1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's Friday, the twenty ninth of December in London. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Europe podcast. I'm Stephen Carroll. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Coming up today, Maine becomes the second US date to 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: try to bar Donald Trump from its Republican primary ballot. 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: A new survey shows UK householder more worried about their 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: financial security heading into twenty twenty four despite slowing inflation. 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Plus on the last trading day of the year, we'll 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: look at what Wall Street's biggest names got wrong in 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: their market predictions for twenty twenty three. Let's start with 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: a roundup of our top stories. The top election official 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: in the state of Maine has ruled that Donald Trump 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: cannot run in the state's Republican primary. In her decision, 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: Secretary of State and Democrat Shennabellos cited the former president's 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election. She added that 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Trump could appeal her decision, which comes just weeks before 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the first Republican primary in Iowa. The former president plans 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: to file a legal objection in state court. He's faced 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: dozens of lawsuits across the US claiming he's ineligible for 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: another term under a legal provision which states that a 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: person who took an oath to support the constitution and 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: then engaged in quote insurrection is ineligible to hold office. 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Half of the container ships which regularly use the Suez 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: Canal are avoiding the route after the recent string of 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: attacks by Huthi militants in the Red Sea. Data compiled 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: by Flexport shows two hundred and ninety nine container ships 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: have either changed course or planned to, accounting for eighteen 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: percent of global trade. Mercury Resources CEO Anton Posner specializes 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: in supply chains. He says many major firms want to 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: know more about the US response to the attacks. 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: So at this point it's a lot of weight in 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: sea in what's happening with the international coalition. We're seeing, 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: of course, increased freed increased insurance, a lot of uncertainty 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: and mixed signals from from owners, container lines and from 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: governments on what's happening to baslee mitigate the risk and 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: the threats that are out there for nesium in the 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: art groups. 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Posner added that some containers are putting off decisions until 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: the new year while attacks continue. The US military says 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: it's speaking with shipping companies to ease their concerns. Ukraine's 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: Prime minister has sounded the alarm over the country's finances 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: as international aid dwindles. Dennis Schimal has asked for an 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: emergency meeting with international donors as Key fears running out 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: of money in the new year. Roughly one hundred and 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: ten billion dollars is held up in political wrangling by 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: the United States and the European Union. The chip maker 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: in Vidia is selling a downgraded version of its gaming 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: chip to Chinese consumers. The version for the Chinese market 48 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: has about ten percent fewer processing cores than what the 49 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: chip giant sells in other countries. This comes after the 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: US government has tightened restrictions on what the company can 51 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: market there. Bloomberg's Ian King says, so far commercial backlash 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: is limited. 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: How much of a general impact is going to make 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: Probably not a huge amount. I mean, how many people 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: can afford two thousand dollars for a card. The volumes 56 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: of the market is as much lower tier than that. 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: But really what matters is what happens in the AI 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: accelerator market. In Videos said it's going to have new 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: chips for that business for China to meet these new rules. 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: We don't know when that's coming or if, indeed if 61 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: that will actually come, and that will have a much 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: more concrete impact on revenue. 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg z and King reporting the divide sets up a 64 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: future geopolitical issue for Nvidia, which is by far the 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: best performing semiconductor stock in twenty twenty three and the 66 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: industry's first company with the market value of one trillion dollars. 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: UK consumers are more worried about their financial security heading 68 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: into the new year. New survey shows that slowing inflation 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: isn't enough to encourage spending as households make an effort 70 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: to cut back. Bloombergs t Bio has the details. 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: Inflation may have more than halved in twenty twenty three, 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean households are feeling better about the economy. 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: A KPMG survey has found four in ten UK consumers 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: say that in a worse financial position than the end 75 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: of last year. The findings add to fears the British 76 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 4: economy will stagnate or even shrink as people cut back 77 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 4: on spending. Add to that a warning from the Trade 78 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: Union Congress that unsecured debt excluding student loans, is set 79 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: to rise by eleven percent next year. These factors setting 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: a gloomy economic scene as the UK moves into an 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: election year in London. To add a bio Bloomberg. 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Radio, the heirest the Laril Cosmetics Empire has become the 83 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: first woman to amass a one hundred billion dollar fortune, 84 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Passwha's Bettencorn Myyers reached the milestone on Thursday, when her 85 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: wealth jumped to one hundred point one billion dollars according 86 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: to the Bloomberg Billionaire's Index. The increased came as shares 87 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: and Laril rose to a record high, with the stock 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: set for its best year since nineteen ninety eight. Bettencore 89 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: Meyers inherited the stake in the beauty products empire from 90 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: her mother in twenty seventeen. Well, in a moment, we'll 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: be discussing how the market bets from some of Wall 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Street's biggest names in twenty twenty three didn't go as planned. 