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Speaker 1: And you know, she survived, you know she survived good. Yeah, amazing,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, first of all, I just want to say

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, we thank you so much. And her foundation,

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Speaker 1: Games going, let's get some kickball games.

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Speaker 2: I talked to him about you were bringing our comedian friends,

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Speaker 2: It ain't just for her. It's going to keep going on.

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Speaker 3: Tallege that we are authority at this point.

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Speaker 1: I'm just Jay And every time I say new see it,

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Speaker 1: I adn't even do nothing right. I feel right. So

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Speaker 1: We're the underdogs. Everybody's rooting for us. Damn. Like, Nigga,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting this motherfuck spray painted T shirt tomorrow. We

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Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody get the R E P. Little pistol, a starter, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was a millionaire. I got cracking. It

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? We out there, I blew it all.

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00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: Chief he got a money sign on his forehead. What

424
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: can we get this nigga who's coming from a major

425
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: label music business to spend. And as we're doing this

426
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: stuff with Bailey, our mother passes away. And I had

427
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: been going back and forth. I was kind of, you know,

428
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: back and forth city of the city. And when she

429
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: passed away, I was just like, I need to move back.

430
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: So I moved back to San Francisco. I sold, I

431
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: sold my car. I bought like a twenty two hundred

432
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: dollars bucket because I didn't want to be a money sign.

433
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: It was a stick shift that a pocket full of money.

434
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: Man.

435
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I want to kind of get immersed

436
00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: into what's going on in the bay. But I'm also spinning.

437
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: But I'm pulling up in the bucket. But I'm spending.

438
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing mixer meetings. This is my college. This is

439
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: me really getting my feet wet on the music business side,

440
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: because I'm paying for everything. Photo shoot, the vehicle wrapped,

441
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: the studio time, the setting up a studio, the paying

442
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: for overnight spins that I don't know are overnight spins

443
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: because they're lying to me. And now I want to

444
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: hurt somebody because they told me I would get ten

445
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: spins a week. They didn't tell me they would play

446
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: at two thirty in the morning. But you know, I'm

447
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: learning the business. Yeah, your niggas was fuck niggas for

448
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: that man, that's galishya. I could have told me when

449
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna get my spins, but whatever, and I'm losing.

450
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm losing, and I realized why I lost because I

451
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: didn't do what the people wanted. I did what we

452
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: wanted initially, and we just wanted to do the music

453
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: we wanted to do with the artists, where Bailey Bailey

454
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: had his mindset of what he wanted to do, and

455
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: I'm rolling with him and we're trying to get a

456
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: record on radio that says fuck your couch mm hmm

457
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: early fuck your couch nigga too far. The record was hard, ship,

458
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: the ship was hard, and it didn't work. And as

459
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm losing money, we started working on a mixtape and

460
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: I used to do a character. Instead of it being

461
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Ron Eisley, he was called Ron Heife mm hmm, where

462
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: I would sing songs, but in a Bay Area way,

463
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: but I would like jokingly sing them. I would be

464
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: singing that type of ship on our mixtapes, just fucking

465
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: talking about being Ron Hypey, which ultimately we end up

466
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: naming our brother Ron Heifey because his name was Ron,

467
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: but it was a take from Ron Eisley and then

468
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: doing that like people start, you know, we had a

469
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: little mixtape of you know, and the DJs out there

470
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: will be like, man, what's that, Ron Heifey? Should you

471
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: be doing funny than? Motherfucker? And I go up to

472
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: the radio station to see Big Vin and he's like,

473
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: it's this record man, that just came out. It's going crazy.

474
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: He's like, man, it's goofy though it got like this

475
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: weird ass sound on it. These vocals is weird. And

476
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, playing for me and he like he pushed

477
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 1: the thing.

478
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: It's like, oh it's brom She got me.

479
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: And t Pey was singing with the auto tune of

480
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I listened to it one time

481
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, nigga, I flipped that already. I'm

482
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: fucking around. We playing dominoes. I used to go up

483
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: to go up to the radio station and just play

484
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: Dominoes with Big Vin. I'm like, already flipped that. He's like,

485
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: what do you mean you flipped it. He's like, how

486
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: I go. I'm like, go, dumb dog I heipee. And

487
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: he's like, Nigga for real. I'm like, yeah, Nigga, got

488
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: about white tea. Yeah, my Nigga. I'm freestyling. He like,

489
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: where's I'm like, oh, it's at the studio. I'm lying

490
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: my ass off. I have no song. I'm making up

491
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: parts and I'm getting out of there before you ask

492
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: for more. Right. So he's like, Nigga, you bring that.

493
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm playing that tonight. I was like, nig I've been

494
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: fighting for radio spins on Bailey. I'm like, wait, you

495
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: just told me you're gonna play something, Nigga. I'll be

496
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: back in thirty minutes. Go to the house. At this time,

497
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm staying. I'm staying in my cousin's basement and I

498
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: have a studio setup in the bottom of it. In

499
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: the bottom of the house. I know how to work protus.

500
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean you know that I was your engineer for

501
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: a long time, and before we had Danny and Ruben, right,

502
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: I was I was in between next week because Zany

503
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: actually helped me and taught me. But I know how

504
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: to engineer. At the time, I know how to use

505
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: I had an inbox, remember the inbox and the little

506
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: speakers that came with the little white speakers in audios

507
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: with the little you know, little blue knobs had that.

508
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: So I'm flipping records down there. But I'm like, I'm

509
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: not gonna use auto tune on it. I'm just gonna

510
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: sing it. But I was bushing, but I was singing

511
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: as Ron Haiphi, So I don't sing that record seriously.

512
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: And I'm playing his on playback and from every lyric,

513
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm just switching it to a Barrier lyric. I'm in

514
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: the club feeling dishes, looking for a couple of little bitches, you.

515
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.

516
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle like money, you know what I'm

517
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: saying with some college girls that's acting like they won't

518
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: me that this is my lyrics, right, so I go

519
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: knock it out. At the time, they were having a

520
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: mix of meeting. It's called the Longman Convention. His name

521
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: was Greg Lolly. He had this convention of all so

522
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: everybody's just happenstance Bro everybody's in town for this mixing meeting.

523
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I take the record to the Strip Club. Bond is

524
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: in the Strip Club. My guy D from d in

525
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: Shadow is in there, and I hand the CD. I

526
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: got on some fucking cargo shorts. I had the cargo.

527
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean I had the CD in my cargo shorts.

528
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: I had him the CD. Nigga push play and obviously

529
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: you know when that song first starts, it's only starts

530
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: with vocals, but the girls knew I'm sprung because it

531
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: was cracking. But when he pushes for the vocals, he

532
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: goes good dump and they're like looking around. These are

533
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: the strippers they're looking around or the exotic dance. I'm sorry, ladies,

534
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: they're looking around and Nigga they start popping it.

535
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh.

536
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Shit, we got the DJ, and we got that nigga

537
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: that I don't even don't really know that well. D.

538
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: He's like a head, He's like the radio guy.

539
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: Nigga.

540
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: This shit is a smash. I'm like, it is. It's

541
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: a joke. I'm not singing it was all one take.

542
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: Whatever I heard him say. I just sang it a

543
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: different lyric. I never went back. It's fucked up vocals

544
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: on that song. He's like, Nigga, I'm playing this shit

545
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: as soon as I get to work tomorrow. Turn your

546
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: radio on. He used to control Top Top eight at

547
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: eight or to Hot six at six, whatever it was.

548
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: He plays me as the last song. By the end

549
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: of that day, it was the number one song. It's crazy.

550
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: The phone lines lit the fuck up. Nobody knows who

551
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: Jay Valentine is, though, I'm still j NEWT to niggas

552
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. So he's like, yeah, I got this record,

553
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: Jay Valentine. Everybody thinks I'm Spanish. I don't know why.

554
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if Valentine has a thing on it

555
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: or something, but they all think I'm spared. Valentine is

556
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: a thing that I was so but I'm Jay Valentine right,

557
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, nobody knows what it is.

558
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: So I'm like he's calling me. Like the next day,

559
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: he's like, Nigga, the phone lines won't stop going off.

560
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: I can't even play t Payne's version no more. The

561
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: next day. This is at this point, it's like the

562
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: hottest record in the Bay. His new record is and

563
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: it's brand new though, but it's like it's burning the

564
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: clubs up, it's burning the streets, the radio, everything. My

565
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: record completely stops it. But I understand the music business

566
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: at the time. I never register my song, and I

567
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: did that purposely so he would get every spin that

568
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: I got. Ye it's his song. So when they go

569
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: to cease and desist me, they're like, wait, but it's

570
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: not registered. I'm like, nah my nig At the time,

571
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Charles Kelly, it's LinkedIn, Chuck Chuck is linked in. The

572
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: T Pain puts me on the phone with T Pain.

573
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: He're like, nigga, you know how you talking. I'm like,

574
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: what's up?

575
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: Man?

576
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: Like you stole my ship. So I'm like, yeah, dog,

577
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: I stole your record. Bro, like I love it, like

578
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: for real. He's like, Nigga, that's how I got on.

579
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: I stole a CON's record. He said, nigga, do your thing.

580
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: I said, bro, they I said, jib is trying to

581
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: see some desist me. I told them, niggas, they can't

582
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: seiz some this shit.

583
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: It's nothing.

584
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is a real nigga. He's like,

585
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: and I want to have a sing off. I said,

586
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: you don't want that. I said. I was walking around

587
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: in that song pain. He's like, nigga were having a

588
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: sing off nigga, right, So we we're just cracking jokes

589
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: on the phone, he said, But when I come back

590
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: to the bay, I'm stealing my ship back. Comes back

591
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: to the bay, he only sings, go dumb, stole his

592
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: ship back, right, He sings my version right. The whole

593
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: shit killed it great nigga man, and it starts a

594
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: bidding war. Don't even have no demo. I have nothing.

595
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: I got a song, and I got some songs I

596
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: wrote for other people. Once again, because I wasn't trying

597
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: to be an artist. I only did this ship one

598
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: because the money was getting low and it just happened

599
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: on luck. I got it all back, chief, I got

600
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: it all back. I went and set with everybody. Everybody's

601
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: offering the ultimate bag. I'm like, oh, I'm about to

602
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: be rich rich now.

603
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: The song is going crazy, and the song is going crazy,

604
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: and Bobby back too.

605
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: And I'm doing only five thousand to perform one song.

606
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing three or four of those easy going nuts.

607
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: I'm driving from San Jose to Oakland to uh back

608
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, back to fucking sebastopool of our Mill

609
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Valley somewhere across that bridge. I'm crossing every bridge we

610
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: have in the Bay Area every weekend, multiple nights.

611
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, you know, the bad is small. This nigga

612
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: was like a king.

613
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: No no, So then what do I call myself? The

614
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: King of r and ba? Yeah? Yeah, I want all

615
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: of the smoke because at this point I'm the only

616
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: nigga singing too. Everybody else rapping. We got you know,

617
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: I become what they do know me as I was

618
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: the video ho fora keisha, so that's what they knew

619
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: me as. And that's when I had to cut my

620
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: braids when I move home, because I'm like, I got

621
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: tired of girls running up on me talking about why

622
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: I do keisha like that. Forty used to have his

623
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: club called the Ambassador's Lounge. It was the most ratchet shit.

