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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody? Emily A body Here.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode two sixty six of Hurdle,

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Speaker 3: a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect with everyone from your favorite

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Speaker 3: athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about their highest highs,

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Speaker 3: toughest moments, and everything in between. We all go through

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Speaker 3: more amped On today's guest, It's Sean Johnson East.

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Speaker 2: You know her as an Olympic gymnast.

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Speaker 3: She's also a wife, a mom, a New York Times

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Speaker 3: best selling author, and oh my gosh, I have been

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Speaker 3: looking forward to recording this episode literally since the moment

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Speaker 3: On that note, Sean opens up to me about her

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Speaker 3: Of course, we also chat about the wonderful relationship she

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Speaker 3: Sean Johnson. Many of you know her as an Olympian gymnast,

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Speaker 3: Does that ever get old? Being like she's a New

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't know how I got here, but

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Speaker 2: Did you share what you were doing with anyone? No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. And I even answering all these questions,

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Speaker 1: I was so fortunate. I was protected by an amazing coach,

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Speaker 3: But are you insinuating that you haven't worked through them

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that you haven't leaned into therapy yet?

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, it's understandable, right, And the power there is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think I'll open that door someday. I

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Speaker 3: I think it's helpful and like really refreshing to hear

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is funny because I am the first to

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Speaker 3: Not there yet, not there yet, not there yet. And

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Speaker 3: You cannot be forced upon you, because if it's forced

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Speaker 3: I've heard you recently speak about how you feel in

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So back when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: I had worked so hard for so long with a

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Speaker 1: It is it is, and it's hard like because I

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Speaker 3: And it's just this like confliction of feeling and knowing

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, Like I have OB appointments every four weeks,

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Speaker 2: You're doing so great.

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Speaker 3: I love what you said about knowing, like deep in

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Speaker 2: Has of you.

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Speaker 3: Can you talk to me about the journey to get

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Speaker 3: to that place a little bit, because I know for

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Speaker 3: certain there are so many people listening to this right

444
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Speaker 3: now that want to feel that way genuinely, I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean for people who want to feel that way.

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Speaker 1: The only way I was able to feel that way

447
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Speaker 1: was through the help of a nutritionist and psychologist. I'm

448
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Speaker 1: preaching to myself therapy, but I'm also admitted in this

449
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: interview that I'm afraid of it. So I'm aware of this.

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Speaker 1: But my nutritionist I worked with and I still talk

451
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Speaker 1: to her every once in a while when I'm like

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Speaker 1: needing help with something. But I worked with her weekly

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Speaker 1: monthly for about ten years, wow. And it was the

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Speaker 1: first probably five years where we tackled this this specific

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Speaker 1: topic of like thoughts, judgments, voices, And she always said

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Speaker 1: it was voices. And I remember every time I would

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Speaker 1: talk to her, see her a caller, she'd be like,

458
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Speaker 1: what are the voices telling you today? And no matter

459
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Speaker 1: what people say, it's how you interpret them and what

460
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Speaker 1: your brain is telling you in that moment. So she'd

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Speaker 1: I would say, like, they're telling me I'm eating too much,

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Speaker 1: or I'm not eating enough, or I can't eat carbs,

463
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: or I need to look at certain whatever it was,

464
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: they'd be telling me something, and she would work on

465
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Speaker 1: just over reiterating over and over and over. Let's work

466
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Speaker 1: on those voices, like every time you hear a bad one,

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Speaker 1: let's try to like replace the negative with positive. And

468
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Speaker 1: we just worked on being very aware of what were

469
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Speaker 1: like intruders and what was real, like what was fake

470
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: was false and real truth and like just reality yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just through a lot of like reflection of like,

472
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Speaker 1: why am I thinking this? Why are the voices telling

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Speaker 1: me this? How can I fix it? Just like that awareness,

474
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: the self awareness every day for years just slowly quieted them.

475
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: And then with my husband, once I was able to

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Speaker 1: like recognize when these voices would start creeping in again,

477
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Speaker 1: and I was able to articulate that to my husband,

478
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: he was also able to be a support system for

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Speaker 1: me and help tell me what truth was versus a

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Speaker 1: falsified opinion. And I don't know if any of that

481
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Speaker 1: made sense.

