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Speaker 1: And welcome to Lake Kick is Live. It is Thursday

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Speaker 1: night in March tenth. Thee O Our Lord twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Jam packed high a top a blissfully unaware. Downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Sixty five degrees gonna be like sixty eight degrees tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Boom, winter storm tomorrow night. No one knows.

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Speaker 1: The only reason our staff knows is because I go

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Speaker 1: to the links that it takes to protect them and

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Speaker 1: keep them safe. So hey, heads up tomorrow, Probably gonna

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Speaker 1: store around Nashville if you're in the area. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you where they're watching us tonight.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: Guys, they're watching us in Warm Springs, Georgia, home of

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Speaker 1: the Bullet Cows. I have dined there many a time.

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Speaker 1: Also Crevcore, Illinois. They're watching us there. They're watching us

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Speaker 1: in Ashbourne, Virginia, Sierra Vista, Arizona. They're watching us all

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Speaker 1: over the place. Thank you so much for that. You

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Speaker 1: know what we have to talk about tonight. You and

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Speaker 1: I have to talk about quarterback battles. I had like

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Speaker 1: fourteen of them this morning. I asked you guys on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at late kick Josh, by the way, which of

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Speaker 1: these is the most intriguing. I narrowed it down to eight,

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Speaker 1: and that's really stretching it because I really want to

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Speaker 1: go past that. But I got eight of them that

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about tonight. I think

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Speaker 1: we'll learn a little bit about some of these programs

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Speaker 1: in spring. I think we'll just be further confused at

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Speaker 1: the end of spring with some of these other programs targeting.

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Speaker 1: The other night, we talked about targeting, and I gave

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Speaker 1: you my thoughts and most of you agreed in theory.

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Speaker 1: But boy, I got a lot of phone calls after

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Speaker 1: that show. Not being in trouble necessarily, but I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of people they called me up, and you know, ladies,

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Speaker 1: you're not the only one who deals with it. I

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Speaker 1: got man splained to the other night, and they manxplained

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Speaker 1: the legal side. I guess I got legal splained. I

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Speaker 1: got attorney splained, and they told me, you know, I

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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying about targeting, but there's more you

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Speaker 1: need to know. Well, I have some counters for the

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Speaker 1: more you need to know crowd. Tonight we're going through

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Speaker 1: discuss because a lot of you got really worked up,

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Speaker 1: as did I. It's Texas mood. Tracker night, So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna head to Austin. I don't think the reality matches

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Speaker 1: the perception. There's going to be right up front with you.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you folks think a lot of things

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Speaker 1: cause quinn Ewers comes in town. I mean, everyone's playoff

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Speaker 1: or busts out there in Austin. All that, plus, we

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Speaker 1: tonight into the treacherous waters of the southern California real

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Speaker 1: estate market. Lincoln Riley's got himself a new home and

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Speaker 1: we get to take a very very intimate look at it.

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Speaker 1: Well because it's high priced real estate in southern California.

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Speaker 1: So everyone's got helicopter videos made of their homes and

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Speaker 1: he is no different.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen point two million.

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Speaker 1: Dollars, I'm going to show you what that buys you

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Speaker 1: in southern California. Hey, the favor of the week that

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Speaker 1: we're asking is very simple. If you're listening on podcast

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Speaker 1: The biggest compliment we got from the lay Cake Extra

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Speaker 1: You don't really care what I'm saying. So let's dive

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Speaker 1: into the show as quick as we can. Tonight, quarterback

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Speaker 1: battles all across the country. Spring practice. The curtains kind

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Speaker 1: And I was talking to Colin out there in whatever

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Speaker 1: This one got mentioned to me more than anyone. I

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Speaker 1: last year, you got Clemson as the preemptive favorite obviously

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Speaker 1: It entertains us at least a thought in your mind

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Speaker 1: benefit Clems. And that's not the only question they have,

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Speaker 1: That's the ultimate guy who's going to win the job.

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Speaker 1: got some information that I was unaware of yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: I immediately got in touch with our sales department. So

432
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Speaker 1: one of you was at Academy Sports and Outdoors and

433
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Speaker 1: you were shopping for a tent, and that's great. Many

434
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Speaker 1: have done that before, and I hope you found what

435
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Speaker 1: you were looking for, But you found something that I

436
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Speaker 1: was looking for that I didn't even know I needed.

437
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Speaker 1: Jesse and Collin, I didn't tell you this yet. So

438
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Speaker 1: a lot of times we looked for things to liven

439
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Speaker 1: up the set because right now, you know, we're kind

440
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Speaker 1: of in we're in still a very corporate feeling studio.

441
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Speaker 1: We haven't made it our own yet, you know, we haven't.

