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Speaker 1: some breaking news with college football to bring to your attention.
Speaker 1: It's been a wild twenty four hours for college football.
Speaker 1: Some of the headlines here. The Mid American Conference has
Speaker 1: decided that they're not going to play fall football. Big
Speaker 1: ten and the Pac twelve are on the fence right now.
Speaker 1: The ACC and the SEC and the Big twelve might
Speaker 1: try to cobble together a schedule involving those conferences. But
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Speaker 1: and sixty two. Here's the information I got almost an
Speaker 1: hour ago. The Big Ten and PAC twelve will cancel
Speaker 1: their football seasons tomorrow. The ACC and the Big twelve
Speaker 1: are on the fence. The SEC is trying to get
Speaker 1: a delay to have teams join them. The SEC is
Speaker 1: looking at exclusive TV contracts. So once again, then I
Speaker 1: followed up with my source and I said, so the
Speaker 1: Big ten and PAC twelve canceled tomorrow. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: told this morning. Three Big ten teams that I've spoken
Speaker 1: with said it's done. And I followed up by saying,
Speaker 1: so the SEC might go alone and bring in other schools.
Speaker 1: That's the latest. They're trying to buy time, according to
Speaker 1: my source, to see if the ACC or Big twelve
Speaker 1: will go along with them. So that's the information I've
Speaker 1: got this morning. And I was, you know, in touch
Speaker 1: with my source over the weekend. You know that the
Speaker 1: commissioners met last night, and you know as of yesterday,
Speaker 1: well last night at seven o'clock, the Big ten may
Speaker 1: pull the plug tomorrow morning. I even had my source
Speaker 1: telling me on some of the votes the Big Ten
Speaker 1: presidents twelve to two not to play. PAC twelve doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be the first to cancel. Oklahoma and Texas
Speaker 1: are fighting the rest of the Big twelve to try
Speaker 1: to salvage the season. Mid American Conference dropped the football
Speaker 1: season in the fall. They don't have the money to
Speaker 1: test safety a big issue, but money was the impetus.
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois was pulling out and that led the charge
Speaker 1: in the Mid American Conference. So there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: It could still change. My source said, hey, everything is
Speaker 1: on the table right now. It is the wild Wild West.
Speaker 1: But the latest is that the Big Ten and PAC
Speaker 1: twelve will cancel tomorrow. Acc Big twelve on the fence.
Speaker 1: The SEC is trying to get a delay to have
Speaker 1: teams join them. The SEC is looking at exclusive TV contracts.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Pat Fortio covers college football. He'll
Speaker 1: join us on loan from Sports Illustrated. But this is
Speaker 1: our to our Yeah, it is fluid. You got players
Speaker 1: who want to play, and you know, so you know,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is out there, you know, saying hey, we
Speaker 1: want to play. You've got a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are involved in this. You know, politics is playing a
Speaker 1: role in this. Certain states, certain conferences, commissioners. What's the
Speaker 1: NCAA do. It's all on the table. But as I
Speaker 1: get more information, I'll let you know. But that's the
Speaker 1: latest as of you know, nine oh five Eastern this morning.
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Speaker 1: information gets out, you'll probably have one or two of
Speaker 1: these conferences refuting what I'm saying here. But there nobody's
Speaker 1: ready to announce anything yet. This is what I'm told
Speaker 1: that the announcement will be with PAC twelve Big ten.
Speaker 1: It's scheduled to be tomorrow morning. But I was told this,
Speaker 1: and this was really important. Nobody wants to be the
Speaker 1: first of the Big five conferences to tap out first.
Speaker 1: That the PAC twelve is probably going to be that conference.
Speaker 1: But it feels like the Big Ten is going to
Speaker 1: take the initiative here and then you're going to have
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. You got Oaklhoman, Texas saying to these
Speaker 1: other schools, we want to play and we need you
Speaker 1: to play here. And I don't know where those votes are.
Speaker 1: I just know it was overwhelming that the Big Ten,
Speaker 1: with their presidents, they were not going to play football.
Speaker 1: Twelve to two, that was the vote total. PAC twelve
Speaker 1: wants to do the same, just didn't want to be
Speaker 1: the first to do it. Big ten could do it
Speaker 1: and wouldn't take as much You receive as much criticism
Speaker 1: or blowback as the Pac twelve foot from what I'm told.
Speaker 1: But the SEC, with what's going on, trying to see
Speaker 1: what they can salvage here and maybe you have a
Speaker 1: college football season. Maybe it's the SEC and it's only
Speaker 1: the SEC. But and I didn't get this answer yet
Speaker 1: from my source, and maybe Pat Forty can tell me,
Speaker 1: is what changed. You had conference schedules that went out
Speaker 1: last week, We had the ACC and then the SEC,
Speaker 1: we had the Big Ten. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: in the span of five days. So in the span
Speaker 1: of five five days. Something happened, something changed, because the
Speaker 1: Big Ten put out their schedule five days ago. So now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I got twelve to two vote
Speaker 1: that the Big Ten is not gonna play football. Now,
Speaker 1: remember when Connecticut canceled their fall program, football program, and
Speaker 1: I said, well, there's a couple of things there. They're
Speaker 1: an independent, they were losing some games on their schedule.
