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Speaker 1: On this episode Best of the Bus, we're throwing him

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Speaker 1: back to when the Titans hired a new head coach.

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Speaker 1: That new head coach Brian Callen. He came on the

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Speaker 1: bus shortly after he landed his job. Coach dived into

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Speaker 1: his decision is bringing his dad, Bill Callahan on board

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Speaker 1: as the old line coach and shares how the conversation

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Speaker 1: played out behind the scenes. We talked through his coaching journey,

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Speaker 1: every stop, every lesson, and what it takes stepping into

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Speaker 1: the role after Mike Rabel, who was widely loved by

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Speaker 1: the fan base. Callahan breaks down his plan of what

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Speaker 1: he's going to keep from the culture and what's changing

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Speaker 1: and why Titans fans should be fired up for the future.

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Speaker 2: Before we jumped on here, we were on the other

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Speaker 2: side talking about Coach Bill Callahan's individual yes and Taylor

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Speaker 2: was asking Coach Brian, do they call you coach Brian

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Speaker 2: or did they call you coach Callahan?

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Speaker 3: You want to know most of them call most of

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Speaker 3: them call me.

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Speaker 1: Cali CALLI Yeah, okay, I've got a little extra English

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Speaker 1: on it. I like that.

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Speaker 3: That is nice. It's it's what most people have called

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Speaker 3: me most of my coach career. Yeah, and but yeah,

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Speaker 3: coach works, Cali works right, well, weird people don't call

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Speaker 3: me Brian very often. That's a weird one for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, mister Calli it is. Then. Yeah, they was.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Cali about the individual of coach Brian Callahan,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh yeah. Sometimes in our individual

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Speaker 2: linebacker drills and Washington, I'd be like, all right, water

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Speaker 2: Let's go watch the hogs is Indy and we just

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Speaker 2: stand across the field and watch them. They just be

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Speaker 2: dying the whole time. It's so funny, Brod, he's coach

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Speaker 2: Collin's a grinder he gets out of you. Coach Bill Callahan, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Coach Bill Kellyan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, what was go ahead?

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, whatever timeframes that you get

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Speaker 2: with any constraints, you're juicing as much all the seconds

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Speaker 1: Has he been like that always as long as you can? Always?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, always, He's always been full till all the time.

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Speaker 3: And that's how you get I mean, that's how guys

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Speaker 3: I think they might have done forty or fifty different

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Speaker 3: past sets, and the filmed every one of them, and

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Speaker 3: got better. But yeah, it's every usable second he uses.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't ever stop.

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Speaker 1: What's his philosophy on pass sets because a lot of

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Speaker 1: coaches come in they're like, we do it one way

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Speaker 3: Well, he coaches the technique that he's looking for. But

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of variants in the set, the set angles,

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Speaker 1: That's that's so awesome, how the old dogs are willing

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Speaker 1: Only one guy. Have you ever met Russ Grim?

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Speaker 3: I have not met him. I know him, but I don't.

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Speaker 3: I can't say that no more.

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Speaker 1: I was with Russ for two years, the greatest offensive

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something to do that. Yeah, there's something to

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Speaker 3: And Uh, what's been super impressive about him is his

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Speaker 2: No one knowing that. You've seen him kind of adapt

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's there's a you know, I think

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Speaker 3: He knows the motivations I think. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: When you get this job at the Tennessee Titans and

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Speaker 1: be the old line coach from my ball club.

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Speaker 2: How did that?

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Speaker 1: How did that all go down?

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Speaker 3: It was It was cool. The backstory is I interviewed

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Speaker 3: I never worked for him at any point. There have

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Speaker 3: I've never spent any time with him in the coaching profession.

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Speaker 3: And so I asked him question a year ago and

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Speaker 3: he was like, no, I don't think I want to

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Speaker 3: I think a son has ever hired their father in

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Speaker 3: Mike's always been around, but he never hired him in

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Speaker 3: what I mean? And you have to have those conversations,

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Speaker 3: I don't really want to leave, understand, And so I

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Speaker 1: I got the job, proud of your son. Tears in

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Speaker 3: And I think I'd want to be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: And so as and I'll go have my press conference,

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Speaker 3: and we were kind of talking back and forth, and

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Speaker 3: And it's been maybe the coolest experience of my coaching

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Speaker 2: Dude, you had a unincredible press or when you're talking

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Speaker 2: about with your dad, like there's a lot of perspective,

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Speaker 2: a lot of just like you can tell when you

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Speaker 2: say that, like you genuinely mean it. Oh yeah, Was

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Speaker 2: there a reason that you got that you guys were

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Speaker 2: never on the same staff. Is there something about saying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, that's true. One of the things I had finished.

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Speaker 3: My dad was at at Nebraska at the time. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very very academically drove.

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Speaker 3: That's a numb.

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Speaker 2: While we grow him here at the bus, the fly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's he like watching at practice? Like I've had

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Speaker 3: That's what it was. It was. It was a standard

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Speaker 3: the expectation is that they're gonna win every game. Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Drew Brees. Those guys get to a certain

437
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Speaker 3: point in their career where they don't allow anything other

438
00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,960
Speaker 3: than what the highest standard is possible, and if you

439
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,560
Speaker 3: don't meet it, you're not gonna be playing with them.

440
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Speaker 3: And that's how he operated and and I appreciated that

441
00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,240
Speaker 3: because he's got all the pressure he's got. I gotta

442
00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,399
Speaker 3: I gotta do my part. And if I'm if I'm

443
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Speaker 3: gonna do all this, then I'm gonna make sure everybody

444
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 3: around me is is at the same level that I am.

445
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Speaker 3: And I thought that was a really cool thing to

446
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Speaker 3: witness and in person. But that's how it would be

447
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,440
Speaker 3: if you if you didn't if you missed an assignment.

448
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 3: He was particularly ruthless on like running backs and protection

449
00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 3: and he had to be able to trust him to

450
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Speaker 3: do because he didn't. You know, I don't want to

451
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Speaker 3: get hit, right and if they missed an assignment, it

452
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Speaker 3: was like give me the next one, or like if

453
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Speaker 3: he's if he's coming into the game, I'll come out,

454
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Speaker 3: you know.

455
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Speaker 2: Like that.

456
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Speaker 3: It was that intensity and the expectation he's coming into the.

457
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Speaker 2: Game, Kelly, you don't put him in the game, will

458
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Speaker 2: be out?

459
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Speaker 3: Yeah. If I see him coming on the field, you'll

460
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Speaker 3: see me walking off.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

462
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Speaker 3: It h So that part was just it's it's just

463
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Speaker 3: a demand of the standard of what you expect every day.

464
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Speaker 3: And it was awesome and again everybody rose to meet it.

465
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Speaker 3: You know, we had young players and Eric Decker and

466
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Speaker 3: Demarus Thomas and c. J. Anderson. I mean, he meet

467
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Speaker 3: some guys that that were unproven at the time that

468
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 3: he helped make what they became. And it was a

469
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Speaker 3: really cool process to be a part of. Man, he's

470
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Speaker 3: unlike anybody I've ever been around.

471
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Speaker 1: What's it like with the coaches during practice when he's

472
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Speaker 1: sending a guy away and the coach is like, no,

473
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Speaker 1: you're in, and there's like this kind of this battle

474
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Speaker 1: of egos between the sheriff and the coach. Does it

475
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Speaker 1: get uncomfortable at all? Is there like in the meeting room.

476
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Speaker 3: Like this, Can we be honest about it. It's if

477
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Speaker 3: he doesn't want him in, he's not gonna be whether

478
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Speaker 3: coaches aren't.

479
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Speaker 1: Saying a word like yeah, I mean you probably eight.

480
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Speaker 3: I mean that's just what That's just what it was,

481
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Speaker 3: and that's why and you and you, and it wasn't

482
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Speaker 3: like that all the time, but like there was, there

483
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Speaker 3: was a standard and if you didn't meet it, the

484
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Speaker 3: expectation was that you wouldn't be you wouldn't be there

485
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Speaker 3: playing with them. But that's also what drove guys to

486
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Speaker 3: be even better than they thought they could be, was

487
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Speaker 3: because they wanted to be a part of it and

488
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Speaker 3: they wanted to be in that mode. They wanted to

489
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Speaker 3: be counted on. And it's amazing what happens when you

490
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Speaker 3: got a guy making sure that you better do it

491
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Speaker 3: right or you can't be Yeah, it drives you to

492
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Speaker 3: be great.

493
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Speaker 1: Truth you. So you had Peyton Manning and then you

494
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Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati and you get blessed with Joe Cool

495
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Yeah, what is Joe.

496
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Speaker 3: Have a staff and says the two years in Detroit

497
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: were phenomenal. It was I God, Matthews talk about underrated man,

498
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Speaker 3: Like I think he's one of the best quarterbacks in

499
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Speaker 3: football and has been for a long time, and I

500
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Speaker 3: think he finally gets his due, but there was a

501
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Speaker 3: while there where he didn't. And he might be one

502
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Speaker 3: of the toughest players I've ever been around, and one

503
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Speaker 3: of the most crazy talented quarterbacks that I've seen play.

504
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's unbelievable.

505
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Speaker 1: That clip of them in like a two minute drive

506
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Speaker 1: to win the game and he like gets his shoulder

507
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Speaker 1: out or something like that and he's on the sideline

508
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: like that in his career. Yeah, yes, that was like

509
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Speaker 1: just one of the cooler things you see a quarterback

510
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Speaker 1: do because he's like hurt and he's like, I'll do it,

511
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Speaker 1: and he throws a touchdown the games over they win.

512
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Speaker 3: He's like, should think it was broke and he broke

513
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Speaker 3: his collar bone? No, ship, Yeah, I think that's what

514
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: it was if I remember correctly. But yeah, he's ah, you

515
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: want to talk about I mean, you guys know the

516
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 3: things that guys play through that people don't know about,

517
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Speaker 3: uh is it would be shocking. I think if people

518
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Speaker 3: knew what the guy's dealt with during a football season

519
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 3: and the things that he played through and the toughness

520
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: that he had, it was it might be the toughest

521
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: guy I've ever seen. I mean, truthfully, oh yeah he is.

522
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Speaker 3: He is hard nosed, tough at all get out, and

523
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Speaker 3: he's an awesome guy to be around. I don't know

524
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Speaker 3: how much time you guys have spent with him, but

525
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Speaker 3: I never I.

526
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Speaker 1: Don't think I met him either.

527
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Speaker 2: You just hear he just like that time.

528
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Speaker 1: Why do you think he was still under raid for

529
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Speaker 1: so long?

530
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Speaker 3: Just because Yeah, they didn't win enough, you know, And

531
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Speaker 3: that's again, that's a the wins tend to become a

532
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Speaker 3: quarterback stat which they probably shouldn't be. But there he

533
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Speaker 3: was on teams that were probably on the on the

534
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Speaker 3: brink and could never quite get over that hump. And

535
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Speaker 3: and then obviously he goes to l A and he's

536
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,719
Speaker 3: been lightning on fires and every time, I mean, he's

537
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: been unbelievable. There, wins the super Bowl, all the like.

538
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: It's he's finally I think, getting his due as a player.

539
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: But he was that player before he got to LA

540
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Speaker 3: He just didn't probably get the recognition for it.

541
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Speaker 2: And then you get Joe b. Yeah, yeah, you've been

542
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Speaker 2: around some cats.

543
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: I've been very lucky.

544
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: I've been very like Mad Stafford, Joe Burrow what are

545
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Speaker 2: the similarities that all three of those guys have, And

546
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Speaker 2: then you talked about a little bit on the way

547
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Speaker 2: that Staff was, Peyton was, and then also some differences

548
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Speaker 2: with Joe b.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was. It was very different because

550
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Speaker 3: Peyton was obviously going and I think when he came

551
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Speaker 3: to Denver that was like year fifteen. When I went

552
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Speaker 3: was when I was with Matthew. I think Matthew was

553
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 3: going into like seven eight, A, seven eight, nine ten somewhere.

554
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: He was. He had been playing for a couple of years.

555
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Speaker 3: And then having Joe was different because Joe was a

556
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Speaker 3: rookie obviously a highly highly regarded and his reputation preceded

557
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: him when he got drafted. But yeah, he was still

558
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: a rookie and then so that was a really fun

559
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: process to try to help that development from being a

560
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: rookie and as you guys know, rookies are rookies eve

561
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: no matter how good they are, still takes some time.

562
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: But to see him become everything that we thought he

563
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: could become and he knew he could become was pretty awesome.