442
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Speaker 1: We're still feeling our way out in here. And I've

443
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Speaker 1: told academy just send me some stuff, we'll find places

444
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Speaker 1: for it, but I haven't really been specific. Well the

445
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Speaker 1: other day, yesterday, as a matter of fact, one of

446
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Speaker 1: you sends me a picture and it turns out at

447
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Speaker 1: this Academy Sports and Outdoors, Yeah they got tents. But

448
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Speaker 1: and this is genius, by the way, whoever's making the

449
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Speaker 1: decisions of the academy, they have miniature versions of the

450
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Speaker 1: tents that are little samples that you can look at,

451
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Speaker 1: so you don't have just look at the box. You

452
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Speaker 1: can actually see a little scale, little mini version of

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Speaker 1: the tent you're gonna buy. And I was thinking to myself, listen,

454
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Speaker 1: I love our pate State Thermis here. There's only one

455
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Speaker 1: of those in existence, right, No our college football playoff thermist.

456
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Speaker 2: I could take it or leave it.

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Speaker 1: In fact, why do we advertise for an entity we

458
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Speaker 1: are not even really about. So, actually, Colin, I'll tell

459
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Speaker 1: you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna turn that where

460
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Speaker 1: we can't see the playoff logo, all right, And I

461
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Speaker 1: love our stars, but I'd really love a mini tent

462
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Speaker 1: out there. So I told Nick, our sales guy, I said,

463
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Speaker 1: get us a mini tent. Call academy, do whatever we

464
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Speaker 1: got to do to get a mini tent. And then

465
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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, what I think you should do,

466
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Speaker 1: even if you're not interested in the tent. It's kind

467
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Speaker 1: of like if you're not shopping for a car. If

468
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Speaker 1: I could get you on the lot, I may get

469
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Speaker 1: you to buy a car. I think you guys ought

470
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Speaker 1: to just go and check out these many tents because

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Speaker 1: it may make you want to buy a tent. Because

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Speaker 1: I had no intention of going camping this weekend, but

473
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Speaker 1: after I saw those many tents, I'll tell you this,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm a lot closer to going camping this weekend. Not

475
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Speaker 1: this weekend, because it's going to be like seventeen degrees

476
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Speaker 1: and polar bears will roam the streets of downtown Nashville,

477
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Speaker 1: but in the near future I will. And then I

478
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Speaker 1: watched this documentary on National parks last night, and I

479
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Speaker 1: didn't know that you're allowed to camp pretty much wherever

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Speaker 1: you want to in a national park.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, guys all this to give you

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Speaker 1: some ideas for spring recreation. And then I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: right before you go, Academy Sports and Outdoors is where

485
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Speaker 1: you want to go.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: They can't protect you from the polar bears necessarily, but

488
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Speaker 1: they can keep you warm and dry at night with

489
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Speaker 1: some state of the art tents and many tents to

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Speaker 1: take pictures of, but also any kind of sporting equipment

491
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Speaker 1: you need there, any kind of fangear and accessories up

492
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Speaker 1: to and including your favorite team. Academy Sports and Outdoors

493
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Speaker 1: and if you can't get to one in person, Academy

494
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: dot Com has you hooked up at this point. Really,

495
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: there's no excuse not to make it happen. They make

496
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Speaker 1: the show happen, and so just make it happen for them.

497
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Speaker 1: In return, thank you guys so much. I get receipts

498
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Speaker 1: every single day, mailed to me, emailed to me, and

499
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Speaker 1: DM to me. So the other night we got boy,

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Speaker 1: we got some We got some feedback the other night,

501
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Speaker 1: and not the usual kind of feedback I always get

502
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Speaker 1: feedback from you guys.

503
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: And Jesse tells me what he thinks was.

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Speaker 1: Wrong with the show, and then three or four days

505
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Speaker 1: later he says, oh, by the way, I think it

506
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Speaker 1: was okay in this realm too.

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Speaker 2: But Colin, here's you a good endpoint here.

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Speaker 1: The other night we did a segment about targeting, and

509
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Speaker 1: it was right after the NC DOUBLEA released their new

510
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Speaker 1: proposals for rule changes, and they announced proposals for the

511
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Speaker 1: faking of injuries, which we didn't think addressed anything, and

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Speaker 1: they also announced a proposal about targeting. So let me

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Speaker 1: quickly remind you before I get into what I'm about

514
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Speaker 1: to talk about, tell you about the feedback I got.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what the NCAA did propose. The

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Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA proposed that there's no change to the structure

517
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Speaker 1: of the targeting rule. There's just going to be a

518
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Speaker 1: new mechanism where you can appeal a targeting that got

519
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Speaker 1: called on your player in the second half of the game.

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Speaker 1: And if the appeal is overturned, then he doesn't have

521
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Speaker 1: to sit out the first half of the next game.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all they proposed, and that hasn't really been ratified.

