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Speaker 1: is Caitlin. This is our backtel cast. It's about movies.

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Speaker 1: It's about women. It's about women and movies. Do they

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Speaker 1: pretty cool, which means Aristotle isn't with us. Uh he

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Speaker 1: we're we're both here in New York. We're going to

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Speaker 1: Quick update. I don't have Mike's hard that's on me,

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Speaker 1: I was in Boston last night and I met this person,

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Speaker 1: to come in here. Yeah, that's encouraging. No, I get

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Speaker 1: exactly what you mean. And if you are like Kevin

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Speaker 1: and you don't know what the Bechtel test is, we're

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Speaker 1: here to tell you. It's a test that you apply.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you handed out that whole story keeping it.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know what the Bechtel test is, it's

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Speaker 1: a test that you apply to movies or TV shows

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Speaker 1: or anything with a story. It requires that two women

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Speaker 1: So our guest today he's a delight. He lives in Actually,

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Speaker 1: Machine shout out to life. It's my Hi, Hi. I

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the movie, which is Beetlejuice. And you

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Speaker 1: the gathering of the Juggalos. I didn't know what a

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Speaker 1: So I like lived my life thing. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Jones? Continue to talk? I need to know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my favorite movie, Beetle Juice is about beetle juice. And

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Speaker 1: let these ghosts raise our child because they're like, how

417
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: do you do on the math? It's another big fun scene. Yeah,

418
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: and then yeah is up, yeah, up on the wires

419
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: and dancing. That's great. So that's this story. Beetles live

420
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: with them. It's weird that he's the it's weird that

421
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: he's the villain of the movie and he's barely in

422
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: the movie, and it's like you're never rooting for him,

423
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: and he's the title character. And yeah, like it's part

424
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: of why this movie is a bit confusing to me. No,

425
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: I understand it a hundred percent. Yeah, well you're you're sick,

426
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: perfect with a lot of problems. Listen, it took me

427
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: a while to peel off the s off on my face.

428
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: Let me just say, we're usually not this mean to

429
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: our guest. So sorry, No, I've seen this is You

430
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: should see what I've been subjected to in this room.

431
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: It would I also Mike said it looked like I

432
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: woke up in a tree. True, okay, No, I said

433
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: it looked like you slept in a tree. I woke

434
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: up out of the tree. Yeah, you fell out anyway,

435
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 1: So have I described Jamie's clothes as quote bought by

436
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: the Pound before that was that. I think about that

437
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: like one. That's fine. It all right, let's talk about

438
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: the portrayal of women about in this room. Let's start

439
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: with this room. I think Caitlin's great, thank you, but

440
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not. You're so the main female character is Barbara,

441
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: and then we've also got Lydia and Delia is the stepmother,

442
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: and then we have a few like secondary characters like

443
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Juno is the caseworker who has her throat slit open

444
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: and smoke comes out of it. That's a funny. I

445
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: love her in the football team together, Oh yeah, that's

446
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: great when they keep calling our coach. And then Jane

447
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: Butterfield is like the neighbor who's like trying to get

448
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: them to sell the house. And then as far as

449
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: feminist iconic, who I would say he transcends gender, I

450
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: would say the bel Juice is definitely genderless, genderless icon No,

451
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, he's a man, and he's a horny

452
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: man and oh god, I don't even know. Of course,

453
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: I pictured like very like painted white with a bunch

454
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: of green scabs all over it. I have to change

455
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: my under to script in Okay is it too much

456
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: to say that. I bet you he comes scabs. That

457
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: too much to say. So that's the perfect in regards

458
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: to coming scabs. So there's beetle Juice in there. Sounds

459
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: day in my head. It's like hitting open a beehive

460
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: with a bat. Let's quit. Beetle Juice is in the

461
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: movie for like twenty minutes. He's usually sexually assaulting a

462
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: woman in some way kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah,

463
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: at very least he's presented as a gross, horny dude. True,

464
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: but we're not supposed to be rooting for him, which

465
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: is a confusing thing about this movie. But he's like

466
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: still I would argue like a beloved character, right, Like

467
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: people are like, I'm already like bees for Halloween. Yeah,

468
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: a rebit of beetle Juice. There was the Beetle Juice

469
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: cartoon which came out. He was a much nicer character,

470
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: and him and Lydia were like friends. Yeah. Beetle Juice

471
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: was sometimes like learn lessons. Yeah, like, well, sometimes I

472
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: guess you have to treat your scaps. Sometimes you share

473
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: your scaps with your friends. Let's not talk about I

474
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about beetle Juice coming. You're welcome listeners.