564
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: And that's because he shares a lot of the same

565
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: traits that that Peyton and Matthew have in terms of

566
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: you know, there's just an edge to the there's just

567
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: something about those guys, and you know it when you

568
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: see it, where they just don't accept anything other than

569
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: the best and there is no such thing as failure

570
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 3: like they do not there they won't fail, they can't fail,

571
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: and there's there's a willpower in that. I think that's

572
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: kind of the baseline of who they are. And then

573
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: there's a drive to be the best there is and

574
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Speaker 3: there's just and then he has the ability to deliver

575
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Speaker 3: on it, which is pretty cool. Very different personality than

576
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Speaker 3: Peyton and Matthew. They're all very unique, but they share

577
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Speaker 3: that commonality where they're they're at their core, they're they're assassins.

578
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Speaker 2: When did you win, Joe?

579
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Speaker 1: When Joe walks into the the Bengals franchise and he said,

580
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: takes rookies, doesn't matter how good they are, takes them

581
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Speaker 1: a little bit of time. When did you know, Okay,

582
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: we got the franchise quarterback?

583
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Speaker 3: Probably about halfway through that first year where you're still

584
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: kind of figuring some things out. Obviously it's a COVID year,

585
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: so it's even more challenging. So he has no offseason.

586
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: We don't have any OTA's there's all virtual.

587
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: God, imagine picking up a playbook so hard.

588
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: And and then there's no fans in the stadium. So

589
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: his first game, we play the Chargers, and this is

590
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: the game where uh Tyrod got injected and they punched

591
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 3: a lung and so then it was Herbert and him

592
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Speaker 3: playing and Joe goes down at the very end of

593
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: the game. It would been like the legend of Joe

594
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: Burrow would have only grown end of the game. Goes

595
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: down and throws a fade stop to aj Green in

596
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: the corner of the end zone and they calls for OPI.

597
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: So the game winning touchdown gets called back. So we

598
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: go kick it field goal to tie it, and our

599
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: kicker cramped and missed the game winning field goal. There's

600
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: no there's nobody in the stands cramps and we miss,

601
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: and so here's this, like here's this like busting out

602
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: of the scene. Here comes Joe Burrow come back win

603
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: last minute when in his first start, and it just

604
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: it isn't And it was like, that's that's that's unfortunate.

605
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 3: You saw a glimpse of that and that in that drive, like, oh,

606
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 3: this guy, it's gonna be pretty good, I think, and

607
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: then each game he successively got better. And I think

608
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: the one game you probably played in potentially, I think

609
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: Tennessee came to Cincinnati and we had lost, and we

610
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 3: had five new starters up front, and then we had

611
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: signed Quinton Spain on Friday and he started at left

612
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Speaker 3: guard on Sunday, yes, and so we had we had

613
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: a guy that hadn't practiced with us, and we had

614
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Speaker 3: five new starters. And that was the game where Joe

615
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: sort of took it on it and took it on

616
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: his back and we ended up winning the game. We

617
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: played pretty well, and it was that game when it

618
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: was like he's arrived.

619
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Speaker 1: This is the guys.

620
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: He is what we thought he was going to be.

621
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: And then he goes and plays good for another I think,

622
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: maybe one more week, two more weeks, and he gets

623
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: hurt in Washington and tears me up. So the season,

624
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: but he was we were hitting this rise, we were

625
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: we were gonna win. I think we would have won

626
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: a handful of games on a stretch, and I think

627
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: people would have looked like, oh, here he comes, but

628
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: he gets hurt and it's out. Nobody knows how good

629
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: he's really going to be and he ultimately sacrificed his

630
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: knee for Jamar Chase because that allowed us. We were

631
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: not very good after that, and we picked Jamar next

632
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: year the fifth overall.

633
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: But a lot of stuff came up in that draft

634
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: where when when he gets hurt, everyone's like they need protection.

635
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: You just said all the offensive lineman route. You sign

636
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: a guy off the streets, he comes and starts for

637
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: you that week, and you guys go pick Jamar Chase.

638
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Where was the thought process in that building when you're

639
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: evaluating because you're you're thinking franchise quarterback. We know this

640
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: is the guy, we got to get him offensive lineman?

641
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: What was? It was the Pine sul it was and

642
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: Jamal That was like the big debate. It's like, how

643
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 3: do the how can the Bengals not draft a left tackle?

644
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: Looking back on it, you can't go wrong like both

645
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: those yeah.

646
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: Both of me, Like these guys are gonna both be

647
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: all pro players and whoever you pick was going to

648
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 3: be right. But you we went back and forth and

649
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: there was plenty of debate, plenty of opinion on it,

650
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: and ultimately I had went back to my time in

651
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: Denver when we had Damarius Thomas Eric Decker and then

652
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Sanders, and then in the slot we had Wes Welker.

653
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: Uh and we were we were And.

654
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: I was so nasty underrated, Yeah.

655
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 3: Very very good player. And we we had a game

656
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 3: against New England when we were in Denver down the

657
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: stretch and it was two bad was back to back

658
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: plays or maybe two out of three plays. End of

659
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: the game. We had to go win the game and

660
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: we hit two go balls down on each one each side.

661
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: I think one was Marius, one was to Emmanual, and

662
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: it was like, man, when you gotta win versus press coverage,

663
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who you have up front. If you

664
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: can't have a guy that can go win that matchup,

665
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a hard time throwing the ball to

666
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: win in the NFL, and that always just stuck with me,

667
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: and I always thought that was a good way to

668
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: build an offense. Is that make sure you have guys

669
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: that can win. And you know, we getting this debate

670
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 3: back and forth about the tackle and the receiver, and

671
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I said, if he can win

672
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: fast enough, it's not gonna matter how long we buy.

673
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: If he can win quick, we can get the ball

674
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: out quick. And one of the things that Joe does

675
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: so well is play on time in process, and so

676
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: the ball gets distributed and it's like, well, we can

677
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: negate some of the offensive line issues if we've got

678
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: elite playmakers outside. And that was my stance, and then

679
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: it's a couple of other people had some didn't have that.

680
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: So it went back and forth, but ultimately we landed

681
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: on that Jamar would be the the gay that scores touchdowns,

682
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: would be one that would be more helpful for our offense,

683
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: and thank god we did.

684
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: So you were the guy that brought Jamara Cincinnati.

685
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: I'm not going to claim that. I'm not going to

686
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 3: claim I'm just telling you my perspective on the argument

687
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: was that, and I voiced that. I mean, that was

688
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: my prerogative the voice that as a coordinator, and I

689
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: think Zach felt the same way as Zach Taylor. I

690
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: think he landed on that same argument. So the two

691
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: of us sort of were in agreement, but ultimately it

692
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: was that's a Zach Taylor, Duke Tobin, and Mike Brown

693
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: decision that gets made. But that's that was the argument

694
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: back then.

695
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: The most fiery or drama filled moment in a war

696
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: room that you've seen.

697
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Hold on, can I just did you guys talk to

698
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow at all about Hey, should we go tackle

699
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: why Receeve ever being a rookie, but knowing he's.

700
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: Your friend, Joe's involved, we kept Joe in the loop

701
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: on all the personnel decisions and the thought process, and

702
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: we actually talked to him at because he knew Jambar

703
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: and so Jamar didin' if you if you remember, Jamar

704
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: didn't play that year because it was COVID year and

705
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: he sat out and so there wasn't any recent film

706
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: on him other than the year that he was tearing

707
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: up the sec with Joe killing and so Joe was like,

708
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: Joe didn't Joe was like, I'll take Jamar every every

709
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: day and twice on Sunday like this, It's not even

710
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: a debate for him. He because he knew what he was,

711
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: he knew how impactful he could be. And so Joe

712
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: was all in favor of Jamar in that situation and

713
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad he was.

714
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: I love it.

715
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: So I forgot make sure you get that same question. Yeah,

716
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: most fiery or drama filled tense moment in a in

717
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: a war room that you've that you've been a part

718
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: of or witnessed.

719
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: You know, not all there hasn't been as many were.

720
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: Somebody who look back, you're like, man, maybe they should

721
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: we should have took that guy.

722
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: Oh, there's always that. I mean, I would say the

723
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: debates between the players that were available to us and

724
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: at pick five that year was pretty intense. I mean,

725
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: there was some guys that felt like Kyle Pitts was

726
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: a really fantastic prospect coming out and he was the

727
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: Pinnae seul. Those the other guys that were involved with

728
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: Obviously DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Watta were both in that conversation,

729
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: So those were pretty Those were pretty intense conversations because

730
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: guys were pretty convicted on what they thought those players

731
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: can be. And so I remember a good couple back

732
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: and forth on some of those debates on this player

733
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: over this player, and ultimately when you look back, like, well,

734
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: we weren't gonna be wrong either way. All those guys

735
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: ended up being great players, So we know nobody was

736
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: wrong in that regard. But when you're debating on who

737
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: to pick, and do you take Pena Suol or do

738
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: you do you take Pina Suol and try to take

739
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: Devon Smith and you know what's the what what player

740
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: are you looking at? And you obviously account for some

741
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: of those quarterbacks going and you look at the world

742
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: of player you're in and you got a debate like hell,

743
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: And those usually means that you made the best decision too,

744
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: because you've you've fleshed out all the all the good

745
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: and bads and pros and cons of all the players.

746
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: And but those were pretty intent. Those debates are pretty intense.

747
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: Those are the ones that I remember the most because

748
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: you're picking at five, that's a that should be a

749
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame style player and you can't get it wrong.

750
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, with with that clock ticking down at five, how

751
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: long did that discussion go up before someone's like, hey,

752
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: we got to call this thing in Or was it

753
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: pretty decided when knew.

754
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: You once you knew where the players are, because we

755
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: weren't sure who was going to Gore is gonna go

756
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: to Atlanta? You didn't know, You didn't know if Miami

757
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: was going to try to trade up. There was a

758
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: whole lot of stuff going on that until you're on

759
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: the clock, you don't know. But the decision had been

760
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: made prior to the draft, even starting that if this

761
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: this is the order we're going to go in. If

762
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: this is if Jamar's there, we're taking them. If Jamar's

763
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: not there, we're taking Pena. If those two are both gone,

764
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: we're taking this guy. So that stuff all gets settled

765
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: out prior to the draft, even starting.

766
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Speaker 1: When you when you hearing you talk about the Bengals

767
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: and how you guys established your offense gets me fired

768
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: up for the Titans because you're seeing how you view

769
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: the field, how you veel you need guys to win

770
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: and press one on one coverage and you're getting all

771
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: these athletes in there, all you have so many, so

772
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: much talent on the offensive side of the ball. Now, like,

773
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: what what's the expectation WHI should be happening for the Titans?

774
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: We win it all this year? Is this it?

775
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: You know?

776
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: I tell I tell Jack and Garrett back there, who've

777
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: been Titans fans. It's the inception of Tennessee that we're

778
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl.

779
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: I tell our guys all the time that we don't

780
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: make any any predictions or promises, So I I certainly

781
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: can't step out here. And that's good meeting set, that's

782
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: good anything other than that. I will say this though,

783
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: I am excited about what we've done. The players we've added,

784
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: I think they're all you know, we had with Calvin

785
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: Ridley and and Tyler Boyd and and de Hop coming back,

786
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: and Tony Pollard mixed mixing him with with Taj Spears,

787
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: and you get a chance to draft J. C. Latham,

788
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: and you got a year two for Peter Skronsky and

789
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: now you go sign Lloyd Kushienberry. To sound like, I

790
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: feel like there's some there's some really exciting pieces that

791
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: you know, if we can put it all together, I

792
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: think we have a chance. And obviously I believe in

793
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: Will Levis. It's a large reason why I took the

794
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: job is that I think he's capable of being a

795
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: really good player. Uh and he has not disappointed so

796
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: far in the Austinson program. He's fantastic, does everything you

797
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: ask the way you want it. And I'm I'm excited

798
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: to see what we have. I was just I'll leave

799
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: it at that. I think we we can. I think

800
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: we can put together a competitive football team.

801
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: What do you see in Will Levis? Because again, we

802
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: just rattled off three guys that you've been around paid

803
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Manning Matt Stafford, Joe Burrow.

804
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: What do you see similarly with with Will the drive?

805
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: He's got the drive. He wants to be a great player. Uh,

806
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: he wants to do whatever it takes to be a

807
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: great player. I think one of the cool things about

808
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: watching We'll get to play last year and in some

809
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: pretty adverse circumstances is you saw his toughness.

810
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: You know.

811
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of a common theme with these guys,

812
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: is they all have this kind of innate toughness that

813
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: that guy's rally around. You know, when you see when

814
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: you see a quarterback out there, you know, diving for

815
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 3: a first down, or or taking a shot and making

816
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: a great throws, he's taking one on the chin. That's

817
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: the kind of guy you want to play for, right

818
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: Like you go, you go, yeah, let's I can do

819
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: this guy? Can this guy can do enough for me

820
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: to play hard with. And you saw all those things

821
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 3: on tape last year, and you saw his physical talent.