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Speaker 1: That's all they proposed. And so I came on this

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Speaker 1: show and I said, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Keep your proposal. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: What we really need in this sport, and what anyone

528
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Speaker 1: with common sense who's watched the game every Saturday knows

529
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Speaker 1: we need is a clear distinction between flagrant headhunting target fouls,

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Speaker 1: targeting fouls and the kind of tiki tech incidental targeting

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Speaker 1: fouls that are costing kids games for things that they

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Speaker 1: really couldn't avoid. And then I got some calls, and

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Speaker 1: I got some correspondence after that show that night and

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Speaker 1: especially the next day from some names that you guys

535
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Speaker 1: would absolutely recognize, and they said, hey, so I called

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Speaker 1: the show, or I saw the video of the show

537
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Speaker 1: floating around, and so I just wanted to give you

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Speaker 1: another perspective. And the feedback, boy, it was plentiful. So

539
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Speaker 1: here was the perspective. Essentially, it was a bunch of

540
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Speaker 1: legal ease, and it was to let me know that, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm a football fan.

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Speaker 2: Just like you, I feel the way you do. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: That was the preface. But then they wanted me and

544
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Speaker 2: all of you in turn to.

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Speaker 1: Know that it's not going to happen. They can't go

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Speaker 1: backwards on targeting. In fact, that was the phrasing from

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Speaker 1: pretty much everyone, almost like it was a talking point.

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Speaker 1: We can't be perceived as going backwards on targeting.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 1: Well, as you would imagine, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: lawyers out there frothing at the mouth. And the second

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Speaker 1: that even the slightest bit of perception is put out

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Speaker 1: there that the NCAA is backtracking or going backwards on targeting,

554
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Speaker 1: given all the higher profile concussion lawsuits in some cases

555
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Speaker 1: that we've seen in other cases that are still ongoing

556
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Speaker 1: class action and individual in nature, then they're going to pounce.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, that was what was told to me.

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Speaker 1: So then, as I told a lot of the folks

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Speaker 1: that I corresponded with, and I will reiterate on this show,

560
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Speaker 1: maybe I didn't do a good enough job up the

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Speaker 1: other night. I'm not ignorant to that. I understand that

562
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Speaker 1: that's not a mystery, that's not breaking news by any

563
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Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 2: That's why no one, including.

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Speaker 1: Myself, has ever stood in the way of targeting as

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Speaker 1: a principle, as a theory, as a rule. So no

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Speaker 1: one's looking to do away with targeting. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: now that I think about it, I think I led

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Speaker 1: the segment with this the other night. But I also

570
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Speaker 1: get the legal side of things, and I understand. We

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Speaker 1: can't just look at it, you know, we can't have

572
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Speaker 1: the game here and look at it through binoculars. Sometimes

573
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Speaker 1: you got to turn the monoculars upside down and you

574
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Speaker 1: got to view the game truly from fifty thousand feet

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Speaker 1: because you have to think long term, and you have

576
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Speaker 1: to ask yourself. Okay, I mean, are we being penny

577
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Speaker 1: wise and pound foolish?

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Speaker 2: Year?

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Speaker 1: Because if I get the changes I want today, could

580
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Speaker 1: it lead to the game's extinction ten years, fifteen to

581
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Speaker 1: twenty years down the road from actions that don't even

582
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Speaker 1: happen on a football field but in a courtroom.

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Speaker 2: I get all that. Okay, here's my follow up question.

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Speaker 1: Why does it always seem at least that this sport

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Speaker 1: has no counter when anyone even whispers the word a lawyer,

586
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Speaker 1: or anyone even whispers courtroom legal action. Because here's what

587
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Speaker 1: I want to know, and I want you to walk

588
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Speaker 1: me through this. Okay, if you guys understand this more

589
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Speaker 1: than I do. In many of you do, because I

590
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Speaker 1: know we have many in the legal community.

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Speaker 2: Who watch the show.

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Speaker 1: I just want to inspect this concept that any of

593
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Speaker 1: the proposed changes that we've suggested about structuring the targeting

594
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Speaker 1: rule differently would be going backwards and would institute college football.

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Speaker 2: Going backwards on targeting.

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Speaker 1: Because I think when you allow it to be framed

597
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Speaker 1: like that, and when you allow people to suggest that, well,

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Speaker 1: if you put a flagrant one and flagrant too, or

599
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Speaker 1: if you put flagrant versus incidental in the targeting rule

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Speaker 1: and you create tears, that's going backwards.

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Speaker 2: When you allow that.

602
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Speaker 1: To become the status quo, when that becomes your default,

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Speaker 1: you're allowing someone else to frame the conversation from the

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Speaker 1: completely wrong angle.

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Speaker 2: That's not even accurate. First off.

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Speaker 1: Secondly, in terms of pure principle, it's erroneous in nature.

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Speaker 1: Think about this. What if instead of just cowtowing to

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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: that ideology and white flagging, it said, all right, all right,

609
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: you said, lawyer, we give up. What if someone stepped

610
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: up with the know how and the degree on their

611
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: own and said, okay, well, how about we counter with this.