475
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't apologize enough for what this discussion

476
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: has become. I'm sorry I didn't say it sooner. Oh

477
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: excuse me. This is discourse this important. Are here to

478
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: be like what does fiers? We're calling on you know,

479
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: we're not alright. So Beetlejuice, he's sexually assault Sparbara. He

480
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: does a surprise kiss. He's a skirtpeaker. He's there's like

481
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: a part where he all he like kind of fondles

482
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin and then he turns around and then also

483
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: grabs Barbara. So he's just like fondling them both. And

484
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: he's horny. He's extremely horny. He's at one point, you know,

485
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: builds a whorehouse her words, and then a very sharp

486
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: beetle shoe, very horny beetle juice Shimmy's over to it.

487
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: I forget how does he get sharp? Just holding him

488
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: because he's tiny. He's in like the model town that

489
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: they have in the so she has him, he's tiny,

490
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: and then he just grows spikes and she drops him.

491
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: He has like magic powers because he can just like

492
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: send her to the desert. I feel like there's wearing

493
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin's clothes all of a sudden point. There's a

494
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: lot of world building in this movie, but also not

495
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: enough because I don't understand, like what the limit of

496
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: what he can do. I don't understand the world. Kind

497
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: of like a genie, right, kind of, except there's no like,

498
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: so it's not like a genie and a bad a

499
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: bad one like Jafar when he becomes a genie at

500
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: the end of the Laddin. Like the Return of Jafar,

501
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: it would be that highly highly underrated sequel, the Return

502
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: of Jaffar. I think it's looking for lone gay icon.

503
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: I'll say it. I think most Disney villains are gay icons. Yeah,

504
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: for Scar gay icon. Yeah all, I mean pretty much

505
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: what's his name from Beating the Beast? Gay icon? Nah,

506
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: he's like a fun boy icon. He's still a icon's

507
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: he's an icon, but just feminist icon. Yeah. I don't

508
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: even know where to begin with this movie. This is

509
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: like a weird one to discuss because Barbara is i'd say,

510
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: plays just as active as a role as Adam does. Yeah,

511
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: but they're not what's they're not like and I don't know,

512
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: but they're the emotional they're like the emotional connection to

513
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: the movie. You want them to not turn into dust. Right. Yeah, there,

514
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I would argue, like dual protagonists, there's like not one

515
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: more than the other that sort of has like the

516
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: main focal point. I see like they're playing pretty equal parts,

517
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: although I feel like Alec Baldwin's character is maybe a

518
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: little bit more active because he's the one who like

519
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: figures out you have to draw the door, and he's

520
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: the one who's like doing more to try to read

521
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: the book and try to figure out the situation. They're

522
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: both doing like haunting stuff in equal parts. But I

523
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, if you break it down, like if

524
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: we did like a dialogue breakdown for this one, for sure,

525
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin would edge give us out. But then at

526
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: the end we get the big feminist icon big snake,

527
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: and so it really says the day. So that's that's good. Yeah,

528
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: that's true because Adam just like gets in a little

529
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: car and drives it into Bele Juice foot that. Yeah,

530
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: jumps are so many fun goofs. But yeah, it's true.

531
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: Like so Gina David's character kind of safe to day.

532
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: She goes and she harnesses the feminist icon big snake,

533
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: that's what leads to beetlejuices. Denise. Yeah, I thought she

534
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: was kind of like responsive, you know, responsible for the

535
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: big end. Let's talk about Lydia, Okay, okay, kind of

536
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: like I had to follow up thought and I okay,

537
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: So I was looking up because once I was like

538
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: watching clips, I was like, oh, for sure, there's a

539
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: million shitty like listicles about how Lydia is a feminist icon,

540
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: and there are They're all so funny, like my favorite one.

