Speaker 1: Is the Samsung Galaxy fold of flop, Amazon and Google makeup,
Speaker 1: Verizon increases a key fee, and iPhone hacked for parents.
Speaker 1: BBM says bye bye and your questions. What's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm Rich dmiro. This is Rich on Tech, the podcast
Speaker 1: where I talk about the tech things I think you
Speaker 1: should know about, plus I answer your pressing tech questions.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. And joining me once again is
Speaker 1: producer Megan. Producer Megan, welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 2: How's it going?
Speaker 1: It's going well. I was up in Petaluma over the weekend.
Speaker 1: You were in Coachella.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, same thing.
Speaker 1: But we both lost our voices, So I guess that's
Speaker 1: what happens when you're on the radio for six hours
Speaker 1: on the weekend. I was filling in for Leo Laporte.
Speaker 1: You were presumably screaming for all the fans you saw.
Speaker 2: I was singing with all my might.
Speaker 1: Who was the best performer you saw?
Speaker 3: You know, Ariana Grande was pretty amazing, Like her voice
Speaker 3: gave me goosebumps.
Speaker 2: I was very improsuded.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I listened over the weekend on my YouTube music app
Speaker 1: because they had all the live Coachella streams. I thought
Speaker 1: was kind of cool. Yeah, but I did not hear her. Actually,
Speaker 1: the only band I knew that I listened to was
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five I think. Okay, so I listened to
Speaker 1: them and the other ones I didn't know, but I
Speaker 1: just kind of kept it on. It was kind of
Speaker 1: fun to like this was all live and you know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of fun. But a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: happened this week in technology. Probably the biggest story at
Speaker 1: this point is the Samsung Galaxy Fold. So I got
Speaker 1: to go hands on with this device. This is the
Speaker 1: foldable smartphone from Samsung that's going to launch on April
Speaker 1: twenty six, or at least as of this recording, that
Speaker 1: is the plan. Now after you hear the story, that
Speaker 1: might change. So a little bit of background. Number one,
Speaker 1: this is probably the first phone in history with Samsung
Speaker 1: in the time that I've been a reporter that they
Speaker 1: did not give me a review unit, which is kind
Speaker 1: of odd. Usually they send me a review unit before,
Speaker 1: you know, at least before everyone else or you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the main the big media gets at first. Then
Speaker 1: I get a sex but before it launches. Right this time,
Speaker 1: they didn't do that. They said, hey, you're welcome to
Speaker 1: come to our store at the Americana at Brand and
Speaker 1: check out the device they gave me about, you know,
Speaker 1: two hours. There was no it was it was kind
Speaker 1: of open ended. But I went there and it was great.
Speaker 1: I was very impressed. But the first thing I noticed
Speaker 1: about this device is that the screen looked unreal, Like
Speaker 1: I literally said, oh, this is a fake screen, right,
Speaker 1: because it looked like the printed magazine page more than
Speaker 1: a smartphone screen. And that will come in handy after
Speaker 1: you hear the story. So now the story is that
Speaker 1: four tech reviewers have damaged their phones basically, so the
Speaker 1: screen has pretty much crapped out on their devices, and
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out is this something they did
Speaker 1: or is this something that is a bigger problem with
Speaker 1: the device. Now, two of the reviewers, okay, two of
Speaker 1: the reviewers removed what they thought was a protective screen
Speaker 1: on a protective layer on the screen, but it turned
Speaker 1: out not to be a protective layer. It actually is
Speaker 1: the screen, and so they totally messed theirs up. So
Speaker 1: that you kind of have to discount a little bit
Speaker 1: because you're not supposed to peel off the screen of
Speaker 1: your phone, right, And that goes back to what I
Speaker 1: was just saying about the screen looked unreal. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess that's how they get it to fold. Is it's
Speaker 1: literally like some weird screen material that you're not used to. Now.
Speaker 1: One person said the Verge said that they propped up
Speaker 1: the phone with a little bit of molding clay during
Speaker 1: a photo shoot and their problems started after that. So
Speaker 1: they say, maybe some of that molding clay got stuck
Speaker 1: into the hinge on the phone and that caused the
Speaker 1: issue because they had some sort of bulls on their screen.
Speaker 1: We're not sure. But then CNBC said their phone straight
Speaker 1: up just conked out and it didn't work. So do
Speaker 1: we have another one of these Note seven fiascos on
Speaker 1: our hand? Do you remember when that whole thing happened, Megan, Yes.
Speaker 2: I do, and it kind of sounds like that right now.
Speaker 1: Well I know, but it's too early to know. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the thing, Like, I want to give Samsung the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. We folded this thing and unfolded
Speaker 1: it several times and it worked pretty well. But they
Speaker 1: say it's last. It's made for like many many opens
Speaker 1: and closes. I think it was like one hundred a
Speaker 1: day for five years, right.
Speaker 3: And the screen is beautiful, and I think now people
Speaker 3: will know like moving forward. Okay, I'm not gonna peel
Speaker 3: off the screen, you know, but this thing.
Speaker 1: Is also two thousand dollars. If I bought a two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars device and it conked out in the first
Speaker 1: week of use or two days in some of these cases,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. Now, the other side of all this
Speaker 1: is that Samsung, of course extensively tested this device. So
Speaker 1: we saw the video where they put the thing through
Speaker 1: the ringer, where they opened and closed it like a
Speaker 1: bazillion times. So did these four journalists just stumble upon
Speaker 1: something Samsung didn't find in that whole time or is
Speaker 1: this isolated? We're gonna have to watch this one. But
Speaker 1: kind of my overall thoughts on this doesn't really change.
Speaker 1: The reality is this is a first generation device. It's
Speaker 1: probably something you want to wait on. Anyway, people who
Speaker 1: buy this thing have an abundance of cash. I think
Speaker 1: they want to be on the cutting edge, they want
Speaker 1: to be able to show off to their friends, so
Speaker 1: they're probably still going to buy it. But for the
Speaker 1: average person, probably something you want to wait on. And
Speaker 1: I will tell you my impression of the device is.
