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<v Speaker 1>picture amount of billiach and all the things to try

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<v Speaker 1>mounth and I go. Yeah, I'm trying to picture and

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<v Speaker 1>the other team is screaming and yelling and you can

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<v Speaker 1>you make them stop? Broadcasting from the Mercedes mank this

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<v Speaker 1>gangs out here ready to go on this Monday. Got

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<v Speaker 1>some breaking news with college football to bring to your attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a wild twenty four hours for college football.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the headlines here. The Mid American Conference has

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<v Speaker 1>decided that they're not going to play fall football. Big

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<v Speaker 1>ten and the Pac twelve are on the fence right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The ACC and the SEC and the Big twelve might

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<v Speaker 1>try to cobble together a schedule involving those conferences. But

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<v Speaker 1>once again, I'll have that information for you coming up

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<v Speaker 1>and our radio affiliates around the country numbering three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty two. Here's the information I got almost an

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<v Speaker 1>hour ago. The Big Ten and PAC twelve will cancel

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<v Speaker 1>their football seasons tomorrow. The ACC and the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 1>are on the fence. The SEC is trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>a delay to have teams join them. The SEC is

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<v Speaker 1>looking at exclusive TV contracts. So once again, then I

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<v Speaker 1>followed up with my source and I said, so the

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten and PAC twelve canceled tomorrow. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>told this morning. Three Big ten teams that I've spoken

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<v Speaker 1>with said it's done. And I followed up by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>so the SEC might go alone and bring in other schools.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the latest. They're trying to buy time, according to

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<v Speaker 1>my source, to see if the ACC or Big twelve

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<v Speaker 1>will go along with them. So that's the information I've

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<v Speaker 1>got this morning. And I was, you know, in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with my source over the weekend. You know that the

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<v Speaker 1>commissioners met last night, and you know as of yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>well last night at seven o'clock, the Big ten may

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<v Speaker 1>pull the plug tomorrow morning. I even had my source

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<v Speaker 1>telling me on some of the votes the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>presidents twelve to two not to play. PAC twelve doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be the first to cancel. Oklahoma and Texas

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting the rest of the Big twelve to try

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<v Speaker 1>to salvage the season. Mid American Conference dropped the football

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<v Speaker 1>season in the fall. They don't have the money to

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<v Speaker 1>test safety a big issue, but money was the impetus.

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Illinois was pulling out and that led the charge

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mid American Conference. So there's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It could still change. My source said, hey, everything is

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<v Speaker 1>on the table right now. It is the wild Wild West.

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<v Speaker 1>But the latest is that the Big Ten and PAC

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<v Speaker 1>twelve will cancel tomorrow. Acc Big twelve on the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>The SEC is trying to get a delay to have

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<v Speaker 1>teams join them. The SEC is looking at exclusive TV contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk to Pat Fortio covers college football. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>join us on loan from Sports Illustrated. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>our to our Yeah, it is fluid. You got players

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<v Speaker 1>who want to play, and you know, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence is out there, you know, saying hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to play. You've got a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>are involved in this. You know, politics is playing a

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<v Speaker 1>role in this. Certain states, certain conferences, commissioners. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA do. It's all on the table. But as I

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<v Speaker 1>get more information, I'll let you know. But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>information gets out, you'll probably have one or two of

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<v Speaker 1>these conferences refuting what I'm saying here. But there nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>ready to announce anything yet. This is what I'm told

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<v Speaker 1>that the announcement will be with PAC twelve Big ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scheduled to be tomorrow morning. But I was told this,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was really important. Nobody wants to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first of the Big five conferences to tap out first.

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<v Speaker 1>That the PAC twelve is probably going to be that conference.

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<v Speaker 1>But it feels like the Big Ten is going to

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<v Speaker 1>take the initiative here and then you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve. You got Oaklhoman, Texas saying to these

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<v Speaker 1>other schools, we want to play and we need you

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<v Speaker 1>to play here. And I don't know where those votes are.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know it was overwhelming that the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 1>with their presidents, they were not going to play football.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve to two, that was the vote total. PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do the same, just didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the first to do it. Big ten could do it

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<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't take as much You receive as much criticism

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<v Speaker 1>or blowback as the Pac twelve foot from what I'm told.