822
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: Obviously I don't want him jumping and diving and flipping

823
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: around for first downs because let's not do that.

824
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: Let's not do that.

825
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: Let's see that's that's that's the that's the brand. I

826
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: mean you need that thing to work. So we'll try

827
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: to lessen some of that. But I think he's proven

828
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: uh his toughness to the to the guys and the

829
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: team and the people in the NFL look at him

830
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: and go, all right, this guy he's got a chance.

831
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: Now let's give him as much talent around him as

832
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: possible and and and see if we can help him

833
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: with a system offensively to have some success. And he's

834
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: got all the traits that you look for. Though as

835
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: far as the drive and determination to be great, UH

836
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: is there. And that's that's exciting.

837
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: With the with Ran, like you walk into the building

838
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: and for the nine years I was with the Titans,

839
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: like day one and two of free agency, nothing ever

840
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: happened with the Titians. We kind of sit back, let

841
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: the first wave go, and you kind of pick pieces

842
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: up in the middle market. You guys came in started

843
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: just cleaning house immediately, do you and Ran? How clear

844
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: is your guys' conversation of where you want the direction

845
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: to go? Like, how that's just on the same page. Clear?

846
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Him and I hit it off in the interview process,

847
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 3: and he was a guy that that I just connected

848
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: with immediately. You know, you meet people you and you

849
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: just there's just something about the connection. You're like, this

850
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: is this is the kind of person I want to

851
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: go to work with every day. And it has been

852
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: that way from the minute we stepped on our first

853
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: Zoom interview through today, it's been It's been everything I

854
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: thought it would be in terms of our working relationship

855
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: and our vision, uh and how we want to execute

856
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: the vision and what it's going to take to get

857
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: the team competitive to where we like we can contend

858
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: for the division and for the playoffs and ultimately for

859
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl someday. That we've been on the same

860
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: page with everything and it's been really really fun, Like

861
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: it's not like that everywhere, as you guys know, you

862
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: don't always get that connection, and it's it's been incredible.

863
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 3: And he's got a great feel for what football is

864
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: supposed to look like we see it the same way.

865
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: And man, when you go into a free agency period

866
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: and you're in lockstep and with Chad Brinker as well,

867
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: where you're like, this is the direction we're heading, you

868
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: feel really good about it. And then the coolest part

869
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: about it is you get to a certain point in

870
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: free agency where things don't always you know, we didn't

871
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: get everybody we initially thought we were going to get.

872
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: And so a guy goes here and a guy goes there,

873
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: and now you look around. Well, the difference and the

874
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: good teams in free agency is how fast do you pivot?

875
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: And so we lose two or three guys and all

876
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden we look up and we're like, we

877
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: should probably check in on Calvin Ridley and see where

878
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: that's at. You know, we got some we got money,

879
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: we didn't think we're going to have. We lost a

880
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: guy or two that we thought we were going to

881
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: get back and we didn't. So let's let's check in.

882
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 3: Let's see where it's at. And so then thats started

883
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: and kind of swooped in the middle of the night

884
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: and stole Calvin out of there. And that was because

885
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: you just you gotta fluid. You're able to pivot. You

886
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: have a you have a plan in place, and when

887
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: the plan doesn't go exactly the same, you know where

888
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: the next spot is. And I thought Ram was masterful

889
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 3: in the free agency process.

890
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: With with like your philosophies and the way you want

891
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: to kind of cultivate your first job being a head coach,

892
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 2: Like what you inherited with the Titans. From the familiar

893
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: faces who are still here, what are some of the

894
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: directions and vision you wanted to kind of take this

895
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: team internally in the building. Yeah, from what you'd understood

896
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: most previously.

897
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I think the thing about the Titans, I

898
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: think really for the history of the of the organization

899
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: in Nashville, is that it's always been a tough ass team.

900
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: You know, regardless of of the players that have been

901
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: on the team, there's just a there's been a tradition

902
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: of this toughness. Every time we ever played Tennessee. It

903
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: was like, buckle up, boys, like you're gonna get You're

904
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: gonna get every it's gonna be everything you got, everything

905
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: they got, and it's gonna come down to the end.

906
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: And that's how I've always viewed the Titans every time

907
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: we've ever played them, for the years of in the NFL.

908
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: It's just there's always been good players here. It's always

909
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: been tough teams. They've always been well coached, and that

910
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: part is the part you want to stay. That's sort

911
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: of like an ethos of the organization. You want that

912
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 3: to be a part of who they always are, regardless

913
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: of who's in charge. And the other part that I

914
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: believe in is that you want guys that love being

915
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: around each other, that love being in the building together,

916
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: and you want an environment that they love working with

917
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: their coaches too, And so there's a there's a feeling

918
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: that you want when you when you wake up in

919
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: the morning and you got to go to work, and

920
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: there's it's one of two ways. Either you're like, fuck man,

921
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: I want to go to work today.

922
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: I've been there a couple of days.

923
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, or it's like like hell yeah, I can't wait

924
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: to get to work. And that's the what I what

925
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm going for is that second option where guys wake

926
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: up and can't wait to be in the building because

927
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: they love what they're doing and who they're doing it with,

928
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: and there's a connection amongst the people that are doing

929
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: it with. I g's what you need about where we

930
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: are in Tennessee now with Rand and myself is that

931
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: it's a very open building and there's a lot of

932
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: back and forth. Like you see Ram walking in the

933
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: hallways and he's out of practice and he's dapping guys

934
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: up and he's talking to him in the lunch room,

935
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: and I'm around and I'm visible, and there's our personalities

936
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: play off each other, and I think we hired a

937
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: coaching staff that's the same way. And I hope the

938
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: players feel that when they're in the building. I think

939
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: if you ask most of them, they would feel, at

940
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: least to start, that's how it feels. But I want

941
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 3: guys that love coming to work and playing football together

942
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: because everybody's got money, everybody's got talent, and I think

943
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: that's what separates teams is what kind of locker room

944
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: do you have? What kind of people are in the building,

945
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: And I think that's what matters the most.

946
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: When we went into the French the facility, it seemed

947
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: like everybody was way more loose. Guys were coming up

948
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: to us saying, hey, like it's different, like things is.

949
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: The energy is different. There's a higher vibe here that

950
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from anything from John and Vrave, like

951
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: they there was a Patriots Way type of vibe where

952
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: but holes are tight when you go into a team

953
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: meeting and you know you can get exposed if you

954
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: have a bad play at practice. So it was like

955
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: ones got to be on their ship to know that

956
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 1: on Sunday we're gonna go win, Like, how long once

957
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: you got in the building and got with the guys,

958
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: did you see the transition of them, like letting their

959
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: shoulders down, letting their guard done a little bit. I'll

960
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: be like, okay, we can we can mix it up

961
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: a little bit with the coach. Yeah, it's headball coaching

962
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: a GM. That's that's a tough to guys to mix

963
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: it up with and feel.

964
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: Comfortable unless you like that.

965
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: That's been in the game for a long time.

966
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: And I still feel like guys get nervous sometimes around

967
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: me and I don't. It's new for me being in

968
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: the role too. I realized how.

969
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: Much your position.

970
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: I feel like cool guy. I'm learning more about the

971
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: weight of my words and my interactions and how much

972
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: it matters to guys when maybe you don't think twice

973
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: about it, but it might be the only time you

974
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: interact with the head coach the for a week, and

975
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: like that hit that sticks with guys. I remember even

976
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: as a player that how that would stick with me.

977
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: And I'm much more mindful of that now than maybe

978
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: I ever was, And even as the days go by,

979
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: it stands out sometimes. But I think that there's a

980
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: lot of ways to win in the NFL, there's not

981
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: one set way that you have to take. And I

982
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: think as long as you're kind of authentic to what

983
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: you believe in, you can you can build the program

984
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: and in the image that you think is the right way.

985
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 3: And I just believe that there's a when you come

986
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: to work and there's a there's a looseness and and

987
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: and a joy in the process.

988
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

989
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: It makes a really hard profession a little less hard.

990
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: And I think when you get into the the part

991
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: that when it is really hard, when you're in December

992
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: and it's tough, and you're banged up and it hurts

993
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: uh to go practice every day, there's something other than

994
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: the money motivating you to go out there and and

995
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: play with the boys, Right, I mean that's kind of

996
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: what that's what you want. And yeah, I think an

997
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: environment that's got some joy to it and some fun

998
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: and some energy, I think takes a little bit of

999
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: the edge off of how hard it can be. And

1000
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: it can be hard, you know, it's even when everything's great,

1001
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: even when everything works well, there's always days where it's hard.

1002
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: And I think that if you have a locker room

1003
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: and a building that's conducive to a little bit of

1004
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: fun and excitement and and authentic. I mean, I am

1005
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: who I am. I'm gonna I don't want to try

1006
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: to be anybody else. And that's just always been my personality.

1007
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: And I think that hopefully that that that shows up

1008
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: in what our team looks like.

1009
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't lying. I mean the playing football every

1010
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: day is it's a grinder, especially like you're saying later

1011
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: in the year, it gets dark a little earlier. You're

1012
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: feeling on your nick last week of October is like

1013
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: the worst the walk through today, or have to lace

1014
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: some up and you're right too. Like jokes you might

1015
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: say as a position coach or a coordinator might hit

1016
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: a little differently to an athlete. But if you're saying

1017
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: a joke as a head coach, like the athlete could

1018
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: be driving home like fuck, does he think I'm just rash?

1019
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: Like you're in your own head, But if he gives

1020
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: you something positive. Can remember Shanahan one time he came

1021
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: up all interception machine. This is like my rookie year.

1022
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: I had had two interceptions in a practice. I just

1023
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: remember just writing on cloud nine thinking, like, you know,

1024
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: the head ball coach noticed me, you know, so it's

1025
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: gotta be like interesting knowing that your words do carry

1026
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: like a different weight to everybody.

1027
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I walked in one day, I walked in

1028
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: to talk to one of the assistant coaches like I

1029
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: normally would like when I was a coordinator, and I'm

1030
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: kind of busting balls. But I kind of sees like

1031
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: the reaction on his face was like, oh, what like

1032
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: to do something wrong, I'm buying in trouble And I

1033
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, I probably shouldn't. I probably need to

1034
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: probably need tone that one down, and yeah, make it,

1035
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: make it not feel so.

1036
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: Like, tone it down or tell whoever that is, don't

1037
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: be so soft. Yeah, we're having a good time. It's

1038
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: gonna be all right.

1039
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: Jay would be talking about me making plays in space.

1040
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: I would literally just beg man, I know the front office, though,

1041
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: the whole coaching stuff must think I just can't tackle

1042
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: in space.

1043
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: But in your head about everything, he just said that joke, Like,

1044
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: I know, I don't. I don't think people understand how

1045
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: much mental warfare goes on between players and coaches. No,

1046
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all try to do mental warfare,

1047
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: but I just don't. I'd rather not.

1048
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: I'd prefer not to do that if I.

1049
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: Can, which is so difficult though, because you're right like

1050
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: the words of a head coach when you say anything,

1051
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: but like an noline coaches due, you could easily write

1052
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: that off at whatever the head coaches it to you.

1053
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: You're calling your girl friend, your wife, it's sick family

1054
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: members like you said this, like what do you think? Good?

1055
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: Bad or ugly?

1056
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: You're doing whatever you can entire off season. You're working

1057
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: on that one thing that was kind of said right.

1058
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: Forever and then as a heck as as a head coach,

1059
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 3: it might even he might not even have thought twice

1060
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: about what it might have just been like an in

1061
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: passing comment. Yeah, and all of a sudden, you're just

1062
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: like you just all in your head about whatever it

1063
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: was that was said, and the head coach might have

1064
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: forgot even said it.

1065
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about having fun. What's your stance on

1066
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: rookie shows?

1067
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: You love it about them, You're about them, about them,

1068
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: rook show, pro rookie show, pro rookie show. However, yea

1069
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: is you're twenty twenty fours about the show. There's there's

1070
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: I've not been the recent rookie shows that I've been

1071
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: around subpar need. The rookies need little help from some

1072
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: guys out there in the world that know what a

1073
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: rookie show is supposed to look like. And uh, I've

1074
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: just not been not been impressed with some of the things.

1075
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: They're just not funny. Yeah, and there's nothing worse than

1076
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: going like rookies ship. You're amped up, like I can't

1077
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: wait to see who they who do they go after? Yeah,

1078
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 3: it's like they're kind of they get scared. You can't

1079
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: be scared. You should know as good as anybody.

1080
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, you let me sit around

1081
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: training camp for a couple of weeks.

1082
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: You'll you'll have a few downs.

1083
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, get some manurisms of yours, and I'll just go

1084
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: after you.

1085
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: I'll just go going after the head ball coach is

1086
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: the best thing to do as a rookie by far,

1087
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: But it's also the scariest thing to do as a rookie.

