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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, which means Aristotle isn't with us. Uh he

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<v Speaker 1>we're with her friends with some parts were among friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick update. I don't have Mike's hard that's on me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will procure one, I think for the live

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's my plan. Yeah, try to have to

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<v Speaker 1>find it. Yeah, like, I'll figure it out really quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Boston last night and I met this person,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the worst person I've ever met, but his name

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<v Speaker 1>was Kevin. My friend and I were trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere quiet to catch up, and this Kevin just came

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere and was like, I didn't get into

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard Business School. He cried. And then I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>if he knew what the Bechdel test was, and he

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<v Speaker 1>asked if that was a standardized test because he because

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the Harvard Business School zone. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to see a man really at his lowest

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and it felt like a really good way

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<v Speaker 1>to come in here. Yeah, that's encouraging. No, I get

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you mean. And if you are like Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't know what the Bechtel test is, we're

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<v Speaker 1>here to tell you. It's a test that you apply.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you you handed out that whole story keeping it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know what the Bechtel test is, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a test that you apply to movies or TV shows

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<v Speaker 1>or anything with a story. It requires that two women

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<v Speaker 1>in the story talk to each other. They also have

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<v Speaker 1>to have names, and their conversation has to be about

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<v Speaker 1>something other than a male. Yeah, and we've explained it

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<v Speaker 1>on every episode of our podcast, So yeah, I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple we missed. But people yellous when we

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<v Speaker 1>don't say the right things at the right times, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember and it hurts my feelings. I forgot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about cat facts last time, so we're not to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Alfred mill, which is like, I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>barely believe that, but it's possible. In any case. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a guest, as we always do, we have a guest.

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<v Speaker 1>So our guest today he's a delight. He lives in Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally makes sense that you love this movie because

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<v Speaker 1>this is such a loud, obnoxious, long Island style movie.

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<v Speaker 1>On am I allowed to shut up? Okay, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. It's called TV Casualty. It's on what network

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<v Speaker 1>Machine shout out to life. It's my Hi, Hi. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should address this. We're sitting beside each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels it's weird. I don't want to make eye

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<v Speaker 1>contact with Mike. I'd rather kill myself. But he's right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're so happy to be here. We're doing a bad

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<v Speaker 1>job as hosts and I'm being an exceptional guest. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the movie, which is Beetlejuice. And you

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<v Speaker 1>picked this movie. Why did you pick this movie? What's

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<v Speaker 1>your history with it? How many times have you seen it?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, I've probably seen this movie to hunt times,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot. It was like it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>big movie of my childhood. I liked it. I would

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<v Speaker 1>rent it from the library pretty often. You were like

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<v Speaker 1>watching Beetle Juice in Long Island, just sitting just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch in my parents house, just loving Beetle Juice,

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<v Speaker 1>eating a bunch of dorrito's, really having a good time

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<v Speaker 1>to do a young one on a rider. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>every day, every day is a day that I am

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<v Speaker 1>trying hard not to get the Winona Forever tattoo that

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny had every day of my life. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>friend named Sammy who has that tattoo. There is it

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<v Speaker 1>Winona because Johnny has Wino for every change, which also

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<v Speaker 1>like doesn't bode well with this current persona, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you can't win with that tattoo. Also, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>coward for getting it removed. Just live with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I covered up what is forever. Time is a construct.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, You're right, but yeah, probably the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I probably saw it was probably like six or seven,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, this is like kids movie. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems fun. And then the first time I thought, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know, it looks like like you'd think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think, but it's not. That's kind of the Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Burton thing, where like everything looks like a kid's movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also makes you feel very uncomfortable for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>as like like Edward scissor Hands maybe feel very uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>as a child until I realized what it was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very horny for Edward sussor Hands. Yeah, well I

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<v Speaker 1>don't share that sentiment, but I liked that movie a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for at least some span of time. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it in a while. It's a crier, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sad one. You're gonna feel things, you're gonna be you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna feel compassionate, you're gonna real light with a white man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be confusing every seas. The hand is

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<v Speaker 1>very hot. Well, that movie. That movie, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Beetle Juice also, and probably a lot of Tim Burton

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<v Speaker 1>movies don't make any sense. No, yeah, I okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. I don't like Beetle Juice. The movie

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<v Speaker 1>very much feminist, psychon feminist, feminist. One of my problems,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my several problems with the movie Beetle Juice,

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<v Speaker 1>is that he's so grotesque to look at that he's

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<v Speaker 1>too hot. I didn't like scabs all over his Forehead's

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<v Speaker 1>right now, you know what? That kind of makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>why Jamie likes him covered covered in scabs. He has

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<v Speaker 1>one suit, pinch stripes, he eats bugs, He's a disgusting pervert.

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<v Speaker 1>He has no respect for women. This is like my

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy. Yeah, but mostly a time, mostly the scabs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mostly the scabs and the like pancake face facial makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Well when did you foresee it? I would guess like

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<v Speaker 1>early teens. I've seen it maybe four or five times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like, I don't know what. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of movie that I would like, really really

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<v Speaker 1>get into. But I think I avoided it after a

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<v Speaker 1>while because I didn't want to get looped in with

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<v Speaker 1>the hot topic kids. I wanted to be a hot

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<v Speaker 1>topic kid. But I like, unlike other clicks, that I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to ingratiate myself into a k the anime kids

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<v Speaker 1>who rejected me heartily, the Juggalos who rejected me heartily.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are a family. They're not for me. Not

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a back brace and you can't play

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<v Speaker 1>Hacky Sack. Juggals. I know the Juggalos. I know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you had to be able to play Hacky Sack. If

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<v Speaker 1>you were physically not able to play Hacky Sack, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that would mean you can't be seen

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<v Speaker 1>so many pictures of Juggalos who definitely couldn't play Hacky Sack.