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<v Speaker 1>But the SEC, with what's going on, trying to see

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<v Speaker 1>what they can salvage here and maybe you have a

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<v Speaker 1>college football season. Maybe it's the SEC and it's only

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC. But and I didn't get this answer yet

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<v Speaker 1>from my source, and maybe Pat Forty can tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>is what changed. You had conference schedules that went out

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<v Speaker 1>last week, We had the ACC and then the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>we had the Big Ten. I don't know what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the span of five days. So in the span

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<v Speaker 1>of five five days. Something happened, something changed, because the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ten put out their schedule five days ago. So now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I got twelve to two vote

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<v Speaker 1>that the Big Ten is not gonna play football. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Connecticut canceled their fall program, football program, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, there's a couple of things there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>an independent, they were losing some games on their schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a big revenue producing Now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>and we wondered if other schools conferences would follow suit.

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<v Speaker 1>And from what I'm told, what happened with Connecticut did

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<v Speaker 1>not impact would not impact the Power five conferences because

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<v Speaker 1>they do have the money for testing. They do have

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<v Speaker 1>the safety precautions in guidelines that would be in place here.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what's confusing. It feels like there were for

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<v Speaker 1>some of these bigger schools, the opportunity to stay safer

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<v Speaker 1>being on campus, getting tested, actually being part of the

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<v Speaker 1>football program. I don't know what happened in five days,

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<v Speaker 1>but something did you know? And I said this last week,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like some people were in denial. If we

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<v Speaker 1>have football, great all four it wont it needed. It

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<v Speaker 1>certainly makes my job easier, but it felt like we

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<v Speaker 1>were in denial of trying to pull this off. My

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<v Speaker 1>source said, the NFL is going to happen. The NFL

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<v Speaker 1>will start the season. He said, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they'll finish this season, but they will start the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you can guarantee that. But college football, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>it just there's there's too many moving parts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL might be like Major League Baseball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>major League Baseball is somehow going to get through this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be a mess because they had

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<v Speaker 1>another rough week. You know, the Cardinals. When are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna How are they going to get all these games in?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you realize the Miami Marlins are going to play

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen games in eleven days and four double headers and

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<v Speaker 1>they're bringing people off the street right now. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to I mean, the pitching staffs here. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess there's somehow As I told you from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>all they wanted to do is get to the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's all they want to do. Get to

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason. Just saw this from Tom Pellicero his tweets

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<v Speaker 1>on the NFL Draft. Tom works for the NFL Network.

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<v Speaker 1>IF College football moves to the spring. What happens to

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<v Speaker 1>the draft scheduled for April twenty nine through May first

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland. The Collective Bargaining Agreement says each draft shall

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<v Speaker 1>be held no later than June first, so when he

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<v Speaker 1>delayed beyond that would require approval by the players Union.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told even spring football is a dream right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, you know, are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a vaccine? Like what would be different in the

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<v Speaker 1>spring that we don't have? Now? That's what I was told.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, it's a lot to take in, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot for me to take in an hour ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, you're going, okay, Big

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<v Speaker 1>ten PAC twelve canceled tomorrow a SEC Big twelve on

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<v Speaker 1>the fence. SEC is trying to see if they can

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<v Speaker 1>pick off some of these schools and see if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to join them. Now, can you get I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that the two schools in the Big ten. I

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea that they probably said that they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to play football each other. I don't know. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure because look, Wisconsin's big revenue producing, Penn State big

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<v Speaker 1>revenue obviously, Ohio State. Then you have Michigan, Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can ask my source if you know, can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me the two schools or the two presidents

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<v Speaker 1>that said, no, we want to play in the Big ten.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can get Texas in Oklahoma from the

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<v Speaker 1>Big twelve and they're going to join you in the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a super conference. But this year is going

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<v Speaker 1>to change the NCAA. It is, it will change. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to eventually redefine the NCAA in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different categories. Here. Can you get unions here? What about pay?

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<v Speaker 1>You know you had the PAC twelve commissioner Larry Scott

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<v Speaker 1>who said, this is a pr move by these players

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the Pac twelve and he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to address it anymore. So things are changing, seismic shifts here.