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Speaker 2: No, it totally makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're articulating the difference between attrusive intrusive thoughts

484
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Speaker 3: and figuring out what is fact and what is feeling

485
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Speaker 3: right and understanding that we are going to have thoughts,

486
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Speaker 3: but our thoughts are not us uh. And that's a

487
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: really hard hard place to get to linger in and

488
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Speaker 3: then be able to sort out the difference, especially when

489
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: the thoughts are so loud. And what I'm also hearing

490
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Speaker 3: you say here this is going back to our conversation

491
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Speaker 3: on allowing people to help you. That must have been

492
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Speaker 3: really special and kind of intimate within your relationship to

493
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Speaker 3: get to a place where you allowed him to help

494
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Speaker 3: you with something that was really a struggle point.

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Speaker 1: It was, and it was so terrifying finally telling him

496
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Speaker 1: like the full waight of it. Like I would tell

497
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Speaker 1: him little tidbits here and there of like insecurities or whatever.

498
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: But when I finally like told him every thing of

499
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: like eating disorders and how long I've struggled with it

500
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: and how I couldn't get out of bed sometimes because

501
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: I was so scared of like whatever, it was really interesting.

502
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: He's such an eager to learn person, and it was

503
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Speaker 1: interesting for me because it took so much effort for

504
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: him to understand, because he because it was such a

505
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: foreign topic to him, and he's like, what do you mean,

506
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Speaker 1: why can't you just stop, you know, or why can't

507
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: you just not listen to these voices or whatever? And

508
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: going through that journey with him of truly explaining the

509
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: kind of how crippling eating disorders and mental health issues

510
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: can be was so I don't know, freeing, because now,

511
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: like at my OBI appointment yesterday, just I was having

512
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: a down day and now my husband went with me,

513
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I'm probably going

514
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: to turn my back on the scale today just so

515
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you're known, and he was like, thank you for telling me,

516
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: and it just kind of tells him that my brain

517
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: is a little weak today and I need his support

518
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: and he totally understands it. And it's so nice.

519
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, things are showing that.

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Speaker 3: And I also think it's really exemplary of the work

521
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Speaker 3: that can go into relationships, right like saying something is

522
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: bothering me, but then also being able to illustrate the

523
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Speaker 3: true weight of that and be able to come together

524
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Speaker 3: and work on that together. It's really special that you

525
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Speaker 3: have someone in your life that like sees you in

526
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Speaker 3: this way.

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Speaker 1: It's also been really refreshing for him because I think when,

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Speaker 1: especially in a relationship, when you're willing to be that vulnerable,

529
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: which can be scary because to a certain extent, it

530
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Speaker 1: can make people feel less attractive or less you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I genuinely think that's a fear that we all have, right,

533
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: like just getting that deep with someone and letting them

534
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: truly see us and thinking that they won't like the

535
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: us that we open the door to allow them to see.

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Speaker 1: But it agreed, and that was my fear. But to

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Speaker 1: see what's come from it. When my husband was going

538
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Speaker 1: through the NFL, he struggled with like crippling anxiety and

539
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: he had never dealt with that before. And I think

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Speaker 1: it was because of me being able to open up

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Speaker 1: my vulnerability that he shared it with me day in

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Speaker 1: and day out, asking for support and help, and that

543
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Speaker 1: able to tackle together.

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Speaker 2: What would you.

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Speaker 3: Say is the upside and the downside to having such

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Speaker 1: I think the upside and the downside are the same.

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Speaker 1: That's why I was trying to like figure out how

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Speaker 1: to say it. Is it requires so much accountability spending

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Speaker 1: every waking second together. And I say that in the

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Speaker 1: sense of like, the upside of accountability is our line

607
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Speaker 1: of dialogue and communication is probably more than anybody's used to.

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Speaker 2: But in any.

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Speaker 1: Given day, I'm addressing my business partner, my husband, and

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Speaker 1: the father of my children and my friend, and if

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Speaker 1: any one of those has like a hard day, which

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00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: they all probably have a hard day on any given day,

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Speaker 1: we have to be able to communicate through it and

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Speaker 1: be like, you know what, I had a hard day

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Speaker 1: as your business partner, that does not affect me as

616
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Speaker 1: your husband, and have like working through those lines. The

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Speaker 1: upside is our communication is so strong. The downside is

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Speaker 1: that it requires so much accountability effort of being like

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Speaker 1: I didn't snap, Like I wasn't snippy with you as

620
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Speaker 1: my wife. I was snippy because we didn't agree in

621
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Speaker 1: business today. And it's just like it can take a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, understandable, totally understandable.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel excited when you have the opportunity to

624
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Speaker 3: do things solo or do you feel like a little

625
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Speaker 3: bit of something is missing.