93 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: But another Bloomberg article that caught my eye this morning 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: of some Ore colleague Howard chiwai Wan from Bloomberg Opinion 95 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: about the dangers of being angry Apartment being a very 96 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: amusing read about Howard's experiences of being hungry It's also 97 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: a good reminder that, with January in mind, the effects 98 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: that hunger can have on your mood and how you 99 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: behave at work. Now, that could be because perhaps you're 100 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: cutting back on how much you're eating after an indulgent 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: Christmas season, or perhaps that you're just too busy to eat. 102 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Howard's message in general is let's resolve to be aware 103 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: of the conditions that contribute to hanger and take ourselves 104 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: and others out of the path of what he describes 105 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: as irrational rage. It's perhaps a suitable note to end 106 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: the year on. You can read the full piece on 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: the terminal or on bloomberg dot com. Well, let's get 108 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: more the political story out of the US. The top 109 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: election official and Maine has barred Donald Trump from the 110 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: state's Republican primary. Bloomberg's John Harney joins us from Washington 111 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: with the latest. John, great to have you with us. 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: What has Maine Secretary of State decided and why? 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 5: Well she was responding, she writes in her decision to 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 5: challenges from Maine voters, and she decided that Donald Trump 115 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 5: could not be on the Republican primary ballot because he 116 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 5: had engaged in insurrection because of his efforts to overturn 117 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty election results, and particularly his actions on 118 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 5: January sixth, twenty twenty one, when, of course, his supporters 119 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: assaulted or assaulted the capital as electoral vote for being countered. 120 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: And she points out that she did not take this 121 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: decision lightly, but that you know, no, no secretary of 122 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 5: State in Maine had ever before deprived a candidate a 123 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: ballot access. But and I'm quoting here, no presidential candidates 124 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: ever before engaged in insurrection under the fourteenth Amendment of 125 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 5: the Constitution. 126 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: What has been the reaction from the Trump campaign. 127 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 5: Well, it was, it was, it was quite swift after 128 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: the after Ms. Bellows had issued her ruling, and it 129 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 5: immediately accused her. She is she is a Democrat, and 130 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: she ran for the United States Senate against Susan unsuccessfully 131 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: against Susan Collins back in twenty twenty, couple of years ago. They, 132 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 5: you know, the campaign said that this was politically motivated, 133 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 5: this decision and an attempt to fix the twenty twenty 134 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: four election, and also referred to efforts to keep Trump 135 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 5: off the ballot in other states. 136 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: This cup comes after, as you mentioned, a similar decision 137 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: in Colorado earlier this month, Donald Trump though back on 138 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: the ballot there. What's happened? 139 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: Well, he. 140 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: He was that, I mean he that was a court ruling, 141 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: the state Supreme Court in Colorado that he could not 142 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 5: be on the ballot. He was ever, he was ever 143 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: officially to take it off. But that case has now 144 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: been put off because the europe the Colorado Republican Party 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: has has petitioned the United States Supreme Court, which will 146 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: almost certainly have to decide this as it's you know, 147 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 5: as these cases and challenges keep arising in many in 148 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: many states throughout the country, even as the first votes, 149 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: as you pointed out, are about to be about the 150 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: first votes of the twenty twenty four primary primary season 151 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 5: are about to take place in the Iowa caucuses in 152 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: the middle of January. 153 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: What's the big picture effect of these legal challenges? Of course, 154 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: as you say, there are appeals underway. What does it 155 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: mean for Donald Trump's prospects for an election that's now 156 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: less than a year away. 157 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 5: Well, it's one more it's one more factor of one 158 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: more bit of uncertainty as as he tries to as 159 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 5: he makes his comeback or attempt to come back to 160 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 5: win the publican nomination and then the White House next November. 161 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 5: He faces several criminal faces, criminal trials in the year 162 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 5: that may well take place in the year ahead, and 163 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: possible convictions. 164 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 165 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 5: There's also there's also civil cases, most notably in New 166 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 5: York when which that might that might severely curtail his business, 167 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 5: you know, his you know, his Trump Organization's business, the source, 168 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 5: the source of the family of fortune. And at the 169 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 5: same time, you know, none of these, none of these 170 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: uh setbacks seemed to or which you think would be setbacks, 171 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 5: seem to have harmed him, at least uh in the 172 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: minds of many of the Republican voters. And they and 173 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: they have not helped his Republican rivals or President Joe Biden, 174 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 5: of course, is running on the Democratic ticket. 175 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, and that's going to be one of the 176 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: factors that we'll be watching as we watch the legal 177 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: processes continuing to play out both in Maine and in Colorado. 178 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: John Harney in Washington, thank you so much for joining 179 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: us with the latest on that story. That's Bloomberg. 