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<v Speaker 1>These ones very accepting. They were very accepting people. They

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<v Speaker 1>really are, Like there's a they did, like a march

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<v Speaker 1>for a quality. Anyways, there's a documentary about feminism at

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<v Speaker 1>the gathering of the Juggalos. I didn't know what a

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<v Speaker 1>Juggler was until I was like twenty eight, Like, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's wild, yeah, so be it. When I saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being on the TV when I was like

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<v Speaker 1>probably six and only remembering the image of like that

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<v Speaker 1>stripy worm like going through the sand, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I remember about it, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I saw it since then until a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days ago when I watched it to prep for this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>So I like lived my life thing. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>about Beetle Juice. I've seen it and I know the

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<v Speaker 1>things about it. And it turns out I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't and like I said, I don't like it

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<v Speaker 1>that much. Uh sorry, everyone, but I have reasons and

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<v Speaker 1>they're good. So okay, I forgot about who is in

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<v Speaker 1>Beetle Juice. I forgot. I totally forgot Alec Baldwin's and

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<v Speaker 1>Beetle Juice. And he looked the hottest he's ever. God's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's everything's tight, doesn't have the right color. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that big gallon of milkheady as a now he looks,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, skinny head. And and I love Gina Davis

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<v Speaker 1>out of control. She's good and Winona didn't remember her

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<v Speaker 1>being in it, didn't remember Katherine o. Harriby kills in

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<v Speaker 1>Wanna Want To. I can't think of a movie that's

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<v Speaker 1>worse for her being there. Oh wait, she makes everything better,

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<v Speaker 1>she makes everything great. She's amazing. And then the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who plays her husband in that movie is in my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Tim Burton movie. I don't remember the actor's name,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's in Sleepy Hollow, which that is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good, you know, it's Johnny Depp being Johnny Depp,

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<v Speaker 1>which turns out as a piece of ship. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great it's a fun little thing. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>principal in Ferris Bueller. Oh okay, I saw that movie

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<v Speaker 1>just the other day. Jeffrey Jones is the actor's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Was here? There was an actor who I believe was

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<v Speaker 1>recently in the last couple of years, definitely arrested for

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of child crime the podcast Love Perverted. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say it was him, but I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it was him. Okay, well, what's his name again,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Jones? Continue to talk? I need to know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well should I do the recap? Sure? Yeah, what's it about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite movie, Beetle Juice is about beetle juice. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you had to say that three times on beetle Juice,

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<v Speaker 1>beetle jice, and then he does the cute I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay. Beetle Juice centers around a married couple, Adam

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<v Speaker 1>and Barbara Maitland, which if I were to marry Adam

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<v Speaker 1>or Barbara Maitland. My name would be okayln Maitland, so

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<v Speaker 1>I might do that observation. Thank you so much. So.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam is played by Alec Baldwin and Barbara is Gina Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're living in this house and they love their house.

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<v Speaker 1>They built a model of the town in their attic

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<v Speaker 1>and they're having a great time and they go out

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<v Speaker 1>to the store and then they fall off a bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>They crash off of a bridge and die. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>it takes them a while to figure out that they've died.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're back in their house and they're like, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, what's this book? The handbook for the recently deceased.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still hot, they're not gross, ugly, scabby ghosts like

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<v Speaker 1>beetle juices. They're still cute because he's the ghost with

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<v Speaker 1>the most So they start to piece together that they

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<v Speaker 1>are dead and that their ghosts, and this new family

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<v Speaker 1>moves in and that's and confirmed the sex offender. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>Katherine Hair and the sex offender coming to the CBS. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a sex offender too. Well. Misbehaving bad. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I say to all sex offenders bad, no misbehaving,

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad. Slap on the wrist for you. Basically, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. He had to go to he had to

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<v Speaker 1>go to counseling and then just be like, Hi, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>respected actor, you know, disgraced human Jeffrey Jones, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>sex offender. Isn't that always the way it? Actually? Ever

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<v Speaker 1>come to your door and been like, I'm a sex offender. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's never happened to me. I feel like there were

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for sure, there are a ton of sex

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<v Speaker 1>offenders in my neighborhood, and like, who's checking to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they tell you? I don't know, right, there

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<v Speaker 1>should be like a case goes along with them to like,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you never, like they're always well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I never. As soon as we got the Internet, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was obsessed with sex offender like listings to find

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<v Speaker 1>out how close they were to the house, or how

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<v Speaker 1>close they were to the school. Grinder for we got

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<v Speaker 1>one point two miles away. Let's see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>The sex offender and Katherine O'Hara, their characters have a

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<v Speaker 1>daughter and that's when you want to ride her. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's got black, She's not like the other girls.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got different, she's different, and they move in and

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<v Speaker 1>Adam and Barbara are like, no, this is our house,

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<v Speaker 1>don't move in. And then so they try to hunt

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<v Speaker 1>them and scare them as they can't leave the house

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<v Speaker 1>right because they yeah, the rule is established for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that they cannot leave their house. So they try

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<v Speaker 1>to scare the diets is who move in, and that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. So then they go to this like afterlife

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<v Speaker 1>waiting room, which is love the waiting tiny head, tiny head,

0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.760
<v Speaker 1>tiny head has got it going on, my man. Yeah,

0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.920
<v Speaker 1>shoulders on that tiny headed guy. It's I mean, it

0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:16.320
<v Speaker 1>really brings out how tiny his head is. Shoulders very

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<v Speaker 1>highlight this side. So they go and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need help. So they meet with this caseworker Juno,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you guys, gotta be simple, be a

0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.960
<v Speaker 1>simple ghost to do some simple hauntings. So then they

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<v Speaker 1>try again to haunt them and scare them out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house and that doesn't work, and then they meet

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<v Speaker 1>the daughter went on a writer's characters. Here's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about her. She's different at different. Her name is Lydia.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a god. She's got insane bangs and I hate them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh come they're pointy. They're fine pointy band, They're very

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<v Speaker 1>point She looks sharp. She's a sharp looking kid. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the whole movie has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sharp looking elements in it. Yeah. Do you re the

0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.520
<v Speaker 1>scene where Beals juices horny and but then he's also

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<v Speaker 1>sharp when the spikes scir out of his body? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fun and that's fun. We horn you

0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.280
<v Speaker 1>just get very sharp. Yeah, that's literally there's Yeah, Beals

0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.280
<v Speaker 1>juices so horny. Yeah, but like literally covered in horns.

