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Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You

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Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm

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Speaker 1: playing along with the War Entreaty.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long we.

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Speaker 1: Am just playing in lone wee. Hey, I'm Nora and

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Speaker 1: with me is always at Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to our show. Yes, our guests today are

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Speaker 3: Grammy nominated singer songwriters Michael and Tanya.

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Speaker 1: Trotter of the War Entreaty. They are a husband and

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Speaker 1: wife duo.

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Speaker 3: They're blending soul, gospel country music with their incredible voices.

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Speaker 1: This was such a fun episode. I've known them through

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Speaker 1: different shows over the years, and I didn't really know

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Speaker 1: their story it is. It's fascinating, very fascinating. They have

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Speaker 1: an incredible story. Yeah, it was really beautiful. You're gonna hear.

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Speaker 3: About how they got their start, how they started making

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Speaker 3: music together, some like very inspiring stories along the way,

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Speaker 3: and as always really powerful music, especially with the three

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Speaker 3: of you.

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Speaker 1: It was really fine. Yeah, they're good people.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy Yeah, these looks, long.

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Speaker 5: Ells, tears well dry. You know you want what you give.

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Speaker 5: We're not selling proud of you came gray. So when

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Speaker 5: the howes at the moon and the cock crows at

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Speaker 5: the side, bloomy Hutchland, the name comes.

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Speaker 6: Keebuck and Bernie, right.

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Speaker 5: Star, Rolly, sad Lady shine. You know, fat things to

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Speaker 5: way like night turns to day. So when the wok

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Speaker 5: blows at the moon and the cocks set the sign

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Speaker 5: Scooby hustand.

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Speaker 6: Name come s uh, when some against cold and when

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Speaker 7: Sol you know, the fat fatally.

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Speaker 8: Turns to day.

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Speaker 6: The windows and the cock crows the sun. Booby hustle today.

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Speaker 7: Come, I went with you?

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Speaker 9: So you did, Yeah, you did this.

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Speaker 10: We go together, Yeah, phone down together. It's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: That's something that is so nice about singing with someone

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Speaker 1: go wherever each other goes.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it's like every night we're gonna do the

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Speaker 11: same set list. Yeah, so Michael just pulls.

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Speaker 1: Out, did you write a set list?

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Speaker 11: He does, But we've been doing the same energy is

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Speaker 11: the same set list.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this it's been we've been together now.

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Speaker 12: We just haven't been doing eight years the entire set list. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: because we get caught up. So we have this one

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Speaker 12: song called love like Whiskey, and at the end it

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Speaker 13: It's like real churches, and it's like fuck through the

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Speaker 7: Then crowd of singing, and we go out to the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 7: And it takes a while to get back, kills a

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Speaker 1: Oh, it just takes a long time and out.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I love it because it's like by the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's great connection to Yeah, that energy is

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Speaker 7: We're teachings. I'm like, so this is part I have

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Speaker 7: all guys go through the fuck yeah, and then you

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 12: It was insane last night in New York, like everybody,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it really is, because it's it's that one moment

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Speaker 7: It, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's always better when that happens. Yeah, even

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So here's another cool night for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask any questions.

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Speaker 7: I've been waiting for this moment. So you know who

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Speaker 1: Was really Oh, that's so special. How did that come about?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 11: I actually okay, So Michael, of course he served. He

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Speaker 11: So we went all the different places trying to record,

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Speaker 10: I know he doesn't want this music to come out,

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Speaker 1: You wanted to do it, but you didn't really want

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Speaker 11: Didn't want to release it into the world. He was like,

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Speaker 10: Heck you don't it.

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Speaker 11: And so I sent it to and AlSi, who's a

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Speaker 10: Tweeted it to her and I was like, oh public, yeah,

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Speaker 10: So I sent it to her.

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Speaker 11: I was like, please take a listen to the woman

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Speaker 11: Yeah, she ended up playing it on the radio, and

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Speaker 11: Dona was just happened to be her friend and that's

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Speaker 10: The music and she showed it to him.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 7: It was like, I want them for my concert of colors. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: find them now.

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Speaker 1: He brought you into a show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, and he was going to.

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Speaker 12: Produce our first album. He literally, I mean like, this

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Speaker 2: Was a dinner. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 7: It was crazy because he was.

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Speaker 12: Like after where we want to go into the radio station.

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Speaker 12: He's like, everybody's gone, he said, and we're going to

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Speaker 7: It's about like fifty songs. Fifty yeah, And he listened

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Speaker 7: to every single song with notes. He was right. He

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Speaker 7: was already playing next year.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like don Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It was so I mean, like it was so.

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Speaker 12: Cool, but he got super busy, so he passed us

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Speaker 12: off to this his buddy in Nashal called Buddy Miller.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know of him. Yeah, he's amazing.

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Speaker 12: His spirit is I know, Buddy, Buddy's beautiful, and Buddy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so great. He's such a special human. Oh yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's done so much. Yeah, but like just he'll

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Speaker 1: It's he He's that's really special. I didn't know that

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Speaker 1: it's one of the last of his kind. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: so incredible. Yeah, it's incredible.

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Speaker 7: Well I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 12: I've been singing all my life. I come from a

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Speaker 12: So, but then I made some mistakes and I needed

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Speaker 12: Like the helicopter is how really got That's just you're

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Speaker 7: The army's weird.

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Speaker 12: you know. But I'm sitting in Kuwait and the first

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Speaker 12: And then you hear siren and I'm like, what.

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Speaker 7: Like that's the Iraq Iraqies they're firing. Oh my god,

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Speaker 7: it's trying to get close. I'm like, they're firing.

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Speaker 12: I'm like I can hear it internally first, that's how

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Speaker 12: could see how beautiful he once was, the architecture, I mean,

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Speaker 12: definitely at war, and you start seeing guys drop one

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 12: This captain recognized my fear and was like, yeah, he's

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Speaker 12: And in my file, my profile says I love music.

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Speaker 12: And in the palace we took over in Baghdad, Saddam

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Speaker 7: Tried, I know you can sing and play back that.

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Speaker 7: I went from being an infantry kid.

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Speaker 12: Providing supplies on the supply route, garden and protecting, fighting

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Speaker 12: That's what he kept saying, is like, it's boosting the morale.

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Speaker 7: And then one day we learned we.

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Speaker 12: But the reason I didn't want to get into the

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Speaker 12: Perez was one of my boys. We write songs together,

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Speaker 7: I was like, it was his thing.

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Speaker 12: And so that's when when Tyme met me, I just

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Speaker 1: You know, that's not why you were doing it. So

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I had a lot of trouble with that.

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Speaker 1: Well I understand why, now that is that is quite

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Speaker 7: Yep, that's that's that's what happened to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for your service and also I'm sorry for

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but some good things come out.

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Speaker 12: Like that's where hate pretty moon comes from, you know,

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Speaker 7: It's always huge and beautiful. And so that's how we wrote, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Did you write it there?

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Speaker 7: I started there started Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I just was like, hate pretty moon talking to the moon.

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Speaker 12: You know, I just thought the moon was very I mean,

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Speaker 6: The moon spotlight.

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Speaker 1: Well what a gift?

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Speaker 10: Music is, right, it's the ultimate gift.

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Speaker 1: It really is. Another example of it, very shining one.

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Speaker 1: Well it's beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, hey pretty much do it? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: We won't be able to sing and start crying.

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Speaker 9: Mh hey, pretty moon. So Brian face, how do you haye.

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Speaker 6: In the air of the liame free.

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Speaker 9: Right mong.

