WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: What Would You Fix?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Price Jollowing. The live says got Pa and

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<v Speaker 1>now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>and Kyle Yeoman's. It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>Week five, Episode two. As we start looking ahead to

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants, the first Divisional opponent of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty season, and we still well, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta look back a little bit to the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>Browns in a forty nine thirty eight loss, the final

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<v Speaker 1>score of this past Sunday, and the Cowboys coming in

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<v Speaker 1>at one in three. Glads, you're with us on Talking

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys on the very streaming platforms or live right now

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<v Speaker 1>on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm Kyle Yeoman's in studio

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<v Speaker 1>with Isaiah stand Back. We've got heck My Harrison and

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips as always, and guys, it's uh, you still

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<v Speaker 1>have that disappointment there. It still looms, It's still got

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<v Speaker 1>the bubble guts, as heck My likes to say, whenever

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the losses past Sunday, you still have

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<v Speaker 1>that little itch that you need to scratch whenever it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the Cowboys getting a win. But don't you

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<v Speaker 1>feel just a little bit better on Tuesday now that

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of moved along a little bit here? Rob, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Isaiah can can speak to this. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a what is it a ten minute cooling down period

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<v Speaker 1>after games where media is not allowed in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room and nobody's allowed in the locker room

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but it's it's a situation where you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of calmed down a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all probably had a chance to go

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<v Speaker 1>back watch the tape. Not pretty as as Heckma suggested

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to go, but but you see, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a better You kind of put the motions aside, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the things that maybe did go well

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<v Speaker 1>that you can build off of, and you get a

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<v Speaker 1>clearer picture of what didn't go well, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go well. But but I think you know, usually

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<v Speaker 1>by Tuesday you kind of take a big picture view

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<v Speaker 1>of it and say, look, it's four games in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a half game out. Of first place, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot to clean up. Rob, I'm gonna disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with both of y'all. Right now. Now I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had a lot of surgeries in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately in so when you get out of surgery, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the medicine they give you a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a little constipated, you know, get a little constipated. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so when you get a little backed up, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>right right now, the cowboys got a little bubble bubble guts.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the bubble guts, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>So that they're a little backed up right now. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't get relief from being backed up until you go

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<v Speaker 1>out there. You let it go, right, So we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go out there this week and let it go all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So right now I'm not feeling any better. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>the same until we go out there. Embussies, giants in

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth. We need to get Isaiah some tums. Heck,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what a segue? I love it. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>no better way to come into a show talking about

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<v Speaker 1>bubble guts and complication. Yeah, so you know, obviously obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I'm smiling, but I'm crying inside. You know, I've watched

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<v Speaker 1>this tape for the umpteenth time and it's it's it's there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm look, we're gonna what we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>is find the silver lining today and we're gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>your right right because, as the Great Nate Newton said,

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<v Speaker 1>we have Giants RX coming this this Sunday. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the title, the title today's show should be bubble Guts

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<v Speaker 1>yea or let it Go? Yeah, let it Go might

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<v Speaker 1>be the better one. I like that. And what Heck

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<v Speaker 1>was referring to in terms of what Isaiah or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>what Nate Newton said. He said it on the postgame

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<v Speaker 1>show on Sunday and said, uh that hey, good thing

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<v Speaker 1>that the RX drug stores coming in, the pharmacy's coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the New York Giants. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>all of their weaknesses or your strengths and the vice versa,

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<v Speaker 1>really and the fact that this could fix a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things for the Cowboys and Ezekiel Elliott even said

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<v Speaker 1>in his postgame press conference that they need to find

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of confidence early and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe that week to do so where you finally

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of confidence and you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>roll with it a little bit earlier than what they

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<v Speaker 1>have done in the first four weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys, I gave you a homework assignment last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tease this at the end of the show yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, where the Cowboys are at this very moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to, really, where do you point the finger?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you point it at the coaching staff or

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<v Speaker 1>at the players? And I think yesterday we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>came to an agreement that it was really at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it was to point the fingers at the players. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta step up. You gotta do your job. Cleveland did

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<v Speaker 1>their job on Sundays. You did not. You did not

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<v Speaker 1>play complimentary football. So I gave you, guys the role

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<v Speaker 1>of playing general manager. Was like, oh, let it be

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<v Speaker 1>a GM. So I know you would. I think you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty good at it too, and I know Rob

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<v Speaker 1>would be very good at it as well. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing with playing GM. I'm giving you two acquisitions

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to make. One is a free agency pickup,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can't be the same as the other three analysts. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you be willing to trade We can't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about other players specifically on other teams for various reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can talk about what we'd be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>trade and for what position. So Isaiah Scher in studio,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start with you first. We're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>the acquisition first. Then we're gonna go to heck Butt,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Rob will back things up on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the third side. Is this really a question? Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you know exactly where I'm going with this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a gentleman by the name of Earlist Thomas. Okay, he's

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<v Speaker 1>out there. He's a Hall of Fame caliber player. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in a Hall of fame. He's all pro,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an absolute comp editor. And you're hearing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stirs and in terms of why people don't want

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<v Speaker 1>him on his team, Listen up, y'all, these are grown men.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to influence grown man if he is