624
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: It used to get shot up all the time. I'm sorry, Forty,

625
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: but your shit used to get shot up. They used

626
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: to shoot it up, and it was in San Jose

627
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: and they would literally make you get right on the

628
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: freeway from the club. But the last straw, I think

629
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: a nigga shot it up in a winter bago and

630
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: then tried to drive off. They got caught, but that

631
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: was the end of that slows giving nigga. You know, listen,

632
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: when you when you into it, you into it. So

633
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting a full bag. Everybody's offering me a deal.

634
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: I do my deal at J Records. What I do

635
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: when I get my deal, I come back to see

636
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: all my niggas. I gotta go see t Pay because

637
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: he didn't do the season desist, So I give him

638
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: a bag. I fuck with Polo, I give him a bag.

639
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: Who else the Underdogs and Big D and Jim Johnson

640
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: And this is when I meet Static, and me and

641
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Static become really close friends. And he wrote me a

642
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: record called Get with This Pimp. Mm hmmm. I don't

643
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: know why niggas always wanted to put me in that space,

644
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: but you know, he wrote me, you have no idea.

645
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: Wrought me a record called Get with This Pepper, and

646
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: we did a trade off. I gave him a record,

647
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: he gave me that record. What's the record? I gave

648
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: him miracles thing. It's called Miracles and the I was

649
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: our trade off. That became my nigga. But then I'm

650
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: back at the Underdogs with my bag of money, my

651
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: new deal I'm shiny as ever, and I come see

652
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: my guys. And that's where she worked. The trouble came from.

653
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: That's where she worked. The trouble came from. And you

654
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: little Steve, Tony Dixon.

655
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: Eric.

656
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: Damon Harvey, everybody just was like nigga ja here because

657
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: I was you know, I was still I was an underdog,

658
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, no matter what if I left

659
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: or not, I was a nigga. I was an underdog.

660
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: So we did those records, and I should have been with.

661
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: You, and.

662
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I had this time. I had my chance to be

663
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: Ron Nut. I had my chance to be Ron Newt.

664
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: And when I became Ron Newts, I was rushing because

665
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I felt like they were slowing up my past, my path.

666
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: They they weren't moving fast enough. We had some internal

667
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: shit with marketing and different people, and I had leaked.

668
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: You know that I leaked. She worked his trouble. No,

669
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

670
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta tell him this though, too, Tank When

671
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I say they spent a bag on this niggas record

672
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: though he worked with everybody oh and drag, Yeah, yeah, bro.

673
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: The sessions we was in was insane. It was they

674
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: had to spend two million dollars. I mean it was bro.

675
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: He had everybody that was a name on that record.

676
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did, like Larry Jackson, my guy, my brother,

677
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: Larry set it out for me. But Larry didn't know

678
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: that they were against him and ultimately against me, because

679
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: Larry was my same age. We were the same age

680
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: at the label at the time. I'm twenty five twenty four,

681
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: he's twenty five to twenty four. They're like, young punk

682
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: and this your first signing. Nah, we're not really rolling

683
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: with that, nigga. And I started to pick up on

684
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: that and I'm yo, bro, they not like, why did not?

685
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: This record is going crazy? Like she Wrot the troubles rocking,

686
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm like, they're not fucking

687
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: with me, bro like. And then I get on the

688
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: phone with, you know, with some of the team at

689
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: the label, and I could just hear it in their

690
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: tone like, oh, this is bad. And at the time,

691
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: Deuce is on the way, my son is on the way,

692
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: and I'm in that mode. I got my first kid

693
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: on the way. You niggas is playing with my money,

694
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: y'all asking me not to do as many shows no

695
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: more because it's not the same time as it is

696
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: now where they want you to. They're like, oh, we

697
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: just want you an album mode, we want you doing this.

698
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nigga, I went from getting these bags every

699
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: weekend and y'all slowing shit up because it wasn't immediate.

700
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: So I leaked the record and shit goes crazy. But

701
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: what I don't realize is me e king the record

702
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: made people in the building look bad. So now it's

703
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: another sword thrown at me, like this nigga and he

704
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: think this and we don't like his attitude. Man, But

705
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: I had an amazing deal. Shout out to Tim Mandelbaumb.

706
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: Tim Mandelbaum was my lawyer. Tim Mandelbaum set me up

707
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: a deal. It was called a two put and in

708
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: this deal, they had to guarantee me two albums and

709
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: if they did not record the second album, they had

710
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: to give me the money for the second album. So

711
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: I knew. I also had a clause in my deal

712
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: where they was going to have to spend a certain

713
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: amount of marketing dollars by a certain amount of time,

714
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: and they were dragging their feet, so I used that

715
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: clause to negotiate my way out of it. I was like, listen,

716
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: y'all don't want you know, y'all don't want to do this.

717
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, bro, they they're not fucking

718
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: with you, and you signed me, so they not fucking

719
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: with me. And you know, long story short. You know,

720
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: in a year's time, Larry was out.

721
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: Of there too because.

722
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: They wasn't fucking with him. They were trying to figure

723
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: out his way out of you know, his exit out

724
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: of the deal as well. But I was able to

725
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: negotiate my masters. I own my masters. So if any

726
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: of you kids want to us, look up she worked

727
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: the trouble, sample it. I'll clear it. I want one hundred, No,

728
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I want I take ninety. I'll take ninety percent and

729
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: give y'all ten. But if you take the whole thing,

730
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: but I might negotiate something else. But I own it

731
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: if you guys would like to sample it. And I

732
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to own me. Buying my Masters cost me

733
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: an additional half a million dollars. I got a half

734
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: a million dollars less to own myself and for me,

735
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: I didn't care what I did with it. I didn't

736
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: want nobody to own me, not no more. I didn't

737
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: want to be owned. I didn't you know, I didn't

738
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: want them to be to be able to ever put

739
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: anything out because they would they would have the right to, and.

740
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: You get cracking somewhere else, like, Okay, we still got

741
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 3: these masters, and I wasn't gonna still be a singer ship.

742
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just don't want them niggas to own me.

743
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: I got one out, so I brought myself out. They

744
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: still had to give me an additional bag. I still

745
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: got my other bag, but I own my masters, O

746
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: my masters. So I got out of that deal. And

747
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: then we started song Dynasty.

748
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: Hey, we went on and we went on our run.

749
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: It's when the big Bucks. It was about a year

750
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: or so in between, you know, until we started song

751
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: US three obviously in our guy text h and we

752
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: got rolling. Man, that was the best time in my life. Guys.

753
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: I want you guys to know that we have absolutely

754
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: like because again I'll say all the other times, no

755
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: one paid me any money. Durell and j maytrade and

756
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. Love deal.

757
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

758
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I too started before the Underdogs, and I didn't get

759
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: one penny, not one And we did the whole record

760
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: that got his his his record deal, and I didn't

761
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: get a penny, but I was doing some stuff and

762
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: all the real baps over there.

763
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, Bobby, just come on, man, just come

764
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: come right with me.

765
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: Man. And the first record that we wrote was uh

766
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: under what was the first record we worked together? And

767
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: we got nominated, and then him and the Valentine started

768
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: putting their minds together. Next thing, you know, we got

769
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: a studio on Recita. We got everybody coming through. That

770
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: thing was racking.

771
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: I was god a little bit of money then, you

772
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: know what.

773
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And they looked they bought him off the shelf,

774
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: and the rest is history. Champ, you know what I'm saying.

775
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: And so I never got to tell you what this

776
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: guy negotiated my deal and he didn't ask for one. Henny,

777
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: And he's one of the only guys in the music

778
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: business that I can say if he tells you he's

779
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: gonna do something, he does it. I had an independent record.

780
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: He said, I'm I'm a producer when we first met,

781
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm a producer. Record on you. We actually used Jamie

782
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: Fox's studio and he produced a song on me for nothing.

783
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: There aren't guys like that in the business that do

784
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And then when we got

785
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: to he said, Bobby, I'm gonna help you eat. That's

786
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: the one thing about Darrel Batch's table. Everybody's gonna eat.

787
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Everybody eat, everybody's gonna eat.

788
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: And so I never got a chance to tell you

789
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 2: I love you for that, bro, You know what I mean.

790
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm happy I get to tell you in front of

791
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: the whole world, Chap, I love you for.

792
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: It, because everybody else talk a good talk, but there's.

793
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: No action behind it. Sure you know what I'm saying.

794
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: And so what y'all put together got a change. You know,

795
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: I got to turn into Bobby Cash. You know. Now

796
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: I'm you know what I'm saying. I got ten grand

797
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: in my pocket all the time. I'm walking around with

798
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: my shades, you know, in the dark. You know what

799
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying in the dark, you know. And so we,

800
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: like you said, we started producing everybody. We writing songs

801
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: for everybody. We we got real placements happening, we got

802
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: real checks. I got a chance to really see what

803
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: it was like. This nigga been getting it forever, but

804
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 2: for me, because I got twelve kids.

805
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, a lot of this stuff.

806
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: Well I got, but it feels like so I was like, God, damn,

807
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you do that today?

808
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: So for me, you know what I'm saying, like it

809
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: that was, that was when it became real for me,

810
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I was so happy

811
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: to do it with y'all and that was that was

812
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: an amazing time.

813
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Man.

814
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: So, Jay, I want to take a turn because you know,

815
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: I think everybody most people understand you know you as

816
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: a singer. Most people understand you as a songwriter, as

817
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: a producer, but people don't really know the business side

818
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: of of what you do, where you actually left the

819
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: creative side and went behind the wall and became a

820
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: suit as we call them, not quite a suit, but

821
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: you went into that space and became, you know what

822
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: I mean, an executive and you you became a consultant

823
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: in all of these things. I want you to tell

824
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: people about that experience and and and and what you learned,

825
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: what you gained from being on that side of the business.

826
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I learned that it's it's not designed for us to

827
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: get wealthy. We can get rich. They let us get rich.

828
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: But I learned that it wasn't designed that way. It

829
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: was designed for us to you know, get enough money

830
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: to eventually need them again. Hmm. And for me, I

831
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: didn't like that part. I didn't like that artists didn't know.

832
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: So now I'm part of conversations and hearing about deal

833
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: points that artists never know about, that only lawyers and

834
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: executives talk about, and we're just really part of the

835
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: trade off. I became the spook next to the door

836
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: who sat next to the door. I became that literally,

837
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: like I put on a full costumes as a suit,

838
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: and I stopped being on the creative side for so

839
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: long that they entrusted me to now start learning all

840
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: of the you know, the inner working yeah, and how

841
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: the music business really works, and how what the dollar

842
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: really means in the music business and how to get

843
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: to it, and how you don't have to be famous,

844
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: and how you don't have to have a hit record.

845
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Just got to make the right moves, you gotta you know,

846
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: have your hands in the right things. And that that

847
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: became my mission, is to one educate, but to also

848
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: be really successful on that side, so that I could

849
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: be some form of a you know, an ally to us,

850
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: because I feel like I feel like I am split

851
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: in two sides from the music business standpoint of I'm

852
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: half artists, I'm half businessman. It's just who I am.

