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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Second Date Update Podcast. We've got a

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Speaker 1: brand new one for you today. It's Brooke and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the Morning, and I'm just curious Alexis and jose

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Speaker 1: you're both you know, like, in the dating world. Is

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Speaker 1: it really that bad that our listener is ready to

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Speaker 1: give up all together?

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I'm not in the dating world. I've

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Speaker 2: already given up, So I completely agree that I stopped

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Speaker 2: dating a while ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. I think people go through phases.

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Speaker 4: You know, They'll get on the app, go on like

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Speaker 4: five dates in like two weeks, and then it's like

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Speaker 4: delete for two months.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Leaves of life. Yeah, definitely dramatic on this one.

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Speaker 1: You're going to hear all about it, but first let's

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Speaker 1: get to some wonderful listener comments.

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Speaker 3: We love when you comment and.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think about the episode, and

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Speaker 1: also when you subscribe, it means the world.

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Speaker 3: So what do you got, Alexis?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Zane Doherty said, I stumbled across some of y'all's

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Speaker 4: clips on TikTok at the beginning of this year and

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Speaker 4: have since gone back and binged all of it. Also,

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it took this long to find y'all,

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Speaker 4: and I wish it was an all day show. Okay,

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Speaker 4: twenty four hours, my gosh, yeah, you know, watch what

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Speaker 4: you ask for.

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Speaker 3: Say, that's what I have to say.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for finding us, saying we love that.

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Speaker 1: We know a lot of people found us on TikTok

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Speaker 1: and if you do want more, we do do a

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Speaker 1: full show a full hour every day, but that's on

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Speaker 1: our full show main feed. So just find Brooke and Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: It's in the more like this tap. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here.

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Speaker 3: And sit back for a brand new second date.

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Speaker 2: The second Date update. We've all heard of dating ultimatums

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Speaker 2: where they put it all on the line and say

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Speaker 2: either you put a ring on it or I'm gone, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you have to pick. Is it me or your mom?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't have You're gonna get dumped

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Speaker 1: every time on both of those occasions.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, well, if they really love you, they

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Speaker 2: choose you. But it is pretty rare to give yourself

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Speaker 2: a dating ultimatum like that's it. If I don't find

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Speaker 2: somebody by August, I'm just marrying my weighted blanket and

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Speaker 2: calling it a life.

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Speaker 3: Well, there could be worse options that weighted blanket.

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Speaker 2: Really, it really hug you the right way. But I

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Speaker 2: bring it up because one of our listeners says she's

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Speaker 2: on the precipice of giving up on dating for everything

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Speaker 2: unless we can make this call work.

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Speaker 3: That is so much on us. Why would you do

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Speaker 3: that to us, Jackie?

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's completely right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jaggie, don't come in all cheerful like you weren't

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Speaker 1: just doomsday in.

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Speaker 5: The Yeah, this isn't I'm not cheerful. I'm just letting

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Speaker 5: you know that if this doesn't work out, I'm done.

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Speaker 5: I am done.

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Speaker 4: This aren't very high.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm that desperate. I'm with you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're all starting off on the same page.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, starting at rock bottom can only go up

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Speaker 2: from here. Let's begin by learning the name of the

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Speaker 2: guy that you met recently.

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Speaker 5: The guy's name is Steve. We went on a date

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Speaker 5: like last Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Thursday, And is there something that stood out about Steve

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. In the last couple of months, I've

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Speaker 5: been trying to say yes to anyone that asked me out.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, cast a wide net sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm putting myself out there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, like everybody tells you to, right.

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Speaker 5: And most of them have been okay.

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Speaker 3: With Steve.

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Speaker 5: It was actually a really good date.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I mean I could even see the hope in your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not super hopeful, just like not the worst thing ever.

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Speaker 2: Where was that date?

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Speaker 5: It was really fun. We went to a farmer's market

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, this is good. It's a day date. Nobody's

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Speaker 3: like drinking too much. I mean, did you meet there?

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Speaker 5: Yes? We met at the farmer's market, and then at

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Speaker 5: the end he walked me back to my car. And

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Speaker 5: you know, normally I don't kiss someone on the first date,

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Speaker 5: especially a day date, but the connection was really strong.

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Speaker 3: Oh you had a cute first kiss after a farmer's

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Speaker 5: Yes. And then he looked at me in the eyes

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Speaker 5: and said, I had a really great time and I

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Speaker 2: That Yeah, you don't. You don't want eye contact when

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Speaker 3: What you want to look away in shame, don't look

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Speaker 3: at me. Yeah, you want eye contact? Eye contact is

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Speaker 3: so intimate and nice.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 5: You believed him, right, I did, And I told him

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Speaker 5: that I had an amazing time and I would love

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Speaker 5: to see him again.

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Speaker 2: And there it is again. What it's too much?

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Speaker 5: I didn't do anything.

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Speaker 3: It's not too much.

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Speaker 1: He said, I want to see you again. She said,

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Speaker 1: I want to see you again. That's not too much.

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Speaker 2: I can see how maybe you would think that prefer

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Speaker 2: a guy saying I really like you. It's the most

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Speaker 2: terrifying thing in the world.