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<v Speaker 1>this bad guy all of a sudden, go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and shure up your secondary in a safety position. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we've had a lot of blown plays back there, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's miscommunication, whether it's whether it's a you know, assignment errors,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you really handle those issues by going

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<v Speaker 1>and picking up this free agent back there, somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>probably even more the way I know Earl, he's really

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<v Speaker 1>angry right now. He can't wait to hit the fielder

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<v Speaker 1>and just go show everybody wrong, okay, And then whenever

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to a trade here also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the fans come in and send us your send us

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<v Speaker 1>your picks and your trade willingness as well. But what

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<v Speaker 1>position would you want to trade for and what would

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<v Speaker 1>be you would be willing to give up. I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to trade for an interior defensive alignment I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to give I would want to get an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>dog run stopper at the defensive interior D line position.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would be willing to give up two to

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<v Speaker 1>three players that we have at the in the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>position because we have an assortment of guys back there

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<v Speaker 1>right um, and none of them are necessarily you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, what's the best way of saying this,

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<v Speaker 1>rob None of them, I would say, none of them

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<v Speaker 1>are necessarily dogs right now. I think the guys are

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<v Speaker 1>going to get better, but I think there's two or

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<v Speaker 1>three guys that you could probably trade away to add

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<v Speaker 1>some depth to some other teams competitively. To go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and get one absolute dog on a D line.

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<v Speaker 1>So no draft picks there, Rob, Do you agree in

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<v Speaker 1>the standpoint that maybe even another team would be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to trade for our secondary players because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's something that other teams might be necessarily interested in. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just it would just depend on, you know, what the

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<v Speaker 1>needs are for other teams. I mean, I think usually

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<v Speaker 1>usually in the NFL it's involving draft picks, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think they got That's what they've done

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<v Speaker 1>the last few years. I think Michael Bennett was a

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<v Speaker 1>conditional seventh round pick that they brought him in from

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<v Speaker 1>New England obviously the Amari trade. So you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably giving away my answer here, but I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little hesitant to do that right now. Yea, with my

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks, I like it. I like it all right, Hackma,

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<v Speaker 1>you're up, man. Let's get the free agents in the

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<v Speaker 1>mix here. Now, you know, yesterday when you gave us

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<v Speaker 1>the homework a signment, I had to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>call to ask you, what are you trying to do here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to trick us out our spot by

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<v Speaker 1>asking us to play a general manager and have all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of heat on our head, and we know you

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<v Speaker 1>like being in the principal's office, but we don't. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about this long and hard, and my answer

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<v Speaker 1>is this, man, I feel as though you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>praised Will McClay and what he does in the off

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<v Speaker 1>season and do the draft and putting this team together,

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<v Speaker 1>we ignore the signs of the pandemic. And I understand. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not avoiding the question. I'm just saying that when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the interviews and you see everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying from a front office and organizational standpoint, they

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the guys that they have. Obviously, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get other like start to having auditions for guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are out there on the streets and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that a Snax Harrison is out there. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way to go to start seeing who's there that

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<v Speaker 1>may be able to help you with some of your

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<v Speaker 1>interior line problems. But it's still gonna be what Isaiah said,

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be having to look at the back half

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<v Speaker 1>of our defense and fix a lot of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>that we have. And guys, I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>all question, do you know a gentleman by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of t J. Karrie. I do have you? You do

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Do you know Julian Blackman? Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So he played no. So these are guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are safeties that are on the Indianapolis coach which

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<v Speaker 1>is the number one number tied with the Steelers right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are guys that are seventh and third round

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<v Speaker 1>picks that nobody was raving about them or saying their

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<v Speaker 1>name right, But it's because of the way that their

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<v Speaker 1>defense plays, the takeaways and the turnover differential. We're right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are last in the league. Rob We've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this a lot, the Cowboys not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to get turnovers. We saw last night Monday night, the

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<v Speaker 1>easy turnovers that gods were getting a pick six. When

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<v Speaker 1>was the last time the Cowboys had an easy pick six?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wait twenty and seventeen, Okay, this was a Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a it's been a minute. It's been a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that just that just speaks to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the woes and problems that you've had defensively. Look Earl

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Edwin Matten. If you had Earl Thomas Charles Haley,

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<v Speaker 1>uh pick a defensive lineman from a great era. If

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<v Speaker 1>you give up three hundred and seven yards running, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get beat. Period. So there's the long answer. So

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<v Speaker 1>so you said, Earl Thomas, that's what you get. Oh gosh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear that at all. It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little piece of it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>piece in there in Isaiah. I've gone to the school

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<v Speaker 1>of Isaiah's. I've gone to the school of Isaiah standback.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I do is I present present the analysis

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<v Speaker 1>right first, and then I present my argument, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I cut you off at whatever else you We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to come back try tout Oh that's awesome. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>really I'm glad you brought up brought that up in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you did, because one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>we're having this conversation and playing GM is because of

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<v Speaker 1>the reluctancy of the front office at least to look outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Then even Stephen Jones said yesterday on the flagship Station

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<v Speaker 1>one on five point three the fan that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a team that you need to look inward on. You

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<v Speaker 1>you built this team in the offseason. You have faith