612
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: How about we point out all the good that the

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Speaker 1: targeting rule has done. Because I don't need to pull

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00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: up all the numbers for you. You can do the

615
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: research yourself. It's very easy to find. But year by year,

616
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: you see those targeting fouls go down, you see the

617
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Speaker 1: injury rate in college football go down, especially to the.

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Speaker 2: Head and neck area.

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Speaker 1: It's very obvious the targeting rule has accomplished what it

620
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Speaker 1: set out to accomplish.

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Speaker 2: In fact, when is the.

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Speaker 1: Last time that you really watched a player egregiously and

623
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Speaker 1: recklessly just leave his feet in pure crown lowered launch

624
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Speaker 1: mode into someone's skull.

625
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Speaker 2: It doesn't really happen anymore.

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Speaker 1: And if it does happen, it's so egregious that the

627
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: entire college football world stops on a Saturday and aims

628
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: its ire at that person and says, get them out

629
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Speaker 1: of the game. Has no business in the game that

630
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: used to be celebrated. The kind of hits that used

631
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: to be celebrated as recently as the early in mid

632
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: two thousands are now totally castigated, And it's like you

633
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: have to wave a bell in shame in the player's face,

634
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: and no one wants that changed. That's what the targeting

635
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: rule has accomplished. So before you want to talk about

636
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: any changes constituting going backwards, hey, let me ask you this.

637
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Why don't you apply that logic to COVID. What would

638
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: we do right now if we applied that logic to COVID.

639
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: Because by that logic, which tells me, if we change

640
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: targeting in any way, we're going backwards. How can you

641
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: allow fans to be in your stadiums? How were fans

642
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: allowed in college football stadiums last year? Because by your

643
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: same logic, wasn't that us going backwards on COVID? Or

644
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: could it be that we had a big problem and

645
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: we instituted policy as best we knew how? But then

646
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: once the status quote started to change, okay, then we

647
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: entered a phase two approach and a phase three approach. Well,

648
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: someone tell me in principle terms, someone tell me how

649
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Speaker 1: this is any different. We institute a targeting totally revolutionize

650
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: the way defense is played, whether you like it or not,

651
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: it did, and now we see that we've got a

652
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: new set.

653
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: Of issues that it has caused.

654
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: And so there are some common sense approaches and some

655
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: different changes and alterations we can make while keeping the

656
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: core tenants in place. And you tell me that would

657
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: be going backwards, and what other world and what other

658
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: realm does that logic apply. Now that's one aspect that

659
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: I got a problem with, But then I could still

660
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: understand at the end of the day if you and

661
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: I want to disagree on that.

662
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: But man, I was talking to Dennis Dobb.

663
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: So Dennis says, hey, I wrote an article about this

664
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: last year and I'm gonna send it to you because

665
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: check it out. I got a lot of quotes in there.

666
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: And so he emailed it to me, and it was

667
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: great because Dennis was he was jogging, so he's like

668
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: out of breath. So he said, I'm gonna send you

669
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: an article and so he sent it to me. And

670
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: that's more cardio than I got in that day. So

671
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: hats off to Dennis and sent me the article and

672
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: it was from last year and it was about a

673
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: lot of this. It's about a ten minute read if

674
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: you want to take a look at it. But there

675
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: was a quote that stood out. Now I want you

676
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: to think about the reasons that the folks I talked

677
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: to gave.

678
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: It was all legal in nature.

679
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: But Steve Shaw had another take, and I'm going to

680
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: show you a quote here in a second from Steve

681
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: Shaw that used to be the SEC head of officiating.

682
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Now he's the national coordinator for officials. And Steve Shaw

683
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: had this to say.

684
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to pull up the quote here. So Steve

685
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: Shaw has this to say.

686
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: This isn't a quote from the dnist Odd piece said,

687
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: and this is, by the way, the context here is

688
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: he's suggesting, this is what would happen if we went

689
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: with those proposals, if we had a difference in targeting fouls,

690
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: an incidental targeting foul and a flagrant targeting foul. Steve

691
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Shaw said, this is what you'd see. Officials don't want

692
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: to disqualify players. We're all human, we have learned responses.

693
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: It's not going to take long as an official to

694
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: think to yourself, well, you know what, if I put

695
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: my flag away and just penalize this guy fifteen yards,

696
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: life is easier, my grade is better, Fans won't attack me.

697
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: That's going to be the learned response. It's one of

698
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: the more pathetic quotes I've ever heard. It's what you're

699
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: essentially doing there is absolving an official from having to

700
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: actually do their job.

701
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: So what you have to be.

702
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Clear, Now, for those of you unfamiliar with officiating works.

703
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: You throw on a striped shirt and you officiate any game.

704
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: There's a set of rules. You're on the field to

705
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: enforce them, no matter how anyone feels about it. Now,

706
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: if the way people feel about it is going to

707
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: bother you, there is really only one course of action

708
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: you need to take, and it's not to soften the rules.