0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.120
<v Speaker 1>He's covered. Yeah, and he's horny. Do you see it?

0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.960
<v Speaker 1>What I'm doing? I get it. I get it. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me explained further. So, um, then they meet Lydia, and

0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Lydia is like wait, I can see you guys, and

0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.240
<v Speaker 1>they're like holy ship. So they like befriend Lydia, but

0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.360
<v Speaker 1>they still hate Lydia's parents, so they're still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get them out. And then they hear about Beetle Juice. Well,

0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.000
<v Speaker 1>because the Catherine O'Hara is the stepmom who's who are

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<v Speaker 1>always evil. Stepmoms are bad. We've stepparents in general are

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<v Speaker 1>bad in movies in real life. I don't I don't

0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.720
<v Speaker 1>have any stepparents. It's like, calm down, Yeah, this is

0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.400
<v Speaker 1>what I dis rail gets my dad's girlfriend. Five minutes,

0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Katherine O'Hara and her her interior designer friend I Love Him,

0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.760
<v Speaker 1>are are going through the house and talking about which

0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>parts they want to tear down. That's when yeah, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta call this Beetle Geiss dude. Oh yeah, And

0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.280
<v Speaker 1>then they figure out how to summon him. When you

0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have to call his name out three times, they figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, and then they go to his like little

0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.320
<v Speaker 1>he's like in hanging out in a cemetery. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to dig him up out of his grave. On the

0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.320
<v Speaker 1>pomp and circumstances with Juice. Coming out of the grave,

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<v Speaker 1>he's yelling, he looks like he stinks. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>commercial he has for himself. Yeah, the little song he

0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.480
<v Speaker 1>sings at the end, Yeah beautiful. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>sing the song. Okay, I didn't sing the song. Oh

0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to sing the song probably. Now you know what?

0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It is crazy that Michael Keaton is Batman the year

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<v Speaker 1>after Beetle Juice. It's wild right right, Like he's acting

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<v Speaker 1>like the Joker this entire They know a man who

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<v Speaker 1>can anchor a series. That's what they know. They go,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the face of our movie. Is yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>though beetle Juice, the character is in the movie Beetle

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Juice for seventeen minutes, it's yeah, where is Beetlejuice? That

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<v Speaker 1>for most of the he's not introduced on screen like

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<v Speaker 1>in the flash if you will, in his scabby flesh

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<v Speaker 1>until forty five minutes into the movie. That's my main complaint.

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<v Speaker 1>More be more feminist. It's crazy how little beetle Juice

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<v Speaker 1>is in the movie Beetle Juice. It's it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like, oh, we had this movie Forrest Gump.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's follow Jenny around for like a long time. Honestly,

0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:40.160
<v Speaker 1>would have been a more interesting We're coming for We're

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<v Speaker 1>coming for four this I'm serious though, Jenny, she was

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<v Speaker 1>sucking a bunch of dudes. What was Forrest Gump doing?

0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.679
<v Speaker 1>He ran across the country, he met the president, he

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<v Speaker 1>played Ping Pong real good. He uh, he fights in

0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 1>a war in the boring. But if not for the

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<v Speaker 1>movie for Us Gump, we would not have Bubba Gump

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Strip Company, the restaurant. And I think that that is

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<v Speaker 1>the most important contribution it's made to that's the culture

0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.639
<v Speaker 1>that we have. I could seriously go for some Bubba

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.280
<v Speaker 1>gup right now. I'm always going to choose my favorite restaurant, Hooters,

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<v Speaker 1>over anything else. Shout out to Hooters, my former place

0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of employment as a delivery driver. Shout out to Hooters.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me finish the recap of Beetle Juice

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<v Speaker 1>and then we can do other things. So they consult

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<v Speaker 1>with Beetle Juice and they find out that he's a pervert,

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like within seconds, and they're like, oh, actually, we don't

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.520
<v Speaker 1>want to meet with this guy. But he looks Davis's

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<v Speaker 1>skirt like three seconds after they meet. The first thing

0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 1>he does is like he kisses her. Whenever He's just like,

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.240
<v Speaker 1>he's another surprise kiss. We'll get into it, but we

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.520
<v Speaker 1>have a grand legacy of surprise gisses. I would say

0:19:55.560 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that kiss still is not worse than bread, which way worse. Yes,

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.960
<v Speaker 1>is the worst surprise because we've ever talked about on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. It's horrific. I think he's Beetle Juice over

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<v Speaker 1>the top, taking the head in that movie he lunch. No,

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<v Speaker 1>at least he's not covered in scabs. First of all,

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I would preferred be covered in scabs for all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>No one seen him for a while. He could be

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<v Speaker 1>covered in scabs. Now we just don't know. Oh he's now,

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.159
<v Speaker 1>he's around. I keep track of the he's around. Are

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they filming blasts in the past two? No. There, they

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.879
<v Speaker 1>make a scar face, but it's not scar face, it's

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<v Speaker 1>scab face and it starts breaded pressure. Yes, good idea,

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. So anyway, they were like, wow, funk,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't work with this beetle juice guy. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>gross pervert. And then the family the deets Is find

0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.360
<v Speaker 1>out about the ghosts the Maitlands and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to exploit them, and like have it be

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<v Speaker 1>a whole We're gonna have like a little museum. People

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.359
<v Speaker 1>can come and look at the all the ghosts. It

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<v Speaker 1>almost becomes a roller coaster movie. Oh yeah, but it doesn't.