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<v Speaker 1>But college football as we know it is not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play this uh this fall. You might have you might

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<v Speaker 1>have conferences. And you go back to when we had

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner the SEC on and we've had him on

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times, Greg sank and I said, can

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<v Speaker 1>we see a scenario where the SEC just plays SEC

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<v Speaker 1>football and that's it? And he didn't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>down that road. But I'm told that's what the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>The SEC looks at themselves. I mean, they're different, They're

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<v Speaker 1>different than any other school, any other conference, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>approaching it that one would I be surprised if we

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<v Speaker 1>had SEC football and maybe a couple of outliers there. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think these other conferences are probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to close up shop here and I want to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to caution you once again, and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>my source said. This can change. That can change because

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<v Speaker 1>everything has been changing in the span of twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight seventy two hours. Nobody's going to make an

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<v Speaker 1>announcement today. And I'm sure that people in these local

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<v Speaker 1>markets are going to be calling their athletic directors or

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<v Speaker 1>their coaches and trying to get them on record to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick is saying this. My source is telling me

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<v Speaker 1>right now, this is what's happening in those conferences, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a long day with college

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<v Speaker 1>football because you're going to have a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a decision and they might not be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to make that decision. Now you have to all

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<v Speaker 1>right eight seven seven three d P show email address

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<v Speaker 1>DP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle A DP show.

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<v Speaker 1>I told the dan Uts, I said, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if this news is going to last at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour when we start the show, but I

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<v Speaker 1>got some information for you here. So you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>just hearing it for the first time, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>we have questions. We talked about this pre show. Where

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<v Speaker 1>what change from last week to this week other than

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<v Speaker 1>now we're getting closer that you know, students are going

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<v Speaker 1>back to school. You'll have the risk and the reward

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<v Speaker 1>here there's liability. Liability is the key word that I

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<v Speaker 1>heard over the weekend. Liability. If you know, the students

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<v Speaker 1>go back, they get sick or they're asymptomatic, they come home,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else gets sick. What if a coach gets sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the liability here and the risk and the reward.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's a big deal. It is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And you had all these commissioners who had an emergency

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<v Speaker 1>meeting on Sunday. So those are the things that we're discussed, Yeampo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm most curious other than college footballs is the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>having meetings this morning making plans for the fall. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's no college football, Saturday becomes wide open primetime Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>becomes wide open for them. Are they going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's get a national TV schedule for Saturdays and

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<v Speaker 1>get it in place in case college football taps out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that works with the collective bargaining

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<v Speaker 1>agreement that it feels like they modified all summer long

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<v Speaker 1>here that why not throw an addendum in there or

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<v Speaker 1>claws in there? But when could you play Saturday football games?

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<v Speaker 1>And how does that affect work week? And don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know a lot of money there? Oh, absolutely two

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<v Speaker 1>more national prime a national primetime game on Saturday in

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<v Speaker 1>a national game, even if you just did two games

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. Absolutely, Oh, I get it. And with the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certain, you know, the the benevolent, philanthropic, all truistic

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<v Speaker 1>NFL would go, well, all right, we're gonna help out

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<v Speaker 1>the college football fans who don't have something to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna play a couple of NFL games on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe ABC wants to pony up a billion dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>that would be nice. I mean, there's no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as a free lunch. Yes, Todd, I think that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that can totally happen, and I would love to see

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<v Speaker 1>Sally and send the game. Thank you, Todd McClelland you

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<v Speaker 1>got a pull question for me today. Yes, one college

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<v Speaker 1>football question. I don't know if you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>the audiences viewpoint on this. Do you think they should

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<v Speaker 1>have a college football season? How do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>audience would vote? Well, we want it to happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's why when I hear you know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these analysts are hosts saying that there are people in

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<v Speaker 1>the media rooting against this. I'm not. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I'm I'm not that insecure that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guy who says I told you so.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to be told over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over that I was wrong about this because it makes

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<v Speaker 1>my job harder. College football is fun. Love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched maction, I watched Tuesday Night or Wednesday games. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched the whack, the mac, the sack, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there is a sack, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching it so wack. I'm watching the shack the mac

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<v Speaker 1>and the whack or something like that, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>rooting against it. Yeah, we get the commissioner of the

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<v Speaker 1>sack on yea, did I have we called for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's hard to get. Yeah, um he's nuts. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want football, love football, not rooting against. It's not like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, you know I need my ego stroke