Speaker 1: It's not a big revenue producing Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: and we wondered if other schools conferences would follow suit.
Speaker 1: And from what I'm told, what happened with Connecticut did
Speaker 1: not impact would not impact the Power five conferences because
Speaker 1: they do have the money for testing. They do have
Speaker 1: the safety precautions in guidelines that would be in place here.
Speaker 1: So that's what's confusing. It feels like there were for
Speaker 1: some of these bigger schools, the opportunity to stay safer
Speaker 1: being on campus, getting tested, actually being part of the
Speaker 1: football program. I don't know what happened in five days,
Speaker 1: but something did you know? And I said this last week,
Speaker 1: it felt like some people were in denial. If we
Speaker 1: have football, great all four it wont it needed. It
Speaker 1: certainly makes my job easier, but it felt like we
Speaker 1: were in denial of trying to pull this off. My
Speaker 1: source said, the NFL is going to happen. The NFL
Speaker 1: will start the season. He said, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they'll finish this season, but they will start the season.
Speaker 1: He said, you can guarantee that. But college football, he said,
Speaker 1: it just there's there's too many moving parts. You know,
Speaker 1: the NFL might be like Major League Baseball. I mean,
Speaker 1: major League Baseball is somehow going to get through this,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be a mess because they had
Speaker 1: another rough week. You know, the Cardinals. When are they
Speaker 1: gonna How are they going to get all these games in?
Speaker 1: Do you realize the Miami Marlins are going to play
Speaker 1: fifteen games in eleven days and four double headers and
Speaker 1: they're bringing people off the street right now. How are
Speaker 1: you going to I mean, the pitching staffs here. I
Speaker 1: guess there's somehow As I told you from the beginning,
Speaker 1: all they wanted to do is get to the postseason.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all they want to do. Get to
Speaker 1: the postseason. Just saw this from Tom Pellicero his tweets
Speaker 1: on the NFL Draft. Tom works for the NFL Network.
Speaker 1: IF College football moves to the spring. What happens to
Speaker 1: the draft scheduled for April twenty nine through May first
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. The Collective Bargaining Agreement says each draft shall
Speaker 1: be held no later than June first, so when he
Speaker 1: delayed beyond that would require approval by the players Union.
Speaker 1: I'm told even spring football is a dream right now,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know, are we going to
Speaker 1: have a vaccine? Like what would be different in the
Speaker 1: spring that we don't have? Now? That's what I was told.
Speaker 1: Once again, it's a lot to take in, and it
Speaker 1: was a lot for me to take in an hour ago,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're going, okay, Big
Speaker 1: ten PAC twelve canceled tomorrow a SEC Big twelve on
Speaker 1: the fence. SEC is trying to see if they can
Speaker 1: pick off some of these schools and see if they
Speaker 1: want to join them. Now, can you get I don't
Speaker 1: know that the two schools in the Big ten. I
Speaker 1: have an idea that they probably said that they wanted
Speaker 1: to play football each other. I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure because look, Wisconsin's big revenue producing, Penn State big
Speaker 1: revenue obviously, Ohio State. Then you have Michigan, Michigan State.
Speaker 1: But I can ask my source if you know, can
Speaker 1: you tell me the two schools or the two presidents
Speaker 1: that said, no, we want to play in the Big ten.
Speaker 1: But if you can get Texas in Oklahoma from the
Speaker 1: Big twelve and they're going to join you in the SEC,
Speaker 1: you got a super conference. But this year is going
Speaker 1: to change the NCAA. It is, it will change. We're
Speaker 1: going to eventually redefine the NCAA in a lot of
Speaker 1: different categories. Here. Can you get unions here? What about pay?
Speaker 1: You know you had the PAC twelve commissioner Larry Scott
Speaker 1: who said, this is a pr move by these players
Speaker 1: in the in the Pac twelve and he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to address it anymore. So things are changing, seismic shifts here.
Speaker 1: But college football as we know it is not gonna
Speaker 1: play this uh this fall. You might have you might
Speaker 1: have conferences. And you go back to when we had
Speaker 1: the commissioner the SEC on and we've had him on
Speaker 1: a couple of times, Greg sank and I said, can
Speaker 1: we see a scenario where the SEC just plays SEC
Speaker 1: football and that's it? And he didn't want to go
Speaker 1: down that road. But I'm told that's what the SEC.