541
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: I found one that was called nine times Lydia deats

542
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: was a nineties feminist hero. First of all, this movie

543
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: came out, you fucking idiot, and sorry for calling out

544
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: this Bustle writer, but Bustles like corporate feminism and I

545
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: don't care. So anyways, they're like Lydia is a feminist

546
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: because she's weird, is a feminist because she doesn't wear

547
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: primary colors. She's a little bit different. So I struggle

548
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: with Lydia. Granted, when I was younger, I thought she

549
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: was the coolest person ever, but I do, like, I

550
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: think that she's just like a weird Tim Burton jerk off,

551
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: like fantasy girl, and and she's acting I mean, like

552
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: as a character. She's she's active and kind of I

553
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: can't even really think of an example of like what

554
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: anything that she does that really influences the direction the

555
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: story takes, or like, well, she becomes like their connection

556
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: to the world, so she's sort of like they're right,

557
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: But I think she's mostly there to just be like

558
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: what's confusing? Well, not that any of these characters feel

559
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: like real people, except for Feminist, Like I'm so sorry,

560
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: we all know apart from him, everyone's a very like

561
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: tim Burton esque version of a person. But Lydia especially

562
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: felt one dimensional. And it's just like, oh, she's like

563
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: a teen, a struggling teen, and she's moody but also

564
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: suicidal all of a sudden, and it's like, yeah, she's

565
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: like bring me, Like what are you talking about? She's

566
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: a problem, right, I mean it's like a very weird

567
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: depiction of like mental illness. Certain I don't like, it's

568
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: just it was bizarre that choice. Yeah, I don't. I

569
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: think she's just like she falls into that same buget

570
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: that we talked about over and over and over. It's

571
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: just like she's not like the other girls, but she

572
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: is because she's still conventionally attractive so it's just like

573
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't know Tim Burton's version of that very boring

574
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: constant in movies. Yeah, she's different. She's like the equivalent

575
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: of Julia Roberts fixing a car and my best friend wedding,

576
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: like oh, any woman, nay or runaway right, I don't know, Like, yeah,

577
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: I still think that she has the best hair in

578
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: the entire world and however happens, and I still want

579
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: to be her, but it also feels like a trick thought.

580
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I feel like the only the only big part of

581
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: like feminist incap he Mike literally texted me several hours

582
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: ago and requested that I asked to be called it

583
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: the entire time, but I'll take it this. But I

584
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: think the only part where where Lydia's character is like

585
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: really part of the storyline is right at the end

586
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: when they're like about to die and Beetlejuice is there

587
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: and Adam and Barbara both like, we have to save

588
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: this little girl, and it's also like, well, is she

589
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: not that little? It was like weird that they like

590
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: that they like, I don't know, categorize her as like

591
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: this little girl's like, well, she's like a teenager, and

592
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know, but it was. Yeah, her character

593
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: is very like the more I thought about it was

594
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: more like she's just always like watch out coming and

595
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: she says like there to tell Adam and Barba that

596
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: her parents are walking up the stairs. That's kind of

597
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: what her character does. She could be written out of

598
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: this movie except for the last beat, where like she

599
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: becomes relevant to the plot only when she's being forced

600
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: to marry a corpse like which I've found it interesting

601
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: that she didn't try to put up more of a fight,

602
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: like because he was just like we're getting married, and

603
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: she's like, well, I think he like casts some weird spell.

604
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Like she was like trying to say no and like

605
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: you maybe say his name and he like cast that

606
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: weird spell on her and then he was talking through

607
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, oh yeah, but yeah. Yeah. There's in that

608
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: whole scene it's kind of jarring to watch because there's

609
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: so many like people taking two steps and then be like, hey,

610
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: don't do that. I'm like keep walking, what do you do?

611
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: Stop the wedding? But they stand in place and then

612
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: be able just like IM gonna put a steel plant

613
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: in your mouth. Like there's there's there was some yeah,

614
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: all someone has to do is say, just reatle juice,

615
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: which is people they can't like it takes some decades

616
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: to do it. The stairs one, okay, let's try and

617
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: one two more times and then and then he gets them.