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 1>But then it doesn't, and then it's a roller coaster

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.119
<v Speaker 1>opportunity Jesus. After that, after they find out and they

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 1>want to exploit, and they invite all their friends up

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.440
<v Speaker 1>from New York City and then they have the dancing,

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a dancing dancing everyone and that party is dressed to

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<v Speaker 1>the Nines. It's always amazing to me, no matter what

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.199
<v Speaker 1>movie it happens in where people dress up to go

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<v Speaker 1>to someone else's house. It's just like, in what world

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<v Speaker 1>would I I mean, I mean, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>a jacket, but your best in a tuxedo. Mike, you

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.439
<v Speaker 1>you came like looking nice. You know, you had like

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a top layer. Now you're in your your your fun

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:56.120
<v Speaker 1>vegan punk layer. And I did not come on this

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>podcast to be disrespected like this. There's a story every

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:04.439
<v Speaker 1>if it tells his story. Yeah, no, I'm kidding, it's closed.

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Is your story? Woke up outside, I'm gonna go over

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 1>us in the bathroom. My head somehow slept in a

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 1>tree top. Um. So the next thing that happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>the job is the details are trying to exploit Adam

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 1>and Barbara. Otho now has the book, the Handbook for

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the Recently Deceased, and he like, does this spell or

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.680
<v Speaker 1>something to like summon them, and so he summons Adam

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and Barbara. But they get all like weird and old

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and they start decaying and stuff. So they're like crape right,

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Lydia is like, oh ship, I need this

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 1>beetle juice guy's help to fix everything and incomes the

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:56.400
<v Speaker 1>big problem. You mean when he forces a teenage girl

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<v Speaker 1>to marry him. Okay, the first of all, First he

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a big snake, which I've come for your daughter,

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Come for your daughter, chuck, which is a beautiful line.

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 1>And he said it to a perfect like it's why Yeah,

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a fake perfect says it to a real purpose. That's

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.119
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of movie magic. Yeah, that's just

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>something you can only get in the Burton verse. But yeah,

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that the wedding scene is it's crazy how every like

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 1>everything about it is a big old problem and it's

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>still so much fun. Where he's forcing a teenager to

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>marry him is actively like kind of like shoving her

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>around it and being like and then and then whenever

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Gina Davis tries to speak, he puts a zipper on

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>her mouth. He put Yeah, it's every frame a woman

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>is in that scene is just like insane. Yeah, Gena

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Davis is arc in that scene. Goes zipper on the mouth,

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>metal plate over the mouth, sent to the desert, attacked

0:23:55.720 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>by a giant snack. It really ramps up quickly. It's

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>heightening baby rule of threes. So then I mean beetle

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Juice is the rule of three is taken to the

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>extreme feminist icon. Beetle juice. Yeah. So the Maitlands are like, no,

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>we can't let him marry this teenage girl. So they

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>find a way to stop him. Very cool wedding dress on.

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not like the other else duh marion suit. Yeah,

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and then they're like, no, we don't marry each other.

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>And they save Lydia from being married to a pervert.

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>And then Beetle Juice, I forget what happens to him

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>at the end. He gets the waiting room. He gets uh,

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>because they come back. Barbara comes back on the big

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>sandworm snake and it crashes through the ceiling and feminist icon,

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the big snake, feminist icon, big snake. Right. And then

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>at the end, the Maitlands and the Diets has learned

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to coexist. They just live in a hat in the house. Altogether.

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>It's one big, happy family. That's the weirdest part. That's

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>that's the weirdest part of the movie Commune. Not not

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that hundred and something you're all dead man tries to

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>marry a teenager, or that a worm is a big

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>plot point, but that these people are like, yeah, well,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>let these ghosts raise our child because they're like, how

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>do you do on the math? It's another big fun scene. Yeah,

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and then yeah is up, yeah, up on the wires

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and dancing. That's great. So that's this story. Beetles live

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>with them. It's weird that he's the it's weird that

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>he's the villain of the movie and he's barely in

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the movie, and it's like you're never rooting for him,

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and he's the title character. And yeah, like it's part

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of why this movie is a bit confusing to me. No,

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I understand it a hundred percent. Yeah, well you're you're sick,

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>perfect with a lot of problems. Listen, it took me

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a while to peel off the s off on my face.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just say, we're usually not this mean to

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>our guest. So sorry, No, I've seen this is You

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>should see what I've been subjected to in this room.

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>It would I also Mike said it looked like I

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>woke up in a tree. True, okay, No, I said

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it looked like you slept in a tree. I woke

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>up out of the tree. Yeah, you fell out anyway,

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:28.479
<v Speaker 1>So have I described Jamie's clothes as quote bought by

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>the Pound before that was that. I think about that

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<v Speaker 1>like one. That's fine. It all right, let's talk about

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the portrayal of women about in this room. Let's start

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>with this room. I think Caitlin's great, thank you, but

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. You're so the main female character is Barbara,

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and then we've also got Lydia and Delia is the stepmother,

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and then we have a few like secondary characters like

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Juno is the caseworker who has her throat slit open

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and smoke comes out of it. That's a funny. I

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>love her in the football team together, Oh yeah, that's

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>great when they keep calling our coach. And then Jane

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Butterfield is like the neighbor who's like trying to get

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>them to sell the house. And then as far as

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>feminist iconic, who I would say he transcends gender, I

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>would say the bel Juice is definitely genderless, genderless icon No,

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>in all seriousness, he's a man, and he's a horny

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 1>man and oh god, I don't even know. Of course,

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I pictured like very like painted white with a bunch

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of green scabs all over it. I have to change

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>my under to script in Okay is it too much

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to say that. I bet you he comes scabs. That

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>too much to say. So that's the perfect in regards

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.479
<v Speaker 1>to coming scabs. So there's beetle Juice in there. Sounds

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>day in my head. It's like hitting open a beehive

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>with a bat. Let's quit. Beetle Juice is in the

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>movie for like twenty minutes. He's usually sexually assaulting a

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>woman in some way kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>at very least he's presented as a gross, horny dude. True,

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>but we're not supposed to be rooting for him, which

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is a confusing thing about this movie. But he's like

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>still I would argue like a beloved character, right, Like

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>people are like, I'm already like bees for Halloween. Yeah,

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a rebit of beetle Juice. There was the Beetle Juice

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>cartoon which came out. He was a much nicer character,

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and him and Lydia were like friends. Yeah. Beetle Juice

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>was sometimes like learn lessons. Yeah, like, well, sometimes I

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>guess you have to treat your scaps. Sometimes you share

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>your scaps with your friends. Let's not talk about I

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>can't stop thinking about beetle Juice coming. You're welcome listeners.