709
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: It's to get in the stands buy a ticket, because

710
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: at that point you're there to be a spectator. Now

711
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: you may think, oh, that sounds harsh, but that's an

712
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: insanely high standard to hold officials too.

713
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much, that's the case.

714
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: It's I don't think it's too much to ask to

715
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: hold officials to the mere standard of upholding the letter

716
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: of the law. They already do it. I mean again,

717
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: let's use this logic across the board. Now, it's only

718
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: fair we walk the logic through to a conclusion.

719
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: Why do you ever throw flags if you're scared?

720
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: If that's what's gonna happen, that's the learned response, in

721
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: the words of Steve Shaw.

722
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: If that's what's gonna happen. Why do we throw holding penalties?

723
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Anytime you penalize the home team, you're gonna get booed

724
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get criticized.

725
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: Why are we ever throwing them? You know?

726
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: So that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard,

727
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: and it's a straw man argument. If you've got a

728
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: legal situation, if you got a legal problem, then.

729
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: Just say it.

730
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: It's not like everyone in the room doesn't already understand

731
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: there's an entire legal apparatus at tie to this thing.

732
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: You don't have to tell me.

733
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: Your officials are scared to call a flagrant targeting, Like, what.

734
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Does that even accomplish? That just makes you lose credibility.

735
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: That quote from Steve Shaw made the entire thing lose

736
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: credibility in my mind. And I'll be honest, I had

737
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: not read that. I had not read that piece last year.

738
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: So when Dennis sent it to me and I saw

739
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: that quote, I said, we're throwing that one in the show.

740
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: But look that quote. The merit or lack thereof that

741
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: stands on its own.

742
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: So we can pinata that are argument to death, but

743
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: on the legal side of things.

744
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: To be clear, when people suggest that if you change this.

745
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: Thing in what you think is a common sense approach

746
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: in any way, that's going backwards. Okay, Well, if we've

747
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: started at point A and then we drove ten miles

748
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: and then what we back up, not way back up

749
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: half a mile, and we're still nine and a half

750
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: miles ahead of where we were. So, even if you

751
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: want to call that going backwards, where the game is

752
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: today as opposed to where it was light years better.

753
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: And secondly, these alterations aren't going backwards. It's just injecting

754
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: common sense into a rule right now that has no

755
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: flexibility built into it.

756
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: That's my take.

757
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Lawyers, feel free to disagree, unless you're one of these

758
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: lawyers is holding my sport hostage at the moment in

759
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: which gave shame on you. I don't think any lawyers

760
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: in our in our community do that, though they're watching

761
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: us tonight in Eatonton, Georgia. And by the way, all

762
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: of the fine citizens of Eatonton, Georgia want to be

763
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: known as Eatontonians, which makes sense because I'm from forts

764
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: In Georgia and are Fortsnians. So welcome all Eatontonians to

765
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: the show. Jupiter Florida or maybe you want to soften

766
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: the jay Jupiter, Florida. They're watching tonight, and I've got

767
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: evidence I didn't just zoom in on a map. We

768
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: have viewers tuned in and gun Barrel Texas tonight, and

769
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: that is very apropos because we are headed to the

770
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: lone star state Texas.

771
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: Mood Tracker time, I was on record. You know it.

772
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: You know it if you watch the show, I was

773
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: on a record as saying even before Quinn, viewers transferred

774
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: to Texas. Texas and Clemson, those are the two most

775
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: intriguing programs to me to watch. Those are the two

776
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: where I think that there are so many different possibilities

777
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: and they're really extreme in nature, like these are programs

778
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: where the talent roster alone makes you respect the possibility,

779
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: whether it's one percent chance or ten percent chance, fifty

780
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: percent chance, that they could really do special things. But

781
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: also it could implode spectacularly because keep in mind, the

782
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: expectation levels are higher at these places. So you win

783
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: seven games at some places, it's a miracle. The seven

784
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: games at Clemson this year, they're sounding the alarm. Well

785
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: at Texas this year, I really wonder what that number is.

786
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: But We're not here to talk necessarily about wins and

787
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: losses and projections for this year. We're here to do

788
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: the mood tracker. The mood tracker is just a temperature

789
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: of the fan base. And what are they saying inside

790
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: the fan base. Well, I think this is where perception

791
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: does not match reality. This is one of the reasons

792
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: we do the mood tracker. If you want to be

793
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: totally invested in this sport and you want to be

794
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: on the ground instead of you know, floating above the

795
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: surface with the casuals, that means you need to be

796
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: intimately familiar with this kind of stuff. Helps you embedding

797
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: down the road too, by the way, But the perception

798
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: does not match what the casual perception out there does

799
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: not match the reality as I have experienced it talking

800
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: to Texas folks all day. I was over on horns

801
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven today. I put the thread on

802
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: the board and I'll tell you what the perception of

803
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Texas fans is. You know, good and well, it's true

804
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: if you're not a Texas fan out there, the perception

805
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: of Texas fans is all right, here we go. They

806
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: got quinn Ewers. They're probably already in playoff or bust mentality. Well,

807
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: that's not the case. To the point where I didn't

808
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: have a single Texas fan talk to dozens of them today.