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<v Speaker 1>in the guys that you have. You have to look inward. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point of having a coaching staff. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>it would just be daily fantasy playing football out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would just have these these acquisitions here and there. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some opportunities to go out and make improvements.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's where the conversation and maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>some of the frustration is for Cowboys fans is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there are players available that could help you immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's something that at least that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big reasons why we're having this conversation because

0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the front office is staying put, at least publicly they're

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<v Speaker 1>staying put. They may be making those persons, they may

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<v Speaker 1>be having those phone calls. However, whenever you turn things around,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an opportunity to get better. All right, Rob, who

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<v Speaker 1>you got as an acquisition? Can I can I just

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<v Speaker 1>real quick? Can I just rebuttal that or play Deuvil's advocate? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>The point you just made, well because because Jerry was

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<v Speaker 1>asked about that exact question just now on the fan

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<v Speaker 1>and he basically said, if you look at our roster

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<v Speaker 1>currently constructed, we have gone out and found veterans to

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<v Speaker 1>try to help the team. Now, this was off season,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and I know you guys are talking in season,

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<v Speaker 1>but Aldin Smith is here, don Terry Poe is here, haha.

0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Clinton Dix was here, Gerald McCoy was here. They they

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<v Speaker 1>have gone the veteran route. Now they're not doing it

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and there could be different reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, money is always involved in bringing in veteran guys.

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<v Speaker 1>How much guaranteed money do they want. I'm just speaking

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<v Speaker 1>in generalities here, but Jerry kind of spoke to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of what their cap situation is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>going forward, they've got to be careful with the money

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<v Speaker 1>that they commit, and so maybe that has something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. You know, we've talked about old Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody has for a long time here. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much off the field is involved there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's really interesting to me he's still not

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<v Speaker 1>found a new team because you know, I'll kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seg into segue into your question. I mean, to Isaiah's point,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's the best free agent out there in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of accomplishments and probably what he could bring it

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<v Speaker 1>to a team immediately. When I look when I watched

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<v Speaker 1>the game back yesterday. The thing that jumped out to

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<v Speaker 1>me the most is that front four. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know Jalen Smith is getting crushed right now publicly for

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<v Speaker 1>the game he played, But the game, the more I watched,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminded me so much of that twenty eighteen game

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<v Speaker 1>against Indianapolis, Like the first time we kind of saw

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<v Speaker 1>cracks in the run defense with this kind of Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>era team, And it was like Isaiah said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they just kind of you drawed up on a chalkboard,

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<v Speaker 1>you block here, seal here, and that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were on the front flour so quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>on Jalen Smith so quickly at times that I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that really stood out to me. But there's you

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<v Speaker 1>can point to. There's been something wrong in different spots

0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.600
<v Speaker 1>every game the defense has had trouble with. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say one thing, but I would say interior rusher,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what snacks Harrison where he is in

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<v Speaker 1>his career, and I think, you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>reports are he's visiting Seattle this week and obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys haven't gone in that direction. Jerry has been asked

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<v Speaker 1>about him specifically and said they liked the guys upfront

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<v Speaker 1>that they have, But I do think maybe finding somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to help, or at least maybe bringing up Neville Gallimore

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<v Speaker 1>and giving him a shot to try to seal things

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<v Speaker 1>up in that front. Four I think is really important

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<v Speaker 1>right now because I think that that was a big

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<v Speaker 1>issue in the run defense yesterday at least or Sunday. Hey, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>when you got an up unity to watch the tape

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<v Speaker 1>and you saw, like you talked about this, Jaylen Smith

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<v Speaker 1>is taking a beating in the media and everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>down on him, talking about getting rid of all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. He doesn't deserve the money. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>see him trying to pursue the ball and he has

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<v Speaker 1>done terry post sitting in his lap. That's not a

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<v Speaker 1>good image there. But this what's happening. He doesn't he's

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<v Speaker 1>not able to get in those lays. He's not able

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue the ball because he's fighting off his own guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wouldn't matter. It really doesn't matter from a

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker's standpoint if you have LV or whomever you have,

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<v Speaker 1>But you have your linebackers taking on lineman and that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to shorten their careers or at least get them hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm knocking on Wood because I don't want that

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't have anything behind him that's better than him.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to consider that when we start passing

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<v Speaker 1>that criticism for Jaylen Smith, not saying that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>had busted coverage and you can't circle other things where

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<v Speaker 1>he has definitely missed a tackle. But guys, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to when you turn on the Cleveland uh take, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just evident that there's nothing that he can do with

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<v Speaker 1>guys in his own guys in his face. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>not to say there weren't mistakes on his part. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it goes all around. Obviously, the penalty, the

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<v Speaker 1>face face mass penalty. I think that that was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge play in the game, changed the momentum around. There's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously different angles you can take to try to make

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<v Speaker 1>those plays and and and you know, Jerry talked about

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta trust the scheme, and we talked about that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't overrun plays, you can't get outside of your job.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that that just kind of goes all around

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<v Speaker 1>with the whole defense right now, and that that's that's more,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not talent, that's just making simple plays and and

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<v Speaker 1>trusting your assignment. Yeah. Well, and even with Jalen Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us here are saying that Jalen Smith's playing well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had his mistakes, like Rob just said. But whenever

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<v Speaker 1>we were going into this season, we said, the additions