853
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: It's just what I am. And sometimes I do too

854
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: much business and it stops me from being creative. But

855
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: I make sure that our business is in line, and

856
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: whoever I'm in business with understands it if they want

857
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: to do it or not. You know, you can't force

858
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: people to do the business right. And I've had some

859
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: people who didn't want to do the business right, and

860
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: that's fine. But you know, I think that's why you

861
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: and I have locked in for so long, because you

862
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: trusted me, you trusted my business mind, and you went

863
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: to bat for me when people didn't believe that I

864
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: could do that. But you knew it, you know, because

865
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: we had you know, we had set so many times

866
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: and went over business and you understood, like, oh this

867
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: nigga knows something. He got it, you know what I mean.

868
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: And for me, I was just like, I'm just gonna

869
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: work my hardest and what I don't know, I'll say

870
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'll consult with people and I'll

871
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: learn absolutely. And I've just always been willing to learn,

872
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: and I've never you know, I've never put up a

873
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: facade that you know I knew something that I didn't.

874
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: It's shit, I don't know.

875
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: You know.

876
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: You remember you call me about some shit, I'll be like, cheap,

877
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: I'll call you.

878
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 3: I was just I'll call you right back, call me

879
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: back thirty minutes later. All right, So here's why we

880
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 3: should do this. Now, here's the point number one, eight

881
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: and then nine and ten. Then but if we don't

882
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: do it, then we could go back. I'm like this, nigga,

883
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: where did you get nigga? I'm gonna figure it out.

884
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 3: Figure it out?

885
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: So what's crazy? Listening to him?

886
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: Right?

887
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: And now, this is Jada Man. Obviously I know him

888
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: as Jays the kid too, right and the nigga hated school.

889
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking all the house, Jane, show up to school today.

890
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: You want to play basketball? But he don't want to

891
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: go to school, right. And so when I listen to

892
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,479
Speaker 2: him talking, right, and I'm giving him his flowers right now,

893
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: when I listen to him talking, and you just realize

894
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: how smart he is. But he is very well read.

895
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of people don't know, which

896
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: is crazy. Every single day, he's very well read, which

897
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: is why he's well spoken, so you get these sides

898
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: of him where you're like, oh, the nigga likes getting

899
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: me from the hood, you know what I'm saying. But

900
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: he can also dress it up and take it to

901
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: be an executive. Most people can't do that, you know

902
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and have a real conversation with you,

903
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: like you said, call you, give you deal points, give

904
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, he been in the

905
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: game for so long, you know what I mean. And

906
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: now he's a prodigy of business. He's a prodigy of

907
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: making records. He's a prodigy ass you know what I'm saying,

908
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: like cause he again, he has the first record. So

909
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: where me and you started a little later, he started

910
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: at ten, you know what I mean. And to me,

911
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: that's his advantage. But again, it's the biggest thing that

912
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: he said his whole time, I've been learning, you know

913
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I've been learning. I've been taking it

914
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: all in, you know what I mean. And so I'm

915
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: from me to you, bro, like I just I watch

916
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: you and you know, I'm so proud bro, for real, No,

917
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: I want you to know that, my nigga, like because

918
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: the other thing is that the news have is we

919
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: all have the round new factor. So when we walking around, like,

920
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: what I know is that all the label people love him.

921
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: They love him. You know what I'm saying, from the

922
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: lawyers to the executives, to the artists, to the everyone.

923
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: I can't play golf, but I can golf.

924
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: You hear that.

925
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: I say it again.

926
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: I can't play.

927
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: Golf, all right, don't play golf, but I can go.

928
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: I can go Hello, Hello, because that's where it's made at.

929
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: That's what happens at.

930
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: So y'all.

931
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say to you, brother, and not

932
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: even just so it's the business side, but so and

933
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: I want to say this to him too, like singing wise, right,

934
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: we didn't come up like you in the church. We

935
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: came up like on some boy bands. You know, just

936
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: be honest, boy Bend's don'b mothers now they can't really sing. Yeah,

937
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: this nigga is like the ghetto baby face.

938
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: This ship is so sweet.

939
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: And I want to say that to him because we

940
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: never talk about it. Bro. When I said, I love

941
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: your voice, bro, like and what you've done and what

942
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: you've become and like me, like us, we got around

943
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: niggas like you. We got around the church and men

944
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: him was looking at each other like, hold on, man,

945
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: that's singing straight. Ship ain't gonna do it.

946
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: We gotta figure out because we competitive.

947
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that's every time, like we'll practice till

948
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: it can till we can do it. Yeah, And we

949
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: got that from around to practice. Michael Jackson wrote that

950
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: for us on the on the eight by ten practice.

951
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: That just makes perfect, you know what I'm saying. And

952
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: we had already had that mindset anyway. So get back

953
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: to you, bro, But I just wanted you all the bro,

954
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: all of it, even what he's done with you, bro,

955
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: because you know I was, I was singing background for you. Yeah.

956
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: It was nasty.

957
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: It was getting nasty. I was looking at Ja, let's

958
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: call it Ja. One day I said, look, Jay, I

959
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: really want to do this. He was like, yeah, niggas.

960
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: I said, nigga, I'm about to let everybody go. It's

961
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: just gonna be me and you and we're gonna figure

962
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: this shit out from the ground up.

963
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: Because again, tank, everybody want to everybody eat. Some people

964
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: taking advantage of that, you know what I mean, They

965
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: take advantage of this. Now you got a good heart

966
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: and people take advantage.

967
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: So let me get with my cousins, nigga, because it

968
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: was like, it's it's it's you know, you just just

969
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: run into long lost family members. You know what I'm saying.

970
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: It's it's it's something in the universe. It's like these niggas.

971
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 3: I'm related to these niggas some kind of way I

972
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: have to the relationships I have to be. And so

973
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: that right, that that that family connection was the bond

974
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: that made it easy, made it second nature to do business,

975
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Because it's the trust, that's

976
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 3: where it starts.

977
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Right. So Jay, you go from child star. We didn't.

978
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: We didn't.

979
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: We didn't get to you till you sold a bike.

980
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: But you used to sell bikes business. I started bike business, yea,

981
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: selling drugs. Statute of limitations. They it's all gone. Not

982
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: a lot of not a lot of drugs. But I

983
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: didn't sell enough for y'all to come back. Relax, Okay,

984
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: two artists, Back to songwriter hiphie, you know hiphee move

985
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: the hypee movement. Maybe back to artists again. Done with artists,

986
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: then back to the business producers behind the wall as

987
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: an executive, then tanks manager, but before I was your manager,

988
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: I was consulting. You were consulting, Yeah, I was consulting.

989
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 3: And the consulting started with obviously helping Brian Kennedy get

990
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: his his publishing deal. That was kind of like one

991
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 3: of my first you know, jumps into that. But then

992
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: when I realized I really wanted to.

993
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: Be in the music business, I was like, I gotta

994
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: fine artist. I gotta you know, and d named Love

995
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: Rants mm hmm, my guy, I Love Ran had a

996
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,479
Speaker 1: big record and at the time it wasn't it wasn't

997
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: it was bubbling. It was bubbling in the bay and

998
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: it was called Up I Beat the Pussy Up Up Smash,

999
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: and it was the first listen for me. And the

1000
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: wildest thing is that his brother and I were high

1001
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: school teammates until and I didn't know that at the time.

1002
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was his little brother until one

1003
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: day we ran into each other at Deuce's Deuce's birthday.

1004
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: I was happening at the bowling alley our Auntie used

1005
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: to own a bowling alley. Out to Diane. Also shout

1006
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: out to Diane because Diane took me and Bobby and.

1007
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: No, she she said, his life formative years. She said

1008
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: his life.

1009
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: She saved my life.

1010
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: I love that we came one day, like, Jay, this

1011
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: hood ship's over, man, come with us when we're in

1012
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: Diamond Heights, man ship sweet over here.

1013
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: It's really nice there. It was different. Do it taste

1014
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: different when the street? It was different? Yeah. So you know,

1015
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: Diane was a lifesaver. She was. She was absolutely a lifesaver.

1016
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: So she owned a bowling alley. And I was having

1017
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: h Deuce's birthday party. I think he might have been

1018
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: four or something, and my Tail and his family just

1019
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: happened to be there. And he's talking to me about

1020
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: his little brother in music. And I'm like, okay, you

1021
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: know niggas talk to me about music all the time.

1022
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, bro, he got this record. It's

1023
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: called Up. I'm like, it's called what? Like uh? I'm

1024
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: like he's like, we're talking about this at my son's

1025
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: birthday party. They're like, yeah, that's my little brother. I'm like,

1026
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: hell nah, Like Nigga, that's my little brother. I want

1027
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: to connect y'all whatever. I'm like, Nigga, come on connected us.

1028
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: I started co managing him with my Tail. We managed

1029
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: him together. They don't have no deal, they have nothing

1030
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: going on. I'm like, listen, bro I said, it's big,

1031
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: but there are a couple, you know, people grabbing a

1032
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: record around the country, people just you know, kind of

1033
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: just taking the record nobody really need. So it starts

1034
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: to become that thing. I'm like, lo, listen, let's I'm

1035
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna fuck all those up. I'm gonna shut every remix down.

1036
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: It was how I was like, we're gonna do the

1037
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: R and B version. I said, so I'm gonna get

1038
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Pleasure Pee on it. That was the

1039
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: first make a pe you know, Pete fresh off of

1040
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: under y'all. Yeah, I mean he got pretty ricky. So

1041
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: I get Pee on the record. I leave the last

1042
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: verse open because Rants and I am Sue who produced

1043
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: the record. I am Sue. I left them verses open

1044
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: so they could do their verses. It was gonna be me,

1045
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: them and Pleasure p right at the time. You know,

1046
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: through whatever they had going on, they fell out. So

1047
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: when I send both of them the version with me

1048
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: singing the hook, actually I don't even send them the

1049
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: version with Pe on it. I sent it just me

1050
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: singing a hook and my verse. It was my first

1051
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: no no, just me singing the hook. It was supposed

1052
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: to be just me singing a hook with them with

1053
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: new verses, no new artist yet or new other other artists.

1054
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm like thinking the R and B version because now

1055
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: was singing like you know what I mean, and Drake

1056
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: had I think, just came out around that time. I'm like,

1057
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: Nigga just singing rap shit like that vibe Nigga, we

1058
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: gonna kill him. And I flipped the hook to what

1059
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: it became the new version of Up with open verses.

1060
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: Them niggas don't do their verses because they fell off.

1061
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: So they're like, and the song is cracking rants doing shows.

1062
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm telling y'all, I said, man, if y'alln't

1063
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: do y'all verses, I'm putting somebody else on it. This

1064
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: is just like my fake threat. Niggas don't do their verses.

1065
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: I get pleasure to Peter do a verse his verse killer.

1066
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: Now I do a verse my verse killer. I'm like, Nigga,

1067
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: we got some shit. I go to Vegas, I have

1068
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: the record, I give it to DJ Franz and friends

1069
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: and plays it. We had a suite at the at

1070
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: the at the Palms, the basketball. Guess who walks in

1071
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: Tiger and Chris Brown. So my little brother, you know

1072
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: what I'm since he was fourteen fifteen. You're like, Nigga,

1073
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: what's this? I said, Nigga, this record going crazy in

1074
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: the bay. This the R and V version with me.