Speaker 1: I came away very impressed. Now, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: the use case scenario that I need right now, but
Speaker 1: I love the idea. In the future, if they can
Speaker 1: get iPhone form factor that flips open like this to
Speaker 1: a big screen inside, that's amazing. That would be really cool,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm hoping for. Yeah, all right, Megan,
Speaker 1: You've got some questions for me or what yes, I do?
Speaker 3: Okay, So my first question is from Anthony Laura. He says,
Speaker 3: good morning, rich I just got a new work phone.
Speaker 3: I'm going from Sprint to T Mobile, but that's not
Speaker 3: the issue. I have a Sprint corporate account for my Pandora,
Speaker 3: so I don't have to worry about commercials. In your opinion,
Speaker 3: music app wise, what's the best music app to use Pandora?
Speaker 3: Google Music, Spotify Help.
Speaker 2: Okay, A lot of exclamation points at the end of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So good question. And this is something that I've
Speaker 1: got a lot of experiencing because I've tried all the
Speaker 1: music apps. If you look at my sonos at home,
Speaker 1: it's actually kind of ridiculous because right now I'm a
Speaker 1: subscriber of I'll tell you all the ones YouTube music Pandora.
Speaker 1: I have an account. I'm not a subscriber Apple Music,
Speaker 1: Spotify and which also I mean YouTube Music also includes
Speaker 1: Google Music. So those are the ones I have. Also, iHeartRadio,
Speaker 1: I have which you don't have to. I don't subscribe
Speaker 1: to it, but I have it. But here's here's my
Speaker 1: thought on all these programs. So number one, I mean,
Speaker 1: Spotify is the biggest, right, everybody knows Spotify and it's
Speaker 1: is it the best? I mean, I think it's big.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the best. It's it's really
Speaker 1: good at you know, playlist, there's a playlist for everything.
Speaker 1: I find that there are a lot of playlists and
Speaker 1: sometimes they're good, sometimes they're not very good. I also
Speaker 1: find that everyone uses it, so it's just kind of
Speaker 1: like it's become like water. It's like, oh yeah, Spotify
Speaker 1: is like the music app, right, So I think it's
Speaker 1: good and personally what I like to do, I always
Speaker 1: like the number two because it's kind of like they
Speaker 1: try harder, you know what I mean, Like Spotify knows
Speaker 1: what it is. Obviously they're great, but I kind of
Speaker 1: like things that always try a little bit harder. And
Speaker 1: so for me, I've really liked Google play Music in
Speaker 1: the past. I know, totally weird because who uses that.
Speaker 1: But Google play Music I like because it actually kind
Speaker 1: of knows more about music because of YouTube like it
Speaker 1: takes all that data into action for what it creates.
Speaker 1: And I love oneplay is so two things. Google play
Speaker 1: Music used to own this thing called songs, which they
Speaker 1: have one of my favorite playlists, which is called Blogged fifty,
Speaker 1: and that has taken over to Google Play. But Google
Speaker 1: play is going away, So really we have to be
Speaker 1: talking about YouTube music, and I will tell you right now,
Speaker 1: YouTube music, out of all the services, is my absolute favorite.
Speaker 1: So I would say check out YouTube Music, Anthony, because
Speaker 1: I think that they're doing a really nice job. The
Speaker 1: search is great. You can type in a couple of
Speaker 1: lyrics to a song and it will come up with
Speaker 1: the song. They have live versions of songs, which I
Speaker 1: really like. So if you really like a song that's
Speaker 1: on the radio, next thing, you know, if you start
Speaker 1: listening to that on YouTube music, it will kind of
Speaker 1: unearth some of these live performance of that song, like
Speaker 1: if the person played on like the Today Show or
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Fallon or whatever, you'll start seeing that on
Speaker 1: your homepage, which I find really cool because it's fun
Speaker 1: to see that Pandora. Pandora is great for like, I
Speaker 1: feel like Pandora is like the first music thing that
Speaker 1: everyone starts with, right because it's free and it's simple
Speaker 1: and it's easy. And then after a while you kind
Speaker 1: of get bored because they play the same songs over
Speaker 1: and over and over and over. But there is one
Speaker 1: feature I like on that, and that's the Shuffle All
Speaker 1: your playlist feature. So if you pick like five playlists
Speaker 1: and then you do the shuffle the Master Shuffle, it
Speaker 1: will pick songs from all those different playlists, which I
Speaker 1: do like. And Apple Music is really good if you
Speaker 1: get it for free with Verizon, which you don't have Verizon,
Speaker 1: You've got Sprint, you know, then get that, but you
Speaker 1: don't have that free, so I wouldn't I wouldn't really
Speaker 1: look into that one. But anyway, if you're getting Pandora
Speaker 1: for free, I mean, I don't know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a nice work perk. But I would check out YouTube Music.
Speaker 1: I kind of like that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to try that now.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: It's really good.
Speaker 1: I find that they are very very good, and they
Speaker 1: just got car play support, So if you have car
Speaker 1: Play Apple CarPlay in the car, it's really cool. I
Speaker 1: also see this is the thing. There's little things I
Speaker 1: like about all the different services. And there's like a
Speaker 1: station I really like on iHeart, which the name is
Speaker 1: it's called a colectic rock, which I really like because
Speaker 1: it's like songs from anywhere. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: don't it's not one genre. So I like that about
Speaker 1: iHeart and I haven't been able to find a station
Speaker 1: like that anywhere else. And on YouTube Music, I like
Speaker 1: the pop in country mix. It's like a mix of
Speaker 1: pop songs and country songs, which is kind of cool too.