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Speaker 1: We are both very independent people, so we love taking

627
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Speaker 1: adventures on our own. We have our own like I

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Speaker 1: have my own women's group, he has his own men's group.

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Speaker 1: We have our own solo time each like every day.

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Speaker 1: But he's my best friend in life, and even though

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Speaker 1: I like doing things solo, I still wish he was

632
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Speaker 1: always there.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's adorable, You're like, yep, I just caught myself

634
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Speaker 3: saying that when you say you have solo time every day,

635
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Speaker 3: is this something that's scheduled in.

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Speaker 2: I'm just kind of curious it is.

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Speaker 1: So we schedule workouts every day. Andrew usually works out

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Speaker 1: early in the morning, and we used to like work

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Speaker 1: out together, but we found that it was like we

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Speaker 1: each enjoyed working out by ourselves better, just like the

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Speaker 1: grunt work of it. We like being able to, like

642
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Speaker 1: mentally decompress. So Andrew works out in the morning. I

643
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Speaker 1: usually work out like mid morning, but that's always like

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Speaker 1: a you get an hour or two hours. I've got

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Speaker 1: the kids, I've got the house, and then we swap Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about how your relationship has ebbed and

647
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: flowed with your fitness, wellness workout routine since dialing it

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Speaker 3: back from being a professional athlete.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's gone through every possible peak and

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Speaker 1: valley So I went from I have done everything from

651
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Speaker 1: being like complete sloth mode, never does anything but watches

652
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Speaker 1: Netflix and each like eats pancakes.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 1: I would schedule unhealthily four workout classes a day. I

655
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Speaker 1: would go for a run on top of it, and

656
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Speaker 1: would have to like have every hour doing something physical.

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Speaker 2: To now.

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Speaker 1: I am probably not as active as I wish I was,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's just the phase of life I'm

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Speaker 1: in having two toddlers and being pregnant. But I'm definitely

661
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: like living the phase of life where everything's in moderation.

662
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: I listen to my body. Sleep is the most important

663
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: for me, and I probably work out two or three

664
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: times a week at max.

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00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what you're doing is prioritizing how you want

666
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: to feel, which is like as good as you can

667
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: within your body, and listening to what your body needs. Yes,

668
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: so these days, obviously being so far along in your pregnancy,

669
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: we're just talking about a lot more low impact kind

670
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: of stuff.

671
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: I still like throw around bar bells and stuff all

672
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: the time.

673
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: Oh. I love to hear that it's the only.

674
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: Thing that makes it feel good pregnant, which is really funny.

675
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: Going back to kind of that adjustment, period from being

676
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: a professional athlete to shifting. Now you before we're talking

677
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: about creating content, talk to me about that transition period

678
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: and how you start to dial in on what your

679
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: life would look like professionally after you took a step

680
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: away from the bar, the beam, the matt and so on.

681
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a roller coaster too, and that

682
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: took me a long time to figure out. I went

683
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: directly from a late level gymnastics in the Olympics to

684
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: kind of running the gamut of showed like stereotypical stuff.

685
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: I would do all the interviews, I would do public speaking,

686
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: I would motivational speaking, wrote a book, did all of

687
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: these things. Was very like in the limelight heavy for

688
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: a long time. Dancing with the Stars got burnt out, Yeah,

689
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, the Apprentice, whose line is it anyway?

690
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: All these different things, random things but super fun, got

691
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: burnt out of all of it, didn't work for two

692
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: years at all, met and dated my husband at the

693
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: time through those two years, and then slowly started to

694
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: rebuild myself in a different platform, a different way on

695
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: my own terms, social media, built a company, started school,

696
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: just did all of these things, and it was a

697
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: really hard transition. I felt like I tried to live

698
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: the limelight of a gymnast for so long and I

699
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: just got so tired of it, and I was like,

700
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't think this will last forever,

701
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: and I don't want it to. So I'm going to

702
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: take a leap of faith and try to build something

703
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: else and if it doesn't work, it's fine. And it

704
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: seemed to work.