1075
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: He said, Nigga, I'm doing it tomorrow. I said, doing

1076
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: what the song? Nigga, I got the American Music Awards rehearsal,

1077
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: and I'm coming to y'all studio just when we still

1078
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: got the studio and now we're a track record. I'm

1079
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: thinking he lying, he know he Nigga calls me, big bro,

1080
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: start writing my verse for me. Just start the verse

1081
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: off like all this Nigga's really coming. No fucking bullshit,

1082
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: you coming, Nigga Chris Brown verse. We hadn't done those

1083
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: songs like that. I mean, like Nigga, I'm like, Nigga's

1084
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: the king.

1085
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 4: Fuck it.

1086
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: Nigga pulls up in one of his fast cars, a

1087
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: Lambo or something, pulls up and hop out like what

1088
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: you got? I got part of the verse. Now I'm

1089
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: coming to boot and I love that shit. We knocked

1090
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: that shit out in ten fifteen minutes. I'm engineering and

1091
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: watching the basketball game and this at the same time

1092
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: you're writing he knocked that shit out. I'm like, it's

1093
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: never about It's not gonna be the same. I call

1094
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: both of them niggas. I say, hey, bro, Chris Brown

1095
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: just got on the record. They're like, what we putting

1096
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: it out tomorrow fast? Put that motherfucker out once again.

1097
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: Don't register it, don't do the whole thing, because it's

1098
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: all spinds today for them. Every label's calling, everybody wants

1099
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: a piece of the record. Jimmy IV, Larry Jackson calls me, nephew, Yeah, yeah,

1100
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: what's this record? Nephew, Yeah, Like that's fucking up records

1101
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: going crazy. I said, yeah, you know, because he had

1102
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: heard my verse, but he didn't know I was representing

1103
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: him too. I'm like, no, nigga, I did that to

1104
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: boost up the attention and a knock out all of

1105
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: these other remixes that are around the country. They're like, oh, nigga,

1106
01:02:54,600 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: when can y'all come to l A. I was like, now, nigga, go,

1107
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: we take our meeting at Jimmy Ivan's house. We go

1108
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: to the home, play him the record, play him the

1109
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: rest of the shit that he got. He loved it.

1110
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: Go crazy, like, man, whatever y'all want to do. He's like,

1111
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: whatever y'all want to do. So at first the conversation

1112
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: was to take once again, take those verses off and

1113
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: make it the R and B version mixed with the

1114
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: rap version, because the other version. I've been moving in

1115
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: the streets anyway. And I'm like, nah, this is his record, man,

1116
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: this is what I say. I'm like, nah, this is

1117
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: his record. This is not my record. This is love

1118
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: Rance's record. We're doing the deal for his record. I

1119
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: was like, all right, we want the record regardless. So

1120
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're gonna sign him. We're not doing a

1121
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: singles deal. You're getting him a full album budget. We're

1122
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: doing a full album. I'm not letting y'all just single

1123
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: deal him. We do a four hour budget, full bag

1124
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: in his pocket. And Larry says, I got an idea.

1125
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put fifty cent on it. I said, we're

1126
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: out of here. We're fucking out of here with side. Yeah,

1127
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I said, oh my god. When you come

1128
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: to San Francisco. He does the video, he tries to

1129
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: get in the room with the with the guys to

1130
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: help them put they thing back together. The group the HBK.

1131
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: It don't work. They don't listen to him, you know.

1132
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: And that was my first stamp into the you know,

1133
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: the executive side. And after that, I have an end.

1134
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm an I'm a I'm a consultant at the label,

1135
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: and I'm managing, and I'm doing my whole thing that

1136
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: you know that don't fully materialize for him, but to

1137
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 1: get him a big bag. And he's still making money

1138
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: to this day. And then one night I'm up at

1139
01:04:55,040 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: like three in the morning and these kids up on

1140
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: my YouTube because I'm I'm looking at I'm watching World

1141
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: Star Hip Hop, and it's this kid on there talking

1142
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: about his daddy and you know how, they're talking Chicago,

1143
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: my daddy, my daddy, my daddy, my daddy, and I'm

1144
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: who the fuck are you talking about? He shot at

1145
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: the police and he's talking about He's talking crazy like

1146
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: my daddy.

1147
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: Cheep Keith.

1148
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: Who the fuck is Chief Keith? So my ass nigga,

1149
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: I start googling, I'm start going into ship. I'm typing

1150
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: Chief Keith. Nothing's coming up. So now I have to

1151
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: type yeah into the film side Keith Keith because he

1152
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: keeps saying it with f yeah. So I'm like, okay, okay,

1153
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: Keith k f k e K nigga. I'm just I'm

1154
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: finding it. So I find it, nigga. But they reminded

1155
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: me of Double Rock. So I'm like, Nigga, I gotta

1156
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: find this kid. Actually, I got to save it in

1157
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: my computer and take it to Larry in the morning

1158
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: because I'm like, it's in the Scope records. This is

1159
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: fifty cent, this is doctor Trey, it's Jimmy Ivan. He

1160
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: understands it's eminem anything dangerous. So I'm like, next morning,

1161
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: I take the ship to Larry. He loses it. He's like, man,

1162
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: So we find our way to Chief Keep. We do

1163
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: the Chief Keep deal, and I'm like, the rap world

1164
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: ain't just it ain't for me. It was just too

1165
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: much going on. It was too much shit involved. I

1166
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: actually never made a dollar off for Chief Keep, off

1167
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: for getting that deal done off of a consulting an

1168
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: R nothing. I just you know, and I you know,

1169
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: I hung out with Keey for that first week and

1170
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: I never seen him really ever again, but you know,

1171
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: helped put him, help put the deal together, put it

1172
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: in place with you know, he had his uncle Roe

1173
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: and and dro and Peter Pan and all the you know,

1174
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: the guys that were working with him, and he became

1175
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: a fucking legend, absolutely, and it was a way for

1176
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: me to, you know, ultimately put some numbers on the

1177
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: board and become, you know, this kind of this best

1178
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: kept secret guy that had my ear to the streets

1179
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: because now I got two chief Keef Love rants like that,

1180
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: ships Cracking. And then I did that big ass record

1181
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: with the Rebix, and then they wanted me to sing

1182
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: and then I said no. In the height of up

1183
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: It's like, nah, I'm cool. I want to be a manager,

1184
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: you know.

1185
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: But you got to tell him. But you got to

1186
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: tell him this too, though, because you know, fifty came

1187
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: to him and was like, bro, you should just take

1188
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: the record. And he said no.

1189
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people, a lot of people said,

1190
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: but I'm saying.

1191
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: How many people would have done that?

1192
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: Though?

1193
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: I ran the record back in New York, this West

1194
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: Coast record.

1195
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: How many times in a row? What's that hot station

1196
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: out there?

1197
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 2: New York?

1198
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: One of them?

1199
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: It back multiple times. He calls him like, hey, bro,

1200
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 2: just should just take the record. I'll sign you. He's like, no,

1201
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: that's not my record.

1202
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't my record. You know what I'm saying. And

1203
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because a lot of people look

1204
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: at those type of things like, oh, well Jay did

1205
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: this and you grabbed that record in that record, But

1206
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: I never registered nobody's record. I never you know, took

1207
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: any money out of anybody's pocket that they were supposed

1208
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 1: to get. I was just having fun with music, and

1209
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: especially with the love NDS thing. I knew I needed

1210
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: to help it take you know what I mean, But

1211
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: I did, You know, I didn't. I didn't want to,

1212
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to, you know, just take

1213
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: it further. At that time, I wanted to fully be

1214
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: taken serious from an executive side. And you know, now

1215
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: you had chosen like when you choose your lane, you

1216
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: you're there. I'm there because we've been trying to get you,

1217
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: like you have plenty records where we were like this,

1218
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: what are we doing?

1219
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: Naay, let's go right.

1220
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: But I also felt like if I do that at

1221
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: that time, especially with song Dynasty, who's gonna protect us?

1222
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: Because we had tried managers, we had tried different people

1223
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: that were you know, involved in our business, but I

1224
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: always felt like nobody cared about us like us. Yeah,

1225
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: So I had to, in a sense, sacrifice that side

1226
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: of my life to put us in a position to

1227
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: really win. And that's when I start begging you to

1228
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: be a manager.

1229
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm a manager. It's like, you're not just be dropping hints.

1230
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, I kind of already managed you. You're not

1231
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: a manager, Jay, You're my friend. Okay, I didn't know

1232
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,520
Speaker 3: that I've been dropping.

1233
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: For a minute. It's like, see, like I got cracked

1234
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: over here, baby, I know it's wrapped cracking.

1235
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: Take me like, man, that she is cracking over there.

1236
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: We'll bring me in. And that's and that really that

1237
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: really set it up for me, man to you know,

1238
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: be taken serious from a business standpoint. And I just

1239
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: started having more and more conversation with executives and and attention,

1240
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, from Shakie Stewart to you know, Larry Jackson

1241
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: to Ethiopia have to Marry Him, to you know, Tubby

1242
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: to you know, like everybody who would sit Big John

1243
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: Big job. Important for me. I was just I was

1244
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: just listen Ira, Jeffrey, Brian Postell, like those guys were talking.

1245
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: I would listen. I'm learning publishing and I'm learning executive.

1246
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm learning A and R and I'm just whoever would

1247
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: talk to me about it, Jaha, you know what I'm saying. Like,

1248
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm just listening to all of them. And you know

1249
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: when you you would at first, when you would just

1250
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: take me up to Atlantic with you. And I'm listening

1251
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: to Mike Kaiser talk and I'm listening to a Seanna

1252
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: talk and you know, Juliet's talking about radio, and then

1253
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: Craig Kalman comes in with the weird music side and

1254
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, and then Julie walks in and she don't

1255
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,919
Speaker 1: pay me no attention.

1256
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: She just you know, acting like I don't exist. It's

1257
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,839
Speaker 2: all cool because.

1258
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm learning that, Like, Okay, she know her ship, she

1259
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: know these numbers, you know how the movie shit around,

1260
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: Like this is how this music business works. And I'm

1261
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 1: asking lawyers and I meet Damien Granderson and Damien's giving

1262
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: me game and I'm cool, noted. You know, Doug Davis,

1263
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm paying I'm paying attention, bro, Like I am paying

1264
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: attention and as they're talking and I'm doing it for us.

1265
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing it so that when we get to those

1266
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: deal terms, I know what they're talking about and I

1267
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: know what to ask for because the other part is,

1268
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: as we learn with our guy Eric Greenspan, if you

1269
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: don't ask, they won't give it to you. Where are

1270
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: they going to give you that? Because we're going to ask.

1271
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: And Larry Jackson was consulting for us, Larry Jackson for us,

1272
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: the Almighty Larry, Yeah, I think you guys should ask

1273
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: for this. No, and if you just inside, if you

1274
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: just do this, if you just do this, and they'll

1275
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: let you get that. Thanks Larry, Thank you, Larry.

1276
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: Hey, that's why relationships are great.

1277
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: Bro, Like for real. He came with the then when

1278
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: we happened and you changed our lives. Brother, when we

1279
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: called Jay, I have something because he's my ultimate an

1280
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: R right is ere I'm like always his ear is.

1281
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 3: The one I lean. I'm like, Jay, I have something.

1282
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: It's out there, but I just I need you to

1283
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: hear it. And shout out to Cardiac my brother Cardiac.

1284
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to Matt rest us Yeah, and E p

1285
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: l P E p l P about his producer that

1286
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: he had and he did rap oh and Chasing Cast absolutely.

