten.

462
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Speaker 3: And it's hard.

463
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Speaker 4: It's hard to see those punches landing when when it

464
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Speaker 4: feels like like okay, so start of the season, all

465
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Speaker 4: of the arguments you just made are one hundred percent

466
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Speaker 4: spot on. But I think the the eye trick that

467
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 4: happened to everybody was, yeah, they've got some cupcakes on

468
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 4: the schedule. But TCU played for a national championship last

469
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Speaker 4: year and what he did against them was was significant.

470
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Speaker 4: And then you look at USC, a conference opponent, which

471
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Speaker 4: was an early er season game, and you say, my goodness,

472
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Speaker 4: like against USC, now they don't have a defense. And

473
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Speaker 4: then when they started going against the better defenses in

474
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Speaker 4: the Pac twelve or what used to be called the

475
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Speaker 4: Pac twelve, it was it was really amazing.

476
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Speaker 3: So I get it.

477
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Speaker 4: I totally understand where some of that thought process came from. Also,

478
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Speaker 4: there are a lot of people who are casuals. They're

479
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Speaker 4: not studying tape. They're not going to be crunching numbers.

480
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: They're going to be standing around the water cooler and

481
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Speaker 4: somebody goes, hey, if you haven't gotten in on this,

482
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Speaker 4: shador Sanders high an action yet, take out your app

483
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 4: right now, whatever it is, bet MGM or what you know,

484
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 4: take out your betting app.

485
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Speaker 3: And put a little just sprinkle a half unit on there.

486
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Speaker 3: As Jared would like to say.

487
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Speaker 1: You're learning, you're learning the lingo. So it's funny.

488
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Speaker 5: There was my pal to Murray, I do one of

489
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Speaker 5: the Vegas shows here in town with. He was talking

490
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Speaker 5: to his buddy who was in town for a bachelor

491
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Speaker 5: party this week, and the buddy wanted gambling advice, and

492
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Speaker 5: Tim rightfully said, whatever your bachelor party's doing through the

493
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 5: opposite kind of the exact same mindset there. The herd

494
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 5: mentality is not good. Is not a sound approach in betting,

495
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 5: because when it's a supply, it's a law like the mark.

496
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Speaker 5: The one thing people don't fully grasp some times about

497
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Speaker 5: betting is it's a market. It's like supplying demand, just

498
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 5: like you know, soybeans are you buy more soybeans, and

499
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Speaker 5: the price is going to go up because the supply

500
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Speaker 5: goes down and the man goes up. Right, It's the

501
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 5: same thing in betting. If everyone bets something, well, then

502
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 5: the sports books all of a sudden have a liability

503
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Speaker 5: towards that, and then the price moves because they want

504
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 5: you to bet the other side, and then the value

505
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: goes down. So something is not as it's not as bettable.

506
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 5: The more the more people bet something, it becomes less betable,

507
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: not because the handicap of the game change, just because

508
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 5: the price changes. So I think that's where you look

509
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Speaker 5: at those types of situations.

510
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Speaker 1: Don't follow the herd.

511
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Speaker 5: If everyone if you're seeing one trend, one bet on

512
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 5: your timeline and it's just constant. Everyone's betting this, like

513
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 5: the Army Navy under last year, and you're like, well,

514
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: maybe I shouldn't bet the Army Navy under this year.

515
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 5: So it just it's a very easy, uh you know,

516
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Speaker 5: way to just fade the noise, fade the public. It's

517
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 5: a very common saying, and it does hold value in

518
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Speaker 5: betting because.

519
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Speaker 1: Of the simple laws of supplying demand.

520
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Speaker 2: Well, I think there are check engine bets meaning this

521
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: you ever drive down the road and your check engine

522
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: light comes on.

523
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Speaker 1: It's I always ignore it.

524
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Speaker 2: Most of the time. People ignore it and you're gonna

525
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: be fine that day. You might be fine for the

526
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Speaker 2: next week, the next month. But give it a little

527
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: bit of time and things are probably gonna go really badly.

528
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: That's what Shador Sanders was that bet for him to

529
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Speaker 2: win the Heisman was the check engine light just kind

530
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: of illuminating and you'd being like, ah, whatever, I'll crank

531
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Speaker 2: up the radio as let's just pretend it's not even there.

532
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: Maybe you put some duct tape over. I don't know,

533
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: but eventually it is not going to go your way.

534
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of bets like that as well.

535
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: There is somebody that does not have his check engine

536
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Speaker 2: light at all on. That would be Isaac Klowen cun

537
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Speaker 2: because he is running at optimum performance level at all

538
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Speaker 2: times and he's got the latest fear show.

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Speaker 8: Hey o, Tani has not decided yet not to you guys.

540
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Speaker 1: Well, the wildest story in all of sports, what was it?

541
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Speaker 1: A shark tank guy yesterday was on.

542
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Speaker 8: The place Shark tank guy that.

543
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Speaker 1: Trolling us.

544
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Speaker 8: You could not make that stuff up if you tried.

545
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Speaker 8: But I have sprained my right index finger. REFETI refresh literally,

546
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Speaker 8: I'm not even joking about that, but yes, he still

547
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Speaker 8: has not decided yet. We do have some fresh news

548
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 8: this morning out of the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steels announcing

549
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 8: in a short time ago, star pass rusher TJ. Watt

550
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 8: has been placed in concussion protocol. In the NBA, on

551
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Speaker 8: Friday night, the Dallas Mavericks wanted Portland one twenty five

552
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 8: to one twelve. Kyrie Irving left the game with a

553
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 8: right foot injury in the second quarter. The Orlando Magic

554
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Speaker 8: with a one twenty three to ninety one victory over

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Speaker 8: the Detroit Pistons. The Pistons on a nineteen game losing streak.

556
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Speaker 8: They are now two and twenty. The San Antonio Spurs

557
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 8: now on a sixteen game losing streak. They lost to

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Speaker 8: the Chicago Bulls one twenty one to one twelve, despite

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Speaker 8: Victor Weembinyama twenty one points, twenty rebounds and four blocks,

560
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 8: becoming the youngest player in NBA history to have a

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty game. The Minnesota Timberwolves improved to seventeen and

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Speaker 8: four with a one twenty seven to one oh three

563
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Speaker 8: win at Memphis. Shay Gilders. Alexander scored thirty eight in

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Speaker 8: the Oklahoma City Thunders one thirty eight one thirty six

565
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Speaker 8: overtime win over the Golden State Warriors, and the Boston

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Speaker 8: Celtics improved to ten and zero at home with a

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Speaker 8: one thirty three to one twenty three triumph over the

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Speaker 8: New York Knicks. Gonna hit refresh one more time, Dodgers.

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Speaker 8: No still hasn't designed yet.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, that would be a coup. Thank you,

571
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Speaker 3: Hi Low.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radios Capdown to kick Off, presented

573
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Speaker 2: by Bett MGM. How about this, you see the story

574
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: the we were just talking about Colorado. They got a

575
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Speaker 2: five star offensive lineman, Jordan Seaton. He chose the Buffs

576
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: overget this Alabama, Ohio State and others. So Deon Sanders

577
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: and Colorado they get a big commit over here, five

578
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: star offensive lineman, and man, you talk about a need

579
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Speaker 2: I think in the NFL draft. This this fills an

580
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: that would be Colorado. And the thing that I think of,

581
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm still surprised their recruiting class is so low, so low.

582
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: We're talking it's barely above Colorado State, you know, And

583
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I just think back to Deon Sanders and the hoodie

584
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: that he wears where it says I ain't hard to find,

585
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I don't know that

586
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders is getting on a plane. Who are just

587
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: talking about show hey?

588
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: Andy?

589
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: Maybe he's like show hey, He's not getting on a

590
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: plane and going somewhere right, Like, I don't know if

591
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: he's going to do the grind type stuff to get

592
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: out there, get at the high school where it's this,

593
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm Deon Sanders, you can find me. I'm not hard

594
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: to find. I don't think that that approach works when

595
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: these other coaches are going there in person trying to

596
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: woo these recruits. I think that's got to change for

597
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: these recruiting classes to be a lot more higher ranked.

598
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: What Dion Sanders is going to need to learn his

599
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: humility because when you are recruiting college stars or potential

600
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: college stars out of high school, they are being wooed

601
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Speaker 4: by some of the biggest names in college football like

602
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Speaker 4: Nick Sabin and Ryan Day and Dabo Sweeney and these

603
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: other guys who are trying to rebuild their programs too,

604
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: because every year you got to rebuild your program, and

605
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: they're doing it by you know, speaking all the niceties

606
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Speaker 4: and telling them how great they are. They're not talking

607
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Speaker 4: to them about how they have to come to campus

608
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: and prove it. Look Dean Sanders, if he made one

609
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: thing very clear. Even though there's a very modern, media

610
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Speaker 4: savvy feel.

611
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: To that program, it's old school.

612
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: And so when you have a meritocracy, or in his case,

613
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Speaker 4: you know a team that is going to not make

614
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: excuses for anybody and they're going to put out the

615
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: best product as he sees fit. And you know, you

616
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Speaker 4: saw the way he handled the team when he took over,

617
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: kicking a lot of the current Colorado Buffaloes out the

618
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Speaker 4: door and replacing.

619
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Speaker 3: Them with new faces. You know that speaks to a

620
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Speaker 3: couple of different things.

621
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Speaker 4: You know, there may be some nerves of potential recruits about, well,

622
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Speaker 4: if it's not working out for me, am I gonna

623
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Speaker 4: be shoved out the door?

624
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: You know, if Dion doesn't like me, if.

625
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: I fall out of favor with the head coach, are

626
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: they gonna honor my scholarship? You know, there's there's questions

627
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: that need to be answered that only time will tell.

628
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Speaker 4: Whereas you look at some of these other football programs,

629
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Speaker 4: they have the they have history on their side. You know,

630
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Speaker 4: you can reference back years now with Ryan Day or

631
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Speaker 4: Nick Saban or whoever.

632
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Speaker 3: You know.

633
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Speaker 4: Here's Here's the other problem is, I think when he

634
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 4: was at I think when he was at Jacksonville or

635
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Speaker 4: what was a Jackson State, when he walked into a

636
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Speaker 4: living room of any of these potential recruits, it was like, Wow,

637
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 4: Dion Sanders is in my living room. Some of these

638
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: high school football five stars that he's trying to woo

639
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: to come to the Buffalos.

640
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Speaker 3: Now, this is old hat.

641
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: Dion Sanders compared to some of the guys who they

642
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: have in their cell phone is like, you know, they

643
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: have current NFL stars who's throwing to them and doing

644
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: seven on seven drols with them in the offseason. Like,

645
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 4: you're not gonna impress these type of recruits just because

646
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: you're Dion Sanders anymore. So he's got to get real

647
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: use to the difference in recruiting a five star versus

648
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: these recruits out of high school who were impressed.

649
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Speaker 3: With who he was when he was at Jackson State.

650
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Speaker 5: And the program he's building is intriguing, right, I mean,

651
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 5: it's his first year. They went over their win total.

652
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: I know there was a lot of hype early and

653
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: people probably bought into it too much and based off

654
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Speaker 5: of how things went towards the end, they probably viewed

655
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Speaker 5: this season for Colorado as a failure. But I don't

656
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Speaker 5: think you can do that. I think it's a massive success.

657
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 5: They put themselves on the map. They have talent in

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Speaker 5: that room, and now they're building a program.

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Speaker 1: It takes time.

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Speaker 5: And to that point, not only did they get this

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Speaker 5: offensive lineman who's a five star kid, they also signed

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Speaker 5: signed or you know, attracted Phil Lohote, former offenseive lineman

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Speaker 5: to go coach former NFL offensive lineman to go coach

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Speaker 5: the offensive line at Colorado.

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Speaker 1: So again, you're.

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Speaker 5: Bringing in former NFL players, you're bringing in five star kids.

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Speaker 5: You build enough bricks in the house and it becomes

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Speaker 5: really thirty. We're not there yet, right we're just starting

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Speaker 5: to build the foundation in Colorado. I don't know how

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Speaker 5: long he's going to stay.

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Speaker 1: Who knows.