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<v Speaker 1>to the defensive line, we're gonna take pressure off of

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith. It was gonna be an uphill back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a tall mountain to climb without Layton

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<v Speaker 1>vander esh next to them. But whenever you have an avalanche,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to look lost. Whenever you're trying to climb

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<v Speaker 1>a mountain with an avalanche coming at you, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>those defensive linemen being pushed back, you have to dodge

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of rocks and boulders back and forth. So overall, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense has issues. We're going to fix some of

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<v Speaker 1>after our high school game. We called oh Man, mister Miyagi,

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<v Speaker 1>We invited Isaiah said no, he couldn't come, so but

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<v Speaker 1>us here on Talking Cowboys, Isaiah, stand back, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>heck Ma Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman's time now for some

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<v Speaker 1>fans on the fifty. Fans on the fifty got our

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<v Speaker 1>great sounder again from Chris Beam as always, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got some fantastic questions already coming in throughout the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hours. I tweeted it out this morning. Continue

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<v Speaker 1>sending them in though on the periscope stream. I'll definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read them off of there as well. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and talk about this. And we're gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>this specifically to Isaiah, and this is from our boy Gee,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, please ask Isaiah, Woods, Cheeto, Brown, Lewis all

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<v Speaker 1>had good rookie seasons. Do they Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>they've progressed as play over the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and what are the reasons if they haven't, And what's

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<v Speaker 1>the cutoff to move on if they haven't Woods, Cheeto,

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<v Speaker 1>Brown and Lewis, so all of your secondary players ultimately, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they definitely haven't improved. Um, you don't think Antoine or

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, you don't think Xavier Woods is improved? No? Wow, No, No.

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<v Speaker 1>Only only person I say that has improved has been Digs.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because he's he's seeing things that he's never

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<v Speaker 1>seen before. Right, So he's becoming more patient, he's gaining

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that experience. Now he's still getting torched sometimes, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>you expected Ricky too, especially with some of the schemes

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<v Speaker 1>that we're playing. But no, they answered the question directly. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't. Even they have not improved, not visibly at least,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not not something that it hasn't shown up

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<v Speaker 1>on film. And when do you move on? You have

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<v Speaker 1>nobody to move on to. So true, Um, if there

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<v Speaker 1>was somebody to move on to, you know, we obviously would. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we saw, we saw Thompson get pulled you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for Wilson. Um, But you know, I don't I don't see.

0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't see Xavier was getting getting pulled out the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have if there were other guys to put

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<v Speaker 1>in there, I think they would have been placed in

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<v Speaker 1>there already. Rob, same question here whenever it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the secondary. Do you think you've seen an improvement from

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<v Speaker 1>some of those guys after they kind of came out hot,

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<v Speaker 1>even as late round pick. Yeah, that's a tough one

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<v Speaker 1>to answer because I was looking forward to seeing and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll still see it at some point. Cheeto with with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a new scheme, new secondary coach, how he

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<v Speaker 1>could progress and you know, Jordan Lewis can make plays

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<v Speaker 1>for you, uh in small packages, in short amount of

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<v Speaker 1>plays like our snaps that he gets, But how does

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<v Speaker 1>he do with the larger volume of plays that That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's still got to be answered. Um. I thought Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Brown did a better job, like after his first or

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>second year the penalties were too high. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the top in the league, and penalties

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<v Speaker 1>can cut that down. Um. You know, and Xander is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy they really count on back there. But obviously there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the big plays back there are contributed in

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<v Speaker 1>parts to the safety. I can't you can't say that

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<v Speaker 1>any parts has been productive so far. It's interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>three of the four guys you mentioned there are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be free agents next year. So you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>could be a completely different looking secondary next year, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on what where they go. I think only only Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's got a three year deal, and that was signed

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<v Speaker 1>over there, looking at looking at oh, go for it,

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>go for it had Man. Yeah, basically, those those the

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.679
<v Speaker 1>four guys that you were speaking of. I thought Anthony

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Brown had a really good rookie season, as the question said,

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know, kind of regressed last year. I felt

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>like he was playing a lot better before he was

0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>injured for Lewis Man. I just feel as though his

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>skill set calls for him to be a slot corner

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.959
<v Speaker 1>and he's a liability when you try to play him

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>on the outside. So I think those are the differences

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>between him. I think he's just playing out of position.

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>As far as Woods, I haven't I haven't seen him

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>take the next step. I know that he's a locker

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>room guy. Everybody one says great things about him, but

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.679
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't translate a lot of times to the field.

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>And so especially with this first quarter of the season

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and our secondary giving up so many big plays, it's

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>just kind of hard to say that a guys is

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>playing good, you know, having a good season. Yeah, it

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 1>is tough to say, and man, once again, I think

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>we need both of those guys back whenever it comes

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to Cheeto and for Anthony Brown, the fact that just

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 1>having that reped and having that flexibility whenever it comes

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to having the depth chart and the guys that are

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>actually at the top of the depth chart available, I

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna pay dividends for the secondary pretty much immediately.

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna come back in Dix is getting those reps.