1287
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: Chasing Cast said, hey man, that nigga he it he

1288
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: don't one.

1289
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: I said, can you do? R and B said hell yeah,

1290
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: I could do R and B never done. Send me

1291
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: the goods, nigga, and they send me them tracks. I

1292
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: was in Platinum Sound shout out.

1293
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: To Jerry Wonder, Jerry Wonder, Jerry Wonder, and.

1294
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 3: It just hit me, I said, and I said, when

1295
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: we looking at my jury, I can't think of my

1296
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 3: engineer at the time. My guy uh Asian guy man

1297
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 3: man him used to go back and forth about Floyd

1298
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 3: Mayweather and pack yeall like back, no, no, out of

1299
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 3: the Jerry Wonder spot, and so I look out at him.

1300
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 3: I was like, he's like this. I was like, fuck

1301
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 3: is the only word that works. Broun's the only.

1302
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: Word right in back of my mind. I'm like, gonna

1303
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: kill me. Pressed it up, I said, I said, let

1304
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: me just send this, let me just send this to Ja. Yeah,

1305
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: this was just your idea.

1306
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, j called me back. I did, like, uh,

1307
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: it's a little bit of the verses in there, but

1308
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: the hook was like what I really needed is is

1309
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: his ear on.

1310
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: He was like, nigga, what the fuck are you doing?

1311
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 3: First I said, I said, I said, man, I just

1312
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm just doing what I feel. He said, Nigga, this

1313
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 3: ship is I don't know who gonna play this ship,

1314
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: but this ship jam and I said, yeah, let's go,

1315
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 3: let's go.

1316
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: We wasn't still on tables, still on tables, they believe,

1317
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: still on tables.

1318
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:48,440
Speaker 3: He was making them calls with juliett what we're doing.

1319
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: Nasty Juliet and Joy. Julian and Joy was calling us

1320
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: the nastiest niggas and just but they rocked with us, man,

1321
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: and they fought. They fought for us. Shout to Atlantic

1322
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: to Atlantic Records. For sure. For sure they let us,

1323
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, they let us rock, They let us be us.

1324
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: So yes, So.

1325
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: Since then, now you've had three record deals, You've yeah,

1326
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: you've you've had three records, You've made over a million

1327
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: dollars writing songs, and then you get with this guy

1328
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: and you get your first number one record?

1329
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh as an artist? No, as a well? Was

1330
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: it as a songwriter to that? Yeah? The first number

1331
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: one record? Yeah, not what I mean I had, Yeah,

1332
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: I had. I mean obviously I've been on in sync

1333
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: in that time. Yeah, but yeah, yeah in two facets

1334
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: number one on the radio and yeah, no that was yeah,

1335
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: yeah flight out yeah yeah, And I just you got

1336
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: to keep this in context, like we're from a.

1337
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 2: Small place Bro. Yeah, lightning has struck this food a

1338
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 2: gazillion times and get hit and it's qrazy hard. Okay,

1339
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: yes he does, but Bro, but blood plays a part.

1340
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

1341
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: He found he just told you found chea key. So

1342
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: then the hood side comes up, you know what I'm saying,

1343
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: Like there's an R and B side, there's a hood side.

1344
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so.

1345
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: Many fasts all of it, and a lot of successes

1346
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: come with it. And the backstories, like people don't know

1347
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: this stuff. They don't know you help to find Chief

1348
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: Keith Manage, there's other people major help major.

1349
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah he's healthy and hasn't asked for a penny from

1350
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: these guys. That's the other thing that's amazing.

1351
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: Hmm. Yeah. I really, I really do love the music

1352
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: business like I love music. I love the music business

1353
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: because I understand what the music business can do for people.

1354
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: Because I understand what the music did for us, what

1355
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: the music business did for us, and and people even

1356
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: attached to us. You know, our little cousin, Big Rich,

1357
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: he like the biggest ship in the bay. You know

1358
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He got all kind of gotta you

1359
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: got a label deal with Atlantic. Now he got new

1360
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: artists coming up. You know what I'm saying. You know,

1361
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: like family members who have just they didn't know music

1362
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: before we got in music, you know what I mean,

1363
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: who are fully immersed in it now and fully love it.

1364
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: And I love seeing that. I love being a part

1365
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: of that, and I love being a part of the

1366
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: conversation of like, you know what, man, Jay, you remember when.

1367
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: Did you know what other reason for hdown?

1368
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: I didn't Yeah, the neutrons. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah,

1369
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: that's what they told you, Yes, sir, wow, yes, sir, yes, yes,

1370
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: favorite groups he was going to have.

1371
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: That's that's one of my homies. And he'd be hitting

1372
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: me and he'd be like, bro, y'all didn't he put

1373
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: it up on his grim the other day? Y'all don't

1374
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: know nothing about the New Tribes because him and his

1375
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 2: three guys, Yeah, that was their story, like they were

1376
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: looking at us. You're sometimes you could be an inspiration

1377
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: to people and not even we've been in inspiration to

1378
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: everybody in the Bay Area, like people in our family

1379
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: sing and you just never know what it's going to

1380
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: turn into.

1381
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy. I didn't know that. I didn't

1382
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: know that, But that's why you know, ultimately I've taken

1383
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: the path that I've taken. And what I realized when

1384
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: I when you finally was like, yeah, Jay, from the

1385
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: management side, I just looked at it like he's gonna

1386
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: get us where we gotta go. And I was tired

1387
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: of seeing people not respect you the way I respected you,

1388
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: and I remember you are, you know, the underrated shit

1389
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: in the whole. I'm like, man, fuck all that, nigga.

1390
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be underrated, like nigga you him in my mind.

1391
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, if I got to sacrifice my career

1392
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,520
Speaker 1: for a minute to help him get to this spot,

1393
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: so be it, and we'll get to where we gotta

1394
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: go and then we'll usher in everything we need to

1395
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: from that point on. Speaking of ushering in, it's a

1396
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 1: great segue, yeah, into getting this man finally back behind

1397
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: the microphone and singing more than one song. H So

1398
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: you go number one on slow Yeah yeah, yeah, yeh,

1399
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: You're killed on that record.

1400
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: Because just so you know, every time men, men, Jay,

1401
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: we when we sing with singers, right like which Tank

1402
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: is the singer? You got to ask yourself like did

1403
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 2: I did I do myself justice? Did I was I

1404
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: able to. You know what I'm saying, hang in there?

1405
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: Did I get cooked?

1406
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: Did I get.

1407
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: Call him the next day? I said, Oh, that's what

1408
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: you're doing. I got you.

1409
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 2: You know his pocket, he knows right where he pull pull.

1410
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: The reals back up. Let me sing something. Goddamn right,

1411
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 3: let me sing something. The ship over because he's he

1412
01:19:58,680 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 3: thinking's sweet.

1413
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: Let me see. Hey, nigga took part of my hook out,

1414
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: sang on the hook with me. You you out of control? Back? Yeah?

1415
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he had a tone in the hook that

1416
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: was that was necessary. I said, no, that's what the

1417
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 3: hook should sound. So I gotta go back. I want

1418
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 3: to go back and sound like him. You know what

1419
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like the demo was super, the demo was

1420
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: out of control, but when he sang the hook, it

1421
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,440
Speaker 3: was a different type of urgency.

1422
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, bro. Yeah, tap me on the shoulder and

1423
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: allow me to hop on that record when you know

1424
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: I love the record. When he just came in period,

1425
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 1: it's like, this record is amazing, bro. You should you

1426
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: should sing And he was like, yeah, the only way

1427
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: I'll sing is if you do it too. Yeah, you

1428
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: got you gotta get on this get on this record.

1429
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, let's go all right, let me let

1430
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: me You know, I already know the song because I've

1431
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: been listening to it.

1432
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: You know all the parts, and it's squire Boy, quiet

1433
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 2: boy now I'm quiet boy, right.

1434
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I appreciate that, and I think the you know,

1435
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 3: you know what people need to know the importance of

1436
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 3: all of that is that it's for me. It's been

1437
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: a hell of a row back for you. Yeah, it's

1438
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 3: all been about timing, and more importantly, it's been about

1439
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: your time when it felt right for you, when it

1440
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 3: made sense for you, and coming off of that slow record,

1441
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: it couldn't have been any more perfect for you to

1442
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 3: be ready to have your own project and moment back

1443
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 3: as an artist, because you're like, I mean, you know,

1444
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: you look like my son, but you are Uncle Tank.

1445
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 3: I'm Uncle Tank. Like you're like, it's still fresh and

1446
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: and and new. Watching the comments and the commentary around hious,

1447
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: it's still I mean, it's hilarious. It's crazy, Like I

1448
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 3: find it hilarious. It's brand new. First of all, since

1449
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: the podcast is doing so crazy, everybody's like, when was

1450
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 3: somebody gonna tell me the podcast? Nigga can say, when

1451
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: was somebody gonna say that, right. The podcast was the

1452
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: full introduction. The podcast was like the introduction to the mind. Yeah,

1453
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 3: but now they're getting introduced to the gift, you know

1454
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, and it's it's so crazy because

1455
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 3: it's like, in my mind, I've always known that that

1456
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 3: revelation would create that type of energy, and I've just

1457
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 3: been like impatiently waiting for for for you to come

1458
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: around and be ready to do it.

1459
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: And now and now it's time.

1460
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of you know what I knew when we

1461
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 2: did the job to Sy when we remade the song yeah,

1462
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: and he was on that thing like, by the way,

1463
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: those are our heroes, and we remade the record that

1464
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: he was on there, I was God, that's when I knew.

1465
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, his tone is so crazy, speaking

1466
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 2: of when did you what made you decide to be like, Okay,

1467
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back to being an artist. I'm gonna

1468
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 2: come back, you know through a project.

1469
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: On the other side, I felt like I had something

1470
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: to say. I needed something to say, right because everything

1471
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: for me and you guys both noticed like I don't

1472
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: do things that don't have a purpose for me. So

1473
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: I felt like I had something to say, and you know,

1474
01:23:54,720 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: I felt like Tank had done enough for us. It

1475
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 1: was put me in coach time. You know. It was

1476
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: no seriously like I felt like, damn like Tank is

1477
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: because you know, I've watched what Tank has done for

1478
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: us at R and B money and what he's built

1479
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: and what we've built on Tanks back, and I'm like,

1480
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: I can help him with that, you know what I mean,

1481
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Like I can help him with that. I think for

1482
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: me it was just more so how I help him,

1483
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: because a big part was I didn't just want to

1484
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: be known as a singer like I wanted to be

1485
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: known for my mind. That was very important for me.

1486
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be I hate to use this term,

1487
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to be a dumb blonde. I

1488
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to be that as they love to treat

1489
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 1: artists that way. They love to treat artists like the

1490
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: dumb blonde. And I was like, I need them to

1491
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: respect my mind first for me, and I felt like

1492
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: I had gotten to that point. I have. I'm here

1493
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: now where even just not even just in the music business,

1494
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: people that you know come up to me from the

1495
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: power cast. It's like, man, you know, you give so

1496
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 1: much information man, So you know your thoughts and the

1497
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: way you look at business and how you go about it. Man,

1498
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: I just respect it. And I'm like, that's enough for me.

1499
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: That is truly enough for me for people to have

1500
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: a different outlook of Oh you got some pretty hair

1501
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: and you can sing? You know what I mean? You know?

