WEBVTT - J Valentine Part 2 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:02.480 So the one thing I wanted to bring up that's 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.840 you know, while we while we're doing my episode, that's 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.080 important to me and something I want to bring attention 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.720 to is you know a lot of people saw it 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.760 on social media, but my brother Bob, his daughter, my 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:23.079 niece Ronnie, was shot in the road rage incident some 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.080 months back, and I wanted to make sure because a 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.200 lot of people hit me, they ask how she's doing, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.919 as they can help. So I just wanted to, you know, 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.400 bring up the fact that, you know, our family started 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.200 a foundation in her name, and you know, if people 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.280 want to, you know, donate to the foundation because we 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.360 want to start helping people also who have been in 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.760 you know, similar situations or acts of violence, different things, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.360 and we want her name, you know, to continue to ring. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:01:00.520 And you know, she survived, you know she survived good. Yeah, amazing, 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.479 but she got a long road ahead of her. And 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.720 you know, can you tell us the name of the foundation? 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.119 Yeah, So, first of all, I just want to say 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.400 to everybody because and y'all posted it. Everybody posted it 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.040 and it was literally thousands of people praying for her. 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.480 And my biggest thing is I just want everybody to 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.280 know that prayer works because she's an absolute miracle. We 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.600 got a chance to see God's hands on my own daughter, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.640 because if you're looking at in the physical she ain't 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.720 supposed to still be here. And so I just want 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.360 to say thank you to everybody like we felt it. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.800 We felt the love, we felt the prayers, and God 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:48.800 kept her. She's drinking smoothies, she's laughing, she's sitting up 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.000 on the side of the bed. She's an absolute miracle. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.240 And for everybody that prayed, God is still the God 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:56.800 of miracles. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:57.280 Thank you. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:02.560 And so yeah, we thank you so much. And her foundation, 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.800 me and her mom, Francine started her foundation and it's 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.120 called Love Ronnie Simon. And at some point me and 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.360 Je have talked about it. We want to do things 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:14.720 in her name. We want to do things in the 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:15.639 name of her foundation. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.000 Games going, let's get some kickball games. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.440 I talked to him about you were bringing our comedian friends, 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.280 our R and B friends, and we're throwing stuff and 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.400 sharing our gifts to bring awareness to to the road 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.240 rage and to violent crimes. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:31.600 You know what I mean. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.639 It ain't just for her. It's going to keep going on. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.440 My prayer is that, like he said, it's going to 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.640 give her a space to speak from when she's able 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.040 to speak. Now, this is her purpose, you know what 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.280 I'm saying, And now she can change lives. So that 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.279 would be the goal of love. Ronnie Simon. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:08.120 Tallege that we are authority at this point. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:13.639 I'm just Jay And every time I say new see it, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:19.720 look see a look, I really am black ball. I 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:20.960 didn't do nothing right. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.640 Why you hear me? 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.640 I adn't even do nothing right. I feel right. So 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:35.840 nigga Damon like, bro, you got another name? Wow? I'm like, no, nigga, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:40.120 don't have another name. I'm fucking j Newt from the Neutrone. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.600 I can't do that. I can't do that no more. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.520 I can't be that no more. So he's like, well, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.600 what's your full name? I never told anyone what my 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.120 full name was. It's like, what's your middle name? I'm 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:56.160 like some bullshit because you know his nickname is that 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.800 I'm named after a pimp. Yeah, yeah, I'm named after 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.520 a pimp. But but as a kid, you don't know that. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:02.960 You're not you don't know how that all. You know 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.280 what I mean? You ain't got the abbadeb q on 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:10.119 you you know what I'm saying, So I don't understand 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.880 what none of that means yet. I just think they 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.640 already say I'm pretty, and you want to telling them 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.520 that my name is Valentine? Right? 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:19.360 Fuck right? 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.360 Instead of fighting five niggas. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.080 I gotta fight fifty of them now. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:31.279 So I'm like, I'm like Valentine. Like, Nigga, your middle 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:40.440 name is Valentine. Nigga, that's cold nig Nigga's they can't 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.040 city niggas already, that nigga that is cowld down, can't 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:49.200 city niggas, right, Nigga, that's cold Valentine. So he just 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.560 kept saying, he kept saying it. I'm like, Noah, nigga, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.560 I'm Jay. But when he would introduce me to people, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.800 he would say, oh, this is Valentine, and then I 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.360 would come behind him and be like, no, no, no, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:06.440 it's Jay. Say but it was Valentine on my demo everything, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.920 which I didn't know that I had a demo because 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.440 I had just recorded three songs and it was just 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.720 I thought I was writing for people. But as it's 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:23.360 going around, people are asking who's the kid singing Who's Valentine? 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.560 Come to find out and lands in a couple of 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:34.760 people's you know offices. One of the offices is Electra Records. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:41.479 Sylvia wrong. So Daryl Williams, who was the head of 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.039 an R at the time, was from the Bay. He 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.560 was like, you know, flying to New York. I had 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.160 met with Daryl in La. He flew to New York 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.240 so we can meet Sylvia. And it was It was 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.440 odd because I felt like Sylvia didn't really listen to 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.599 the music. She just like me. She just saw something 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.600 in me. I didn't know that her and Damon had 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.760 already had their history m hm. So she kind of 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.479 wasn't fucking with Damon, but she had found out that 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.839 he had this kid. I don't know none of this shit. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.680 This is the music business. Learn this. Learn these things. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.880 Somebody who may be walking you in could already have 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:21.039 been history there, good or bad. And in this situation 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.160 it wasn't so great. But she loved me. So when 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.720 they walk me in, they say, you know, this is 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.520 Valentine and I'm like, nice to meet you. I'm Jay. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.360 She was like Jay, well, who's Valentine. I was like, well, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.479 I'm I'm Jay, but my middle name is Valentine. She 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.120 was like, oh, well you're Jay. Valentine. Sylvia, if you're 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:49.719 watching this, you probably don't remember, but you name me. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.080 I never knew that either. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:56.960 No, Sylvia won't name me Jay Valentine. Wow, thank you, 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:02.240 And fast forward. The deal don't work out because we 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.080 just got too much shit going on. It's too much history, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.880 it's all these things. That deal doesn't work and I'm like, 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:13.360 all right, well, really I just wanted to write songs anyway, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.560 and the songs that I have from that deal, nothing 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.080 ever came out. We didn't put out a single, we 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.760 put out anything. The songs that I had from that deal. Now, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.480 I'm a professional songwriter because I've been writing. And before that, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.840 we had landed a record on Kevon Edmonds on Coco 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.280 from s WV, so we had two placements. The Cavon 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.080 album goes go. I still don't have my plaque, but 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.000 I went through a thing with plaques where I just 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:42.680 never I should probably order. But that deal deal comes 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.760 and goes, but it enables me to have these ten songs. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:50.640 I had, like ten that I wrote, and I took 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.760 that to the same lady who was the assistant at 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:59.040 MCA Records, and I played her my ten songs and 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:05.160 she gave me a publishing dear so kids publishing deal. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.080 I go in there, and what the publishing deal did 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.320 for me is put me in a position where I 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.840 didn't have to go get a job a nine to five, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.000 and I didn't have to sell drugs anymore because I'd 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.600 had my record deal and I ran through that money 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.520 wasn't no real money. And then my publishing deal wasn't 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.720 no real money. But I think my record deal, my 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:32.400 advance probably was like fifty grand, and I don't even 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.120 I'm not even sure I got my full advance. I 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:35.319 might've only gotten twenty five. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:36.280 It didn't get as full as that. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.439 Yeah, I think I got twenty five. So I got 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.000 a small set of twenty five. There I get my 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.720 publishing deal. I get another small set of twenty five 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:50.440 because my deal is worth one hundred my initial my 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.800 initial advance is twenty five. I'm supposed to get fifty 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.280 after I turned in some songs, you know that whole thing. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.480 We didn't get there, But I need like another ten 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.079 because I got survived because now I got to get 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.480 me in the We got an apartment, you know what 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.880 I mean. From my record deal. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:05.520 We moved. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.000 I finally got a bed about the biggest bed I 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.200 could find. This is when I figured out what they 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:15.440 call a California King roll around. I bought it all 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:20.200 cash from some frontisher store in Inglewood. And back then 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.360 they would give you the bed and the beds what 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.959 it called it or the box spring, the box spring 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.839 there trying not to give a niggas box breaks. This 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.000 place gave me the bed, the box spring, and the 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.320 full set. I bought it off for like twenty five 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:42.840 hundred everything plus mattress, pillow top, Yeah, satin sheets rolled around. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.560 I got busy, you know what I mean, because I 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.640 was like from this floor to this but I'm never 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.520 going back to the floor at this point, so I'm like, shit, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.400 I got to get another deal. I go do this 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.839 little bullshit as did Wanna Chapel. They gave me twenty 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.040 five thousand. I'm starting to run out of ask for 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.800 another team, and she hooked me up. So now I'm 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.760 at thirty five. During that time where I'm signed to 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.800 Warner Chapel, this thirty five thousands literally lasting me like 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.680 a year. I go from nineteen I'm going into twenty. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.760 Around twenty I start, you know, even though we get 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.960 out of the deal. Me and Damon fall out for 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.600 a hot little six months. We get back cool, were 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.800 writing and were just writing songs. He got a spot 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.199 out in north Ridge, this gated community called Running Springs 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.920 that we talked about with Little Steve, and we just 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.920 writing songs by writing songs with us, and we know 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:37.880 we got our little team. And one day Rodney Jerkins 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:43.920 and his crew pulls up these niggas rich for real. Yeah, 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.520 these niggas are rich Ridge. They have every diamond you 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:51.119 can imagine on every piece of jewelry you can imagine. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.480 This is incredible. I'm talking about the clarity. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:00.680 you can't stare at their jury. It hurts. I'm like, God, damn, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.320 He's like we went to the studio, it was piece 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.720 of boxes, yeah, and jewelry all over. I want to say, 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:13.120 who became my dear friend? God rested soul. Lashawn Daniels 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:19.160 was banging his rolex on the board because me and 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.320 him talked about it later on, because he didn't know 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:27.520 that they relexes don't tick exactly. They roll and they 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.080 stop and if you don't put it on, it'll stop. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.400 So if y'all see somebody's rolex and they're doing some 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:39.560 weird movement. It's probably not real. So Lashawan was banging 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.920 it on the He's banging it on the SSL. It's 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.840 probably like one hundred thousand dollars watch Flooded. I'm like, 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:51.040 this is access to another level. So within that same 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.520 couple of days, they just show up at Damon's house 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:59.239 to play basketball with us, and I'm like, wait. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.840 See that's what who That goes back every time we 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.800 played basketball against musicians, we are ringers. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:06.679 Yeah, me and Bob were the ringer. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.240 Because we actually really played basketball and. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.760 We were kind of like white men can't jump. We 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.880 were Woody Harrison because it's like these pretty niggas can't 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:21.600 play bad time. I got stupid bounce this nigga three 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.000 I got, I got damn handle, I got like nigga. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.760 I'm going from not going to college and playing basketball 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.680 to now being in the music business. I'm fucking niggas up. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.360 But they bring a ringer they did, and we don't 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.280 know he's a ringer because now he's their white man 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.719 can't jim. He goes by the name of Harvey Mason. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.040 We don't know this nigga played at Arizona. We don't 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:50.720 know this. Nigga played in the Final four and with 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.960 Steve Kerr, and you know what I'm saying in Bison Dayley, 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:55.800 we don't know Thise. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:56.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.640 You know this, niggas a pro. He played overseas, like, 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.079 we don't know none of these things. So but Nigga 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:01.760 and we don't care. 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.199 We don't care when I say he's hitting me with 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.760 d one and elbows. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:09.440 But it's also two of us. It's only one of him. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:10.839 Rodney and burd You can't. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.720 You can't. You can't. You can't guard both of us. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.640 You can guard one of us, but both of us. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.760 We're gonna get some ship off. So you know, long 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:27.800 story short, we beat dark Child in basketball, and you 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.880 know we was cool. Everybody kicking it. Uh Lashan on 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.160 the sideline, laughing, cracking jokes and ship with two million 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.760 dollars of jewelry on and they leave. I get a 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.400 phone call from Damon the next morning. He's like, come 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.680 by the house. I'm like, what's up, Like, Nigga, just 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.120 come back. I got somebody you know we need we 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.520 gotta sit down with. It's like, okay, I come back. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:55.079 It's the Ringer. This nigga played basketball? What are you 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.240 doing here? I don't know he's in music at all. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.800 I don't know who four Play is. I don't know 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:04.360 his daddy is Harvey Mason from the legendary jazz group 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.600 For a player, it's just a nigga who I played 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.840 basketball with, who I kind of still don't like from who. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.319 You know what I'm saying, like, like what's up? They're like, yeah, man, 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.680 you know you remember Harvey from last Night'm like, hey, all right, 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:21.280 we hoop it. This is my first thought. You're like, nah, man, Harvey, 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.280 you know, are you producing a writer? I'm like, for real? 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.680 He so, yeah, you know I was engineering and writing 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.440 with the guys and doing my thing a Dark Child 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:36.640 and blah blah blah, Like okay. Then he goes into 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:45.120 his backpack, he plugs up and he has all the sound. Shit, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:50.600 this is everything out here on the radio. This is incredible. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.560 We start working immediately. He started, you know, fucking with 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.920 some ship and you know, we're working for maybe about 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.240 working for about a week ideas, nothing is solid yet, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.000 but we vibing. We go to Claim Jumpers. There's a 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.400 Claim Jumpers. It's still there. H On uh On like 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.000 Nordoff or Lasting. One of those might be Lasting on 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.640 the corner Lasting, right what a north Fridge mall is me, 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.600 Damon and Harvey and uh we haven't we having dinner 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.240 and we're talking and Damn, it's like, bro, we need 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.520 a name because we locked in. At this point, We're like, 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.440 we're gonna, you know, we're gonna all work together. We're gonna, 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.160 we're gonna do this thing because you know, Damon, me 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.360 and Damon are been working together and now Harvey's with us. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.160 He's like, we need a name. And you know, niggas, stars, 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.560 spitball and everybody got some kind of name. This name 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.160 is all, you know, Damon coming up with like intergalactic 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.480 type ship and you know, and after he says it, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:45.680 then he does a dance move. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.280 You know what I'm saying, No. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.880 Damn it no, and Dame, it's like, Jay, what you 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.480 got You always got some something, some names, some something 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.320 that I'm like thinking, I'm looking around, I'm like and 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.040 Harvey's just kind of waiting, you know. Harvey's like waiting 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:04.600 for the waiting for the action of what you know, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.480 what we got? And I'm like, oh, I think I 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.600 got something He's like what. I'm like, we should be 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.040 the underdogs, and they're like the underdogs. I'm like, yeah, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.880 everybody loves the underdog. They're like, okay, I said, but nah. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.520 And you know this because you know I'm idea overload. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.360 I always have an extended reason too, because I got 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.080 to make sure you're rolling with me. And I'm like no, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:34.600 because Damon, you come from up under babyface Harvey, you 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.160 come from up under Rodney, and Damon, I come from 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.400 up under yours, under your tutelage. I worked with you. 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:46.240 We're the underdogs. Everybody's rooting for us. Damn. Like, Nigga, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.680 I'm getting this motherfuck spray painted T shirt tomorrow. We 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:51.840 get those for niggas who die. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.760 You know, it's like a hood ship that niggas get 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:56.320 when you die. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.880 Everybody, everybody get the R E P. Little pistol, a starter, right, 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.720 you know what I mean? But the fuck you're gonna 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.040 get the underdog shirt. Damn it got undog shirt. You 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.440 started getting underdogs right painted, all this air Force ones 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.080 doing it. You're doing everything the most. We become the underdogs. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.800 They come up with a track that motherfucker starts with 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:24.280 D and I'm like, this shit is crazy. But as 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:33.000 we're doing this, we're also forming the partnership, and kids 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.679 pay attention to this part. I wanted to be a 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:43.679 full partner, but I wasn't paying for anything. I was 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:48.720 purely sweat equity, meaning my hard work was my payment. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.040 I wasn't paying for studio. I wasn't paying to get 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:57.280 the name trademarked sweat equity. They didn't want to make 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:02.600 me equal partner. And I'm also nineteen and but I 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.520 don't even got the money to put into it. But 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.639 I know I got sauce, got sauce. But I you know, 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.359 in my mind, I'm a niggas. It's us three, Like 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.680 right now, if we're gonna start something, we're gonna split 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.119 it thirty three and a third. He's like, nah, Champ, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:22.679 So what are we gonna do? Buddy? Is You're like, 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.679 you're a Lashan And I'm thinking abo myself. Lashan's you know, 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.479 and I don't know his business, but I don't think 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:33.080 Lashaw is a partner at Dark Child. So I'm like, wait, like, yeah, 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.199 you'll make money off vocal production. You'll make money, you 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.920 know as a writer, you'll sing on stuff, so you 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.000 get you know, you get your you know, neighboring rights 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.919 and you know the background vocals. You'll make money, but 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:52.480 you you know, you're not our partner. And I'm skipping 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.200 some steps because I like them girls happening. That the 0:18:54.240 --> 0:19:00.320 whole thing at that time. But I ended up writing 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.280 I like them girls, and I left and I didn't write. 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.639 I might have written a couple more songs, but that 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.480 was the record that I wrote. Help placed because I 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.840 got that record place. Shakie Stewart called me. I got 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.800 that record placed initially, and then it ended up getting 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.040 on because you know, we told I told the story 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.399 to Tyresse about how it wasn't for him, it was 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.240 for Usher in the beginning, and Brandy ended up placing 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:26.760 it on tyres because we were trying to get some 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:31.320 Brandy cuts too. And after they didn't want to make 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.919 me a partner, I told him I was out. I 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.600 was out, and you know, I helped found it with them. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.720 I you know, made up the name. But when I 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.040 look back on it now, and they at one point 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.520 they were my fuel. They were my fuel. They were like, 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.960 I'm ana fuck them niggas up. I'm gonna become Yeah, 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:56.640 but I didn't fully understand the full business of how 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.199 this shit really goes of how when you come to 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:03.800 the table, what all do you bring in relationships and 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.959 business and anything like, what makes us partner with you? 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:13.520 What makes us give you that full percentage? So you know, 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:19.040 I walked away. I went around the corner. I worked 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:25.280 with Way Robson, and I wrote for in Sync in 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:29.040 a matter of two weeks of me leaving the underdogs 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:30.080 in Sync. 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.359 Dang, I was only a two week period. 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:40.840 Yeah, and I was a millionaire. I got cracking. It 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:45.480 didn't happen that fast my money coming. But that record 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:50.239 made me a millionaire because what it also did is 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.720 it made me and Wade sought after producer writers together 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.600 because we were locked in together. And you know, now 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:03.479 we're charging fifty thousand a record, and we're working on 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:08.720 the Dream, not the Dream, but the group dreamt that 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.439 puff hat. Yeah, and now we're working on Christina Vidal, 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.560 who was she was on Nickelodeon and had record. We're 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.919 working on her project. I remember they gave us, like 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.000 I want to say, they gave us like a quarter 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:24.000 million dollars to work on her album. Like we was cracking, 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:26.679 like me and me and me and Wade Cracking. We 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:32.639 just were writing and now it's time to renegotiate. Remember 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:36.040 that thirty five thousand. Yeah, it's gonna be different. Yeah, 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:40.400 because I got tyres. I like them girls and in sync. 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.880 Just so, one point three million records in the first 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:49.679 first week. Pay me my mother fucking money. Talk to 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.239 me nice, or don't talk to me at all. Talk 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.480 to me at all, whisper. So they didn't talk to 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.119 me at all. They let me out. They couldn't afford me, 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.760 They couldn't afford you. Yeah, I paid back my deal 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.280 ten times over what they gave me. What do I do? 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.160 I go across the street. I'm good for going across 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:13.720 the street. I went from Warner Chapel to famous music. 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:18.000 Shout out to my guy, Brian Postell and Ira Jaffey. 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:20.960 Ira Jaffi was the first person to offer h me 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.560 an executive job as a writer there, and I turned 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.240 it down. Are we both? I turned it down and 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.280 then he said, yeah, it wouldn't make sense. But he 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.000 offered me an executive job when Brian Postel left, and 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.800 they gave me a boatload of money. Heavy bag, and 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.719 I want an escalade. I want an escalator and I 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.639 want a GS four hundred. And now we're getting to 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.640 the ship, right, and we we cracking and me and 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.520 Bob got our We got our condo in Charmanoak, we 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.680 got the bachelor pad. We cracking and then not only 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.160 do I have that, now I got a studio house 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.480 now too. Yeah, remember you came to north Ridge. 0:22:57.880 --> 0:22:59.680 Wait how old are you now? 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.200 For these years are going by, I'm skipping. And then 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.480 obviously we meet because as I get cracking, Damon and 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:12.080 Harvey is like, wait this nigga, this nigga did become something. Hey, man, 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:17.080 come back. Whatever you need, are your your percentages, your 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.760 your things are good. And that's when I came back. 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.480 And that's when you and I met, and we all 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:23.840 met and we became brothers from the first day when 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:24.720 we play basketball. 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.440 That that story is hilarious because they were like, yeah, Tank, 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:34.680 Tank really hoop And again we're always the ringer. So 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.080 I'm like, there's no way this nigga's a musician. There's 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:41.359 no possible way. They're like tank dunks like that, you 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.760 know what I said, And we and it was a 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:44.560 whole thing. 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.080 Because now I think you had become Damon's Ringer now 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.440 because Damon can't really hoop with that little ugly ass 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:53.480 jump shot, right, So you're the new Ringer. So he's like, oh, 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.360 I got something. When we went to the twenty four 0:23:55.760 --> 0:24:00.800 twenty four in Hollywood, and obviously we came brothers from 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.280 that point on, and you know, I didn't like the 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.719 way the business was going, and we talked about that 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.359 on the you know, the the Eric episode, and you know, 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.439 once they kicked a little Ronnie out, I'm like, nah, man, 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.639 y'all can't y'all can't kick a little Rounnie out. And 0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.479 if y'all kicking him out, I'm out. You know, I 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.399 got a bank account full of money, and I'm like, 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:28.280 I ain't got no kids. I'm gonna sign somebody. When 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.520 signed the artist out of my neighborhood, young dude named 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:38.919 Bailey and now with City Boys Music the label, it 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:44.480 was myself, my brother ron Uh Big Dan Mail, Steve 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:53.480 big cousin. Jeff was our producer, Reggie Jacob. 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:58.040 I gotta shout shout the roller. 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.520 You got staff. I got a nigga, we nigga. I 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.159 bought the fifteen passager van. I wrapped it with the 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.200 vehicle rap put the City boys music on it. You 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.480 know what I mean? We out there, I blew it all. 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.800 Chief he got a money sign on his forehead. What 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:15.960 can we get this nigga who's coming from a major 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:21.720 label music business to spend. And as we're doing this 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:28.520 stuff with Bailey, our mother passes away. And I had 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:30.240 been going back and forth. I was kind of, you know, 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:31.760 back and forth city of the city. And when she 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:35.399 passed away, I was just like, I need to move back. 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.000 So I moved back to San Francisco. I sold, I 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:44.160 sold my car. I bought like a twenty two hundred 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.320 dollars bucket because I didn't want to be a money sign. 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.400 It was a stick shift that a pocket full of money. 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:51.600 Man. 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.760 But I'm like, I want to kind of get immersed 0:25:54.760 --> 0:26:10.399 into what's going on in the bay. But I'm also spinning. 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.240 But I'm pulling up in the bucket. But I'm spending. 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:16.240 I'm doing mixer meetings. This is my college. This is 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:21.000 me really getting my feet wet on the music business side, 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:25.600 because I'm paying for everything. Photo shoot, the vehicle wrapped, 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:30.720 the studio time, the setting up a studio, the paying 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.679 for overnight spins that I don't know are overnight spins 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.119 because they're lying to me. And now I want to 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.439 hurt somebody because they told me I would get ten 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:38.960 spins a week. They didn't tell me they would play 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.360 at two thirty in the morning. But you know, I'm 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:45.840 learning the business. Yeah, your niggas was fuck niggas for 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.560 that man, that's galishya. I could have told me when 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:53.479 I was gonna get my spins, but whatever, and I'm losing. 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:59.439 I'm losing, and I realized why I lost because I 0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.920 didn't do what the people wanted. I did what we 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.920 wanted initially, and we just wanted to do the music 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.119 we wanted to do with the artists, where Bailey Bailey 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:09.639 had his mindset of what he wanted to do, and 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.679 I'm rolling with him and we're trying to get a 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.320 record on radio that says fuck your couch mm hmm 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:25.320 early fuck your couch nigga too far. The record was hard, ship, 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:33.840 the ship was hard, and it didn't work. And as 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.879 I'm losing money, we started working on a mixtape and 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.600 I used to do a character. Instead of it being 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:46.440 Ron Eisley, he was called Ron Heife mm hmm, where 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:51.000 I would sing songs, but in a Bay Area way, 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:57.080 but I would like jokingly sing them. I would be 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.879 singing that type of ship on our mixtapes, just fucking 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.520 talking about being Ron Hypey, which ultimately we end up 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.680 naming our brother Ron Heifey because his name was Ron, 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.919 but it was a take from Ron Eisley and then 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.520 doing that like people start, you know, we had a 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.200 little mixtape of you know, and the DJs out there 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.159 will be like, man, what's that, Ron Heifey? Should you 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.800 be doing funny than? Motherfucker? And I go up to 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.679 the radio station to see Big Vin and he's like, 0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.800 it's this record man, that just came out. It's going crazy. 