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Speaker 8: Mm hmmm, silver circle, gony rod.

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Speaker 6: In the dog look at it be you. It's like

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Speaker 6: you hay.

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Speaker 5: Me free.

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Speaker 8: From my cats.

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Speaker 6: Sour, Yeah, I do you share while the dog shower

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Speaker 8: Chanch me.

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Speaker 6: To share the way anyway.

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Speaker 15: You do.

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Speaker 6: Know about the great Scott.

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Speaker 8: Hey, pretty moose.

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Speaker 6: My face.

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Speaker 2: How do you do in the end longing your hay.

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Speaker 6: Fee?

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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, you find a way stay, find a way

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Speaker 17: to stay all stand?

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, no, the stars s far boy your side

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Speaker 6: even shun some name for the show.

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Speaker 8: You keep your clothes.

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Speaker 6: Hey, pretty much?

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Speaker 18: Fried fet.

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Speaker 6: Found love like free from my Oh yeah, look like

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Speaker 6: You have to go with it somewhere.

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Speaker 2: It's so pretty you don't need me.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's fun to play with you that d indeed.

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Speaker 7: Because we do it so different, but we do. Yeah

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Speaker 7: you sound?

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks?

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Speaker 6: What do you guys play live?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a keyboard live?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah the Yamaha montage.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah. Do you change the sounds or you

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Speaker 12: I still pire because I have another guy. He's who's

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 12: Name is Slim, He's pretty Terrence Homes Okay, Slim and

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Speaker 7: Funanya together you know and thing.

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Speaker 10: But he's amazing. A great bunch of guys.

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Speaker 1: How big is the band?

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Speaker 7: It varies, like you know, we have.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge it's a huge band.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a lot of people.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but we travel with now we're traveling with five

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Speaker 10: Just just relax.

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Speaker 1: You guys have such an interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 11: I mean every show it's crazy, Like every award show.

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Speaker 11: You just don't understand the hysteria that goes on backstage.

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Speaker 11: It's it does something for me to see everybody else

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Speaker 1: Screened?

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Speaker 10: The curtains about to open.

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Speaker 11: Now you're forgetting lyrics since I've been practicing for weeks.

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Speaker 10: And Mike was like, please, you're giving me anxiety.

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Speaker 1: So you give him the anxiety.

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Speaker 12: It's like yeah, and she's strong, like my hands have

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Speaker 10: I was like it was so bad. My hands was

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Speaker 7: ACMs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many.

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Speaker 7: It was that one and we were standing and I

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Speaker 19: She was like.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and then if you watch us, like on one

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Speaker 11: I would take you would take the high note, right,

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Speaker 12: Were standing when you held my hand and I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're the one who wanted to get in

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Speaker 10: I always have had anxiety, really, so I think a

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Speaker 11: When I was younger, it would like choke me where

452
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 11: I couldn't sing while I was like, it's not your horse,

453
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 11: it's all psychological, you know, So I had to work. Yeah,

454
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 11: Like you literally can psychologically put yourself and you can

455
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 11: into a point where you know you can hit these notes,

456
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 11: but you're so psychologically like, you know, restrained, that you

457
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 11: can't do it.

458
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: This is interesting because I think of you guys as

459
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: just being out there all the time. You're on the

460
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: road all the time. I see you everywhere and oh yeah, everything.

461
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 10: Isn't that every perform it's an anxiety thing.

462
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: Wow. So where did you grow up in Washington, DC?

463
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: And did you grow up singing?

464
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 7: Yeah?

465
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 10: I grew up. I was very shy though you know,

466
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 10: my music teacher say that I I wanted.

467
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 11: I started singing when I saw my brother like really

468
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 11: tear up a Baptist church one Sunday morning.

469
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 10: I was like, I can see doing this.

470
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm like I could do that.

471
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 7: I was like, not realizing that I couldn't.

472
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 11: I'm like, whatever he's doing to make these people feel

473
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 11: like that, I want to do it because I was

474
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 11: more so like a feeler when I was little, so

475
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 11: I would see people sad and want to, you know,

476
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 11: make them happy, or animals and bring them home all

477
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 11: the time.

478
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 6: I was that kid.

479
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 11: And so I saw him one Sunday morning just like

480
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 11: rip up a church and I went home and I

481
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 11: was like, mom, this is what I want.

482
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 10: To do for the rest of my life.

483
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: That's amazing how it was a lot.

484
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 11: I was like seven and a half eight years old,

485
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 11: and my brother was like, that's not what you want

486
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 11: to do for the rest of your life. He was like,

487
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 11: if you want to do this for the rest of

488
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 11: your life, then you're going to have to learn how

489
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 11: to sing like this. So he bought me a Houston

490
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 11: record and learn how to sing like this, and it

491
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 11: was dream Girls with General Jennifer Holiday and so those

492
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 11: were the voices that he was like, if you can

493
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 11: halfway get there, then maybe.

494
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 10: You can do this in a career.

495
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 11: I'm like, this is like a lot a lot. So

496
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 11: I started like, you know, we had the little vinyl,

497
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 11: the big vinyl you call stereos back in the day,

498
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 11: old vintage ones. And I'll put the records on vinyl

499
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 11: and go downstairs and yell at the top of my lungs.

500
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 10: And then my mom was like, that's not singing. He

501
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 10: was a classical singer.

502
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Well really, okay, so that's a whole other thing.

503
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 11: That's a whole And I went and ended up going

504
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 11: to high going to college on a classical music.

505
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Scholar singing opera. Wow. No, I want to hear it.

506
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Wow. So that's where the power also must

507
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: come from.

508
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, and then Michael taught me how to growl and

509
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 11: do all the stuff that the teachers say damage you.

510
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that they would not be Oh no, they were.

511
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 10: They I couldn't send gospel music for like a year

512
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 10: when I went to school. They were like your fo

513
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 10: all cards.

514
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it so crazy? Did you grow up

515
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: in the church singing? Yeah?

516
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 9: Church?

517
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 10: And then I went on to do R and B music,

518
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 10: and then I you know, stopped doing music for a while.

519
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: You did after the Holy Reef meeting in the that

520
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: record released a record nineteen ninety four.

521
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I did sister right too before they.

522
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: Ye, So I wanted to ask him about that. How

523
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: were you in that?

524
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 11: I was I just turned seventeen and you were into acting?

525
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 11: Not really, No, I kind of fell into it. I

526
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 11: didn't realize that I was one of those kids. You know,

527
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 11: I was an actor at home because I was very shy.

528
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 11: So I would take my mother's gowns and where I'm

529
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 11: in the school and get sent home school.

530
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 10: You know, I was that kid, but I was still shy.

531
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 11: This was like my little world where I hid and

532
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 11: no one else. I didn't want anybody else to be

533
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 11: a part of it. So they had this audition for

534
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 11: this movie and it wasn't called I don't know what

535
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 11: it was called at the time. They were going to

536
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 11: call it something else. And I came to New York

537
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 11: and auditioned and ended up slipping up, ending up in

538
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 11: the top three. It No, it's called something else, really, Yeah,

539
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 11: And they didn't even write me in. It wasn't like

540
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 11: Lauryn Hill's part. Wasn't Laura Hill's part.

541
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 10: The part that I was in. We ended up.

542
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 11: Writing that as I got the part at Goldberg's house,

543
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 11: So none of it was planned.

544
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 10: You know, this was all like I'm slipping into this,

545
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 10: so it was great.

546
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 11: You know, that's so cool, And that's how I kind

547
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 11: of got into acting, and you know, liked it, but

548
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 11: didn't so much because it takes a little.