Speaker 1: The SEC looks at themselves. I mean, they're different, They're
Speaker 1: different than any other school, any other conference, and they're
Speaker 1: approaching it that one would I be surprised if we
Speaker 1: had SEC football and maybe a couple of outliers there. No,
Speaker 1: but I do think these other conferences are probably going
Speaker 1: to close up shop here and I want to I
Speaker 1: want to caution you once again, and this is what
Speaker 1: my source said. This can change. That can change because
Speaker 1: everything has been changing in the span of twenty four
Speaker 1: forty eight seventy two hours. Nobody's going to make an
Speaker 1: announcement today. And I'm sure that people in these local
Speaker 1: markets are going to be calling their athletic directors or
Speaker 1: their coaches and trying to get them on record to say, hey,
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick is saying this. My source is telling me
Speaker 1: right now, this is what's happening in those conferences, and
Speaker 1: this is going to be a long day with college
Speaker 1: football because you're going to have a lot of people
Speaker 1: trying to make a decision and they might not be
Speaker 1: ready to make that decision. Now you have to all
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Speaker 1: I told the dan Uts, I said, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this news is going to last at the top
Speaker 1: of the hour when we start the show, but I
Speaker 1: got some information for you here. So you guys are
Speaker 1: just hearing it for the first time, and I know
Speaker 1: we have questions. We talked about this pre show. Where
Speaker 1: what change from last week to this week other than
Speaker 1: now we're getting closer that you know, students are going
Speaker 1: back to school. You'll have the risk and the reward
Speaker 1: here there's liability. Liability is the key word that I
Speaker 1: heard over the weekend. Liability. If you know, the students
Speaker 1: go back, they get sick or they're asymptomatic, they come home,
Speaker 1: somebody else gets sick. What if a coach gets sick.
Speaker 1: Just the liability here and the risk and the reward.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a big deal. It is a big deal.
Speaker 1: And you had all these commissioners who had an emergency
Speaker 1: meeting on Sunday. So those are the things that we're discussed, Yeampo.
Speaker 1: I'm most curious other than college footballs is the NFL
Speaker 1: having meetings this morning making plans for the fall. If
Speaker 1: there's no college football, Saturday becomes wide open primetime Saturday
Speaker 1: becomes wide open for them. Are they going to say,
Speaker 1: let's let's get a national TV schedule for Saturdays and
Speaker 1: get it in place in case college football taps out.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works with the collective bargaining
Speaker 1: agreement that it feels like they modified all summer long
Speaker 1: here that why not throw an addendum in there or
Speaker 1: claws in there? But when could you play Saturday football games?
Speaker 1: And how does that affect work week? And don't I
Speaker 1: don't know a lot of money there? Oh, absolutely two
Speaker 1: more national prime a national primetime game on Saturday in
Speaker 1: a national game, even if you just did two games
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Absolutely, Oh, I get it. And with the NFL,
Speaker 1: I'm certain, you know, the the benevolent, philanthropic, all truistic
Speaker 1: NFL would go, well, all right, we're gonna help out
Speaker 1: the college football fans who don't have something to watch,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna play a couple of NFL games on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Maybe ABC wants to pony up a billion dollars and
Speaker 1: that would be nice. I mean, there's no such thing
Speaker 1: as a free lunch. Yes, Todd, I think that's something
Speaker 1: that can totally happen, and I would love to see
Speaker 1: Sally and send the game. Thank you, Todd McClelland you
Speaker 1: got a pull question for me today. Yes, one college
Speaker 1: football question. I don't know if you want to get
Speaker 1: the audiences viewpoint on this. Do you think they should
Speaker 1: have a college football season? How do you think the
Speaker 1: audience would vote? Well, we want it to happen. I
Speaker 1: mean that's why when I hear you know, some of
Speaker 1: these analysts are hosts saying that there are people in
Speaker 1: the media rooting against this. I'm not. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be. I'm I'm not that insecure that I want
Speaker 1: to be the guy who says I told you so.
Speaker 1: I would love to be told over and over and
Speaker 1: over that I was wrong about this because it makes
Speaker 1: my job harder. College football is fun. Love it. I
Speaker 1: watched maction, I watched Tuesday Night or Wednesday games. I
Speaker 1: watched the whack, the mac, the sack, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a sack, but I'm
Speaker 1: watching it so wack. I'm watching the shack the mac
Speaker 1: and the whack or something like that, but I'm not
Speaker 1: rooting against it. Yeah, we get the commissioner of the
Speaker 1: sack on yea, did I have we called for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's hard to get. Yeah, um he's nuts. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I want football, love football, not rooting against. It's not like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know I need my ego stroke
Speaker 1: just so I could say I told you so. God.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. I thought I didn't think the
Speaker 1: NBA was going to happen. It's here, and I've heard
Speaker 1: from friends saying, yeah, I thought you said it wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Absolutely, I said baseball would start. I didn't
Speaker 1: think baseball would finish. Maybe it will. But just to understand,
Speaker 1: my opinions are facts. They're based in getting information from somebody.