1502
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, it's time to I

1503
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: got that respect that I wanted, So now it's time

1504
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: for me to get back into, you know, the feel

1505
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 1: that I've always loved and I've put on hold for

1506
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: different reasons, but just I mean, and I.

1507
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 2: Can't wait for everybody to hear the music. Because his

1508
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: older brother he played it for me fire, and I

1509
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: honestly looked at him and I said, bro, you found it,

1510
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1511
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: You know this was a lot of people don't know

1512
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: as an artist, like you're always looking for it? Like

1513
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: what am I? Who am I?

1514
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 2: How do I define who I am? Through my.

1515
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 1: Story?

1516
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: And other times when he had other deals, you could

1517
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: tell he was still trying to figure himself out.

1518
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that I was trying to figure myself

1519
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 1: out out. It was a hustle. Mmkay, was getting too

1520
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: a bag, okay, And I wasn't turning it down, Okay,

1521
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was really you know,

1522
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: like I said, I think I'm down. I'm down a

1523
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: quarter million with city boys. I got to get that back.

1524
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm trying to write for other people before I get

1525
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: into that electric deal, you know what I mean. Obviously

1526
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 1: our deal was I'm a baby, but I was. It

1527
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: was never about me. It was never about like, oh,

1528
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm focused on this. It was like somebody heard a demo,

1529
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I did a mixtape record, I did a street record

1530
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Now people just want to be

1531
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: in business with me what I got. I never had

1532
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: a time to make my album, and this time I did.

1533
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: It's special.

1534
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: This time I did. And I mean, since we only,

1535
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: I might as well announced what the name of the

1536
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: album is going to be. It's called Conversations with Women

1537
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And that's what this album is. It's literally

1538
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: conversations with women. It's from every aspect. It's not like

1539
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 1: a relationship thing. It's relationships absolutely platonic, romantic, whatever they

1540
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: may be. And that's what this album is about. It's

1541
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: about me listening because a lot of it needs to

1542
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: me speaking from what they told me, even from a

1543
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: friendship standpoint. I'm not gonna say what the single is yet.

1544
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: You know the single will drop. What the album is called.

1545
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: The album is called Conversations with Women, and that's what

1546
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: it is.

1547
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 2: So let me ask you.

1548
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: So when he starts singing, are you now going to

1549
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 1: start managing? Listen?

1550
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 3: Man, listen man, we're all hands on deck, hands on deck,

1551
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 3: we are whatever's needed.

1552
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Have you met take the management.

1553
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Derail man?

1554
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: You know we set it up.

1555
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 3: It's oh, it's like and it's crazy. It's like, if

1556
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 3: it's one thing that you can learn from, is this

1557
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 3: community some way or another. Everybody within that community has

1558
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 3: a job as a job and a function and they working.

1559
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: That's how we got to treat our community. Whoever next,

1560
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 3: whoever the next, and now it is time for him

1561
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 3: to go. You've got to fall in line and figure

1562
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 3: out what the position is to get that where it

1563
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 3: needs to be. That's that's the only way it works.

1564
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: It can't be like almost got over a little bit,

1565
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 3: Let me get some of that. It can't it can't

1566
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 3: be that. It's got to be how do how do

1567
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 3: we focus? Hyper focus and get it there. Yeah, and

1568
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 3: then we have Now we got two monsters. Then we

1569
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 3: go get the third, then we go get the fourth,

1570
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 3: and before you know it, we are who we said,

1571
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 3: we are, who we are who.

1572
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: We said R money.

1573
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just I'm happy and proud that you

1574
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 3: know that you're in this space, that you're back in

1575
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 3: this space. And because you know, I don't, I don't

1576
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 3: say it lightly or you know, or say it from

1577
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 3: a space of.

1578
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Well, I am partial to you.

1579
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just naturally just what it is, but

1580
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 3: really cold and most of the nigs out I appreciate

1581
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 3: it in real life, really are and so it's needed

1582
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 3: to help restore the balance. Yeah, we don't mind the bullshit,

1583
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 3: but this real ship has to also measure up, you

1584
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1585
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not performing in what I want to the

1586
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: story in because I'll be flying at the store too though,

1587
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: if you catch me at the grocery store, I got

1588
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: some ship on. But that stage is something different. This

1589
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: chair right now is something different. You know, these are fabrics.

1590
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Talk about it, you know what I mean, It's just

1591
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: shi It is not a game. It's not a game.

1592
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: Because if they can't dress up as you for Halloween.

1593
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: You are not a star. You're not a star. Again,

1594
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: if they cannot dress up as you for Halloween, you

1595
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: are not a Star's a young man. You might need

1596
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: to unbutton another one. So it gets to a certain

1597
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 1: level mm hmm, and they understand what it is. It's crazy.

1598
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be me for that of times. They always

1599
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: day too. You always say that, And and that's one

1600
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: of the things I look at when I'm looking at artists.

1601
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1602
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 3: This group hit me the other day and I was like, man,

1603
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 3: listen to our song. Listen to listen to this song.

1604
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 3: And I watched the video if you if you send

1605
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 3: me something out hear, I listen to it and you don't.

1606
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 3: You might might not know I do, but I do.

1607
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: And I listened to the song song what's jamming? Niggas

1608
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 3: can sing? But they look like for random niggas. I'm like,

1609
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,759
Speaker 3: y'all are a group? Yeah, if you haven't learned anything

1610
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 3: from Jagged Edge, from Once Twice, show Boys Boys to Men,

1611
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 3: All Great Things, Drew Hill.

1612
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:49,799
Speaker 1: One twelve, like next next like come on, man, look.

1613
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 3: Like truth got to be some uniform look like group

1614
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 3: look like you know each other, look like you spent

1615
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 3: time together to find those outfits. Yeah, and that's just

1616
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: from the generation that we came up in. But the

1617
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 3: dell find come Jackson, come on. All great things we're

1618
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 3: talking about.

1619
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 1: There's a formula, the wispers, the whispers, first real player ship,

1620
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: there's a formula.

1621
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Look at what your has on.

1622
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: I hope they see it. That's R and B money.

1623
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 2: That's all kind of money.

1624
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: We can't take it with us, right, nigga about two

1625
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:29,839
Speaker 1: hundred thousand.

1626
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 3: You gotta understand, like, especially in the business that we in,

1627
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 3: we got us, we're selling something entertainment, entertainment. I don't

1628
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 3: want to look like your next door neighbor.

1629
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I can't. I want your next door neighbor to feel like, damn,

1630
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: I gotta look like that so she'll pay me attention.

1631
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: There's that. I gotta put that on its levels. It's

1632
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: les levels, it's levels, it's levels, and those levels have

1633
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: to be represented if we're gonna get back to our

1634
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: true space of dominance, and that's what we are. The way,

1635
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: and that's what you want. You're on the way, the way,

1636
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: on the way. Hold on, man, she got man, I.

1637
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 2: Get the full treatment.

1638
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: He going to the I think I got the I

1639
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: have the longest episode of all time, all time. Listen.

1640
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: And you know why they can edit whatever they want

1641
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: because it is the introduction of Valentine. I appreciate that.

1642
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Man.

1643
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 3: It's it's it's enough's enough time. Enough time has gone

1644
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 3: by without people understanding your history. Yeah, that's it, and

1645
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 3: we're going to take as much time as we need

1646
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 3: to make sure they understand what that is.

1647
01:33:53,680 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Sure. In the big game, no, Valentine

1648
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:09,799
Speaker 1: sing a lot of R and B over.

1649
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 2: You.

1650
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: You've watched a lot of rn B. You've heard a

1651
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: lot of.

1652
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 4: R n B your students of this R and B.

1653
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: Game, mm hmm.

1654
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: You have to have.

1655
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 4: The top five.

1656
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Top five.

1657
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: A top five, top five R and B singer lot

1658
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 4: and me song go.

1659
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 3: Valentine's top thought too big top though, I didn't you

1660
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 3: Valentine got of time.

1661
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 2: You Yeah, thank you, bro.

1662
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate I got my time treatment treatment. Yea valent time.

1663
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 1: Your top five R and B singers? Are we going singers? First? Singers?

1664
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: Singers ringers course?

1665
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't prepare, Oh yeah, I can't prepare.

1666
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: I can't prepare. You know you know this the show works. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1667
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 1: but you know a lot goes on during the interview,

1668
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: so sometimes you need to you need to take your note.

1669
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: You understand Shawn Stocking, and my next will tell you

1670
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 1: why I chose Shan Stock, Joe Joe Hayley. They are

1671
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Swiss Army Knights. Anything they can, whatever you want, They're

1672
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna give it to you anything. So I'm starting with

1673
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: those two. Jasmine Sullivant, mm hmm. Jazmine Sullivant.

1674
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 3: They had this thing where, like I guess they have

1675
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 3: this new thing going around, which she was, you know,

1676
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: acting like the rent was due. Yeah, I see, like

1677
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,799
Speaker 3: the rent was due. And she was singing live somewhere

1678
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 3: and she was singing like if I don't if I

1679
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 3: don't sing like this tonight, I'm gonna be home and

1680
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 3: they're gonna cut one of my feets off.

1681
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's how I got because she's she there

1682
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: for me. Whitney Houston. Yeah, voice, the voice, the voice,

1683
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,560
Speaker 1: and my guy number five, I know where you're going, babyface.

1684
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, baby face. Those are my top five for me.

1685
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: And I think if you hear me say about to

1686
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: say that, they all makes sense I can't sing like them.

1687
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: I sing yeah you know what I mean?

1688
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 3: Like those are you are to me? Babyface for sure

1689
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 3: without it. I appreciate that because you can. I appreciate

1690
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: that you make less sound like more. And Babyface is

1691
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 3: the king of that. Oh yeah yeah, if I could

1692
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 3: be half of that, Yeah yeah, you got that. You

1693
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 3: have that that type of gift, all right, mister Valentine.

1694
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 3: The Valentine like to say, that's so eloquently your top

1695
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 3: five R and B songs.

1696
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready. DI didn't love her live live, I'm on.

1697
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 3: Live.

1698
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 1: Just still love her. Lie that scream that that woman does.

1699
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Talk about it, talk about the scream. I need it

1700
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: at some point. I need that scream. You know what

1701
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 1: sucks is now that you didn't got me hooked on

1702
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: any ears. I might not never hear it. I don't

1703
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: hear what's going on in my ears. But I need

1704
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: that scream. So I'm gonna tell him to turn up

1705
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: to the crowd.

1706
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 2: The crowd.

1707
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: I need to have that scream. It's different. I might

1708
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 1: run out there and give her a hug if I

1709
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: hear that scree in real life.

1710
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: I have a feeling you're gonna hear that.

1711
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 3: It's the lady at this girl at the gym, at

1712
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 3: this equinox down in Houston. She wanted to do the

1713
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 3: screen for you. She told me, she said, Hey, when

1714
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 3: you see Ja Valentine, can you tell him that, you know,

1715
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 3: if he needs a second or third wife. Wow, I'm available,

1716
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 3: I cook, I clean, I have my own job, I

1717
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 3: have my more money.

1718
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 2: You know, I'm his brother, so and I'm married, super married,

1719
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 2: and so they get my d ms all about him.

1720
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 4: Can you tell.

1721
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 1: On his line that I'm shooting my shot? Can you

1722
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: all the time?