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Speaker 5: It could all get ripped up in a year or two.

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Speaker 5: But the path they're going on right now, they've got

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Speaker 5: the skill position talent. They were always devoid of the

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Speaker 5: talent up front. That was the whole reason why we

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Speaker 5: didn't like Colorado coming into the year. It wasn't because

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Speaker 5: of their skill positions. It was because of the trenches.

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Speaker 5: They weren't fortified yet, like most Division one programs are,

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Speaker 5: because of all of the upheaval that happened in the offseason.

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Speaker 5: Well now things are getting a little bit more settled, right,

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Speaker 5: And I think this year you're going to see that

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Speaker 5: win total increase going into the following season and the

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Speaker 5: expectations are going to be higher.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how Colorado handles it.

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Speaker 5: And again, it all depends on the longevity if he

686
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Speaker 5: leaves in a year or two for some SEC programmer,

687
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Speaker 5: who knows. But I think right now they're building. They're

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Speaker 5: building a winner in Colorado. But it's just it just

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Speaker 5: takes more a little more time than what the public

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Speaker 5: tends to want.

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Speaker 2: I'm just surprised. You hear the expression strike when the

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Speaker 2: iron is hot. The iron is hot for Colorado, all

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Speaker 2: the hype, all of the attention, they were the it school,

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Speaker 2: and there aren't that many recruits in the top four hundred.

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Speaker 2: You ask yourself, why why is that? And certainly the

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Speaker 2: turnover with the transfer portal initially has something to do

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Speaker 2: with it. And I also think it's the celebrity coach

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Speaker 2: mentality where it's I'm not hard to find. I want

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Speaker 2: You gotta be out there, man, you gotta be on

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Speaker 2: Let Okay, it was a winner last week. Very nice.

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Speaker 2: Little six legs for Jared Smith. Worked out great in

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game. Shout out to the Hawkeyes.

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Speaker 2: Not scoring a point at the parlay quite a bit unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: What do you have cooked up for us today, Jared?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, We're we're getting in the nitty gritty now.

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Speaker 1: I think next week, based.

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Speaker 5: Off of the games that are being played on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: I might have the multi game parlay for you.

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Speaker 1: But let's fit in broke, don't fix it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go right back.

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Speaker 5: To the well and do a similar guy to what

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Speaker 5: we did last week, which is taking one game. There's

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Speaker 5: one game on the calendar today, and we'll mix and

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Speaker 5: match and try to find some positively correlated angles for

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Speaker 1: It's Army Navy today, the crazy low total.

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Speaker 5: But I think it might be too low, right because

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Speaker 5: when I look at the teams and their their passing

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Speaker 5: attempts per game last year, but Army and Navy we're

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Speaker 5: averaging ten passing attempts per game this year. Navy's up

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Speaker 5: to fifteen, Armies up to fourteen. So again you're starting

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Speaker 5: to see a little bit more offense with these seams.

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Speaker 5: So here's how we're gonna play. We're gonna do a

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Speaker 5: four leg same game parlay. We're gonna take.

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Speaker 1: Navy plus three and a half in the first half.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take Navy plus seven and a half for

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Speaker 1: the full game.

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Speaker 5: Again, if they cover three and a half in the

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Speaker 5: first half, odds are pretty good they're gonna cover seven

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Speaker 5: and a half for the full game. Then we're gonna

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Speaker 5: go to the team totals and we're gonna say both

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Speaker 5: teams will score at least three points in the first half.

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Speaker 5: So all we need is a fuel goal on each

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Speaker 5: side or more in the first half, and then we'll

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Speaker 5: go over nine and a half for both teams in

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Speaker 5: the full game. So as long as both teams get

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Speaker 5: to ten or more, we are good. And this same

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Speaker 5: game parlay.

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Speaker 1: Pays three to one again.

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Speaker 5: It's currently available at bet MGM Navy plus three and

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Speaker 5: a half in the first half, Navy plus seven and

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Speaker 5: a half full game, and you go to the team total.

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Speaker 5: Both teams over two and a half points in the

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Speaker 5: first half, both teams over nine and a half points.

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Speaker 1: It's in the full game.

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Speaker 5: Just a fun little correlated parlay with Army Navy get

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Speaker 5: you three to one though, so not terrible, right, goes

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Speaker 5: three to one, not bad like.

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Speaker 4: That like that A lot really loved the Iowa Michigan parlay.

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Speaker 1: It was so spicy when.

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Speaker 4: You when you have a parlay like that where you're

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Speaker 4: not involved from a financial like, I'm not a fiduciary

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Speaker 4: of Jared Smith's at all.

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Speaker 3: All I am if you want, well all I have. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I might be a backer.

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Speaker 4: Actually sometimes I am all of all of the group

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Speaker 4: text that we had firing off throughout that run.

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Speaker 3: It was fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Iowa is the gift that keeps on getting. I'm sad

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Speaker 5: that Brian Farrens is gonna be no longer. It's a

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Speaker 5: really sad story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested in this parlay today Navy game. It's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by it. Right, I can see it hitting

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Speaker 2: a couple of landmines. Right, there was like a lot

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Speaker 2: of mortal college ball. But NFL a couple of huge

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Speaker 2: matchups will weigh in next. Oh, what's going on? Everybody

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Speaker 2: lots to get to. We've got some college football still

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Speaker 2: on the agenda here, but let's turn our attention to

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Shall we huge NFL weekend? Week fourteen? Couple

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Speaker 2: of monster matchups? Tomorrow? We've got the Chiefs hosting the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Also have the Eagles at the Cowboys. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: the divisional matchup here?

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Speaker 3: Shall we?

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Speaker 2: Cowboys favored by three and a half. The total is

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Speaker 2: fifty two. The first thought I have is who's stopping who? Like,

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Speaker 2: who's stopping who? Ceedee Lamb went ballistic against Philly earlier

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Speaker 2: this season. Philly doesn't have an answer for the Dallas

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Speaker 2: wide receiver at all. And then you saw Philly last

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Speaker 2: week against San Francisco. Their defense is just not very

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Speaker 2: good right now. And then you also think about Dak

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Speaker 2: being a legitimate MVP candidate. Dallas's defense on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: They give up thirty five to Seattle last week, so

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Speaker 2: I would expect Jalen Hurtson company to do some damage.

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Speaker 2: Dallas Godder expected back the tight end. So I think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get a lot of offensive fireworks tomorrow in

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Speaker 2: this Eagles Dallas game.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know where to land on a side, so I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it's the easy way out or if

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Speaker 4: it's the smart way, but I'll take the over here.

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Speaker 4: I think the total is that fifty one and a half.

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Speaker 4: That's where I clocked it yesterday, and that feels good

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Speaker 4: to me. I think this is going to be a

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Speaker 4: high scoring affair. Weather's not going to be a factor.

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Speaker 4: We know they're playing an AT and T the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: They've got to show up offensively. They have to. There's

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Speaker 4: no excuse against this Dallas defense that can be got.

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Speaker 4: And they were against the Seattle Seahawks, and so seem

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Speaker 4: to be said about this this Philadelphia Eagles defense. At

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Speaker 4: times they look like world wreckers that we remember from

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Speaker 4: last year.

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Speaker 3: But there's more examples of.

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Speaker 4: Them getting tuned up pretty good, and so I think

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Speaker 4: this is just gonna be one of those shootouts, last

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Speaker 4: possession win style football games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think side in total here actually do intrigue me.

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Speaker 5: So the side it does look like if you like Dallas, wait,

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Speaker 5: you'll probably get a three at some point. I'm seeing

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Speaker 5: threes pop up already. I think betmgim currently trading three

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Speaker 5: and a half plus one hundred somewhere in that range.

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Speaker 5: Let me confirm right now. Yeah, plus it's plus three

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Speaker 5: and a half minus one fifteen. So I think if

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Speaker 5: you if you wait probably till Sunday, and you like Dallas,

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Speaker 5: I think a three will present itself for you. If

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00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 5: you like Philly, you should fee comfortable betting the three

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Speaker 5: and a half right now. I don't think this is

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Speaker 5: moving to four, just based off of the narrow window

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Speaker 5: this game's being traded in all week. We haven't seen

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Speaker 5: anything besides three or three and a half pretty much.

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Speaker 1: The entire week.

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Speaker 5: The total I'm actually a little bit surprised we haven't

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Speaker 5: seen a little more of a tick up. That's scaring

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Speaker 5: me a little bit because I do like the over

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 1: Right now, BETEMG.

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Speaker 5: I'm currently giving you a fifty two. I think that's

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Speaker 5: a fair number to bet the over. That's not a

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Speaker 5: key number in terms of NFL totals, fifty one is.

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Speaker 5: So if this drops down to fifty one, well then

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Speaker 5: that's gonna be the low point right there. In terms

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Speaker 5: of the handicap of the game. Yeah, I agree that

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Speaker 5: the fireworks should should definitely be part.

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Speaker 1: Of this equation.

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Speaker 5: You look at what Gino Smith did to this Cowboys

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Speaker 5: secondary last week. I think Dallas Goddter coming back for

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Speaker 5: Philly is huge, and I think the MVP trophy is

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Speaker 5: squarely in the sights of the winner of this one.

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Speaker 5: I know Jalen Hurts has taken a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a hit with his numbers, and Brock Purty right now

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Speaker 5: is actually the favorite, I believe, with Hurtz and Dak

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Speaker 5: and a couple of other guys kind of in that

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Speaker 5: second third chair. But if Dak puts on a big

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Speaker 5: performance at home, he'll be the MVP come Unday. And

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Speaker 5: if Dallas wins this game, so again, I think there

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Speaker 5: is a lot of opportunity for over money to come

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Speaker 5: in and Cowboys money at three. So that's how I'm

875
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: playing it Dallas at three and over fifty one and

876
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 5: a half preferable if you can find it.

877
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: A fifty two I think is fair as well.

878
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: Man, it's a lot on the line. And this is

879
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: the thing too, is the Eagles would basically wrap up

880
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: the division if they can win this game. Dallas would

881
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: take a sizeable step forward. If they're able to win,

882
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: they would each have the same record, but Philly would

883
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: still remain on top because they have a better record

884
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: in the conference, right they would split head to head.

885
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Should Dallas win, Eagles would still have a better conference record,

886
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: so Philly would still be leading the division, but it'd

887
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: be by a slim margin at that point. So a

888
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: monster game really for both teams, more so for Dallas.

889
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: And that's the thing Dallas. They were right there on

890
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: the road against the Eagles a couple of weeks ago,

891
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: and then Dak going for the two point conversion. Is

892
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: he did the KD. Remember when KD stepped on the

893
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: three point line against the Bucks. That's what Dak did

894
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: along the sideline right.

895
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: There, Pinky nail man.

896
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: And then the.

897
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: Next thing you know, they're inside the ten with the

898
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: chances score a touchdown. Then there's a penalty and they're

899
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: backed up to about the twenty seven yard line and

900
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: having the Minnie Hail Marriott. It was just a crazy game,

901
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: but Dallas was right there. Dak played great about three

902
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty yards passing last time, but when it

903
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: came down to it, he didn't make the big play.

904
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: He stepped out of bounds. They couldn't get it into

905
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: the end zone at the very end there. So I

906
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: want to see if it's a close game this time,

907
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: if Dak, who has had a great, great season, he's

908
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: a legitimate MVP candidate, can he make the huge plays

909
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: when the game is on the line, because it was

910
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: right there last time in Philly and he didn't come through.

911
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: Right right, you know.

912
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: I you know, going back to some of the offense

913
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 4: that I expect to see out of this game. I'm

914
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 4: excited to see how this game it really tracks because

915
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 4: if you look at what the Eagles have done over

916
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: the course of their season so far, when they've needed

917
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: a score points, they've been able to Outside of the

918
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: forty nine ers, Frankly, I mean, that's really the only

919
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: time that they've been stifled that much. Maybe the Jets

920
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 4: early in the season. I remember that being a low

921
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: scoring game and a loss also. But yeah, let me

922
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: pull up this schedule. Actually, yeah, thirty eight thirty eight

923
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 4: against the Commanders. That's four games ago, twenty eight in

924
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: the win over the Cowboys twenty eight to three final there,

925
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: twenty one to seventeen Chiefs, thirty seven to thirty four

926
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 4: against that Bills team.