705
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 3: So it's so funny, right because I think so often

706
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: when we think about pivoting or changing the plan that

707
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: maybe we had already set out for ourselves, that concept

708
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: of change is scary, but also it's this realization that

709
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: the worst thing that can happen in most cases is

710
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: the fact that we might just end up exactly where

711
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: we started.

712
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Yep. Well, and for me too, it was like it's

713
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: going full circle. It was that unlovable feeling. I was

714
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: afraid that without gymnastics, I wasn't worthy of someone, which

715
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: is silly but very common for people to feel. And

716
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: in that two year period when I had quit working

717
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: and I was like really not doing anything with my life,

718
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: I met my husband and he loved me for me

719
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: with nothing, and so he's the one that kind of

720
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: enabled that confidence to start from nothing because worst case

721
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: scenario was nothing worked and he was still around, which

722
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: was great, Which was great.

723
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: I know that you were introduced to your husband through

724
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: his brother, Yes, so he knew who you were in

725
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: terms of like Shawn Johnson the gymnast before you started dating.

726
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: He did.

727
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: He did, however, something that was very endearing about him,

728
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: and it was definitely like I think, it was definitely

729
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: a strategy, but it's also like who he is genuinely.

730
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: He didn't bring up gymnastics ever, like, never once. A

731
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: really interesting part of who I was at that time

732
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: when we started dating was every single person I met

733
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: in life, the only thing they wanted to know about

734
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: me was gymnastics, How is the Olympics? How did you whatever?

735
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: And he never once asked a question that pertained to

736
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: my gymnastics career, never mentioned the Olympics, nothing, And the

737
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: only time we would ever talk about is if I

738
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: ever brought it up. And it just made me feel

739
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: like such. It made me feel like a human and

740
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: not this piece of property for the world, I guess,

741
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: And he was the first person curious about me and

742
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: I It was just amazing.

743
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the way that your energy just lights

744
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 3: up when you talk about that time and being seen

745
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: as Sean the person, beyond Sean the Olympian, Sean the

746
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: four time medalist. On that note, getting to know Sean

747
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: the person. What would you say is the most exciting

748
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: thing for Sean right now?

749
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: My baby? I am all mom these days.

750
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: Sean.

751
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: The video of you telling your daughter about the baby

752
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 3: and your tummy is the most cute.

753
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: It's the cutest video ever. Thank you.

754
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: I live to be a mom. I love to work,

755
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: I love what I do. I love to come into

756
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: the office every day. But my baby's are my life

757
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: and just like to see them grow up and stuff.

758
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: That is the most exciting. I'm so excited for this baby.

759
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for them to join the family.

760
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: When you think about motherhood and maybe the lessons that

761
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: you learned from your own mother, is there anything in

762
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 3: particular that you're most excited to instill within your children.

763
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: My husband and I have kind of talked about this,

764
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: and I think both of our parents did such a

765
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: phenomenal job with it. We both were raised in very

766
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: different household as far as like upbringing, an income and

767
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: like everything, but we are both raised to believe we

768
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: were capable of anything and there was no limit. Like

769
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: we both were big dreamers and our parents would go

770
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: to the ends of the earth to see their dreams

771
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: come true, and I want to give that to our

772
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: children as well.

773
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: I do want to go back to the note when

774
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: we were talking about pursuing your own individual business ventures.

775
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: I know that you and I recently connected again when

776
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: we were at a Kalia event in New York, the

777
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: second time after we had the opportunity to sit down

778
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: a few years ago for an interview.

779
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: God maybe like two thousand and eighteen.

780
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: New York, time flies when you're having fun, talk to

781
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: me about being kind of at the forefront working with

782
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: Kalia and how that's been for you.

783
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: I adore Kaliyah adore. I have had the opportunity and

784
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: pleasure of working with so many companies over the years,

785
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: and I think in every phase of life, I've noticed

786
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: that very specific brands work for a very specific person.