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I can't apologize enough for what this discussion

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>has become. I'm sorry I didn't say it sooner. Oh

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>excuse me. This is discourse this important. Are here to

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>be like what does fiers? We're calling on you know,

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>we're not alright. So Beetlejuice, he's sexually assault Sparbara. He

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>does a surprise kiss. He's a skirtpeaker. He's there's like

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a part where he all he like kind of fondles

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Alec Baldwin and then he turns around and then also

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>grabs Barbara. So he's just like fondling them both. And

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>he's horny. He's extremely horny. He's at one point, you know,

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>builds a whorehouse her words, and then a very sharp

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>beetle shoe, very horny beetle juice Shimmy's over to it.

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I forget how does he get sharp? Just holding him

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>because he's tiny. He's in like the model town that

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>they have in the so she has him, he's tiny,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and then he just grows spikes and she drops him.

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>He has like magic powers because he can just like

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>send her to the desert. I feel like there's wearing

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Alec Baldwin's clothes all of a sudden point. There's a

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of world building in this movie, but also not

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.479
<v Speaker 1>enough because I don't understand, like what the limit of

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>what he can do. I don't understand the world. Kind

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of like a genie, right, kind of, except there's no like,

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like a genie and a bad a

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>bad one like Jafar when he becomes a genie at

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the end of the Laddin. Like the Return of Jafar,

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>it would be that highly highly underrated sequel, the Return

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>of Jaffar. I think it's looking for lone gay icon.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll say it. I think most Disney villains are gay icons. Yeah,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>for Scar gay icon. Yeah all, I mean pretty much

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>what's his name from Beating the Beast? Gay icon? Nah,

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he's like a fun boy icon. He's still a icon's

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>he's an icon, but just feminist icon. Yeah. I don't

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>even know where to begin with this movie. This is

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>like a weird one to discuss because Barbara is i'd say,

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>plays just as active as a role as Adam does. Yeah,

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>but they're not what's they're not like and I don't know,

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>but they're the emotional they're like the emotional connection to

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the movie. You want them to not turn into dust. Right. Yeah, there,

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I would argue, like dual protagonists, there's like not one

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>more than the other that sort of has like the

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>main focal point. I see like they're playing pretty equal parts,

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>although I feel like Alec Baldwin's character is maybe a

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit more active because he's the one who like

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>figures out you have to draw the door, and he's

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the one who's like doing more to try to read

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the book and try to figure out the situation. They're

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>both doing like haunting stuff in equal parts. But I

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like, yeah, if you break it down, like if

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we did like a dialogue breakdown for this one, for sure,

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Alec Baldwin would edge give us out. But then at

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the end we get the big feminist icon big snake,

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and so it really says the day. So that's that's good. Yeah,

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that's true because Adam just like gets in a little

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>car and drives it into Bele Juice foot that. Yeah,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>jumps are so many fun goofs. But yeah, it's true.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Like so Gina David's character kind of safe to day.

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>She goes and she harnesses the feminist icon big snake,

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what leads to beetlejuices. Denise. Yeah, I thought she

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like responsive, you know, responsible for the

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>big end. Let's talk about Lydia, Okay, okay, kind of

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>like I had to follow up thought and I okay,

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>So I was looking up because once I was like

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>watching clips, I was like, oh, for sure, there's a

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>million shitty like listicles about how Lydia is a feminist icon,

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and there are They're all so funny, like my favorite one.

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I found one that was called nine times Lydia deats

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was a nineties feminist hero. First of all, this movie

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>came out, you fucking idiot, and sorry for calling out

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>this Bustle writer, but Bustles like corporate feminism and I

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>don't care. So anyways, they're like Lydia is a feminist

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>because she's weird, is a feminist because she doesn't wear

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>primary colors. She's a little bit different. So I struggle

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>with Lydia. Granted, when I was younger, I thought she

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>was the coolest person ever, but I do, like, I

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 1>think that she's just like a weird Tim Burton jerk off,

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like fantasy girl, and and she's acting I mean, like

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>as a character. She's she's active and kind of I

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>can't even really think of an example of like what

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>anything that she does that really influences the direction the

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>story takes, or like, well, she becomes like their connection

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>to the world, so she's sort of like they're right,

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think she's mostly there to just be like

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.720
<v Speaker 1>what's confusing? Well, not that any of these characters feel

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like real people, except for Feminist, Like I'm so sorry,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we all know apart from him, everyone's a very like

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>tim Burton esque version of a person. But Lydia especially

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>felt one dimensional. And it's just like, oh, she's like

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a teen, a struggling teen, and she's moody but also

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>suicidal all of a sudden, and it's like, yeah, she's

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>like bring me, Like what are you talking about? She's

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a problem, right, I mean it's like a very weird

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>depiction of like mental illness. Certain I don't like, it's

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>just it was bizarre that choice. Yeah, I don't. I

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>think she's just like she falls into that same buget

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about over and over and over. It's

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>just like she's not like the other girls, but she

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>is because she's still conventionally attractive so it's just like

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Tim Burton's version of that very boring

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>constant in movies. Yeah, she's different. She's like the equivalent

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of Julia Roberts fixing a car and my best friend wedding,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like oh, any woman, nay or runaway right, I don't know, Like, yeah,

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I still think that she has the best hair in

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>the entire world and however happens, and I still want