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:31.000 He's like, man, it's goofy though it got like this 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.439 weird ass sound on it. These vocals is weird. And 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.040 I'm like, playing for me and he like he pushed 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:38.239 the thing. 0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.760 It's like, oh it's brom She got me. 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.120 And t Pey was singing with the auto tune of 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.320 and I'm like, and I listened to it one time 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.040 and I'm like, oh, nigga, I flipped that already. I'm 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.720 fucking around. We playing dominoes. I used to go up 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.360 to go up to the radio station and just play 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.160 Dominoes with Big Vin. I'm like, already flipped that. He's like, 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:00.640 what do you mean you flipped it. He's like, how 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:07.320 I go. I'm like, go, dumb dog I heipee. And 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.560 he's like, Nigga for real. I'm like, yeah, Nigga, got 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.200 about white tea. Yeah, my Nigga. I'm freestyling. He like, 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.719 where's I'm like, oh, it's at the studio. I'm lying 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.120 my ass off. I have no song. I'm making up 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.720 parts and I'm getting out of there before you ask 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.880 for more. Right. So he's like, Nigga, you bring that. 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.080 I'm playing that tonight. I was like, nig I've been 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:34.280 fighting for radio spins on Bailey. I'm like, wait, you 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.360 just told me you're gonna play something, Nigga. I'll be 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.960 back in thirty minutes. Go to the house. At this time, 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:47.920 I'm staying. I'm staying in my cousin's basement and I 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.160 have a studio setup in the bottom of it. In 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.600 the bottom of the house. I know how to work protus. 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.560 I mean you know that I was your engineer for 0:29:55.560 --> 0:30:00.680 a long time, and before we had Danny and Ruben, right, 0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.920 I was I was in between next week because Zany 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:08.000 actually helped me and taught me. But I know how 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:09.600 to engineer. At the time, I know how to use 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.720 I had an inbox, remember the inbox and the little 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:17.160 speakers that came with the little white speakers in audios 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.800 with the little you know, little blue knobs had that. 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:24.880 So I'm flipping records down there. But I'm like, I'm 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.360 not gonna use auto tune on it. I'm just gonna 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.160 sing it. But I was bushing, but I was singing 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.400 as Ron Haiphi, So I don't sing that record seriously. 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.640 And I'm playing his on playback and from every lyric, 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.680 I'm just switching it to a Barrier lyric. I'm in 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.760 the club feeling dishes, looking for a couple of little bitches, you. 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:43.280 Know what I'm saying. 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.280 I'm in the middle like money, you know what I'm 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.280 saying with some college girls that's acting like they won't 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.320 me that this is my lyrics, right, so I go 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.200 knock it out. At the time, they were having a 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.160 mix of meeting. It's called the Longman Convention. His name 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.560 was Greg Lolly. He had this convention of all so 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:06.000 everybody's just happenstance Bro everybody's in town for this mixing meeting. 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.280 I take the record to the Strip Club. Bond is 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.120 in the Strip Club. My guy D from d in 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:19.600 Shadow is in there, and I hand the CD. I 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:23.160 got on some fucking cargo shorts. I had the cargo. 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:24.800 I mean I had the CD in my cargo shorts. 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.440 I had him the CD. Nigga push play and obviously 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.680 you know when that song first starts, it's only starts 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.000 with vocals, but the girls knew I'm sprung because it 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.560 was cracking. But when he pushes for the vocals, he 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.240 goes good dump and they're like looking around. These are 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:46.400 the strippers they're looking around or the exotic dance. I'm sorry, ladies, 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:51.800 they're looking around and Nigga they start popping it. 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.040 I'm like, oh. 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:59.440 Shit, we got the DJ, and we got that nigga 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.040 that I don't even don't really know that well. D. 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.160 He's like a head, He's like the radio guy. 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:05.600 Nigga. 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:11.320 This shit is a smash. I'm like, it is. It's 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.840 a joke. I'm not singing it was all one take. 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.719 Whatever I heard him say. I just sang it a 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.040 different lyric. I never went back. It's fucked up vocals 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:25.400 on that song. He's like, Nigga, I'm playing this shit 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:30.200 as soon as I get to work tomorrow. Turn your 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.600 radio on. He used to control Top Top eight at 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.840 eight or to Hot six at six, whatever it was. 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.760 He plays me as the last song. By the end 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:47.520 of that day, it was the number one song. It's crazy. 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.000 The phone lines lit the fuck up. Nobody knows who 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.600 Jay Valentine is, though, I'm still j NEWT to niggas 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.240 in San Francisco. So he's like, yeah, I got this record, 0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.720 Jay Valentine. Everybody thinks I'm Spanish. I don't know why. 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.640 I don't know if Valentine has a thing on it 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.800 or something, but they all think I'm spared. Valentine is 0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.680 a thing that I was so but I'm Jay Valentine right, 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.440 and they're like, you know, nobody knows what it is. 0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.880 So I'm like he's calling me. Like the next day, 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.680 he's like, Nigga, the phone lines won't stop going off. 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.560 I can't even play t Payne's version no more. The 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.080 next day. This is at this point, it's like the 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.240 hottest record in the Bay. His new record is and 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.400 it's brand new though, but it's like it's burning the 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.720 clubs up, it's burning the streets, the radio, everything. My 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:37.520 record completely stops it. But I understand the music business 0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.240 at the time. I never register my song, and I 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.040 did that purposely so he would get every spin that 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.800 I got. Ye it's his song. So when they go 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:52.080 to cease and desist me, they're like, wait, but it's 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:56.560 not registered. I'm like, nah my nig At the time, 0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:01.680 Charles Kelly, it's LinkedIn, Chuck Chuck is linked in. The 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.040 T Pain puts me on the phone with T Pain. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.440 He're like, nigga, you know how you talking. I'm like, 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:07.920 what's up? 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:08.080 Man? 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:12.520 Like you stole my ship. So I'm like, yeah, dog, 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.840 I stole your record. Bro, like I love it, like 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.920 for real. He's like, Nigga, that's how I got on. 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.799 I stole a CON's record. He said, nigga, do your thing. 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:23.799 I said, bro, they I said, jib is trying to 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.600 see some desist me. I told them, niggas, they can't 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:27.279 seiz some this shit. 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:27.880 It's nothing. 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.880 I'm like, oh, this is a real nigga. He's like, 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:32.200 and I want to have a sing off. I said, 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.480 you don't want that. I said. I was walking around 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.960 in that song pain. He's like, nigga were having a 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.120 sing off nigga, right, So we we're just cracking jokes 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.920 on the phone, he said, But when I come back 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.520 to the bay, I'm stealing my ship back. Comes back 0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.840 to the bay, he only sings, go dumb, stole his 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.960 ship back, right, He sings my version right. The whole 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:57.319 shit killed it great nigga man, and it starts a 0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:02.160 bidding war. Don't even have no demo. I have nothing. 0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.440 I got a song, and I got some songs I 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.959 wrote for other people. Once again, because I wasn't trying 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.960 to be an artist. I only did this ship one 0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.880 because the money was getting low and it just happened 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:19.200 on luck. I got it all back, chief, I got 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.440 it all back. I went and set with everybody. Everybody's 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.759 offering the ultimate bag. I'm like, oh, I'm about to 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.120 be rich rich now. 0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.640 The song is going crazy, and the song is going crazy, 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:31.600 and Bobby back too. 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:38.280 And I'm doing only five thousand to perform one song. 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:44.960 I'm doing three or four of those easy going nuts. 0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.919 I'm driving from San Jose to Oakland to uh back 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:55.359 to San Francisco, back to fucking sebastopool of our Mill 0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:59.080 Valley somewhere across that bridge. I'm crossing every bridge we 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:04.560 have in the Bay Area every weekend, multiple nights. 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:08.880 I'm kidding, you know, the bad is small. This nigga 0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:09.760 was like a king. 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.000 No no, So then what do I call myself? The 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.719 King of r and ba? Yeah? Yeah, I want all 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.200 of the smoke because at this point I'm the only 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.040 nigga singing too. Everybody else rapping. We got you know, 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.920 I become what they do know me as I was 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.279 the video ho fora keisha, so that's what they knew 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:29.480 me as. And that's when I had to cut my 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.080 braids when I move home, because I'm like, I got 0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.880 tired of girls running up on me talking about why 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:37.279 I do keisha like that. Forty used to have his 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:41.600 club called the Ambassador's Lounge. It was the most ratchet shit. 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.440 It used to get shot up all the time. I'm sorry, Forty, 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.880 but your shit used to get shot up. They used 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.120 to shoot it up, and it was in San Jose 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:48.960 and they would literally make you get right on the 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.640 freeway from the club. But the last straw, I think 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.680 a nigga shot it up in a winter bago and 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.120 then tried to drive off. They got caught, but that 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:02.239 was the end of that slows giving nigga. You know, listen, 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.239 when you when you into it, you into it. So 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.680 I'm getting a full bag. Everybody's offering me a deal. 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.799 I do my deal at J Records. What I do 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.799 when I get my deal, I come back to see 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.040 all my niggas. I gotta go see t Pay because 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.319 he didn't do the season desist, So I give him 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.480 a bag. I fuck with Polo, I give him a bag. 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:31.800 Who else the Underdogs and Big D and Jim Johnson 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.040 And this is when I meet Static, and me and 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.759 Static become really close friends. And he wrote me a 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.719 record called Get with This Pimp. Mm hmmm. I don't 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.920 know why niggas always wanted to put me in that space, 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:48.040 but you know, he wrote me, you have no idea. 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.759 Wrought me a record called Get with This Pepper, and 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.439 we did a trade off. I gave him a record, 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.040 he gave me that record. What's the record? I gave 0:37:56.120 --> 0:38:00.200 him miracles thing. It's called Miracles and the I was 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.799 our trade off. That became my nigga. But then I'm 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.520 back at the Underdogs with my bag of money, my 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:11.160 new deal I'm shiny as ever, and I come see 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:16.680 my guys. And that's where she worked. The trouble came from. 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.879 That's where she worked. The trouble came from. And you 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.000 little Steve, Tony Dixon. 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:24.200 Eric. 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.160 Damon Harvey, everybody just was like nigga ja here because 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.400 I was you know, I was still I was an underdog, 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:32.879 you know, I mean, no matter what if I left 0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.560 or not, I was a nigga. I was an underdog. 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.800 So we did those records, and I should have been with. 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.960 You, and. 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.520 I had this time. I had my chance to be 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:47.799 Ron Nut. I had my chance to be Ron Newt. 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:53.560 And when I became Ron Newts, I was rushing because 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.680 I felt like they were slowing up my past, my path. 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.360 They they weren't moving fast enough. We had some internal 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.760 shit with marketing and different people, and I had leaked. 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.319 You know that I leaked. She worked his trouble. No, 0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:09.840 I didn't know that. 0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.719 Yeah, you gotta tell him this though, too, Tank When 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.000 I say they spent a bag on this niggas record 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:23.040 though he worked with everybody oh and drag, Yeah, yeah, bro. 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:28.160 The sessions we was in was insane. It was they 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.640 had to spend two million dollars. I mean it was bro. 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.200 He had everybody that was a name on that record. 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.920 Yeah, I did, like Larry Jackson, my guy, my brother, 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:44.520 Larry set it out for me. But Larry didn't know 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:49.360 that they were against him and ultimately against me, because 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.239 Larry was my same age. We were the same age 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.600 at the label at the time. I'm twenty five twenty four, 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.480 he's twenty five to twenty four. They're like, young punk 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.840 and this your first signing. Nah, we're not really rolling 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.120 with that, nigga. And I started to pick up on 0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.480 that and I'm yo, bro, they not like, why did not? 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.120 This record is going crazy? Like she Wrot the troubles rocking, 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:13.600 you know what I'm saying. I'm like, they're not fucking 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.440 with me, bro like. And then I get on the 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.560 phone with, you know, with some of the team at 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.160 the label, and I could just hear it in their 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:25.320 tone like, oh, this is bad. And at the time, 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.399 Deuce is on the way, my son is on the way, 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:36.160 and I'm in that mode. I got my first kid 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.200 on the way. You niggas is playing with my money, 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.440 y'all asking me not to do as many shows no 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.400 more because it's not the same time as it is 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.600 now where they want you to. They're like, oh, we 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.319 just want you an album mode, we want you doing this. 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.680 I'm like, Nigga, I went from getting these bags every 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.719 weekend and y'all slowing shit up because it wasn't immediate. 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:58.799 So I leaked the record and shit goes crazy. But 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.800 what I don't realize is me e king the record 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:05.000 made people in the building look bad. So now it's 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:10.920 another sword thrown at me, like this nigga and he 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.520 think this and we don't like his attitude. Man, But 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:21.279 I had an amazing deal. Shout out to Tim Mandelbaumb. 