1088
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: Also true, you.

1089
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: Gotta find that sweet balance being good graces with you,

1090
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: but also find all the possibly can But if.

1091
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: If you can get a good rookie show is maybe

1092
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: one of the better, one of the finer things in

1093
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: life that.

1094
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: Sets the tone for there the training camp.

1095
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's at the ending though, like you're like,

1096
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of excited to get out of there. This

1097
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: is going to set the tone for the first game

1098
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, were all there for the last

1099
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: time before cuts. What's we're going to.

1100
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: Get If any rookies are watching this, study coach Callahan

1101
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: and go after him during.

1102
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: The Rookie Show. Have to have to have to like

1103
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: go to let me get the roast of Tom Brady,

1104
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: go to the family.

1105
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: Just just lay it all out there and just just

1106
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: hope the reaction is good.

1107
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just gonna say, who are, in your opinion,

1108
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: the funnier guys on the team.

1109
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: I'm still getting to know. I'm getting to know more personalities.

1110
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: Is that as the days go by, it sure seems

1111
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: like arden Key's got enough personality for everybody, which is great.

1112
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: I love it. I enjoy the personality part, Like I

1113
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: love guys that got something to them and make it

1114
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: fun Like that's that's awesome. I love when guys feel

1115
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: like they can be themselves. Arden is probably the one

1116
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: that stands out the most. Spears has got a good

1117
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: has got a good kind of a He's quiet, but

1118
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: he's got a little personality that pops up every now

1119
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: and again, still trying to figure out which offensive lineman's

1120
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: got it. You know, they're so they're there. Every day

1121
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: is like a new day for them right now.

1122
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: With with coach Bill, I don't know if you find personality.

1123
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: But there's some guys I think that are that are

1124
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: candidates for but generally tends to be the defensive guys

1125
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: that have the most personality and then they're at least

1126
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: afraid to show it. So I think that there might

1127
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 3: be a few of those guys. But I'm hoping that

1128
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: some of these rookies come with something good in August.

1129
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they got to be the most

1130
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: focused on. Like playbook comes second to the Rookie Show.

1131
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: To make sure that you have that rookiees entertainer, the

1132
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: ball club entertained, Yeah, entertainment, run an entertainment business exactly.

1133
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: With being a head coach for the first time and

1134
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: taking the first team meeting, addressing the team, what are

1135
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: the nerves like, Because every head coach I've ever had,

1136
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: it's a lot.

1137
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: There's some nerves in there, for sure, I bet, because

1138
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: you want to make you want to make a good impression.

1139
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: Where and again, we've had like twelve team meetings since

1140
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: the first one, so like the the novelty does wear off,

1141
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: like after you get through the first one, but that

1142
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 3: first one you spend a ton of time thinking about,

1143
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: and you just want to make sure that when you

1144
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: come in there that the guys look at you and go, yeah,

1145
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: I like this guy. I'm I'm willing to listen as

1146
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: you guys know. You can come in there sometimes and

1147
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: maybe the first one rubs you the wrong way and

1148
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,959
Speaker 3: you're kind of like, I don't know about this cat,

1149
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: you know, like yeah, yeah, And so that's you just

1150
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: want to make an impression good enough to where you've

1151
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: bought everyone's attention for another week, you know, right, and

1152
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: hopefully they can.

1153
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: See me sure has the same facial expression as the

1154
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: first time. You know, you're not losing the crowd, right, And.

1155
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: I try to be my team meeting, they try to

1156
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 3: be to the point. You know, I don't. I don't.

1157
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: I'm not a preacher, you know, I don't. I don't

1158
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: need to, but I do have messaging that I want

1159
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: to get across, and so I spend a lot of

1160
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: time thinking about the messaging and what I'm going to

1161
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: say and hopefully that in a in a very short

1162
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: eight to ten minutes, I can convey whatever that is

1163
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: for the day. And I only have one a week,

1164
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: so I don't overdo it. Yeah, nobody wants Nobody wants

1165
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: to hear me talk that much. I know that.

1166
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: And the fall, you only have one a week in

1167
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: the fall.

1168
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 3: When the season starts, it'll be a Wednesday and a.

1169
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: Friday Wednesday or Friday Wednesday and Thursday to the rest

1170
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: of the squad.

1171
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Thursday is the own day. And then you have

1172
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: something night before, which can be sometimes as short as

1173
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: two minutes, or you may go a little longer if

1174
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: it's a depending on the mood of the team and

1175
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: then and the game you're getting ready to play. But

1176
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: try to try to limit the amount of times I

1177
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: have to go preach in front of everybody.

1178
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: What kind of coach are you? Night before a game, dude,

1179
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like, are we watching a movie scene?

1180
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: I got that.

1181
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: I love something like what what's your go tos bro?

1182
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: I very much try to keep like the pulse of

1183
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: like what we might which might need for that week.

1184
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1185
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: I did something kind of similar with a in Cincinnati

1186
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: on Saturday mornings. I would do this tie in of

1187
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: the game plan, and I would mix in whatever messaging

1188
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: I thought was, you know, might hit home.

1189
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: Give an example like this messaging, yeah, this movie scene,

1190
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: if it's no.

1191
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 3: I used, actually used quite a bit of The Man

1192
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: the Arena documentary one year. I kind of took pieces

1193
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: of it over the course of the season, and then

1194
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: like every other week I might have something from that

1195
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: that because there was just so many good things from

1196
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: that documentary. I thought about, like what a championship team

1197
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: would feel like, and so I try to use as

1198
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: many mediums as I can to help convey whatever message

1199
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: I'd be trying to convey. And I even do that now.

1200
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: I had one even for a rookie meeting. There's this

1201
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: clip on the internet with there's a ball boy a

1202
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: handful of years ago one of the soccer teams. I

1203
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: think it might have been like Tottenham, where this ball

1204
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: boy is like super dialed into his job and he

1205
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 3: gets the ball. It's on a throwing but the ball

1206
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: comes out of bounds and he has one in his

1207
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: hands and he's just his job is to get it

1208
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: to that guy as quick as possible. Well, he jumps

1209
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: out of his seat, tosses the ball to the guy.

1210
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: They throw it in on like a fast break, and

1211
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: they score because they catch team in transition because ball

1212
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 3: boys like on top of.

1213
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: His shiite clip.

1214
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably say, yeah it was.

1215
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: It was a viral and it was viral, but it's

1216
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 3: it's it's out there, and I showed it to the

1217
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: rookies and I was like, this is like talk about

1218
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: finding a role and doing it well. Like here's just

1219
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 3: ten year old ball boy or thirteen year old ball

1220
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: boy that knows that if I do my job really well,

1221
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: it's going to help us. And yeah, that's it.

1222
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: Don't They bring him to the locker room after this. Yeah,

1223
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: they give him like a jersey.

1224
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so things like things like that. It's wild.

1225
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: It was, I mean, it's you know. And then and

1226
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: the manager goes over like look at how fast and

1227
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: then transition right, balls in his hand, he's running, they're

1228
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: on sides and then he ends up with a hitting

1229
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: a man transition for a score, and like, I think

1230
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: it was a huge game too. So then the manager's

1231
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: tapping them up and like things like that, if I

1232
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: can anything I can find, I use quotes some guys

1233
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: in the NBA, I've used Steph Curry anything that reinforces

1234
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 3: the message. And like I told, I showed the rookies

1235
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: that and it was like, look, man, find whatever your

1236
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 3: role is, wherever they whatever's asked of you, like make

1237
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: it the most important thing. And if you have a

1238
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 3: chance to make a play, then you make the play.

1239
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: That's how you get recognized. And so it's stuff like that.

1240
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: I can fire and brimstone it pretty good when I

1241
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: want to, but I try to save those in my

1242
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: back pocket for yeah, for when you really need it.

1243
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: When you talk about playing the Tessa Titans held like

1244
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: it was an effort toughness and they're very well coached. Yes,

1245
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: what are the core values you're seeking to bring in

1246
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: with the Tesnsea Titans with this new.

1247
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: Wave, just in terms of like what what I want

1248
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: our team to look for by the.

1249
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: Things you're going to preach, Like usually a lot of

1250
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: times like coaches have like these are three things that

1251
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: we are going to be built on as our foundation

1252
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: as a team, Like as you being the head coach

1253
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: of Tesse Titans, Like what are those three pillars?

1254
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's there's a little bit of nuance to it.

1255
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: But the main one is we have three c's and

1256
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: it's character, communication, and connected team, And like, those are

1257
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: the three things that I think matter the most is

1258
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: that the character guys. Are they coachable? Are they dependable?

1259
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 3: Are they positive? You know what I mean? Is there

1260
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: are those the guys you want to be around as

1261
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: a teammate.

1262
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1263
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 3: And then when you talk about the communication part, like

1264
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 3: the best teams in the league are are great communicators? Verbal, visual,

1265
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: you know, especially up front. I use that example all

1266
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: the time. It's like you got to pick up blitz

1267
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: Is on third down to win in the NFL, and

1268
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: you got to be on the same page. And sometimes

1269
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: it's allowed to ship on the road and you're on

1270
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: a silent count and how do you how do we

1271
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: get to calls communicate? How great are we communicating? It

1272
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: also falls into the off the field part too, like

1273
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: when something's going on, make sure we're community. If you're

1274
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 3: going to be late to a coach on me late

1275
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: to the team meeting and you called me at seven thirty,

1276
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: that's good communication. If the meetings at eight, I got

1277
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: an issue, I need help take care of it. Right,

1278
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: we can work through that. If you tell me eight

1279
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: h five. After you show up this year at a car issue,

1280
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 3: that's bad communication. That's a fine, that's a fine. Yeah,

1281
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: So that's what we're looking not to do that. So

1282
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: those those three seasons. The last one I think I've

1283
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: kind of touched on is that being a connected team

1284
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 3: and being a part of something that's that's bigger than yourself. Like, again,

1285
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 3: everybody's got money, everybody's got players, there's talent in the league.

1286
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 3: Every game comes down to one possession most of the time.

1287
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: And what's the separator, And to me, it's the teams

1288
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: that when you look at them, you feel it when

1289
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: they play. You're like, man, those dudes are playing for

1290
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: each other, like you feel it. And you guys have

1291
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: been on those teams, you played against those teams, You're

1292
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: like like, damn, these guys are on top of it

1293
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: and you feel it from their sideline, you feel from

1294
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: the energy when they make a play, like that's Those

1295
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: are the things that you want to see. And I

1296
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: think the football parts are perrequisite, Like you got to

1297
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: be able to be detailed and have discipline. That stuff

1298
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: is that's like not negotiable and that's expected. These are

1299
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: those things, the character, the communication and being a connected team.

1300
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: Are things that I think make the difference when all

1301
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: that other stuff is equal.

1302
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 2: That's awesome that we talked about the gun slingers with Stafford, Manning,

1303
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Levis and Burrow. But I don't want to go I

1304
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: don't want to not bring up Browning last year getting

1305
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 2: thrown into the fire in a very high pressure situation. Yeah,

1306
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: talk about him a little bit because I feel like

1307
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: you it's like when that happened, it's like, well the Bengals,

1308
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: they're out of it. Yeah, but you guys, you know

1309
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: obviously you didn't didn't win the Super Bowl or anything. Yeah,

1310
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: there was like zero pain.

1311
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 3: We were in it.

1312
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys were in it right there until the end.

1313
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: Like talk about talk about Browning a little bit.

1314
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: Man, what a what a what a story?

1315
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: Really?

1316
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: I mean, he's we we we stole him off the

1317
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 3: practice squad before we played Minnesota in twenty twenty one,

1318
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: and we brought him in to ultimately sort of flush

1319
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: him for information. You know, they cut the quarterback loose.

1320
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, the water board him, get him out of there.

1321
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: When he came in and we're like, oh, really this

1322
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: this guy think because you know, we like this tape

1323
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: and obviously we didn't bring him in because just for

1324
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: that we thought he was a good player. But that's

1325
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: just how the league works. You cut guys loose and

1326
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 3: were playing in week one. So we signed him and

1327
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 3: he comes in. He starts like like, Wow, this guy's

1328
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: really smart. And then he's a little bit undersize, and

1329
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't look he's not like a outwardly great looking athlete,

1330
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: and you're like, all right, is this can this guy

1331
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: play at all? And we weren't sure. And he starts

1332
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: practicing and you're like, he does some things that you like.