549
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 10: Bit longer than it's hard music. You know, your own

550
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 10: sets not as months.

551
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: You can't be as creative, yeah, spontaneously, it's not as

552
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: satisfying in the moment.

553
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 11: Exactly, and so that's not something I pursued long term.

554
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 11: And then so I completely kind of just walked away

555
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 11: from it. Wow, because again I was doing R and B,

556
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 11: and then I had done gospel in my church.

557
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 10: But I just knew I wanted to.

558
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 11: Do other stuff because I was I went to school

559
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 11: for classical music, but at that time, there was no like,

560
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 11: there was no genre for what I wanted to do.

561
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 10: Now we have what we call Americana.

562
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: He felt.

563
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 11: Very early on because I loved all kinds of music.

564
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 11: My mom was from Panama, so I was growing up

565
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 11: listening to Calypso music in the house and marenguey and

566
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 11: dancing and you know, doing all that kind of stuff jazz.

567
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 11: So I'm like, why is everything so separate? I want

568
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 11: to be able to listen to somebody that does all

569
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 11: this at the same time. And so I stopped for

570
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 11: a long time after I released that record, and years

571
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 11: later I met Michael What did you do?

572
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: And you stop?

573
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 11: I was a worship leader, I did worship music, I

574
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 11: wrote books, I did, you know, a lot of community

575
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 11: service kind of stuff, stage plays, behind the scenes kind

576
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 11: of stuff.

577
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 10: So I was doing more writing. Oh yeah, but you know,

578
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 10: that was an introvert part of me.

579
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 11: And I learned through that time that a lot of

580
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 11: me is an introvert in a mom and mom you know,

581
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 11: all those things, and that normalized for me, you know,

582
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 11: not realizing that. I don't think I had the role

583
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 11: models to show me how you can kind of balance

584
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 11: it both.

585
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's impossible, yeah, but mostly.

586
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 10: And that's what I had to learn. You know, it's like,

587
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 10: you can't balance this, well.

588
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: No, you can balance it all. It's just something will

589
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: always suffer, and it's usually you.

590
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 7: Yes, that is exactly. That's a great way.

591
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 10: That is so true.

592
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 11: And something will something will suffer, you know, And so

593
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 11: you know, a lot did and a lot of my

594
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 11: mental health suffer. So I took that time off to

595
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 11: kind of just fix the cracks within myself, and when

596
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 11: I met Michael, it was the cracks were not all fixed.

597
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 10: I'm still wacky sometimes, but you know, but.

598
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 12: I'm a perfect wife.

599
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 7: Thank you, buddy.

600
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, well, it sure seems like you guys

601
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: have this great partnership that it has become so special.

602
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: And you know, when did you? How did how did

603
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: you meet?

604
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 10: And I love fest.

605
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 7: So weird?

606
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

607
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 11: I was the communities and so this was a community

608
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 11: event where we were giving backpacks and stuff out and

609
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 11: Michael was on the gospel kind of Christian hip hop

610
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 11: scene and Maryland and he was it was he was,

611
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 11: I mean amazing.

612
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 10: So he came and performed.

613
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 11: The lady I was working with had him as one

614
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 11: of the artists and I didn't know at this time

615
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 11: that he was.

616
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 10: Going to be there performing. And he got on that

617
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 10: stage and I was like, who is this guy?

618
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 11: Like everything that I loved about music, you know that

619
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 11: thing you have to have to like want to go

620
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 11: in the studio and do music again, he had that thing.

621
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 11: And I was like a little spark, Yeah it did.

622
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 11: And I was like, this is the feeling I had

623
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 11: when I was eight years old. So my brother like

624
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 11: on stage performing. I'm like this guy he has it.

625
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 11: And so I darted across the field to meet him.

626
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 11: And I wasn't shot. I'm shot in some areas.

627
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: In the area. This story.

628
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, So we met and he was he was with

629
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 11: a friend, and we exchanged I mean, see's his girlfriend.

630
00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 10: But anyway, we exchanged number.

631
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 7: She was not my girlfriend. Yesterday you said she was.

632
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 7: I didn't.

633
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 10: I never said in an interview SAIDs us girl.

634
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: No, my girl a friend girl. He just said girl

635
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: who was a friend. Yeah, and.

636
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 10: Leave it alone. But anyway, we exchanged phone numbers Michael,

637
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 10: and I.

638
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 11: Was like, you you wrote all these songs and he's

639
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 11: like yeah, like my brother and I are working on

640
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 11: the project cause my brother is a singer too, and

641
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 11: I was just doing music for him and Michael start

642
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 11: writing songs like in three days, he wrote like twelve

643
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 11: songs for this project.

644
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 9: Oh wow.

645
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 11: And I was like, this is weird because not just songs.

646
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 11: They were like you know, you write songs, you come

647
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 11: back to him. They were like complete compositions, you know.

648
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 11: And I'm like, I just gave this guy twenty four hours.

649
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 10: How do he do that? I don't have help.

650
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: He's inspired by you. Yes, wait had you heard her

651
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: sing yet?

652
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: Oh?

653
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: No, listen because did you sing at the thing?

654
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 12: I was a fan from Sister too, So okay, I

655
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 12: was nine when that movie came out, Gotcha, and I

656
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 12: told when she came on the screen, I told my parents.

657
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 7: I said, oh, that's my wife and my mam and

658
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 7: dad laughed and they looked at me and I wasn't laughing.

659
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you just felt a connection.

660
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 7: She was so beautiful to me. I was like whoa

661
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 7: at nine.

662
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 12: So when we finally met, I woke my parents up

663
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 12: like at like three am.

664
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 7: And my dad was like, what do you want. I

665
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 7: was like, let me in the house and I tell

666
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 7: you something. He's like, boy, it's three am. My mother's

667
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 7: in the backroom. Who is it?

668
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 18: Is it?

669
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 6: Mikey?

670
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 12: Let him in, mama, boy? And so I'm like, dad, Ma,

671
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 12: guess what? And my Dad's like, boy, this better be good.

672
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 12: I gotta go to work in the morning.

673
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 7: I was like, I found her. I found that.

674
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy and my mother.

675
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 7: I mean, neither one of them believed.

676
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: They did it, but they remembered that moment.

677
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, like they just didn't.

678
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 12: It's still a pinch me moment for a lot of

679
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 12: my family members, like you know, and Tanya is just

680
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 12: the She's really an angel, honestly, Like I mean, like

681
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 12: I don't good guys, good husbands say that about their wives.

682
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 7: Just to get a point. But I really do believe.

683
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 12: You know, she got some weird spiritual stuff going on too,

684
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 12: like she's she's deep.

685
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 7: But I just believe that Tanya is just an angel.

686
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 7: I do believe it.

687
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 10: That's so sweet.

688
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 7: She's a healer.

689
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 12: She's truly a healer, like her presence, her energy, her touch.

690
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 12: I mean, like I I didn't know what I needed

691
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 12: at the time in twenty ten, but once I met her,

692
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 12: I definitely sure as hell knew from that point on

693
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 12: what I was gonna want forever and need forever.

694
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 7: And that was it.

695
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, we found each other at a great at perfect time,

696
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 11: the right time. Yeah, you had stuff to do before then,

697
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 11: oh yeah, like we had to know that, you know.

698
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 11: And then you know, yeah we had a son, and

699
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 11: I had an older son, but I couldn't have kids,

700
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 11: like fourteen years after my oldest doctors like you can't

701
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 11: have kids, And I met him and boom, you wanted

702
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 11: to and well my body was like yes, you're doing this.