Speaker 1: So all right, Anthony, thanks for emailing in the question. Now,
Speaker 1: this is one of those days where finally two tech
Speaker 1: companies make peace and it actually benefits the consumer. So
Speaker 1: Amazon and Google have announced, you know what, We're putting
Speaker 1: all of our sides behind us, and we are finally
Speaker 1: going to have our apps on each other's platforms. Now
Speaker 1: what does that mean? So it means that the official
Speaker 1: YouTube app will be launching on Amazon Fire TV devices rejoice,
Speaker 1: And the Prime Video app from Amazon will finally get
Speaker 1: chrome cast support, or maybe it had chrome Cast support before,
Speaker 1: but then they pulled it because of this whole little
Speaker 1: war they had. But this is a big thing. Now.
Speaker 1: You might be saying to me, hey, rich, look, I
Speaker 1: already have YouTube on my fireTV. Yes, but it's not
Speaker 1: an app. That YouTube that you see on your screen
Speaker 1: is actually just a link to a YouTube TV optimized website.
Speaker 1: So this will actually be a real YouTube app which
Speaker 1: will give you your full library of content, the ability
Speaker 1: to play videos in four k HDR at sixty frames
Speaker 1: per second, which I know video folks love. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what that means, but I'm sure it's great,
Speaker 1: and you'll get the Chrome cast stuff as well. So
Speaker 1: the problem with this announcement is this really annoys me.
Speaker 1: It's not coming today, Like when you make an announcement
Speaker 1: like this, shouldn't it be today? Come on? I agree,
Speaker 1: So it's coming, and they give us a date. It's
Speaker 1: in the coming months. Come on, okay, so like in
Speaker 1: four months exactly. The only worst thing than coming months
Speaker 1: is by the end of the year. Let's just give
Speaker 1: a whole long runway for this thing. No, we want
Speaker 1: this today. When you announce something, I want it that day.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to download it right now.
Speaker 1: That's not happening. But YouTube TV and YouTube Kids will
Speaker 1: also come to fire TV later this year. All right,
Speaker 1: Producer Megan.
Speaker 3: Next question, Okay, next question is regarding Wi Fi connection issues. Okay,
Speaker 3: my wife and I both have an iPhone eight just
Speaker 3: purchase December, and lately here we're connected to our WiFi
Speaker 3: at home, we cannot get any connection.
Speaker 2: We both use the app you showed.
Speaker 3: On one of your segments, Meteor, and it shows poor connection.
Speaker 3: We also have Alexa, Alexa Dot and a laptop all
Speaker 3: have a good Wi Fi connection.
Speaker 2: We're baffled. Any suggestions, Thank you?
Speaker 1: Did they leave their name?
Speaker 2: Gerald Landenberg?
Speaker 1: Jerald, Jerald, Gerald L Gerald? Okay, wi Fi issues? So
Speaker 1: I don't know what changed because it sounds like everything
Speaker 1: was working just fine and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it broke. So my feeling has something to do with
Speaker 1: your iPhone. But it's kind of odd because both you
Speaker 1: and your wife are having a problem with your iPhones.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Is that what they said?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they said.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a head scratcher because I can understand
Speaker 1: one of you having a problem. But here's what I think.
Speaker 1: I think something changed with your network just a little
Speaker 1: bit and it sounds like both your iPhones reacted in
Speaker 1: a way that's not good, or maybe you've got some
Speaker 1: sort of software update on your iPhone that's kind of
Speaker 1: not working with your network in the current setup. So
Speaker 1: what I think you should do is do a network reset.
Speaker 1: So if you go into your settings on your iPhone,
Speaker 1: you can reset your all kinds of settings. But the
Speaker 1: one that most people don't know about is called the
Speaker 1: network settings reset. So I'll tell you how you get there.
Speaker 1: You go into Settings, okay, and then you go into
Speaker 1: General and you scroll all the way down to where
Speaker 1: it says reset. And this is a scary thing because
Speaker 1: people are like, reset, I don't want to go near there. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: once you get in there, you have about one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: six different options for resets. We of course all know
Speaker 1: the reset all content and settings. That's the one that
Speaker 1: you do before you sell your iPhone and eRASS everything
Speaker 1: off of it. But the one most people don't know
Speaker 1: about is called reset Network Settings. And when you tap that,
Speaker 1: you'll have to enter in your passcode. But once you
Speaker 1: do that, it will reset your Bluetooth, your Wi Fi,
Speaker 1: and your cellular back to factory settings, which means everything's
Speaker 1: going to be cleared out, all your paired cars, all
Speaker 1: your paired devices, all your Wi Fi networks that you've
Speaker 1: logged into. It's kind of a fresh start, so you
Speaker 1: will have to relog into all those different Bluetooth devices
Speaker 1: and Wi Fi networks from your phone. But it's kind
Speaker 1: of a fresh start and it's kind of nice. So
Speaker 1: I say, do that, and hopefully once you log into
Speaker 1: your WiFi, it shouldn't be bad because it sounds like
Speaker 1: your WiFi is working for everything.
Speaker 2: Else, right, right, That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: So I think the network resetting should start. Good question, Megan, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll let you prepare for the next one. When I
Speaker 1: talk about some iPhone rumors. And I don't really love
Speaker 1: to get into the iPhone rumors because there's literally a
Speaker 1: new one every day. But when Ming Chi Quo talks,
Speaker 1: everyone listens. This is the noted Apple analyst, and he
Speaker 1: is saying now that Apple plans to upgrade the front
Speaker 1: camera and the twenty nineteen iPhones from seven megapixels to
Speaker 1: twelve megapixels. Holley lujah, Megan, come on, that's exciting.
Speaker 2: Right, No, that's big, I mean exciting.
Speaker 1: This is something every time I've gone to an iPhone event,
Speaker 1: I always sit there and say, did they upgrade the
Speaker 1: selfie camera? And I think the last time they did
Speaker 1: it was like several generations ago. So no matter what
Speaker 1: the iPhone, the selfie camera on the iPhone has taken
Speaker 1: on a life of its own, like people really rely
Speaker 1: on it, and it's still pretty bad when you're not
Speaker 1: in like super nice bright light. So I'm excited for this.