809
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: I didn't have a single Texas fan even mentioned the

810
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: word playoff.

811
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: Most of them are thinking, Okay, if we get to

812
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: eight wins, am I happy? Because they know, yeah, quinn

813
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: Ewers is great to have, and there are a lot

814
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: of pluses that I'm about to talk about. But man,

815
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: these folks, these folks are very, very cautious right now.

816
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: A lot of them had cautious optimism. I'll tell you

817
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: what I have.

818
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: The mood trackers set out for Texas football. I call it.

819
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: I call it the ping Win shuffle.

820
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: And what that is is when you're out on ice

821
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: but you don't really know how thick that ice is.

822
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: You don't walk, you don't full stride it, you ping

823
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: Win shuffle it. There used to be a brand of

824
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: Rock Salt back in the day, and their entire motto,

825
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: their entire slogan was walk like a pinguin.

826
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: That's how you have to walk when the footing.

827
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Is uncertain, and emotionally, that's how a lot of Texas

828
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: fans are walking into the season they're walking at a very,

829
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: very glacial pace.

830
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 2: And you know how rarely I use that word.

831
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: Now, Look, there's a lot to like here, so I'm

832
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: not trying to paint any kind of doom and gloom picture,

833
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: nor are they. It is year two, so you know

834
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: the old adage you make the most improvement year one

835
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: to year two.

836
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: Half the time, that's not true. Halftime it is.

837
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: Let's just blindly pretend it is for the sake of

838
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: Texas football.

839
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Here.

840
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: They've got plenty good enough talent on this roster to

841
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: win any game on their schedule. We say that pretty

842
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: much every year about Texas. That's no different right now.

843
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: They do have Alabama coming too town week two, so

844
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: most any conference game on their schedule.

845
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got plenty enough talent to win.

846
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: Quinn Ewers is a huge deal here, I mean quin yours.

847
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: This time last year we were up in arms that

848
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: he had abandoned the lone Star state to go to

849
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Well, we don't have to worry about that anymore.

850
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: Quinn Ewers is the quarterback at Texas. It would surprise

851
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: me greatly if he was not the starter there. Hudson

852
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: cards going to give it a good effort. I think

853
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: quinn Ewers willand up being the starter great recruiting. They

854
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 1: landed a very solid class and got a lot better

855
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: on the lines of scrimmage, at least in their recruiting

856
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: class this past cycle. More on the line of scrimmage

857
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: in a second, and listen, you gotta mention additioned by subtraction.

858
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: I keep going back to that Bo Davis rant on

859
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: the team bus, and ever since then, people realizing there's

860
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of just addition by mere subtraction.

861
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: After this last season, well it's happened. It's happened. They've

862
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: overturned a huge chunk of this roster.

863
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 1: We don't know what it means in a win lost

864
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: column scenario this year, but they've gotten better simply by

865
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: some guys just hitting the exit door. So those are

866
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: some good things. Those are reasons for fans to be optimistic.

867
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Speaker 1: Then you enter caution territory.

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00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: And these are some reasons. Why are they're cautious?

869
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: Lines of scrimmage they don't believe are where they need

870
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: to be. Yet, no Texas fan and his or her

871
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: right mind is looking at the lines of scrimmage and saying,

872
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: you know what, Bama's coming in here week two.

873
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, what do they have that we don't

874
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: on the lines of scrimmage.

875
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: No one's saying that. No Texas fans aren't watching the

876
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: playoff and saying, yeah, I really watch our guys in

877
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: burn Orange. I think we compare favorably with these playoff teams.

878
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: They know they're not there yet. That's why that recruiting

879
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: class is so important, because the first step to getting

880
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: there is to get that talent on campus. Takes a

881
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: little while longer for that line of scrimmage talent to develop,

882
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: by and large, but at least they're on the right

883
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: track to getting them in there.

884
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: Also, yes, you do have quinn Ewers.

885
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: The guy hasn't started a game at quarterback, so certainly

886
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: there is the unproven element at quarterback. But also these

887
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: are Texas fans. These folks are not new to this game.

888
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: They got bad memories, they got scars, fresh scars. Now

889
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: talking about the one where you know you PLoP your

890
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: leg up on the table. If you're Matt Hooper is saying, hey,

891
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: this is a thresher shark got me. And then you

892
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: know you're quent and you're telling stories about the USS

893
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: Indianapolis from thirty years ago.

894
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: No, those are old scars. Those are Jaws references, by

895
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: the way, Jesse old scars. No Texas has got fresh scar.

896
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: Jesse's never seen Jaws.