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Like Isaiah just said, he wasn't on the initial list

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>from g but Digs is a guy who you have

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>seen some improvement upon, but he's had to improve because

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>if not, you're you're getting torched by everyone through the

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>first four weeks this season. And he finally gets maybe

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a break this week because who's

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>he gonna go up against is a golden tape. No,

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 1>he's probably gonna be suspended. But there's a couple different

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 1>players you could look and point to to say they

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>would make an immediate impact coming back. I think both

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 1>those corners would all Right. This one's from Ross Waddell.

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>He says, assuming there is no external free agent sign

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about in the last segment, what are

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>some internal personnel changes, if any, do you see being

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 1>made to improve the defense. Heck, we'll start with you

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>on this one man. Internal personnel changes like say playing

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Neville Gallimore instead of Tristan Hill. Yeah, yeah, though, I

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.400
<v Speaker 1>mean that's what you gotta do. You have to give.

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>We just alluded to that, giving your rookies and guys

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that you need to get a look at, because right now,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the looks that you're getting from Tristan Hill. Although Tristan Hill, again,

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>he's a splash player, you see it, and then there's

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>other times where you turn on the turn on the

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>tape and he's getting reached and it's just it's a

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>bad look for him. Done. Terry Poe, I don't as

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a as a veteran in this league for as long

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>as he's been right now, he hasn't. He isn't pleased

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>with his production. And Antoine Woods right now would be

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>his replacement. We have it. We got to look pretty

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>much at all hands on deck mentality with getting this

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>front four shored up. Rob. Yeah, that's a good one.

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know Antoine has gotten more snaps the last

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>two or three games, So I wonder if that's going

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to continue to try to shore up things in there. Um,

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll see what happens with the safety position

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>next to Xavier Um. Mike Nolan wasn't ready to Mike

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy weren't answer ready to answer that question about Donovan

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Wilson or Darian Thompson. I'm still waiting on Brandon Carr.

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, if they're not going to do anything outside

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the roster, where's he at? You know, where can we

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>cease more of him? Because I think he's gotten like

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>four snaps the last two games, and he's been at

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>corner a couple of times. But uh, they signed him

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>with the idea that he could help at safety. So

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 1>I wonder you know where he is, you know, coming

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>off no training camp, and and uh whether they could

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>get him involved the other thing too. I thought Mickey

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Spagnola made a great point in terms of setting the

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>edge in the run game. You know, when they're in

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>a three four look, you're asking edge rushers to be

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, function as strong side linebackers, and or can

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.239
<v Speaker 1>they can they do that? You know? And so how

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, how from an alignment standpoint, are they going

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to maybe change things up to try to help in

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>that area that that was That was something that popped

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>up watching it back that I thought was a really

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 1>good point. So if you were to switch that up, Rob,

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>would it be going back to like a base four

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>three instead of staying with that that three four or

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that four three under type of Look, you might, I

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>mean you might have to look at it, you know

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it just you know, you're a month end of the

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>season and you got to look at your personnel and say,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>are we equipped to do that or at least as

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>much as you would like to. And so maybe they're not,

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe maybe because some of the injuries. You know,

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah spoke to it, and after watching this last game,

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like I think the question was who are they missing most?

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Who's injured? Joe Thomas is coming and done some really

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>good things, but man, they miss late in Vanderish. They're

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 1>really miss him because I think he compliments Jalen Smith

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>skills so well and they don't. They don't have that

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>linebacking corps is really is really hurting just from a

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>number standpoint right now. And Isaiah, I know last week,

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>whenever we asked that question on who we miss the

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>most in terms of who was not available for the cowboys,

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you said late in Vanderesh, But does that kind of

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>translate into maybe some of the switches you would make internally?

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you guys are starting to allude to it.

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you have It has to be a scheme thing.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they probably recognize at this point in ten

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>at three four, we're not equipped properly for a three four,

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>or at least the guys aren't play up to that

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>level right now. So I think it is one part

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>as a scheme, and then the second part is, man,

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>just competition, peer competition. Man, those guys have to figure

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.959
<v Speaker 1>out a way. I don't know what the practices look like, obviously,

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>but they have to find a way to get the

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>competitive juices flowing because right now it looks like guys

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>are just collecting the check. And to Rob's point, I

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>want to see Reggie Robinson, man, Yeah, but Reggie at man,

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to see I want to

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>see Robinson. I mean, he's competitive in college. I'm sure

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>that they're allowing him to kind of get his feet

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>underneath them. But shoot, at this point, maybe you don't

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>throw anybody out there. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>is they made the switch because he was drafted in

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the fourth round out of Tulsa. He was a corner,

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>he was a straight corner, didn't play any safety. They

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>made the switch in training camp seemingly to move him

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>over to safety, and he was seeing some first second

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>team reps. So if you're not gonna go with Darien Thompson,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>or you're not gonna develop Donovan Wilson, why not give

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>some opportunities to Reggie Robinson. I'll throw another name in here.

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to see Bradley and I fellas. I want

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to see Bradley and I can do. I know he's

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>only had like, I think he's had maybe six snaps

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the entirety of the season. He's looked

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>good on couple of let me even add a pressure.

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I think his first or second snap of his NFL

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>career he had a pressure and he was in the

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>backfield immediately. So I like Bradley and I on tape,

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think he could make an impact. Yes, heckma, Yeah.