Speaker 1: It's not where I go. I'm hearing and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: this might happen. I don't do that to you. I've
Speaker 1: given you information that I get. I take no pride,
Speaker 1: no glee in going, hey, I'm hearing in the PAC
Speaker 1: twelve in Big ten are going to shut down football
Speaker 1: this season. None don't need a scoop, don't need my
Speaker 1: name and headlines with it. But for this audience, I'm
Speaker 1: true to you and what I tell you, But I
Speaker 1: don't take any joy whatsoever, saying boy can't wait to
Speaker 1: tell them and break the news here. I'm not Woe
Speaker 1: or Jay Glazer Adam Schefter. That's not my job. But
Speaker 1: when we have it, hopefully we present it to you
Speaker 1: in a professional way. If I get more information, i'll
Speaker 1: tell you, I'll update you on it. But I trust
Speaker 1: my sources. They've given me great information, you know, the
Speaker 1: last decade, and I trust him in this situation as well. Yes, PAULI,
Speaker 1: By the way, the sack is real, Dan, don't sleep
Speaker 1: on the sack. The South Athletic Conference, Cataba, Carson Newman,
Speaker 1: Lenore Ryan a limestone amongst the luminaries, and that they're
Speaker 1: based in Rockhill, South Carolina. The South Athletic Conference. Remember
Speaker 1: the Kataba claud Dan, you remember, Yeah, I have a jersey.
Speaker 1: I have somebody sent me one of their jerseys. All right,
Speaker 1: let me take a break here. Did Lance all Worth
Speaker 1: go to Cataba? Wasn't he? No? He went to Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I think I think Lance Bucky Pope was the Cataba
Speaker 1: Claw Bucky Pope, Yes, the Cataba claud He's a wider
Speaker 1: sack legend, sack legend. If you criticize him, you know
Speaker 1: what it is, Todd. They're getting a little testy sacrilegious.
Speaker 1: That was a real duel, right, they all get a
Speaker 1: little tests. I'm making fun of the side. I'm just say, okay,
Speaker 1: we can make anything in a cred humor. I start
Speaker 1: out with college football is gonna pick the curtains coming
Speaker 1: down on college football? All right, let me take a
Speaker 1: break here, Pat four is Pat forty joining us? But
Speaker 1: that's a good pole question. Sacrilegious or testing? Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: tell forty what my information is so he's not surprised
Speaker 1: when he joins us. Here. Um, it's twenty after the hour.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that ten of the twelve presidents in the
Speaker 1: Big ten from my source voted twelve, that is, at
Speaker 1: twelve or fourteen voted not to. They don't want to
Speaker 1: have a football season, So twelve or fourteen don't want
Speaker 1: to have a fall football season. And we were speculating
Speaker 1: who would be the two that did want to have
Speaker 1: a football season those schools, those presidents were pushing for.
Speaker 1: We want to go around and guests here the two schools,
Speaker 1: two presidents. Then we'll get to Pat forty here, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. I'm absolutely sure one of them
Speaker 1: I would better week's pay. Nebraska is one of the
Speaker 1: two teams that voted to play here. The other one
Speaker 1: I gotta go to Ohio State. All right, you got
Speaker 1: one to two. McLevin. You want to jump in and
Speaker 1: try to find the other one. Well, I kind of
Speaker 1: thought Ohio State and Michigan duspeases of the rivalry. Nope,
Speaker 1: Todd Ohio State and Michigan State, Nope. Seaton o'counter Iowa.
Speaker 1: Iowa is the other one. Nebraska and Iowa were the
Speaker 1: two that I'm told their presidents were pushing to play.
Speaker 1: Once again, this can all change. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that I put that out there. It can all change,
Speaker 1: because it has all changed here in the last five
Speaker 1: to seven days. Here. Let's bring in Pat forty Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated senior writer. Here. You're usually the one the bearer
Speaker 1: of bad news, but I beat you to the punch
Speaker 1: here fifteen minutes ago. Here, Pat, So just a recap.
Speaker 1: We got the Big ten and Pac twelve. They are
Speaker 1: scheduled to cancel Fall sports coming up tomorrow. You have
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, and you have the ACC on the fence,
Speaker 1: and the SEC is looking at TV contracts see if
Speaker 1: they can maybe bring in some schools. So what has happened?
Speaker 1: What has changed since last week here? Well, a few
Speaker 1: things has changed I mean only in college sports, Dan,
Speaker 1: is it possible that you're releasing schedules all last week
Speaker 1: getting people excited, and then on Saturday morning, basically Northern
Speaker 1: Illinois goes into a meeting in the Mid American Conference
Speaker 1: says we're not playing, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: if you're not going to play, maybe we shouldn't play.