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to be her, but it also feels like a trick thought.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the only the only big part of

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like feminist incap he Mike literally texted me several hours

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>ago and requested that I asked to be called it

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the entire time, but I'll take it this. But I

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>think the only part where where Lydia's character is like

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>really part of the storyline is right at the end

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>when they're like about to die and Beetlejuice is there

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and Adam and Barbara both like, we have to save

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>this little girl, and it's also like, well, is she

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>not that little? It was like weird that they like

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that they like, I don't know, categorize her as like

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>this little girl's like, well, she's like a teenager, and

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, but it was. Yeah, her character

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>is very like the more I thought about it was

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>more like she's just always like watch out coming and

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>she says like there to tell Adam and Barba that

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>her parents are walking up the stairs. That's kind of

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>what her character does. She could be written out of

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>this movie except for the last beat, where like she

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>becomes relevant to the plot only when she's being forced

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to marry a corpse like which I've found it interesting

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that she didn't try to put up more of a fight,

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like because he was just like we're getting married, and

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>she's like, well, I think he like casts some weird spell.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Like she was like trying to say no and like

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>you maybe say his name and he like cast that

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>weird spell on her and then he was talking through

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, oh yeah, but yeah. Yeah. There's in that

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>whole scene it's kind of jarring to watch because there's

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>so many like people taking two steps and then be like, hey,

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. I'm like keep walking, what do you do?

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Stop the wedding? But they stand in place and then

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 1>be able just like IM gonna put a steel plant

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>in your mouth. Like there's there's there was some yeah,

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>all someone has to do is say, just reatle juice,

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>which is people they can't like it takes some decades

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>to do it. The stairs one, okay, let's try and

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>one two more times and then and then he gets them.

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>He gets them with his weirders that we don't know

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the rules. I'm now we sure don't. The scene where

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>he makes Lydia try to guess his name is out

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>of control because he immediately shows that he's like, all right,

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll show you, let's play shards. And then he shows

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>her a beetle and she goes beetle and then he

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>shows her orange juice, and she goes for breakfast like

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I would immediately be like bug, like I wouldn't go

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>do exactly what kind of bug it was, and then

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not know what And great product placement to Mini made

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you gotta listen, who else is gonna pay for those

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:58.439
<v Speaker 1>big spikes and snakes other than made orange juice? Who's

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna make beetle juice? Pointy, you got to ask the

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>big business questions. Yeah, that movie is definitely in the

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>pocket of Big Orange. Feminist ion Big Orange. Every time,

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>every time Bald juices on the screen, there's a very

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>gratuitous use of like fun sound effects. There's a literal

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:25.720
<v Speaker 1>boying at one plane. There's a boy in this movie.

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>It does was like a high amount of Danny Elfman strings.

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I love Danny Elfman score. Though, Oh Boy, Spiderman, Spider

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Man and Men in Black Wild and several. Back to

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>School is a really good one. I've never seen the movie.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it would fare very well on this

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>podcast most movies, but I think it's a good movie.

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess like the main points I have for the

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>movie is that, like it's weird that most of the

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>time you just see beetle Juice on screen he is

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>sexually assaulting one of the female characters or forcing them

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>well the whole thing. So and then and then like

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>in a stanker like he's just veryone's like a beetle Juice.

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>It's what he does. He's gonna hunk your boob. He

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>come up and he's gonna hunk you. And that's what

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>beetle Juice does. And everyone's like that's not cool, and

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I'm gonna do well. It's all about complacentness

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and the beetle Well, so the reason that he needs

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Lydia to marry him. Is that he's like, I'm kind

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>of like a tourist. He's basically needs like a green card.

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>But it seems like he, well, we don't understand the

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>rules of this world very well. Yeah, whatever needs because

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>he can be summoned and he can like live among

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.319
<v Speaker 1>these people. So what does he want exactly? Does he

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to like live among the living

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>like what? Anyway? Sometimes it just sounds like I'm bored

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and I would rather not be here. Yeah, I think

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he wants to get out, just like wreak havoc on

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the world. Look up more skirts. There's so many skirts

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>down in the world, that's true. Lots of skirts to

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>pick up for this old scap, my dad says before

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the house. Every more, I just remember somebody's skirts to

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:22.399
<v Speaker 1>peak up out there for this old scaph god. Anyway. Yeah,

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>so he's just like, I gotta marry this teenage girl.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't he try to marry Barbara or some interesting criticism? Yeah,

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>well why not? Why not? Why not? Kately? Why isn't he?

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I think when he first is brought out, he immediately

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>asked Alec Baldwin if his marriage is going well, that's true,

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>he's closing. But the thing is Beetle Juice. You know

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>he wants to lock it down, isn't He's rude. I

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>think Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice is the original pickup artist. I

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>think he started of negging people mystery from the TV

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>show Pickup Artists. One of the feminist Nine Reasons nineties icon.

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Beetle Juice is a is a feminist pickup artist. He

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 1>uses your voice to marry you. Yeah, he takes away

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>your voice and speaks for you. He did not lip

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>sink that very well either, because, like Michael Keaton has

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of skills, I don't know if lip sinking

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>is one of them. He's amazing in this movie. He's

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>so good, he's it's great. There's never I feel like

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>this movie could only work with Michael Keaton as the character.

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like most other people are so like he's

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>so charming that you're like, oh, Beetle Juice, you scamp.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>But if it was like someone else to be like,

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>this guy needs to go to demon jail wherever. Oh yeah,

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>your test, the Steve Bushey test test. I don't know.

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you might be able to do it. I

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know. To play Beetle Juice like not, it wouldn't

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>be the same. But I think you could have done Yeah,

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Billina could not do this part. I think a lot

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of Michael Keaton's lines were yeah, that's true, if you wanted.

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest with you. I still don't know

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>who he is. Shut up, I don't know who he is.