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to, you know, and Isaiah, I wanted to

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>ask you something, especially you know, being that you came

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>out of a Belichick system and I feel as though

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>when we were talking about what Rob was saying that

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>on the Mickey conversation with Lineman actually scheme wise playing

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>out of position. Now, coaches break down their practices by

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>periods and so all of it is about teaching the fundamentals.

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>And when you turn on the tape, there are just

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>certain things that you see that are just not showing

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>up that should be taught. And just like inside drills,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>when you do an inside drill, that's just practicing against

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the team running the ball, against your look. And if

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you knew going into the Cleveland game they were going

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to hold up on you with you know, twelve and

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>all the different personnel packages that they have, and you

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>still gave up three hundred and seven. What's happening during

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that inside drill of that period that's not translating to

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the game. I wish I could watch practice, and I

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>wish I could answer that. Um, you know, definitively, I

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know what their practices look like. I can tell

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you when I was in New England, I can tell

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you when I was in Seattle, you know, even here

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.479
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas, Man, you know, it was competitive, I mean

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>like it was. Those periods were very competitive, and it

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>was because of the culture that was established at those

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>at those places, and the players there they cared enough, right,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean when you when I was here in Dallas,

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you mean you had Tank and Spears and Hatch and Ratliff,

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and those guys weren't gonna just take getting blown off

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Even though you had Flozella, Adams and Colombo

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and Andre Gerade. There were bullies on both sides of

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball, and nobody we talked about that manhood thing, right,

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>We talked about manhood yesterday, right, Nobody wanted to get

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>their manhood taken right on. And even in practice, Yeah,

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. It wasn't okay, right, So you take that,

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you take that competitive environment. You play way

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.239
<v Speaker 1>more snaps in practice than you ever play in a game, right,

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So if it's not established in practice, don't expect for

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the show up in the game. Yeah, it's got to

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>carry over. And I like the question, Heckman, because especially

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>with a Belichick kind of background here, you gotta see

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>what practice is, because that's what's important, are the reps

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you get in practice for those young guys to develop

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and to find their way into positions. Maybe that's why

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>we're not seeing a Bradley and I are Reggie Robinson

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and Gallimore and guys like that who we thought could

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>make an impact in twenty twenty. But uh, it's something

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to look forward to moving on. They might be brother

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>in law in it. You never know, right, and brother

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>in lawn is just hey. In practice, you know where

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>guys are kind of taking, you know, a half speed

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>reps because I'm a vet and I don't I can't

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>risk getting hurt. You know what I'm saying. I know

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>where I'm supposed to be. This is my capit supps

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to be in and then all of a sudden you

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>go into the game and all I'm much gonna cut

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it on. No you're not. No, you're not You're not

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna cut it on because that's not you. That's not

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>your brother in law. On the other side, now, that's

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a grown man that really doesn't care much about you.

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if that's what they're doing. I

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>wish I could see it, but I get the feeling

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.239
<v Speaker 1>as if there's they're they're not going as fast as

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they can in practice. Maybe they're trying to preserve these

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>guys and they don't want them to get injured because

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a lot of depth at this point, Fellas.

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>We got to compete, man, we got to compete, and

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not showing up And just for the fans perspective,

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And Chris Beam reminded me in the back, it wasn't

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Tank Lawrence on those teams. It was Tank Johnson. Correct,

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>But I say, Lawrence, I think you said Lawrence my fault.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>You said Tank. You just said Tea ninety nine the

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>doll that's my guy. Different most, I guess, can't fans.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Most Cowboys fans would probably realize that Tank Lawrence has

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>been here for the entire of his career. No, it's

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>not on you. We're it's not on you. We're just

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>similar making sure to stay clear throughout the talking Cowboys. Okay,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>so fans on the fifty, there's a lot of questions

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to. We're gonna get to them on

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Twitter and try and answer as many as we can

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because we just ran out of time kind of talking

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>about these these first couple ones, but keep sending them in.

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll answer them on Twitter. We'll get those things answered

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<v Speaker 1>for you throughout the rest of the day. But when

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<v Speaker 1>see it today. I know even even the two virtual

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<v Speaker 1>members of our crew today can't see Isaiah. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just dancing on the side. It's a little bit. It's

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a travesty. I'm everywhere and nowhere, everywhere

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and nowhere at the same time. Okay, So starting this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll do this at the end of every quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. Of course, coaches, media, front office members,

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<v Speaker 1>they always want to look at the NFL season in quarters,

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and of course the Cowboys first quarter a one and

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>three one and very easily could have been one. Who

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>are three and one? A very easily could have been

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.919
<v Speaker 1>oh and four. There's different ways where it could have gone.