Speaker 1: That's all basically have to make. The only thing is
Speaker 1: it's going to get from a four element lens to
Speaker 1: a five element lens component. So whatever that means, it
Speaker 1: probably sounds better, right, more megapixels, better components. The only
Speaker 1: little teeny tiny thing I hope they do is add
Speaker 1: a wider screen, like a wider field of view to
Speaker 1: the selfie because the selfies are great if you're taking
Speaker 1: just one selfie of yourself, but if you want to
Speaker 1: do like a groupie, you know, group selfie. Yeah you
Speaker 1: never heard that, No, I just made it up. So
Speaker 1: if you want to take a group group selfie, they
Speaker 1: need a little bit wider angle. We'll see if they
Speaker 1: do that. I'm not sure, but that's another thing. Verizon meanwhile,
Speaker 1: is they're kind of increasing fees not very nice for Verizon.
Speaker 1: So this is my I hate this fee to begin with,
Speaker 1: and I can't believe it's going up. So the fee
Speaker 1: that I hate is called the upgrade or activation fee,
Speaker 1: and this is when you go into the store, you
Speaker 1: plunk down eight hundred bucks for a brand new phone,
Speaker 1: and then they slap you in the face saying, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's thirty five dollars just to put
Speaker 1: that phone on your account. And you're like, wait, what,
Speaker 1: I just spent all this money on this new phone,
Speaker 1: and you're charging me an extra thirty five bucks for
Speaker 1: what for your person to type the number into the computer.
Speaker 1: So that is now going up to forty dollars for
Speaker 1: the upgrade according to cnet. Now they say that I
Speaker 1: don't know how much it was before. I remember being
Speaker 1: thirty five bucks before, but I can't really remember the
Speaker 1: last time. So actually, I will tell you this. The
Speaker 1: last time I activated two of my phones on Verizon,
Speaker 1: the guy said he's like, if you call in, they
Speaker 1: will credit you that activation fee. And I was like
Speaker 1: really now. It took me a while, and I did
Speaker 1: this for my phone and my wife's phone, So I
Speaker 1: called up for I think it was my wife's phone first,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, guy in the store mentioned that
Speaker 1: you can credit me this activation fee, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can do that. I was like really, And then
Speaker 1: I said, what about my phone that I activated a
Speaker 1: couple months ago. She goes, let me look, yeah, we
Speaker 1: can do that. So I saved seventy just with one
Speaker 1: phone call to Verizon. So app thank you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was huge. But they are raising that fee,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. You can try the whole call
Speaker 1: in and see if they'll credit you. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: a nice customer. I pay my bill on time, all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. But if you do activate through the app,
Speaker 1: they're reducing the fee by ten dollars, so now it's
Speaker 1: only twenty dollars if you do it through the app
Speaker 1: or through online, which I actually applaud Verizon four because
Speaker 1: if you're doing it online, it does physically cost them
Speaker 1: less money because they're not processing as much with a
Speaker 1: human being. So I'm glad I can understand them. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't understand them raising the price at all, but
Speaker 1: I'm happy that they are acknowledging the fact that online
Speaker 1: users should get a little bit of a reward by
Speaker 1: doing it themselves, all right, Megan, producer, Megan, next question.
Speaker 3: Okay, this next question is from Susie Olsen. Hi, Rich,
Speaker 3: I take a lot of photos with my iPhone seven plus. However,
Speaker 3: when you were filling in for the tech guy, I
Speaker 3: think you told someone that there was a better camera
Speaker 3: and a different iPhone. Thank you for your help, God
Speaker 3: bless you.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, thank you. Let's see I missed. I missed
Speaker 1: the name here. What was it, Suzie? Okay, Susie, Susie Olsen? Okay, Susie,
Speaker 1: so you have an iPhone seven plus? What she said?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: So, uh okay. Here's the thing. I talk about cameras
Speaker 1: on phones a lot, and I think what it really
Speaker 1: comes down to is is this phone performing the way
Speaker 1: that you want it to. So if you're happy with
Speaker 1: your pictures and you think they're good and fine, and
Speaker 1: don't worry about what Rich says on the radio When
Speaker 1: people ask me what the best camera is, of course
Speaker 1: there's always a best camera, and I would say that's
Speaker 1: probably the Pixel three right now, right, But I will
Speaker 1: tell you that I think the iPhone ten are and
Speaker 1: the ten s and the ten tennis Max rather have
Speaker 1: really great cameras, and they've improved by the way over
Speaker 1: the ten So is there a better camera? There's always, Susie.
Speaker 1: It's like life. There's always gonna be something better out there, right,
Speaker 1: But you know, is what you have working for you?
Speaker 1: I think it's just fine unless you're unhappy with your pictures. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're unhappy with your pictures, i'd recommend going with
Speaker 1: the iPhone ten are. But if you're perfectly fine with
Speaker 1: what's going on, then just stick with what you got.
Speaker 1: I think you have a fine I do think the
Speaker 1: camera has improved on the iPhone immensely since you got
Speaker 1: your device, But again, if it's working, just stick with it, right.
Speaker 1: I do think that low light photography on the iPhone
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's improved that much over the years.
Speaker 1: So if that's where you're having a problem, you're not
Speaker 1: going to see a huge improvement in that area. But
Speaker 1: if you want the best camera out there on the
Speaker 1: market right now, I think the Pixel three probably has that.
Speaker 1: But what I recommend you switching probably not for that
Speaker 1: one specific feature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of deep.
Speaker 3: I just have to say, well, you know, I try,
Speaker 3: it's going to be something better there's.
Speaker 1: Always gonna be something better there always, no matter what,
Speaker 1: whether it's job, whether it's love, whether it's life, whether
Speaker 1: it's your car, whether it's anything.