703
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 10: You couldn't do it before him.

704
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 12: And I wasn't going to argue. Yeah yeah, And I

705
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 12: have two daughters from my previous.

706
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so how many kids total?

707
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: For wow?

708
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 7: My two my two baby girls. I mean they're not girls.

709
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 10: He wants them to be.

710
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 7: They always will be my baby girls. I mean, my

711
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 7: my baby daughter. Who's here. She's walking around her little

712
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 7: boyfriend right now.

713
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: Driving me nuts like you there, Yeah, okay, and.

714
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 7: He works for us.

715
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: Okay.

716
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 12: It was weird because he's like our sound engineer. That's

717
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 12: so great and I really love him, but I hate

718
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 12: his goods too.

719
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how cool he is, it's still your

720
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: baby girl.

721
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 11: I have to hold his hand every time he's yeah, touching,

722
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 11: I'm like, she's an adult.

723
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 7: He's like bye, Mike. I'm like, oh bye boy.

724
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 10: They were they were sleeping and before we got here,

725
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 10: it was sleeping on the couch. We were, you know,

726
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 10: at at another event. And they're just sleeping away. It's

727
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 10: so cute. And he looks over. He says, it's time

728
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 10: for them to get up and go to the other room.

729
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm sleep here room.

730
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 7: While you're waking them up.

731
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 11: They're sleep They can go in the other room, my baby,

732
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 11: that's too funny. Oh, he couldn't handle it.

733
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that is sweet. So so your youngest

734
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: is thirteen, Yeah, okay, he's.

735
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 6: The boss, that one.

736
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 10: That boy, he's almost Michael's height.

737
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: We named him a legend amazing.

738
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 11: Help Yeah, yeah, help, yeah, don't name your son legendever,

739
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 11: you do.

740
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 7: He he he doesn't think we're real about our music. Yeah,

741
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 7: because it's not hip hop or anything that.

742
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: He's like, he's into other things.

743
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 7: You don't want to make no real money, mom and dad, playing.

744
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 6: Boy, do you know?

745
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 10: And then if he asked for something, your boys are

746
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 10: probably not. They're not.

747
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: They're not there yet.

748
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 10: Well, when he wants something, he's.

749
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 11: Gotten to this point now where he understands he can

750
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 11: google stuff, so he googles. You know, nothing is real

751
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 11: in Wikipedia, nothing's really how much we he thinks we make?

752
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: Oh, and then he tells you he shots it and.

753
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 10: He sends to me, you can't get me.

754
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 11: He's like, Mom, what do you mean you can't afford

755
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 11: two hundred dollars worth of roadblock?

756
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 12: Oh?

757
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like it's not you don't have a job.

758
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 7: You have, you don't have to work.

759
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 6: Oh, my god.

760
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 12: We he his favorite sty like it's so interesting because

761
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 12: we have another side of us that's more like what jazz,

762
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 12: like classic jazz, And both him and the youngest daughter,

763
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 12: they're like, if it ain't that, we don't want to

764
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 12: hear it.

765
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 7: It's so weird.

766
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 12: Like he wants the horns, he wants the strings. He's

767
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 12: like Frank Sinatra or King.

768
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 20: You know.

769
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 10: He's like, I can't.

770
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Well some day you can't force them right now, you know. So, yeah,

771
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: I have the kids all been on the road at

772
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: various times, and just kind of he.

773
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 7: Was on the road forever because we homeschooled.

774
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: Him when he was little, so you could go on

775
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: the road till he was twelve.

776
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 12: Actually the first year, this first year, he's doing so good.

777
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 12: I'm so proud.

778
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 11: He set us down with like, we don't I don't

779
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 11: to do this anymore. I don't want to be around

780
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 11: a bunch of old people.

781
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: Well that's a good age to like just make a switch.

782
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: But how cool that he'll be happy he did it.

783
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's very happy his friends.

784
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 7: I don't think we're that old.

785
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: Later he'll be happy that you did that, that you

786
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: homeschooled women took him out and we're together striving.

787
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 7: He doesn't have any social issues like he's he's just

788
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 7: he's really cool.

789
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: That's great.

790
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 10: All about kids are great. They make it easy, you know,

791
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 10: because it could be you.

792
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Know, no, I don't know at all. What are you

793
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: talking about?

794
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 10: You know, just you just pray that you get the kids.

795
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 11: That's like, I understand, you're working, understand, it's okay. And

796
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 11: we've just been fortunate enough to our kids aren't making

797
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 11: us pay.

798
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

799
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 7: Only one that was not like that is Legend.

800
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

801
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 12: Well, I mean when he was a baby boy, like

802
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 12: I'm talking about like two or three, and we were

803
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 12: taking places, he'd heckled us in a real.

804
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: Way, like listen, heckled you.

805
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 12: We had we weren't like we were on the circuit

806
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 12: of really trying our hearts be discovered. And our first

807
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 12: show in Nashville was at this brewery called Tennessee Brewers

808
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 12: and it was just Tyan. I like, no guitar, no,

809
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 12: not just keys and Tyana and no babysitter. Can not

810
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 12: find anyone. So we had to bring this three year

811
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 12: old boy into this brewery and they let us do

812
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 12: it because I was like, he's gonna sit right here,

813
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 12: where we could see him.

814
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: On the side of the stage.

815
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 7: No, he just sat in front the table.

816
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

817
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 7: And I put his toys. We set them up.

818
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 12: I was like, yeah, son, I thought I did the

819
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 12: right thing. I was like, you have to be a

820
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 12: good boy. Okay, we'll get your milkshake.

821
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 7: After he's like, yeah, you know, and I thought that, Yeah,

822
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 7: I meant okay, I got it.

823
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 15: Yeah.

824
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 7: No, we start singing. It was a three hour set,

825
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 7: one of those.

826
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 6: Norah.

827
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 12: We get through the first song by the skin of

828
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 12: our teeth. Oh my gosh, because he's like, boom, this

829
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 12: is the sucks.

830
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 6: You're terrible.

831
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 7: Oh god, my ears are bleeding now. And then he's like,

832
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 7: look at me, I'm letting TV.

833
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 12: He's standing up, running across the tables, and then he

834
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 12: takes the salt and pepper shaker.

835
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 7: He's like, come daddy, Oh my god.

836
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: He looks like it was like a scene in a.

837
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 7: Movie's laughing while meantime is like trying.

838
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 6: To the action right back.

839
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 7: Both took him to the bathroom.

840
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, sit down you David's I was like,

841
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: what is you.

842
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 7: Because I won't do it again, daddy. Oh Dan, I'm

843
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 7: so sorry. I'm sorry, daddy, I won't do it again.

844
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 7: Good boy. I was, okay, we should go back out

845
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 7: and we started next song. He's like, oh boy, where

846
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 7: is this over?

847
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: Your impression of him is like, Elmo, I love it.

848
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 7: I'm going to show you when we're doing this. And

849
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 7: I look over at the guy who had us.

850
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 6: I said, he was like he did two.

851
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 7: We don't worry about We got our control all the

852
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 7: way back where we came. And he was quiet the

853
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 7: whole time.

854
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: Like he knew.

855
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, he knew, you know. And we were we were

856
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 10: in that was like the toughest time of our lives.

857
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: That's a hard time to be touring with a kid.

858
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 18: Yeah.

859
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 11: And we were homeless too, like we were Yeah, we

860
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 11: we lived prior to hitting the road, like twenty different places.

861
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 10: And and we ended up stumbling into Maryland.