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.960 Tim Mandelbaum was my lawyer. Tim Mandelbaum set me up 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.400 a deal. It was called a two put and in 0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.520 this deal, they had to guarantee me two albums and 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.359 if they did not record the second album, they had 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:39.200 to give me the money for the second album. So 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.279 I knew. I also had a clause in my deal 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:43.600 where they was going to have to spend a certain 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.799 amount of marketing dollars by a certain amount of time, 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.840 and they were dragging their feet, so I used that 0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.759 clause to negotiate my way out of it. I was like, listen, 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.480 y'all don't want you know, y'all don't want to do this. 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.240 I told her, I said, bro, they they're not fucking 0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.080 with you, and you signed me, so they not fucking 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:06.200 with me. And you know, long story short. You know, 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:07.880 in a year's time, Larry was out. 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.520 Of there too because. 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:10.759 They wasn't fucking with him. They were trying to figure 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:12.400 out his way out of you know, his exit out 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.719 of the deal as well. But I was able to 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.399 negotiate my masters. I own my masters. So if any 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.120 of you kids want to us, look up she worked 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:26.279 the trouble, sample it. I'll clear it. I want one hundred, No, 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.040 I want I take ninety. I'll take ninety percent and 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.640 give y'all ten. But if you take the whole thing, 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.319 but I might negotiate something else. But I own it 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.120 if you guys would like to sample it. And I 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:42.000 just wanted to own me. Buying my Masters cost me 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.319 an additional half a million dollars. I got a half 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.400 a million dollars less to own myself and for me, 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.680 I didn't care what I did with it. I didn't 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.919 want nobody to own me, not no more. I didn't 0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:58.480 want to be owned. I didn't you know, I didn't 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.879 want them to be to be able to ever put 0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:05.200 anything out because they would they would have the right to, and. 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.880 You get cracking somewhere else, like, Okay, we still got 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.919 these masters, and I wasn't gonna still be a singer ship. 0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:13.600 I'm like, I just don't want them niggas to own me. 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.600 I got one out, so I brought myself out. They 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:19.359 still had to give me an additional bag. I still 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:24.520 got my other bag, but I own my masters, O 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.000 my masters. So I got out of that deal. And 0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:29.719 then we started song Dynasty. 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:34.919 Hey, we went on and we went on our run. 0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.160 It's when the big Bucks. It was about a year 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.399 or so in between, you know, until we started song 0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:46.239 US three obviously in our guy text h and we 0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.839 got rolling. Man, that was the best time in my life. Guys. 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.640 I want you guys to know that we have absolutely 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.600 like because again I'll say all the other times, no 0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:58.560 one paid me any money. Durell and j maytrade and 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.719 I appreciate you guys. Love deal. 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:08.200 I too started before the Underdogs, and I didn't get 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.680 one penny, not one And we did the whole record 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.960 that got his his his record deal, and I didn't 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.120 get a penny, but I was doing some stuff and 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:19.760 all the real baps over there. 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.799 He said, Hey, Bobby, just come on, man, just come 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:23.920 come right with me. 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.759 Man. And the first record that we wrote was uh 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.560 under what was the first record we worked together? And 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:36.320 we got nominated, and then him and the Valentine started 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.600 putting their minds together. Next thing, you know, we got 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:42.000 a studio on Recita. We got everybody coming through. That 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.640 thing was racking. 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.319 I was god a little bit of money then, you 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:48.520 know what. 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.120 I'm saying, And they looked they bought him off the shelf, 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.040 and the rest is history. Champ, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:56.799 And so I never got to tell you what this 0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.360 guy negotiated my deal and he didn't ask for one. Henny, 0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.600 And he's one of the only guys in the music 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:04.600 business that I can say if he tells you he's 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.800 gonna do something, he does it. I had an independent record. 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.759 He said, I'm I'm a producer when we first met, 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.400 I'm a producer. Record on you. We actually used Jamie 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.640 Fox's studio and he produced a song on me for nothing. 0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.320 There aren't guys like that in the business that do 0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.560 you know what I mean? And then when we got 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.480 to he said, Bobby, I'm gonna help you eat. That's 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.239 the one thing about Darrel Batch's table. Everybody's gonna eat. 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:27.640 Everybody eat, everybody's gonna eat. 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.480 And so I never got a chance to tell you 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.439 I love you for that, bro, You know what I mean. 0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.000 I'm happy I get to tell you in front of 0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:35.839 the whole world, Chap, I love you for. 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.760 It, because everybody else talk a good talk, but there's. 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.719 No action behind it. Sure you know what I'm saying. 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.120 And so what y'all put together got a change. You know, 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.120 I got to turn into Bobby Cash. You know. Now 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.799 I'm you know what I'm saying. I got ten grand 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:49.680 in my pocket all the time. I'm walking around with 0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:55.560 my shades, you know, in the dark. You know what 0:45:55.560 --> 0:46:01.440 I'm saying in the dark, you know. And so we, 0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:04.440 like you said, we started producing everybody. We writing songs 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.440 for everybody. We we got real placements happening, we got 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.440 real checks. I got a chance to really see what 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.440 it was like. This nigga been getting it forever, but 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.280 for me, because I got twelve kids. 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:15.720 You know what I'm saying, a lot of this stuff. 0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.759 Well I got, but it feels like so I was like, God, damn, 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:19.960 why wouldn't you do that today? 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:23.920 So for me, you know what I'm saying, like it 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.200 that was, that was when it became real for me, 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.000 you know what I mean. And I was so happy 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.279 to do it with y'all and that was that was 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:32.280 an amazing time. 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:32.520 Man. 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:37.120 So, Jay, I want to take a turn because you know, 0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:42.000 I think everybody most people understand you know you as 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.600 a singer. Most people understand you as a songwriter, as 0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:51.560 a producer, but people don't really know the business side 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:57.319 of of what you do, where you actually left the 0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:03.880 creative side and went behind the wall and became a 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.359 suit as we call them, not quite a suit, but 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.960 you went into that space and became, you know what 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.520 I mean, an executive and you you became a consultant 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.719 in all of these things. I want you to tell 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:22.360 people about that experience and and and and what you learned, 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:26.120 what you gained from being on that side of the business. 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:32.480 I learned that it's it's not designed for us to 0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:39.680 get wealthy. We can get rich. They let us get rich. 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.360 But I learned that it wasn't designed that way. It 0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:44.800 was designed for us to you know, get enough money 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:49.800 to eventually need them again. Hmm. And for me, I 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:55.799 didn't like that part. I didn't like that artists didn't know. 0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.520 So now I'm part of conversations and hearing about deal 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.200 points that artists never know about, that only lawyers and 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.880 executives talk about, and we're just really part of the 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:19.200 trade off. I became the spook next to the door 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.040 who sat next to the door. I became that literally, 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:29.040 like I put on a full costumes as a suit, 0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:34.279 and I stopped being on the creative side for so 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:39.040 long that they entrusted me to now start learning all 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:42.000 of the you know, the inner working yeah, and how 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.280 the music business really works, and how what the dollar 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.120 really means in the music business and how to get 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.400 to it, and how you don't have to be famous, 0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.799 and how you don't have to have a hit record. 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.560 Just got to make the right moves, you gotta you know, 0:48:55.640 --> 0:49:01.640 have your hands in the right things. And that that 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:11.040 became my mission, is to one educate, but to also 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:15.759 be really successful on that side, so that I could 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:21.440 be some form of a you know, an ally to us, 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:26.240 because I feel like I feel like I am split 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:32.040 in two sides from the music business standpoint of I'm 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.799 half artists, I'm half businessman. It's just who I am. 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.200 It's just what I am. And sometimes I do too 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.799 much business and it stops me from being creative. But 0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:46.080 I make sure that our business is in line, and 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.839 whoever I'm in business with understands it if they want 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:52.439 to do it or not. You know, you can't force 0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.920 people to do the business right. And I've had some 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:57.480 people who didn't want to do the business right, and 0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.319 that's fine. But you know, I think that's why you 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:03.400 and I have locked in for so long, because you 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:07.960 trusted me, you trusted my business mind, and you went 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.840 to bat for me when people didn't believe that I 0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:14.080 could do that. But you knew it, you know, because 0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.320 we had you know, we had set so many times 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.759 and went over business and you understood, like, oh this 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.759 nigga knows something. He got it, you know what I mean. 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:23.239 And for me, I was just like, I'm just gonna 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.799 work my hardest and what I don't know, I'll say 0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.719 I don't know, and I'll consult with people and I'll 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.759 learn absolutely. And I've just always been willing to learn, 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:37.920 and I've never you know, I've never put up a 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.160 facade that you know I knew something that I didn't. 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:41.400 It's shit, I don't know. 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:41.680 You know. 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.319 You remember you call me about some shit, I'll be like, cheap, 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:44.239 I'll call you. 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.800 I was just I'll call you right back, call me 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:49.799 back thirty minutes later. All right, So here's why we 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.319 should do this. Now, here's the point number one, eight 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.640 and then nine and ten. Then but if we don't 0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.080 do it, then we could go back. I'm like this, nigga, 0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.799 where did you get nigga? I'm gonna figure it out. 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:00.839 Figure it out? 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.520 So what's crazy? Listening to him? 0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:03.719 Right? 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:05.640 And now, this is Jada Man. Obviously I know him 0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:08.480 as Jays the kid too, right and the nigga hated school. 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:14.200 I'm talking all the house, Jane, show up to school today. 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.160 You want to play basketball? But he don't want to 0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.000 go to school, right. And so when I listen to 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.479 him talking, right, and I'm giving him his flowers right now, 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:25.000 when I listen to him talking, and you just realize 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:27.120 how smart he is. But he is very well read. 0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:29.000 And that's what a lot of people don't know, which 0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:32.239 is crazy. Every single day, he's very well read, which 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.520 is why he's well spoken, so you get these sides 0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:37.280 of him where you're like, oh, the nigga likes getting 0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:39.319 me from the hood, you know what I'm saying. But 0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:41.040 he can also dress it up and take it to 0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.719 be an executive. Most people can't do that, you know 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.160 what I'm saying, and have a real conversation with you, 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.080 like you said, call you, give you deal points, give 0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:49.600 you know what I'm saying, Like, he been in the 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.319 game for so long, you know what I mean. And 0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.239 now he's a prodigy of business. He's a prodigy of 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:58.120 making records. He's a prodigy ass you know what I'm saying, 0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.920 like cause he again, he has the first record. So 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.680 where me and you started a little later, he started 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.799 at ten, you know what I mean. And to me, 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.440 that's his advantage. But again, it's the biggest thing that 0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:10.560 he said his whole time, I've been learning, you know 0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.120 what I'm saying. I've been learning. I've been taking it 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.040 all in, you know what I mean. And so I'm 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.440 from me to you, bro, like I just I watch 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:20.480 you and you know, I'm so proud bro, for real, No, 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.880 I want you to know that, my nigga, like because 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:24.920 the other thing is that the news have is we 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.759 all have the round new factor. So when we walking around, like, 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:30.359 what I know is that all the label people love him. 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:32.480 They love him. You know what I'm saying, from the 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.640 lawyers to the executives, to the artists, to the everyone. 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.320 I can't play golf, but I can golf. 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:39.920 You hear that. 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:40.719 I say it again. 0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:42.520 I can't play. 0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:44.759 Golf, all right, don't play golf, but I can go. 0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.440 I can go Hello, Hello, because that's where it's made at. 0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:48.319 That's what happens at. 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:48.799 So y'all. 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:50.080 I just wanted to say to you, brother, and not 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.440 even just so it's the business side, but so and 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:55.520 I want to say this to him too, like singing wise, right, 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.200 we didn't come up like you in the church. We 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.520 came up like on some boy bands. You know, just 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:03.200 be honest, boy Bend's don'b mothers now they can't really sing. Yeah, 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.040 this nigga is like the ghetto baby face. 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:08.520 This ship is so sweet. 0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:10.239 And I want to say that to him because we 0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.799 never talk about it. Bro. When I said, I love 0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:15.200 your voice, bro, like and what you've done and what 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.680 you've become and like me, like us, we got around 0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.680 niggas like you. We got around the church and men 0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:21.719 him was looking at each other like, hold on, man, 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:23.600 that's singing straight. Ship ain't gonna do it. 0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.040 We gotta figure out because we competitive. 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.400 Yeah, and so that's every time, like we'll practice till 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.319 it can till we can do it. Yeah, And we 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:36.200 got that from around to practice. Michael Jackson wrote that 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.560 for us on the on the eight by ten practice. 