180 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: John Harney there, Well. 181 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: It is the final trading day of the year for markets, 182 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: and today's Bloomberg Big Take report is looking at what 183 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: Wall Street's biggest names had been expecting to see this 184 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: year and how those calls held up during the year. 185 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: The consensus view formed around three things, mainly sell US stocks, 186 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: by treasuries, and by Chinese stocks. To talk us through 187 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: how that went, we're joined by our senior global equity 188 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: markets reporter, jan Patrick Barner JP. Great to have you 189 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: with us. First of all, what formed the basis of 190 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: these calls a year ago? 191 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 6: Good morning, Well, I mean at the core was the 192 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 6: idea that the US Federal Reserve would drive the US 193 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 6: economy into a recession, and that of course would have 194 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 6: the ripple effects to stocks and bonds, meaning that everybody 195 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 6: expected US stocks will lead a decline in global markets 196 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: and that the Fed will then have to cut raids, 197 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 6: and hence it would be a good idea to be 198 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 6: long bond was at the core of the prediction. As 199 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 6: we now all know, didn't go that way. But it 200 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 6: was very hard to make the call at the beginning 201 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 6: of the year given everything that happened before, mainly with 202 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 6: the pandemic and all the effects it had on the 203 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 6: economy and the consumer. So I wouldn't go too hard 204 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 6: on those being wrong. For this year, because it really 205 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 6: was a tough call to make. 206 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: Of course, regular lester just know that the reality of 207 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: the year's training didn't match the expectations from those big 208 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Wall Street calls to talk us through what happened first 209 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: of all to US stocks and bonds. Why didn't that 210 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: pan out as had perhaps been expected. 211 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very surprising. I mean, there were early 212 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: signs in January February that the economy would help, economy 213 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 6: would held up better than expected. I guess everybody was 214 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 6: very surprised that the consumer was still very strong. Those 215 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 6: savings that piled up during the pandemic like helped a 216 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: lot with that. So that goes back to the idea 217 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 6: that I said, it's hard to make a prediction when 218 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 6: you have those kinds of mechanics that you really can't 219 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 6: you can't really predict what's goning on. And so the 220 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 6: the the corporate earnings front also looked looked very healthy. 221 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: Corporates were able to take those higher inflations from from 222 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 6: producing stuff and forward this to the to the consumer, 223 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 6: So that helped a lot with with the earnings. I mean, 224 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 6: we saw Ernie's contraction, of course, but the top line 225 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 6: held up well the margins still looked healthy. So all 226 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 6: that of course helped the two pile stocks up and 227 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 6: then you added them let's say the not one of effects, 228 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 6: but like these these special circumstances, mainly the frenzy about 229 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 6: artificial intelligence that propelled all those megacaps to new highs, 230 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 6: which of course then has big effects on on the 231 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: broader indices. And then the obesity trade was a was 232 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 6: a big one. So those like one of trades or 233 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 6: one one of themes like also helped the market a lot. 234 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 6: Nobody saw that coming and that pushed stocks to two 235 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 6: levels we haven't seen. 236 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: What about the China question then, because that was one 237 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: that's quite a lot of these analysts got wrong. 238 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, And it's kind of an interesting story because 239 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: there was the notion of a reopening trade in China, 240 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 6: and I would say that if you look at European stocks, 241 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 6: this notion held up pretty well throughout the year, because 242 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 6: if you look at the Germany stocks, for example, who 243 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 6: is like highly skewed towards China is training at an 244 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 6: all time high right now. So it works for Europe. 245 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 6: It didn't work so well for the Chinese stocks itself. 246 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 6: A thing like the Hunsanng is downe like mine is 247 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 6: fourteen percent or something like this year because the economy 248 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 6: still struggled and the government had to push out measure 249 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: after measure to keep the couple the economy some kind 250 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 6: of a float. So it's interesting that domestically the market 251 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 6: is still like having a very bearish and very doomish 252 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 6: view on China, while you have the outside view from 253 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 6: everybody who is like importing into China is rather sangin 254 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 6: about it. So it's an interesting two false story. 255 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: This year, tabe. 256 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: Does it matter that these calls didn't work out? 257 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: Does it? 258 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: Is it going to change if people look at the 259 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: calls people are making for next year? 260 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 6: Well, I guess it's a good lesson that even like 261 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 6: the most brightest and smartest people on Wall Street can 262 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: be wrong from time to time. Again, it was a 263 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 6: very hard prediction to make with the pandemic and everythings 264 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 6: that were satelliting around it to get everything into place 265 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 6: and make this call. So I would say, like, if 266 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: it's just about this year, we can be very forgiven 267 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 6: that those people were wrong. What I didn't really understand, 268 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 6: and that was the more shocking part to me, is 269 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 6: like when there were signs in let's say January February, 270 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 6: and especially after the banking crisis was resolved in March, 271 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 6: it looked all very good. The economic indicators looked good, 272 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: the earnings look good, and I was very surprised that 273 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 6: those big strategies didn't revert it their calls and said like, okay, 274 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 6: we were wrong. This looks better. We have to tone 275 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 6: down our bear review. And they held to it like 276 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 6: very long, almost until until summer, until the then folded 277 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 6: their hands. So I would blend them for that for sure. 278 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 279 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 280 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning on Apple, 281 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere you get your podcasts. 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