1723
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 3: All the time, I was like, I'm trying to do

1724
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 3: chest lady, I'm just trying to you know, when you

1725
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 3: when you when you talk to Jay, make sure he

1726
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 3: knows that. Yeah, so distant love her live.

1727
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: You'll get the screen. Untitled.

1728
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 3: You're getting deep into these See what type of time

1729
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 3: can deep deep into the crase Today? I'm tired untitled

1730
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.

1731
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 1: Because I love you, Lenny Williams mm hmmm. It's birth,

1732
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 1: so many right and so many emotions and so many

1733
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 1: it's everything. That record is everything. That record is everything

1734
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: to me. This one's gonna throw y'all prototype that's not.

1735
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 3: Gonna throw and shook me up when I first heard it,

1736
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 3: because I didn't think he should have been able to

1737
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 3: do that. I don't like that he did. Hope that

1738
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:35,440
Speaker 3: you're the one, and if not, you are the prototype.

1739
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 3: I hate that he sang it as a singer. Got

1740
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 3: on my nerves. It sounded great, amazing. Oh the Jesus Christ.

1741
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 3: I hope that you're the one.

1742
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm in love. I think I'm in love. Yeah. Now,

1743
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 1: that record to me is man, it's a it's and

1744
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: it's a classic vote cool yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you

1745
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: know what I love. He really thought about this though. Yeah,

1746
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 1: he's cooking.

1747
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 3: It's a classic. It's a classic R and B vocal. Yeah,

1748
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 3: no rapper has a classic R and B vocal. Right, No,

1749
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 3: that's that's that's it.

1750
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: That's it. That record is is special. And I'm you know,

1751
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: since I am, I would consider myself at heart and

1752
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 1: when I still file taxes, I fiul taxes under songwriter.

1753
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: So I'm going I'm going to do more than five songs,

1754
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 1: and nobody's going to tell me, yeah, go ahead and

1755
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 1: sing it because I ain't going out. I ain't going out.

1756
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 2: I ain't going out because if it's five, Because if

1757
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 2: it's five.

1758
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: Slowly. Oh that's why I be wanting to fight you

1759
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: when you don't, because at that point you're not my

1760
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: brother anymore. I'm a fan. I'm a fan man. I'm

1761
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 1: mad at you for that little snippet on tiny desks.

1762
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 1: You don't disrespect slowly like that, brother, I don't care. No,

1763
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: not not slow not slowly? Slowly's back slowly, bro slowly.

1764
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: You're right, and listen. I'm only going on tour with

1765
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 1: you again. If you sing slowly, I won't go. They

1766
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,759
Speaker 1: be like, why ain't you here? The nigga said he wasn't.

1767
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 2: Saying you say, he ain't gonna go?

1768
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 4: He ain't you know?

1769
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm all right, So I'm gonna do this fast, do

1770
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: this fast, contagious mm hmm. He me and my sisters

1771
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 1: and brothers every family function, we picked the male and

1772
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 1: female parts and we sing contagious at the top of

1773
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 1: our lunges.

1774
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 4: What the hell is going on between?

1775
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 1: I love it?

1776
01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 2: Come on.

1777
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: So contagious, even gonna get into our baby face? Where

1778
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 1: will we? Where will you go?

1779
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 2: Would people don't even know about that while we're there?

1780
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,839
Speaker 1: And break my heart because that's still a babyface.

1781
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 2: Get you.

1782
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: By Daniel Ces the record right there. Man, who would

1783
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: have thought? Who would have thought? I get you? I

1784
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: love those lyrics because I say it all the time,

1785
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: Like I don't write from that perspective, because you know,

1786
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: the girls I've wanted in my life, I've been able

1787
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: to date, and I appreciate them for dating me, but

1788
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: I've never like I love I love dreams, I love

1789
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: your girl. I knew I could never write that record.

1790
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: I've never wanted another niggas girl, So I don't even

1791
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: know how that feels. And that's that's just being very honest,

1792
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Like if you got your girl, nigga, I'm never I'm

1793
01:43:58,400 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: not going to I'm not going to look at her

1794
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: toy nice to meet you. I might hear her, I

1795
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 1: might hear her with a heisman if she tried to hurt,

1796
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 1: but you respect because that's that man's woman. I'm just

1797
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: not that type of I'm not that type of guy,

1798
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't look at it from that

1799
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 1: standpoint honesty. Pink Sweats, I think I saw an ig

1800
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 1: of him singing that he's in front of like he's incredible,

1801
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: four or five, it's incredible. I love that kid. I

1802
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: love that kid. Super Crazy, Summer Walker Body, and fun Girl.

1803
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 1: Fun Girl is about Yeah, Okay, y'all go find Funer

1804
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 1: those who know, and then top twenty My last one,

1805
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: my last one, forever, my lady. Ah hell, and it

1806
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 1: means that much to me, and it means that much

1807
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: to me, and it means that much to me. So

1808
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, I did forty seven thousand songs like

1809
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: these are the people that I love and the music

1810
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: that I love.

1811
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 3: And you know you're keeping me warm, you keep me warm.

1812
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 3: That's time you told your woman she's keeping you warm.

1813
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 3: You keep me warm.

1814
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: Woman. Yeah, if this is ecstasy and probably boys to men's,

1815
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: then you can't leave them out. Oh wow, I'm not

1816
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 1: going with the records. Everybody love. I think that's how you.

1817
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 2: Boys instantly getting something you want to get close to

1818
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 2: your woman.

1819
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Put that on a woman you think might want to

1820
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: get close to you. Put boys and men put that

1821
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: put that boy to men. Yea, yeah, So that's that's

1822
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 1: my top.

1823
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So Jay, let's do a voltron. Okay, let's do

1824
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 3: a volt tron. You know we need the vocal, the

1825
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 3: performance style, the styling, and the heart of the artists.

1826
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 3: Oh and and and I'm gonna add I'm gonna add

1827
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 3: one more for you, Okay. The mind that the intellect

1828
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 3: of the entity. Okay, I'm ready.

1829
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 1: So the vocal, the vocal, My vocal is is a

1830
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: hybrid Charlie Wilson and Marvin Gay. Ship. That's nasty. That's

1831
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: that's my hybrid of a voice. I think all R

1832
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 1: and B at some point gets to those two guys.

1833
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Try to find your way with Marvin Gay and uh

1834
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: and Charlie Wilson. Okay, yet, I'm ready. That's heavy bike, uh,

1835
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: performance style, Michael Jackson, that's easy and then that was

1836
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: coming easy styling Prince mm hmm. Just think go ahead

1837
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: that I'm not ready to do the heel because that's

1838
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: just not me. And you know, I'm I'm taller than

1839
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: the average man, so I don't need a hell five

1840
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: to eleven is taller than the average man. Talk about

1841
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, not a giant. If I put

1842
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: on a heel, now, it's like, okay, nigga, you just

1843
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 1: want to be six three? You got a four inch heel?

1844
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 2: Jay?

1845
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: Wrong?

1846
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 2: We ain't never doing that, man. What is your doing?

1847
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: I tripping dancing?

1848
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 2: Ship his legs?

1849
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1850
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 2: The last week, sweep that leg.

1851
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 1: So prince the heart of the artist's passion, my other

1852
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: I got another hybrid mm hmm. James Brown and Rick

1853
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 1: James Ship to the Coldest Niggas Ship stump down, stumped down,

1854
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: and I'm int there, not playing, They're not fucking around.

1855
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 1: And then the mind, the mind Michael Jackson, he bought

1856
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: the Beatles, publishing the own half of Sony ATV diabolical, diabolical,

1857
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson doesn't get the credit as a businessman that

1858
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: he deserves.

1859
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 3: Can't give you that credit because then you're going to

1860
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 3: you're going to follow that blueprint. Yes, yes, you're not

1861
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 3: allowed to follow that blueprint.

1862
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 1: When they're trying to buy the Marvel comic trying to

1863
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 1: buy everything, Michaels, trying by everything assets Michaels in Vegas.

1864
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: He was part of with Steve when assets Michael's something different. Bro,

1865
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: you guys just sing music. Don't worry about the assets,

1866
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: the publishing, intellectual the intellectual properties. Don't worry about that,

1867
01:48:55,360 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 1: ye see. So Michael Jackson is my business mind ship. Yeah,

1868
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 1: and his artist is crazy. Listen, and then I'm gonna

1869
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: run off my quick while you're playing, before you start

1870
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: playing Piano'm gonna run off my quick R and B

1871
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 1: groups since I originally come from a group Boyster Men,

1872
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: Josy Jackson. Five new addition, new addition, The Whispers. Those

1873
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 1: are my top five groups. The Whispers in there, those

1874
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: are my top five groups. Love him Diggers is so cold,

1875
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 1: It's so cold.

1876
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 2: We go to this cat A lot of this is

1877
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 2: our podcast.

1878
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 1: Right to Ship, Yes, sir, I have to pay.

1879
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 2: I might have to pay Ruben and and and Jacob overtime.

1880
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: Just charge to me cheap. I'll take. I'll take the.

1881
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: Okay, ship, all right, we go. I think you know

1882
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 1: what's coming up? Ship.

1883
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 4: I ain't saying no nick, no names. I ain't saying

1884
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 4: no names, saying no name.

1885
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 1: What you did, I ain't.

1886
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 4: Saying name.

1887
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 1: Jay? Yeah, this is actually segment you made up. Yeah,

1888
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 1: so they're gonna ask me my question. You know what

1889
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1890
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 2: Hope me some ship I ain't never heard. I got,

1891
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 2: I got story, give me some funny st stories.

1892
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: I got funny fucked up. Yeah, I'm never gonna do that. Yeah,

1893
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: you talk about.

1894
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 2: What this is Jays, This is Jay, this is Jazz,

1895
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 2: this is Jays. I ain't saying no names.

1896
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Okay, it's my I ain't saying no names. I got

1897
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: a couple in here that I could just pull from.

1898
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: But we'll studies. Okay, okay, because cos I came on

1899
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: here and told multiples but whatever. So some years back,

1900
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: me and one of my guys, man, uh, and I

1901
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 1: don't go to a lot of concerts, but he's like, man,

1902
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: come come to this concert with me. I was like,

1903
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: all right, cool, cool, cool, cool man. You know some

1904
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 1: of the homies performing. Blah blah. I was like, okay,

1905
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: So we drive down to Fresno. Drive to Fresno. Uh,

1906
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: Fresno is about two hours and a half hours, depending

1907
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: on how fast you're driving, for sure, Okay, give me three.

1908
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: So we go to the show and uh we stay

1909
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: to the end. We stay to the end, and you know,

1910
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: headed back to LA and one of the one of

1911
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: the people that are performing m or that performed that

1912
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: night because it's multiple artists on it, and one of

1913
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 1: the artists is like, hey, man, can I Jake, can

1914
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 1: I ride with you back to uh to l a

1915
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: truck a bus or something. But you know ship okay,

1916
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 1: because I had you know, I had a truck, and

1917
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 1: so I'm like cool, So next thing, I know, he walks,

1918
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: you know, over back to where they were to talk

1919
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 1: to someone else, and you know, I get in the

1920
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: car here like hit hit hit uh, hit the truck

1921
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: for me. Hit the back thing. It's a it's a

1922
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: it's an suv. It's like the extent I don't know

1923
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 1: why my ass had it I rented, you know, like

1924
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 1: the long bed. Uh yeah, one of the extend exhales.