Speaker 1: And then the Mid American Conference, the number nine or
Speaker 1: ten conference in the nation, says we're not going to play,
Speaker 1: and nobody else is like, Oh, I guess we're not
Speaker 1: going to play either. It's I mean, it's unbelievable that
Speaker 1: this could happen in the space of a weekend. Now.
Speaker 1: I think the Big Ten was tracking that way all along,
Speaker 1: or certainly for the last week. Even before that. Kevin Warren,
Speaker 1: the commissioner, has been the most cautious and guarded of
Speaker 1: all the Power five commissioners talking about the season. I
Speaker 1: think the wins were blowing that way strongly during the week.
Speaker 1: The Mid American Conference probably stuck a finger in the
Speaker 1: air and said, if the Big ten's going, we're probably
Speaker 1: going to go first. Yeah, it felt like that you
Speaker 1: got the commissioners together that they wanted to be all
Speaker 1: in on this and not have, you know, an outlier,
Speaker 1: and the SEC may be that outlier, but we thought
Speaker 1: that that was a possibility anyway the last couple of
Speaker 1: months here, I know that the PAC twelve didn't want
Speaker 1: to be the first to announce this. Then I think
Speaker 1: the Big ten was maybe going to take that preemptive
Speaker 1: strike and sorry will be the ones to announce it,
Speaker 1: and then the PAC twelve. I don't know what happens
Speaker 1: with the ACC in the Big twelve, but could you
Speaker 1: see where the SEC goes alone and says we're going
Speaker 1: to play X number of games here and have a
Speaker 1: conference champion and we'll have a mythical national champion. I
Speaker 1: think it'd be highly improbable. We reported last night and
Speaker 1: really over the weekend that by the end of this
Speaker 1: week everybody will be out. There will be no fall football,
Speaker 1: you know. I think that I think the Big twelve
Speaker 1: is closer to going the way of the Big Ten
Speaker 1: and PAC twelve than most people think. The ACC is
Speaker 1: more closely in line with where the SEC is, but
Speaker 1: I think ultimately they all realize we're not going to play.
Speaker 1: There may still be some people pushing for it in
Speaker 1: the SEC. But here's why you can't really be the
Speaker 1: outlier and go it alone. First of all, if all
Speaker 1: the other conferences, with all of their medical experts and
Speaker 1: all their presidents say we don't think it is safe
Speaker 1: for the players, is the SEC supill say we really
Speaker 1: don't care. Well, let's stay for the players. If we're
Speaker 1: going because we like football, I don't think that's going
Speaker 1: to happen. And the other thing is a lot of
Speaker 1: the state schools in that league have pushed really hard
Speaker 1: at the presidential level to enhance the academic profiles of
Speaker 1: their schools, specifically Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina.
Speaker 1: They want out of state tuition dollars by making the
Speaker 1: school a better place. If you say we're a football
Speaker 1: power and we want to play football, we don't care
Speaker 1: about the pandemic, that's not going to help you at
Speaker 1: admissions time. How does this affect these players who would
Speaker 1: be eligible for the NFL Draft If you think about it,
Speaker 1: these one year wonders that we've had recently, you know,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, where would Joe Burrow be, Kyler Murray, these
Speaker 1: guys who you know I'm talking about in just quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of positions here. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of players who came out of nowhere. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow was a fifth round draft pick and then he
Speaker 1: had the magical season and is the number one pick overall.
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins comes out of nowhere, Kyler Murray out of baseball.
Speaker 1: What do they do? I don't know. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: it's tough for those guys. You feel bad. Look, I
Speaker 1: feel bad for all the players. And it's been amazing
Speaker 1: to watch, you know, Tyler or Trevor Lawrence basically Union
Speaker 1: heist college football at midnight last night. You know, these
Speaker 1: guys they want to play, A lot of them do.
Speaker 1: And yeah, for the for the established stars who aren't
Speaker 1: going to play because they're not there's no way they're
Speaker 1: playing in the spring, to the up and coming guys,
Speaker 1: to the hidden gems that you were talking about, this
Speaker 1: takes away a big opportunity for them. And yeah, you
Speaker 1: can try to play in the spring, sure, and some
Speaker 1: guys would be happy to play and try to help
Speaker 1: improve their stock then, but this is I mean, it
Speaker 1: puts a major crimping in the entire trickle down of
Speaker 1: football from the NFL through college to high school recruiting.
Speaker 1: Everything is on hold and up in the air. What
Speaker 1: do you think happens today? You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: whether if you know, if the Big Ten will wait
Speaker 1: until tomorrow on this there's a scheduled meeting for PAC
Speaker 1: twelve presidents tomorrow, or if something happens today, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would expect as you as you
Speaker 1: obviously said, those two are going to be probably first.
Speaker 1: I do think the Big Ten was trying to get
Speaker 1: everybody on the same page since everybody was mad at
Speaker 1: the Big Ten in July for preempting everyone on the schedule.