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel sick you've seen because I don't have I seen.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, if I've seen Spiderman shift,

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>do you have you've seen Beetle Juice two hundreds? I

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>mean two hundred might be an exaggeration, but I've seen

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot. And I have seen Spider Man too, probably

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>zero times. It's a classic. I sew Spider Man three weird.

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.240
<v Speaker 1>That's bad. That was a bad one. Son. In the theater,

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the dancing is really I love the dancing. And over grace,

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>where's that guy? He's probably trying to find the rest

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of his name. Where's Haley Joelasmand? There? Actually I know

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Jabs the Coole days ago. Haley Joelasmand was near a

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>herd of cattle, and it's like, where are you? Can

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I come? I'm so Scara heard of cattle. Recently, I

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>was in Pennsylvania visiting my mom, and there's I saw llamas,

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I saw cows, I saw horses just in field around.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't we were not at the same cow field.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And I guess what's the point. I know, Hey, let's

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about whether this movie passes the Bechel tests. Yeah, yeah,

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 1>is and yeah, let's talk about it or yeah, isn't yet?

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Does I think it does? I think it does too,

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>It does. Yeah. I was really keeping an eye out.

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I picked this and I really hope

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 1>it does. Everything's riding on this. Yeah, and it does.

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>And right away, like the Jane Butterfield character comes up

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to the house and she's like, I found a family

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>who wants to buy this from you, and Da da da,

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, go away, Jane. There's a lot of Yeah,

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of like it passes a lot of

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:54.439
<v Speaker 1>times for a movie that has prominent scab man skirt peak,

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Teenager is an undead sexual assailant, just to prove that

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>it is a flawed system because it passes many times. Yeah,

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Like every time Barbara and Juno talk, right, it's like

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>they're just talking about like you gotta be better at

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>being dead whatever she talks about throat. Yeah, if you

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>look up that actress, young, total hottie. Yeah, I want

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to know. I wonder what the woman who works behind,

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>like the woman who plays the receptionist in the one

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 1>who's like, too bad, I slip my rest. Yeah, yeah,

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 1>my little accident, and I want to I should have

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>looked up who that is because I was like, you're

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>like fun. Yeah. And then there's a lady who's like

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>saw it in half. You see her torso sitting and

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>then is her legs Yeah, and Beetle Juice tries to

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>grab her leg and then her top half slaps him. Yeah,

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 1>so he's not doing great. Yeah yeah, but she's she's

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>she's only only womanho stuck up for herself in this

0:45:55.320 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>movie against Beetle Geese until he gets eaten by feminist iconpics.

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy to just see like two feminist icons in

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the same scene together and one gets eaten by Also

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>scenes where Lydia talks to her step mom and sees

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>where Barbara talks to Lydia a lot of times like

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>there are men in the room when that happens, but

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like isolated conversations between two women that passed its handily.

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if you had a dialogue breakdown, I

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 1>think there might in this movie. It might be that

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>women talk more than men, because I feel like there's

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 1>more prominent female characters in the in the movie, Like

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the male characters that like have a bunch of lines

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>are Alec Baldwin, the Dad, and Otho and Beetle Juice

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>probably is behind all of them because he's barely there.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like because then you have like big,

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like big monologues from Juno. You have the lady in

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the reception, and then you have like Barbara and Catherine

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>O'Hara and Lydia like all yeah, and you have like

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>all the people from the party, but none of them

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>really talk. They'll just kind of like to sit there.

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 1>And then that was me to that woman that he

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 1>brought for some reason, like so much we didn't really. Yeah,

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I hated him as a kid as a kid because

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like he's trying to ruin the house that

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>these people love. And then now I'm like he's like

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.959
<v Speaker 1>a funny character. He's fun he's a great dancer. There's

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a scene where Lydia is talking to something about ghosts,

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and then Delia is like, my agent Bernard is coming

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>for the dinner party, not to be confused with Bernard

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Bernard from Spider Man Too. I really got to watch this.

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll describe it to you. There's this great seed that

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>James Franco's in in Spider Man Too, where they're trying

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to replicate the magic between Batman and his butler Michael Caine,

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's James Frego and his butler Bernard and Bernard Enters.

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the only line he had in the whole movie.

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>He's out of focus and he says, so your father

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 1>only obsessed over his work, right, Yeah, And then James

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Franco said, good night Bernard, who James Franco play in

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man Harry best best friend. But it's complicated because

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>he's Spider Man. Let's talk about anyways, what if Spider

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Man starting? It's complicated. Another Alex Balban joint. One of

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the only movies my father has ever talked to me about.

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a movie about divorce. What do you think is

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.359
<v Speaker 1>going to yeah? Just yeah. When you get divorced, all

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to do is see other media about divorce.

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:43.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, you'd like to see yourself and the things

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you watch. It's complicated, so he only watches it's complicated

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and Blue Crush, Yeah, the surf moviescing No, I think

0:48:54.960 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>he's just like Surfing's great. Hey, let's write the movie

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>on our nipple scale. Okay, so we write the movie

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 1>on a scale of zero to five nipples based on

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>its portrayal of women. So I'm going to give it.

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh Man, again, this is a tough one. I mean,

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>just thinking back to all the discourse we had about Scabby,

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Come my daughter. Yes, the guy who's like a tonic

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>sales means like Scabby, come here to tell you about

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>this new Tonic I've made up. Don't come and just scare.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I brought it up again. He's a little

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>bit on the nose of the sales. I'm gonna give it,

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess two and a half nipples because there are

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pretty significant roles for women. They're all

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>mostly playing a pretty active role in the story and

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the narrative to like move it forward, I'd say probably

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>just as much as any of the male characters. Is

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>concerning to me that pretty much anytime build juices on screen,

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>he is sexually assaulting the nearest female character, and while

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the other characters are like, oh, you're a pervert, he's gross,

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.399
<v Speaker 1>he's bad us as a as a society, or like,

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>he's funny, he's funny, he's fine. I like him. His

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>penis looks like it's pretty much just us. But now

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>we've put that question on Oh my god, they're so okay,

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>look it up. Okay. So yeah, So two and a

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>half nipples, just because I'm not really sure what to

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>make of this movie, and the nipples belong to the

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>dog that they have to avoid crashing into dog them

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the dog that kills them, and they have to swerve

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to miss the dog, and they crash and go over

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a bridge. So that dog, which I'm guessing has eight nipples,

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>because if a dog is anything like a cat, it

0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.720
<v Speaker 1>has eight nipples. This has been cat facts with Caitlin.