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Speaker 5: He said that to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not supposed to say it back to him.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, ye.

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Speaker 2: Brook, I've done enough of these to know how to

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Speaker 2: play the game, and being honest and open with how

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Speaker 2: you I really feel is the absolute worst thing. You

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Speaker 5: That was not the problem, because that same day he

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Speaker 5: texts me and he said, Sunday, does that work? I'll

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Speaker 5: pick you up for dinner and maybe he can grab

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Speaker 5: a drink after.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I stand corrected, possibly, thank you?

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Speaker 3: So what happened Sunday?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 5: So I texted back, yes, one hundred percent I'm in

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Speaker 5: and gave him a little high five emoji, and on

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Speaker 5: Saturday he texts me and says, Hey, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: have to cancel on Sunday. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, did he try to reschedule?

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Speaker 5: No, he didn't say anything else, doesn't explain nothing, And

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Speaker 5: so I just texted back, no problem. Let's figure out

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Speaker 5: another time. Did he respond to your no no response?

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Speaker 3: Come on, how many days has that been?

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Speaker 5: It's been a week now, Okay, but here's the same.

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Speaker 5: So this is the only guy that I've connected with,

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Speaker 5: and now he's ghosting me. I mean, it's so unbelievably frustrating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it sounds like you're doing this not

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Speaker 3: Other bad thing that happened, Like you need this to go.

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Speaker 5: Right, And I really just want to know why. I mean,

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Speaker 5: like what happened right?

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Speaker 2: Well, you said it's been a week. Maybe he's learned

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Speaker 2: something about you in between that period of time, Like

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Speaker 2: you don't have to answer this, but have you served

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Speaker 2: time in prison.

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Speaker 1: That could be hot though I have not.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that's available online to the public that

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Speaker 2: somebody could come across and might be like, oh God,

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Speaker 2: this is a red flag.

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Speaker 5: Seriously, there's nothing that I can take of.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, this is definitely a mystery.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he just had a bad reaction to the baba gnoosh,

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Speaker 1: you guys had the Farmer's market.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't able to recover.

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Speaker 2: I know what that is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It was just a hummus stand must

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Speaker 2: Hot, So let's come back. We're gonna definitely got kisses

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Speaker 2: from her husband totally. We're gonna come back and call

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Speaker 2: Steve for you here and hopefully get an explanation for

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Speaker 2: why he isn't arranging a second date or let you

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Speaker 2: give up on dating forever. That's what she wants, all right.

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful, yes, push you back from the cliff and

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Speaker 2: when we get your second date update right after this

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Speaker 2: second date update today, the entire future of a woman's

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Speaker 2: dating life lies inside of our tender throats. Because if

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Speaker 2: we don't say the right thing and get Steve to

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Speaker 2: agree to another date, Jackie has already said she is

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Speaker 2: ready to give up on finding love forever.

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Speaker 3: Definitely don't need to tell Steve this, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that won't happen anyway, because they went to

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Speaker 2: a far hot, you know, walked around, had a great

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Speaker 3: Soup's hot, see hot and organic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they laughed, even planned out another date after telling

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Speaker 3: You forgot the great first kiss. Yeah, that was such

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Speaker 3: a big deal. That was like the moment, right.

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Speaker 2: I thought when I said Farmer's Market kissing was implied

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Speaker 2: because who doesn't. But yeah, it was all going according

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Speaker 2: to plan until the day before their second date, when

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Speaker 2: Steve texted canceling with no explanation and then went dark. So, Brook,

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the situation at hand.

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Speaker 1: Good. I just feel like it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: good if he's in a different relationship, like if he's.

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Speaker 2: Cheating or well, hold on, Brook, how can he cheat

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Speaker 2: if they've only gone on one date?

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Speaker 3: No, no, not cheating on her, cheating on whoever he's dating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You're saying Jackie could be the other woman.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's just like a day date.

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Speaker 2: Are you cool with being the other woman?

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Speaker 6: That?

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Speaker 2: We didn't say that? Okay, it is good to check,

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Speaker 2: all right, Hopefully that's not what the I don't.

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Speaker 3: Want to be that.

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Speaker 4: I don't I hope it's just busy at other farmers markets.

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Speaker 2: Scoping out the best spots. Yeah, the best cober Jeans

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Brook likest a farmer?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Does he work?

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Speaker 5: He is not a farmer.

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Speaker 6: All.

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Speaker 2: We've ruled out a couple of possibilities. Let's just call

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Speaker 2: him and see if he picks up. I'm dialing his

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Speaker 2: number right now here we go. Hello, Hey, is this Steve?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a man, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: You're you're on a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: in the Morning.

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Speaker 6: Oh great, we're going to take.

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Speaker 3: That without any sarcasm attached to it.

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Speaker 2: But I like your style already. I can tell.

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Speaker 6: What's going on.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's going on is this is a segment that

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Speaker 2: we do called a second Date Update. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you've ever heard of that before.

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Speaker 2: And there's a woman that you went out with recently,

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Speaker 6: I don't really want to talk about this.

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Speaker 6: I feel bad?