1333
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 3: He can play on time, he can process, and so

1334
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: we just sort of kept him and he developed and

1335
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: he did a really nice job. And he was with

1336
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: us for I think two and a half years up

1337
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: to the chance to play, and he never really got

1338
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: to play. Played a little bit in the preseason and

1339
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: it was like, all right, well Jake's gonna play. Let's see,

1340
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: let's see what the guy's got. But we felt really

1341
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: confident that he would perform well because he works his

1342
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: ass off. He studies like crazy. And then when you

1343
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: look back at his career, he started for four years

1344
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: at Washington, they went to a rose boy. He was

1345
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 3: a good college football player. Yeah, and he's got all

1346
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: the makeup that would make you a good player in

1347
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1348
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: Uh.

1349
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: And he went out there, man, and he played awesome

1350
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: in a in a situation where it's hard to play, like,

1351
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 3: you know, the franchise quarterback gets hurt and like everybody's

1352
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: spirits are down. All of a sudden, Jake go's out

1353
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: there and guys were like, oh, fuck, yeah, we can

1354
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: do this, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, like

1355
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm not out of Yeah, we're not out of let's

1356
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: go and uh. And he brought some some life back

1357
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: into the team. And I give him a ton of

1358
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: credit because he was really open about what was good

1359
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: and what was bad, Like, hey, don't call that play.

1360
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: I don't like this play. Here's the things that I

1361
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: need to play like. He was very vocal about what

1362
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: he felt like he could succeed with. And that's a

1363
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 3: ton of credit goes to him because you know, when

1364
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: you're in a position as a player, like you're like, oh,

1365
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: if I say this, they might tell me to they can't.

1366
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: I know you won't do it. You were afraid to

1367
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: say something. You just you just want to do what's

1368
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: asked of you, and he goes in the first Pittsburgh

1369
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: game and we were kind of like, are you sure

1370
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: you feel good about this? And he's like, yeah, just

1371
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: call the game how you called it for Joe. I'll operate,

1372
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: I'll play well. And he didn't, and he came back

1373
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: the next weekend is like, don't call this, don't call this,

1374
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: don't call this. Call these things. Give me more peer progression,

1375
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: give me a chance to work through a read, find

1376
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: me some things. And he was like, all of a sudden,

1377
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: it was like, oh not, thank you. This is what

1378
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 3: we need from you, and we'll do whatever it is

1379
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: you need to do to feel like you can play well.

1380
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: And so a ton of credit to him for being

1381
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: able to say that. But he went out there and

1382
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: showed that he's a legitimate quarterback in the NFL. And

1383
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: when I got the job, he was joking. He's like,

1384
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's he was kind of messed up. He's like,

1385
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: I've gotten more guys have gotten the head jobs when

1386
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: I've played, and he's like, do people think I'm that

1387
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: shitty that I play well enough? And like it's now

1388
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: everyone's a great a great coach. And I'm like, I said,

1389
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: that's pretty backwards, I do agree, but hilarious, bro.

1390
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was almost like you know, when you get

1391
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: hired to everybody, we're hyping everything else. It's like, I mean,

1392
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: Joe b went down and they were still contenders with

1393
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: Jake Browning. Not like shitting on Jake, but you're like

1394
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: everything can still.

1395
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, inadvertently you do. Yeah and uh and

1396
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: so we laughed about it. But but I do think

1397
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: he he deserves a ton of credit for how well

1398
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: he played. He's kind of a self made I mean,

1399
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: he's worked his he's worked his tail off to get

1400
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: in position to when you get that opportunity to go

1401
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: to go play well. And he's gonna play in the

1402
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: NFL for a long time because of it. And I

1403
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: love the dude. I think he's outstanding. He's got a

1404
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: great personality, and I was really happy for him that

1405
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: he had a chance to show his talents like that,

1406
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: And and he was open and honest enough with us

1407
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: to help us put him in a position and that's

1408
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: ultimately our job.

1409
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1410
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a good but he is a he's

1411
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: a good football player.

1412
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, play him on the Titan someday.

1413
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: Who knows.

1414
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: He's he's got options.

1415
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: I think its under contract for like a year or two,

1416
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: two years, I think for oh you know, yeah, you're

1417
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: very aware.

1418
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're saying those quarterback controversy in Cincinnati right now,

1419
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: is that, you know what?

1420
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely big debate. Who's gonna be not sure, who's gonna be,

1421
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,360
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1422
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,160
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Speaker 1: see you. You talk about personalities of players, and now

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Speaker 1: more than ever, it seems like the landscape of NFL

1475
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: is changing with all the nile stuff in college guys

1476
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: are coming into the league with money already. Do you

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: see that change in personalities as new guys start to

1478
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: come in, Yeah, you do.

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Speaker 3: It's different. I mean it is a little bit different. Now,

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Speaker 3: Let's not pretend like guys weren't coming in the league

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01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: with money.

1482
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: Before, right, Not at UCLA obviously, definite.

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Speaker 3: Certainly not there. Yeah, maybe not in Nebraska either, but

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01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 3: unless Michigan, Michigan. I don't know. I feel like that's

1485
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Speaker 3: I wish, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Wish we had the sec treatment. I got a free

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: meal once. I bring it up all the time.

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01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: One time.

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01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: I got a free meal one time, and that fired

1490
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: me up.

1491
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: You get like one hundred dollars handshake somewhere.

1492
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: No, never, I never got offered a dime, and it

1493
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: bugs me because I would love the opportunity.

1494
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: To take somebody's money.

1495
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd ever hear about is they just put money

1496
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: like on a turnover on the sideline. You hear about

1497
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: a coach at a thousand, and then another coach would

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01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: match it, and then in college and Sue would get it.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know Sue was getting paid. You know

1501
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: something's happening. But Stafford he I heard stories about him

1502
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: being at Georgia and be there'll be five hundred thousand

1503
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,880
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1504
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 3: Stafford, Yes, I mean those those are all You hear

1505
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: those stories all the time.

1506
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: To Georgia, right, yeah, because I get him and Bradford

1507
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: mixed up sometimes.

1508
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: If you had a guess, would you think that's true?

1509
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think it will. I think

1510
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: I think some of it gets there's they're probably like

1511
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: fishing stories, like the fish gets bigger as the years go. Buy.

1512
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 3: I think there's probably some of but crazy, I'm sure

1513
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 3: at all. I'm sure they're I mean they're not made up,

1514
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: like I'm sure those stories all happened pretty regularly, I

1515
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: would imagine. But the kids coming in now, I mean

1516
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: you it's there. It's a different style, Like they've already

1517
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 3: been paid, you know, so this isn't the first time

1518
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: they've had money. And I think that that part is unique,

1519
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: that the money thing isn't new. But what is new

1520
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: for them is that now they can't transfer and they

1521
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 3: are under contract, and I think that's a different mindset

1522
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 3: for them, like they're used to being able to kind

1523
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: of really move, you know, wherever they want. College football

1524
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: transfer two three times, and nothing wrong with transfering, but

1525
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 3: there's it's a different mindset, like when things are hard

1526
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: in the NFL, you're under contract and you're either gonna

1527
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: get cut, you're gonna figure it out. And I think

1528
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: that's where it changes for guys is that they're not

1529
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: used to that that binding agreement that doesn't really exist

1530
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 3: in college football anymore, and that they have to play

1531
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: well to get money, you know, like that's the other.

1532
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: In the NFL, they come up and ask for trades

1533
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, your boy in Cincinnati, he said

1534
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting paid enough. Hendrickson, I mean it's news

1535
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: that he asked for trade, public public knowledge, blood airing

1536
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: the boy out. But you are constructually obligated you publi

1537
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: should think about that a little bit.

1538
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: But I think there that is the difference, though, is

1539
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: that there's no like what I do. Like, there's a

1540
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: resilience factor to maybe some of how some of these

1541
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: kids who come in college where the minute they don't

1542
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: like something, they leave, and the adjustment period comes when

1543
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: they get to the NFL and it's like, well I

1544
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: don't like this and it's like sorry, you know, like

1545
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: you you don't have a choice. Like so that part

1546
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: I think is where it changes. The money part I

1547
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: don't think has changed kids other than they just have

1548
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 3: more experience with money, and so you're not as concerned

1549
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 3: about maybe some of the things that a kid for

1550
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: the first time getting money. Some of these kids are

1551
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: been making money for four years, right being taxes, and

1552
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 3: you know that's not new for him.

1553
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost might be a good thing actually that

1554
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: they're making a little bit money in college.

1555
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially some of the the guys that are getting

1556
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: big money. You know, they're used to getting big money,

1557
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: and they're probably getting big money because they're good players,

1558
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: and so they likely are going to get pretty good

1559
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: money when they get the NFL by their draft position.

1560
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: So and hopefully have like the right teams kind of

1561
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: already kind of building and structured around themselves to make

1562
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: it an easy transition.

1563
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: You would hope. I think there is a little bit

1564
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: of a uh, there's some there's probably some predatory opportunities

1565
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: out there for guys, and some of these guys in

1566
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: college that don't know anything. And when you're talking about

1567
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: putting people around you, you just hope that they're making

1568
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: good decisions with it.

1569
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta have a team. You have a team that

1570
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: checks everybody. Yeah, Derrick Henry, Yeah, long time time and

1571
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: going to be obviously in the Ring of honor eventually,

1572
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: no doubt. Was there a conversation with you and RAN

1573
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: have to try to reach out and say, hey, let's

1574
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: do this one more year.

1575
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 3: They touch base, you know, RAN had a relationship with them,

1576
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 3: obviously being there for a year, and they went back

1577
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: and forth on what the money would look like, and

1578
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: we just we had the holes that we had to fill.

1579
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: The money would be allocated initially elsewhere. And the running

1580
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: back market went pretty good. I mean there's some guys

1581
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: that got paid. It was higher money than I think

1582
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 3: maybe we had projected to start across the league for

1583
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: the running back position. And that's good for those guys,

1584
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: that's great. And so when you get into those positions

1585
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: where you know we're trying to fill multiple holes in

1586
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: a free agency period, it's like where do you want

1587
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: to allocate the money and how do you want to

1588
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: spend it? And I think that I would have been

1589
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 3: absolutely open to Derek coming back. I think it felt

1590
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: like Derek was ready for something new. And then the

1591
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 3: money part when it happened. Those conversations go back and forth,

1592
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: and ultimately it was for both parties, probably the best

1593
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: decision at the end of the day, for him and

1594
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 3: for us. But I mean, he is he was the

1595
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans for the better part of the last six years,

1596
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 3: probably seven years, where I mean, that's what you thought.

1597
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: You go out of Tennessee, you thought Derrick Henry and

1598
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: look forward to day when he his name gets to

1599
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 3: go up in that stadium because he's earned that right. Yeah,

1600
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 3: to be up there with the greats. He's he's phenomenal.

1601
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: Getting to hang out with you at the facility and

1602
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: asking if you'd come on the bus. So she started

1603
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: to learn that you were a bit of a STOOLI

1604
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: in your younger days.

1605
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, it was I was.

1606
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: I always know that you're on the bus. Did you

1607
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: hit the group chat up?

1608
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 3: Hey, I didn't tell anybody. Yeah, it was going to

1609
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,479
Speaker 3: be there's I got some old from my high school

1610
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: buddies will be pretty pretty fired up. Yeah, Yeah, that

1611
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: was pretty far.

1612
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

1613
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I I feel like I was on

1614
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 3: the I was on the I was on the front

1615
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 3: end of the bar stool experience. I mean it was

1616
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: back when it was just a handful of those guys blogging,

1617
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: when it was just the blog it was. It was

1618
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: a two thousands.

1619
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: The Blackout party is that what it was called.

1620
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: My brother, my brother and my sisters went and went

1621
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 3: to a couple of those blackout parties. They're they're only

1622
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: my brother, only eighteen months younger than me, and they

1623
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: would always tell me about the blackout parties and you

1624
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 3: see the videos online. It was. It was a it

1625
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: was a different time on the internet, that's for sure.

1626
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember. I mean those guys are obviously

1627
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: Big Cat and and Dave and those guys. I've been

1628
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 3: reading those things for probably pretty close to when they

1629
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: from when they started and laugh for a lot of

1630
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 3: laughed a lot for a long time reading this stuff.

1631
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm a I'm a Steeleye. I've been

1632
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: I've been one for a really long time. I feel

1633
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: like it's got to be a weird part of like

1634
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: I'm be forty years old in June, and I think

1635
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 3: there's like this whole generation of like middle aged steelies

1636
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: that were there. No question, It's like, man, it's been

1637
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 3: deaveen doing this a long time.

1638
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: It's the inception. Yeah, like every time I see big Cat,

1639
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: he's got more and more gray hair.

1640
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: You just I can relate, I can relate.

1641
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's your favorite? Who's your favorite personality? Well, hold

1642
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: on before you.

1643
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 1: Did, maybe we should tear talk this for him. Okay,

1644
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: are you are you familiar with tear talk? No, so

1645
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: tear talk is we're just based. It's a ranking system.