787
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: And I was signed as the Elite Athlete, and I

788
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: was signed as the you know, the mom, and I

789
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: was signed as whatever it was. But I always had

790
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: to fit a certain kind of niche to be associated

791
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: with a brand, and I think one of the most

792
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: powerful things that I've learned for working firsthand with Clia

793
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: is that they want to celebrate women in general, and

794
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: they want their brand to like be suited to every

795
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: woman in the world. And it's so so cool because

796
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: I can go as a six month pregnant woman and

797
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: throw barbells around and Kaliah attire and feel like I'm

798
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: taking on the world. Or I can go into a

799
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: business meeting with a board and wear Khalia and feel

800
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: like a boss, and my mom wears it, and our

801
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: like manager of our company wears it, who's also like

802
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: six foot tall, and it's just it's it's been so

803
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: cool to see how much they care about catering to

804
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: all women. And it's been really special because I've never

805
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: I've really never experienced that with a company before, and it's.

806
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: Been really cool.

807
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'd be curious also, like again talking about

808
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 3: being at the forefront, being a face of something along

809
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: with of course many other women, how that feels for

810
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: you these days as you're trying to find like homeostasis

811
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: in your own body.

812
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a mother to a daughter, so it

813
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: means everything. I feel like. That's honestly the reason why

814
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: I ended up coming out and sharing like my eating

815
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: disorder stories and like everything is. I struggled so much

816
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: as a young girl because I didn't feel like I

817
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: had anybody to relate to. I feel like everybody just

818
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: kind of was naturally just who they were and they

819
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: were okay with it, and I felt alienated because I

820
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: had insecurities. And I feel like being a woman now

821
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: associated with a brand like Khalia being in the forefront

822
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: showing off clothes in my body, whether I mean I'm

823
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: getting ready to a photoshoot with Khalia seven months pregnant,

824
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: and I love that because they're so excited about it.

825
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: But it's this like embracing who you are and embracing

826
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: the moment you're in as a woman. And I think

827
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: now being a mother to a daughter, it's all that

828
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: more important to me to align myself with brands like

829
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: this and to be comfortable being at the forefront of

830
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: things because we're not all perfect. We're all going to

831
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: go through phases of life where we're insecure, But if

832
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: we can all be transparent about it, I think I'll

833
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: handle it a lot better.

834
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

835
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: For someone who's listening to this that's struggling with that,

836
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: self acceptance. You could even call it radical self acceptance,

837
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: which clearly can be really difficult at times.

838
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: What advice do you have for them?

839
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: Find a good support system. I tried to find radical

840
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: self acceptance my own, and I was not capable of

841
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: doing that. And I would even call myself pretty strong minded,

842
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: and I still needed a lot of help. So I

843
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: found confidance and like I confided in my parents and

844
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: my best friend and my husband, my nutritionists, to psychologists,

845
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: and it was having that accountability circle to kind of

846
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: keep me on point long enough that it became muscle memory,

847
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: and that when some negative thought creeped into my mind

848
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: it was foreign and not the reverse. Yeah. Yeah, I

849
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: would just say, like, confide in someone, you need someone,

850
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: you need support always.

851
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: And what I'm hearing you say also is that it

852
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: took reps right even when you were reflecting about the

853
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 3: fact that you've been working with a nutritionist for something

854
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: like ten years earlier. That is not like I met

855
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: with someone three times and I am a completely different person,

856
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 3: And there is absolutely no shame or shade to the

857
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: concept of that it will not happen overnight.

858
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: No, and it won't. And I feel like it's just

859
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: like that goes against all of culture these days, because

860
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: we live in a world that wants to fix everything immediately.

861
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: We want the fast fix too, every question we have.

862
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 1: And if you want a true fix, if you want

863
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: to heal in any in any aspect or area of

864
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: your life, it will take a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: It will take a lot of time. Sean, I'm curious.

866
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: You know, someone comes to your Instagram page right now,

867
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: they see this wife and this mom and an olympian.

868
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that

869
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: you see looking back at you these days?

870
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Oh, just someone who has stopped trying so hard. And

871
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean

872
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: it in a good way. I used to put so

873
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: much exhausted effort into making sure people had a good

874
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: thought of me, and I was doing it in all

875
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: the wrong ways. And I think when you look at

876
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: like my Instagram, I'm willing to look like a hot

877
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: mess and goof off with my husband and film it

878
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: and post it for the world to see. And I

879
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: love it. I could care less. I love the freedom

880
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: that I feel in my mind and in my body.

881
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: And that's because of the people I have around me,

882
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: and I just wish I could go back and tell

883
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: my teenage self, like, stop trying.