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<v Speaker 1>just so I could say I told you so. God.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm wrong. I thought I didn't think the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA was going to happen. It's here, and I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from friends saying, yeah, I thought you said it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. Absolutely, I said baseball would start. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think baseball would finish. Maybe it will. But just to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>my opinions are facts. They're based in getting information from somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not where I go. I'm hearing and I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>this might happen. I don't do that to you. I've

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<v Speaker 1>given you information that I get. I take no pride,

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<v Speaker 1>no glee in going, hey, I'm hearing in the PAC

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<v Speaker 1>twelve in Big ten are going to shut down football

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<v Speaker 1>this season. None don't need a scoop, don't need my

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<v Speaker 1>name and headlines with it. But for this audience, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>true to you and what I tell you, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't take any joy whatsoever, saying boy can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them and break the news here. I'm not Woe

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<v Speaker 1>or Jay Glazer Adam Schefter. That's not my job. But

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<v Speaker 1>when we have it, hopefully we present it to you

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<v Speaker 1>in a professional way. If I get more information, i'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I'll update you on it. But I trust

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<v Speaker 1>my sources. They've given me great information, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>last decade, and I trust him in this situation as well. Yes, PAULI,

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the sack is real, Dan, don't sleep

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<v Speaker 1>on the sack. The South Athletic Conference, Cataba, Carson Newman,

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<v Speaker 1>Lenore Ryan a limestone amongst the luminaries, and that they're

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<v Speaker 1>based in Rockhill, South Carolina. The South Athletic Conference. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the Kataba claud Dan, you remember, Yeah, I have a jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>I have somebody sent me one of their jerseys. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me take a break here. Did Lance all Worth

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<v Speaker 1>go to Cataba? Wasn't he? No? He went to Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think Lance Bucky Pope was the Cataba

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<v Speaker 1>Claw Bucky Pope, Yes, the Cataba claud He's a wider

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<v Speaker 1>sack legend, sack legend. If you criticize him, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, Todd. They're getting a little testy sacrilegious.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a real duel, right, they all get a

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<v Speaker 1>little tests. I'm making fun of the side. I'm just say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we can make anything in a cred humor. I start

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<v Speaker 1>out with college football is gonna pick the curtains coming

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<v Speaker 1>down on college football? All right, let me take a

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<v Speaker 1>break here, Pat four is Pat forty joining us? But

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good pole question. Sacrilegious or testing? Okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>tell forty what my information is so he's not surprised

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<v Speaker 1>when he joins us. Here. Um, it's twenty after the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that ten of the twelve presidents in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten from my source voted twelve, that is, at

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<v Speaker 1>twelve or fourteen voted not to. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a football season, So twelve or fourteen don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a fall football season. And we were speculating

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<v Speaker 1>who would be the two that did want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a football season those schools, those presidents were pushing for.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to go around and guests here the two schools,

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<v Speaker 1>two presidents. Then we'll get to Pat forty here, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you. I'm absolutely sure one of them

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<v Speaker 1>I would better week's pay. Nebraska is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>two teams that voted to play here. The other one

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to Ohio State. All right, you got

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<v Speaker 1>one to two. McLevin. You want to jump in and

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<v Speaker 1>try to find the other one. Well, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thought Ohio State and Michigan duspeases of the rivalry. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Ohio State and Michigan State, Nope. Seaton o'counter Iowa.

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa is the other one. Nebraska and Iowa were the

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<v Speaker 1>two that I'm told their presidents were pushing to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, this can all change. I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that I put that out there. It can all change,

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<v Speaker 1>because it has all changed here in the last five

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<v Speaker 1>to seven days. Here. Let's bring in Pat forty Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Illustrated senior writer. Here. You're usually the one the bearer

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<v Speaker 1>of bad news, but I beat you to the punch

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<v Speaker 1>here fifteen minutes ago. Here, Pat, So just a recap.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the Big ten and Pac twelve. They are

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled to cancel Fall sports coming up tomorrow. You have

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve, and you have the ACC on the fence,

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<v Speaker 1>and the SEC is looking at TV contracts see if

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<v Speaker 1>they can maybe bring in some schools. So what has happened?