1646
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's You're gonna start with three and work

1647
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: us up to one. You can give as much context

1648
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: or as those context as you want. The tier talk

1649
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: will be your favorite barstool personalities excluded. All right, we'll

1650
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: be got there. Yeah, you start with three, start with three.

1651
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: You can give an honorable mention too, if you're having

1652
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: a hard time.

1653
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I would probably be the originals of

1654
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: the guys that I'm probably talking about. I would say

1655
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 3: I would say my three. Okay, three would be I'll

1656
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 3: probably never be invited back here, But three would probably

1657
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: be Dave. You'll probably never let me back here.

1658
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: That's because he's too low or Dave gets gets mad

1659
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: at us a lot. Both.

1660
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 3: I'm a big, I'm a big. I'm a big supporter,

1661
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: so I want to appreciate it. I would say two

1662
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 3: would be KFC. I used to love listen to reading

1663
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: KFC's blogs back in the day. And then one would

1664
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: be Big Cat. I thought Big Cat was his humor

1665
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 3: and my humor were very similar, and so those going.

1666
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 3: He is, he's a machine man. I don't know how

1667
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: he does. I don't know how he keeps. I mean

1668
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: he's like he's like Internet Kobe or something like he

1669
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 3: just got this.

1670
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: Oh, don't tell him that.

1671
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, cut that his recall incredibility. You'll have a conversation

1672
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: with him in four years later. He'll remember it. There

1673
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: was a clip that came out yesterday about him and

1674
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,480
Speaker 1: KB on the YAC and it was back in October

1675
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: about him putting a razor blade in some of kb's

1676
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: food and eventually he's gonna give it to him with

1677
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: him the calendar year, and he did it yesterday.

1678
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: He's like an elephant, bro, he is.

1679
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: He really is an elephant. I thought that was he

1680
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: actually truth be told.

1681
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: He's got a question that he proposed to you.

1682
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: Is this the is this the one?

1683
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the one that we don't like.

1684
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 4: See BC to BC H first of all. Thank you

1685
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 4: for being a STOOLI and supporting us all these years.

1686
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 4: I got a question for you on taking a piss

1687
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 4: while I do this. I got a question for you

1688
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 4: on the bus. We'd love to have you on the show.

1689
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 4: And I was looking at the calendar June twenty fifth,

1690
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 4: if you want to come to Chicago, would love to

1691
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 4: have you, whole family, anyone who wants to come up

1692
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 4: June twenty fifth, Come to Chicago. We'll do an interview,

1693
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 4: we'll do the gamblet, We'll have a great time. So

1694
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: that's I guess my question is, can you come to

1695
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 4: Chicago June twenty five and come on pmtant to some context.

1696
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: The context on that is our Beer Games Championships of

1697
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: the World is on June twenty fifth. He is, he's

1698
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: on the list. He can't he's back out. He can't

1699
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: back out, he can't pass to come. He has he

1700
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: can't back out. Yeah, he's got this running bit happening

1701
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 2: right now that he can't back out. And since we've

1702
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: had to do a couple hurt we've had a couple

1703
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: of bumps in the road with the Beer Olympics, with

1704
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: the Beer Games. Sure, he likes to give the boys

1705
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: a hard time. So yeah, I guess he wants you

1706
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: to come on part of my take, which I'm sure that's.

1707
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 3: A yes absolutely June twenty fifth.

1708
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to do. He's busy June twenty five, busy.

1709
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 2: Un twenty five.

1710
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: We also it's a vacation time for y'all, too right.

1711
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: It is it is. I'm moving. I'm moving in that

1712
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 3: very short time frame from Cincinnati, finally down here, living

1713
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: in a house by myself, in an empty house with

1714
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 3: a bed. That's the life.

1715
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,520
Speaker 1: That college lifestyle. The matches on the floor, wires everywhere.

1716
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: TV lifestyle, sitting on like a folding chair to watch TV.

1717
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: You kind of do enjoy it a little bit, huh.

1718
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: There's part of it that brings back to your roots,

1719
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: no doubt. But yeah, that might be a tough swing,

1720
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: but we can look into it. Maybe next offseason, maybe

1721
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: next off the next off season, because they will take

1722
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: you out to Chicago and just let whoever your boys are.

1723
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 3: You heard him saying wants to come. You should come

1724
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: with an entire crew.

1725
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: And I'll say this about Chicago. Their HQ there is incredible.

1726
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: It's like a fantasy factory basketball. They have literally everything

1727
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: you want, basketball court, golf simulator, Chef Donnie and the

1728
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: Cornhill makey, whatever you want. It's some of the best

1729
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: food you'll ever have.

1730
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: It's like the tightest facility without the indoor, without the

1731
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: football field. Yeah, it's crazy, it is.

1732
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: It is cool. It's very cool. You'd really enjoy it

1733
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: cooling too.

1734
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 3: My my whole family is from Chicago. Really yeah. My

1735
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 3: dad's born and raised his South Side Chicago. My grandfather

1736
01:12:56,439 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 3: was a Chicago cop. Okay, good old Irish Chicago cup. Yeah.

1737
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: Nice. Are you you grew up a Bears fan?

1738
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: I did.

1739
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: Grew up a Bears fan until obviously I became a

1740
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: fan of my dad wherever we moved to. But when

1741
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: my dad was coaching in college at University Wisconsin, that

1742
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: was like the Bears were you know, he still I

1743
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: did still watches like every White Sox game.

1744
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh.

1745
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not very good.

1746
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: It runs deep in Chicago.

1747
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 3: Deep is deep. So my whole family, everybody, my mom,

1748
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 3: Mom's went to Norse, the whole family from Chicago.

1749
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: Were you just a massive fan of your dad growing up?

1750
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, he was always the man always. I mean,

1751
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, yeah, where you're like he doesn't know everything.

1752
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: I never I know, I did not really Oh yeah,

1753
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean god, I need some not. I mean so well,

1754
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: I'll say this like my dad was My dad is

1755
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: an intimidating personality, and I was the oldest of four

1756
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 3: and so I didn't ever have It was like I

1757
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: was scared to death to make a mistake because I

1758
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 3: you know, you you hear him, yeall he got a

1759
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: real loud voice. It's intimidating. Yeah, And I did not

1760
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 3: want to get I didn't want to get in trouble.

1761
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 3: It's all my friend, ude, you got to like I

1762
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 3: had like a ten thirty curview in high school for

1763
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: a while and all my boys, you gotta rebel, don't

1764
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 3: you can't hold They're like they're trying. Well, you know

1765
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 3: it's like, i mean, ten thirties kind of early. That

1766
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 3: is it's early, but this is weekend curfew. Oh yeah,

1767
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: this is all the time.

1768
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: Like this is yeah seven o'clo lights. Yeah, the game's over,

1769
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: You're going home home. No parties for me, none, And

1770
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: that's the best. Then we don't forget about ahead.

1771
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 3: But so that was the I was scared to death

1772
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 3: of Like I was not rebellious to my dad because

1773
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: I knew I watched my dad coach these guys for

1774
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 3: all these years, and how he his demeanor and his style.

1775
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't I don't need to cross that.

1776
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 3: I don't need those problems.

1777
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: Growing up?

1778
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: Were you like, were you a troublemaker or a straight shooter?

1779
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: The whole time?

1780
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: Was pretty straight shooter. Yeah. I had enough. I had enough,

1781
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 3: probably enough mischief, but not anything serious enough to really

1782
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 3: get in trouble.

1783
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: What is the most devious thing you ever did as

1784
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: a young team? Probably just tp a house, Probably egged

1785
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: the house. That's a that's his next step. That's egging

1786
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: is one thing.

1787
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: He'll throw the toilet paper of the tree. But the

1788
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: this somebody gets out of carton of eggs, he's probably thinking,

1789
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: if I want to be he's the.

1790
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: First one for me. I can't go that far.

1791
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was It was nothing more like nothing

1792
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: more than that. It was never anything I didn't.

1793
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: Just fun classic boys being boys stuff.

1794
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: Do you ever get in big trouble? I did?

1795
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I did once, and I was like middle school

1796
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 3: probably mm hmm. I I can't really want to tell

1797
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 3: the story, but I am because it's funny and whatever.

1798
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

1799
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: When I was in middle school, we me and my

1800
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: little neighbor next door, my buddy I used to run

1801
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 3: around with all the time we we used we decided

1802
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: we were going to make a torch. Parents went home.

1803
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: We run on and we wrapp all this toilet paper

1804
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 3: on a stick and dip it in gasoline and we're

1805
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 3: like swinging it around. We're middle school and we're swinging

1806
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 3: it around, and we're having a hell of a time.

1807
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 3: And we're in these woods behind our house, and we

1808
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 3: would try to be responsible. We had water, put put

1809
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: the put the torch in the water. You know it's

1810
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 3: and I look out like an hour later, and nobody

1811
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 3: my parents went home. I look out like an hour

1812
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 3: later in the entire for the entire force is on

1813
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 3: fire behind our house. I mean it was like fire department.

1814
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 3: I mean it's like it's like flame. Yeah, and we

1815
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: you know, we didn't mean to obviously, but but it's

1816
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 3: like there's you know, it's a patch of I mean,

1817
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't small, it wasn't like a whole fun but

1818
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 3: I mean there was trees on I mean, it was

1819
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: on fire. The fire warm had to come and put

1820
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 3: it out and uh. And but at the time, my

1821
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: parents weren't home. I was there, but I was home myself,

1822
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: and the fire department came. They put it out and

1823
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: they left, and I was like, I'm in the clear.

1824
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 3: They're never going to know. And so my buddy whose

1825
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 3: parents were home, they saw it and they put the

1826
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 3: clamps on him, and he cracked.

1827
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: No, yeah, he cracked.

1828
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 3: He definitely boy cracked.

1829
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have a talk with him after my brother?

1830
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: You got it?

1831
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: Like, come on, man, how they get him to crack?

1832
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: It's so easy because we were like relatively good kids.

1833
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: Like, it wasn't like he was. We weren't trying to

1834
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 3: do anything wrong. I think he was. Yeah, But then

1835
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: so my parents know. And then my dad asked me

1836
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 3: on multiple occasions, Hey, do you know anything about what

1837
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 3: happened back there behind the house. Nope, no idea. I

1838
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 3: mean lied to his face, lied to his face, and

1839
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 3: I thought I was getting away with it, and little

1840
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 3: did I know, I was just getting set up. That

1841
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 3: was just he was just stringing me along, just waiting.

1842
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: And that was the most mad I think I've ever

1843
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 3: seen him, not because of what we did, but because

1844
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 3: I lied to him about and he gave me ample

1845
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: opportunities to tell him the truth, and I just stuck

1846
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 3: with it.

1847
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: So he did it a few different occasions. Maybe the

1848
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: first time he let it pass. I'll see if he

1849
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: thinks about it a little bit more, old man, that's

1850
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 2: a vet move.

1851
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: Yes, that is a vet move. So when you wonder

1852
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: why I probably wouldn't rebel when I was in high school,

1853
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 3: I saw that and I was like, Nope, no, thanks, No,

1854
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: I don't need that.

1855
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: And I don't need those problems. That's a savvy dad move.

1856
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1857
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: My dad would go out of town in high school

1858
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, you're not all out in the house.

1859
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: I go to your mom session all in the house.

1860
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: And one time we had a party and I came

1861
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 1: home and I was like, you you've been in the

1862
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: house at all? Like no, But he set up like

1863
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: T shirts and certain things in parts of the house.

1864
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: I was I was just a little bit dirty. But

1865
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: he remembered every spot he put it in, so if

1866
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: it was moved it all. When he got back, you know,

1867
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 1: somebody was in the house. I folded. It was like

1868
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: ten people at the house too. It wasn't even a

1869
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: cool party. It was a kickback kickback. But yeah, man,

1870
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: dads are good like that.

1871
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy ever gets you. Oh yeah, yeah, I think

1872
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: that one that comes to my mind. I think I've

1873
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: totaled before. But my parents were out of town because

1874
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: my brother. I'm a junior in high school. So my brother,

1875
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: he's a sophomore, absolute stud wrestler, he was. My parents

1876
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: said that I had to wrestle that year, I'd be

1877
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: grounded all winter. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah said it helped

1878
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: me in football, which there is truth to wrestling helping

1879
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: in football. But my brother had a It was my

1880
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 2: it was my first week weekend, like on the squad

1881
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: and they're wrestling your boy JV junior and I thought

1882
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: it was so disrespectful. But brother, Yeah, my brother, who's

1883
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: a sophomore there, traveled out to Kansas City for this

1884
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 2: wrestling tournament for the varsity team. And so I'm just

1885
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: back at the house by myself. So I throw, you know,

1886
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,799
Speaker 2: I throw a party, nice little banger, and I'm talking.

1887
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: It's ever clear.