1925
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 2: Right, So I hit the hit the things.

1926
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 1: He put his bag back there, and then he's like, hey,

1927
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 1: can she ride with us?

1928
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 4: Cool?

1929
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm not tripping like you're the homie. I don't know

1930
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 1: you as well yet, but you know, it's it's all good.

1931
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: Can we can ride? And she looks like Fresno? She

1932
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 1: looks like Fresno. You know how like when you go

1933
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 1: to cities for.

1934
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 2: Every I could tell that she. I could tell that

1935
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 2: she that she didn't take the ride with she didn't fly.

1936
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 1: In with him. I just knew it. You know, you

1937
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: go to cities and you're like, oh, you look like

1938
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 1: your local. You look like Dallas you look I mean

1939
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: it's certain local looks of women just in different cities.

1940
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 2: They dress.

1941
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: Like a local, right, pretty girl? You know, hi, she

1942
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 1: hops in. She says hi, says hi to me and

1943
01:53:54,840 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: my homie, and we're riding. And now it's the end

1944
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 1: of the show. So it's maybe eleven twelve at night.

1945
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: Were on Highway five. You've driven Highway five. You've driven

1946
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 1: Highway five. It's pitch black, it's dark. So we rhying,

1947
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 1: were listening to music, being a homie. We talking and

1948
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: shit and next thing, WI hear some heavy naked that's whatever.

1949
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 1: I say. Okay, that's cool, that's cool, you know what

1950
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I'm not, I ain't driven. He wants

1951
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 1: some activities.

1952
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 2: It's cool.

1953
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: We got it. We got a long ride, man, you know.

1954
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: And then we hear like, oh, they're letting the sea back. Okay,

1955
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 1: but now I think they have climbed into the back.

1956
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the at the thing like I

1957
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: just want to make sure to hit something. So I

1958
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 1: look and I just see the back of two people

1959
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 1: going over and letting down. I'm like, oh no, no,

1960
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 1: they're about to get to it. Nigga Ryan. For about

1961
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: another five now, it sounds like some different type of smacking,

1962
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: you know that you know, like you know, maybe a

1963
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 1: little filatio or something, a little you know, it's activities mash.

1964
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, getting bossed up, Okay, getting bossed up.

1965
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: But the next thing I hear is.

1966
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 2: I didn knock my motherfucker watch like this, and I'm like, no, no, man, no,

1967
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 2: And I look at the homie.

1968
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 4: And he's like yeah, it's yeah.

1969
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: And me and him are boat trying to figure out

1970
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: a way not to look at the like to look

1971
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: in the rear view.

1972
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to see what's going on, but I

1973
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: can hear it.

1974
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, we're driving, he's he is giving her

1975
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 1: the business man putting on the shows. He's putting on

1976
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: the show for me and the homie dog he put

1977
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 1: on the show. I have to get gas, bro, I've

1978
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: driven the fres now, now I got to drive home,

1979
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: honey gas. So I'm like, you know when you go

1980
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 1: to the gas station. N Yeah, I'm like, ship mmm,

1981
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: get off. Smacking stops a little bit because they could

1982
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: tell I'm getting off. The homie. Like we pull into

1983
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 1: the gas station, You're like, y'all want something from you

1984
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: want something from stove.

1985
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, brodn't even wanted to shake your hair

1986
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 2: right now? What have you been doing? You want to

1987
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 2: get me a gatorade. No, and I'm still.

1988
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 1: Looking at the steer where I'm like, hey, broke, you

1989
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: gotta pump the gas.

1990
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 4: Bro, I'm just here.

1991
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: And get in. He got a couple of Gatorays, maybe

1992
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: a water, nigga. He goes to the gatorade. Down, nigga.

1993
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: We get another five minutes.

1994
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 2: He back to it.

1995
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: No way, he have to be on the pill man he.

1996
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 2: Had yeah, man, yeah, something last too long with the

1997
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 2: kids on.

1998
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:44,200
Speaker 5: Now he had to be on a perk thirty you

1999
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 5: gotta be giving it a perky man, man.

2000
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: He knocked her down from the for the rest of

2001
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 1: the trip. Rest of the trip, y'all to listen to

2002
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 1: that for the rest of the trip. Turn the music

2003
01:57:56,920 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 1: up loud, turn the music up from the realm. Because

2004
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a hater.

2005
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 3: Almost three albums, I'm not a hater. They might have

2006
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 3: took like a half a nap. Poundtown Baby, they got

2007
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 3: right back.

2008
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: That girl got that song right now, Pound.

2009
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 1: Town, Poundtown. I told her a new one. So then

2010
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 1: we get to La dropping them off at the hotel.

2011
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what you going.

2012
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm about to go upstairs and let

2013
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 1: her have it some more. Then she gotta find her

2014
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 1: way back to fress though. I said, if this ain't

2015
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 1: a oh my gosh, I ain't saying.

2016
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 2: Names, that's a great story, great story.

2017
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 1: I ain't saying on names. Wow, oh Poundtown. I don't

2018
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: know what to say?

2019
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 4: Should should I hate it?

2020
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 2: Now?

2021
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: I felt like I was a It's like, you.

2022
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 3: Know what, maybe there should be some courtesy involved, like like, look,

2023
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 3: you know, appreciate you let me ride.

2024
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably dig this out, Like is that alright

2025
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 1: with you? Wipe up there? Y'all got wipes up there?

2026
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 3: Like y'all got any type of towel lets like should

2027
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 3: be stopping by a big towel. I don't know how

2028
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 3: that's gonna go. I feel like there should have been

2029
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 3: some type of maybe absolutely or you know, y'all want

2030
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 3: something to like some just just.

2031
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 4: Include everybody.

2032
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, like some type of I would have

2033
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 3: turned to that, of course you would, you know. I'm

2034
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:44,839
Speaker 3: just trying to think about it's gonna have been sensibly avoided.

2035
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's my that's my story, man, that's my

2036
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 3: saying that. That's a no timer bro downtown, that's a

2037
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 3: nold timer. That's yes, we alred to beat that one.

2038
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna that's right with or Lynx punching whoever in

2039
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 3: the face.

2040
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 4: That's right.

2041
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 2: That's what would you say after all the stuff that

2042
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 2: we've talked about, what would you say is your greatest accomplishment?

2043
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 1: My kids? Yeah? My kids? I uh, that's my ultimate

2044
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: sacrifice for everything, Like I could make way more money,

2045
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 1: do way more things. I never want to have that

2046
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: conversation to where they feel like I chose anything over

2047
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 1: them at this point. For me, at this stage of

2048
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:43,400
Speaker 1: my life, I'm not sacrificing my time with them for anything,

2049
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to figure out how to get to

2050
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 1: soccer practice and basketball practice and volleyball camp, graduation, take

2051
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 1: them to school, like I'm going to figure it out.

2052
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 1: Like I can't do it every single day and all

2053
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: day long, but I'm getting my time and so to me,

2054
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 1: that's that's my greatest accomplishment. I've made money, I've had success.

2055
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 1: Nothing felt like that. Yeah, nothing felt like you know,

2056
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 1: my kids being born. And you know then I be

2057
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: acting like I hit a three, Like yeah, bab how

2058
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 1: you do that again? See dad? If you just have

2059
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 1: to loosen your hips, Dad, you know how Naomi get

2060
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 1: out so just docing Naomi, well, my greatest accomplishment. But ja,

2061
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: we love you brother. That goes saying I love you man,

2062
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

2063
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 3: You know, in terms of this, I just think it's

2064
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 3: so much more, so much more left for you to do,

2065
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 3: so much more left for you to accomplish. And at

2066
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:54,320
Speaker 3: this point very happy that we're on the road two.

2067
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 3: Putting the face with the name, putting the face to

2068
02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 3: the music. You should understand, Yeah, this is why where

2069
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:06,160
Speaker 3: are the authorities on all.

2070
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 1: Things R and B? Yeah? Yeah, And you know, I'm

2071
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: set out to put us in a space that nobody

2072
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 1: ever can do what we did. That's that's it. We

2073
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: managed each other, we both made records. We made an

2074
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 1: amazing podcast because I will say that our podcast, bro

2075
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 1: is a great joy for me. Like this, this this

2076
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 1: thing that we have, man, that that we've done along

2077
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:42,640
Speaker 1: with Ruben and with Jacob and with Boh, this is

2078
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:44,680
Speaker 1: this is amazing. I have a great time doing it

2079
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 1: and I would I would do it for free, but

2080
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it for free. And you know,

2081
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: when when our when our first you know, our first

2082
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: deal is up, because we do got one deal in place,

2083
02:02:55,400 --> 02:03:00,600
Speaker 1: but when that first deal is up. Yeah, it's gonna

2084
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 1: get Beverly Hills here. I come here. I come like

2085
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:08,040
Speaker 1: the way that sound, like the way that sound. I

2086
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 1: like Beverly Hills. I like Beverly. Fuck all them, getty communities,

2087
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:15,920
Speaker 1: all of them. I need it.

2088
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing how it all comes together.

2089
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 3: Not if when, not if, it's don't fucking happen. Just

2090
02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 3: the work, you know what I'm saying. That's one thing

2091
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 3: that nobody can take from us.

2092
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 1: We do the work.

2093
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:32,879
Speaker 3: You do the work, brother, and thank you, bro. That's

2094
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:37,879
Speaker 3: that's what's gonna last. Work's gonna last hard working dedication

2095
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 3: is Floyd mad Yeah.

2096
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we do and we do it like yes

2097
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 1: that you know obviously everybody knows. I I get back

2098
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 1: to the numbers and the money. But this is for

2099
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: the culture. Like this thing that we do is for

2100
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 1: the culture. And we take that very serious and we

2101
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:57,880
Speaker 1: want people to see it in that light. You gotta

2102
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 1: you gotta really love this ship absolutely to do it.

2103
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: We can really be invested in this thing that we

2104
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, this R and B, this music business, because

2105
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 1: it also isn't just an R and B podcast. It's

2106
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:11,400
Speaker 1: called R and B Money because that's the name of

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Speaker 1: our company and we want to cement that in people's minds.

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Speaker 1: But this is not just an R and B podcast.

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Speaker 1: We talk about everything. We can talk to anybody and

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Speaker 1: shout out to our senior Hall for coming to that

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Speaker 1: got something and that we can we can continue his legacy.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. I'll never forget him and there

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Speaker 1: telling jokes with our kids like I love you, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know you like that. But from

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Speaker 1: and ultimately I hope that we can we can continue

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Speaker 1: you know, hire places and give people a safe place

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Speaker 1: us to come and be themselves. Absolutely so, yeah, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Uh, I am Tank. This is Bob.

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Speaker 3: And this is the R and B Money Podcast, the

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Speaker 3: authority on all things R and B. This has been

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Speaker 3: a special, a special special segment for your five Park

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Speaker 3: segment top eighty two, and in just reintroducing and introducing

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Speaker 3: you to our brother Dave and make sure you understand

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Speaker 3: who and what he is and where we're going on

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Speaker 3: over this. I hope you are Buckle love my brother.

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Speaker 1: I love a lot of work. Love you. I love you,

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Speaker 1: Yeah for Real Lady Dave bal.

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