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<v Speaker 1>What has changed since last week here? Well, a few

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<v Speaker 1>things has changed I mean only in college sports, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>is it possible that you're releasing schedules all last week

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<v Speaker 1>getting people excited, and then on Saturday morning, basically Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois goes into a meeting in the Mid American Conference

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<v Speaker 1>says we're not playing, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not going to play, maybe we shouldn't play.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Mid American Conference, the number nine or

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<v Speaker 1>ten conference in the nation, says we're not going to play,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody else is like, Oh, I guess we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to play either. It's I mean, it's unbelievable that

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<v Speaker 1>this could happen in the space of a weekend. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Big Ten was tracking that way all along,

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<v Speaker 1>or certainly for the last week. Even before that. Kevin Warren,

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner, has been the most cautious and guarded of

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<v Speaker 1>all the Power five commissioners talking about the season. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the wins were blowing that way strongly during the week.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mid American Conference probably stuck a finger in the

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<v Speaker 1>air and said, if the Big ten's going, we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to go first. Yeah, it felt like that you

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<v Speaker 1>got the commissioners together that they wanted to be all

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<v Speaker 1>in on this and not have, you know, an outlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and the SEC may be that outlier, but we thought

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<v Speaker 1>that that was a possibility anyway the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months here, I know that the PAC twelve didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the first to announce this. Then I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Big ten was maybe going to take that preemptive

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<v Speaker 1>strike and sorry will be the ones to announce it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the PAC twelve. I don't know what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with the ACC in the Big twelve, but could you

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<v Speaker 1>see where the SEC goes alone and says we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to play X number of games here and have a

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<v Speaker 1>conference champion and we'll have a mythical national champion. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'd be highly improbable. We reported last night and

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<v Speaker 1>really over the weekend that by the end of this

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<v Speaker 1>week everybody will be out. There will be no fall football,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think that I think the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 1>is closer to going the way of the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>and PAC twelve than most people think. The ACC is

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<v Speaker 1>more closely in line with where the SEC is, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately they all realize we're not going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>There may still be some people pushing for it in

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC. But here's why you can't really be the

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 1>outlier and go it alone. First of all, if all

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the other conferences, with all of their medical experts and

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>all their presidents say we don't think it is safe

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>for the players, is the SEC supill say we really

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>don't care. Well, let's stay for the players. If we're

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>going because we like football, I don't think that's going

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to happen. And the other thing is a lot of

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the state schools in that league have pushed really hard

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>at the presidential level to enhance the academic profiles of

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>their schools, specifically Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>They want out of state tuition dollars by making the

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>school a better place. If you say we're a football

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>power and we want to play football, we don't care

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 1>about the pandemic, that's not going to help you at

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>admissions time. How does this affect these players who would

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>be eligible for the NFL Draft If you think about it,

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>these one year wonders that we've had recently, you know,

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Haskins, where would Joe Burrow be, Kyler Murray, these

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>guys who you know I'm talking about in just quarterbacks.

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>But there are a lot of positions here. There are

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of players who came out of nowhere. Joe

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Burrow was a fifth round draft pick and then he

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>had the magical season and is the number one pick overall.

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Haskins comes out of nowhere, Kyler Murray out of baseball.

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>What do they do? I don't know. I mean, that's

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>it's tough for those guys. You feel bad. Look, I

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>feel bad for all the players. And it's been amazing

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>to watch, you know, Tyler or Trevor Lawrence basically Union

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>heist college football at midnight last night. You know, these

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>guys they want to play, A lot of them do.

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, for the for the established stars who aren't

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>going to play because they're not there's no way they're

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>playing in the spring, to the up and coming guys,

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to the hidden gems that you were talking about, this

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>takes away a big opportunity for them. And yeah, you

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>can try to play in the spring, sure, and some

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>guys would be happy to play and try to help

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>improve their stock then, but this is I mean, it

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>puts a major crimping in the entire trickle down of

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>football from the NFL through college to high school recruiting.

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Everything is on hold and up in the air. What

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>do you think happens today? You know, I don't know

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>whether if you know, if the Big Ten will wait

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>until tomorrow on this there's a scheduled meeting for PAC

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve presidents tomorrow, or if something happens today, you know,

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I would expect as you as you

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>obviously said, those two are going to be probably first.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I do think the Big Ten was trying to get

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody on the same page since everybody was mad at

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten in July for preempting everyone on the schedule.