1888
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: It's it's the cheapest of the cheap, yeah, the most

1889
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: of the most the plastic stuff.

1890
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it was rowdy to where basically

1891
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: I had to be on the bus at like five

1892
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: point thirty in the morning the next morning to go

1893
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: to the JV wrestling tournament. And we were up all night,

1894
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: and I mean we're you know, we did. I was driven.

1895
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: We take somebody home and drop them off there puking

1896
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: in the driveway. As we're dropping them off. F I'm like, hey,

1897
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: you gotta hurry, like we have to leave so I

1898
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: can make the bus. And I'm still sauced from the night,

1899
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: and uh, We're riding up. I'm trying to like get

1900
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: some sleep. It's like an hour and a half bus ride.

1901
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 2: And then I start texting the boys like I didn't

1902
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: clean anything up, and my parents are going to get

1903
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: home before our bus gets back from the tournament. So

1904
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: just terrible planning on my part. So I'm texting like

1905
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: Logan and John and the boys. So I clean it up,

1906
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: and they did their absolute best. They got some stuff

1907
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: messed up, but they did what they could to clean

1908
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: up the place. Well. I get back, by the way

1909
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: one the JV wrestling tournament did not get scored on hungover,

1910
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 2: so just destroyed. But I get back and dude, my

1911
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: mom finds this. There was a condom sitting out on

1912
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: the end table that was being played with because forty

1913
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: year old Virgin had came out and he was playing

1914
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: Aquaman on his hand, yeah, with the condom, and my

1915
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: boy was doing that. I mean, there was girls over,

1916
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: and there's fun to be had, but that particular loss

1917
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: that we took was one that shouldn't have even been taken,

1918
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it was not fun fun.

1919
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: My dad was one of those where it was the

1920
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: same thing. I never wanted to be in trouble by

1921
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: my parents. And I remember again another another night where

1922
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: we got uh uh, where we got caught drinking and

1923
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: partying and stuff, and my parents came over and logan

1924
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: my buddy, he's like my best friend and his mom

1925
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: were pulling in the driveway and she's like, you guys

1926
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: want to have a party. Boys will have a party

1927
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: and just sit out on the grass. We're all like

1928
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 2: wind up, sitting down like you know, Indian style, and

1929
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 2: all your parents are coming over. We got you motherers

1930
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: type of thing. My dad comes over and bro like

1931
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: you know your boys, got like tears in his eyes,

1932
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: like I'm like, Dad, I'm not going home, and he

1933
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: like takes his glasses off. He's on like the other

1934
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: side of the dining room table and we're in Logan's

1935
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: house and he's like, son, you're coming home and starts

1936
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: like walking around and I just start like going around

1937
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: the table with it.

1938
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh bro.

1939
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: But it was not good. It was We've had We've

1940
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: had some run ins back in the day in all

1941
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: and my dad it's always the same speech, like you

1942
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: got the world ahead of you, like you have at

1943
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 2: this point. I had like one offer from like Illinois.

1944
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Dad, that's a good call, dad, Illinois.

1945
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 2: K stayed at the time, and he was like, you're

1946
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna mess this up, Like you're gonna fuck

1947
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: this off. And but we had it. We had some

1948
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: run in, some stories that definitely come to my mind,

1949
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, fuck, the boys were in some situations.

1950
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: Now. You never want to piss off your parents, No,

1951
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 3: not not if you especially when you got one that's

1952
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 3: not one you want to mess with either.

1953
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1954
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: Bro, you know there's a story I told her. My

1955
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: dad he's like, you ever want to shot at the title,

1956
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: you just let me know. And he's like this close

1957
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 2: to me and he just doesn't blow me kiss, but

1958
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: he just goes and in my face and I'm like,

1959
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: all right, all right, dad, and he's like, you ever

1960
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: want a shot at the time.

1961
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 3: A senior oh, a senior school.

1962
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: You should have swung on that man.

1963
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't know. There's a different now. I would,

1964
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, out of respect, it would never happen. Would

1965
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: obviously take take advantage of him now, But dude, there

1966
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,839
Speaker 2: was I mean, as long as you could have respect

1967
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: for an old man on beating your ass, he had

1968
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 2: every bit of it up.

1969
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie to you guys like I

1970
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised, like my dad is, so probably with

1971
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 3: my ask, we.

1972
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: Don't want to Bill, Bill, might you think he would? Dude, Bill?

1973
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 2: But this I mean yoga is. Don't sleep on yoga.

1974
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: But this man's a yoga at six am probably every morning.

1975
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: Zen Oh yeah Bill, Yeah, Bill Kellen.

1976
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can do the splits and handstands and stuff.

1977
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm not I had no idea, Like I don't.

1978
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 3: You don't want to mess I wouldn't mess with him.

1979
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. That's the thing that time.

1980
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're good. That's the thing too with

1981
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: like Bill, like you know, he carries this intimidating demeanor,

1982
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: but you know when he's saying something to you, he

1983
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 2: has he has your respect because you know, in his world,

1984
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: he's putting in all of that work, not just in studying,

1985
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: but in lifestyle with the yoga and watching him prep

1986
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: all the way up until kickoff, like laying on his

1987
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: back and just like studying his notebook and writing down

1988
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: final notes. And he is the man like I've always

1989
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: had a lot of respect for Bill.

1990
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: I appreciate glad.

1991
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: I never got to you never had to partake in

1992
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: his individual drills, but you always love to.

1993
01:23:59,439 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Get the sledge.

1994
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always loved the.

1995
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: Sled Bertha and Olga Olga.

1996
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, God did he create those?

1997
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he invented the sled.

1998
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: Do we invent the actual sled?

1999
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 3: Actual sled the sled that they were hitting, no ship,

2000
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 3: yea that actual actual invention of the sled. Do we

2001
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 3: have as Yeah?

2002
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:18,919
Speaker 1: This is a wild.

2003
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 5: J C.

2004
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: Is a he that's a unit of a man. Yes,

2005
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: and he's being he got folded the first time he

2006
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: see him start to figure it out, and they figured

2007
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: it out. There's no way anyone ever does good on

2008
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: that the first time.

2009
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: Never, No, And that's why my dad's laughing at him

2010
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 3: because they he bet him. Jasey's like, no, I got

2011
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 3: I'll get it, I'll move and my Dad's.

2012
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 2: Like okay, just hands in his pockets.

2013
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, they they invented that sled when he was

2014
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 3: in Washington.

2015
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 1: That's that's impressive right there, resetting the hips driving, that's impressive.

2016
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 3: State they call it taking another bite. He takes another

2017
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: bite and gets going. But that sled, he he he

2018
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 3: worked with Ray Crowd, the company, and they they sort

2019
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 3: of developed it together and made that that sled. The

2020
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 3: angles and the and the handles where your hands fit

2021
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 3: and like just it feels more like what a defensive

2022
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 3: lineman feels like coming off the ball versus like the

2023
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: old squared up sleds.

2024
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2025
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, with JC drafting him, getting your first opportunity to

2026
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: get your hands on him a little bit. Is there

2027
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: anything that surprised you at him that you did that

2028
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't have or is he as advertised as advertised?

2029
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 3: I mean, we felt like there was there was two

2030
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 3: linemen that we felt like we're worthy of top ten picks,

2031
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 3: and that's Joe Alton and JC and the two guys

2032
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 3: that we were like, either one of those guys will

2033
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 3: happily take yeah, if they're available to us, And thankfully

2034
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: j C was. And he's everything we thought he was

2035
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: gonna be. And he's got a super high ceiling because

2036
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 3: you just he's just got all these physical tools that

2037
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: you he doesn't even really know how to use them

2038
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: all yet, you know. But yeah, super talented, great kid,

2039
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: all the things you could want in an offensive lineman.

2040
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: Was there a fear for you him playing his whole

2041
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 1: career on the right side, now moving him to left.

2042
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 3: No, because you know, one, it's been done before, guys

2043
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 3: have transitioned from left to left. He played left in

2044
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 3: high school, so it's not like he's never been in

2045
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: a left handed stance. Played four years to Alabama because

2046
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: he had to with Evan Neil and then I think

2047
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 3: it was Tyler Steen maybe, But so they had guys

2048
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 3: that left, and then they had a five star recruit

2049
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 3: come in and he'd already played a couple years over there,

2050
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 3: and they were like, well, this is our chance to

2051
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 3: get our best five guys. Well, you're comfortable they will

2052
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 3: leave you there. But he's fully capable of playing left tackle.

2053
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 3: I think he's probably comparable to like what Tyron Smith

2054
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 3: was Tyrann came out as a right tackle, played right

2055
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 3: tackle for a year in the league, and they moved

2056
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 3: to left in that transition. Obviously that worked out great

2057
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: for him and for them. You know, he just did

2058
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: it with Jedrick Wilson in Cleveland. Cha had played on

2059
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 3: the right in Alabama and played left and he got

2060
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 3: to Cleveland for the last four years now. So not unprecedented,

2061
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: and he's got the talent to do it, So that's awesome.

2062
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see her that he's a good dude,

2063
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: because I worried those top notch SEC schools after doing

2064
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: with Isaiah Wilson in twenty twenty. Sure, that was a

2065
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: horrible experience for everybody involved in the Titans building.

2066
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 3: From Afart seemed like that was not a lot of fun.

2067
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: No, it was not.

2068
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 2: But he does seem JP was with him.

2069
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: JP's not in here. JP was with him at IMG

2070
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: and he says he's an awesome guy.

2071
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 3: He was, dude.

2072
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, an IMG two academy. The they have like leadership,

2073
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:16,799
Speaker 1: they have like mindset.

2074
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 3: It's a sports factory.

2075
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. We always talked to Tyler Booker, who was at

2076
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Alabama with him, and the way he was talking about

2077
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: mindset and meditation and all that. It was like eye

2078
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: opening to see that this young cat has all these

2079
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: tools already. Yeah, it's because IMG.

2080
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that he's and he was a number

2081
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 3: one recruit. It's not like he's no more recruit in

2082
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 3: the country. He goes to Alabama, it's like his he's

2083
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 3: known nothing but success. Yeah, and sometimes there's there's something

2084
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 3: to that. I think it was cool though. The other day,

2085
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 3: after the first practice, he struggles with the sled and

2086
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 3: he's kind of kind of made him mad, like he's

2087
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 3: a little bit disappointed he couldn't do it the right

2088
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 3: way right away. And so it's like five o'clock. They

2089
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 3: had the rookie meunie camp in the morning. This was

2090
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 3: on Friday. They appracticed in the morning. They're done at

2091
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 3: like about five o'clock and sit in my office and

2092
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 3: look outside and j C's out there like running one

2093
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 3: hundred yard sprints and then he's like mosing down to

2094
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 3: where the sled's at, and all of a sudden he

2095
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 3: starts hitting, says by himself, and all of a sudden,

2096
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: I walk next door. I'm like, rand should I stop him?

2097
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 3: He's like, I let him go. For a minute and

2098
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: just just let him do his thing. And but he's

2099
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 3: out there in the afternoon mad that he didn't do

2100
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 3: well enough and he's out there working again. I'm like,

2101
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 3: that's that's when you're like, Okay, this is the right makeup,

2102
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 3: Like this guy's.

2103
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's as juicy. Yeah, as a head coach, you

2104
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: got to look at that and be like, that's the

2105
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 1: guy we just drafted. That's awesome, unbelievable feeling.

2106
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 3: That's awesome. And but then there's also the flip side

2107
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 3: of it, is like, dude, you're gonna get plenty of work.

2108
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 3: You might just want to take the recovery when.

2109
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: You get it. But what a good first impression.

2110
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it was that that goes a

2111
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 3: long way, and and then it was every day after

2112
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 3: that where he'd be out like you just it's like

2113
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 3: part of his routine. And when you see a young player,

2114
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 3: it's got some routine where it's like I need to

2115
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 3: go do this, this and this in the afternoon because

2116
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 3: that helps me get ready for the next whatever it is.

2117
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 3: At least there's some thought process behind.

2118
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 2: It, like yeah, man, that'll do.

2119
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 3: You'll be able, you can be alright.

2120
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: That's got a fire fire.

2121
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Speaker 1: We have two massive Titan fans sitting on this bus

2132
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: right now, Jack McPherson and Garrett Hargas. They've been Titans

2133
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: fan since the beginning. Boys, do you have any questions

2134
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: for coach CALLI?

2135
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

2136
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 6: Jack McPherson, how's it going?

2137
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 3: Jack?

2138
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 6: Lifelong Titan fans, Super excited to have you here on

2139
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 6: the bus and behind the range the Titans. My question,

2140
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 6: with the significant upgrades we've gotten in the wide receiver

2141
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 6: room recently, what is your plan regarding trailing birds with

2142
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 6: him only having one TD in twenty two games. Yeah,

2143
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 6: I know you've been asked this before in the media,

2144
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 6: but would love to hear it first and from you.