863
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 11: At a service and a guy was like, I see

864
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 11: you guys have this at this time he was like four,

865
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 11: maybe Legend was four.

866
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 7: And that's Chattanooga talking about him. That's Chattanooga.

867
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 10: And we just roughed it out, you know. But we

868
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 10: used to have to take him everywhere, you know.

869
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 11: Have Care dot Com was our friend, remember that we

870
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 11: get people like come to venues and watch your kid

871
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 11: in the dressing room.

872
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 7: It was like every babysitter we would get.

873
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was crazy.

874
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 12: Really, he was not bad, he was he's just difficult,

875
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 12: very experienced and being difficult.

876
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, he knew how to get rid of him.

877
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: Oh he did it on purpose. Oh my, Well that's

878
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: the whole intense thing.

879
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 6: That's a whole yeah.

880
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 20: But what not to do.

881
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 10: With your kid on the road.

882
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: You're just on the on the road constantly. So you

883
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: didn't have a home, and you just lived on the road.

884
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 7: We've lived out in the R and V. We lived

885
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 7: out of our vans.

886
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 12: We've we've we had Because when I met Tanya, I

887
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 12: was already a homeless veteran. I had a hard time

888
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 12: really Yeah, after my first divorce, like my divorce with

889
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 12: my children's mom, I couldn't get it together. I was

890
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 12: stuck and just I didn't have help. But also the

891
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 12: military didn't know that I was a homeless bat, you know.

892
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 12: And what just happens in this country a lot like

893
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 12: the Army or Marine or Navy, whatever, they don't necessarily

894
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 12: once you become a veteran, you're no longer their responsibility.

895
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 12: It's the VA's responsibility, but the VA, you have to

896
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 12: go to it in order for the VA to know

897
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 12: what your situation is.

898
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: Not everybody knows how to ask for home.

899
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 7: And most of those guys are like me.

900
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 12: They come out of war, they don't really trust it,

901
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 12: they're afraid, and they go back. And I was going

902
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 12: through a lot of that, and I couldn't get a job.

903
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 12: Our country was going through a period where the incentive

904
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 12: was to hire an ex con first, and so I'd

905
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 12: be an interviews with an ex con and I'm like,

906
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 12: you're going to get this child over because the incentive.

907
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: Is to do that, you know, and that's crazy.

908
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 7: But one day, just to term I mean, the don

909
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 7: was was actually.

910
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 20: In for us.

911
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 11: And you know how you meet artists, I mean you

912
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 11: have probably come across lots of artists and you look

913
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 11: at that person and you're like, this person really deserves

914
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 11: somebody to just tarry with them a little longer, you know,

915
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 11: hang in there so that they can be discovered. And

916
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 11: for me, that was Michael, Like I'd never met anybody

917
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 11: that deserved it more, you know, from his experience, his writing,

918
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 11: his heart and then you know, on top of me

919
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 11: being in love with him, I was just like he's

920
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 11: such a giving person, you know, and how he loved

921
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 11: people and how he served people, not just in the army,

922
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 11: but his family. We would go to churches and different

923
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 11: things like that, how people responded to him, and so

924
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 11: for me it was like we were like, well, you

925
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 11: could have went out and got a job and did different.

926
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 11: It was more so of just trying to make sure

927
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 11: that his dream happened, you know, and I was I mean,

928
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 11: once we started saying together, then it became.

929
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 7: I didn't know what I mean.

930
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 12: When I met Tanya, and I was writing songs and

931
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 12: in hopes that well, maybe this can do something. You know,

932
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 12: I've been hearing about songwriting, but I was more so

933
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 12: focused on trying to figure out where I was going

934
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 12: to take my daughter's when I.

935
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 7: Picked them up.

936
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: It's like you were dealing yeaheah, I'm in it.

937
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 12: And but you know, at the same time, Tyan was

938
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 12: in her own recovery journey, you know, and so we

939
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 12: cleave to another. But I told her I'll never forget

940
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 12: because I knew she was. I was like, hey, I

941
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 12: since she's starting to have feelings for me, because our

942
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 12: conversations are getting longer, you know, all the things.

943
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: So it started with just the songs.

944
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, and there's snowballs. And I told her, I was like, hey,

945
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 12: I am I'm not a catch. I was like, don't

946
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 12: don't fall from me.

947
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 7: I'm not a catch.

948
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: I was like, you're being protective definitely.

949
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 12: Of her, because I was like, you know what, I'm

950
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 12: not going to be another story for another female. You know,

951
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 12: I had a lot of letdowns, you know, and then

952
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 12: with my my daughter's moms, we were children when we

953
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 12: got together, so you know, I didn't really count that,

954
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 12: you know, and so and I just knew that I

955
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 12: didn't want to be the cause of another heartbreak or whatever.

956
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 12: So I said, hey, I'm not a catch. I'm not established.

957
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 12: I don't have any money. I don't have a car,

958
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 12: I don't have a job, I don't have a house.

959
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 12: I was like, I am what they call that song scrub.

960
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's me. I was like, I said, but.

961
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 12: I know I'm supposed to be something in life. I

962
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 12: just don't know what it is. But I do know

963
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 12: how to love. I said that that's the one thing

964
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 12: I know how to do. And I said, but I

965
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 12: don't know how to get to whatever it is. And

966
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 12: we were sitting at her in her friend's house where

967
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 12: Tiny was staying time with staying with her friend.

968
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 7: We were sitting at her friend's house.

969
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 12: She had this bar downstairs, and I'm telling her that

970
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 12: and then she goes, well, okay, I'm going to tell

971
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 12: you what I see. And she just pats my knee

972
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 12: like that, and I'm like, what do you see? She's like,

973
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 12: I see it, King, you just need the right kind

974
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 12: of queen in your life. And I just started, like,

975
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 12: I was like.

976
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: It's not very shy.

977
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 6: I was way I was.

978
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 11: And it took us actually three years to actually sing together.

979
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 11: Got married and didn't sing to me years. Most people

980
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 11: would think like, oh, they just, you know, got married.

981
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 10: For the music.

982
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: So he wrote songs for you and your brother, But

983
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: you did you guys?

984
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 18: Did you know?

985
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 10: You didn't start singing?

986
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, and her and her brother never matrid, never.

987
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 12: But what happened within those three years was Tanya pretty

988
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 12: much started studying me. You know, I would get jobs

989
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 12: and not be able to keep them. After a while,

990
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 12: the only job I could get was playing for church,

991
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 12: and that was like horrible. I mean that paid me

992
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 12: like one hundred and twenty five dollars a Sunday.

993
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 7: And you can't.

994
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: That's just one so weak.

995
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 15: Yeah.

996
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 12: And then I had I had kids, you know, And

997
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 12: but it was the fourth of July in Detroit to

998
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 12: where Detroit got some things out there that kind of

999
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 12: sound like the fourth July. And I was like, dog

1000
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 12: and I'm calling commands and I'm diving under stuff. And

1001
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 12: that's when she's like, WHOA, what's going on here? And

1002
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 12: so I'm like, WHOA, I'm good.

1003
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 7: I'm good.

1004
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 12: And then the next fourth of July it happens again.

1005
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 12: Sometimes like we have to talk, you know, the kids

1006
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 12: are crying and everyone's scared and doesn't really know what

1007
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 12: it is.

1008
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 7: And I'm like, uh, I'm a war veteran.

1009
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: You didn't know this.

1010
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 10: No, you never never shared this with her, no one.

1011
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 12: Because when I came home, So I served under President Bush. Yeah,

1012
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 12: and when I came home it was two thousand and

1013
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 12: seven Baltimore.