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>They were all supposed to be on the same page then.

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think the other conferences too are going to

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>be right there behind them as far as the group

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of five leagues you know, today, here's what I think today.

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>The players will continue to make a social media push

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 1>to try to make their voices heard to say, hey,

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>let's reconsider and good for them, but it's not going

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to be enough. Yeah. I was told liability, that was

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the key word, that liability with these universities. And if

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>something happens and you know what it would cost them,

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, the risk and the reward the risk isn't

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>worth the reward. But can you make a case, though,

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>pent that at these Power five conferences, who do have

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the money to test, and you know, unlike the Mid

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>American Conference, that they are safer on campus, then maybe

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>they would be if they were at home and you know, socializing. Sure. Well,

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean here's the thing. I mean, the players shouldn't

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>will probably stand on campus. I mean, unless these campuses

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 1>are going to close down to students, most of them

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>aren't having students on campus. Not all of them, but

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>most of them. So you know, I don't anticipate the

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State team and the Michigan team going home per se.

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they will stay there unless they want to

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>opt out and work out for the draft. So you know,

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll stay there and you'll still be in

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a situation where you're probably getting routine testing and you're

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>working out there, and they're trying to make things as

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>safe as possible. I think another big factor Dan is

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>worry about heart conditions. There's been a few players here

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and there who have said, hey, my heart is not right.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>There have been doctors who have said they've gotten that

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>some players who have had in large heartsmile carditis, and

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>that really got the attention to the presidents. My colleague

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Ross Dellinger did a good story on that, just that

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you start talking to presidents about unknown law term heart

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>damage and to your point of liability, do you want

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to be on the hook if you've got five players

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>with heart damage? Yeah, you bring that up. And I

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>was told that they're seeing players if they may be asymptomatic,

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>but a couple of weeks after the fact, they're starting

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to see some issues with their hearts with some of

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>these players. Granted it might be a small sample here,

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>but these are things that you know, a university is liable,

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and they realize this that just you know, what would

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>happen with lawsuits here if something happened. So I think

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that's why they're you know, I think they were in

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>denial for a long time, and I just think that

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>now as we get closer to classes starting and kids

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>coming on campus, the reality hit home. Yeah, now that

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>they pushed the decision so far down the road as

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>far as they could, and we're in denial, like, hey,

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>we can pull this off, can't we Sure we can.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's put on a show, and you know, the closer

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you get to it, the more there's just too many

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.959
<v Speaker 1>problems facing it. And now you know, we'll see if

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>they can get together and come up with a plan

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>for the spring. There's no good spring options. But is

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>there in a spring option that's close enough too good

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that you can do or have they just been sitting

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>there with wishful thinking about the fallow and not even

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>thought about the spring yet. Yeah? If you could interview

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>one person on the record involved in all of this,

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>who would you want to interview? Coach player? I think

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I would interview probably Jane Smith at Ohio State, the

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>athletic director there, because you know, they're the flagship program

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>of that conference, and I think he's a smart man

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and they've got a great season ahead. But they're putting

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>on the brakes on this, and I want to know

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>what exactly are the concerns from a health standpoint that

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>have made you want to stop an incredibly good season

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>at a place that cares incredibly much about college football. Yeah,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the surprising element here. When I told you that

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>there were two schools in the Big Ten that were

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>pushing to play, you probably would have thought Ohio State

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>for sure. And now I find out that it's Nebraska

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's Iowa. Does that surprise you at all? Nebraska

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't surprise me at all. The second one from England's

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I had gotten it wasn't going to be Ohio state.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe Perdue because Mitch Daniels, the president they're

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>former governor of Indiana, has been pretty bullish on trying

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to let's reopen, let's normalize. So I wouldn't have guessed Iowa,

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>but Nebraska. Yeah, good to talk to you again, Pat,

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us. It is always great. Great work

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. Thank you Optimism twenty twenty one. Pat forty,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Sports Illustrated Senior writer. Yeah. Sports Illustrated did a great

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>job over the weekend with some of their information as well.

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Following them, we got to pull question McLevin. I'm gonna

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>put up if you're okay with it. Do you think

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>they should have a season? I know everyone wants one.