0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:40.279 That just makes perfect, you know what I'm saying. And 0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.160 we had already had that mindset anyway. So get back 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.239 to you, bro, But I just wanted you all the bro, 0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:48.319 all of it, even what he's done with you, bro, 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:52.520 because you know I was, I was singing background for you. Yeah. 0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:54.800 It was nasty. 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.319 It was getting nasty. I was looking at Ja, let's 0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:02.080 call it Ja. One day I said, look, Jay, I 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.680 really want to do this. He was like, yeah, niggas. 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:07.920 I said, nigga, I'm about to let everybody go. It's 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.440 just gonna be me and you and we're gonna figure 0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:11.600 this shit out from the ground up. 0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:16.000 Because again, tank, everybody want to everybody eat. Some people 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:17.279 taking advantage of that, you know what I mean, They 0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.080 take advantage of this. Now you got a good heart 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:20.640 and people take advantage. 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:26.040 So let me get with my cousins, nigga, because it 0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:30.000 was like, it's it's it's you know, you just just 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.400 run into long lost family members. You know what I'm saying. 0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:37.600 It's it's it's something in the universe. It's like these niggas. 0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:40.919 I'm related to these niggas some kind of way I 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:45.960 have to the relationships I have to be. And so 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:50.440 that right, that that that family connection was the bond 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:55.480 that made it easy, made it second nature to do business, 0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:58.120 you know what I'm saying, Because it's the trust, that's 0:54:58.120 --> 0:54:58.800 where it starts. 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:08.680 Right. So Jay, you go from child star. We didn't. 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:09.000 We didn't. 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:10.480 We didn't get to you till you sold a bike. 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:14.040 But you used to sell bikes business. I started bike business, yea, 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:21.120 selling drugs. Statute of limitations. They it's all gone. Not 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.360 a lot of not a lot of drugs. But I 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:26.719 didn't sell enough for y'all to come back. Relax, Okay, 0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:37.680 two artists, Back to songwriter hiphie, you know hiphee move 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:43.600 the hypee movement. Maybe back to artists again. Done with artists, 0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.719 then back to the business producers behind the wall as 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:51.440 an executive, then tanks manager, but before I was your manager, 0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:55.680 I was consulting. You were consulting, Yeah, I was consulting. 0:55:56.040 --> 0:56:02.879 And the consulting started with obviously helping Brian Kennedy get 0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:06.400 his his publishing deal. That was kind of like one 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.360 of my first you know, jumps into that. But then 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:13.040 when I realized I really wanted to. 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:19.839 Be in the music business, I was like, I gotta 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:25.640 fine artist. I gotta you know, and d named Love 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:30.200 Rants mm hmm, my guy, I Love Ran had a 0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:33.479 big record and at the time it wasn't it wasn't 0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.960 it was bubbling. It was bubbling in the bay and 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:41.680 it was called Up I Beat the Pussy Up Up Smash, 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.960 and it was the first listen for me. And the 0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:48.160 wildest thing is that his brother and I were high 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:51.759 school teammates until and I didn't know that at the time. 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.400 I didn't know that was his little brother until one 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.680 day we ran into each other at Deuce's Deuce's birthday. 0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:58.440 I was happening at the bowling alley our Auntie used 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.359 to own a bowling alley. Out to Diane. Also shout 0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:04.600 out to Diane because Diane took me and Bobby and. 0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:07.560 No, she she said, his life formative years. She said 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:07.960 his life. 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.080 She saved my life. 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:11.800 I love that we came one day, like, Jay, this 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.800 hood ship's over, man, come with us when we're in 0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:19.000 Diamond Heights, man ship sweet over here. 0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:24.080 It's really nice there. It was different. Do it taste 0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:30.720 different when the street? It was different? Yeah. So you know, 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:36.440 Diane was a lifesaver. She was. She was absolutely a lifesaver. 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:39.240 So she owned a bowling alley. And I was having 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:42.200 h Deuce's birthday party. I think he might have been 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:45.440 four or something, and my Tail and his family just 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:47.560 happened to be there. And he's talking to me about 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.520 his little brother in music. And I'm like, okay, you 0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.240 know niggas talk to me about music all the time. 0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.240 And he's like, no, bro, he got this record. It's 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:58.240 called Up. I'm like, it's called what? Like uh? I'm 0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:02.800 like he's like, we're talking about this at my son's 0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:06.080 birthday party. They're like, yeah, that's my little brother. I'm like, 0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.520 hell nah, Like Nigga, that's my little brother. I want 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:13.760 to connect y'all whatever. I'm like, Nigga, come on connected us. 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:19.600 I started co managing him with my Tail. We managed 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:22.000 him together. They don't have no deal, they have nothing 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:26.600 going on. I'm like, listen, bro I said, it's big, 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:29.880 but there are a couple, you know, people grabbing a 0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.040 record around the country, people just you know, kind of 0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.240 just taking the record nobody really need. So it starts 0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:39.400 to become that thing. I'm like, lo, listen, let's I'm 0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:43.160 gonna fuck all those up. I'm gonna shut every remix down. 0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:44.680 It was how I was like, we're gonna do the 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:49.520 R and B version. I said, so I'm gonna get 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.640 I'm gonna get Pleasure Pee on it. That was the 0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:54.720 first make a pe you know, Pete fresh off of 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:58.120 under y'all. Yeah, I mean he got pretty ricky. So 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:00.000 I get Pee on the record. I leave the last 0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:06.280 verse open because Rants and I am Sue who produced 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:10.640 the record. I am Sue. I left them verses open 0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:12.920 so they could do their verses. It was gonna be me, 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:20.320 them and Pleasure p right at the time. You know, 0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:24.680 through whatever they had going on, they fell out. So 0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:27.840 when I send both of them the version with me 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.200 singing the hook, actually I don't even send them the 0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:31.520 version with Pe on it. I sent it just me 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:35.160 singing a hook and my verse. It was my first 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:38.320 no no, just me singing the hook. It was supposed 0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:39.720 to be just me singing a hook with them with 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:44.440 new verses, no new artist yet or new other other artists. 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:46.200 I'm like thinking the R and B version because now 0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:49.600 was singing like you know what I mean, and Drake 0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:52.200 had I think, just came out around that time. I'm like, 0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:56.520 Nigga just singing rap shit like that vibe Nigga, we 0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:59.320 gonna kill him. And I flipped the hook to what 0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.680 it became the new version of Up with open verses. 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:06.520 Them niggas don't do their verses because they fell off. 1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:10.000 So they're like, and the song is cracking rants doing shows. 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:13.000 I'm like, I'm telling y'all, I said, man, if y'alln't 1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.040 do y'all verses, I'm putting somebody else on it. This 1:00:15.120 --> 1:00:18.920 is just like my fake threat. Niggas don't do their verses. 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:22.120 I get pleasure to Peter do a verse his verse killer. 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:26.600 Now I do a verse my verse killer. I'm like, Nigga, 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:30.040 we got some shit. I go to Vegas, I have 1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:34.880 the record, I give it to DJ Franz and friends 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:39.040 and plays it. We had a suite at the at 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:45.640 the at the Palms, the basketball. Guess who walks in 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:51.680 Tiger and Chris Brown. So my little brother, you know 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:54.600 what I'm since he was fourteen fifteen. You're like, Nigga, 1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:57.480 what's this? I said, Nigga, this record going crazy in 1:00:57.480 --> 1:00:59.960 the bay. This the R and V version with me. 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:02.520 He said, Nigga, I'm doing it tomorrow. I said, doing 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:09.880 what the song? Nigga, I got the American Music Awards rehearsal, 1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:12.520 and I'm coming to y'all studio just when we still 1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:16.000 got the studio and now we're a track record. I'm 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:20.960 thinking he lying, he know he Nigga calls me, big bro, 1:01:21.040 --> 1:01:23.360 start writing my verse for me. Just start the verse 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:28.360 off like all this Nigga's really coming. No fucking bullshit, 1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:33.120 you coming, Nigga Chris Brown verse. We hadn't done those 1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:35.920 songs like that. I mean, like Nigga, I'm like, Nigga's 1:01:35.960 --> 1:01:36.400 the king. 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:37.160 Fuck it. 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:40.480 Nigga pulls up in one of his fast cars, a 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:44.400 Lambo or something, pulls up and hop out like what 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:47.400 you got? I got part of the verse. Now I'm 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.720 coming to boot and I love that shit. We knocked 1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:53.760 that shit out in ten fifteen minutes. I'm engineering and 1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:55.720 watching the basketball game and this at the same time 1:01:55.760 --> 1:02:01.840 you're writing he knocked that shit out. I'm like, it's 1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:05.400 never about It's not gonna be the same. I call 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:08.320 both of them niggas. I say, hey, bro, Chris Brown 1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:11.800 just got on the record. They're like, what we putting 1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:19.160 it out tomorrow fast? Put that motherfucker out once again. 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:21.320 Don't register it, don't do the whole thing, because it's 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:26.600 all spinds today for them. Every label's calling, everybody wants 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:36.440 a piece of the record. Jimmy IV, Larry Jackson calls me, nephew, Yeah, yeah, 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:41.000 what's this record? Nephew, Yeah, Like that's fucking up records 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:43.560 going crazy. I said, yeah, you know, because he had 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:45.320 heard my verse, but he didn't know I was representing 1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:48.480 him too. I'm like, no, nigga, I did that to 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:50.440 boost up the attention and a knock out all of 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.880 these other remixes that are around the country. They're like, oh, nigga, 1:02:54.600 --> 1:03:00.280 when can y'all come to l A. I was like, now, nigga, go, 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.680 we take our meeting at Jimmy Ivan's house. We go 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:09.440 to the home, play him the record, play him the 1:03:09.520 --> 1:03:11.280 rest of the shit that he got. He loved it. 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:15.040 Go crazy, like, man, whatever y'all want to do. He's like, 1:03:15.040 --> 1:03:17.920 whatever y'all want to do. So at first the conversation 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:24.400 was to take once again, take those verses off and 1:03:24.440 --> 1:03:27.160 make it the R and B version mixed with the 1:03:27.240 --> 1:03:28.920 rap version, because the other version. I've been moving in 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:33.240 the streets anyway. And I'm like, nah, this is his record, man, 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:35.360 this is what I say. I'm like, nah, this is 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:38.760 his record. This is not my record. This is love 1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:45.520 Rance's record. We're doing the deal for his record. I 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:48.600 was like, all right, we want the record regardless. So 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.120 I'm like, we're gonna sign him. We're not doing a 1:03:51.160 --> 1:03:55.160 singles deal. You're getting him a full album budget. We're 1:03:55.160 --> 1:03:59.040 doing a full album. I'm not letting y'all just single 1:03:59.080 --> 1:04:02.360 deal him. We do a four hour budget, full bag 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:06.920 in his pocket. And Larry says, I got an idea. 1:04:07.680 --> 1:04:10.640 I'm gonna put fifty cent on it. I said, we're 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:17.680 out of here. We're fucking out of here with side. Yeah, 1:04:18.480 --> 1:04:20.920 yeah yeah, I said, oh my god. When you come 1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:24.360 to San Francisco. He does the video, he tries to 1:04:24.360 --> 1:04:26.040 get in the room with the with the guys to 1:04:26.160 --> 1:04:29.040 help them put they thing back together. The group the HBK. 1:04:29.840 --> 1:04:34.000 It don't work. They don't listen to him, you know. 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:38.920 And that was my first stamp into the you know, 1:04:39.000 --> 1:04:43.240 the executive side. And after that, I have an end. 1:04:43.280 --> 1:04:45.640 I'm an I'm a I'm a consultant at the label, 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:47.760 and I'm managing, and I'm doing my whole thing that 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:50.240 you know that don't fully materialize for him, but to 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:52.439 get him a big bag. And he's still making money 1:04:52.480 --> 1:04:55.000 to this day. And then one night I'm up at 1:04:55.040 --> 1:05:00.400 like three in the morning and these kids up on 1:05:00.440 --> 1:05:03.960 my YouTube because I'm I'm looking at I'm watching World 1:05:03.960 --> 1:05:06.320 Star Hip Hop, and it's this kid on there talking 1:05:06.320 --> 1:05:08.960 about his daddy and you know how, they're talking Chicago, 1:05:09.040 --> 1:05:11.920 my daddy, my daddy, my daddy, my daddy, and I'm 1:05:12.000 --> 1:05:14.520 who the fuck are you talking about? He shot at 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.760 the police and he's talking about He's talking crazy like 1:05:17.880 --> 1:05:18.440 my daddy. 1:05:18.520 --> 1:05:19.160 Cheep Keith. 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:23.680 Who the fuck is Chief Keith? So my ass nigga, 1:05:23.720 --> 1:05:26.600 I start googling, I'm start going into ship. I'm typing 1:05:26.720 --> 1:05:31.720 Chief Keith. Nothing's coming up. So now I have to 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:39.040 type yeah into the film side Keith Keith because he 1:05:39.080 --> 1:05:42.040 keeps saying it with f yeah. So I'm like, okay, okay, 1:05:42.120 --> 1:05:48.200 Keith k f k e K nigga. I'm just I'm 1:05:48.240 --> 1:05:52.280 finding it. So I find it, nigga. But they reminded 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:57.280 me of Double Rock. So I'm like, Nigga, I gotta 1:05:57.280 --> 1:06:01.680 find this kid. Actually, I got to save it in 1:06:01.720 --> 1:06:03.440 my computer and take it to Larry in the morning 1:06:03.480 --> 1:06:06.400 because I'm like, it's in the Scope records. This is 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:10.720 fifty cent, this is doctor Trey, it's Jimmy Ivan. He 1:06:10.840 --> 1:06:17.000 understands it's eminem anything dangerous. So I'm like, next morning, 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:19.760 I take the ship to Larry. He loses it. He's like, man, 1:06:21.280 --> 1:06:23.120 So we find our way to Chief Keep. We do 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:27.560 the Chief Keep deal, and I'm like, the rap world 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:29.840 ain't just it ain't for me. It was just too 1:06:29.920 --> 1:06:32.720 much going on. It was too much shit involved. I 1:06:32.720 --> 1:06:35.080 actually never made a dollar off for Chief Keep, off 1:06:35.080 --> 1:06:38.560 for getting that deal done off of a consulting an 1:06:38.680 --> 1:06:41.760 R nothing. I just you know, and I you know, 1:06:41.760 --> 1:06:43.440 I hung out with Keey for that first week and 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:46.280 I never seen him really ever again, but you know, 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:48.800 helped put him, help put the deal together, put it 1:06:48.800 --> 1:06:51.080 in place with you know, he had his uncle Roe 1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:54.200 and and dro and Peter Pan and all the you know, 1:06:54.280 --> 1:06:57.800 the guys that were working with him, and he became 1:06:57.840 --> 1:07:00.840 a fucking legend, absolutely, and it was a way for 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:02.920 me to, you know, ultimately put some numbers on the 1:07:02.920 --> 1:07:06.800 board and become, you know, this kind of this best 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:09.720 kept secret guy that had my ear to the streets 1:07:09.720 --> 1:07:13.320 because now I got two chief Keef Love rants like that, 1:07:13.360 --> 1:07:15.640 ships Cracking. And then I did that big ass record 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:19.160 with the Rebix, and then they wanted me to sing 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:23.840 and then I said no. In the height of up 1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:27.160 It's like, nah, I'm cool. I want to be a manager, 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:27.400 you know. 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:29.160 But you got to tell him. But you got to 1:07:29.200 --> 1:07:31.280 tell him this too, though, because you know, fifty came 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:33.040 to him and was like, bro, you should just take 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:34.800 the record. And he said no. 1:07:35.440 --> 1:07:36.960 I mean a lot of people, a lot of people said, 1:07:37.160 --> 1:07:37.920 but I'm saying. 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:38.760 How many people would have done that? 1:07:38.800 --> 1:07:39.000 Though? 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:42.720 I ran the record back in New York, this West 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:43.440 Coast record. 1:07:43.560 --> 1:07:47.360 How many times in a row? What's that hot station 1:07:47.440 --> 1:07:47.760 out there? 1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:48.919 New York? 1:07:49.960 --> 1:07:50.440 One of them? 1:07:51.600 --> 1:07:56.440 It back multiple times. He calls him like, hey, bro, 1:07:56.640 --> 1:08:00.160 just should just take the record. I'll sign you. He's like, no, 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:01.200 that's not my record. 