618
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: He gets them with his weirders that we don't know

619
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: the rules. I'm now we sure don't. The scene where

620
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: he makes Lydia try to guess his name is out

621
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: of control because he immediately shows that he's like, all right,

622
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I'll show you, let's play shards. And then he shows

623
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: her a beetle and she goes beetle and then he

624
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: shows her orange juice, and she goes for breakfast like

625
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: I would immediately be like bug, like I wouldn't go

626
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: do exactly what kind of bug it was, and then

627
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: not know what And great product placement to Mini made

628
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: you gotta listen, who else is gonna pay for those

629
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: big spikes and snakes other than made orange juice? Who's

630
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna make beetle juice? Pointy, you got to ask the

631
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: big business questions. Yeah, that movie is definitely in the

632
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: pocket of Big Orange. Feminist ion Big Orange. Every time,

633
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: every time Bald juices on the screen, there's a very

634
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: gratuitous use of like fun sound effects. There's a literal

635
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: boying at one plane. There's a boy in this movie.

636
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: It does was like a high amount of Danny Elfman strings.

637
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: I love Danny Elfman score. Though, Oh Boy, Spiderman, Spider

638
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: Man and Men in Black Wild and several. Back to

639
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: School is a really good one. I've never seen the movie.

640
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it would fare very well on this

641
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: podcast most movies, but I think it's a good movie.

642
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: I guess like the main points I have for the

643
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: movie is that, like it's weird that most of the

644
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: time you just see beetle Juice on screen he is

645
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: sexually assaulting one of the female characters or forcing them

646
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: well the whole thing. So and then and then like

647
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: in a stanker like he's just veryone's like a beetle Juice.

648
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: It's what he does. He's gonna hunk your boob. He

649
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: come up and he's gonna hunk you. And that's what

650
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: beetle Juice does. And everyone's like that's not cool, and

651
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna do well. It's all about complacentness

652
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: and the beetle Well, so the reason that he needs

653
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Lydia to marry him. Is that he's like, I'm kind

654
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: of like a tourist. He's basically needs like a green card.

655
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: But it seems like he, well, we don't understand the

656
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: rules of this world very well. Yeah, whatever needs because

657
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: he can be summoned and he can like live among

658
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: these people. So what does he want exactly? Does he

659
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: want to be able to like live among the living

660
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: like what? Anyway? Sometimes it just sounds like I'm bored

661
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: and I would rather not be here. Yeah, I think

662
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: he wants to get out, just like wreak havoc on

663
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: the world. Look up more skirts. There's so many skirts

664
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: down in the world, that's true. Lots of skirts to

665
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: pick up for this old scap, my dad says before

666
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: the house. Every more, I just remember somebody's skirts to

667
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: peak up out there for this old scaph god. Anyway. Yeah,

668
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: so he's just like, I gotta marry this teenage girl.

669
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: Why doesn't he try to marry Barbara or some interesting criticism? Yeah,

670
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: well why not? Why not? Why not? Kately? Why isn't he?

671
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: I think when he first is brought out, he immediately

672
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: asked Alec Baldwin if his marriage is going well, that's true,

673
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: he's closing. But the thing is Beetle Juice. You know

674
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: he wants to lock it down, isn't He's rude. I

675
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: think Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice is the original pickup artist. I

676
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: think he started of negging people mystery from the TV

677
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: show Pickup Artists. One of the feminist Nine Reasons nineties icon.

678
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Beetle Juice is a is a feminist pickup artist. He

679
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: uses your voice to marry you. Yeah, he takes away

680
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: your voice and speaks for you. He did not lip

681
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: sink that very well either, because, like Michael Keaton has

682
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: a lot of skills, I don't know if lip sinking

683
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: is one of them. He's amazing in this movie. He's

684
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: so good, he's it's great. There's never I feel like

685
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: this movie could only work with Michael Keaton as the character.

686
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: I feel like most other people are so like he's

687
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: so charming that you're like, oh, Beetle Juice, you scamp.

688
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: But if it was like someone else to be like,

689
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: this guy needs to go to demon jail wherever. Oh yeah,

690
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: your test, the Steve Bushey test test. I don't know.

691
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: I think you might be able to do it. I

692
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: don't know. To play Beetle Juice like not, it wouldn't

693
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: be the same. But I think you could have done Yeah,

694
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: Billina could not do this part. I think a lot

695
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: of Michael Keaton's lines were yeah, that's true, if you wanted.

696
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I still don't know

697
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: who he is. Shut up, I don't know who he is.

698
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: I feel sick you've seen because I don't have I seen.

699
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if I've seen Spiderman shift,

700
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: do you have you've seen Beetle Juice two hundreds? I

701
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: mean two hundred might be an exaggeration, but I've seen

702
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: a lot. And I have seen Spider Man too, probably

703
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: zero times. It's a classic. I sew Spider Man three weird.