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Speaker 2: Did I ask?

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Speaker 3: Are you single?

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Speaker 2: Brooks? It with so much help.

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Speaker 6: Here's the deal, here's the deal.

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Speaker 6: I did have a strong connection with her, but if

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Speaker 2: Trying to protect someone's feelings hurt some more. I think

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Speaker 3: I think her feelings already hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was really looking forward to that second

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Speaker 6: It's just I had a stronger romantic connection with somebody else,

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Speaker 3: My god, that's normal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, Okay, everybody's on the call right now. Let's

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Speaker 5: To this anymore.

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Speaker 3: Is a cheater here him that Jackie's on the phone.

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Speaker 5: Hold on so he knows it's me. He knows it's me,

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Speaker 5: and I know it's cheater. When I smell one O,

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait wait, I think that's my fault, Jackie.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, what I feel like I put that idea

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Speaker 1: He just said that he went out with someone else

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Speaker 5: He didn't Yeah, whatever, he was going to cheat on

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Speaker 2: Hold on, you're making a lot of assumptions here, Jackie,

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Speaker 6: I spoke my piece. I don't have much else to say.

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Speaker 5: So when we were walking around the farmer's market and

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Speaker 3: Whoa, Jackie, we are all over the place right now.

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Speaker 1: I understand your feelings are hurt because this didn't turn

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Speaker 2: And Honestly, I've never made that correlation before. Guys not

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Speaker 5: Well, you know you're also a guy.

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Speaker 2: Well that's fair, and I am. Yeah. I want to

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Speaker 2: keep it all to myself, Jeremy, can you confirm that

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Speaker 2: you're a selfish guy? I sorry, Steve, can you confirm

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Speaker 2: I just I just want to know what's your take

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Speaker 6: On a day, I just had a stronger connection with

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Speaker 3: Face, Jackie, you know what?

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Speaker 5: He's rubbing it in my face? He shows over me.

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Speaker 2: With you don't know.

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Speaker 3: She was probably a lovely person.

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Speaker 5: You guys, what are you doing? You're like spinning this

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Speaker 5: to make him the victim here circumstances.

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Speaker 3: It's just how dating works. Yeah, sometimes you meet somebody

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's in a like a committed relationship

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Speaker 6: I really don't think I should say anymore.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you know what, really sad, I really wanted to

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Speaker 3: Actually did he offer a tour of the basement.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking the same thing. I wonder

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Speaker 2: what's in his base? No, how about what is she

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Speaker 6: I have a movie room in my basement and we

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Speaker 3: Really, she had a lot of hopes based around that

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Speaker 5: I didn't get to see it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, don't a little popcorn maker.

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Speaker 1: And I was all on Steve's side until he just

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Speaker 2: That popcord maker.

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Speaker 6: You know. Sorry, it's a dope basement. And yes I

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Speaker 5: Wow, you need to go, You need to show now,

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Speaker 5: all right.

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Speaker 6: Hang up?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think maybe you just need to work on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, no no, I'm deleting your text. I'm

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Speaker 5: blocking your number. You're never gonna for me again. I

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Speaker 2: Good, really good, really stables type of relationship. So, Steve,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dude.

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Speaker 6: It's fine. I feel like I dodged a bullet. It's

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't want to hear from him. Okay, see

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Speaker 2: you you're gone. We dropped Steve. Wow, okay, Jackie, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, wow.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, you guys. Honestly it's fine.

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Speaker 5: I know men, after that, he is definitely going to

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's actually.

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Speaker 3: Kind a little is a different definition.

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Speaker 2: Are you saying you put all of that on just

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Speaker 5: I mean, I du justed it up a little bit,

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Speaker 3: That was a little bit I can't imagine.

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Speaker 2: Blown. All right, Well, Jackie, after you take your hiatus

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Speaker 2: out to that next guy for you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I'm gonna hear from Steve.

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Speaker 2: You heard about that basement, right, It is pretty dope. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't blame you.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to block him. And then he's gonna

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Speaker 3: About your healthy relationship direction.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Was it me or did it feel like she definitely

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Speaker 2: had a plane of attack there?

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Speaker 3: What happened? She said? She like what shausted up juiced

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Speaker 3: it up? I don't know she did.

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Speaker 2: It was purpose.

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Speaker 3: It was an emotional roller coaster. I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 2: The second he mentioned a stronger connection with another woman,

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Speaker 2: it be something though, if after all of this she

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Speaker 3: He did call her back, Like Steve.

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Speaker 2: Thinks about it, and he's like, you know what, she's

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Speaker 1: Only way Steve's calling her back is if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I could see it maybe happening, and

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Speaker 2: Sure, it's probably a less than one percent chance that

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Speaker 2: it all goes the way that she's thinking, But wouldn't

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Speaker 2: that be a wild update? There would be? Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate her optimism and all of your optimism

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Speaker 2: in your dating lives. If you want our help, we

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Speaker 2: are ready to step in and call that person who

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Speaker 2: isn't calling you back. By the way, go check out

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Speaker 2: all of our second date updates. They're up online wherever

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Speaker 2: you get your podcasts at Brook and Jeffrey