Speaker 2: It's always some French fries.
Speaker 1: Is there is there better? What's the best friend tries?
Speaker 2: Well, my opinion, in and Out has the best friend try?
Speaker 1: What that is a very unpopular, very awkward Are you
Speaker 1: Are you just joking? No?
Speaker 2: I actually love in and Out French.
Speaker 1: Fries and I but you're calling them the best.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: They're not the best. Yeah, I think I think like
Speaker 1: the McDonald's is probably.
Speaker 2: Those are pretty good too.
Speaker 1: Photographer Luis says McDonald's from the side, and I think,
Speaker 1: I mean the only thing about McDonald's fries they're engineered
Speaker 1: to be the best, whereas In and Out fries are
Speaker 1: like literally you're watching them cut the potatoes. So I
Speaker 1: like the fresh you like the fresh fries, real potato,
Speaker 1: You like fresh French fries exactly what other you know?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I do like good French fries though,
Speaker 1: like if they're good, they're yeah, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: that's not odd, but that's an interesting It's funny because
Speaker 1: when the La Times did the rankings of the French fries.
Speaker 1: They put those as last.
Speaker 2: I know you posted about that Instagram and it did.
Speaker 1: It did. Oh my gosh. You guys had a lot
Speaker 1: to say about that. And I've got a lot to
Speaker 1: say about this T mobiles new TV service called t Vision.
Speaker 1: So we talked about this on the last podcast, and
Speaker 1: I'll admit I was wrong about a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Number one, it is not delivered by Coax cable. I
Speaker 1: said that T mobiles new TV service was delivered by Coax.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's actually delivered over the Internet through an
Speaker 1: Ethernet cable, so you have to keep your high speed
Speaker 1: Internet for this to work. I was right about that.
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing I learned because I went
Speaker 1: hands on with a demo. You have to have cable
Speaker 1: service from a particular provider for it to work. Because
Speaker 1: T Mobile's actually leasing, not just like the cable line.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's really complicated, but they're actually leasing,
Speaker 1: Like you can't just get this over any Internet. You
Speaker 1: have to have specific Internet from a specific provider. So
Speaker 1: what do you get for one hundred bucks? You get
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of channels, You get this DVR. There
Speaker 1: are some there's no fees, well, there are fees. If
Speaker 1: you have an extra box fee, there's taxes you have
Speaker 1: to pay. That was I impressed. I was not impressed.
Speaker 1: I really wanted to love this because I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of the original TVO and I thought this was
Speaker 1: kind of like TVO reimagined. It's really not. The DVR
Speaker 1: is amazing, I'll give you that. It's got all the
Speaker 1: channels you need, but the features are kind of eh,
Speaker 1: and I'd rather have something like a Apple TV or
Speaker 1: a fire TV, a platform that has pretty much every
Speaker 1: app available. The voice functionality was not very good. It
Speaker 1: connects to Alexa and Google, but it's really awkward. You
Speaker 1: have to say things like a ask Tvision to search
Speaker 1: for Game of Thrones or a ask Tvision to search
Speaker 1: for or tune into KTLA, So it's kind of weird,
Speaker 1: like you're faster just supress channel five on your remote
Speaker 1: than to ask all that right. Also, the remote does
Speaker 1: not work RF, which means it's a line of sight,
Speaker 1: so I had to aim it at the box, which
Speaker 1: is also weird because I'm so used to Apple TV
Speaker 1: and Roku and all these other ones. With the remote,
Speaker 1: you just kind of hold in your hand and you
Speaker 1: aim at anywhere and it still works, right, And then
Speaker 1: you lose things like Spectrum Sports net La that carries
Speaker 1: the Dodgers if you switch. And by the way, once
Speaker 1: you switch and get rid of your cable, your internet
Speaker 1: fee is probably going to go up. So again, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm not really hip on the t Vision and the apps.
Speaker 1: There's only a handful of apps. It's like YouTube, Pandora, iHeartRadio,
Speaker 1: and they say by the end of the year there's
Speaker 1: those dreaded words. Again, by the end of the year
Speaker 1: they're gonna have Amazon and Netflix. But by the end
Speaker 1: of the year that's like six more months, more than
Speaker 1: six months. Yeah, that's a whole That's a lot can
Speaker 1: change in a year, right, So again, I love what
Speaker 1: T Mobile's doing, and I think that they're trying to
Speaker 1: like push cable forward, but this is not it just yet.
Speaker 1: I think in the future, when T mobile has a
Speaker 1: five G wireless network that reaches everyone and you can
Speaker 1: literally plug in their box to the to the Wi
Speaker 1: Fi or to the to their wireless five G that'll
Speaker 1: be great or even better when you can download the
Speaker 1: T mobile t Vision app to your Apple TV and
Speaker 1: just use it that way that will be good. But
Speaker 1: then I'm like, well, why do you need it? Just
Speaker 1: use your Apple TV. So again, head scratcher. If you
Speaker 1: want to read my full review, it's on my website.
Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV Megan back to you.
Speaker 3: Our next question is for Christina Truhilo. She says, Hi, Rich,
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan and appreciate all your tips in
Speaker 3: the morning. A while back, you talked about a site
Speaker 3: or app that once that once you input your insurance info,
Speaker 3: it compares various insurance options to find you the lowest rate.
Speaker 3: I remember it was an easy name, one syllable, but
Speaker 3: for the life of me, I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 3: I could really use it now if you could help
Speaker 3: dog my memory, I would be super appreciative.