884
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: Some attitude really radiates from you. And again, it's a

885
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: hard place to get to. It is truly such a

886
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 3: journey to get to a place where it's like I

887
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: feel free being me entirely. It's definitely something that I'm

888
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: struggling with always.

889
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be working on it for the rest

890
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: of my life. And like I said, I'm not perfect.

891
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: I still have the hard days. I still choose willingly

892
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: to read every Instagram comment and DM.

893
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: How do you let those roll off?

894
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't and the ones that I don't I take

895
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: to my husband.

896
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: What's your strategy for when something really gets to you?

897
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: It's interesting. So the reason why I read all of

898
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: them is I'm almost protective of my followers who read comments.

899
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense, that's very interesting.

900
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: Actually, it's almost like this motherly instinct of I don't

901
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: want other people reading hurtful, hateful speech because people shouldn't

902
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: be saying it in the first place. I don't read

903
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: it to respond. I read it to like get rid

904
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: of it, and how do I, like, how do I

905
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: let it bounce off? If it's pointed towards me. I

906
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: usually can bounce it off pretty well where I'm just like,

907
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: it's fine, people are just having a bad day, get

908
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: rid of it. If people attack people that I love,

909
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: I have a hard time.

910
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

911
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: And that's usually when I go to my husband and

912
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: he's like, it's not a big deal, delete it, don't

913
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: think about it, don't read it. But we have this

914
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: motto at home, since we live on social media, that

915
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: whatever you respond to, you get more of And we

916
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: as hard as it is for me, because I would

917
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: love to clap back at people, just kind of like

918
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: we're taught in kindergarten, spread more kindness.

919
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: I absolutely love that. And then he's also like, where

920
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: do they live? And can I beat them up?

921
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: I understand. I totally get it.

922
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally get it.

923
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: Such a really beautiful perspective.

924
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: Wherever you water, the grass grows, right, So like to

925
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: focus on the good, to focus on the kindness and

926
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: only in powers it enables you to find more of

927
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 3: that in your day to day.

928
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Yes, which isn't always easy.

929
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: No, it certainly isn't. I'm so grateful that we were

930
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: able to make this time today. I know you just

931
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: mentioned a piece of advice you'd give your younger self.

932
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: But I end every episode the exact same way, asking

933
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: you to give a piece of advice to yourself during

934
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: one of your most difficult hurdle moments, arguably when you

935
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: were dealing with such a difficult conversation internal dialogue surrounding

936
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 3: the eating disorder back in two thousand and eight. Knowing

937
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: what you know now, what would you tell your younger

938
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 3: self during that hurdle moment.

939
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I get two things come to mind. I

940
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: would say, ask for help sooner. It took me getting

941
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: to a really dark place for me to ever ask

942
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: for help. And I think if we were all just

943
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: a little less stubborn and we asked for help sooner,

944
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: it would prevent a lot of things. And then in

945
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: the moment of like when I was in that dark

946
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: place and I finally asked for help and I was

947
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: trying to get better, I would say, give more to

948
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: the people who are helping you. And I mean that

949
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: in the sense of I always, even when I asked

950
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: for help, I still tried to reserve so much to

951
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: myself where I was like, oh, I can handle that.

952
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't need to tell them, or I don't need

953
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: to tell them the whole. And I think, just like

954
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: when people are truly trying to help you, unload it

955
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: all onto them. And I don't mean that like in

956
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: a disrespectful way to them, But if my daughter or

957
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: a friend ever came to me and said I need

958
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: help with this, I would want them to put all

959
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: of the weight on me because I'm walking in there

960
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: with the confidence and they build the knowledge of knowing

961
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: like I can handle this, and I want to support you,

962
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: and I know you can't handle it right now. So

963
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: just like caring, let people carry the weight for you

964
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: when you need it the most.

965
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

966
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: Wow, so powerful and again just so grateful that we

967
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: were able to get to talk to Sean the all

968
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: around person, not just Sean the gymnast. For those that

969
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: don't follow along with you just yet, although I'm sure

970
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: many of them do, how do they keep up with you?

971
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: Give us the detail Sean.

972
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: Sean Johnson or Sean Johnson East on all platforms and

973
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Speaker 1: the East Fam on YouTube on YouTube.

974
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Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a body at Hurdle pod cast

975
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 3: another Hurdle conquered.

976
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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.