2145
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 3: Sure, I think that's a that's a that's a topic

2146
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 3: of conversation these days. I'll tell you this, I only

2147
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 3: know what I've seen of him. Obviously, I know that

2148
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 3: what precedes him, just because I've watched it and I

2149
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 3: understand it. But from what we see on a day

2150
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 3: to day basis with Trade, he's been phenomenal. Like his

2151
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 3: work ethic, the things that he's done, does everything we've asked.

2152
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 3: He's got unbelievable physical talent, and it's almost it's a

2153
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 3: personal challenge to me and to our staff is how

2154
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: do we find the best role for Trade to come

2155
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 3: help us? Like I think he can be a good player,

2156
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: I do think guys get in these situations sometimes. For example,

2157
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: you you know the trade AJ and they draft him.

2158
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 3: There's just an intense amount of pressure on him to

2159
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 3: be AJ and or to replace AJ. And I think

2160
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 3: that that wears on guys sometimes when it doesn't go

2161
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 3: well to start, and it's hard to be a really

2162
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 3: good player at receiver as a rookie. I think it's hard.

2163
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 3: I think it's a difficult task and so for him

2164
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 3: there might have been a compounding factors of all that

2165
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 3: pressure he felt, and then to be able to go

2166
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 3: play fast and play aggressive and be free of that,

2167
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 3: I think is hard. So what I'm hopeful for is

2168
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 3: that the addition of these veteran players that we have

2169
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 3: in here a new lease for him in terms of

2170
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 3: all I know is what he's shown me, and I

2171
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 3: don't make any judgments on what's happened before, and that

2172
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 3: opportunity to reinvent yourself in a sense, I think is

2173
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 3: going to be really good for him. And I've been

2174
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 3: impressed with what he's done so far, and I think

2175
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 3: he can play. But it's like a personal challenge for

2176
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 3: me to find a place for him to have some

2177
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 3: success because he's got talent and ability to do it.

2178
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 6: That's awesome. My second part question as well, who what

2179
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 6: credentials do I need or who do I need to

2180
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 6: talk to to be able to be the twelfth Titan

2181
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 6: and swing that sort of honor put in the middle.

2182
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 3: You know, I've not experienced this yet, so you might

2183
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 3: have to.

2184
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: It's okay.

2185
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 6: It's the first thing they do right before the coin toss,

2186
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 6: and usually it's like an Eddie George or a Javon curse.

2187
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 6: But what about Jack McPherson from Nashville, Tennessee swinging that sword?

2188
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 6: Also one request again, you've never experienced this. We need

2189
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 6: to bring back the OG paintrain video.

2190
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this is okay. OG paintrain video does have

2191
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 1: to come back.

2192
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 6: I don't know what happened if it was a copyright issue,

2193
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 6: but there was an original video they played before every

2194
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 6: fourth quarter of every game, and it needs.

2195
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: To come back.

2196
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 6: I know if there's any Titans fans listening, they're turning

2197
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 6: this up and going, come on, come on, Callahan.

2198
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 1: All right, Kelly, they're calling him callying. Now, a couple

2199
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 1: of things right here, Jack, While he's answering the credential

2200
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: part of that question, can you pull up the pain

2201
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: training I'd like to see this. Jack is a guy.

2202
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: If you give him a reward at the end of

2203
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 1: a tunnel, he will work endlessly. Rich Eisen has not

2204
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 1: come on our show for almost three years now, I

2205
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: think too. And he was told if he tweets at

2206
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: rich eyes and every day until he comes on the show,

2207
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: we will gift him a Chevy Silverado. We're at day

2208
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: what three something?

2209
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 6: Today was six ninety two?

2210
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 1: Excuse me? See three years and yeah, I got mixed up.

2211
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: I got mixed up with this.

2212
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 4: This is the O. G.

2213
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 2: Paine train.

2214
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, oh that's Terry. Is this like Terry Taate?

2215
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, office Linebacker. I used to love those commercials.

2216
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to put on headphones. I believe you

2217
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 6: want to hear.

2218
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 3: That's what these are.

2219
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: This is great because they throw a little Johnny Cash

2220
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: in here. This is awesome.

2221
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 3: Started over jack. When did they stop playing.

2222
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 2: This two years ago? Years ago?

2223
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, there there's a version of it similar.

2224
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: But people are saying, ever since the one left the building,

2225
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: they couldn't play that anymore.

2226
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it, but we bring the O G

2227
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,919
Speaker 6: video back? Titan super Bowl twenty.

2228
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 3: Four, Well, I'll do some research on that, Okay. I

2229
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 3: gotta figure out why I went away in the first place. Yeah,

2230
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 3: there's nobody knows anymore because I played a Terry Tate

2231
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 3: video one time for the guys. She's an How the

2232
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 3: players looked at me.

2233
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 2: Like what I forget? He can hear me?

2234
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 1: Are you willing to cut your dick off for a

2235
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titan super Bowl? Got two kids, two beautiful children.

2236
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can I don't know if

2237
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 3: I can commit to that part. I got young kids.

2238
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: What are you willing to do for a Tennessee Titans

2239
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: Super Bowl?

2240
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 3: I'd be willing to do quite a bit. Would you

2241
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 3: take off a limb like a finger, let's say whole hand,

2242
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 3: like Ronnie Lott style.

2243
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: Let's say whole hand.

2244
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: Would you go whole hand? Yeah, your dominant hand.

2245
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: My dominant and for Super Bowl? Yeah, for the Tennessee

2246
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 3: Titans as the head coach. That would be pretty that

2247
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 3: would be pretty sweet.

2248
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 1: Old man gets one. Yeah. Jack McPherson gets one.

2249
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 3: That's the most important, most important.

2250
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Garrett Hargas gets one. Sorry you didn't speak. I was

2251
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 1: wrapped up.

2252
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: Would you take off that dominant hand?

2253
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 3: That hm hmm. That would be tough. That would be

2254
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: tough to That would be tough to offer up. But

2255
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 3: in fairness to the commitment, I could, I could be

2256
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 3: If that's what it meant, I would. I would give

2257
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 3: it some consideration that.

2258
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: This is a answer no question. Are you willing to

2259
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: now that we've narrowed it down to a dominant hand,

2260
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,799
Speaker 1: would you cut off your right hand for a Tennessee

2261
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: Titans Super Bowl?

2262
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 3: I cannot cut off my right hand. Because now here's

2263
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 3: the problem. Here's the problem. I get into that same

2264
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 3: situation again and someone says, I heard you would cut

2265
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 3: your hand off. Yeah, you'd have to have some incredible

2266
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 3: commitment to the process.

2267
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 1: How about this.

2268
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you finally do it, and then you

2269
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 3: could bag then you could well afterwards, then you can

2270
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 3: back at the commitment. What's the fun in that?

2271
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: Right? Two options? I'm gonna give you two options. There's

2272
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: a classic locker room where a gun to your head

2273
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: you have to choose one. Yeah, would you rather for

2274
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: a Titan super Bowl, lose one testicle or get a

2275
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: busting with the boys? Tramp Stamp Championship twenty twenty four,

2276
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 1: tramp stamp on your low back.

2277
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll do I'll do the tramp stamp. Yeah, I

2278
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:35,560
Speaker 3: could do that.

2279
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 6: We got.

2280
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 3: I did a tattoo for it.

2281
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: Took us a couple of ways.

2282
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 2: From he said, a little too easy. Tramp stamp.

2283
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no problem, he's actually a tattoo one.

2284
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can do it over the one I already get.

2285
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Garrett, I did not give you opportunity to time out,

2286
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: time out, time out.

2287
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 2: He never got a chance to answer the uh to

2288
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 2: say if he's going to bring back pain train or

2289
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: Jack an opportunity to maybe one day swing this.

2290
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:00,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he told me. He told me to a swush.

2291
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I was like, we're getting right into it right now.

2292
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 1: That is that's my fault.

2293
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 3: I'm realizing that I gotta do the research on the video. Yeah,

2294
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 3: we pain details on that because I don't know what.

2295
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 3: I've never even heard of it. I didn't know, So

2296
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 3: let's let me it plays in the fourth quarter, right, Yeah?

2297
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 3: Oh is that what it was? The fourth quarter? Like

2298
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 3: like renegade style in Pittsburgh Like that's yeah, yes, that's

2299
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 3: to kick.

2300
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 2: Off that fourth quarter.

2301
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that train.

2302
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 2: You know the fans want to maybe you ask questions.

2303
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can do I can. I can at least

2304
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 3: give you that.

2305
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 2: I'll look into it, that's all I'm asking.

2306
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, the shorge, the swords new for me too. I

2307
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 3: gotta figure out what and maybe.

2308
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 6: The sword just so it's a little bit more enticing

2309
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 6: for y'all's demographic. Maybe we bring Will and Taylor x

2310
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 6: Titans out there too, then they can help and we

2311
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 6: can all as a team slam that sword in the ground.

2312
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 1: We just both get on the knee and handed to Jack,

2313
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: no doubt.

2314
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly Jack, and hold it together and put

2315
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 2: the round boys, twelfth Man and just King Arthur.

2316
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

2317
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have anything? Yeah, I got a question.

2318
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 5: So, with the addition to the weapons on offense and

2319
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 5: a unfortunate Titans fan base that can be fair weathered,

2320
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 5: what can the fan base look forward to this coming season?

2321
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think that we're gonna have a I think

2322
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 3: we have a team of guys that are that are

2323
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,759
Speaker 3: hungry to prove I know not I know the perception

2324
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 3: of us outside of of our building is not high.

2325
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 3: I think we have a lot of people that don't

2326
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 3: think that we're gonna be much and I think that's

2327
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 3: where we want to be right now, and then we

2328
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 3: have a chance to to prove a lot of people,

2329
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 3: a lot of opinions wrong. I think we're made I

2330
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 3: think we have a team that's made up to do it.

2331
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 3: You're gonna have it. They're gonna play hard as hell,

2332
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 3: there's gonna be I think we're gonna have fun playing together.

2333
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:53,759
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see the energy and the connection

2334
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 3: amongst the team, and at the end of the day,

2335
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 3: the guys that we brought in he pairing with the

2336
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room is we got some guys

2337
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 3: that play football a particular way. And that's as as

2338
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 3: Dinard Wilson, our defensive courtinator, says, we've got some dogs

2339
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 3: and he says d A W G. And that stands

2340
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 3: for disciplined assholes with grit, And I like that. But

2341
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 3: I think that's the image that especially on defense too,

2342
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 3: with with Lagerious and cheetoh ating them at corner. You

2343
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 3: have big sweat and there in the middle and Sebastian

2344
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 3: Joseph Day and your pair them with Jefferin. I think

2345
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 3: there's some really cool things happening on defense that I'm

2346
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:33,679
Speaker 3: really excited about. And so again I can't make predictions

2347
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 3: and promises and proclamations, but as far as the people

2348
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 3: and what the team looks like, I think you're gonna

2349
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:40,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a product that people are gonna be

2350
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 3: excited to come.

2351
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: Watch, show up to the games.

2352
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 3: People. I said, look, I said I said it in

2353
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 3: my opening press conference. I said it like we need

2354
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 3: the city of Nashville and Titans fans like we need them.

2355
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 3: We need the stadium to be a place that people

2356
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 3: come to and are like, oh man, I don't want

2357
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 3: to go play in Nashville. This like, that's what looking for.

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Speaker 3: We need that environment. So all the fants Titans fans

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Speaker 3: out there listening to come on, come on, man, we

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Speaker 3: need everybody on board, and hopefully you get in early

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Speaker 3: enough and you don't get accused of jumping on the

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Speaker 3: bandwagon when when things go right.

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Speaker 1: That's a good well, yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: All core of a Titans fan base out there for sure.

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Speaker 1: Every Yeah, every franchise has their five percent, like that

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Speaker 1: five percent crazy fan base, and the Titans five percent

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Speaker 1: is strong. That's great. I love that. It's they're crazy

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Speaker 1: people in the best way possible.

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Speaker 3: That's what you need. That's that's what makes the NFL

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Matt neely Man, Yeah, he was the one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 1: This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: This is fun and an hour forty with the head

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Speaker 3: ball coach. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Bill listens.

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Speaker 3: I can't promise you that I'll listen, but I hope

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Speaker 3: he does. Just know that we might have to say hey, will.

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Speaker 2: Say you hope he listens to that.

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Speaker 3: I think we can probably make that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 1: We will be flying the Titans flag all season long.

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Speaker 1: I love on this bus. We'll be supporting you the

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Speaker 1: whole time. We appreciate you coming.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that from from you guys. Thanks for having me

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Speaker 3: on man. This is wo appreciate you enjoyed it.

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