1:08:03.160 --> 1:08:05.000 It wasn't my record. You know what I'm saying. And 1:08:05.120 --> 1:08:06.440 you know, it's funny because a lot of people look 1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:08.160 at those type of things like, oh, well Jay did 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:10.600 this and you grabbed that record in that record, But 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:14.880 I never registered nobody's record. I never you know, took 1:08:14.920 --> 1:08:17.040 any money out of anybody's pocket that they were supposed 1:08:17.080 --> 1:08:19.799 to get. I was just having fun with music, and 1:08:19.920 --> 1:08:21.679 especially with the love NDS thing. I knew I needed 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:24.479 to help it take you know what I mean, But 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:26.400 I did, You know, I didn't. I didn't want to, 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:29.400 you know, I didn't want to, you know, just take 1:08:29.400 --> 1:08:32.280 it further. At that time, I wanted to fully be 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:36.160 taken serious from an executive side. And you know, now 1:08:36.240 --> 1:08:40.120 you had chosen like when you choose your lane, you 1:08:40.120 --> 1:08:42.760 you're there. I'm there because we've been trying to get you, 1:08:42.800 --> 1:08:45.000 like you have plenty records where we were like this, 1:08:45.600 --> 1:08:46.599 what are we doing? 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:51.400 Naay, let's go right. 1:08:51.400 --> 1:08:53.920 But I also felt like if I do that at 1:08:53.920 --> 1:08:57.680 that time, especially with song Dynasty, who's gonna protect us? 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:00.800 Because we had tried managers, we had tried different people 1:09:00.840 --> 1:09:02.640 that were you know, involved in our business, but I 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:06.639 always felt like nobody cared about us like us. Yeah, 1:09:07.600 --> 1:09:10.439 So I had to, in a sense, sacrifice that side 1:09:10.479 --> 1:09:13.320 of my life to put us in a position to 1:09:13.400 --> 1:09:16.519 really win. And that's when I start begging you to 1:09:16.560 --> 1:09:17.120 be a manager. 1:09:18.160 --> 1:09:21.280 I'm a manager. It's like, you're not just be dropping hints. 1:09:22.120 --> 1:09:27.000 I'm like, I kind of already managed you. You're not 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:31.160 a manager, Jay, You're my friend. Okay, I didn't know 1:09:31.200 --> 1:09:33.520 that I've been dropping. 1:09:33.600 --> 1:09:36.840 For a minute. It's like, see, like I got cracked 1:09:36.840 --> 1:09:41.679 over here, baby, I know it's wrapped cracking. 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:44.240 Take me like, man, that she is cracking over there. 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:49.240 We'll bring me in. And that's and that really that 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:51.600 really set it up for me, man to you know, 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:56.240 be taken serious from a business standpoint. And I just 1:09:56.240 --> 1:10:00.559 started having more and more conversation with executives and and attention, 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:05.080 you know, from Shakie Stewart to you know, Larry Jackson 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:10.360 to Ethiopia have to Marry Him, to you know, Tubby 1:10:10.560 --> 1:10:15.280 to you know, like everybody who would sit Big John 1:10:15.400 --> 1:10:20.880 Big job. Important for me. I was just I was 1:10:20.960 --> 1:10:24.880 just listen Ira, Jeffrey, Brian Postell, like those guys were talking. 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:28.240 I would listen. I'm learning publishing and I'm learning executive. 1:10:28.520 --> 1:10:31.800 I'm learning A and R and I'm just whoever would 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:35.120 talk to me about it, Jaha, you know what I'm saying. Like, 1:10:35.160 --> 1:10:37.840 I'm just listening to all of them. And you know 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:39.760 when you you would at first, when you would just 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:41.800 take me up to Atlantic with you. And I'm listening 1:10:41.840 --> 1:10:44.639 to Mike Kaiser talk and I'm listening to a Seanna 1:10:44.800 --> 1:10:49.960 talk and you know, Juliet's talking about radio, and then 1:10:50.040 --> 1:10:52.920 Craig Kalman comes in with the weird music side and 1:10:52.920 --> 1:10:55.880 I'm like, and then Julie walks in and she don't 1:10:55.920 --> 1:10:56.919 pay me no attention. 1:10:57.880 --> 1:11:00.240 She just you know, acting like I don't exist. It's 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:01.839 all cool because. 1:11:01.640 --> 1:11:05.160 I'm learning that, Like, Okay, she know her ship, she 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:07.320 know these numbers, you know how the movie shit around, 1:11:07.320 --> 1:11:10.840 Like this is how this music business works. And I'm 1:11:10.880 --> 1:11:14.759 asking lawyers and I meet Damien Granderson and Damien's giving 1:11:14.760 --> 1:11:24.600 me game and I'm cool, noted. You know, Doug Davis, 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:30.240 I'm paying I'm paying attention, bro, Like I am paying 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:36.280 attention and as they're talking and I'm doing it for us. 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:39.840 I'm doing it so that when we get to those 1:11:39.880 --> 1:11:43.120 deal terms, I know what they're talking about and I 1:11:43.160 --> 1:11:45.080 know what to ask for because the other part is, 1:11:45.920 --> 1:11:49.519 as we learn with our guy Eric Greenspan, if you 1:11:49.560 --> 1:11:53.800 don't ask, they won't give it to you. Where are 1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:56.599 they going to give you that? Because we're going to ask. 1:11:58.160 --> 1:12:02.000 And Larry Jackson was consulting for us, Larry Jackson for us, 1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:05.360 the Almighty Larry, Yeah, I think you guys should ask 1:12:05.400 --> 1:12:07.559 for this. No, and if you just inside, if you 1:12:07.720 --> 1:12:10.000 just do this, if you just do this, and they'll 1:12:10.040 --> 1:12:13.360 let you get that. Thanks Larry, Thank you, Larry. 1:12:13.520 --> 1:12:15.600 Hey, that's why relationships are great. 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:21.479 Bro, Like for real. He came with the then when 1:12:21.520 --> 1:12:26.960 we happened and you changed our lives. Brother, when we 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:35.840 called Jay, I have something because he's my ultimate an 1:12:35.960 --> 1:12:39.960 R right is ere I'm like always his ear is. 1:12:39.880 --> 1:12:41.759 The one I lean. I'm like, Jay, I have something. 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:46.280 It's out there, but I just I need you to 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:51.000 hear it. And shout out to Cardiac my brother Cardiac. 1:12:51.080 --> 1:12:56.439 Shout out to Matt rest us Yeah, and E p 1:12:56.600 --> 1:12:59.240 l P E p l P about his producer that 1:12:59.280 --> 1:13:04.000 he had and he did rap oh and Chasing Cast absolutely. 1:13:04.320 --> 1:13:08.160 Chasing Cast said, hey man, that nigga he it he 1:13:08.240 --> 1:13:08.639 don't one. 1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:11.040 I said, can you do? R and B said hell yeah, 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:14.519 I could do R and B never done. Send me 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:18.280 the goods, nigga, and they send me them tracks. I 1:13:18.360 --> 1:13:20.200 was in Platinum Sound shout out. 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:24.200 To Jerry Wonder, Jerry Wonder, Jerry Wonder, and. 1:13:24.120 --> 1:13:27.599 It just hit me, I said, and I said, when 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:34.160 we looking at my jury, I can't think of my 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:37.840 engineer at the time. My guy uh Asian guy man 1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:39.479 man him used to go back and forth about Floyd 1:13:39.520 --> 1:13:43.160 Mayweather and pack yeall like back, no, no, out of 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:46.599 the Jerry Wonder spot, and so I look out at him. 1:13:46.640 --> 1:13:50.800 I was like, he's like this. I was like, fuck 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:53.799 is the only word that works. Broun's the only. 1:13:53.640 --> 1:13:57.200 Word right in back of my mind. I'm like, gonna 1:13:57.240 --> 1:14:02.040 kill me. Pressed it up, I said, I said, let 1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:04.080 me just send this, let me just send this to Ja. Yeah, 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:06.320 this was just your idea. 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:10.080 Yeah yeah, j called me back. I did, like, uh, 1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:13.240 it's a little bit of the verses in there, but 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:15.240 the hook was like what I really needed is is 1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:15.880 his ear on. 1:14:15.960 --> 1:14:19.080 He was like, nigga, what the fuck are you doing? 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:21.640 First I said, I said, I said, man, I just 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:25.080 I'm just doing what I feel. He said, Nigga, this 1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:27.559 ship is I don't know who gonna play this ship, 1:14:27.960 --> 1:14:33.519 but this ship jam and I said, yeah, let's go, 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:35.240 let's go. 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:39.160 We wasn't still on tables, still on tables, they believe, 1:14:39.360 --> 1:14:41.080 still on tables. 1:14:41.280 --> 1:14:48.440 He was making them calls with juliett what we're doing. 1:14:46.120 --> 1:14:51.439 Nasty Juliet and Joy. Julian and Joy was calling us 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:57.840 the nastiest niggas and just but they rocked with us, man, 1:14:57.840 --> 1:15:00.519 and they fought. They fought for us. Shout to Atlantic 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:03.599 to Atlantic Records. For sure. For sure they let us, 1:15:03.640 --> 1:15:06.120 you know, they let us rock, They let us be us. 1:15:07.200 --> 1:15:08.320 So yes, So. 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:16.040 Since then, now you've had three record deals, You've yeah, 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:20.280 you've you've had three records, You've made over a million 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:24.559 dollars writing songs, and then you get with this guy 1:15:25.400 --> 1:15:26.880 and you get your first number one record? 1:15:28.840 --> 1:15:34.479 Yeah, oh as an artist? No, as a well? Was 1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:36.760 it as a songwriter to that? Yeah? The first number 1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:38.479 one record? Yeah, not what I mean I had, Yeah, 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:39.800 I had. I mean obviously I've been on in sync 1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:43.599 in that time. Yeah, but yeah, yeah in two facets 1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:46.479 number one on the radio and yeah, no that was yeah, 1:15:46.520 --> 1:15:50.240 yeah flight out yeah yeah, And I just you got 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.040 to keep this in context, like we're from a. 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:56.559 Small place Bro. Yeah, lightning has struck this food a 1:15:56.640 --> 1:16:06.719 gazillion times and get hit and it's qrazy hard. Okay, 1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:11.080 yes he does, but Bro, but blood plays a part. 1:16:11.160 --> 1:16:11.320 Bro. 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:16.120 He found he just told you found chea key. So 1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:18.240 then the hood side comes up, you know what I'm saying, 1:16:18.400 --> 1:16:20.880 Like there's an R and B side, there's a hood side. 1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:21.639 I mean, there's just so. 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:24.840 Many fasts all of it, and a lot of successes 1:16:24.880 --> 1:16:28.320 come with it. And the backstories, like people don't know 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:30.120 this stuff. They don't know you help to find Chief 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:37.479 Keith Manage, there's other people major help major. 1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:41.000 Yeah he's healthy and hasn't asked for a penny from 1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:42.559 these guys. That's the other thing that's amazing. 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:48.519 Hmm. Yeah. I really, I really do love the music 1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:52.120 business like I love music. I love the music business 1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:55.080 because I understand what the music business can do for people. 1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:57.240 Because I understand what the music did for us, what 1:16:57.280 --> 1:16:59.400 the music business did for us, and and people even 1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:02.360 attached to us. You know, our little cousin, Big Rich, 1:17:03.000 --> 1:17:04.840 he like the biggest ship in the bay. You know 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:06.439 what I'm saying. He got all kind of gotta you 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:08.400 got a label deal with Atlantic. Now he got new 1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:10.960 artists coming up. You know what I'm saying. You know, 1:17:12.520 --> 1:17:16.120 like family members who have just they didn't know music 1:17:16.200 --> 1:17:19.120 before we got in music, you know what I mean, 1:17:19.600 --> 1:17:22.000 who are fully immersed in it now and fully love it. 1:17:22.240 --> 1:17:26.080 And I love seeing that. I love being a part 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:28.000 of that, and I love being a part of the 1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:31.160 conversation of like, you know what, man, Jay, you remember when. 1:17:31.760 --> 1:17:33.360 Did you know what other reason for hdown? 1:17:34.280 --> 1:17:39.439 I didn't Yeah, the neutrons. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, 1:17:39.560 --> 1:17:45.040 that's what they told you, Yes, sir, wow, yes, sir, yes, yes, 1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:47.800 favorite groups he was going to have. 1:17:48.520 --> 1:17:50.360 That's that's one of my homies. And he'd be hitting 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:51.920 me and he'd be like, bro, y'all didn't he put 1:17:51.920 --> 1:17:53.599 it up on his grim the other day? Y'all don't 1:17:53.640 --> 1:17:57.040 know nothing about the New Tribes because him and his 1:17:57.280 --> 1:18:00.760 three guys, Yeah, that was their story, like they were 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:06.040 looking at us. You're sometimes you could be an inspiration 1:18:06.080 --> 1:18:08.519 to people and not even we've been in inspiration to 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:11.519 everybody in the Bay Area, like people in our family 1:18:11.560 --> 1:18:14.000 sing and you just never know what it's going to 1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:14.639 turn into. 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:18.280 You know, that's crazy. I didn't know that. I didn't 1:18:18.280 --> 1:18:21.840 know that, But that's why you know, ultimately I've taken 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:25.240 the path that I've taken. And what I realized when 1:18:25.520 --> 1:18:28.479 I when you finally was like, yeah, Jay, from the 1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:31.559 management side, I just looked at it like he's gonna 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:35.360 get us where we gotta go. And I was tired 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:40.400 of seeing people not respect you the way I respected you, 1:18:41.600 --> 1:18:44.040 and I remember you are, you know, the underrated shit 1:18:44.160 --> 1:18:47.840 in the whole. I'm like, man, fuck all that, nigga. 1:18:47.880 --> 1:18:51.559 You shouldn't be underrated, like nigga you him in my mind. 1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:55.080 So I'm like, if I got to sacrifice my career 1:18:55.120 --> 1:18:58.520 for a minute to help him get to this spot, 1:18:58.920 --> 1:19:01.439 so be it, and we'll get to where we gotta 1:19:01.479 --> 1:19:03.400 go and then we'll usher in everything we need to 1:19:03.479 --> 1:19:07.760 from that point on. Speaking of ushering in, it's a 1:19:07.760 --> 1:19:12.799 great segue, yeah, into getting this man finally back behind 1:19:12.800 --> 1:19:19.000 the microphone and singing more than one song. H So 1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:25.120 you go number one on slow Yeah yeah, yeah, yeh, 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:26.360 You're killed on that record. 1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:29.760 Because just so you know, every time men, men, Jay, 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:32.479 we when we sing with singers, right like which Tank 1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:36.000 is the singer? You got to ask yourself like did 1:19:36.040 --> 1:19:38.920 I did I do myself justice? Did I was I 1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:40.840 able to. You know what I'm saying, hang in there? 1:19:40.880 --> 1:19:41.880 Did I get cooked? 1:19:41.720 --> 1:19:43.240 Did I get. 1:19:43.320 --> 1:19:45.640 Call him the next day? I said, Oh, that's what 1:19:45.640 --> 1:19:49.360 you're doing. I got you. 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:51.840 You know his pocket, he knows right where he pull pull. 1:19:51.720 --> 1:19:56.120 The reals back up. Let me sing something. Goddamn right, 1:19:56.640 --> 1:19:58.560 let me sing something. The ship over because he's he 1:19:58.680 --> 1:19:59.240 thinking's sweet. 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:03.120 Let me see. Hey, nigga took part of my hook out, 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:12.880 sang on the hook with me. You you out of control? Back? Yeah? 1:20:14.240 --> 1:20:19.040 Yeah, because he had a tone in the hook that 1:20:19.479 --> 1:20:24.080 was that was necessary. I said, no, that's what the 1:20:24.120 --> 1:20:27.680 hook should sound. So I gotta go back. I want 1:20:27.720 --> 1:20:30.160 to go back and sound like him. You know what 1:20:30.160 --> 1:20:32.600 I'm saying. Like the demo was super, the demo was 1:20:32.600 --> 1:20:36.400 out of control, but when he sang the hook, it 1:20:36.560 --> 1:20:38.440 was a different type of urgency. 1:20:49.760 --> 1:20:52.519 Appreciate you, bro. Yeah, tap me on the shoulder and 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:55.519 allow me to hop on that record when you know 1:20:55.600 --> 1:20:57.599 I love the record. When he just came in period, 1:20:57.760 --> 1:20:59.560 it's like, this record is amazing, bro. You should you 1:20:59.560 --> 1:21:00.880 should sing And he was like, yeah, the only way 1:21:00.920 --> 1:21:02.960 I'll sing is if you do it too. Yeah, you 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:04.800 got you gotta get on this get on this record. 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:07.240 I'm like, fuck, let's go all right, let me let 1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:09.080 me You know, I already know the song because I've 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:09.640 been listening to it. 1:21:10.920 --> 1:21:14.120 You know all the parts, and it's squire Boy, quiet 1:21:14.120 --> 1:21:15.360 boy now I'm quiet boy, right. 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:19.000 Yeah, So I appreciate that, and I think the you know, 1:21:20.200 --> 1:21:22.040 you know what people need to know the importance of 1:21:22.120 --> 1:21:25.200 all of that is that it's for me. It's been 1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:28.479 a hell of a row back for you. Yeah, it's 1:21:28.520 --> 1:21:32.160 all been about timing, and more importantly, it's been about 1:21:32.200 --> 1:21:35.080 your time when it felt right for you, when it 1:21:35.160 --> 1:21:39.320 made sense for you, and coming off of that slow record, 1:21:40.520 --> 1:21:43.880 it couldn't have been any more perfect for you to 1:21:44.000 --> 1:21:48.960 be ready to have your own project and moment back 1:21:49.760 --> 1:21:54.360 as an artist, because you're like, I mean, you know, 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:57.400 you look like my son, but you are Uncle Tank. 1:21:57.560 --> 1:22:02.800 I'm Uncle Tank. Like you're like, it's still fresh and 1:22:03.760 --> 1:22:10.120 and and new. Watching the comments and the commentary around hious, 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:14.360 it's still I mean, it's hilarious. It's crazy, Like I 1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:17.880 find it hilarious. It's brand new. First of all, since 1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:21.439 the podcast is doing so crazy, everybody's like, when was 1:22:21.479 --> 1:22:25.800 somebody gonna tell me the podcast? Nigga can say, when 1:22:25.960 --> 1:22:28.920 was somebody gonna say that, right. The podcast was the 1:22:28.960 --> 1:22:33.040 full introduction. The podcast was like the introduction to the mind. Yeah, 1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:37.479 but now they're getting introduced to the gift, you know 1:22:37.520 --> 1:22:41.679 what I'm saying, Like, and it's it's so crazy because 1:22:41.680 --> 1:22:45.479 it's like, in my mind, I've always known that that 1:22:45.720 --> 1:22:50.800 revelation would create that type of energy, and I've just 1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:55.960 been like impatiently waiting for for for you to come 1:22:56.040 --> 1:22:57.880 around and be ready to do it. 1:22:58.040 --> 1:22:59.920 And now and now it's time. 1:23:00.320 --> 1:23:03.160 Hey, speaking of you know what I knew when we 1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:06.400 did the job to Sy when we remade the song yeah, 1:23:06.600 --> 1:23:11.120 and he was on that thing like, by the way, 1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:14.600 those are our heroes, and we remade the record that 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:21.240 he was on there, I was God, that's when I knew. 1:23:21.280 --> 1:23:24.120 I was like, oh, his tone is so crazy, speaking 1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:27.920 of when did you what made you decide to be like, Okay, 1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:30.200 I'm gonna come back to being an artist. I'm gonna 1:23:30.200 --> 1:23:32.479 come back, you know through a project. 