927
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: You know.

928
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 4: So I think that they have the capabilities to put

929
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: up points and Dallas' defense, like we know, can be had.

930
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: And then you look at the Philadelphia defense.

931
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: It's a red hot Cowboys offense scoring thirty two and

932
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 4: a half points per game. And then on top of it,

933
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 4: this Eagles defense has given up four hundred plus yards

934
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 4: in four of its past five outings. They only did

935
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: that once in twenty games including the postseason last year.

936
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: So this Eagles defense is completely different.

937
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: Don't don't you know fall into this this thought process,

938
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: you know, because you see the green jerseys and you

939
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: remember Draft Day and what they did a year ago

940
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: that they're the same defense. They're not this This Philadelphia

941
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: Eagles defense is struggling this year.

942
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's so many reasons to bet a

943
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 5: over in a game. I think when you look at

944
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: all of the intangibles here, like Philly's converting every third

945
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 5: and fourth and one, so.

946
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: Every drive stays alive.

947
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 5: I love betting overs in their games because they rarely

948
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 5: punt because of that element of the of the the

949
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 5: brotherly shove. And I think you look at Dallas's offense,

950
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 5: they know that this is a game. This is a

951
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 5: put up or shut up kind of game, like this

952
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 5: is we need to see the best of deck, and

953
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 5: maybe we don't, but I'm betting on that we do

954
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 5: because of all the things that you guys just mentioned

955
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: about the defenses.

956
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: Here's the flying the ointment.

957
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: Here's the wrinkle.

958
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: The referee in this game, John Hussey.

959
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 5: The Eagles are seven and oher with him one and

960
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 5: oh on the road, and usually he's a home field

961
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 5: ref based on some of the numbers I'm seeing, But

962
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 5: the officials these days have a little bit more impact

963
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 5: on the game than maybe we would like.

964
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Go watch that Monday night game between the Chiefs and

965
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: the Packers and tell me that or the Sunday night game.

966
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: Excuse me and tell me.

967
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 5: That the referees don't have a massive edge in controlling

968
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: the outcomes here.

969
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: So just something to keep in mind.

970
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: That the Eagles have the referee advantage in this game

971
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 5: based off of what the statistics say about John Hussey

972
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 5: officiating Eagles games in the past. Again, that is an outlier.

973
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 5: That is a random statistic that I just like to

974
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 5: throw in there sometimes because, yeah, the other than the

975
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: players on the field, guys, right, the zebras have the

976
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 5: most impact on what we watch usually on.

977
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: Some Well, you mentioned the Chiefs, and that goes right

978
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: into the other game we want to talk about right here,

979
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: Bills against the Chiefs. Chief's only a one point favorite

980
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: at home, and a lot of that has to do

981
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: with what you're mentioning, Jared not beating the Packers on

982
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: Sunday Night football standalone nationally televised game and see Patrick

983
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: Mahomes and the Chiefs offense look a little And now

984
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs only favored by one against the six and

985
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: six Bills, which is very interesting. I want to throw

986
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: this at you guys. Okay, if we look at the

987
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: Bills last week, they came close to beating the Eagles.

988
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: It's an overtime game didn't go their way. Is this

989
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: more of a good sign for Buffalo or a bad

990
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: sign for Buffalo going forward? What happened last week. Okay,

991
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: so the Bills, they became the fortieth team since the

992
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy merger to have five hundred yards, ten third

993
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: down conversions and a positive turnover margin in a game.

994
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: They're the first team to lose that game. So you

995
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: could look at it class half full and say, hey,

996
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: five hundred yards, we're converting on third down. The offense

997
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: is starting to click. This is a good sign against

998
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Or you could look at it and say, yeah,

999
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: with all that they still lost, they find ways to lose.

1000
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 2: Is that more of a good sign or a bad

1001
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: sign going forward for Buffalo?

1002
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1003
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 4: I mean you don't want to lose those games. You

1004
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: don't want to lose those games. And there's you know,

1005
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: if you start digging in, you figure out the reasons why.

1006
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: And as efficient as this offense was and as good

1007
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: as the Bills looked, and I mean in every statistical

1008
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: category too.

1009
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: You know, they held the ball.

1010
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: Forty minutes in that game, forty and a half that

1011
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 4: was their time of possession in that game. I mean

1012
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: it's just like you start to look at all these

1013
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 4: numbers and you say, well, how did they lose? Well,

1014
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 4: they were penalized eleven times. You know that it matters.

1015
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: Those are drive killers, you know, when you try to

1016
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 4: circle one aspect of the game. You know, four or

1017
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 4: five in the red zone. Great, you know you mentioned

1018
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: all the conversions. Great, but they were penalized eleven times

1019
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 4: to the Philadelphia Eagles four.

1020
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 3: The Eagles just.

1021
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 4: They played a cleaner game in the one aspect where

1022
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: they needed to.

1023
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: The Eagles even turned the ball over one more time

1024
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: than the Bills did. I mean, this was just as.

1025
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: Perfect of a game as you possibly could have lost.

1026
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 4: But you have to shore that up. If you don't,

1027
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: especially if you get close to or over ten penalties

1028
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 4: in a game, it's just too sloppy. And those again,

1029
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 4: you know, some of those penalties are subjective, you know,

1030
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: pass interference, holding, You know, you could argue that there's

1031
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: those type of fouls on every single play, but some

1032
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: of them are pre snap penalties, and those are the

1033
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: mental errors you absolutely need to clean up otherwise you're

1034
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: not going to be a playoff team.

1035
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 5: Did you guys see the article that came out this

1036
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 5: week about Sean McDermott.

1037
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forget the name of the writers, eluding me.

1038
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: He's a Buffalo.

1039
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: Oh, Tyler Dunn.

1040
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I want to make sure you

1041
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: give them credit. First of all, is a very well

1042
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: done article.

1043
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: He put a lot of back end work into it,

1044
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: interviewing a lot of coaches and former players that have

1045
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 5: been a McDermott and that franchise for the last decade

1046
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 5: or so that he's been.

1047
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: Under the helm or at the helm.

1048
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 5: I think when I read that article, it made me

1049
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 5: think of two things. One, man, he's got to come

1050
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 5: up with some better speech material. Secondly, it made me

1051
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: really question ever backing them in a big game ever

1052
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 5: again because and it's not because of the quarterback. I

1053
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 5: think the world of Josh Allen. I think he's a

1054
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: talent that will, you know, go on in history as

1055
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 5: one of the better quarterback talents we've seen. But it's

1056
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 5: all about mentality, right and Rich I'm sure you could

1057
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 5: speak to this more than me because I've never been

1058
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: on the sidelines in a big NFL game with a

1059
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 5: lot on the line. But if the coach is panicked

1060
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 5: and a little bit unsettled with the decisions he's making,

1061
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 5: that bleeds through to the rest of the team. And

1062
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 5: that is what I took away from that article is

1063
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 5: that Shawn McDermott just doesn't have the ability to raise

1064
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 5: his level when the stakes are highest. We say that

1065
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 5: about Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and the Chiefs all

1066
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 5: the time. They have that ability. I think the Eagles

1067
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 5: have that ability to flip the switch when the stakes

1068
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: are higher to play their best ball. I don't think

1069
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 5: the Bills have that ability. I think anytime they get

1070
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 5: pushed and challenged, they are a scared football team. Based

1071
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 5: off of the things that I read that go on

1072
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 5: on the sidelines, I think there's a lot of finger

1073
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 5: pointing going on in the Bills right now. I think

1074
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 5: there's a lot of anger and uncertainty, and the guy

1075
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 5: at the top of the food chain, Sean McDermott, doesn't

1076
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 5: have things calm and settled, and it's impossible for me

1077
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 5: to even consider betting the Bills in this spot based

1078
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 5: off of what I read in that article this week.

1079
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: Right, and if you missed it, this goes back to

1080
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: what the twenty nineteen season, yehret where Sean McDermott was

1081
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: talking to the team and he was trying to give

1082
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: an example about how much communicating matters like as a

1083
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: football team and His example was the terrorists coordinating the

1084
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: nine to eleven attack, and that's what he went with a.

1085
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: Very inexcusable, frankly and inexcusable speech at that time.

1086
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: Right, So that's what he went with. It resurfaced this

1087
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: week the Bills were putting out those fires, and so

1088
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: I hear you, Jared. I absolutely understand where you're coming

1089
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: from on that. And the Bills have faltered in big

1090
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: spots before as well. And then you also think about this,

1091
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: they've had to deal with that this week on top

1092
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Speaker 2: of preparing for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs fresh off

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00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: of a Sunday night football loss. Right, So both of

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00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: those things combined not great for Buffalo.

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00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: No No.

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Speaker 4: And to remark on both of those things, as a

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00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 4: New Yorker born in raised, it's it's inexcusable to use

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00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 4: one of.

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Speaker 3: The most.

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00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 4: All the largest loss of life in terms of terrorist

1101
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: attack on this country as an example of teamwork, like

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00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 4: we could. We could probably vet that story and have

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00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 4: that die in a in a coach's office somewhere, you know,

1104
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: with I don't know, a trusted advisor where they go.

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00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: You're really gonna you're really.

1106
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 4: Gonna say that in front of the team, like maybe

1107
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: we should maybe we should talk about I don't know,

1108
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 4: maybe like how Apple launched the iPhone instead anything else?

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00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything else besides that. Yeah, let's talk.

1110
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 4: About like you know, I don't know anything you use

1111
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 4: the little engine, talk.

1112
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 5: About Paul Patrol, talk about any literally.

1113
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 3: Anything anything else.

1114
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 4: But but then going back and when when things are

1115
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: going bad, they almost always go get worse, Like the

1116
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 4: big expos's don't come out when things are going real well,

1117
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 4: and the reason is because they don't have any steam.

1118
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to hear how bad of a coach a

1119
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: coach is when he's an eleven win coach week fourteen,

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00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: Week fifteen of the season, because guess what, the fan

1121
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 4: base doesn't buy it. Nobody cares. So this was a

1122
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 4: timely release of this article, and I don't listen. I

1123
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: give no demerits to Tyler Dunn. He's an investigative journalist.

1124
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 4: He did his work, like you said, Jared put in

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00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: a ton of front end research before releasing this, and

1126
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 4: I trust the fact that he went through many gatekeepers

1127
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 4: of this information before releasing such an article, and nobody

1128
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: refuted it. Sean McDermott apologized for it, So there you

1129
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: have it. But this article doesn't get released if this

1130
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: team is in six and six and they had to

1131
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 4: fire their offensive coordinator this season. So when it rains,

1132
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: it pours, and right now it's pouring in Buffalo. And

1133
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: the only thing that makes things like this better are wins.

1134
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter how pretty. It's a results driven industry.

1135
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: Style points don't matter because it doesn't matter how many

1136
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 4: fourth and third down conversions you get and how many

1137
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 4: yards you pile up.

1138
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: In a loss to Philadelphia, it's still a loss.

1139
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 4: So they got to get a win against the Chiefs

1140
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 4: otherwise things are gonna spiral for them.

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00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'll be honest, I love how you broke

1142
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 5: that down because the market agrees with your sentiment.

1143
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: The move has been on Buffalo this week.

1144
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 5: Now, trankles out, there's the green dot linebacker for Kansas City.

1145
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: P Check goes out.

1146
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 5: He's obviously been a really productive running back for them.

1147
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 5: So there's some issues on both sides of the ball

1148
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 5: for KC. And let's be honest, it hasn't been a

1149
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 5: very fruitful season for them either. I mean, they've had

1150
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 5: their ups and downs, especially on offense. I think defensively,

1151
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 5: there's still a really strong side. But as I just mentioned,

1152
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 5: their best linebacker, the guy that calls the plays and the.

1153
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: Signals, is not going to play this week.

1154
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: So how's that going to affect defending Josh Allen who

1155
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 5: usually brings his legs and his big boy lunch paal

1156
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 5: to these big games. And I want Buffalo to overcome

1157
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 5: this adversity. It's not a personal bias against the Bills.