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like we're not going to have one, But

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>do you think that they should? Is everyone gonna just

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>say yes because it's wishful thinking? Probably? So? I mean,

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I would hope they had a football season. I was

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I was stuck in reality here where

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I just said, I just don't see it's happening. And

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, so Pat was backing up what I said.

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Northern Illinois said to everybody else in the Mid American Conference,

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the other presidents, hey, we're not playing, and that's when

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the Mid American Conference goes. Then we're not playing as

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a conference. It would have looked really bad if Northern

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Illinois and maybe Northern Illinois started the avalanche here because

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>then it's the Mid American Conference. Now. Granted I was

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>told they don't have the money. It's not a revenue

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>producing you know, sport the way it is in the

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Power five conferences. But it's still a very respectable conference.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>And when they decided that they weren't going to do this,

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>then you start to look around and these commissioners and

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>these presidents, the athletic directors. Then you have to you

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>have to you know what the optics are going to be.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, they care about their students and student athletes,

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>but you don't, because that's the way it's going to

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>be portrayed. That'll be the spin on this. All right,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>let me take a break. We got a lot of

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.200
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<v Speaker 1>what you didn't like, your chance to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the program. We'll take a break here back after this

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks keepka. Our boy got roughed up yesterday. He was

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>talking a good game on Saturday. He got humbled yesterday

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>because he was saying, I'm basically the guy to beat

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>here and he beat himself. Still love, I think Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>is great for the game. I love that there's a

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit of friction there. He's not afraid to push

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a button or two. But he got humbled, and golf

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>will humble you in an instant. All right, let's take

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>a break. I don't know. How about we take a

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>break from that to then go to phone calls is

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>what I meant. I'm ready to go to commercial break here. No.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I looked at the time and I'm like, oh, I know,

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm a little fired up today, probably because

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of all this bad news breaking news with college football

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>here Mark and Florida leads this off. Hi, Mark, what

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>do you have for me today? And five ten, one fifty, um, So,

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.479
<v Speaker 1>best of the weekend is the Oakland A's and Sheath

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and asshows fight. And worst of the weekend is my

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Pelicans getting eliminated from the playoff contention. Yeah. I was

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>disappointed in Lonzo Ball. He was he was really subpar

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>in the bubble. And you know, Zion's got something to

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>work on here. They do have a nucleus there, but

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Lonzo Ball has got to be a whole lot better.

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And I really thought that we were starting to see

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the true promise of Lonzo Ball. I know it's a

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>small sample size, but ma'am, is he disappointing in the

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>bubble and now it looks like you're gonna have your

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>your play in game. I don't know who's gonna make it.

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Is Memphis gonna hold on and maybe be part of

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the play in game. I saw where the Clippers want

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers to face the Blazers. I don't know are

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 1>they manipulating the schedule here of who plays and who

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't play here? But I know that they want the

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Blazers to face the Lakers because the Clippers reportedly think

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the Blazers can beat the Lakers here. Yes, MC lovin

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of overreactions to the eight game Bubble regular

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>season out there, That's all I'm saying, What do you mean?

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying people are reading a lot into these stat

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>lines as if the Lakers and Clippers are trying. Lakers

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 1>are two and for it. Everyone's like, oh, sky is falling,

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>and the Luca scores fifty points a game, and everyone's like, oh,

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>look at him dominating. I'm just saying that the good

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>teams are resting their players. I think that's an underrated

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>aspect of this. So wait a minute, is this a

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>knock on my boy Luca or on other guys who

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>are putting up big numbers in the bubble. Well, I'm

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>just saying the Bucks played the MAVs, and the MAVs won,

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and Luca all of a sudden became one of the

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>top ten players of all time. Did the great freak

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>playing again? He did, but he played twelve less minutes

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>in Luca because and also everyone's saying like, oh, Lebron

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is not trying. Wait till Lebron turns it on in

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a week. They don't. Doesn't mean anything. When the Clippers struggle,

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not headline worthy. When the Lakers struggle, it, Oh

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, that you know that this is the end

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of the world for the Lakers. Clippers lost the Nets

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>last Oh I know, nobody cares. I know. But if

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers had lost to the Nets, oh my god.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>According to Joe Varden of the Athletic Clippers, players actively

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>want the Lakers to have to face Portland in the

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 1>first round. They believe the Blazers could actually beat the Lakers.