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:38.240 On the other side, I felt like I had something 1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:43.160 to say. I needed something to say, right because everything 1:23:43.240 --> 1:23:45.800 for me and you guys both noticed like I don't 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:48.920 do things that don't have a purpose for me. So 1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:53.800 I felt like I had something to say, and you know, 1:23:54.720 --> 1:24:01.720 I felt like Tank had done enough for us. It 1:24:01.840 --> 1:24:04.600 was put me in coach time. You know. It was 1:24:04.800 --> 1:24:06.960 no seriously like I felt like, damn like Tank is 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:10.160 because you know, I've watched what Tank has done for 1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:12.160 us at R and B money and what he's built 1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:16.000 and what we've built on Tanks back, and I'm like, 1:24:17.560 --> 1:24:19.960 I can help him with that, you know what I mean, 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:21.760 Like I can help him with that. I think for 1:24:21.880 --> 1:24:23.760 me it was just more so how I help him, 1:24:24.200 --> 1:24:28.120 because a big part was I didn't just want to 1:24:28.160 --> 1:24:31.280 be known as a singer like I wanted to be 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:35.160 known for my mind. That was very important for me. 1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:38.200 I didn't want to be I hate to use this term, 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:40.920 but I didn't want to be a dumb blonde. I 1:24:40.960 --> 1:24:43.840 didn't want to be that as they love to treat 1:24:43.920 --> 1:24:45.560 artists that way. They love to treat artists like the 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:48.280 dumb blonde. And I was like, I need them to 1:24:48.320 --> 1:24:51.439 respect my mind first for me, and I felt like 1:24:51.479 --> 1:24:54.080 I had gotten to that point. I have. I'm here 1:24:54.200 --> 1:24:57.000 now where even just not even just in the music business, 1:24:57.040 --> 1:24:59.720 people that you know come up to me from the 1:24:59.760 --> 1:25:02.280 power cast. It's like, man, you know, you give so 1:25:02.360 --> 1:25:06.640 much information man, So you know your thoughts and the 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:09.519 way you look at business and how you go about it. Man, 1:25:09.600 --> 1:25:11.760 I just respect it. And I'm like, that's enough for me. 1:25:12.600 --> 1:25:14.400 That is truly enough for me for people to have 1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:18.519 a different outlook of Oh you got some pretty hair 1:25:18.560 --> 1:25:23.640 and you can sing? You know what I mean? You know? 1:25:23.960 --> 1:25:27.240 So I was like, all right, it's time to I 1:25:27.560 --> 1:25:31.400 got that respect that I wanted, So now it's time 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:33.559 for me to get back into, you know, the feel 1:25:33.640 --> 1:25:38.600 that I've always loved and I've put on hold for 1:25:38.680 --> 1:25:43.240 different reasons, but just I mean, and I. 1:25:43.280 --> 1:25:45.680 Can't wait for everybody to hear the music. Because his 1:25:45.800 --> 1:25:48.240 older brother he played it for me fire, and I 1:25:48.320 --> 1:25:52.320 honestly looked at him and I said, bro, you found it, 1:25:53.000 --> 1:25:53.559 you know what I mean? 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:55.400 You know this was a lot of people don't know 1:25:55.400 --> 1:25:59.519 as an artist, like you're always looking for it? Like 1:25:59.720 --> 1:26:01.160 what am I? Who am I? 1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:03.640 How do I define who I am? Through my. 1:26:05.439 --> 1:26:05.719 Story? 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:10.120 And other times when he had other deals, you could 1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:11.760 tell he was still trying to figure himself out. 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.000 It wasn't even that I was trying to figure myself 1:26:14.040 --> 1:26:18.600 out out. It was a hustle. Mmkay, was getting too 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:21.599 a bag, okay, And I wasn't turning it down, Okay, 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:23.760 you know what I'm saying. I was really you know, 1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:25.680 like I said, I think I'm down. I'm down a 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:29.479 quarter million with city boys. I got to get that back. 1:26:31.400 --> 1:26:34.479 I'm trying to write for other people before I get 1:26:34.520 --> 1:26:36.920 into that electric deal, you know what I mean. Obviously 1:26:37.040 --> 1:26:39.600 our deal was I'm a baby, but I was. It 1:26:39.720 --> 1:26:42.559 was never about me. It was never about like, oh, 1:26:42.760 --> 1:26:45.400 I'm focused on this. It was like somebody heard a demo, 1:26:45.960 --> 1:26:48.040 I did a mixtape record, I did a street record 1:26:48.160 --> 1:26:49.680 or whatever it is. Now people just want to be 1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:52.360 in business with me what I got. I never had 1:26:52.400 --> 1:26:57.479 a time to make my album, and this time I did. 1:26:58.320 --> 1:26:58.920 It's special. 1:26:59.080 --> 1:27:01.200 This time I did. And I mean, since we only, 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:02.600 I might as well announced what the name of the 1:27:02.640 --> 1:27:05.519 album is going to be. It's called Conversations with Women 1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:10.639 mm hmm. And that's what this album is. It's literally 1:27:10.720 --> 1:27:13.840 conversations with women. It's from every aspect. It's not like 1:27:14.000 --> 1:27:20.640 a relationship thing. It's relationships absolutely platonic, romantic, whatever they 1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:23.800 may be. And that's what this album is about. It's 1:27:23.840 --> 1:27:27.120 about me listening because a lot of it needs to 1:27:27.240 --> 1:27:31.800 me speaking from what they told me, even from a 1:27:31.840 --> 1:27:35.439 friendship standpoint. I'm not gonna say what the single is yet. 1:27:36.080 --> 1:27:38.800 You know the single will drop. What the album is called. 1:27:38.920 --> 1:27:43.160 The album is called Conversations with Women, and that's what 1:27:43.280 --> 1:27:43.479 it is. 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:45.600 So let me ask you. 1:27:45.760 --> 1:27:48.120 So when he starts singing, are you now going to 1:27:48.160 --> 1:27:49.679 start managing? Listen? 1:27:49.800 --> 1:27:54.280 Man, listen man, we're all hands on deck, hands on deck, 1:27:55.120 --> 1:27:56.160 we are whatever's needed. 1:27:56.800 --> 1:28:00.760 You know what I'm saying. Have you met take the management. 1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:08.360 Derail man? 1:28:08.400 --> 1:28:09.280 You know we set it up. 1:28:10.439 --> 1:28:19.040 It's oh, it's like and it's crazy. It's like, if 1:28:19.080 --> 1:28:24.040 it's one thing that you can learn from, is this 1:28:24.560 --> 1:28:30.680 community some way or another. Everybody within that community has 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:34.679 a job as a job and a function and they working. 1:28:35.840 --> 1:28:38.280 That's how we got to treat our community. Whoever next, 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:40.120 whoever the next, and now it is time for him 1:28:40.160 --> 1:28:43.120 to go. You've got to fall in line and figure 1:28:43.120 --> 1:28:45.600 out what the position is to get that where it 1:28:45.640 --> 1:28:49.719 needs to be. That's that's the only way it works. 1:28:50.880 --> 1:28:52.280 It can't be like almost got over a little bit, 1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:54.559 Let me get some of that. It can't it can't 1:28:54.640 --> 1:28:58.120 be that. It's got to be how do how do 1:28:58.240 --> 1:29:02.280 we focus? Hyper focus and get it there. Yeah, and 1:29:02.400 --> 1:29:07.800 then we have Now we got two monsters. Then we 1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:10.519 go get the third, then we go get the fourth, 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:15.160 and before you know it, we are who we said, 1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:16.479 we are, who we are who. 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:19.599 We said R money. 1:29:20.000 --> 1:29:24.000 I'm just I'm just I'm happy and proud that you 1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:29.400 know that you're in this space, that you're back in 1:29:29.520 --> 1:29:34.960 this space. And because you know, I don't, I don't 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:37.760 say it lightly or you know, or say it from 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:38.519 a space of. 1:29:43.760 --> 1:29:44.720 Well, I am partial to you. 1:29:45.160 --> 1:29:47.280 I mean, that's just naturally just what it is, but 1:29:48.439 --> 1:29:51.960 really cold and most of the nigs out I appreciate 1:29:52.000 --> 1:29:57.080 it in real life, really are and so it's needed 1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:01.280 to help restore the balance. Yeah, we don't mind the bullshit, 1:30:03.800 --> 1:30:07.880 but this real ship has to also measure up, you 1:30:07.960 --> 1:30:08.400 know what I'm saying. 1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:10.560 And I'm not performing in what I want to the 1:30:10.640 --> 1:30:14.040 story in because I'll be flying at the store too though, 1:30:14.680 --> 1:30:16.080 if you catch me at the grocery store, I got 1:30:16.160 --> 1:30:20.760 some ship on. But that stage is something different. This 1:30:21.280 --> 1:30:25.160 chair right now is something different. You know, these are fabrics. 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:27.880 Talk about it, you know what I mean, It's just 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:30.479 shi It is not a game. It's not a game. 1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:37.519 Because if they can't dress up as you for Halloween. 1:30:39.000 --> 1:30:43.200 You are not a star. You're not a star. Again, 1:30:43.680 --> 1:30:47.240 if they cannot dress up as you for Halloween, you 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:50.880 are not a Star's a young man. You might need 1:30:50.960 --> 1:30:54.080 to unbutton another one. So it gets to a certain 1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:58.759 level mm hmm, and they understand what it is. It's crazy. 1:30:59.080 --> 1:31:00.960 It's gonna be me for that of times. They always 1:31:01.760 --> 1:31:05.360 day too. You always say that, And and that's one 1:31:05.360 --> 1:31:07.439 of the things I look at when I'm looking at artists. 1:31:07.479 --> 1:31:08.040 You know what I'm saying. 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:09.760 This group hit me the other day and I was like, man, 1:31:09.800 --> 1:31:12.880 listen to our song. Listen to listen to this song. 1:31:12.960 --> 1:31:14.680 And I watched the video if you if you send 1:31:14.720 --> 1:31:16.679 me something out hear, I listen to it and you don't. 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:19.200 You might might not know I do, but I do. 1:31:21.439 --> 1:31:25.599 And I listened to the song song what's jamming? Niggas 1:31:25.680 --> 1:31:32.360 can sing? But they look like for random niggas. I'm like, 1:31:32.439 --> 1:31:35.759 y'all are a group? Yeah, if you haven't learned anything 1:31:35.840 --> 1:31:41.360 from Jagged Edge, from Once Twice, show Boys Boys to Men, 1:31:42.080 --> 1:31:44.639 All Great Things, Drew Hill. 1:31:44.680 --> 1:31:49.799 One twelve, like next next like come on, man, look. 1:31:49.840 --> 1:31:53.120 Like truth got to be some uniform look like group 1:31:54.280 --> 1:31:57.400 look like you know each other, look like you spent 1:31:57.560 --> 1:32:01.120 time together to find those outfits. Yeah, and that's just 1:32:01.160 --> 1:32:03.960 from the generation that we came up in. But the 1:32:04.040 --> 1:32:10.720 dell find come Jackson, come on. All great things we're 1:32:10.760 --> 1:32:11.280 talking about. 1:32:11.320 --> 1:32:15.599 There's a formula, the wispers, the whispers, first real player ship, 1:32:15.880 --> 1:32:16.639 there's a formula. 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:18.680 Look at what your has on. 1:32:19.439 --> 1:32:21.400 I hope they see it. That's R and B money. 1:32:22.560 --> 1:32:23.479 That's all kind of money. 1:32:26.920 --> 1:32:29.200 We can't take it with us, right, nigga about two 1:32:29.240 --> 1:32:29.839 hundred thousand. 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:35.840 You gotta understand, like, especially in the business that we in, 1:32:37.080 --> 1:32:42.000 we got us, we're selling something entertainment, entertainment. I don't 1:32:42.040 --> 1:32:43.479 want to look like your next door neighbor. 1:32:44.000 --> 1:32:49.080 I can't. I want your next door neighbor to feel like, damn, 1:32:49.200 --> 1:32:51.240 I gotta look like that so she'll pay me attention. 1:32:51.920 --> 1:32:59.720 There's that. I gotta put that on its levels. It's 1:32:59.800 --> 1:33:05.000 les levels, it's levels, it's levels, and those levels have 1:33:05.120 --> 1:33:07.880 to be represented if we're gonna get back to our 1:33:08.040 --> 1:33:11.920 true space of dominance, and that's what we are. The way, 1:33:12.120 --> 1:33:15.280 and that's what you want. You're on the way, the way, 1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:20.360 on the way. Hold on, man, she got man, I. 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:21.320 Get the full treatment. 1:33:22.400 --> 1:33:24.160 He going to the I think I got the I 1:33:24.280 --> 1:33:30.200 have the longest episode of all time, all time. Listen. 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:32.720 And you know why they can edit whatever they want 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:39.000 because it is the introduction of Valentine. I appreciate that. 1:33:39.120 --> 1:33:39.240 Man. 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:43.679 It's it's it's enough's enough time. Enough time has gone 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:49.200 by without people understanding your history. Yeah, that's it, and 1:33:49.320 --> 1:33:50.880 we're going to take as much time as we need 1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:52.720 to make sure they understand what that is. 1:33:53.680 --> 1:34:05.560 I appreciate that. Sure. In the big game, no, Valentine 1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:09.799 sing a lot of R and B over. 1:34:12.560 --> 1:34:12.600 You. 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:15.640 You've watched a lot of rn B. You've heard a 1:34:15.680 --> 1:34:15.920 lot of. 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:18.880 R n B your students of this R and B. 1:34:19.000 --> 1:34:23.400 Game, mm hmm. 1:34:25.040 --> 1:34:25.800 You have to have. 1:34:28.840 --> 1:34:31.080 The top five. 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:35.000 Top five. 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:48.280 A top five, top five R and B singer lot 1:34:48.600 --> 1:34:50.720 and me song go. 1:34:52.240 --> 1:34:57.360 Valentine's top thought too big top though, I didn't you 1:34:58.320 --> 1:35:00.120 Valentine got of time. 1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:27.800 You Yeah, thank you, bro. 1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:33.800 I appreciate I got my time treatment treatment. Yea valent time. 1:35:35.200 --> 1:35:42.559 Your top five R and B singers? Are we going singers? First? Singers? 1:35:42.800 --> 1:35:43.639 Singers ringers course? 1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:46.479 Okay, I can't prepare, Oh yeah, I can't prepare. 1:35:47.000 --> 1:35:51.320 I can't prepare. You know you know this the show works. Yeah, yeah, okay, 1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:53.599 but you know a lot goes on during the interview, 1:35:53.680 --> 1:35:56.200 so sometimes you need to you need to take your note. 1:35:56.200 --> 1:36:10.760 You understand Shawn Stocking, and my next will tell you 1:36:10.880 --> 1:36:20.680 why I chose Shan Stock, Joe Joe Hayley. They are 1:36:20.800 --> 1:36:26.120 Swiss Army Knights. Anything they can, whatever you want, They're 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:30.840 gonna give it to you anything. So I'm starting with 1:36:30.880 --> 1:36:38.320 those two. Jasmine Sullivant, mm hmm. Jazmine Sullivant. 1:36:38.760 --> 1:36:40.640 They had this thing where, like I guess they have 1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:42.720 this new thing going around, which she was, you know, 1:36:42.840 --> 1:36:45.760 acting like the rent was due. Yeah, I see, like 1:36:45.840 --> 1:36:49.799 the rent was due. And she was singing live somewhere 1:36:50.080 --> 1:36:52.920 and she was singing like if I don't if I 1:36:53.000 --> 1:36:56.960 don't sing like this tonight, I'm gonna be home and 1:36:57.000 --> 1:36:58.559 they're gonna cut one of my feets off. 1:36:58.720 --> 1:37:02.519 That's amazing. That's how I got because she's she there 1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:10.120 for me. Whitney Houston. Yeah, voice, the voice, the voice, 1:37:11.040 --> 1:37:14.560 and my guy number five, I know where you're going, babyface. 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:22.000 Mm hmmm, baby face. Those are my top five for me. 1:37:23.040 --> 1:37:26.479 And I think if you hear me say about to 1:37:26.520 --> 1:37:29.439 say that, they all makes sense I can't sing like them. 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:32.800 I sing yeah you know what I mean? 1:37:32.920 --> 1:37:39.880 Like those are you are to me? Babyface for sure 1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:43.320 without it. I appreciate that because you can. I appreciate 1:37:43.360 --> 1:37:48.479 that you make less sound like more. And Babyface is 1:37:48.560 --> 1:37:52.519 the king of that. Oh yeah yeah, if I could 1:37:52.880 --> 1:37:55.280 be half of that, Yeah yeah, you got that. You 1:37:55.400 --> 1:37:59.040 have that that type of gift, all right, mister Valentine. 1:38:00.280 --> 1:38:04.679 The Valentine like to say, that's so eloquently your top 1:38:04.840 --> 1:38:06.240 five R and B songs. 1:38:06.840 --> 1:38:11.880 I'm ready. DI didn't love her live live, I'm on. 1:38:13.439 --> 1:38:13.679 Live. 1:38:16.000 --> 1:38:19.679 Just still love her. Lie that scream that that woman does. 1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:22.840 Talk about it, talk about the scream. I need it 1:38:23.240 --> 1:38:27.080 at some point. I need that scream. You know what 1:38:27.360 --> 1:38:29.600 sucks is now that you didn't got me hooked on 1:38:29.680 --> 1:38:33.200 any ears. I might not never hear it. I don't 1:38:33.400 --> 1:38:36.200 hear what's going on in my ears. But I need 1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:37.960 that scream. So I'm gonna tell him to turn up 1:38:37.960 --> 1:38:38.960 to the crowd. 1:38:39.320 --> 1:38:39.679 The crowd. 1:38:40.680 --> 1:38:43.360 I need to have that scream. It's different. I might 1:38:43.439 --> 1:38:44.720 run out there and give her a hug if I 1:38:44.800 --> 1:38:46.519 hear that scree in real life. 1:38:47.080 --> 1:38:48.280 I have a feeling you're gonna hear that. 1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:53.479 It's the lady at this girl at the gym, at 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:55.560 this equinox down in Houston. She wanted to do the 1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:59.080 screen for you. She told me, she said, Hey, when 1:38:59.120 --> 1:39:01.439 you see Ja Valentine, can you tell him that, you know, 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:06.240 if he needs a second or third wife. Wow, I'm available, 1:39:06.280 --> 1:39:08.360 I cook, I clean, I have my own job, I 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:08.960 have my more money. 1:39:09.880 --> 1:39:13.479 You know, I'm his brother, so and I'm married, super married, 1:39:14.160 --> 1:39:16.720 and so they get my d ms all about him. 1:39:17.280 --> 1:39:18.000 Can you tell. 1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:22.600 On his line that I'm shooting my shot? Can you 1:39:23.680 --> 1:39:24.200 all the time? 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:26.479 All the time, I was like, I'm trying to do 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:29.840 chest lady, I'm just trying to you know, when you 1:39:30.000 --> 1:39:31.400 when you when you talk to Jay, make sure he 1:39:31.479 --> 1:39:35.960 knows that. Yeah, so distant love her live. 1:39:36.360 --> 1:39:39.920 You'll get the screen. Untitled. 1:39:42.080 --> 1:39:43.840 You're getting deep into these See what type of time 1:39:44.120 --> 1:39:48.040 can deep deep into the crase Today? I'm tired untitled 1:39:48.120 --> 1:39:49.000 Jesus Christ. 1:39:51.840 --> 1:39:58.599 Because I love you, Lenny Williams mm hmmm. It's birth, 1:39:59.280 --> 1:40:03.599 so many right and so many emotions and so many 1:40:06.880 --> 1:40:10.599 it's everything. That record is everything. That record is everything 1:40:10.680 --> 1:40:21.960 to me. This one's gonna throw y'all prototype that's not. 1:40:21.960 --> 1:40:24.880 Gonna throw and shook me up when I first heard it, 1:40:25.760 --> 1:40:27.240 because I didn't think he should have been able to 1:40:27.280 --> 1:40:30.439 do that. I don't like that he did. Hope that 1:40:30.479 --> 1:40:35.440 you're the one, and if not, you are the prototype. 1:40:35.600 --> 1:40:40.080 I hate that he sang it as a singer. Got 1:40:40.120 --> 1:40:46.160 on my nerves. It sounded great, amazing. Oh the Jesus Christ. 1:40:47.479 --> 1:40:48.479 I hope that you're the one. 1:40:50.560 --> 1:40:54.080 I think I'm in love. I think I'm in love. Yeah. Now, 1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:58.680 that record to me is man, it's a it's and 1:40:58.760 --> 1:41:03.280 it's a classic vote cool yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you 1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:05.479 know what I love. He really thought about this though. Yeah, 1:41:07.240 --> 1:41:07.679 he's cooking. 1:41:07.960 --> 1:41:13.320 It's a classic. It's a classic R and B vocal. Yeah, 1:41:14.320 --> 1:41:17.960 no rapper has a classic R and B vocal. Right, No, 1:41:18.400 --> 1:41:19.280 that's that's that's it. 1:41:19.520 --> 1:41:23.040 That's it. That record is is special. And I'm you know, 1:41:23.200 --> 1:41:26.880 since I am, I would consider myself at heart and 1:41:26.960 --> 1:41:30.639 when I still file taxes, I fiul taxes under songwriter. 1:41:31.880 --> 1:41:34.240 So I'm going I'm going to do more than five songs, 1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:38.760 and nobody's going to tell me, yeah, go ahead and 1:41:38.760 --> 1:41:42.599 sing it because I ain't going out. I ain't going out. 1:41:43.160 --> 1:41:46.280 I ain't going out because if it's five, Because if 1:41:46.320 --> 1:41:47.000 it's five. 1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:53.600 Slowly. Oh that's why I be wanting to fight you 1:41:53.680 --> 1:41:58.479 when you don't, because at that point you're not my 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:02.120 brother anymore. I'm a fan. I'm a fan man. I'm 1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:06.679 mad at you for that little snippet on tiny desks. 1:42:07.160 --> 1:42:11.880 You don't disrespect slowly like that, brother, I don't care. No, 1:42:12.360 --> 1:42:19.360 not not slow not slowly? Slowly's back slowly, bro slowly. 1:42:19.560 --> 1:42:22.400 You're right, and listen. I'm only going on tour with 1:42:22.520 --> 1:42:26.720 you again. If you sing slowly, I won't go. They 1:42:26.800 --> 1:42:28.759 be like, why ain't you here? The nigga said he wasn't. 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:30.760 Saying you say, he ain't gonna go? 1:42:30.880 --> 1:42:31.439 He ain't you know? 1:42:31.960 --> 1:42:34.760 I'm all right, So I'm gonna do this fast, do 1:42:34.840 --> 1:42:41.200 this fast, contagious mm hmm. He me and my sisters 1:42:41.240 --> 1:42:45.640 and brothers every family function, we picked the male and 1:42:45.760 --> 1:42:50.040 female parts and we sing contagious at the top of 1:42:50.160 --> 1:42:50.719 our lunges. 1:42:51.720 --> 1:42:54.240 What the hell is going on between? 1:42:57.680 --> 1:42:58.120 I love it? 1:42:58.200 --> 1:42:58.479 Come on. 1:43:00.320 --> 1:43:04.439 So contagious, even gonna get into our baby face? Where 1:43:04.479 --> 1:43:05.560 will we? Where will you go? 1:43:06.280 --> 1:43:09.320 Would people don't even know about that while we're there? 1:43:10.040 --> 1:43:13.839 And break my heart because that's still a babyface. 1:43:17.560 --> 1:43:17.920 Get you. 1:43:20.120 --> 1:43:24.040 By Daniel Ces the record right there. Man, who would 1:43:24.040 --> 1:43:27.479 have thought? Who would have thought? I get you? I 1:43:27.600 --> 1:43:31.280 love those lyrics because I say it all the time, 1:43:31.400 --> 1:43:36.720 Like I don't write from that perspective, because you know, 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:39.000 the girls I've wanted in my life, I've been able 1:43:39.080 --> 1:43:43.600 to date, and I appreciate them for dating me, but 1:43:43.800 --> 1:43:46.960 I've never like I love I love dreams, I love 1:43:47.040 --> 1:43:49.800 your girl. I knew I could never write that record. 