1158
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 5: I really love Josh Allen as a quarterback. I think

1159
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 5: they have a high upside when they're all clicking at

1160
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 5: all in sync, but we haven't seen it this year.

1161
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 5: And the Leslie Fraser thing, like I was really befuddled.

1162
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 5: That was a big reason why I was unsure on

1163
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 5: the Bills this year. Guys, they were aging a little

1164
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 5: bit defensively, Poyer and the safeties in the back, and

1165
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, Leslie Fraser resigns after the season,

1166
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 5: and now we know why because he got the finger

1167
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 5: pointed at him so many times by Sean mcdermoty said

1168
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 5: enough is enough.

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00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm done with this, and it's.

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Speaker 5: Just it's really hard for me to believe that this

1171
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 5: team is going to come together. If they do This

1172
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 5: is a great story and they overcame that adversity.

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Speaker 1: But man, this is a tough spot off a loss

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00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs.

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 5: Mahome sixteen and three straight up three and zero this

1176
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 5: year ats as well. It just it feels like a

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 5: good spot to back case. But to your point, this

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00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 5: is one of those adversity moments that maybe the Bills

1179
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 5: overcome it and regain that championship for.

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Speaker 2: For the last five weeks. Last the little nugget the

1181
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: Chiefs defense last against the run by Dvoa. So see

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: if James Cook can get going, and like you said, Jared,

1183
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, they take the training wheels off Josh Allen

1184
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: when it comes to a high stakes game, he runs

1185
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,360
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1186
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Speaker 2: Good morning man. I picture you just a pig in

1219
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 2: FCS playoff slop last night?

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Speaker 3: Right? Huh?

1221
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: We had over t I'm between Montana and Furman. We

1222
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: got three games today, it's down to the Elite eight.

1223
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Speaker 2: Do you have any FCS playoff picks for us today?

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Speaker 9: Breakingly back, guys, Yeah, great game last night, but I

1225
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 9: mean yeah, we have a whole swed college hoops today

1226
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 9: who could possibly be thinking of FCS football. But if

1227
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 9: I have to make a pick, I think I like

1228
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 9: Idaho minus three and a half of minus four, depending

1229
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 9: on where you can get it. I love that against

1230
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 9: all but a long, long, boring trip out for Albany

1231
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 9: going out there. It's a playoff game. But I think

1232
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 9: Idaho gets it done in the Dome.

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01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we thought that for Furman last night too, going

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01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 5: all the way to Montana.

1235
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: Uh and that game was absolutely wild.

1236
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 5: If you're not watching the FCS playoffs, guys, I'm sorry,

1237
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 5: but these games are fantastic and I'll give you a

1238
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 5: pick during our rapid fire segment later for more of

1239
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 5: these games. But all right, let's get into the big boys,

1240
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 5: because I think when the line opened it was funny Seamus,

1241
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 5: when I was watching Michigan's reaction to them announcing Alabama

1242
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 5: in's out of Florida state in the game, like you saw,

1243
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the Michigan players are like, oh no,

1244
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 5: and we've seen a little bit of early money on Alabama.

1245
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: It looks like this line is about as tight as

1246
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: it gets.

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01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 5: What are you seeing in the Rose Bowl in a

1248
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 5: few weeks between these teams and the FCS or the CFP.

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01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Excuse me?

1250
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 9: You know, if you take a magnifying glass and you

1251
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 9: look in that room in Michigan, you can probably see

1252
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 9: me also groaning seeing Alabama's name come up with our

1253
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 9: giant futures livebiliy Onbama to win the National Championship. But yeah,

1254
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 9: like you said, it's a lot of Alabama money coming in,

1255
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 9: and I like, I kind of had a hunch this

1256
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 9: would happen. We hung two and a half at the

1257
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 9: open and got down to the one and a half

1258
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 9: we're at right now, and yeah, I mean, we're going

1259
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 9: to need anyone playing Alabama in these playoffs, Michigan especially,

1260
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 9: It's gonna be a colossal handles. It's funny. I was

1261
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 9: talking to someone earlier this week about, you know, Florida

1262
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 9: State getting left. I was like, as a football as

1263
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 9: a fan of the sport, I thought Florida States deserved

1264
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 9: to get in. But as a book maker, this is

1265
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 9: an awesome plate for us, these playoffs album in Michigan

1266
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 9: and Washington, Texas. And can't ask for more as a bookmaker.

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Speaker 3: All Right, So listen, I mean really and honestly, we can.

1268
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: We can.

1269
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 4: We can talk about this outside the realm of any

1270
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories because if this was results based, Florida State

1271
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 4: as a conference champion and an undefeated team would be

1272
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 4: in the playoffs.

1273
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: So there's a reason why they're not. We were talking.

1274
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: About this earlier, Seamus, and my prevailing thought is viewership

1275
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 4: and network ratings. But you open up a new door

1276
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: to this conversation betting handle. I mean, in your opinion,

1277
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 4: when the committee met, was that discussed, Like you know,

1278
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 4: again this subjectively. Do you think like this comes up

1279
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 4: into the calculus to announce this slate of games because

1280
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: you just mentioned Alabama's got tons of people coming.

1281
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: To the window.

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Speaker 9: I don't think stuff like betting handled is something the

1283
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 9: committee would think about. But like Nick Saban when they

1284
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 9: got left that last year, brought up that they'd be

1285
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 9: favored over every team in the playoffs last year. That

1286
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 9: was in so I think that matters. I think that's

1287
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 9: what they think about. But as far as conspiracy theory goes,

1288
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 9: we can end all the conspiracies. I mean, this is

1289
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 9: an SEC bias. It's the SEC, Michigan and Ohio State.

1290
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 9: That's what it is. That's all they care about. You

1291
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 9: tell me if JJ McCarthy was injure from Michigan, they're

1292
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 9: getting left out. I think it's a complete show. I mean,

1293
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 9: they schedule harder games, they go out of the way

1294
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 9: to make this and the SEC gets the benefit of

1295
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 9: the doubt with this. In my opinion, who is the

1296
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 9: SEC's best out of conference win this year? Louisville. They

1297
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 9: went under five hundred out of conference under five learning.

1298
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 9: It's the ECC. I mean, I could go on all

1299
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 9: day about this, and then they ran them fifth over

1300
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 9: Georgia and Ohio State. It makes no sense. Its absolutely

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01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 9: no sense.

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Speaker 2: He's Seamus McGee from BETMG joining us here on countdown

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Speaker 2: to kickoff. So I want to turn your attention to

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Speaker 2: the NFL slate right, A couple of huge matchups, Chiefs

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Speaker 2: hosting the Bills, Eagles at the Cowboys. Either of those

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Speaker 2: games are anything else on the board. What intrigues you

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Speaker 2: the most about this weekend in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: I think the.

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Speaker 9: Total action we've gotten this week is all over the place.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of wind activity, a lot of weapons,

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Speaker 9: So I think we're gonna I think we'll probably end

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Speaker 9: up neeeding some overs, which has latly been the case

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Speaker 9: with a lot of people backing unders, especially in prime time.

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Speaker 9: But I think that that Eagles Cowboys game is going

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Speaker 9: to be It's probably our most game of the year.

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Speaker 9: There are two highest set teams so far this year,

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Speaker 9: and the money's coming in for Dallas. I think the

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Speaker 9: tides really turning on with vetters on Philly We're gonna

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Speaker 9: need Philly in the worst way on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: I think, wow, And that's saying something considering in the

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Speaker 5: beginning of the year it was like the exact opposite.

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Speaker 5: I want to go back to the Bama Michigan game

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Speaker 5: one more time. Shame is because the way that you

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Speaker 5: framed it, with Alabama being such a big liability for

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Speaker 5: the book, will that and I think I know the answer,

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Speaker 5: but I want you to explain it to the audience.

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Speaker 5: That will impact the game line as well, not just

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Speaker 5: the fact that you know Alabama is the big liability

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Speaker 5: when in the National title because of that, you're getting

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Speaker 5: a better bet you would think on Michigan in the

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Speaker 5: game against the Tide.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean usually we try not to book around liability.

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Speaker 9: This maybe it's different when I think, I think if

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Speaker 9: they make the championship game, you may see maybe you'll

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Speaker 9: have a different number.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Really, we like to book the around the shop money

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Speaker 9: and if we're in line with what the sharps are betting,

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Speaker 9: then we feel all comfortable. If they get to the

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Speaker 9: championship game, that's where you may see a different story.

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Speaker 4: Though, Okay, fair enough, I know this is countdown to

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Speaker 4: kick off, but it's also countdown to tip off.

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Speaker 3: The NBA Cup is coming up tonight. Oh yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I'll give you a second.

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Speaker 4: I'll vamp for a moment to discuss this tournament while

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Speaker 4: you open your NBA screen because I'm curious. I'm curious

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Speaker 4: about this. Like, so, I loved the knockout stage. I

1348
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Speaker 4: gotta be honest with you. I hated the group play stage.

1349
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Speaker 4: I thought it didn't work at all. In fact, players

1350
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 4: didn't even know when these group play stage.

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Speaker 3: Games were happening.

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Speaker 4: And then you get to the knockout stage and you're like, oh, okay,

1353
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Speaker 4: like these these guys seem.

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Speaker 3: To actually care, like they're actually playing basketball. This is cool.

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Speaker 4: And then uh, and then obviously you get some juice

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Speaker 4: with Lebron in the finals against the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming it. I'm assuming the line.

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Speaker 4: Share of the handle has been on the Lakers, but

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm asking you where's the money at

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Speaker 4: Has there been line movement? What does it look like

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Speaker 4: if you're interested in betting on the NBA Cup tonight.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So it's a passers game, So everyone and their mother's

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Speaker 9: betting the over in the game. We are taking a

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 9: lot of Laker's money, as we usually do. I mean,

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Speaker 9: we opened this line at three and a half, moved

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Speaker 9: to four and a half with some juice, so not

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Speaker 9: terribly sharp action, but yeah, it's it was really fun

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Speaker 9: to see this here. I'm a big soccer fan, so

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Speaker 9: I have like four different tournaments I watch in Europe,

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Speaker 9: so I in turn was nothing near to me. I

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Speaker 9: loved the group stage. I thought it was hilarious. Nobody

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Speaker 9: knew what was going on.

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Speaker 2: We got these weird courts and what.

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Speaker 9: We're going We're going by point difference and not head

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Speaker 9: to head wins. I love it. Welcome to my world

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Speaker 9: and soccer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, Sam as well, Hey man, thanks

1379
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Speaker 2: for the time as always and hope you have a

1380
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: great weekend.

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Speaker 9: Thank you guys.

1382
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Speaker 2: There is Samus McGee, team lead of sports Trading at

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Speaker 2: This is like the US Olympic track team and running

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Speaker 2: the anchor leg as you just got handed. The but

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Speaker 2: us home man.

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Speaker 8: From heavy hitter to heavy hitter to another heavy hitter

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Speaker 8: because show hey, Otani has not decided Yet, however, fellas

1390
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Speaker 8: if you believe social media, and you shouldn't, there have

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Speaker 8: been numerous show Hey Otani sightings throughout North America This

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01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 8: morning alone, PJ tweeting and I quote just saw Sho

1393
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Speaker 8: Hey Otarani at Barnaby's in Havertown. He was swinging from

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Speaker 8: the ceiling fan, drinking a Miller Lite and singing, Fly

1395
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Speaker 8: Eagles Fly. Does this mean show Hey to the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes it does.