1014
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 19: It was not.

1015
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 7: I quickly understood that my country was against my uniform.

1016
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: This is so deep.

1017
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I was like, oh, in order for me to.

1018
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 12: Survive my country now and the war my country is in,

1019
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 12: it's best I don't tell anyone that I was a soldier. Wow.

1020
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 12: Because then questions began, then you gotta tell you know,

1021
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 12: And so I just thought and it wasn't serving me.

1022
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 12: I couldn't get a job on them because they would

1023
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 12: rather hire an next con because the x kan is

1024
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 12: more afraid to mess up or to flip out than

1025
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 12: a war veteran because he can blame it.

1026
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 7: On the war.

1027
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm getting this. It's really really incredible.

1028
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 7: But Tanya found within the three years. Tanya, after I.

1029
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: Told her, you've been married about three years?

1030
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're married for three years.

1031
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 12: After I tell her, she then goes into the study

1032
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 12: on the VA and the process, and so she contacts

1033
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 12: our senator and tells our senator about me and what

1034
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 12: was going on. And our senator was like, well, we'll

1035
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 12: look into it. And when they looked into my military

1036
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 12: file and they contented the VA and the VA was like, oh,

1037
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 12: he's well, he's actually highly decorated. It's not like he

1038
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 12: was a problem or anything like that.

1039
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 18: And so.

1040
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 7: This is so crazy.

1041
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 12: We got a letter from the Senator like, hey, they're

1042
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 12: working on his claim, but until then, here's a check

1043
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 12: for five thousand dollars just to hold over because they're

1044
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 12: working some things up. When they got done. The military

1045
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 12: owed me backpack for injuries.

1046
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: And gave me pension, but you hadn't been collecting, and so.

1047
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 7: Now everything changed.

1048
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 12: And so what happens is now the military is paying

1049
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 12: me monthly even now, even my stipend and everything. It

1050
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 12: helped us get on our feet and chase that dream

1051
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 12: and still have a place to come home to.

1052
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 7: I mean, like things just so, and that's that's her.

1053
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: This is incredible. Your story is incredible, both of you

1054
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: and then together and.

1055
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 16: Then yeah yeah, music and love say yeah, well, well

1056
00:58:50,160 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 16: my goodness, it's gonna listen.

1057
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 6: To che No mm hmm. Why you have to go

1058
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 6: a far day above? Until you I.

1059
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 7: I was in the douggle.

1060
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 6: Why you have to go it? Filf?

1061
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 7: A minu.

1062
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 6: An by the wall? No, I've dismissed a four in

1063
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 6: the light in the hall, A long line. You lost

1064
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 6: someone a hard I want to come running.

1065
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: Both out.

1066
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 18: The night brown long along and you walk You lost

1067
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 18: someone a hoard?

1068
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: Someone ah, come running?

1069
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: Let you?

1070
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 6: Why do you have to go and play with me?

1071
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 18: Didn't you know I'm a flog talking?

1072
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, where did they go and play with me? Yeah?

1073
01:01:47,160 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 6: You're not the one. Oh no, you're mister in the nine.

1074
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 6: Then you are you someone o? Someone ready in that

1075
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 6: mon night in the now a new one? You want

1076
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 6: someone else?

1077
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 18: Someone money? Really moday night turns it today?

1078
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 6: Well it's not for me to stand say you old

1079
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 6: d in the.

1080
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 14: You want so on an, you want so one of.

1081
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh guys a power, Oh god, you queen, try to

1082
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: get it there. I love it.

1083
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 10: It's big and it just came down. It's so cool.

1084
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 10: I love it. We have to do one, like like

1085
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 10: we gotta do one train one together.

1086
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be so fun. Yeah.

1087
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 12: I had so many thoughts, you know, so I didn't

1088
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 12: have confidence on the piano. You sure do now, well

1089
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 12: I have listen in the fandom. I'm not fanding in

1090
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 12: twenty fourteen, Yeah, I was. I used to set Tanya up.

1091
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 12: She would sing at churches and I'll let the church

1092
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 12: music just play for Yeah.

1093
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 11: She's like, Michael, you need to play the spar was

1094
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 11: like I would get up there and it's nothing like

1095
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 11: playing with the piano.

1096
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: Player that outplays you or also knows you.

1097
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 7: Well.

1098
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 11: I mean what I would get with these piano players

1099
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 11: and they would outplay the song.

1100
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: They would be too much, And I'm like, that's what

1101
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: you're talking and.

1102
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 11: I'm not like, you know, I don't do all the

1103
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 11: riffs and trills, and well, they're not listening. Yes, they're

1104
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 11: listening to themselves. And she so listening to like Michael's

1105
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 11: playing and you're playing. You all are sensitive to the

1106
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 11: voice and the song and the intimacy of the song.

1107
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 11: So we would go to these churches and I'm like,

1108
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 11: they're wearing me out on this piano.

1109
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: So I can't keep up, and you can't you can't

1110
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: sing over it.

1111
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 11: No, you can't kill yourself trying to do. And Michael

1112
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 11: just has just touch in the same Well.

1113
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 12: I didn't believe it because you know, growing up in

1114
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 12: the church, the flashier you were, it's like the more

1115
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 12: the spirit moves or something.

1116
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 9: So it treats you.

1117
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 7: It's not real because you got in real world and

1118
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 7: you're like, where's the song?

1119
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1120
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: But there's a balance.

1121
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 12: Yes, So before we moved to Michigan, we were living

1122
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 12: in Townson, Maryland, and you know, we're through a period

1123
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 12: where it's still like that, like the guitar is like

1124
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 12: a thing thing, like everyone wanted to play the guitar.

1125
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 12: No one really was doing keys like that, and so

1126
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 12: I was like I can't play the guitar. I'm so,

1127
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 12: but someone freed me. I watched a concert of Norah

1128
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 12: j It's true, yes, and it was just you in

1129
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 12: a piano and I was like, tell you look at

1130
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 12: and I swear to God because it was like I

1131
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 12: watched this over and over and over again because I

1132
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 12: was like, how does she like?

1133
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 7: Okay?

1134
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 12: And you would play and sing and your playing complimented

1135
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 12: your vocal so perfectly, you know, and the only person

1136
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 12: like you know, I mean, Nina some moment does it wonderfully,

1137
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 12: you know, Ray Charles, But nobody in our day and age,

1138
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 12: for me, was doing it. And then I saw that

1139
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 12: concert and then it caused me going deep dive and

1140
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 12: I saw you with another configuration where I want to

1141
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 12: say it was the Blade brother Brian Blade, Yeah, Brian

1142
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 12: Blade and and uh it was an upright Bassis and

1143
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 12: I was like, oh my God, like listen to this sound.

1144
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 12: And then I saw you in all these different configurations,

1145
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 12: and so it gave me the confidence I needed to

1146
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 12: be able to just trust me and trust me you

1147
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 12: know where I want to jump out at, you know,

1148
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 12: because you can see like.

1149
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 7: You know, you get amazing grace. How sweet.

1150
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 6: The shach like mean.

1151
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: I was, but now out.

1152
01:07:51,680 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 6: Blood blood.

1153
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 7: I created that off of you.

1154
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 11: No, yeah, like the pacing like you are this Generations

1155
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 11: one of the best vocal pacers I've ever heard.

1156
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 10: In my So you make the music wait for you.

1157
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 11: I mean, I think a lot of artists are afraid

1158
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 11: of the silence spaces and.

1159
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 10: Places, you know, And what you do is you allow.

1160
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 11: The music to people to get into you and then

1161
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 11: like here I comes, she does.