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>So two and a half nipples, and they belonged to

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the shaggy dog that dog killed them. He was on

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.879
<v Speaker 1>a board that was holding up the car and then

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>he jumped off, and that just proves my point that

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I've made over the years that every dog is rude.

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that fall would not have killed it.

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Was such a short fall. Yeah, it was like I've

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>jumped off of things into water that high and I'm

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 1>still here. Yeah, they could have escaped that car. Yeah

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>they don't. I don't believe that they died. I just

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>think they didn't want to live anymore. They just they

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.959
<v Speaker 1>hit the water and they immediately were like, well, we've

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>resigned to this now. Guys in this field guicerratic fan

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 1>fiction I've been reading while you've been having this conversation.

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>He's referred to as beach. Beach just eyes buled out

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.839
<v Speaker 1>of his head at the look of Lydia's corset. Oh,

0:51:56.200 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I want him to big snake. I wanted to have

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 1>sex with big him. Yeah. Yeah, goes stir right through

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>beetle juice, but beetle juice exploded spikes, which is the

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>way that he comes. Okay, I'm gonna give it. Sorry,

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that was like a very intense fan fact. Well link it,

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln description this disgusting fan fiction. Just kidding, Okay, I'm

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 1>going to give it. I'm gonna give it to I'm

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna give it two nippies for for all the reasons

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you described. But it's I don't know, like I wish

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Jeanne Davis's character was more active. I think that mine

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>is the end. You could totally write out when on

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>a writer out of this movie and it would not

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>make that much of a difference. There are a lot

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of female characters, but not all of them are important

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 1>enough to the plot. Be Juice feminist icon though, and

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that's important. It's I mean, at the end of the day,

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>we got a feminist icon out of this movie, and

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:04.399
<v Speaker 1>what more could you ask for? Well, part, I mean

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the movie if you isolate the conflict, which is that

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>they don't want these people in their house. They need

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Beetle Juices help, but as soon as they get it,

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>they don't want it anymore. And then it's like a

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.399
<v Speaker 1>matter of getting rid of I don't know, like all

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>over the place. Yeah, the story is I think the

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>problem was like maybe because the female characters aren't as

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>like active as we'd like them to be. Is because

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 1>like the narrative is bananas and like not that well constructed. Yeah,

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you heard it here first from Caitlin and her really

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 1>good opinions. Do you have two degrees? I have two

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>degrees in one of them is a master's in screen

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>running from Boston university. Uh, all of you who are

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 1>like show us your degree. I don't have to show

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you anything. I have nine degrees. No, I don't believe

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you believe me. All of them are in film. I

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<v Speaker 1>got them from various universities, nine different ones. To be exact,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to college. So I'm gonna give this. It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>From zero to five. I feel like three is too generous,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to say three because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>most of the male characters are in the movie are

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<v Speaker 1>very passive, like other than wanting to turn to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the whole town and turn it into an amusement park

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<v Speaker 1>the Confines of Death. Yeah, but just like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like but like the Father, he literally just like sits

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<v Speaker 1>in a room for most of the of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, yeah, the conflict is that, like Delia wants

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<v Speaker 1>to like redo the house. So it's like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of her push. She's pushing the conflict more

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<v Speaker 1>way more than he is. But other than that, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think like Barbara and Adam are like very even.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like he is kind of like being like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh did you draw the door and knock on it?

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<v Speaker 1>But She's like we got to read the book, like

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<v Speaker 1>she's like pushing for them to do the stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I feel like it's pretty even, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, really the movie is a vehicle for Tim

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Burton painting people's faces with scabs. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>mostly that and mostly him building little tiny models of towns.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiny head, feminist icon, tiny head feminist icon, feminist icon,

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<v Speaker 1>woman's legs. There's a lot of feminist icons in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This Woman of Hollywood literally feminist icon. Football team. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many team and I'm gonna I'm gonna so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say three because I because you never know and

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<v Speaker 1>it's never said, And I'm just gonna say that big

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<v Speaker 1>Snake is a woman what very easily could be No

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<v Speaker 1>what you know what? You can't tell just by looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him. Who are you giving your nipples to? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to put those three nipples on, but two fur

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and then one in the middle of the head. Okay, yeah, snake, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my my nipples are penises and their beel juice, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should end the episode. Can my nipples

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<v Speaker 1>be the nipples of the woman in total recall that

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<v Speaker 1>has three boobs? Okay, well you know it's always great

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to ask yes because I sent this ramission. So Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being here. You for doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people find you online? I'm at Michael Brucey

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 1>on all the social media and I have a website

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>micro dot com that I have never updated, so it's pointless.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is made on Wicks. I knew it, and

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it's free, and it tells you that it's made on

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Wicks because I'm not going to pay money for it

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<v Speaker 1>to not say that I knew it, of course. And

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Lave who are recording for us. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the name of your podcast network again? The brain Machine

0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Network to brain Machine Comedy dot com. Hell yeah, gotta

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>check out brain Machine Comedy dot com. Although Mike did

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 1>suggest that it should be rebrand it is life Little Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should be called this little Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all for it. You heard it here first. Thank you

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:08.680
<v Speaker 1>again for having us here. Thanks for being here. You

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<v Speaker 1>can follow us at Becto Cast on Twitter, on Instagram.

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>You can check us out on Facebook. We've got a website,

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<v Speaker 1>pets dot com made not made on Wicks. Squares dice.

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>That'll that's it. That'll do beetle juice. Beetle juice, beetle juice,

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<v Speaker 1>Come scabs,