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is actually something I need to do right now,
Speaker 1: so thanks for reminding me. Christina. The website is called
Speaker 1: Gabby Gabi and she was right, it was simple, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I just got my renewal for my insurance and
Speaker 1: it went way up and I didn't change anything. So
Speaker 1: it's like an extra I think like thirty or forty
Speaker 1: bucks a month, which I will be shopping around. I
Speaker 1: haven't shopped for new auto insurance in like a decade,
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things like who wants to
Speaker 1: you know, who wants to do that? Right? You go,
Speaker 1: you get your fee, you don't you want to deal
Speaker 1: with it. So the website is Gabby and here's what
Speaker 1: they do differently. So they use artificial intelligence to actually
Speaker 1: look up your current insurance and compare rates. So most
Speaker 1: of the time you just type in all this information
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. This one you link your current
Speaker 1: insurance accounts, you log in with that, they go in
Speaker 1: and they kind of like crawl your account to see
Speaker 1: what all the coverages you have and stuff, and then
Speaker 1: they scan and go out to a whole bunch of providers.
Speaker 1: I'm looking on their website right now to see who
Speaker 1: the Triple A, MetLife, Clearcover, Farmers, Hippo, Geico, Traveler, State Farm, Safeco, Nationwide, Mercury,
Speaker 1: twenty plus companies. And they get a quote from those
Speaker 1: companies based on your current service. Now, if you don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, because some people might say rich that sounds
Speaker 1: like an invasion of privacy. If I put my PDF,
Speaker 1: you know, if you put that, if you you know,
Speaker 1: link your insurance account. You might be feeling like that's
Speaker 1: an invasion of your privacy. So alternatively, you can upload
Speaker 1: a pdf of your you know, coverages, and they'll scan
Speaker 1: the PDF and look at it that way. But I
Speaker 1: think you just want to do it the way you should,
Speaker 1: which is log in with your current account. They're using
Speaker 1: security and all that stuff. But the other thing they
Speaker 1: do is if they can't find you a cheaper rate
Speaker 1: right now, they will continue to monitor your insurance for
Speaker 1: when it's renewal time and they'll send you an alert, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Gabby, I sign up for you and
Speaker 1: I did not get that alert and it's my renewal time,
Speaker 1: so hopefully that feature is still working. But and if
Speaker 1: you're in California, by the way, Christina, I will just
Speaker 1: kind of cut to the chase and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the cheapest quote you're going to get from them is
Speaker 1: probably clear Cover, which is this new insurance company that's
Speaker 1: operating and it's relatively new, but they're operating in California
Speaker 1: is one of their states, and they're really competitive. So
Speaker 1: that's who I'm looking at because it's pretty good coverage
Speaker 1: for pretty good price, so good questions. Thank you, good questions,
Speaker 1: Megan speaking to T Mobile. I know we were talking
Speaker 1: about them before and speaking of money, they now have
Speaker 1: this new thing called T Mobile Money, and this is
Speaker 1: kind of a checking account for the you know, millennial
Speaker 1: or anyone else who wants a cheap digital checking account.
Speaker 1: So it's open to anyone. This was something that was
Speaker 1: around before, but now they've made it nationwide and you
Speaker 1: sign up right from your phone, right on an app,
Speaker 1: and you can make mobile check deposits. You can set
Speaker 1: up direct deposits, pay bills, send a paper check. There's
Speaker 1: no check like payper check, but they'll cut one for you.
Speaker 1: You can add your card to a mobile wall like
Speaker 1: Apple Pay, Google Pay, and Samsung Pay. You can make
Speaker 1: payments person a person, and you even get a MasterCard
Speaker 1: debit card. And the ATMs are all free, fifty five
Speaker 1: thousand all point ATMs. There's no fees, so no overdraft fees,
Speaker 1: no ATM fees, no monthly fees. So this is kind
Speaker 1: of a cool idea if you are looking for a
Speaker 1: checking account that you don't want to deal with a
Speaker 1: lot of these fees. A lot of the big banks
Speaker 1: do not offer like a free, truly free checking anymore.
Speaker 1: The only caveat with this one is you have to
Speaker 1: have a two hundred dollars in deposits every month for
Speaker 1: it to be like pretty much, I don't really know
Speaker 1: what they do. If you don't, I guess you don't
Speaker 1: get interest if it doesn't. But here's the interest. If
Speaker 1: you're a T mobile customer, you get four percent interest
Speaker 1: on up to three thousand dollars. If you're a regular customer,
Speaker 1: you get one percent interest on your checking. So anyway,
Speaker 1: Tea Mobile Money available now nationwide. Check it out. Google
Speaker 1: Home has a few new tricks you can use, and
Speaker 1: this is a I guess linked to the Spring, but
Speaker 1: Google came out with the blog post. There's a new
Speaker 1: Gentle Sleep and wake feature, So if you have Phillips
Speaker 1: Hughes smart lights in your home, you can now ask
Speaker 1: Google to turn on Gentle wake Up, which will pair
Speaker 1: your morning alarm with gradual brightening of your lights. Now, Megan,
Speaker 1: I know I wake up super early. I think you
Speaker 1: do too, because you're in here when I'm in here. Yes,
Speaker 1: at KTLA, So this would not work for us, But
Speaker 1: if I was on a normal sleep schedule, I would
Speaker 1: love this feature because I would love to be gently
Speaker 1: woken up by the lights in my room getting brighter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the sunrise, right, So that's cool.
Speaker 1: Then you have wake up my lights, which you can say,
Speaker 1: and you can say wake up my lights in the
Speaker 1: bedroom at six am, and this will gradually brighten your
Speaker 1: lights at that time.
Speaker 2: So I would need that for like three am, yeah, a.
Speaker 1: Lot earlier, but that'd be cool. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a great idea. I mean, I love the idea
Speaker 1: of I always set my alarm using bedtime on the
Speaker 1: iPhone because it gently increases the volume of the alarm
Speaker 1: versus the blaring alarm which went off today and it
Speaker 1: was very jarring. Sleep my lights will do the same thing,
Speaker 1: except opposite, so they just so this is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Let's say you're watching Netflix in the living room. You've
Speaker 1: got this shoe, the Google heel or the Phillips shoe lights,
Speaker 1: you say, sleep my lights, and then it will gradually
Speaker 1: dim your lights I think over the next like half
Speaker 1: an hour or so to like darkness. So you know,
Speaker 1: like when that when those lights go.