Speaker 1: They were all supposed to be on the same page then.
Speaker 1: But I think the other conferences too are going to
Speaker 1: be right there behind them as far as the group
Speaker 1: of five leagues you know, today, here's what I think today.
Speaker 1: The players will continue to make a social media push
Speaker 1: to try to make their voices heard to say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's reconsider and good for them, but it's not going
Speaker 1: to be enough. Yeah. I was told liability, that was
Speaker 1: the key word, that liability with these universities. And if
Speaker 1: something happens and you know what it would cost them,
Speaker 1: you know, the risk and the reward the risk isn't
Speaker 1: worth the reward. But can you make a case, though,
Speaker 1: pent that at these Power five conferences, who do have
Speaker 1: the money to test, and you know, unlike the Mid
Speaker 1: American Conference, that they are safer on campus, then maybe
Speaker 1: they would be if they were at home and you know, socializing. Sure. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing. I mean, the players shouldn't
Speaker 1: will probably stand on campus. I mean, unless these campuses
Speaker 1: are going to close down to students, most of them
Speaker 1: aren't having students on campus. Not all of them, but
Speaker 1: most of them. So you know, I don't anticipate the
Speaker 1: Ohio State team and the Michigan team going home per se.
Speaker 1: I think they will stay there unless they want to
Speaker 1: opt out and work out for the draft. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think you'll stay there and you'll still be in
Speaker 1: a situation where you're probably getting routine testing and you're
Speaker 1: working out there, and they're trying to make things as
Speaker 1: safe as possible. I think another big factor Dan is
Speaker 1: worry about heart conditions. There's been a few players here
Speaker 1: and there who have said, hey, my heart is not right.
Speaker 1: There have been doctors who have said they've gotten that
Speaker 1: some players who have had in large heartsmile carditis, and
Speaker 1: that really got the attention to the presidents. My colleague
Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger did a good story on that, just that
Speaker 1: you start talking to presidents about unknown law term heart
Speaker 1: damage and to your point of liability, do you want
Speaker 1: to be on the hook if you've got five players
Speaker 1: with heart damage? Yeah, you bring that up. And I
Speaker 1: was told that they're seeing players if they may be asymptomatic,
Speaker 1: but a couple of weeks after the fact, they're starting
Speaker 1: to see some issues with their hearts with some of
Speaker 1: these players. Granted it might be a small sample here,
Speaker 1: but these are things that you know, a university is liable,
Speaker 1: and they realize this that just you know, what would
Speaker 1: happen with lawsuits here if something happened. So I think
Speaker 1: that's why they're you know, I think they were in
Speaker 1: denial for a long time, and I just think that
Speaker 1: now as we get closer to classes starting and kids
Speaker 1: coming on campus, the reality hit home. Yeah, now that
Speaker 1: they pushed the decision so far down the road as
Speaker 1: far as they could, and we're in denial, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we can pull this off, can't we Sure we can.
Speaker 1: Let's put on a show, and you know, the closer
Speaker 1: you get to it, the more there's just too many
Speaker 1: problems facing it. And now you know, we'll see if
Speaker 1: they can get together and come up with a plan
Speaker 1: for the spring. There's no good spring options. But is
Speaker 1: there in a spring option that's close enough too good
Speaker 1: that you can do or have they just been sitting
Speaker 1: there with wishful thinking about the fallow and not even
Speaker 1: thought about the spring yet. Yeah? If you could interview
Speaker 1: one person on the record involved in all of this,
Speaker 1: who would you want to interview? Coach player? I think
Speaker 1: I would interview probably Jane Smith at Ohio State, the
Speaker 1: athletic director there, because you know, they're the flagship program
Speaker 1: of that conference, and I think he's a smart man
Speaker 1: and they've got a great season ahead. But they're putting
Speaker 1: on the brakes on this, and I want to know
Speaker 1: what exactly are the concerns from a health standpoint that
Speaker 1: have made you want to stop an incredibly good season
Speaker 1: at a place that cares incredibly much about college football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the surprising element here. When I told you that
Speaker 1: there were two schools in the Big Ten that were
Speaker 1: pushing to play, you probably would have thought Ohio State
Speaker 1: for sure. And now I find out that it's Nebraska
Speaker 1: and it's Iowa. Does that surprise you at all? Nebraska
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all. The second one from England's
Speaker 1: I had gotten it wasn't going to be Ohio state.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe Perdue because Mitch Daniels, the president they're
Speaker 1: former governor of Indiana, has been pretty bullish on trying
Speaker 1: to let's reopen, let's normalize. So I wouldn't have guessed Iowa,
Speaker 1: but Nebraska. Yeah, good to talk to you again, Pat,
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. It is always great. Great work
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Thank you Optimism twenty twenty one. Pat forty,
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Senior writer. Yeah. Sports Illustrated did a great
Speaker 1: job over the weekend with some of their information as well.