1162
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 7: She lets it. She just let me touch you. And

1163
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 7: she's just I mean, like I saw her the first time.

1164
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 7: Maybe when was that time?

1165
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 12: That was three four weeks ago, March nineteenth. I will

1166
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 12: never ever forget this moment at ground Opery. She's on

1167
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 12: the stage and it's her and her configuration, and she's

1168
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 12: got her you know, her fiddle, and.

1169
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 7: She's just singing. And I knew she was staring at

1170
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 7: me while she's singing. But then this person thinks she's

1171
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 7: staring at I'm like, how in the world is this happening?

1172
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 10: And we all were like, and she never went here

1173
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 10: when she just our entire band was trying to get

1174
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 10: here to see you. They all think you're singing to them.

1175
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 7: She's not singing to you.

1176
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: Guys, it's not just that.

1177
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 7: Can Cold. This happens to that can Cold. Everybody talks

1178
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 7: about his boys.

1179
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 12: But unless you understand this and this like his vocabulary

1180
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 12: on the keys, like shaking up and fly.

1181
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: Right package deal.

1182
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's beautiful when it's done the right way.

1183
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 12: And yeah, you know, so I just I wanted to

1184
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 12: tell you that, you know, I wanted to say that, Ohannah,

1185
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 12: we saw you at O Hannah.

1186
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, time was that the first time we met.

1187
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 10: We met at John John.

1188
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: We've seen No, Well, now I see you at everything.

1189
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 6: Grate was so.

1190
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 12: O man and then John prying. Oh I never forget that,

1191
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 12: you know, you coming to dressing room. So that wasn't

1192
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 12: our first time.

1193
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: No, no, well that's really sweet of you to say.

1194
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I think that being yourself is the

1195
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: most important thing, so you playing for yourself is only

1196
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: going to be the thing that you are the most.

1197
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 7: Does that.

1198
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: Collaborating is great, but like you guys, have a thing.

1199
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: Don't leave her hanging next time?

1200
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 7: So fast, I have was gonna meet me at the

1201
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 7: church up there.

1202
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1203
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 10: Oh he was so scared. And we used to play.

1204
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 11: We had so many keyboard nightmares that I'm surprised that

1205
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 11: he still playing well.

1206
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: Piano on the road is hard keyboard since it can

1207
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: be uninspiring to.

1208
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we had a cassio starting. I used to

1209
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 7: plug up.

1210
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 10: I used to put batteries in the casioh my god.

1211
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: You didn't have a play you just had a training

1212
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: little cassio.

1213
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 10: I would take him out on the streets in Richmond

1214
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 10: and put him on the street like.

1215
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 7: He was busky.

1216
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 12: Our first tour, we were playing in this cloth and

1217
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 12: Columbus called George's and we're doing great.

1218
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 7: It's just me tying the cel player and I'm I'm

1219
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 7: holding it down. I was worried.

1220
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 12: I'm like, how am I gonna hold guitar? A guitar

1221
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 12: player can hold down an entire show with the rhythm everything.

1222
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's tricky with piano.

1223
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 6: I'm like, you you got good at rhythm.

1224
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 7: My goodness, you're good at it. I was drenched. The

1225
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 7: club was so hot.

1226
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 10: At three piece suit in a bar.

1227
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, I go playing this song. It's like

1228
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,839
Speaker 7: was boppy, yeah, people clapping.

1229
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 20: No.

1230
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 7: I went to go hit this chord here and every

1231
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 7: key on the piano plad and oh no, I was like,

1232
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 7: I know what it's like.

1233
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 6: I was looking.

1234
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 7: I was like, what is happening? Was like, was just

1235
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 7: like cont down.

1236
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 12: Persons, like he's real classic tras, like hey man, I

1237
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 12: ain't going here to mess up. Man was broke, and

1238
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 12: I was like his sweat it was so much water,

1239
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 12: and that he bore that we had to stop once again.

1240
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 7: I gotta look at the guy.

1241
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: I was like, that's why I was up, because because.

1242
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 10: Man, Yeah, it was terrible. We're done, bro, Yeah, we're

1243
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 10: two songs in it.

1244
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 7: You got to go back there music shop.

1245
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the worst. So many stories, I'm sure, it's

1246
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: so crazy.

1247
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 10: This journey has been wild.

1248
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: It's wild. I loved hearing about it. I love it.

1249
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: I could listen to your stories forever. Let's just hang

1250
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: out somewhere.

1251
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: Let's do that.

1252
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: I've been pretty lucky. I only had one keyboards, neaphoo,

1253
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: and it was on live TV. But oh, I don't

1254
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: know if anybody noticed it, but I was, I was playing.

1255
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: I was.

1256
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: It was Willie Nelson and Paul Simon and they were

1257
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: trading songs. So it was maybe the country music Wars

1258
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: or something. I don't think I saw this. Yeah, and

1259
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: and and Paul Simon did Crazy, and then Willie did

1260
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: Still after all these years, and he asked me to

1261
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: play World. You know, play the World's under him, and

1262
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, they everything's backstage and they hook it up

1263
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: and then it's like a it's like a forty five

1264
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: second part and I'm doing it and the pedal sticks

1265
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: and so everything is sustained and runs together and I

1266
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it.

1267
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 12: That is a whole nother Okay, So let me ask

1268
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 12: you this as a pan player, because I have to

1269
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 12: know because I I lived and died by the pedal

1270
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 12: for a long time. Yeah, because I didn't understand how

1271
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 12: to connect.

1272
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it was going like it was going yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

1273
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 7: I have to have and a keyboard.

1274
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 12: I have to have the sustained pedal plug then, because

1275
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 12: you know, it gives you know, you know. So I

1276
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 12: tell my guys all the time, hey man, make sure

1277
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 12: the pedal is.

1278
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: Oh, because it's easy for them to forget. And it's

1279
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: just kind of this random piece, right, there's nothing worse.

1280
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 7: And you go to play a sustained let it go

1281
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 7: and you're like, and I'm looking at it.

1282
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not working Yeah, well

1283
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: I think I would have rather that than it just

1284
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: be working and then you're playing. And also that song

1285
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: has goes through many different key centers, so it's not

1286
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: like just one.

1287
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 7: Switched on you.

1288
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1289
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 12: Have you ever had that happen where you you hold

1290
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 12: it down and it does sustain, and then you lift

1291
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 12: it up and it's sustained.

1292
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 7: It reversed.

1293
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: That is a real mind Yeah, circus of the mind.

1294
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: Let no go, bro, that's so funny.

1295
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 19: It's not you.

1296
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: Technology is tricky, electronics. We can make it through.

1297
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 6: Yes, y'all do do it well?

1298
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining than so special, Thanks for

1299
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: sharing all your stories.

1300
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 10: Really beautiful listening to us.

1301
01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1302
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 7: Drink.

1303
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 12: I'm so happy and I'm so glad we got a

1304
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 12: chance to tell you how we feel about you.

1305
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

1306
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 12: Think you know or a Tank said something to us

1307
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 12: one time, Tryana. We went out to eat and we

1308
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 12: were just talking about you know, like we were talking

1309
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 12: about when times, about the inspiration and stuff. And Tanya

1310
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 12: was like, I don't know what happened to us as

1311
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 12: a people, Like what and like what's going on? And

1312
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 12: Tank said, we don't impress each other anymore. She's like

1313
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,839
Speaker 12: nobody's impressed by anyone, you know, and why.

1314
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: Is that on the internet.

1315
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 11: I tell you what, I am forever impressed by you.