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Speaker 8: However, then there is John who posted my best friend's

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Speaker 8: sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows

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Speaker 8: this kid who's going with a girl who saw Otani

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01:08:53,680 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 8: passed out last night at thirty one flavors apparently rebounding

1401
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 8: quickly because Emily posted and I quote my daddy saw

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Speaker 8: show Hey Otani at Harris Teeter in South Carolina by

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Speaker 8: the shore. And finally, Raymond posting, I just saw Sho

1404
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Speaker 8: Hey Otani at the Burger King drive through getting breakfast

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01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 8: in West Plains, Missouri. Guess he's signing a ten year,

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Speaker 8: six hundred million dollar contract with our rec league team. Unquote,

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Speaker 8: very busy morning for show Heyo Tani. Meanwhile, the NFL

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh Steelers announced star pass rusher TJ. Watt is

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 8: in concussion protocol. ESPN reports Philadelphia Eagles head of security

1410
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 8: Doma de Sandro will not be permitted on the sideline

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01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 8: during tomorrow night's game at Dallas after his confrontation with

1412
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Speaker 8: the forty nine Ers Drake Greenlaw last week. Dessandra will

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Speaker 8: be able to be in the stadium and the locker room,

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01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 8: just not on the sideline. The NBA on Friday night,

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01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 8: the Chicago Bulls what at San Antonio one twenty one

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 8: to one twelve, despite Victor Webbin Yama's twenty one points

1417
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 8: and twenty rebounds, becoming the youngest player in NBA history

1418
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 8: to have a twenty twenty game. That sixteen consecutive losses

1419
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 8: for the Spurs. Meanwhile, the Detroit Pistons saw that and

1420
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 8: said hold my beer because they lost to Orlando won

1421
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 8: twenty three to ninety one. The Pistons now on a

1422
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 8: nineteen game losing streak. Fellas all yours.

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01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, I low man. It's it's a rough look

1424
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 2: with TJ. Watt Steelers rush end where he's in concussion protocol.

1425
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: You go back to Thursday night, took a knee to

1426
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 2: the head, at the very beginning of the game and

1427
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: got back in and now he's in concussion protocol. You

1428
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: also think about Hayden Hurst, the Carolina Panthers tight end

1429
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: the news this week he had post traumatic amnesia, so

1430
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: he couldn't remember anything about the Bears game or for

1431
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: about four hours after the Bears game a few weeks ago,

1432
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 2: and he got back in the game. So it's one

1433
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: of these deals where I realize it's not the easiest

1434
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: thing to diagnose concussion symptoms, but there's a bad look

1435
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 2: when there are numerous players who are diagnosed with concussions

1436
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: or in concussion protocol and got back out on the

1437
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: field in the same game they suffered that ian so

1438
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: kind of crazy when that comes together like that.

1439
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, look to be frank, the concussion protocol is guesswork.

1440
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 3: If you are I.

1441
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 4: Don't know, well tenured, or if you're just reading for

1442
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 4: the first time about the field of neurology or advanced

1443
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: medicine in terms of traumatic brain injury, you're gonna find

1444
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 4: out that there's very little known about how the brain

1445
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: works while it's in injury protocol or recovering from an injury.

1446
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 4: Because it's also vastly different from person to person. You know,

1447
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: when I was playing and guys were in concussion protocol,

1448
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 4: sometimes they would shut a guy down for the season,

1449
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 4: and sometimes they'd have a guy go right back out there.

1450
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 4: And it varied, It varied widely. It was widely subjective,

1451
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 4: and it still is, you know. And my last snap

1452
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 4: was in twenty fourteen, so that's nine years ago. So

1453
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 4: in a decade's time. Not a lot has been learned here, really,

1454
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 4: and they're trying their hardest to get to the bottom

1455
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 4: of this and to create a safer environment for these athletes.

1456
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 4: And I can tell you this based off the TJ.

1457
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: Watt stuff. I've had those instances where I for sure

1458
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 4: had a concussion and felt good enough to finish a game,

1459
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 4: and then woke up the next morning and went, whoah,

1460
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 4: that was a mistake, you know, And you just don't

1461
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 4: know because a night's sleep and all of a sudden

1462
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 4: you wake up feeling differently and maybe a little vertigo,

1463
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: maybe a little confusion, a little memory loss, or you know,

1464
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 4: some spots in your vision, whatever it may be, and

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 4: I'll shut you down for a week or a couple

1466
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 4: of weeks, depending on how severe the symptoms and how

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01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 4: fast they go away.

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Speaker 5: The optics of that did not look favorably on the Steelers.

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01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you watched the replay. It was clear as

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Speaker 5: they got punched in the face by I think it

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Speaker 5: was his own teammate's knee.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was Zeke. His own teammate

1473
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: tackled z and Zeke's knee just went damn.

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Speaker 5: I mean, but it was also like it was if

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 5: they were let's leave it at this, if they were

1476
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 5: replaying that in a boxing match, it would have been

1477
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Speaker 5: a TKO. I mean, it was square right to the

1478
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 5: jaw and TJ was out that when that happens, and

1479
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Speaker 5: I know these guys are as tough as it gets,

1480
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 5: I'd probably be on the floor for a week, but

1481
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 5: these guys get right back up and it's like nothing.

1482
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: But I mean the optics of that right, like it

1483
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 5: looked like a concussion, Like his jaw was like moving

1484
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 5: sideways when he got smacked around. So yeah, I don't

1485
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 5: know enough about the medical side of it, like you know,

1486
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Speaker 5: Rich has been you know, between the lines there, but

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Speaker 5: it didn't look good from where I was sitting, that's

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Speaker 5: for sure.

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Speaker 2: this right, prop it up player plays. Yes, the prop

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01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 2: bet market. Guys, you can go in any direction you

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Speaker 2: would like, College hoops, NBA, NFL, Army, Navy. We'll start

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Speaker 2: with you, Rich, What do you like?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I am all over the map.

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 4: Well, really, I'm focusing on two games first and foremost.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to say to Commissioner Silver, I don't love

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01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 4: the execution of the NBA Cup, but I like the

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 4: attempt and I do think the knockout stage works. Okay,

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 4: So Tyres Halperton twenty and a half points, I'm taking

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01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 4: the over. Austin Reeves on the other side of that

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01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 4: doc get fifteen points.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the over there.

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 4: Let's go to the NFL. Dak Prescott and Jellen Hurts.

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 4: I think both go off in that NFC showdown three

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01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 4: hundred and one and a half passing yards. I'm taking

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 4: the over on Dak Prescott Jellen Hurtz two fifty four

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 4: and a half. I'm taking the over there as well,

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 4: So all overs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Rich no stands for over.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Rich is really taking this three

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 5: and zero for a spin to see how lucky he

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01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 5: is this week?

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: All right, I'll keep it simple.

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01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 5: There's one that I really like, and I'm betting on

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01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 5: this number dropping before tomorrow.

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: So bet it right now. CJ.

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01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 5: Stroud under two fourteen and a half passing yards. So

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 5: no Tank Delle, no Dalton Schultz. I mean, those are

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 5: the two I would say, two of the best pass

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 5: catchers on his team. Indoor quarterback going outdoors. Rain and

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 5: win forecasted at MetLife Stadium right now. Of course, that

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01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 5: forecast could change for tomorrow. And also this is just

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01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 5: a Jets defense that doesn't give up a lot of

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 5: passing yards.

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01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: So all of those factors the wall for CJ's drowd.

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: We're seeing the.

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 5: Trend go downwards for his passing yards. We'll go under

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 5: for two fourteen and a half. CJ just drought tomorrow

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01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 5: against the Jets and met Life stadium.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, man, there's so many prop bets there.

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: I love, there's just so much going to ceedee lamb.

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how the Eagles slow him down. I'm

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01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 2: gonna give you a random one, though. I'm gonna go

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: with the uh, the Bengals. I'm gonna go with Joe Mixon.

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01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: They're running back over twenty one and a half receiving yards.

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01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: Because you think about Grover Stewart being back for that

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: Colts defensive line a lot better against the rush. I

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01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: think you swing it out to Joe Mixon. The short

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01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: quick passing game work last week. I think you do

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01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: that again. Give me Joe Mixon over twenty one and

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01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 2: a half receiving yards. Okay, we dive back into the

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01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: college football waters right around the corner. You know, I

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01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: like to be positive, guys, you know I like to

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01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: be positive. No over here, And I was thinking about this,

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01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: the college football playoff teams. Alabama gets in, Florida State

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01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: gets left out. Lot's been said about it. We'll say

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01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 2: some things here in a few minutes. But I was

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01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 2: just thinking, among all the chaos and all the disagreements

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01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 2: and all the beefs and all of that. My positive

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 2: spin is this season's chaos is the best situation for

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 2: next season's twelve team playoff, you know what I mean,

1576
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: because it becomes, oh, well, we won't have to worry

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01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: about this next season when we have twelve teams. You'd

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01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: have both Florida State and Alabama in there if this

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: was next year. So I think this is probably the

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Speaker 2: best thing that could happen for the new format beginning

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01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: next season. That's the best I can come up with.

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna make any Florida State fan any happier,

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01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: But in terms of college football as a whole, most

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: people go, well, we don't have to deal with this

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01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: fourteen business going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 4: I think if we're gonna look at this in terms

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 4: of something easy to digest, let's make a food comparison.

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Speaker 4: This year's college football Playoff is the appetizer to the

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01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 4: real playoff, or a much realer entree that is next

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 4: year's expanded College Playoff. This is look like all appetizers.

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 4: It's it's supposed to be a little amuse bouche. It's

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01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 4: supposed to be a little something to tickle the palette

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 4: as you get ready for the main course, this is

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01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 4: exactly what it has always been, which is a made

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01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: for TV reality television moment. Like everybody watched reality television

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 4: for the first time and they were like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, I can't believe they caught.

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01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 4: That on camera and they didn't realize that it was

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 4: all scripted. And I think that's how this started. In

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01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 4: college football, like everybody was like, oh, this playoff committee,

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01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 4: did they can consider this? Did they consider that? How

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01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 4: could they rank this team this low? And oh, they

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01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 4: better by the time the final four comes out?

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Speaker 3: Get this right.

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Speaker 4: They knew exactly what they were doing all along. They

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Speaker 4: knew that if they create controversy, if they create interest

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01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 4: and headlines based on you know, how low teams were

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Speaker 4: ranked or how high teams are ranked, or you know

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Speaker 4: what the selection process looks like, or maybe they would

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01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 4: allude to some of the things that they were doing

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01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 4: behind closed doors, but they would never tell you complete

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01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 4: stories about how teams were selected. It would just curry

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 4: more interest. And it's worked fantastically, And that's exactly what

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01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 4: an appetizer is supposed to do. It's supposed to get

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01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 4: you ready for the main dish. And so next year

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01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 4: we're going to have a taste of the entree. I

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01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 4: think it's going to be better. I think it's going

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01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: to be bigger. I think it's going to be more fun.

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01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 4: It's going to be juicier it But that's what this is.

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01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 4: This has all been a warm up course to the

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01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: main dish that is fire I know we served in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Yeah to We got a lot of pushback from some

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Speaker 5: viewers or some listeners about the SEC and the ACC

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 5: this year, and Seamus actually sorted it out pretty well.

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01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 5: The ACC has a better record against the SEC this year,

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01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 5: and the strength of schedule arguments and all of the

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01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,480
Speaker 5: things that, well, Florida State doesn't deserve this and ACC

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01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 5: doesn't deserve that. Sure, I think on the surface level

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01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 5: it's obvious that the SEC is a step ahead of

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Speaker 5: the ACC. But the ACC team won all their games

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01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 5: and the SEC team didn't like What is that worth?

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01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 3: Right?

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01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 5: And as we get into next year, there's going to

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01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 5: be another situation like this. It won't be as severe

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01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 5: because it won't be an undefeated Power five conference team.

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01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 5: Those teams going forward will always get in under this

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01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 5: new system, but there's going to be another team that

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 5: feels slighted, just like in March Madness the NCAA tournament.

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01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 5: On the basketball side, there's always a team. If it's

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 5: sixty eight teams, then the sixty nine team is going

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01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 5: to feel like they got slighted. If it's twelve teams,

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01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 5: the thirteen team is going to feel like they've got slighted.

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01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: There is always going to be this.

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01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 5: Level of drama, level of inclusion and exclusion, and it's

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 5: hard for us to say that this year was any

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01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 5: different than the prior years, where they're just trying to

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 5: do what's best for As Rich alluded to, the product,

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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 5: the brand, which is the best games possible. It's kind

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01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 5: of funny because I there were a lot of people

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01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 5: that didn't want TCU in it last year, and maybe

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01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 5: that was the lesson that the committee learned. People didn't

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01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 5: want TCU in because they lost their last game and

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01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 5: they were kind of a paper tiger for most of

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01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 5: the year. They won the semi final and shut up

1657
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 5: a lot of people, and then the final, as you

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01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 5: all know, was just one of the more one sided

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01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 5: games in college football playoff history, and maybe the committee's like, well,

1660
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 5: we don't want that in this year's college football championship.