Speaker 1: Following them, we got to pull question McLevin. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put up if you're okay with it. Do you think
Speaker 1: they should have a season? I know everyone wants one.
Speaker 1: It sounds like we're not going to have one, But
Speaker 1: do you think that they should? Is everyone gonna just
Speaker 1: say yes because it's wishful thinking? Probably? So? I mean,
Speaker 1: I would hope they had a football season. I was
Speaker 1: just you know, I was stuck in reality here where
Speaker 1: I just said, I just don't see it's happening. And
Speaker 1: you know, so Pat was backing up what I said.
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois said to everybody else in the Mid American Conference,
Speaker 1: the other presidents, hey, we're not playing, and that's when
Speaker 1: the Mid American Conference goes. Then we're not playing as
Speaker 1: a conference. It would have looked really bad if Northern
Speaker 1: Illinois and maybe Northern Illinois started the avalanche here because
Speaker 1: then it's the Mid American Conference. Now. Granted I was
Speaker 1: told they don't have the money. It's not a revenue
Speaker 1: producing you know, sport the way it is in the
Speaker 1: Power five conferences. But it's still a very respectable conference.
Speaker 1: And when they decided that they weren't going to do this,
Speaker 1: then you start to look around and these commissioners and
Speaker 1: these presidents, the athletic directors. Then you have to you
Speaker 1: have to you know what the optics are going to be.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, they care about their students and student athletes,
Speaker 1: but you don't, because that's the way it's going to
Speaker 1: be portrayed. That'll be the spin on this. All right,
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Speaker 1: I looked at the time and I'm like, oh, I know,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a little fired up today, probably because
Speaker 1: of all this bad news breaking news with college football
Speaker 1: here Mark and Florida leads this off. Hi, Mark, what
Speaker 1: do you have for me today? And five ten, one fifty, um, So,
Speaker 1: best of the weekend is the Oakland A's and Sheath
Speaker 1: and asshows fight. And worst of the weekend is my
Speaker 1: Pelicans getting eliminated from the playoff contention. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: disappointed in Lonzo Ball. He was he was really subpar
Speaker 1: in the bubble. And you know, Zion's got something to
Speaker 1: work on here. They do have a nucleus there, but
Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball has got to be a whole lot better.
Speaker 1: And I really thought that we were starting to see
Speaker 1: the true promise of Lonzo Ball. I know it's a
Speaker 1: small sample size, but ma'am, is he disappointing in the
Speaker 1: bubble and now it looks like you're gonna have your
Speaker 1: your play in game. I don't know who's gonna make it.
Speaker 1: Is Memphis gonna hold on and maybe be part of
Speaker 1: the play in game. I saw where the Clippers want
Speaker 1: the Lakers to face the Blazers. I don't know are
Speaker 1: they manipulating the schedule here of who plays and who
Speaker 1: doesn't play here? But I know that they want the
Speaker 1: Blazers to face the Lakers because the Clippers reportedly think
Speaker 1: the Blazers can beat the Lakers here. Yes, MC lovin
Speaker 1: a lot of overreactions to the eight game Bubble regular
Speaker 1: season out there, That's all I'm saying, What do you mean?
Speaker 1: I'm saying people are reading a lot into these stat
Speaker 1: lines as if the Lakers and Clippers are trying. Lakers
Speaker 1: are two and for it. Everyone's like, oh, sky is falling,
Speaker 1: and the Luca scores fifty points a game, and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at him dominating. I'm just saying that the good
Speaker 1: teams are resting their players. I think that's an underrated
Speaker 1: aspect of this. So wait a minute, is this a
Speaker 1: knock on my boy Luca or on other guys who
Speaker 1: are putting up big numbers in the bubble. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the Bucks played the MAVs, and the MAVs won,
Speaker 1: and Luca all of a sudden became one of the
Speaker 1: top ten players of all time. Did the great freak
Speaker 1: playing again? He did, but he played twelve less minutes
Speaker 1: in Luca because and also everyone's saying like, oh, Lebron
Speaker 1: is not trying. Wait till Lebron turns it on in
Speaker 1: a week. They don't. Doesn't mean anything. When the Clippers struggle,
Speaker 1: it's not headline worthy. When the Lakers struggle, it, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that you know that this is the end
Speaker 1: of the world for the Lakers. Clippers lost the Nets
Speaker 1: last Oh I know, nobody cares. I know. But if
Speaker 1: the Lakers had lost to the Nets, oh my god.
Speaker 1: According to Joe Varden of the Athletic Clippers, players actively
Speaker 1: want the Lakers to have to face Portland in the
Speaker 1: first round. They believe the Blazers could actually beat the Lakers.