704
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: That's bad. That was a bad one. Son. In the theater,

705
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: the dancing is really I love the dancing. And over grace,

706
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: where's that guy? He's probably trying to find the rest

707
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: of his name. Where's Haley Joelasmand? There? Actually I know

708
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Jabs the Coole days ago. Haley Joelasmand was near a

709
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: herd of cattle, and it's like, where are you? Can

710
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: I come? I'm so Scara heard of cattle. Recently, I

711
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: was in Pennsylvania visiting my mom, and there's I saw llamas,

712
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: I saw cows, I saw horses just in field around.

713
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: I didn't we were not at the same cow field.

714
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: And I guess what's the point. I know, Hey, let's

715
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: talk about whether this movie passes the Bechel tests. Yeah, yeah,

716
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: is and yeah, let's talk about it or yeah, isn't yet?

717
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Does I think it does? I think it does too,

718
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: It does. Yeah. I was really keeping an eye out.

719
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I picked this and I really hope

720
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: it does. Everything's riding on this. Yeah, and it does.

721
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: And right away, like the Jane Butterfield character comes up

722
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: to the house and she's like, I found a family

723
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: who wants to buy this from you, and Da da da,

724
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: and she's like, go away, Jane. There's a lot of Yeah,

725
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like it passes a lot of

726
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: times for a movie that has prominent scab man skirt peak,

727
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: Teenager is an undead sexual assailant, just to prove that

728
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: it is a flawed system because it passes many times. Yeah,

729
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: Like every time Barbara and Juno talk, right, it's like

730
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: they're just talking about like you gotta be better at

731
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: being dead whatever she talks about throat. Yeah, if you

732
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: look up that actress, young, total hottie. Yeah, I want

733
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: to know. I wonder what the woman who works behind,

734
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: like the woman who plays the receptionist in the one

735
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: who's like, too bad, I slip my rest. Yeah, yeah,

736
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: my little accident, and I want to I should have

737
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: looked up who that is because I was like, you're

738
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: like fun. Yeah. And then there's a lady who's like

739
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: saw it in half. You see her torso sitting and

740
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: then is her legs Yeah, and Beetle Juice tries to

741
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: grab her leg and then her top half slaps him. Yeah,

742
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: so he's not doing great. Yeah yeah, but she's she's

743
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: she's only only womanho stuck up for herself in this

744
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: movie against Beetle Geese until he gets eaten by feminist iconpics.

745
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy to just see like two feminist icons in

746
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: the same scene together and one gets eaten by Also

747
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: scenes where Lydia talks to her step mom and sees

748
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: where Barbara talks to Lydia a lot of times like

749
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: there are men in the room when that happens, but

750
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: it's like isolated conversations between two women that passed its handily.

751
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: I feel like if you had a dialogue breakdown, I

752
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: think there might in this movie. It might be that

753
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: women talk more than men, because I feel like there's

754
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: more prominent female characters in the in the movie, Like

755
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: the male characters that like have a bunch of lines

756
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: are Alec Baldwin, the Dad, and Otho and Beetle Juice

757
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: probably is behind all of them because he's barely there.

758
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: And then it's like because then you have like big,

759
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: like big monologues from Juno. You have the lady in

760
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: the reception, and then you have like Barbara and Catherine

761
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: O'Hara and Lydia like all yeah, and you have like

762
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: all the people from the party, but none of them

763
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: really talk. They'll just kind of like to sit there.

764
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: And then that was me to that woman that he

765
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: brought for some reason, like so much we didn't really. Yeah,

766
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: I hated him as a kid as a kid because

767
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: I was like he's trying to ruin the house that

768
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: these people love. And then now I'm like he's like

769
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 1: a funny character. He's fun he's a great dancer. There's

770
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: a scene where Lydia is talking to something about ghosts,

771
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: and then Delia is like, my agent Bernard is coming

772
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: for the dinner party, not to be confused with Bernard

773
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: Bernard from Spider Man Too. I really got to watch this.

774
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I'll describe it to you. There's this great seed that

775
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: James Franco's in in Spider Man Too, where they're trying

776
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: to replicate the magic between Batman and his butler Michael Caine,

777
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: but it's James Frego and his butler Bernard and Bernard Enters.