897
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Got a lot of thoughts coming out of my mouth

898
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: right now, Jesse, producer, Jesse just just a cinematic fawn

899
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: if you will never seen the movie Jaws. So a

900
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: lot of these phrases, a lot of these references over

901
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: his head. Did listen to a Fleetwood mac shuffle this

902
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: past week, though, So he is improving, like we hope

903
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: Texas is. But these are fresh wounds. And so these people,

904
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: even though the perception is Texas fans get suckered into

905
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: believing every year they listen, they walk up to the

906
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: ledge and they're happy to look over it and look.

907
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: They know they'd be fun. But man, these are not

908
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: people who just Thelma and Luise it over the cliff

909
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: every single year. And that's the perception, but that's not reality.

910
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: The Texas folks, I know now they got the emergency

911
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: break on or if anything, they're in reverse saying no, no,

912
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: no, no no, I want nothing to do with that cliff

913
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: right now. Maybe in time, maybe we'll grasp hands and

914
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: we'll ride over that cleaning and time, but not right now.

915
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: So they have the same approach regarding the culture, like

916
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: these people are not stupid to some of the problems

917
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: that have been the case behind the scenes there that

918
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: have famously crippled the program and their ability to grow.

919
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: And they have the same approach about the culture. I mean,

920
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: it's no mystery if you head down to old gun Barrel,

921
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Texas and you walk in a local convenience store and

922
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: you ask them, hey, what's hell Texas back, it's not

923
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: going to be too far down the road of that

924
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: conversation before someone says, our cultures kind of sucked. We

925
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: haven't gotten it right behind the scenes. We hadn't had

926
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the right man in here. We haven't had our Nick

927
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: Saban walk in the door that grabs everyone up by

928
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: the shirt and says this is the way it's going

929
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: to be. Well, they hope Steve Sarkisian's that guy. I mean,

930
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: it's not like he's quelled all the concerns around that place.

931
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: It takes more than one season. Even if sark was

932
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: the perfect candidate, it would take more than one season

933
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: to do that.

934
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: So they've been burned by bad culture too, So they're

935
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic that Sark is the guy to take care

936
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: of that. But remember when you go back to last year,

937
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: think about how Texas lost games. It's not that they

938
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: were never in the games. They were in like all

939
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: of them. And then they blew second half lead after

940
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: second half lead. And I say that to say, who

941
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: knows what even a five percent improvement would mean? For

942
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: Texas improving five to seven percent, that could mean the

943
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: difference in four games. So Texas right now, Penguin shuffle

944
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: moving forward, but very very carefully. We are going to

945
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: end the show tonight. First by thanking you. This is

946
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: not the end of the show, but I'm thanking you

947
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: for being tuned in. Make sure you like the video. Subscribe, subscribe,

948
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: subscribe podcast YouTube, all in the same subscribe please, and

949
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: thank you.

950
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: Where are my manners?

951
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: So we're going to do something we've never done to

952
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: end the show tonight. We had a question from one

953
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: of you guys, and it was a question about college football,

954
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: true enough, but it was a question about real estate. Now,

955
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: I was unaware that this had happened today before one

956
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: of you asked. But one of you asked, what are

957
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Lincoln Riley's new home. I just assumed

958
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: being moved into a hou I don't know. I don't

959
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: keep up with this stuff, but Lincoln Riley's got himself

960
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: a new home, and that's not where the story ends,

961
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: because I have good news. It's a very high price

962
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: and high profile home in southern California, and we've got

963
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: some specs on it. So if you're not watching on YouTube,

964
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: let me hit you with this. Seventeen point two million

965
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: is what he dropped for it. Now that sounds lofty,

966
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: but look they were.

967
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: Asking nineteen million.

968
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: I have it on good authority, and by good authority,

969
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean front row or front office sports on Twitter.

970
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: So he got it for a little bit of a bargain,

971
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: only seventeen point two mil ocean front property, not in Arizona,

972
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: but in Los Angeles, California. Here we go, thirteen thousand

973
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: square feet, seven bedrooms, twelve bathrooms, which, by the way,

974
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: is more than there were numbers of teams in the

975
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Big Twelve. When he left more bathrooms than teams. Saw

976
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Marcelo point that out. Five car garage, plenty of room,

977
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: got an elevator. Gonna talk about that more in a second.

978
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: Seven fireplaces, not just half a dozen. That's poverty vibes.

979
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Seven fireplaces for Lincoln Riley got a movie theater, maybe

980
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: to watch film, maybe to watch Jaws, maybe a little

981
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: bit of both.

982
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: You got your tennis court. I watched the video.

983
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: The tennis court's right there next to a very long

984
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: gated driveway.

985
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Wide in nature.

986
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: There's room for both lanes of traffic on this guy's driveway.

987
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Now you got the tennis court, of course, You've got

988
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: the putting green, the sawn of the steam room, nice

989
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: little six one hundred bottle wine room. Oh, and guesthouse.