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.439
<v Speaker 1>But it ended up one and three. But we're gonna

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>give individual grades to each of these units whenever it

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>comes to the Cowboys, and we're gonna start on the

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the football, and we'll start with the

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>passing game. And these are grades A through F. You

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>can give a plus, you can give a minus. It's

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>anything goes here. But Rob will start with you on

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>this one. Passing game is where we'll start A through F.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>What's your first quarter grade? I gotta give it an A.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I have to dax On pace for like sixty seven

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards or something, just absurd. I think the record

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>is fifty seven hundred maybe something by by Paid Manning

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in twenty thirteen when he put fifty one on the

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and in that duels Romo. I mean, it's ridiculous

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>just based off stats. That being said, it's not leading

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to wins, and it's not the way they want to

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>play offensively, but when you see the capability that they

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>have in the passing game, so I have to give

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it a name. Okay, Rob, all right, excuse me, heckman,

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go A. I gotta go A. And I

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 1>believe that these three well ceedee Lamb is as advertised.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.479
<v Speaker 1>I know, with the secondary of problems, you've even sought

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to hear the rumblings of people saying, well, oh, we

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't got a safety. No, we shouldn't have got a

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>ceedee lamb in seventeen and he is. He's proven it, man,

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>He's one of those two eights with pride, and he's

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>putting in work. I think there are some things that

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you can look back to as far as the Seattle

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>game on some routes that I received was just kind

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>of alligator on, didn't run the route completely and cause

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the turnover. Maybe uh, it's just those little things that

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe get you the A minus. But when dak is

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.919
<v Speaker 1>on pace to throw for sixty seven sixty seven hundred yards,

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to say anything less than an A

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>for the passing game. Well, I'm gonna say something else

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that beside from A. Heckma, all right, I'm coming in

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm saying a B, not even a B plus,

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>not even a B plus. It was I knew it,

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>it was. That's that's what you got rout this guy. Man.

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>That's why I couch, I said, because it's not leading.

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Because I couch, I say it's not leading to win

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>because I knew, I say, I was gonna say, yeah,

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it's great number. The numbers are these are empty calories.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know what he's doing to us. He's he's cattle,

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>He's cattle proud and us man understand this. I might

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 1>have played a lot of positions. One of the one

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of the positions was quarterback, right, and I happen to

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 1>play quarterback for the New England Patriots for a while. Right,

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>My standards for quarterback play and precision and game management

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>is rather high. And Dak has not been the most

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>accurate passer this year, and he has gotten lucky on

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of balls. If you go back and watch

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>these first four games, there's probably at least nine to

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 1>ten balls that should have been intercepted. I'm talking about

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>straight through guy's hands. Straight not even tip balls, no, no, no,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>these are balls straight to through guy's hands. Linebackers, safeties, corners,

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Trey Flowers sitting on the floor. Right, ball hit him

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>in a chest. So they've gotten really lucky, really lucky

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>through this first quarter of the season. And yes, he

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>has amazing stats, but a lot of those stats can

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<v Speaker 1>win when you're when you're when you're when you're coming

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>from behind. I've been mentioning it. You're coming from behind,

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and the secondaries are playing soft. You're not seeing the

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>team's best. So I'm gonna give it a B because

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not happening when it matters. I agree with you.

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And there have been multiple occasions where it could have

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>easily ended up in a turnover. I mean, even though

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Mari touchdown passed, and the first quarter of Sunday's game

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>could have ended up in an interception or a knockdown

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>pass turnover on downs. And that's the one thing that

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah will not let anybody hang their hat on. Anything

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that starts with if right. He has a saying for

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and if true, and that's what he basically just did himself.

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>He just said, if happens, goot, if the if the

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>ball if I mean, come on, man, no, it was

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>a completion. You have to go with what what what? What?

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>What happened in the game. We can't say that was

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>almost he got the yard and he did. He doesn't

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>have I'm not taking I'm not taking. So you got

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a great at least a B plus. No, it's a

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>bus It was almost as it was. It was almost

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a B minus. Heck, what I'm saying is I'm not

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.399
<v Speaker 1>taking anything waste. But he's done. But the same way

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that you say him and Baker Mayfield had very similar

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>stats in terms of touchdown turnover ratio coming into the game.

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Actually Dak had more turnover yes, right, so the same

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>way that we say, hey, well, force Baker Mayfield to

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball because guess what, He's gonna give you

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a few opportunities. Right, How how can we look at

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it any differently when we look at that he's gonna

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>if I'm he's gonna give you some opportunities. Good. He

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>might bring the fire whenever it comes to some of

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>these hot takes, but he backs it up with a

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>bit of gas too when he comes in there hot

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>whenever you need it. I would give an a minus

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>based off of the turnovers and the lack of winning.

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think Dak still is cooking. I think he's

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a guy who can he can lead you to the

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>promised Land. I've said that forever. He's still really good

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback. And I think this wide receiving corps

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is just the real deal. All Right, we only have

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>time for one more, so we'll get into the trenches tomorrow.

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Running game heckma, what are you guy in terms of

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>your running game grade so far? Right now? You know

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna get into tomorrow on the running game

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of intertwined, but we're gonna have to get a

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>running game a see at this point because the our

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>running game has been because of leads and things like that.

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>We just had and had much of it, and we

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to set the pacing games and you know,

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>take the air out of the ball by just pounding

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>guys and running ruling time of possession. And I'm especially

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>last game, man, it didn't look as though Ezekiel Elliott

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>could get into any kind of rhythm. And this the

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>turnovers just starting to worry me. You know, Zeke coming

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>out of college was never a guy that we thought

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>was going to be a turnover machine. But now going

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>into the twenty twenty season, man, he's put a couple

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of balls on the ground and it's not starting to

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>look good. And it's four defensive guys. I'm sure that's

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 1>one of their achilles hill and one of the things

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>that they hate the most is a running back that fumbles.