778
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: It's the only line he had in the whole movie.

779
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: He's out of focus and he says, so your father

780
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: only obsessed over his work, right, Yeah, And then James

781
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: Franco said, good night Bernard, who James Franco play in

782
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Spider Man Harry best best friend. But it's complicated because

783
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: he's Spider Man. Let's talk about anyways, what if Spider

784
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: Man starting? It's complicated. Another Alex Balban joint. One of

785
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: the only movies my father has ever talked to me about.

786
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: It's a movie about divorce. What do you think is

787
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: going to yeah? Just yeah. When you get divorced, all

788
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: you want to do is see other media about divorce.

789
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 1: You know, you'd like to see yourself and the things

790
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: you watch. It's complicated, so he only watches it's complicated

791
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: and Blue Crush, Yeah, the surf moviescing No, I think

792
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: he's just like Surfing's great. Hey, let's write the movie

793
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: on our nipple scale. Okay, so we write the movie

794
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: on a scale of zero to five nipples based on

795
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: its portrayal of women. So I'm going to give it.

796
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh Man, again, this is a tough one. I mean,

797
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: just thinking back to all the discourse we had about Scabby,

798
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: Come my daughter. Yes, the guy who's like a tonic

799
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: sales means like Scabby, come here to tell you about

800
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: this new Tonic I've made up. Don't come and just scare.

801
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I brought it up again. He's a little

802
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: bit on the nose of the sales. I'm gonna give it,

803
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: I guess two and a half nipples because there are

804
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: a lot of pretty significant roles for women. They're all

805
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: mostly playing a pretty active role in the story and

806
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: the narrative to like move it forward, I'd say probably

807
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: just as much as any of the male characters. Is

808
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: concerning to me that pretty much anytime build juices on screen,

809
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: he is sexually assaulting the nearest female character, and while

810
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: the other characters are like, oh, you're a pervert, he's gross,

811
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: he's bad us as a as a society, or like,

812
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: he's funny, he's funny, he's fine. I like him. His

813
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: penis looks like it's pretty much just us. But now

814
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: we've put that question on Oh my god, they're so okay,

815
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: look it up. Okay. So yeah, So two and a

816
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: half nipples, just because I'm not really sure what to

817
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: make of this movie, and the nipples belong to the

818
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: dog that they have to avoid crashing into dog them

819
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: the dog that kills them, and they have to swerve

820
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: to miss the dog, and they crash and go over

821
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: a bridge. So that dog, which I'm guessing has eight nipples,

822
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: because if a dog is anything like a cat, it

823
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: has eight nipples. This has been cat facts with Caitlin.

824
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: So two and a half nipples, and they belonged to

825
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: the shaggy dog that dog killed them. He was on

826
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: a board that was holding up the car and then

827
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: he jumped off, and that just proves my point that

828
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: I've made over the years that every dog is rude.

829
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that fall would not have killed it.

830
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: Was such a short fall. Yeah, it was like I've

831
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Speaker 1: jumped off of things into water that high and I'm

832
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: still here. Yeah, they could have escaped that car. Yeah

833
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: they don't. I don't believe that they died. I just

834
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: think they didn't want to live anymore. They just they

835
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 1: hit the water and they immediately were like, well, we've

836
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: resigned to this now. Guys in this field guicerratic fan

837
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: fiction I've been reading while you've been having this conversation.

838
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: He's referred to as beach. Beach just eyes buled out

839
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: of his head at the look of Lydia's corset. Oh,

840
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: I want him to big snake. I wanted to have

841
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: sex with big him. Yeah. Yeah, goes stir right through

842
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: beetle juice, but beetle juice exploded spikes, which is the

843
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: way that he comes. Okay, I'm gonna give it. Sorry,

844
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: that was like a very intense fan fact. Well link it,

845
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: Lincoln description this disgusting fan fiction. Just kidding, Okay, I'm

846
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: going to give it. I'm gonna give it to I'm

847
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna give it two nippies for for all the reasons

848
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: you described. But it's I don't know, like I wish

849
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: Jeanne Davis's character was more active. I think that mine

850
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: is the end. You could totally write out when on

851
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: a writer out of this movie and it would not

852
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: make that much of a difference. There are a lot

853
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: of female characters, but not all of them are important