1661
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 5: We want the teams that have the best chance of

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01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 5: being competitive. But I think when you did that, you

1663
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 5: kind of strip the integrity of this a little bit

1664
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 5: and we'll see where things move going forward.

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01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,839
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, to me, is the best example

1666
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: I could come up with to show how stupid this

1667
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: whole thing is. Imagine if two teams showed up to

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01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 2: play a game, and let's say it's Alabama in Florida State.

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01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 2: They show up to play each other, and before the

1670
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 2: game is kicks off, they say, hey, Alabama has more

1671
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: TikTok followers. Yeah, and they have higher ratings, so Alabama wins.

1672
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: I'll go home like it'd be like, wait, we got

1673
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: a game to play, Let's play the game and see

1674
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 2: who went. No, No, we don't need to play a game.

1675
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 2: Alabama is more popular, they win, have a safe drive

1676
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 2: home Like that makes no sense at all. And that's

1677
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: why I keep coming back to the results have to

1678
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 2: matter the most, and they don't. That's what sucks so

1679
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: much about this whole thing. And I think this too

1680
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: when it comes to Alabama, and this isn't too you know,

1681
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: just bash Alabama because they've had a fantastic season. We're

1682
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 2: splitting hairs here, but when you lose at home, that

1683
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: has to matter, and it didn't. And I think with

1684
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: Alabama getting in, if we're being really honest about this,

1685
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: it's not just about ratings. It's not just about what's

1686
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: a better TV product or who we think is one

1687
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: of the best four teams. A lot of it has

1688
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: to do with previous seasons and previous success. This is

1689
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: Alabama and Nick Saban and all the titles that they've

1690
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: won and all the cachet that they have. It's more

1691
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 2: about that than it is about the twenty twenty three season,

1692
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: and all of that just sucks. I hate all of it.

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01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 4: I it's anti sport what's been created here for all

1695
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 4: of us. We didn't ask for it. Nobody wanted a

1696
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 4: four team playoff. I mean it was I mean panned.

1697
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 4: It was panned out the gates. Everybody said, this is

1698
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 4: a bad idea. This is only going to create more

1699
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 4: controversy around a national champion. It's not going to make

1700
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 4: this any better, and it hasn't. In fact, I could

1701
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 4: argue it's potentially made the product worse. Now, is there

1702
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 4: more attention to the product, Yeah, But is attention always good.

1703
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you can make that argument in terms of

1704
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: dollars and cents, but in terms of what the actual

1705
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 4: product represents, now, I don't know. It doesn't pass the

1706
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 4: purity test. Now, again, this is a business, So I'm

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01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 4: not expecting business people to make moral decisions. That's not

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01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 4: what you're in business for. You're in business to make

1709
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 4: money for your shareholders or your network broadcast rights partners,

1710
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 4: or university presidents so that they can go build buildings

1711
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,839
Speaker 4: or you know, boost attendance at their universities, or conference

1712
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 4: commissioners and executives or head coaches who are the highest

1713
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 4: paid state employees. Like, this is all about dollars. So

1714
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 4: it's never about how we feel about it. It's never

1715
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 4: been about you know, the Johnny's and Joe's in the room,

1716
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 4: you know who have seminoles written across their chest.

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01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: All those people they're forgotten. This is about corporate sponsorships.

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01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 4: This is about making the most possible money that all

1719
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 4: of the the folks involved can possibly make.

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01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 3: And so again, if.

1721
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 4: We're gonna look at this as a business decision alone,

1722
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 4: they made the right choice. Because you heard Seamus mcgeeve

1723
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 4: and say it, all these sports books are in love

1724
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 4: with how many people are running to the window to

1725
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 4: bet on Alabama. And guess what all those Midwest betters

1726
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 4: I mean, are they backing Michigan?

1727
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 3: Are they fading Michigan.

1728
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 4: All I know is they're very controversial, and that's good

1729
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 4: for ratings, and that is good for sports books, and

1730
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 4: that's good for corporate sponsors.

1731
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 3: It's look, this is when you distill this down to

1732
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:10,759
Speaker 3: the root.

1733
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 4: Cause of why this happened and why the teams that

1734
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 4: were selected were selected.

1735
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: It all comes down to money.

1736
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 4: When they expand the playoff, I think it's gonna be better.

1737
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 4: I hope it's gonna be better. I'm not sure it's

1738
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 4: gonna be better, but but it almost undoubtedly will be

1739
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 4: better than four teams.

1740
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 5: It'll be different, that's for sure. Maybe difference good. Most

1741
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 5: people are afraid of change personally, I am not. I

1742
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 5: love change.

1743
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 1: I welcome it. That's where all the growth happens.

1744
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 5: I think when you well to your point too about Michigan.

1745
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 5: So bet MGMs, Michigan is like a stronghold, and we

1746
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 5: always see more skewed metrics come out of Michigan, meaning

1747
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 5: more like BETMGM usually has more liability towards teams from Michigan,

1748
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 5: the Lions, the Wolverines, et cetera, because of where the

1749
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 5: stronghold is and where a lot of the betters come from,

1750
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 5: so Michigan, and I mean, this is going to be

1751
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 5: an insane handle for that Michigan Alabama game. Plus it's

1752
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl. I mean, there's so many great things

1753
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 5: that are going to lead up to it. But to

1754
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 5: your point about the business of college football, I want

1755
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 5: to read your tweet from Brett McMurphy or the Action

1756
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 5: Network because this tweet kind of sums it up really well.

1757
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 5: There are thirty nine non playoff bowls. Only thirteen of

1758
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 5: the thirty nine did not have a team lose either

1759
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 5: its head coach, oc DC or starting quarterback to the

1760
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 5: transfer portal, opt out or injury. Only thirteen of the

1761
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 5: thirty nine non playoff bowl games have the battery, head coach,

1762
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 5: OCDC quarterback still intact from the regular season.

1763
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: Two thirds of the bowl games complete upheaval.

1764
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 5: From what we saw in the regular season, and it

1765
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 5: just speaks to what college football.

1766
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: Is right now.

1767
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 5: It is a year to year very much transfer portal,

1768
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 5: nil coaches, moving cities in flux sport and We just

1769
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 5: have to be comfortable right now with being uncomfortable.

1770
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: That's what college football is.

1771
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 5: It is a sport in transition, and I think there's

1772
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 5: no getting comfortable with what we're seeing in the college

1773
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 5: wall playoff, in the bowl landscape, and il transfer portal,

1774
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 5: all of it. Just be okay with being uncomfortable and

1775
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 5: expecting change because that is the normal right now in

1776
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 5: this sport.

1777
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 2: Well, I still think it comes back to the dollars

1778
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: in the sense here we all know that it's running

1779
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 2: on money, But I keep coming back to how much

1780
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: is enough for you? You know what I mean? Like

1781
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: we act like because Bama their cachet and their name,

1782
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: the ratings are gonna be bigger, the money's going to

1783
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 2: be greater. I get all of that. But would they

1784
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: be making like a dollar ninety five if Florida State

1785
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: was in there?

1786
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1787
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: Are they gonna go broke if Florida State was there?

1788
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: I get that it's about money, I understand that, but

1789
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,919
Speaker 2: I think oftentimes college football puts way too much focus

1790
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 2: on that. I know you could say, well, that's easy

1791
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: for you to say when you're not benefiting from it,

1792
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying they're still raking in

1793
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 2: the cash either way. So I don't know why you'd

1794
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: be so beholden to that. And I also come back

1795
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 2: to this, the whole Jordan Travis getting injured thing. Rich

1796
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: You said something and made me think about it. Where

1797
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 2: in the NFL could you imagine if the NFL did that.

1798
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 2: We're in the NFL playoffs. A team wins the game,

1799
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 2: but they lose their quarterback, and what like the next

1800
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 2: team in line, they just advanced to the next round

1801
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 2: because a team's quarterback is lost. That's crazy that it

1802
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: would never happen. And so that's why it's so weird

1803
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 2: with the rationale about Jordan Travis getting injured in Florida

1804
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 2: State not being there. And Jordan Travis even said he

1805
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: wished he had broken his leg earlier in a season

1806
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 2: so the committee could have seen that Florida State was

1807
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 2: a great team without him. Think about that too. Jordan

1808
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 2: Travis goes down, he was just making a play, he

1809
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: got hurt, didn't do anything wrong, and that's why Florida

1810
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 2: State's not in the playoff. That's ridiculous. So what are

1811
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 2: we to do? What if Jalen Milroe was the guy

1812
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: who got hurt instead, now Alabama's out. It's like it's

1813
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 2: a collision sport. It's a violet sport, and we're basing

1814
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 2: this based on who's healthy and who is it. It's

1815
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: crazy to me. The NFL playoffs don't work like that,

1816
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 2: and I think it's a joke that the college football

1817
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: playoff does work like that.

1818
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 4: It's a machine, and when the machine becomes more important

1819
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,600
Speaker 4: than the person, well, well that's when all of a

1820
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 4: sudden we have all these moral conundrums. And sometimes the

1821
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 4: machine is really efficient and it's really really amazing and

1822
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 4: it's changed life for the better. You know, you can

1823
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 4: make a lot of arguments for that. And this applies

1824
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 4: not only to sport but to life. You know, there

1825
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 4: are things that we all know potentially are just drawing

1826
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 4: other aspects of life, but they're so convenient for us

1827
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 4: we participate willingly because holy smokes.

1828
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I could have a coffee maker here by noon.

1829
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean great.

1830
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 4: You know, I don't need to get in the car

1831
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 4: and drive five minutes and spend money on gas. I

1832
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 4: could just sit in my bed and type something into

1833
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 4: my phone and then you know, by almost magic, something

1834
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 4: shows up for me.

1835
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 3: It's it's it's the way. It's the way life works.

1836
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 4: You know, when something works really well and there's enough

1837
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 4: people pushing for it to work better, eventually your feelings

1838
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 4: no longer matter. You know, Eventually all of the Jordan

1839
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 4: Travis is, who're gonna get trampled by this machine or

1840
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 4: chewed up by it don't matter because the machine is

1841
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:47,799
Speaker 4: just too powerful.

1842
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 3: And that's college football right now.

1843
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 4: It and and Jared said it right, get used to

1844
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 4: change because there's a lot more coming and I'm not

1845
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 4: sure it's going to be a comfy ride.

1846
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this is guys, we're in the set.

1847
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 5: I say this about sports being all the time, like

1848
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 5: there's so much change and the industry from when I

1849
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 5: first started doing the content thing in twenty nineteen to

1850
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:11,440
Speaker 5: now it's been four years, basically, it's already changed dramatically.

1851
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 5: And I keep telling people we're only in like the

1852
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 5: second or third inning of this. California, Texas, Florida just

1853
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 5: came online, legalized it, so there are so many more

1854
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 5: changes to come. To be upset that things are changing

1855
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 5: is not the right mindset. Be happy that at least

1856
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 5: there is going to be some change. Maybe that change

1857
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 5: is something you like, maybe it's not, but being upset

1858
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 5: that there is change is not, again, not the right mindset.

1859
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 5: You're gonna drive yourself insane. It's like getting mad that

1860
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 5: the grass is growing outside. There's nothing you can do

1861
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 5: to stop it. It is inevitable. This has become a

1862
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 5: big business. College football train has left the station. We

1863
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 5: are now chugging along the landscape, trying to figure out

1864
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 5: where this is gonna land.

1865
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't know where.

1866
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 5: I don't know how many teams is the right amount

1867
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 5: of teams? You know, everyone always that's a lot of pressure,

1868
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 5: always needing. People always come to me, what's the lock

1869
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 5: of the day. I have no idea what the correct

1870
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 5: answer is here. I am a passenger on the train,

1871
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 5: along for the ride, just like all of you. I'm

1872
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 5: a well informed passenger, but I'm a passenger and I'm

1873
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 5: just trying to wrap my head around what I saw

1874
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 5: last Saturday. And it was basically the committee telling us

1875
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 5: the games don't matter. We've already made up our mind

1876
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 5: who the best teams are, and as long as the

1877
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 5: games fit that narrative, it'll match what the results are.