Speaker 1: The Clippers could have helped increase the likelihood of such
Speaker 1: a scenario Saturday had they lost to Portland, but they
Speaker 1: ultimately won a game that led to some serious bad blood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dame Lillard, who had an unbelievable game yesterday, but he
Speaker 1: put up fifty one McLevin oh on a six or
Speaker 1: team without Simmons, without him beat it was he was
Speaker 1: beating up like G League players and they still almost lost.
Speaker 1: You didn't learn your lesson when I said stay away
Speaker 1: from Luca. You're not gonna win that argum minute. You know,
Speaker 1: I gave up on the Luke argument this weekend, but
Speaker 1: I'm back in. It's all big fake numbers. Who he
Speaker 1: was like thirty seven, nineteen and fifteen the other day?
Speaker 1: Is that that can't be realistic? Nobody's well he had
Speaker 1: thirty something in twenty rebounds and twelve assists. Who It's
Speaker 1: not like it's a one off here. I know it's
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. You've got to stop. Just free your mind.
Speaker 1: The rest will follow mclovin. But I do have a
Speaker 1: great poll question for you later on Luca. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me get a couple more phone calls in here. I
Speaker 1: would have thought after had he had back to back, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna fight you
Speaker 1: on it. I'm not gonna fight you on it. You'd
Speaker 1: actually take Zion over Luca. I'm off that bad biged
Speaker 1: Zion is gonna Zion's biggest competition is going to be
Speaker 1: his body. That's going to be his biggest competition. Can
Speaker 1: he stay out in front of it? Can he be
Speaker 1: healthy enough? Can he be explosive? I watched highlights of
Speaker 1: him at Duke and just on offense because he doesn't
Speaker 1: play any defense. He doesn't like he just sort of
Speaker 1: floats out there. He doesn't play any defense whatsoever. But
Speaker 1: when he runs the break, then you like, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to see what he looked like at Duke, and
Speaker 1: there is a big difference, no pun intended, there's a
Speaker 1: big difference in how he is right now with the
Speaker 1: Pelicans and how he was at Duke Camil. Occasionally he'll
Speaker 1: block a shot into like the eighth row. It's high.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, in college he was doing that. Oh,
Speaker 1: there's no defense, right, But does Luca play defense? He might?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Wait, I'm just saying that he
Speaker 1: doesn't play any defense. So it's not like he's expending
Speaker 1: any energy on the defensive end, and it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he has that much offen, you know, energy on
Speaker 1: the offense. They still scoring at a crazy clip per minute, Zion.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, but Lucas putting up ainteen assists,
Speaker 1: the Greek Freak had one. It's getting harder and harder
Speaker 1: to be on that. And I know that people get
Speaker 1: sensitive with the Larry Bird comparison, but if you he's
Speaker 1: better than Larry Bird right now, but he's only twenty one.
Speaker 1: Burne didn't get into the league too, he's twenty three.
Speaker 1: I think Larry's like sixty right now. That's not fair. Oh,
Speaker 1: I see what you did, McLevin. Yeah, although Larry's probably
Speaker 1: still a better shooter than Luca right now, and I
Speaker 1: will give you that, but Luca is doing things that
Speaker 1: Larry never did. Now, that doesn't mean, you know, is
Speaker 1: Luca going to be like when Larry was thirty, Larry
Speaker 1: was better than Lebron James at thirty, Larry just wash
Speaker 1: and then Lebron didn't start elevating past Larry Bird until
Speaker 1: what three years ago, maybe on people's all time list. Yeah,
Speaker 1: point at the age Luca is now, Larry was a
Speaker 1: junior at Indiana State with one more year to go,
Speaker 1: averaging thirty twelve and four. Yeah, thirty twelve and four.
Speaker 1: Luca's doing twenty nine, eleven and nine now in the NBA.
Speaker 1: At twenty one. I know it's blasphemous to say it,
Speaker 1: and I know it's you know, it's generational. It's the
Speaker 1: game is different now. But Luca is a better basketball
Speaker 1: offensive basketball player than Bird. Right now he is. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna be like in four years,
Speaker 1: five years, You're going to be even better than what
Speaker 1: we see, which would be scary and Bird. I love.
Speaker 1: Bird was fabulous, But Luca's putting up incredible assist totals.
Speaker 1: So it's different. Larry was a point forward, you know,
Speaker 1: Luca is he's a point guard. Yeah, mcclevin. The game
Speaker 1: is spaced differently now. Though Bird might might thrive a
Speaker 1: little more in this a wide open game. Oh, he'd
Speaker 1: be taken, you know, eight to ten threes a game,
Speaker 1: even more than that. At least, I'd want him to
Speaker 1: still want the ball in his hands. Game on the line. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: we'll go inside the bubble. Chris Haynes will join us.
Speaker 1: I always love talking to Chris. Find out is the
Speaker 1: sky falling with the Lakers here and the bad blood
Speaker 1: between the Blazers and Clippers. I love it.