854
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: enough to the plot. Be Juice feminist icon though, and

855
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: that's important. It's I mean, at the end of the day,

856
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: we got a feminist icon out of this movie, and

857
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: what more could you ask for? Well, part, I mean

858
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: the movie if you isolate the conflict, which is that

859
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: they don't want these people in their house. They need

860
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Beetle Juices help, but as soon as they get it,

861
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: they don't want it anymore. And then it's like a

862
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: matter of getting rid of I don't know, like all

863
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, the story is I think the

864
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: problem was like maybe because the female characters aren't as

865
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: like active as we'd like them to be. Is because

866
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: like the narrative is bananas and like not that well constructed. Yeah,

867
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: you heard it here first from Caitlin and her really

868
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: good opinions. Do you have two degrees? I have two

869
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: degrees in one of them is a master's in screen

870
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: running from Boston university. Uh, all of you who are

871
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: like show us your degree. I don't have to show

872
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: you anything. I have nine degrees. No, I don't believe

873
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: you believe me. All of them are in film. I

874
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: got them from various universities, nine different ones. To be exact,

875
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: I went to college. So I'm gonna give this. It's hard.

876
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: From zero to five. I feel like three is too generous,

877
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: but I want to say three because I feel like

878
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: most of the male characters are in the movie are

879
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 1: very passive, like other than wanting to turn to buy

880
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: the whole town and turn it into an amusement park

881
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: the Confines of Death. Yeah, but just like I mean,

882
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: like but like the Father, he literally just like sits

883
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: in a room for most of the of the movie.

884
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, the conflict is that, like Delia wants

885
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: to like redo the house. So it's like I think

886
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of her push. She's pushing the conflict more

887
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: way more than he is. But other than that, it's like, yeah,

888
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I think like Barbara and Adam are like very even.

889
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of like he is kind of like being like,

890
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: oh did you draw the door and knock on it?

891
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: But She's like we got to read the book, like

892
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: she's like pushing for them to do the stuff. So

893
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like it's pretty even, and I

894
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: feel like, really the movie is a vehicle for Tim

895
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: Burton painting people's faces with scabs. I feel like it's

896
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: mostly that and mostly him building little tiny models of towns.

897
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: Tiny head, feminist icon, tiny head feminist icon, feminist icon,

898
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: woman's legs. There's a lot of feminist icons in this movie.

899
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: This Woman of Hollywood literally feminist icon. Football team. There's

900
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: so many team and I'm gonna I'm gonna so I'm

901
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna say three because I because you never know and

902
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: it's never said, And I'm just gonna say that big

903
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: Snake is a woman what very easily could be No

904
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: what you know what? You can't tell just by looking

905
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: at him. Who are you giving your nipples to? I'm

906
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: going to put those three nipples on, but two fur

907
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: eyes and then one in the middle of the head. Okay, yeah, snake, Yeah,

908
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: my my nipples are penises and their beel juice, And

909
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: I think we should end the episode. Can my nipples

910
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: be the nipples of the woman in total recall that

911
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: has three boobs? Okay, well you know it's always great

912
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: to ask yes because I sent this ramission. So Mike,

913
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. You for doing this.

914
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: Where can people find you online? I'm at Michael Brucey

915
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: on all the social media and I have a website

916
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: micro dot com that I have never updated, so it's pointless.

917
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: But it is made on Wicks. I knew it, and

918
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: it's free, and it tells you that it's made on

919
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: Wicks because I'm not going to pay money for it

920
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: to not say that I knew it, of course. And

921
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: shout out to Lave who are recording for us. What's

922
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: the name of your podcast network again? The brain Machine

923
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Network to brain Machine Comedy dot com. Hell yeah, gotta

924
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: check out brain Machine Comedy dot com. Although Mike did

925
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: suggest that it should be rebrand it is life Little Podcast.

926
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: I think you should be called this little Podcast. I'm

927
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: all for it. You heard it here first. Thank you

928
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: again for having us here. Thanks for being here. You

929
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: can follow us at Becto Cast on Twitter, on Instagram.

930
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: You can check us out on Facebook. We've got a website,

931
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: pets dot com made not made on Wicks. Squares dice.

932
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: That'll that's it. That'll do beetle juice. Beetle juice, beetle juice,

933
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: Come scabs,