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>So what was your grade again? I didn't hear the

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>letter grade. It's a C. It was a C MICUs

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>C minus. Okay, Rob, what you gut um, I'll probably

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>go like a C plus. I mean, I think it's

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>been it's almost like an incomplete sample in a way

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.720
<v Speaker 1>because of what Heckma just said. They haven't we haven't

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>really seen it. You know, it's not the way they

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be. I think he's only got seventy two carries,

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and aside from putting the ball in the ground, I

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 1>think he looks like he's he's running well, he looks

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>he looks great. But you know, can they establish the

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage to help achieve that balance. I don't

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>think we've yet to see that consistently because of the

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>time and score and all that. But I mean, he's

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>under he's on pace to have under three hundred carries

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in his career. So it's just

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>been a weird start. So I don't think you can

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:30.240
<v Speaker 1>give it, you know, a B or above at this point. Okay, Isaiah,

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>before you go, I know you're about to go off

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>here because I know you're upset with the running game.

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give mine and I'm gonna say a D plus.

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is because one Tony Pollard has

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>been nothing but just kind of a couple carries here

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and there. He hasn't had that same kind of explosiveness

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that we've seen. I agree with Rob and the fact

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that it's been a simple or a very small sample size,

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>but overall, I want Tony Pollard to see a little

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:56.839
<v Speaker 1>bit more. And then when it comes to Ezekiel Elliot,

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't average a fumble per game. I mean, if

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you had sixty fumbles on a season, that's you're not

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>just talking about one of the worst seasons in his career,

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but one of the luster season. Owns it too exactly,

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and he said that in this postgame crash conference, and

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he'll say it throughout the week. Is he's

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>got to hold onto the football and he will. I

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>have faith that he'll turn it around. But in terms

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of the first quarter of the season, you can't average

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>a fumble a game. You have, like you said, the

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>lack of carries, but still even yards per play has

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>not been as high as we've seen for Ezekiel Elliot

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So I'm gonna give him a D plus

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<v Speaker 1>with room for improvement, much room for improvement, but it

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<v Speaker 1>just hasn't been there yet. I appreciate you for keeping

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<v Speaker 1>getting up here. You guys gave a passing grade. A passing.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all passed the Cowboys. Yeah, y'all just pushed them up

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level. If they were in the mind,

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<v Speaker 1>if they were in eleventh grade. Right now, you guys

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>are pushing them over all the way to twelfth grade

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<v Speaker 1>right now. That's what y'all are doing right now. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>come on, you've gotten one of those coaches are to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it real. People rely on us to keep it

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>one hundred with them, regardless if it's popular or not.

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<v Speaker 1>These dudes are a D, and I'm gonna go with

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say D. I'm not even gonna say pless

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<v Speaker 1>or mind. I'm just gonna say a D. It's six

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>it's dog sixty five percent. They sitting right in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and listen up. This is why these passing

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<v Speaker 1>Is it passing? He No, it ain't passing. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>even pass college what it would would have c I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>listen up. These dudes have abandoned. They have abandoned the

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<v Speaker 1>run in half of their games this year. They've had

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon their run in over half of their games.

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott, What in the Seattle game had how many

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<v Speaker 1>rushing yards? Thirty four yards off twelve carries? This game

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>he had what or fourteen carries? He had fifty four

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>yards on what fourteen carries? Yeah? Okay, and you guys

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>are giving me that at C. Come on, fellas, that's

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that's not even That's not even a real thing. Cowboys

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are known for running the ball. So what we have

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<v Speaker 1>amazing receivers, So what we have a quarterback who's throwing

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<v Speaker 1>it all over the field in the second half, right,

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>but these dudes are are known for running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>This offensive line, even with that the depth issues, is

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<v Speaker 1>still above average offensive line. So how is it that

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<v Speaker 1>they can't establish a running game? This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>C running game right now. It should be, and hopefully

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it will be once all these guys get back on

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<v Speaker 1>officsive line. But right now they had they don't get

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<v Speaker 1>a passing grade. They gotta they gotta redo the class,

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 1>gotta redo it. Yes, it was eighty six, the first game,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six, the first game like eighty five, the second

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>game one hundred and thirteen. No, no, so what Kyle asked,

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<v Speaker 1>was the first quarter of the season, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to take into consideration the first two games. Isaiah. Come on, now,

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<v Speaker 1>well come on, I see I see your point, because

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<v Speaker 1>like they're they're out of whack balance wise by their

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.320
<v Speaker 1>own doing because of the turnovers. So I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe I'll drop it to a sea. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna give it a d. We just haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it enough. I think they have the capability to do it,

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>but they haven't. It hasn't been established at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not like they've been unable to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. They just the time and score by their

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 1>own doing hasn't allowed it. kW I'm pretty sure these

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<v Speaker 1>guys got nice honey Chris apples on their desk the

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<v Speaker 1>first day of class because this is ridiculous. We can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely see where who was that? Yeah in school? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now there you go. That's gonna do it for talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna end it on that note. For Parson, for

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, for Isaiah danback special thanks to Chris Beam

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<v Speaker 1>in the back up Kyle Yeoman, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you tomorrow at nine thirty on Talking Cowboys.

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