1878
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 5: But we knew, like I bet, they could have set

1879
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 5: the playoff last Saturday. If they would have just told

1880
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 5: us Bama was going to be Georgia and everything else

1881
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 5: was the same, they could have set the playoff and

1882
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 5: not have played any of the other games. They already

1883
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 5: knew Washington was in, they already knew Michigan was in,

1884
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 5: and they already knew Bama was in.

1885
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: Once they beat Georgia, that was it. End of story.

1886
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 5: Florida State, it didn't matter if they won that game

1887
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 5: by one hundred last Saturday, they probably weren't getting in.

1888
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 5: And that is a shame that the games did not matter.

1889
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,920
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1896
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1897
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,080
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1898
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1899
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Speaker 3: All right?

1908
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 2: Can we get Army Navy for the one hundred and

1909
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 2: twenty fourth time today? My dad was in the Navy, so.

1910
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.

1911
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm always interested in this game.

1912
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna like my pick?

1913
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 5: Then?

1914
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 2: Oh really?

1915
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1916
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 2: Okay nice? How about this? This is crazy? So both

1917
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 2: teams are five and six, so hey, the winner, they

1918
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 2: get their sixth win, Bowl eligible, right, Nope, not so fast.

1919
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 2: So the bowl rules stipulate that both Army and Navy

1920
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: must have six wins by the time the bowl field

1921
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: is announced, and that happened on December third, nearly a

1922
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 2: week ago. So they don't have six wins there. Neither

1923
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 2: team's going bowling, so whoever wins today. It's like, you

1924
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 2: get to six and six, congratulations, no bowl for you,

1925
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 2: and one other thing I'll throw at you. This is

1926
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 2: a wild theory of mind. You tell me if I'm

1927
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 2: a crazy person or not. But could an NFL game

1928
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 2: what we saw on Thursday night incredible low total in

1929
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 2: the Patriots Steelers game. It was at thirty by time

1930
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 2: the game kicked off. They got to thirty one combined

1931
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: points in the first half. We weren't even at the

1932
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 2: two minute warning yet. And so I wonder if in

1933
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 2: the back of your head any betters are gonna say, man,

1934
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 2: you can get to thirty points almost by accident, even

1935
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 2: if it's Army Navy. I wonder if there will be

1936
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 2: a little bit of influence from the NFL game just

1937
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. Is that crazy or not?

1938
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 4: It's not crazy, But I try my hardest not to

1939
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 4: be influenced by other things I see, because you know,

1940
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 4: for every good example and reason you can find that

1941
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 4: you've recently watched, you can find one that supports the

1942
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 4: opposite side. You know, like, for example, what happened with Michigan, Iowa.

1943
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 4: You know, it just doesn't seem possible that thunder could hit,

1944
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 4: but you just knew it would and somehow I would

1945
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 4: decide I did not to score a single point. So

1946
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 4: it's it's it's really alluring this proposition. Where's the number

1947
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 4: out on bet MGM? Now is it at twenty eight?

1948
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 4: Twenty eight on the notes?

1949
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 5: And I'll say twenty eight is a dead number because

1950
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 5: it's not there's no way that four touchdowns are going

1951
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 5: to be scored in this game and nothing else. There's

1952
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 5: gonna be field goals, there's twenty eight. I wouldn't worry

1953
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 5: about the twenty eight. I'd feel comfortable betting over.

1954
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1955
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I although although I'll tell you right now, the

1956
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 4: unders singing to me, I don't know why, Yeah, but

1957
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 4: I know why? Well, yeah you do. Of course you

1958
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,520
Speaker 4: know why, because I how couldn't it not? It's exactly

1959
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 4: holy smoke. So yeah, I'm I'm expecting it to be

1960
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 4: dramatic like it always is, uh, pregame the popping circumstances.

1961
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 4: And and just to remark on something because I played

1962
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 4: at Gillette Stadium for three years while I was playing

1963
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 4: with the Patriots, and Belichick is a huge supporter of

1964
01:38:55,760 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 4: the military, these these games and and a football history and.

1965
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 3: His father was.

1966
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 4: He was coached at Navy YEP, exactly thirty four years

1967
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 4: and so all of these, all of these, uh, these

1968
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 4: buttons are being pressed today, like if you're if you're

1969
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 4: into the history of college football, like Jillette Stadium's a

1970
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 4: really good backdrop because of who Belichick is as a

1971
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 4: head coach of the Patriots and what he's done for

1972
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 4: military members who are trying to extend their professional playing careers.

1973
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 4: Every single season, I think, barring none, throughout his entire

1974
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,520
Speaker 4: head coaching career, he's had a member of the military

1975
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 4: on his active roster.

1976
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 5: I heard that both teams woke up very early this

1977
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 5: morning and they stole all the tea packets from their

1978
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 5: hotel room and chucked it into the Boston Harbor.

1979
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,440
Speaker 1: Just one last one, last.

1980
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 5: Boston tea party joke right before we uh, before we

1981
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 5: move forward to I think when you look.

1982
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 1: At this game, obviously everyone wants to bet under.

1983
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 5: That was the vibe last year under under under under,

1984
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 5: but the total matters here. So yeah, the under hitting

1985
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 5: sixteen straight games until last year went the double overtime

1986
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 5: game went over by I think a field goal or

1987
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 5: you know, less than a score. But the total, the

1988
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 5: average total in those sixteen games was forty seven and

1989
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 5: a half. So to say that a game has gone

1990
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 5: under this many consecutive years, you're kind of taking it

1991
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 5: out of context there, because yeah, it went under when

1992
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 5: the total was fifty and forty six and forty four,

1993
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 5: and then it kept going down and down and down,

1994
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 5: and finally last year we hit the bottom where it

1995
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 5: took a couple of fluky plays but the game went over.

1996
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 5: And now what do we get this year? Now the

1997
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 5: total's even lower. Last year was thirty two and a half,

1998
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 5: this year it's twenty eight. I will say that both

1999
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 5: offenses are explosive compared to last year. What I mean

2000
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 5: by that both Army and Navy averaged ten attempts per

2001
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,759
Speaker 5: game passing attempts per game last season. This year, Navy's

2002
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 5: up to fifteen, Armies up to fourteen. And I know

2003
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 5: that's not a lot of passing attempts, but it's a

2004
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 5: fifty percent increase year over year on the amount of

2005
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 5: times they are throwing the football everything ton Yeah, exactly,

2006
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 5: based on everything I've heard, these two offenses have a

2007
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 5: little more explosion this year, and they're not going to

2008
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 5: light the scoreboard up, but the total is twenty eight,

2009
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 5: and to Brian's initial point, it didn't take a whole

2010
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 5: lot of flukiness for the game on Thursday night to

2011
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 5: go over the total, and in the final bow on

2012
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 5: the Belichick point, he is a big Navy supporter. I

2013
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 5: heard he talked to the team yesterday and he will

2014
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 5: be on the sidelines today. Does that impact the game?

2015
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 5: Probably not, But I would certainly rather have Bill on

2016
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 5: my sidelines talking to the team before the game than not.

2017
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 5: So again, a lot of these little nuances about this game.

2018
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 5: I think Navy's got the better defense, Armies got the

2019
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 5: better offense.

2020
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: But twenty eight.

2021
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 5: I mean we're at the point now with these totals

2022
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 5: that if one weird play happens, throws off the whole pace.

2023
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 2: I just look at Man Navy the previous game against

2024
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: SMU lost fifty nine to fourteen. I'm just as far

2025
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: as like the total. Completely different opponent than than Army today,

2026
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: But just throwing it out there, some of these final

2027
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 2: scores against Air Force, Navy lost seventeen to six underwood

2028
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 2: hit there. Against East Carolina they won ten to nothing.

2029
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 2: Man Pirates, what are you doing? They're getting his shut

2030
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 2: out by Navy right there. They also maybe has another

2031
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 2: shutout win against Charlotte fourteen to nothing. So I don't know,

2032
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 2: just throwing a couple of finals out there as we're

2033
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 2: getting a sense of this game. You know, I'd like

2034
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,799
Speaker 2: to throw this out there as well, Isaac lowen Kron,

2035
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: you need someone to have their boots on the ground

2036
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 2: in terms of this whole Otani situation. He is there.

2037
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 2: He's there, and his fatigues and everything. He's doing the

2038
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 2: army crawl on the ground, not just his boots on

2039
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 2: the ground. I love with the latest tea.

2040
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 8: Uh fatigue is the key word. At this point. We're

2041
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 8: actually gonna begin with some non Otani news, some big

2042
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 8: news from college football. Oklahoma quarterback Dylan Gabriel is transferring

2043
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 8: two ore again. He announced that just moments ago, but

2044
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 8: indeed in Major League Baseball show Hey, Otani still has

2045
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 8: not decided yet. But fellas, here is the very latest

2046
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 8: bat bleep rumor that is infecting the social media as

2047
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 8: we speak. Stay with me here. Otani's translator with the

2048
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 8: Angels is a gentleman named Ipe Mitsuhara. Ipe Mitsuhara has

2049
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 8: an Instagram account devoted to his dog Leo. All Right,

2050
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 8: someone on social media claims that Mitsuhara inadvertently posted an

2051
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 8: Instagram story on his dog, Leo's Instagram account of Otani

2052
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 8: with the song by Train Calling All Angels playing in

2053
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 8: the background, only for the Instagram story to be deleted

2054
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 8: four minutes later. So that's where we are right now,

2055
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 8: the Instagram account of the of the dog Oti his

2056
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 8: dog's Instagram account, and meanwhile, the sho Heo Tani sidings

2057
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:14,440
Speaker 8: are continuing this morning throughout the land, Kurt tweeting quote,

2058
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 8: I just saw sho Heeo Tani at Seaport Deli in Satakot,

2059
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 8: New York.

2060
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: I've been there.

2061
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 8: Dude was crushing a hungry man and large iced tea.

2062
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 8: Surprised he didn't go with a Stephen Mattz hashtag Let's

2063
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 8: go Mets. You guys know what a Stephen Matts is?

2064
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 5: Okayandwich did? They created the year So Stephen Matts went

2065
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 5: to Stony Brook. I used to work on Long Island.

2066
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 5: I covered this story and Seaport Deli is right across

2067
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 5: from Stonybrook. When he got called up, they created a

2068
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 5: sandwich at the deli called the Steven Mass.

2069
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 8: So what would you go with the Steven Matts or

2070
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 8: a hungry.

2071
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Matts is pretty good. I'm a cutlet guy, though.

2072
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 8: So okay, so well. Staying in the Northeast, Dylan posted,

2073
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 8: just saw Otani at the Ie Hoop in Tewksbury, Massachusetts,

2074
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 8: so apparently Otani is very hungry today. And finally Derek posting,

2075
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 8: I just saw Otani at Pike Place Market. He caught

2076
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 8: a king salmon one handed without spilling his coffee and

2077
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 8: said soon I will be able to do this every

2078
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 8: day anyway. In the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steelers, an outstar

2079
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:20,799
Speaker 8: pass rusher TJ. Watt, is in concussion protocol. ESPN reported

2080
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 8: Eagles head of security Dom Desandro will not be permitted

2081
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 8: on the sideline during Sunday Nights game at Dallas after

2082
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 8: his confrontation last week with the forty nine Ers Dre

2083
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 8: Greenlaw Dessandra will be able to be in the stadium

2084
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 8: and the locker room, just not on the sideline. My

2085
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 8: descent into hysteria continues back to you guys.

2086
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 2: Thank you. I low man. I'll say real fast on

2087
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: the Otani thing. What Dave Roberts did this week, the

2088
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: manager of the Dodgers, Oh, I don't understand what you

2089
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 2: can get off. So Otani has made it very clear

2090
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 2: he wants no information out there. This is classified top secret.