1:43:49.840 --> 1:43:52.960 I've never wanted another niggas girl, So I don't even 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:56.599 know how that feels. And that's that's just being very honest, 1:43:56.680 --> 1:43:58.400 Like if you got your girl, nigga, I'm never I'm 1:43:58.400 --> 1:43:59.840 not going to I'm not going to look at her 1:43:59.840 --> 1:44:05.160 toy nice to meet you. I might hear her, I 1:44:05.240 --> 1:44:06.840 might hear her with a heisman if she tried to hurt, 1:44:07.280 --> 1:44:09.600 but you respect because that's that man's woman. I'm just 1:44:09.680 --> 1:44:11.200 not that type of I'm not that type of guy, 1:44:11.240 --> 1:44:12.360 and I don't I don't look at it from that 1:44:12.400 --> 1:44:20.280 standpoint honesty. Pink Sweats, I think I saw an ig 1:44:20.479 --> 1:44:23.639 of him singing that he's in front of like he's incredible, 1:44:23.720 --> 1:44:26.400 four or five, it's incredible. I love that kid. I 1:44:26.520 --> 1:44:35.320 love that kid. Super Crazy, Summer Walker Body, and fun Girl. 1:44:35.640 --> 1:44:39.719 Fun Girl is about Yeah, Okay, y'all go find Funer 1:44:40.960 --> 1:44:45.519 those who know, and then top twenty My last one, 1:44:46.120 --> 1:44:51.280 my last one, forever, my lady. Ah hell, and it 1:44:51.400 --> 1:44:53.320 means that much to me, and it means that much 1:44:53.360 --> 1:44:55.160 to me, and it means that much to me. So 1:44:55.280 --> 1:44:58.000 that's you know, I did forty seven thousand songs like 1:44:58.800 --> 1:45:00.599 these are the people that I love and the music 1:45:00.640 --> 1:45:01.120 that I love. 1:45:01.240 --> 1:45:05.320 And you know you're keeping me warm, you keep me warm. 1:45:05.720 --> 1:45:08.000 That's time you told your woman she's keeping you warm. 1:45:10.360 --> 1:45:11.280 You keep me warm. 1:45:13.120 --> 1:45:18.320 Woman. Yeah, if this is ecstasy and probably boys to men's, 1:45:19.160 --> 1:45:24.720 then you can't leave them out. Oh wow, I'm not 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:28.920 going with the records. Everybody love. I think that's how you. 1:45:28.960 --> 1:45:40.040 Boys instantly getting something you want to get close to 1:45:40.120 --> 1:45:40.599 your woman. 1:45:40.760 --> 1:45:42.920 Put that on a woman you think might want to 1:45:42.960 --> 1:45:45.760 get close to you. Put boys and men put that 1:45:45.920 --> 1:45:49.280 put that boy to men. Yea, yeah, So that's that's 1:45:49.320 --> 1:45:49.719 my top. 1:45:51.400 --> 1:45:54.960 Okay, So Jay, let's do a voltron. Okay, let's do 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:57.360 a volt tron. You know we need the vocal, the 1:45:57.479 --> 1:46:01.160 performance style, the styling, and the heart of the artists. 1:46:02.200 --> 1:46:05.519 Oh and and and I'm gonna add I'm gonna add 1:46:05.600 --> 1:46:10.720 one more for you, Okay. The mind that the intellect 1:46:11.760 --> 1:46:13.800 of the entity. Okay, I'm ready. 1:46:14.240 --> 1:46:18.760 So the vocal, the vocal, My vocal is is a 1:46:18.880 --> 1:46:25.040 hybrid Charlie Wilson and Marvin Gay. Ship. That's nasty. That's 1:46:25.160 --> 1:46:29.200 that's my hybrid of a voice. I think all R 1:46:29.280 --> 1:46:33.559 and B at some point gets to those two guys. 1:46:36.080 --> 1:46:38.880 Try to find your way with Marvin Gay and uh 1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:48.599 and Charlie Wilson. Okay, yet, I'm ready. That's heavy bike, uh, 1:46:49.400 --> 1:46:54.080 performance style, Michael Jackson, that's easy and then that was 1:46:54.120 --> 1:46:59.800 coming easy styling Prince mm hmm. Just think go ahead 1:46:59.800 --> 1:47:02.840 that I'm not ready to do the heel because that's 1:47:02.920 --> 1:47:06.080 just not me. And you know, I'm I'm taller than 1:47:06.120 --> 1:47:09.120 the average man, so I don't need a hell five 1:47:09.160 --> 1:47:10.960 to eleven is taller than the average man. Talk about 1:47:11.439 --> 1:47:14.479 I'm not, you know, not a giant. If I put 1:47:14.520 --> 1:47:16.439 on a heel, now, it's like, okay, nigga, you just 1:47:16.479 --> 1:47:20.599 want to be six three? You got a four inch heel? 1:47:20.800 --> 1:47:20.960 Jay? 1:47:22.320 --> 1:47:22.599 Wrong? 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:26.719 We ain't never doing that, man. What is your doing? 1:47:29.160 --> 1:47:31.519 I tripping dancing? 1:47:31.840 --> 1:47:32.599 Ship his legs? 1:47:34.840 --> 1:47:35.000 You know. 1:47:35.120 --> 1:47:38.240 The last week, sweep that leg. 1:47:38.280 --> 1:47:44.599 So prince the heart of the artist's passion, my other 1:47:44.800 --> 1:47:50.240 I got another hybrid mm hmm. James Brown and Rick 1:47:50.360 --> 1:47:57.880 James Ship to the Coldest Niggas Ship stump down, stumped down, 1:47:58.560 --> 1:48:01.439 and I'm int there, not playing, They're not fucking around. 1:48:01.640 --> 1:48:05.559 And then the mind, the mind Michael Jackson, he bought 1:48:05.560 --> 1:48:16.720 the Beatles, publishing the own half of Sony ATV diabolical, diabolical, 1:48:18.520 --> 1:48:22.360 Michael Jackson doesn't get the credit as a businessman that 1:48:22.439 --> 1:48:22.960 he deserves. 1:48:23.439 --> 1:48:25.560 Can't give you that credit because then you're going to 1:48:26.560 --> 1:48:31.920 you're going to follow that blueprint. Yes, yes, you're not 1:48:32.040 --> 1:48:33.880 allowed to follow that blueprint. 1:48:34.240 --> 1:48:36.280 When they're trying to buy the Marvel comic trying to 1:48:36.280 --> 1:48:40.639 buy everything, Michaels, trying by everything assets Michaels in Vegas. 1:48:41.240 --> 1:48:46.920 He was part of with Steve when assets Michael's something different. Bro, 1:48:47.080 --> 1:48:49.840 you guys just sing music. Don't worry about the assets, 1:48:51.439 --> 1:48:55.080 the publishing, intellectual the intellectual properties. Don't worry about that, 1:48:55.360 --> 1:49:01.639 ye see. So Michael Jackson is my business mind ship. Yeah, 1:49:02.479 --> 1:49:11.240 and his artist is crazy. Listen, and then I'm gonna 1:49:11.280 --> 1:49:13.040 run off my quick while you're playing, before you start 1:49:13.040 --> 1:49:15.400 playing Piano'm gonna run off my quick R and B 1:49:15.479 --> 1:49:20.320 groups since I originally come from a group Boyster Men, 1:49:20.960 --> 1:49:26.880 Josy Jackson. Five new addition, new addition, The Whispers. Those 1:49:26.920 --> 1:49:30.599 are my top five groups. The Whispers in there, those 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:38.439 are my top five groups. Love him Diggers is so cold, 1:49:39.600 --> 1:49:40.519 It's so cold. 1:49:40.880 --> 1:49:42.800 We go to this cat A lot of this is 1:49:42.880 --> 1:49:43.479 our podcast. 1:49:43.600 --> 1:49:47.320 Right to Ship, Yes, sir, I have to pay. 1:49:47.360 --> 1:49:50.200 I might have to pay Ruben and and and Jacob overtime. 1:49:50.840 --> 1:49:53.160 Just charge to me cheap. I'll take. I'll take the. 1:49:58.280 --> 1:50:01.280 Okay, ship, all right, we go. I think you know 1:50:01.320 --> 1:50:03.639 what's coming up? Ship. 1:50:06.200 --> 1:50:10.000 I ain't saying no nick, no names. I ain't saying 1:50:10.120 --> 1:50:12.080 no names, saying no name. 1:50:15.400 --> 1:50:21.320 What you did, I ain't. 1:50:21.160 --> 1:50:22.400 Saying name. 1:50:29.920 --> 1:50:38.240 Jay? Yeah, this is actually segment you made up. Yeah, 1:50:39.840 --> 1:50:43.720 so they're gonna ask me my question. You know what 1:50:43.720 --> 1:50:44.040 I'm saying. 1:50:44.080 --> 1:50:47.280 Hope me some ship I ain't never heard. I got, 1:50:47.360 --> 1:50:49.400 I got story, give me some funny st stories. 1:50:50.720 --> 1:50:55.599 I got funny fucked up. Yeah, I'm never gonna do that. Yeah, 1:50:56.080 --> 1:50:57.000 you talk about. 1:50:58.479 --> 1:51:03.360 What this is Jays, This is Jay, this is Jazz, 1:51:04.160 --> 1:51:06.760 this is Jays. I ain't saying no names. 1:51:07.120 --> 1:51:10.160 Okay, it's my I ain't saying no names. I got 1:51:10.200 --> 1:51:12.160 a couple in here that I could just pull from. 1:51:12.720 --> 1:51:17.280 But we'll studies. Okay, okay, because cos I came on 1:51:17.360 --> 1:51:22.160 here and told multiples but whatever. So some years back, 1:51:24.560 --> 1:51:26.880 me and one of my guys, man, uh, and I 1:51:26.960 --> 1:51:28.559 don't go to a lot of concerts, but he's like, man, 1:51:28.600 --> 1:51:30.960 come come to this concert with me. I was like, 1:51:30.960 --> 1:51:33.320 all right, cool, cool, cool, cool man. You know some 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:36.320 of the homies performing. Blah blah. I was like, okay, 1:51:37.479 --> 1:51:42.559 So we drive down to Fresno. Drive to Fresno. Uh, 1:51:42.800 --> 1:51:46.080 Fresno is about two hours and a half hours, depending 1:51:46.080 --> 1:51:49.040 on how fast you're driving, for sure, Okay, give me three. 1:51:50.160 --> 1:51:53.920 So we go to the show and uh we stay 1:51:53.960 --> 1:51:57.040 to the end. We stay to the end, and you know, 1:51:57.160 --> 1:51:59.320 headed back to LA and one of the one of 1:51:59.360 --> 1:52:03.240 the people that are performing m or that performed that 1:52:03.320 --> 1:52:06.160 night because it's multiple artists on it, and one of 1:52:06.200 --> 1:52:08.479 the artists is like, hey, man, can I Jake, can 1:52:08.520 --> 1:52:10.360 I ride with you back to uh to l a 1:52:12.720 --> 1:52:16.400 truck a bus or something. But you know ship okay, 1:52:17.200 --> 1:52:20.120 because I had you know, I had a truck, and 1:52:20.200 --> 1:52:23.360 so I'm like cool, So next thing, I know, he walks, 1:52:24.640 --> 1:52:27.479 you know, over back to where they were to talk 1:52:27.560 --> 1:52:32.519 to someone else, and you know, I get in the 1:52:32.560 --> 1:52:35.800 car here like hit hit hit uh, hit the truck 1:52:35.880 --> 1:52:37.479 for me. Hit the back thing. It's a it's a 1:52:37.600 --> 1:52:39.360 it's an suv. It's like the extent I don't know 1:52:39.400 --> 1:52:45.240 why my ass had it I rented, you know, like 1:52:45.320 --> 1:52:51.760 the long bed. Uh yeah, one of the extend exhales. 1:52:52.600 --> 1:52:53.920 Right, So I hit the hit the things. 1:52:54.040 --> 1:52:59.559 He put his bag back there, and then he's like, hey, 1:53:00.360 --> 1:53:01.240 can she ride with us? 1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:04.679 Cool? 1:53:05.320 --> 1:53:08.360 I'm not tripping like you're the homie. I don't know 1:53:08.439 --> 1:53:11.880 you as well yet, but you know, it's it's all good. 1:53:12.280 --> 1:53:17.400 Can we can ride? And she looks like Fresno? She 1:53:17.479 --> 1:53:19.960 looks like Fresno. You know how like when you go 1:53:20.040 --> 1:53:20.880 to cities for. 1:53:21.000 --> 1:53:25.800 Every I could tell that she. I could tell that 1:53:26.080 --> 1:53:29.920 she that she didn't take the ride with she didn't fly. 1:53:31.680 --> 1:53:34.640 In with him. I just knew it. You know, you 1:53:34.720 --> 1:53:36.760 go to cities and you're like, oh, you look like 1:53:37.600 --> 1:53:40.680 your local. You look like Dallas you look I mean 1:53:40.720 --> 1:53:43.960 it's certain local looks of women just in different cities. 1:53:44.000 --> 1:53:44.800 They dress. 1:53:46.280 --> 1:53:52.519 Like a local, right, pretty girl? You know, hi, she 1:53:52.640 --> 1:53:54.760 hops in. She says hi, says hi to me and 1:53:54.840 --> 1:54:00.559 my homie, and we're riding. And now it's the end 1:54:00.600 --> 1:54:02.880 of the show. So it's maybe eleven twelve at night. 1:54:03.160 --> 1:54:06.479 Were on Highway five. You've driven Highway five. You've driven 1:54:06.560 --> 1:54:12.599 Highway five. It's pitch black, it's dark. So we rhying, 1:54:12.680 --> 1:54:15.200 were listening to music, being a homie. We talking and 1:54:15.240 --> 1:54:21.240 shit and next thing, WI hear some heavy naked that's whatever. 1:54:21.320 --> 1:54:23.120 I say. Okay, that's cool, that's cool, you know what 1:54:23.160 --> 1:54:25.880 I mean, Like, I'm not, I ain't driven. He wants 1:54:25.920 --> 1:54:26.640 some activities. 1:54:26.760 --> 1:54:27.160 It's cool. 1:54:27.200 --> 1:54:29.760 We got it. We got a long ride, man, you know. 1:54:32.880 --> 1:54:43.600 And then we hear like, oh, they're letting the sea back. Okay, 1:54:43.720 --> 1:54:48.320 but now I think they have climbed into the back. 1:54:49.800 --> 1:54:52.520 So I'm looking at the at the thing like I 1:54:52.560 --> 1:54:54.760 just want to make sure to hit something. So I 1:54:54.920 --> 1:54:58.520 look and I just see the back of two people 1:54:58.960 --> 1:55:05.640 going over and letting down. I'm like, oh no, no, 1:55:07.560 --> 1:55:12.720 they're about to get to it. Nigga Ryan. For about 1:55:12.720 --> 1:55:15.800 another five now, it sounds like some different type of smacking, 1:55:17.000 --> 1:55:19.920 you know that you know, like you know, maybe a 1:55:19.920 --> 1:55:23.480 little filatio or something, a little you know, it's activities mash. 1:55:24.320 --> 1:55:28.400 So I'm like, okay, getting bossed up, Okay, getting bossed up. 1:55:29.560 --> 1:55:30.880 But the next thing I hear is. 1:55:34.640 --> 1:55:47.480 I didn knock my motherfucker watch like this, and I'm like, no, no, man, no, 1:55:49.520 --> 1:55:50.960 And I look at the homie. 1:55:50.600 --> 1:55:54.680 And he's like yeah, it's yeah. 1:55:55.720 --> 1:55:57.880 And me and him are boat trying to figure out 1:55:57.920 --> 1:56:00.680 a way not to look at the like to look 1:56:00.720 --> 1:56:01.400 in the rear view. 1:56:02.520 --> 1:56:05.720 I don't want to see what's going on, but I 1:56:05.800 --> 1:56:06.360 can hear it. 1:56:06.760 --> 1:56:13.920 Yeah, yeah, man, we're driving, he's he is giving her 1:56:14.000 --> 1:56:17.720 the business man putting on the shows. He's putting on 1:56:17.760 --> 1:56:20.000 the show for me and the homie dog he put 1:56:20.040 --> 1:56:26.200 on the show. I have to get gas, bro, I've 1:56:26.320 --> 1:56:28.160 driven the fres now, now I got to drive home, 1:56:28.440 --> 1:56:33.080 honey gas. So I'm like, you know when you go 1:56:33.160 --> 1:56:40.480 to the gas station. N Yeah, I'm like, ship mmm, 1:56:41.120 --> 1:56:44.760 get off. Smacking stops a little bit because they could 1:56:44.760 --> 1:56:50.160 tell I'm getting off. The homie. Like we pull into 1:56:50.200 --> 1:56:52.440 the gas station, You're like, y'all want something from you 1:56:52.600 --> 1:56:53.440 want something from stove. 1:56:54.480 --> 1:56:57.000 I'm like, no, brodn't even wanted to shake your hair 1:56:57.200 --> 1:56:59.840 right now? What have you been doing? You want to 1:56:59.840 --> 1:57:08.560 get me a gatorade. No, and I'm still. 1:57:08.440 --> 1:57:11.920 Looking at the steer where I'm like, hey, broke, you 1:57:12.000 --> 1:57:13.000 gotta pump the gas. 1:57:13.120 --> 1:57:14.200 Bro, I'm just here. 1:57:16.880 --> 1:57:19.200 And get in. He got a couple of Gatorays, maybe 1:57:19.240 --> 1:57:24.200 a water, nigga. He goes to the gatorade. Down, nigga. 1:57:24.520 --> 1:57:26.000 We get another five minutes. 1:57:26.880 --> 1:57:27.920 He back to it. 1:57:28.280 --> 1:57:31.720 No way, he have to be on the pill man he. 1:57:31.840 --> 1:57:39.680 Had yeah, man, yeah, something last too long with the 1:57:39.760 --> 1:57:40.040 kids on. 1:57:40.160 --> 1:57:44.200 Now he had to be on a perk thirty you 1:57:44.240 --> 1:57:50.240 gotta be giving it a perky man, man. 1:57:50.400 --> 1:57:52.760 He knocked her down from the for the rest of 1:57:52.840 --> 1:57:55.320 the trip. Rest of the trip, y'all to listen to 1:57:55.400 --> 1:57:56.840 that for the rest of the trip. Turn the music 1:57:56.920 --> 1:58:00.560 up loud, turn the music up from the realm. Because 1:58:00.600 --> 1:58:01.120 I'm not a hater. 1:58:01.680 --> 1:58:06.160 Almost three albums, I'm not a hater. They might have 1:58:06.200 --> 1:58:11.120 took like a half a nap. Poundtown Baby, they got 1:58:11.200 --> 1:58:11.480 right back. 1:58:11.960 --> 1:58:14.440 That girl got that song right now, Pound. 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:21.440 Town, Poundtown. I told her a new one. So then 1:58:21.560 --> 1:58:23.480 we get to La dropping them off at the hotel. 1:58:23.520 --> 1:58:24.400 I'm like, bro, what you going. 1:58:25.080 --> 1:58:26.640 It's like, yeah, I'm about to go upstairs and let 1:58:26.680 --> 1:58:28.240 her have it some more. Then she gotta find her 1:58:28.280 --> 1:58:32.680 way back to fress though. I said, if this ain't 1:58:32.720 --> 1:58:39.160 a oh my gosh, I ain't saying. 1:58:39.200 --> 1:58:42.360 Names, that's a great story, great story. 1:58:43.160 --> 1:58:52.280 I ain't saying on names. Wow, oh Poundtown. I don't 1:58:52.280 --> 1:58:52.760 know what to say? 1:58:55.640 --> 1:58:56.880 Should should I hate it? 1:58:56.960 --> 1:58:57.080 Now? 1:58:58.320 --> 1:59:01.040 I felt like I was a It's like, you. 1:59:01.120 --> 1:59:05.800 Know what, maybe there should be some courtesy involved, like like, look, 1:59:05.880 --> 1:59:07.440 you know, appreciate you let me ride. 1:59:07.840 --> 1:59:11.000 I'm gonna probably dig this out, Like is that alright 1:59:11.080 --> 1:59:13.760 with you? Wipe up there? Y'all got wipes up there? 1:59:13.840 --> 1:59:17.000 Like y'all got any type of towel lets like should 1:59:17.000 --> 1:59:18.400 be stopping by a big towel. I don't know how 1:59:18.440 --> 1:59:22.400 that's gonna go. I feel like there should have been 1:59:22.440 --> 1:59:26.800 some type of maybe absolutely or you know, y'all want 1:59:26.840 --> 1:59:28.200 something to like some just just. 1:59:32.920 --> 1:59:33.680 Include everybody. 1:59:33.680 --> 1:59:35.640 I don't know, like some type of I would have 1:59:35.720 --> 1:59:40.480 turned to that, of course you would, you know. I'm 1:59:40.560 --> 1:59:44.839 just trying to think about it's gonna have been sensibly avoided. 1:59:45.040 --> 1:59:47.720 Uh yeah, that's my that's my story, man, that's my 1:59:48.040 --> 1:59:50.880 saying that. That's a no timer bro downtown, that's a 1:59:50.960 --> 1:59:54.680 nold timer. That's yes, we alred to beat that one. 1:59:58.440 --> 2:00:01.440 I'm gonna that's right with or Lynx punching whoever in 2:00:01.480 --> 2:00:01.800 the face. 2:00:02.080 --> 2:00:02.480 That's right. 2:00:02.560 --> 2:00:06.600 That's what would you say after all the stuff that 2:00:06.640 --> 2:00:08.880 we've talked about, what would you say is your greatest accomplishment? 2:00:10.360 --> 2:00:20.680 My kids? Yeah? My kids? I uh, that's my ultimate 2:00:20.720 --> 2:00:24.720 sacrifice for everything, Like I could make way more money, 2:00:25.360 --> 2:00:28.400 do way more things. I never want to have that 2:00:28.560 --> 2:00:31.920 conversation to where they feel like I chose anything over 2:00:32.000 --> 2:00:35.680 them at this point. For me, at this stage of 2:00:35.720 --> 2:00:43.400 my life, I'm not sacrificing my time with them for anything, 2:00:44.120 --> 2:00:45.760 Like I'm going to figure out how to get to 2:00:45.840 --> 2:00:53.440 soccer practice and basketball practice and volleyball camp, graduation, take 2:00:53.480 --> 2:00:56.040 them to school, like I'm going to figure it out. 2:00:56.120 --> 2:00:58.040 Like I can't do it every single day and all 2:00:58.120 --> 2:01:01.560 day long, but I'm getting my time and so to me, 2:01:01.680 --> 2:01:05.560 that's that's my greatest accomplishment. I've made money, I've had success. 2:01:05.920 --> 2:01:11.320 Nothing felt like that. Yeah, nothing felt like you know, 2:01:11.720 --> 2:01:15.240 my kids being born. And you know then I be 2:01:15.360 --> 2:01:20.760 acting like I hit a three, Like yeah, bab how 2:01:20.840 --> 2:01:23.160 you do that again? See dad? If you just have 2:01:23.240 --> 2:01:28.160 to loosen your hips, Dad, you know how Naomi get 2:01:28.200 --> 2:01:34.280 out so just docing Naomi, well, my greatest accomplishment. But ja, 2:01:34.400 --> 2:01:37.560 we love you brother. That goes saying I love you man, 2:01:37.720 --> 2:01:38.360 you know what I'm saying. 2:01:40.120 --> 2:01:42.640 You know, in terms of this, I just think it's 2:01:42.680 --> 2:01:45.000 so much more, so much more left for you to do, 2:01:45.920 --> 2:01:50.760 so much more left for you to accomplish. And at 2:01:50.800 --> 2:01:54.320 this point very happy that we're on the road two. 2:01:55.280 --> 2:01:58.040 Putting the face with the name, putting the face to 2:01:58.120 --> 2:02:03.840 the music. You should understand, Yeah, this is why where 2:02:03.840 --> 2:02:06.160 are the authorities on all. 2:02:06.040 --> 2:02:09.320 Things R and B? Yeah? Yeah, And you know, I'm 2:02:09.400 --> 2:02:13.760 set out to put us in a space that nobody 2:02:13.840 --> 2:02:18.240 ever can do what we did. That's that's it. We 2:02:18.360 --> 2:02:23.920 managed each other, we both made records. We made an 2:02:23.920 --> 2:02:28.480 amazing podcast because I will say that our podcast, bro 2:02:28.680 --> 2:02:32.200 is a great joy for me. Like this, this this 2:02:32.400 --> 2:02:36.600 thing that we have, man, that that we've done along 2:02:36.680 --> 2:02:42.640 with Ruben and with Jacob and with Boh, this is 2:02:42.760 --> 2:02:44.680 this is amazing. I have a great time doing it 2:02:44.760 --> 2:02:46.320 and I would I would do it for free, but 2:02:46.360 --> 2:02:50.400 I'm not going to do it for free. And you know, 2:02:50.840 --> 2:02:53.360 when when our when our first you know, our first 2:02:53.440 --> 2:02:55.320 deal is up, because we do got one deal in place, 2:02:55.400 --> 2:03:00.600 but when that first deal is up. Yeah, it's gonna 2:03:00.600 --> 2:03:05.480 get Beverly Hills here. I come here. I come like 2:03:05.520 --> 2:03:08.040 the way that sound, like the way that sound. I 2:03:08.200 --> 2:03:14.080 like Beverly Hills. I like Beverly. Fuck all them, getty communities, 2:03:14.200 --> 2:03:15.920 all of them. I need it. 2:03:16.160 --> 2:03:18.040 It's a beautiful thing how it all comes together. 2:03:19.880 --> 2:03:25.000 Not if when, not if, it's don't fucking happen. Just 2:03:25.080 --> 2:03:26.520 the work, you know what I'm saying. That's one thing 2:03:26.600 --> 2:03:28.120 that nobody can take from us. 2:03:28.280 --> 2:03:28.880 We do the work. 2:03:29.600 --> 2:03:32.879 You do the work, brother, and thank you, bro. That's 2:03:33.040 --> 2:03:37.879 that's what's gonna last. Work's gonna last hard working dedication 2:03:38.000 --> 2:03:39.280 is Floyd mad Yeah. 2:03:39.640 --> 2:03:42.200 Yeah, And we do and we do it like yes 2:03:42.320 --> 2:03:44.920 that you know obviously everybody knows. I I get back 2:03:44.920 --> 2:03:47.200 to the numbers and the money. But this is for 2:03:47.320 --> 2:03:50.200 the culture. Like this thing that we do is for 2:03:50.320 --> 2:03:53.360 the culture. And we take that very serious and we 2:03:53.480 --> 2:03:57.880 want people to see it in that light. You gotta 2:03:58.040 --> 2:04:01.360 you gotta really love this ship absolutely to do it. 2:04:01.400 --> 2:04:03.640 We can really be invested in this thing that we 2:04:03.920 --> 2:04:06.840 you know, this R and B, this music business, because 2:04:06.880 --> 2:04:09.640 it also isn't just an R and B podcast. It's 2:04:09.680 --> 2:04:11.400 called R and B Money because that's the name of 2:04:11.440 --> 2:04:14.840 our company and we want to cement that in people's minds. 2:04:15.800 --> 2:04:18.240 But this is not just an R and B podcast. 2:04:18.920 --> 2:04:22.080 We talk about everything. We can talk to anybody and 2:04:22.440 --> 2:04:26.040 shout out to our senior Hall for coming to that 2:04:26.160 --> 2:04:32.360 dressing room at the Forum and telling us that we 2:04:32.480 --> 2:04:36.360 got something and that we can we can continue his legacy. 2:04:37.920 --> 2:04:40.000 I'll never forget that. I'll never forget him and there 2:04:40.000 --> 2:04:43.280 telling jokes with our kids like I love you, Bro, 2:04:43.480 --> 2:04:45.800 I don't, I don't know you like that. But from 2:04:45.880 --> 2:04:49.360 that moment, you can do no wrong in my eyes, 2:04:49.560 --> 2:04:54.440 and ultimately I hope that we can we can continue 2:04:54.520 --> 2:04:56.720 to do this at this level and take this to 2:04:57.080 --> 2:05:00.000 you know, hire places and give people a safe place 2:05:00.080 --> 2:05:04.240 us to come and be themselves. Absolutely so, yeah, ladies 2:05:04.240 --> 2:05:09.080 and gentlemen. Uh, I am Tank. This is Bob. 2:05:11.680 --> 2:05:13.680 And this is the R and B Money Podcast, the 2:05:13.760 --> 2:05:17.360 authority on all things R and B. This has been 2:05:18.000 --> 2:05:24.280 a special, a special special segment for your five Park 2:05:24.920 --> 2:05:30.840 segment top eighty two, and in just reintroducing and introducing 2:05:31.240 --> 2:05:35.720 you to our brother Dave and make sure you understand 2:05:36.160 --> 2:05:39.240 who and what he is and where we're going on 2:05:39.320 --> 2:05:42.920 over this. I hope you are Buckle love my brother. 2:05:43.720 --> 2:05:45.960 I love a lot of work. Love you. I love you, 2:05:46.960 --> 2:05:49.680 Yeah for Real Lady Dave bal. 2:05:55.480 --> 2:05:56.560 R and B Money. 2:05:57.960 --> 2:05:59.680 R and B Money is a production of the Black 2:05:59.680 --> 2:06:04.520 Affect podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 2:06:04.640 --> 2:06:08.480 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 2:06:08.520 --> 2:06:12.360 favorite shows. Don't forget to subscribe to and rate our show, 2:06:12.720 --> 2:06:15.320 and you can connect with us on social media at 2:06:15.400 --> 2:06:19.640 j Valentine and at the Real Tank. For the extended episode, 2:06:19.760 --> 2:06:23.960 subscribe to YouTube dot com, forward Slash, R and B 2:06:24.080 --> 2:06:24.320 Money