Speaker 2: Dark, it's time for bed.
Speaker 1: Time for bed So if you can't, you know, if
Speaker 1: you have no self control, the lights will tell you
Speaker 1: when it's time to go to bed. The other thing
Speaker 1: you could also do is say the code word, you know,
Speaker 1: Google play white noise and you'll get some white noise
Speaker 1: out of your speaker as well.
Speaker 2: I love that future.
Speaker 1: Did you have any more questions?
Speaker 2: Or I have two more?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how many did you get? I think
Speaker 1: we'll take one more, So give me the best one
Speaker 1: you have. Okay, you pick Megan. This is this is
Speaker 1: your moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is a good question.
Speaker 1: This is the time to shine.
Speaker 3: This is from Paulette Sorenson. She says, Hi, can you
Speaker 3: please help me with suggestions for a wireless printer for
Speaker 3: my iPad two? I have a Verizon, my MEFI, my
Speaker 3: five Fi, my Fi jet pack seventy seven thirty.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, very thank you for the very specific numbers there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks.
Speaker 3: I have tried to research this and everything I find
Speaker 3: says they are very difficult and time time consuming to
Speaker 3: set up. I am a senior not to tech savvy
Speaker 3: and must must say not so much. Wait, most say
Speaker 3: not much. Customer service comes with one. I appreciate your
Speaker 3: segment on Fox Sacramento and any advice you have for me,
Speaker 3: I would use the printer only a few times a.
Speaker 2: Year for documents that come through email. Thank you, Paullett, Okay.
Speaker 1: Paul Ette number one, thanks for watching on Fox forty.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know, but our report is
Speaker 1: syndicated to a bunch of TV stations nationwide, not just KTLA.
Speaker 1: Fox forty up in Sacramento is one of them. And Paulette,
Speaker 1: to answer your question, here's the thing. So what you're
Speaker 1: probably referring to is AirPrint. This is a feature that
Speaker 1: Apple tried to get to take off many years ago.
Speaker 1: It never really did. Like some printer support it, some don't.
Speaker 1: But here's a little secret about all the printers out there.
Speaker 1: You don't need Apple to support them with AirPrint as
Speaker 1: long as it's a Wi Fi printer. Just bypass AirPrint
Speaker 1: altogether and just literally download the app from the manufacture
Speaker 1: of the printer you have. So, if you have an
Speaker 1: HP printer, literally go to the app store and just
Speaker 1: download the HP print app. If you have Brother Printer,
Speaker 1: like I do, you just go to the app store,
Speaker 1: you download the Brother Printer app, and now you print
Speaker 1: through that app. So it makes it very easy. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like when you open up a document it says,
Speaker 1: you know, share two. You literally share it to that
Speaker 1: app and then the app handles the printing and the
Speaker 1: talking to the printer. So you don't actually need to
Speaker 1: have that air print feature. So if your printer connects
Speaker 1: to your Wi Fi network, this is probably the best solution.
Speaker 1: But again, even if I'm even if you're out there
Speaker 1: and you've got a printer that's older like mine is
Speaker 1: like five six years might be seven years old at
Speaker 1: this point, it doesn't matter. It doesn't need all this
Speaker 1: fancy stuff. You just as long as the app that's
Speaker 1: made for that printer talks to the printer, you'll have
Speaker 1: a lot of luck printing right from your phone and
Speaker 1: it's really easy. So good question there, all right. So
Speaker 1: for parents, if you're a parent, this is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite tips. And I shared this on my Instagram
Speaker 1: and I shared on my Facebook and parents are loving it.
Speaker 1: And this is what happens, Megan, you're not a parent,
Speaker 1: but here's what happens. When you're a parent. You want
Speaker 1: to reclaim as much of your personal time as you can,
Speaker 1: so you offload a lot of your time to your
Speaker 1: iPad with your CA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what my parents did.
Speaker 1: It's great parenting, right, Yeah, I'm just kidding. That's how
Speaker 1: you're raised.
Speaker 2: Don't just don't play with your kids just as.
Speaker 1: Much as iPad time you can give them, Just give
Speaker 1: them that time. So here's the thing. So, yes, I
Speaker 1: get it. Screen time is terrible and you should. You're
Speaker 1: a terrible parent if you ever let your kids watch
Speaker 1: your iPhone your iPad. But the reality is we do.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened. When I grew up, we watched cartoons.
Speaker 1: We watch them forever. I'm fine, right, am I pretty normal?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean parents need a break.
Speaker 1: So exactly, parents need a break.
Speaker 2: Treat yourself.
Speaker 1: So this is a feature called guided Access. And with
Speaker 1: this feature, when you hand your iPhone or your iPad
Speaker 1: to your child, they can't exit the app that they
Speaker 1: are using. So, for instance, you say, all right, kid,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have some dinner. You watch YouTube, right,
Speaker 1: and so you hand them YouTube. What happens two seconds
Speaker 1: later they're like, mom, I can't figure this out. The
Speaker 1: app exited. So you're like, oh, okay, watch this. So
Speaker 1: when you turn on guided access, you then triple click
Speaker 1: the home button or the side button three times. It
Speaker 1: will bring up this feature, and then it locks that
Speaker 1: app so you can't exit it, which is really cool.