2091
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 2: If they have any meetings, he doesn't want any details

2092
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 2: shared anywhere. And Dave Roberts, the Dodgers manager, was like, yeah,

2093
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 2: we met with Otani for two to three hours. It's like,

2094
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And for anyone who's like, well,

2095
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 2: what's the big deal? Ilo mentioned the dog. This goes

2096
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 2: back a couple of weeks ago when Otani was named MVP.

2097
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 2: He was sitting with his dog and so people reached out.

2098
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 2: We're like, hey, what's the dog's name, and through back

2099
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 2: channels word came back. Otani is not prepared to release

2100
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 2: the name of the dog. Like that's how buttoned up

2101
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 2: in private? This guy is so for Dave Roberts to

2102
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, we met with the guy, that's just

2103
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 2: it's not a smart movie. Can I don't know that

2104
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 2: the Dodgers chances, it's just not smart. It's not smart

2105
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 2: at all.

2106
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 5: I'm so like I I And this is coming from

2107
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 5: someone that went to journalism school and is likes to

2108
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,719
Speaker 5: consider himself a journalist. Can we just leave him alone

2109
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 5: and let him make the decision? Like, no, this session.

2110
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 5: This obsession with being first is ruining journalism. Like it's

2111
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 5: just it's smearing, and it happens all the time, Arson

2112
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 5: Judge last year with John Amen, like it happens every

2113
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 5: single year. Just leave these guys alone and let them

2114
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 5: announce their biggest decision of their lives whenever they're ready.

2115
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 5: It's just it bothers me to my core. But sorry, continue.

2116
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you know what the stunning conclusion of all

2117
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 4: of this is gonna be. He's going to land in

2118
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 4: relative obscurity playing for the Toronto Blue Jays and we're

2119
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 4: gonna only hear about him when he hits like milestones

2120
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:41,759
Speaker 4: with home runs.

2121
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 3: It's it's just unfortunate.

2122
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 4: But I think he's he's kind of a private person

2123
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,799
Speaker 4: and he likes to be sort of hidden away, tucked

2124
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 4: away so that people aren't talking about him a lot.

2125
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 4: And I think he's gonna be lured by a lower

2126
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 4: buzz franchise. That's that's my indice.

2127
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 3: I agree.

2128
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 8: Did you guys see the social media outpoorious though with

2129
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 8: Toronto and all that stuff, Well it was.

2130
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: It was it was getting out of Hannah had I

2131
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: think from it.

2132
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 8: I think that kind of removes the idea that he

2133
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 8: could go to Toronto and be anonymous.

2134
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, there you go.

2135
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 3: That's a good point there.

2136
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

2137
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Toronto is a big city.

2138
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 5: We don't realize because we're American biased, but Toronto is

2139
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 5: pretty international, Like it's a big city.

2140
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 2: Let me throw this out at you too, because we

2141
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 2: gotta we gotta get this out there. This is Meredith Whitney. Okay,

2142
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 2: she's a financial analyst. She was on a CNBC show.

2143
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 2: It's called Squawk on the Street. So she's on CNBC

2144
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 2: and she's got an interesting theory about sports betting. Okay,

2145
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 2: she's talking about young men and the impact it has

2146
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 2: negatively on dating. Check this out here. Let me know

2147
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 2: if you buy it at all.

2148
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 10: The negative impact is that it's all young men. And

2149
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,839
Speaker 10: I parallel that with our dovetail that with PW research

2150
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 10: which says that sixty three of young men are single,

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Speaker 10: and that's the highest it's ever been and fifty percent

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Speaker 10: of those young men have no interest in dating, not

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Speaker 10: even casually. And thirty percent of those men or thirty

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Speaker 10: percent of young men, so they have not had sex

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Speaker 10: in over a year and don't seem to care.

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Speaker 1: So the point you're getting pleasure out of sports getting.

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Speaker 3: And said.

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01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 2: There it's ruining these men. They don't even want to

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Speaker 2: hook up with women anymore. They're just too busy with parlays.

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Speaker 2: Here buy that. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

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01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. I mean, listen, here's the crazy thing. I don't.

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01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 4: I don't look for my sociological reporting from from investment bankers.

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01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 4: That's what Meredith Whitney does for a living. No offense

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Speaker 4: to Meredith. I mean, I have my opinions on you know,

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Speaker 4: sexuality in America too, but nobody cares what I think

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01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 4: because I'm a sports talk radio show host. So it's

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Speaker 4: it's just a bizarre statement on the health of the

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Speaker 4: men of the male aged. I don't know twenty five

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Speaker 4: to fifty five in the United States. I have no

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01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 4: idea why she was asked about her why she commented

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01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 4: on it, but I could say it's probably at best disagreeable,

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01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 4: at worst weird propaganda for some root end that may

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Speaker 4: be nefarious.

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01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:23,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's very st I'll tell.

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Speaker 1: You what it is. It's two things.

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Speaker 5: First of all, it's one of the most asinine theories

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01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 5: I've ever heard of my entire life. Secondly, I'm sure Meredith,

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01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 5: I don't know what hedge funder firm she works for.

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01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 5: I bet they have a whopper of a short position

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01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 5: on a ton of sports betting stocks.

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Speaker 3: Oppenheimer Holdings.

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Speaker 1: I bet.

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01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 5: I bet if you went in and dug into the

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01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 5: research on Oppenheimer Holdings, they are short every single sports

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01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 5: betting company.

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01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: Now, let me drop some facts on your Meredith. Meredith,

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01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: did you.

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01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 5: Know that women actually are the biggest growth market in

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01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 5: sports betting right now? More than four point six million

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01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 5: women joined sports betting apps in the last year. That

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01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 5: is a one hundred and fifty percent increase year over here.

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01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 5: So this whole idea that only men are sports betting

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01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 5: and it's ruining dating is completely asinine and has no

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01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 5: facts baked into it. If CNBC wants to actually have

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01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 5: a legit person on their air to talk about this topic,

2197
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 5: I have twenty years of experience being single and in

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01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:23,759
Speaker 5: sports betting.

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Speaker 1: Would be happy my dms are open CNBC.

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01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 2: I think it'd be funny if it just swung the

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01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 2: other way, where all these millions of women that are

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01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 2: betting are like, who needs a guy?

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01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 3: Why is it always men?

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01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Women are betting more than men these days. Like it

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01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 1: just made no sense to me.

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01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 5: I bet Meredith does not know that fact that I

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01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 5: just dropped. She probably has no idea that just as

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01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 5: many women are betting on sports as men these days.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

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01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 2: If you missed anything on today's show, be sure to

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01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 2: check it out. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

2212
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:01,839
Speaker 2: get your podcasts. Make sure you follow, rate and review

2213
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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 3: Again.

2215
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,879
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast

2216
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 2: you'll see the show posted right after we get off

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01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 2: the air. All right, We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State

2218
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: All American, Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst.

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01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: His dms are open, maryms are open. Women, and Meredith

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01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 1: please with me.

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01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No. Coming up next, picks to make rapid Fire.

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Speaker 2: You think a lack of college football is gonna slow

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01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 2: down rapid fire?

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01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 3: No, Surrey.

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01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 2: We got picks left and right, NFL, maybe some hoops

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01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 2: that's on the way. It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff,

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01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:40,759
Speaker 2: presented by BETMGM. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff,

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01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:44,799
Speaker 2: presented by Bett MGM. Props to the crew, Bo Benson,

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01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 2: trusted producer on pins and Needles with Otani Watch. Chris Purfett,

2230
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 2: technical producer on pins and needles with his Lions, heading

2231
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 2: to Chicago tomorrow. Isaac Lohenkron, also on pins and new

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01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 2: with Otani Watch, did a tremendous job as always today

2233
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 2: Top of the Hour up on game, LeVar Arrington, TJ.

2234
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 2: Hushman's out of Plaxico Burris loaded weekend here they'll be

2235
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 2: on top of all of it, especially the NFL in

2236
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 2: week fourteen. All right, we've got some picks to make.

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01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 6: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jared, We'll start with you. What are you thinking?

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Speaker 5: All right, let's start college basketball. I'll go Tennessee by

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01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 5: the way two and one last week twenty two and

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01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 5: twenty three for the season, and all of these lines

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01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 5: are available currently at that MGM College Troops Tennessee Illinois

2244
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 5: under one forty four and a half.

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01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 1: I project this game at one thirty three and a half.

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01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 5: Illinois coming off that huge win over Fau where they

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01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 5: scored ninety eight points. They shot seventy six percent from

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01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 5: the field. That game was an MSG. This game is

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01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 5: at Rocky Top where Tennessee excels at defense number two

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01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 5: in the country and Ken Foms adjusted defensive metrics. So

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01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 5: we'll go under one forty four and a half Tennessee, Illinois.

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01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 5: And how about North Dakota State. Maybe I told you

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01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 5: I got an f pick for you the Bison at

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01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 5: South Dakota today. I make this line ten. It's six

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01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 5: and a half.

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01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Love it under that key number.

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01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 5: North Dakota State went on the road last week beat

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01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 5: Montana State on a blocked extra point. They've been in

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01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 5: this title game or the title game for the last

2260
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 5: two years. I think they take another step closer to

2261
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 5: that this year and they go on the road, they

2262
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 5: beat South Dakota, will lay to six and a half

2263
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 5: for the Bison.

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01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 4: Okay, so rich oh stans for over. I took only

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01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 4: overs on our prop bet segment. I'm taking only overs

2266
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:32,839
Speaker 4: here on our rapid fire Army Navy. The point total

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01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 4: is twenty eight, and I like the over. Okay, So

2268
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 4: Army averaged over twenty points per game throughout their season.

2269
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 4: Navy just a shade below it. So I do think

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01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 4: that when these two teams meet, it is a little

2271
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 4: bit like a prize fight at first, A lot of

2272
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 4: feeling each other out, but I'm gonna take the over there.

2273
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 4: Eagles at Cowboys, it's an indoor situation. Both offenses have

2274
01:54:56,720 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 4: been in fuego, both defenses have been flamed. Fifty one

2275
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 4: and a half. Right now, that's come down a tick.

2276
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm taking the over there as well. This NFL weekend

2277
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 4: and tonight we've got the battle for the first ever

2278
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 4: NBA Cup and we know what that means. Points will

2279
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 4: be scored. The Pacers score in bunches. Haliburton can fill

2280
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 4: up the basket, so can ad and Lebron.

2281
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm taking the over.

2282
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 4: The total is at two forty three and a half.

2283
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 4: I still think they surpass it. So that's my Week

2284
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 4: fifteen rapid fire for you.

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01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got my eyes on the NFL. Give me

2286
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 2: the Colts plus two and a half getting some value.

2287
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 2: This line has moved a ton it's over reaction from

2288
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 2: Cincy surprising us last week against Jacksonville. I'll take the

2289
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: two and a half. With the fighting Gardner Minshewes, get

2290
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: Grover Stewart back, better rush defense, I'll go with the Colts.

2291
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 2: Give me the Ravens. I'll lay seven and a half

2292
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 2: at home against the Rams. Rams have been good lately,

2293
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 2: Kyron Williams running the rock, but on the road in conditions,

2294
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson shows up. NFC teams, I'll lay the seven

2295
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: in the hook. I like the Ravens, and give me

2296
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 2: a prop here. Give me Justin Fields Bears quarterback. Over

2297
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 2: sixty two and a half rushing yards. He feasts on

2298
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 2: the Lions defense. He gets to at least sixty three

2299
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 2: rushing yards. He might do that in the first half. Sorry,

2300
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: Chris Purfett, but he might. And now Lion still might win.

2301
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 2: But Justin Field's gonna do his thing. All right, let's

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01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 2: do this.

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01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 6: This is the best play of the day.

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01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 2: It's a touchdown man, all right, Jared, what do you have?

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01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: Well, I would have given you Navy at three, but

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01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 1: it's two and a half now.

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01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 5: So we're gonna be disciplined and we're gonna go with

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01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 5: the rich opick over twenty eight Army Navy so under

2309
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 5: sixteen and one in the last seventeen games. But if

2310
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 5: the total was twenty eight, it would have been twelve

2311
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 5: and five to the old rank.

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01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 2: Enjoy it. We'll see you