990
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: So me and the production executives we're watching the video,

991
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: cause a lot of these high profile homes they have

992
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: actual videos, and you know, it's like a marketing video

993
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: for the house. I mean, real estate's no joke. Down

994
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: in Southern California. Some of the phrasing in that video

995
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: was just a little bit too much for me. You

996
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: got to understand, I could be a billionaire one day,

997
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: and I'm probably if I'm the coach at Southern California.

998
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm living in like a two bedroom duplex three or

999
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: four blocks from the coliseum. It's just not the way

1000
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: I spend my money. But I got no problem with

1001
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: folks who do spend their money this way. But man,

1002
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: they described in this video the upstairs the third floor

1003
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: of Lincoln Riley's estate as a place where you can

1004
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: end your day with grace and a sense of optimism.

1005
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, I'm asking you, guys, is it be for

1006
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: chicken ramen that we're eating tonight? But Lincoln Riley's got

1007
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: it going on in southern California. Now Here was some

1008
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: feedback EYED got from the staff today because I just

1009
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: look at it and I say, wow, that's a pretty house.

1010
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: But I don't pretend to be a real estate expert.

1011
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: But Jesse and Colin are in their downtime apparently one

1012
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: of their big hobbies. So Jesse, you know, he looked

1013
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: at it and he said, what's the functionality of this house?

1014
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: Because this guy's a football coach and Jesse's looking at

1015
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: the movie theater and that's great, but I mean, really,

1016
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: how much time are you spending in film? Also, if

1017
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: you're hanging out in a seventeen million dollar abode, exactly

1018
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: how eager are you to get into the office every day? Also,

1019
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: and Jesse said, this is a huge no no for

1020
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: me and my girl. We're never going to have a

1021
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: house with an elevator in it. The up keep alone,

1022
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: according to producer Jesse, just not worth the reward, the

1023
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: risk reward. It's very depreciating in nature. So that's not

1024
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: an asset that my particular staff will want in their

1025
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: mansions when they get a little bit older. Could be

1026
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: one week, could be two weeks from now. But also,

1027
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think Colin said he just wants a

1028
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: dull house. He wants his coach to have the dullest

1029
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: house in the neighborhood. He wants his coach to shine

1030
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: on set Saturdays, not Tuesday afternoon when he's walking the dog.

1031
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: He didn't want the mail man saying whoa in his neighborhood.

1032
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: He wants the mailman sitting on the forty five yard

1033
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: line cause Lincoln got him tickets going WHOA?

1034
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: Forty five to three at the half.

1035
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: Colin wants the dull house and the eclectic coach. Colin

1036
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: wants the coach that grabs the Pac twelve by the throat,

1037
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: not the southern California real estate market.

1038
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: I would argue maybe he can do both. We'll see.

1039
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: But here's the big question.

1040
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: The big question for pretty much everyone is what's the

1041
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: transportation situation right now? Because I don't know if you've heard,

1042
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: but traffic sometimes can be a little bit of a

1043
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: chore dre in southern California. Do we have access to

1044
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: a helicopter? That's a huge question. I want that for

1045
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: myself in Nashville, and I live five blocks away from

1046
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: our office, but we're downtown. We're in a tower downtown,

1047
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: so sometimes it takes me a little while to get

1048
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: over here. And I can see our office from my

1049
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: parking garage. So how's Lincoln Riley getting there? Because the

1050
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: last thing Jesse Colin and myself we agreed that we

1051
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: want is our head coach in standstill traffic on the

1052
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: four h five. We're not getting anything done there. Maybe

1053
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: talking to recruits maybe not. We're not getting anything done there.

1054
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: But that's a look at Lincoln Riley's house. I have

1055
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: never done a real estate video, and I don't know

1056
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: how many more will do unless we just go stalk

1057
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: coaches outside their homes. But Lincoln Riley happened to have

1058
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: a full promotional video of his house and had several

1059
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: pictures seventeen point two mil down from the initial asking

1060
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: price of nineteen I did look it up, and for

1061
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: the record, he had two homes in Norman and poor

1062
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, by the way, one of them still hadn't sold.

1063
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: And it's I think one point nine mills what he's

1064
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: asking for. It just not too steeve. Come on, now,

1065
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: we tok we got to offset some of this cost

1066
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: at least. Thank you guys so much for watching. Hey,

1067
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: if any of you live in a home nicer than that,

1068
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: I'd love to do a segment on it speaks and

1069
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: fix and maybe even a promotional video as well.

1070
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: We got to get out of here, Thank you so much.

1071
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Speaker 1: Subscribe, Subscribe, subscribe, that's the theme.

1072
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: And then when you've done.

1073
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Speaker 1: It, go get me Mo's phone once she's gone to

1074
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: sleep and subscribe on her phone as well.

1075
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Speaker 2: Then turn notifications off. We don't want to bother her

1076
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Speaker 2: by any stretch. Thank you though, for direct for producer Jasse,

1077
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Speaker 2: for the production executives. I'm Josh Pete. Have yourselves a

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Speaker 2: great start to your weekend, and God bless you