Speaker 1: So now there's even if you want to take it
Speaker 1: a step further. Let's say there's a function on the app,
Speaker 1: like on the Netflix app, which I don't understand. By
Speaker 1: the way, Netflix, the kids can switch out of the
Speaker 1: kid's profile in a second to any other profile they
Speaker 1: want by just tapping the profile button. Why would Netflix
Speaker 1: allow that? Right, they don't care, So you as a
Speaker 1: parent might want to keep that area from them touching, right,
Speaker 1: so you can actually circle on over the button that
Speaker 1: you don't want them pressing, And the iPhone is smart
Speaker 1: enough to like kind of basically grade out like they
Speaker 1: can't touch it, which is kind of cool. So not
Speaker 1: only can they not exit the app, but they also
Speaker 1: can't touch that button to switch profiles or search or
Speaker 1: whatever function you want to kind of like gray out
Speaker 1: right disable. I should say so again, when you're done,
Speaker 1: you just have to again triple click three times and
Speaker 1: it will ask you for a printal passcode. Don't share
Speaker 1: that with your kids, obviously, and you can go back
Speaker 1: to using your phone as no. But if you want
Speaker 1: to watch the whole tip, it's on my Instagram at
Speaker 1: rich On Tech. But a lot of folks have kind
Speaker 1: of loved that tip, right, Megan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my parents would love it. But I
Speaker 3: am not really a child anymore.
Speaker 1: So BBM does that mean anything to you?
Speaker 2: BBM? Yeah, BlackBerry, do you remember did you ever have one? No? Right,
Speaker 2: I didn't, but everyone I knew how to.
Speaker 1: But you remember, like BBM was like the way.
Speaker 2: I was, the I Message of like two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: Yes, so BBM is saying goodbye May thirty first, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: goodbye to BBM. So BBM was way before its time.
Speaker 1: It was basically an I message before I message existed, right,
Speaker 1: except I liked it better because I message hijacks your
Speaker 1: phone number and sends your text through their you know,
Speaker 1: proprietary stuff which I won't get into that. But BBM
Speaker 1: was actually a pin. Remember send me your BBM pin?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, what would you just why?
Speaker 2: I didn't have it?
Speaker 1: But I do remember semi your pin. People would post
Speaker 1: them on our websites whatever it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: here's my pin. So this is so sad. The blog
Speaker 1: post from BlackBerry is so sad. It's three years ago.
Speaker 1: We set out to reinvigorate BBM, so I guess they
Speaker 1: tried to make it a thing again a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. They say, we poured our hearts into making
Speaker 1: this a reality, and we are proud of what we built.
Speaker 1: The technology industry, however, is very fluid, and in spite
Speaker 1: of our substantial efforts, users have moved on to other platforms,
Speaker 1: while new users proved difficult to sign on. Though we
Speaker 1: are sad to say goodbye, the time has come to
Speaker 1: sunset the BBN BBM consumer service. We hope you will
Speaker 1: cherish many fond memories of BBM that helped shape messenger
Speaker 1: platforms to become what they are today, which is true.
Speaker 1: But how sad is that it's like it's sad. They
Speaker 1: know it's sad. It's not sad because nobody's used it
Speaker 1: like ten years, So yeah, it is, but it's still
Speaker 1: like you have fond memory. So I give you exhibit
Speaker 1: Exhibit A. This is I searched my Gmail for BlackBerry
Speaker 1: or BBM pin and here's what I found. Dated Monday,
Speaker 1: May eleventh, two thousand and nine, Rich d'miro wrote to
Speaker 1: my wife, when you get a second, send me your
Speaker 1: BlackBerry pin so we can BBM and stop using texts
Speaker 1: go to options than status to find it love rich. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's poetic, isn't that crazy? So just cra Almost ten
Speaker 1: years ago to the day, I was sending this message
Speaker 1: to my wife Shakespeare to ask her for her BBM pin.
Speaker 1: It would be a lot nicer if, like we were
Speaker 1: dating back then. I was like, send me your pin,
Speaker 1: you know, but I think we're already married. I should
Speaker 1: probably know that. Yeah, we were married. So anyway, BBM
Speaker 1: is dead. Don't try to BBM me. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to use I wish that we can decide on a
Speaker 1: platform like BBM because as much as I love I message,
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that one company controls I message.
Speaker 1: I would much rather have a cross platform like tech
Speaker 1: messaging if that was like better, you know, if like
Speaker 1: you can send pictures and videos and see you received
Speaker 1: text and all that stuff. But my message is great,
Speaker 1: But it's it's Apple's baby, and when one person controls something,
Speaker 1: it's not good for the consumer. No matter what as
Speaker 1: much as we love it, it's still not good for us.
Speaker 1: So that's the lesson learned. Yeah, all right, thanks for
Speaker 1: listening to the show. That's going to do it. For
Speaker 1: this episode of rich on Tech. If you like the show,
Speaker 1: rate and review it on Apple Podcasts. But the best
Speaker 1: thing you can do is really just go ahead and
Speaker 1: tell a friend about it. So my book is one
Speaker 1: hundred and one Handy Tech Tips for the iPhone. It's
Speaker 1: available now on Amazon. It's a bestseller, back to number one,
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, so a lot of people love it.
Speaker 1: Four and a half stars at least, it might even
Speaker 1: be up to four point eight. But it means a
Speaker 1: lot of people read me and like it. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: not just two reviewers like not like it's like my
Speaker 1: mom and like my sister that reviewed it, because, by
Speaker 1: the way, they probably haven't even read it, like my wife.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to call them out.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to call them out, but I just
Speaker 2: did you.
Speaker 1: Know when your friends ask you questions that were in
Speaker 1: the book? Yeah, and I'm like, you clearly did not
Speaker 1: read chapter ninety seven. Not that I know the chapters,
Speaker 1: but like, it's pretty clear when I gave you a
Speaker 1: free book and you're asking me a question six months
Speaker 1: later that you didn't read it. But it's okay. My
Speaker 1: wife is like, that's what I have you for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Megan where do they find you on social media?
Speaker 3: I'm on Twitter and Instagram. Just Megan mcmonagall.
Speaker 1: Oh you haven't changed it yet to producer Meghan not Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to. I know you don't want to.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I really don't want to.
Speaker 1: I know. That's why I'm gonna keep just pushing you
Speaker 1: on it. It's okay, all right, so find heer Megan
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