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>The Clippers could have helped increase the likelihood of such

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a scenario Saturday had they lost to Portland, but they

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>ultimately won a game that led to some serious bad blood. Yeah,

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Dame Lillard, who had an unbelievable game yesterday, but he

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>put up fifty one McLevin oh on a six or

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>team without Simmons, without him beat it was he was

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>beating up like G League players and they still almost lost.

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>You didn't learn your lesson when I said stay away

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>from Luca. You're not gonna win that argum minute. You know,

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I gave up on the Luke argument this weekend, but

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm back in. It's all big fake numbers. Who he

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was like thirty seven, nineteen and fifteen the other day?

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that that can't be realistic? Nobody's well he had

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty something in twenty rebounds and twelve assists. Who It's

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>not like it's a one off here. I know it's

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's unbelievable. You've got to stop. Just free your mind.

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>The rest will follow mclovin. But I do have a

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>great poll question for you later on Luca. Okay, let

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>me get a couple more phone calls in here. I

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>would have thought after had he had back to back, Man,

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna fight you

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>on it. I'm not gonna fight you on it. You'd

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>actually take Zion over Luca. I'm off that bad biged

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Zion is gonna Zion's biggest competition is going to be

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:57.919
<v Speaker 1>his body. That's going to be his biggest competition. Can

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>he stay out in front of it? Can he be

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>healthy enough? Can he be explosive? I watched highlights of

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>him at Duke and just on offense because he doesn't

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>play any defense. He doesn't like he just sort of

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>floats out there. He doesn't play any defense whatsoever. But

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>when he runs the break, then you like, I just

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see what he looked like at Duke, and

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>there is a big difference, no pun intended, there's a

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>big difference in how he is right now with the

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Pelicans and how he was at Duke Camil. Occasionally he'll

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>block a shot into like the eighth row. It's high.

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, yeah, in college he was doing that. Oh,

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>there's no defense, right, But does Luca play defense? He might?

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. Wait, I'm just saying that he

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't play any defense. So it's not like he's expending

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 1>any energy on the defensive end, and it doesn't look

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>like he has that much offen, you know, energy on

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the offense. They still scoring at a crazy clip per minute, Zion.

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how, but Lucas putting up ainteen assists,

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the Greek Freak had one. It's getting harder and harder

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to be on that. And I know that people get

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>sensitive with the Larry Bird comparison, but if you he's

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>better than Larry Bird right now, but he's only twenty one.

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Burne didn't get into the league too, he's twenty three.

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Larry's like sixty right now. That's not fair. Oh,

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I see what you did, McLevin. Yeah, although Larry's probably

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>still a better shooter than Luca right now, and I

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>will give you that, but Luca is doing things that

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Larry never did. Now, that doesn't mean, you know, is

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Luca going to be like when Larry was thirty, Larry

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 1>was better than Lebron James at thirty, Larry just wash

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and then Lebron didn't start elevating past Larry Bird until

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 1>what three years ago, maybe on people's all time list. Yeah,

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>point at the age Luca is now, Larry was a

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>junior at Indiana State with one more year to go,

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>averaging thirty twelve and four. Yeah, thirty twelve and four.

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Luca's doing twenty nine, eleven and nine now in the NBA.

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>At twenty one. I know it's blasphemous to say it,

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and I know it's you know, it's generational. It's the

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>game is different now. But Luca is a better basketball

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>offensive basketball player than Bird. Right now he is. I

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what he's gonna be like in four years,

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>five years, You're going to be even better than what

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>we see, which would be scary and Bird. I love.

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Bird was fabulous, But Luca's putting up incredible assist totals.

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's different. Larry was a point forward, you know,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Luca is he's a point guard. Yeah, mcclevin. The game

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 1>is spaced differently now. Though Bird might might thrive a

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>little more in this a wide open game. Oh, he'd

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>be taken, you know, eight to ten threes a game,

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>even more than that. At least, I'd want him to

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>still want the ball in his hands. Game on the line. Absolutely,

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll go inside the bubble. Chris Haynes will join us.

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I always love talking to Chris. Find out is the

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>sky falling with the Lakers here and the bad blood

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>between the Blazers and Clippers. I love it.