1316
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 11: Thank you for the last twenty was it twenty?

1317
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm impressed by you, I really am.

1318
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 11: And I'm so grateful that you know, when you did

1319
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 11: what you did with the music, you stuck to it

1320
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 11: and you've been consistent with it and given so many

1321
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 11: people like you said just be yourself to tell young

1322
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 11: people to be themselves like now you know, Yeah, it's

1323
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 11: so powerful and for you to be that example, never

1324
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 11: changing and every time you see you all the time like.

1325
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 12: You are every time, it's more pieces of you that

1326
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 12: it's just like, yeah, like did you see that?

1327
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1328
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 11: Just watching you unfold and become this beautiful woman, I

1329
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 11: mean you're just this No, seriously, you just became like

1330
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 11: you you were.

1331
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 10: A woman at what were you like twenty twenty one?

1332
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 7: So child? I was like this, who is this woman?

1333
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: I was so grown up?

1334
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 11: You were I was, but you made so many of

1335
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 11: us want to grow up. Like listening to these songs

1336
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 11: and this music, it was like, oh, this is how

1337
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 11: twenty one and twenty two is supposed to look.

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Speaker 10: You were like I'm a grown woman.

1339
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: Well I had an old lady music taste, like, yeah, we.

1340
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 12: Will never like I wish I could have been in

1341
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 12: the clubs sitting down watching Ella Fitzer sing Mac the Knife,

1342
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 12: or like can you imagine being in the room when

1343
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 12: Billie Holliday came first saying.

1344
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 7: Strange fruit Like, I'm like, how privileged were they?

1345
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 12: I mean, YouTube is as closest we can get because

1346
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 12: we're not We're not we aren't creating artists like that anymore,

1347
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 12: you know. I mean, Samara is doing a wonderful job,

1348
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 12: but you know, like there's something about being able to

1349
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 12: be in the presence of that and for me, you know,

1350
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 12: and Tanya your Ohanna said, you know, I'll never forget that.

1351
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 7: Like me and my guys and time we were just

1352
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 7: sitting there and you know.

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 12: It's outside, and I was like, I wonder what what set,

1354
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 12: what what Nora is gonna do because it's outside.

1355
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 7: Gonna said they're skunk drunk, you know, and I'm like, oh,

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01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 7: I'm very interested.

1357
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: To see this because it was light out still, but

1358
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: it was so.

1359
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 7: The move like you came out and Brian was on

1360
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 7: there and you had an upright base.

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01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: I forget well that was Chris Thomas.

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01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, and you played and we all were just like, well,

1363
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 12: this is what I mean by the presence. We get

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01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 12: to experience one of our legends do her thing.

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01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 7: You know. I hate that. I never got a chance

1366
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 7: to see Ray Charles. I never got a chance to

1367
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 7: see Nina. So did you get a chance.

1368
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: I never saw Nina? And I kicked myself because when

1369
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: I moved to New York, she played every year at

1370
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: Carnie Hall, and I just you know, I didn't maybe

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01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: have the money or I thought, oh, I'll see your

1372
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: next year. And yeah, but I saw Ray play in

1373
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: high school. Oh wow, and it was great, but it

1374
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: was very like you know, Short and Medley.

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01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 7: I mean, it was great, but you wanted more.

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1377
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: I think I wanted more, or maybe my mom wanted more.

1378
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: And I'm just remembering that she saw him play when

1379
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: she was in high school in a high school gymnasium.

1380
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, sixties, that's that's the I know. I was like,

1381
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: that's what she's expected.

1382
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 7: Was your first concert?

1383
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: My first concert ever was Empty Hammer?

1384
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, you got to see that.

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01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: In Alaska at a stadium.

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01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 19: Oh, she has so many people on that stage. Yeah,

1387
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 19: so good, honey, yours was Wayne Houston. That's amazed that

1388
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 19: was your first thought, No, Saravon.

1389
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 10: I saw was right when I was thirteen. Blues Alley.

1390
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: Amazing.

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01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, at Blues Alley and my friend took us there

1392
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 11: and I was all dressed that they had to dress

1393
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 11: me up to make me look older so.

1394
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: You could get in. And I was like, oh, that

1395
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:52,440
Speaker 1: is incredible.

1396
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 13: Is that amazing?

1397
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 10: It was Oscar Peterson was on key.

1398
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no way.

1399
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 11: Because my friend was a piano player and he was

1400
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 11: like obsessed. He was like, this guy's playing. You got

1401
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 11: to see him, this guy.

1402
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, like I'm thirteen.

1403
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 10: And then he was like, do you know who's playing?

1404
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 11: And I am like no, because I was listening to

1405
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 11: the jazz stuff at school. My you know, my teacher

1406
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 11: was like a band teacher, so he was like the

1407
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 11: voice that you need to listen to.

1408
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 6: A mimic.

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01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 10: She was in incredible. She's fun too, she really is.

1410
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: She really will stretch you up and down.

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01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, and she was down here yeah, and she

1412
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 10: go up here and.

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01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 6: Yeah she was old and this.

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01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 11: Richness she was older. She had on this like this

1415
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 11: long kind of kimono kind of it was like a

1416
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 11: brown with like the shiny stuff on it.

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01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 7: And I was thirty.

1418
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: That is incredible.

1419
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 7: How were you when you saw I.

1420
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 1: Was probably eleven or twelve.

1421
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I was ten on my first come.

1422
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 10: I saw Whitney at seventeen.

1423
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 7: That's my second seventeen. I hate telling people who mine

1424
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 7: as well.

1425
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 12: It was the best and worst experience of my life,

1426
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 12: and for the same exact reason. I mean, it was

1427
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 12: weird because it was the best because it was so amazing,

1428
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 12: and it was the worst because it was so amazing.

1429
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 12: But I was blindfolded Cleveland, Ohio at the Cleveland Coliseum

1430
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 12: back in the day. I was ten years old and

1431
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 12: my godmother took me into the coliseum and then unfolded me.

1432
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 12: It was pitch black and then this music with po

1433
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 12: and out of the center of the stage pops out

1434
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 12: Michael Jackson.

1435
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and she surprised you.

1436
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I was like, And it was the worst

1437
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 12: because Michael stood there for fifteen minutes literally because they

1438
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 12: had to cart people out from passing over.

1439
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 6: Serious, Yes, I'm crazy.

1440
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 12: It was insane and it was this what happened throughout

1441
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 12: the entire concert, People.

1442
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 7: Just drop I mean, but he was. I would you

1443
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 7: don't want that to be your.

1444
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: First because it's too high bar.

1445
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 7: It's too high bar.

1446
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 12: Like everything about him, like standing there for fifteen minutes,

1447
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 12: you don't even realize it's fifteen until you look over

1448
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 12: because there's a ticker.

1449
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, and because everything.

1450
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 12: He does was like precise, and then how he emotionally

1451
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 12: just took everybody like he's doing all the jamming, He's

1452
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 12: doing everything, and he does through her. But this was

1453
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 12: the moment in his career where he was ending all

1454
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 12: of his shows with She's out of my life, and

1455
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 12: he would like cry in the middle of it, you.

1456
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: Know, but.

1457
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 6: It's just the keys Lie shout my life.

1458
01:23:54,520 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 7: And I was like perfect, perfect big. I was like,

1459
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 7: this is ridiculous. I don't ever know this my first

1460
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 7: ruin he was.

1461
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 12: It was, I mean, not many people get I mean

1462
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 12: people have seen them, but not many people get a

1463
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 12: chance to say like that was.

1464
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 7: Their first time.

1465
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my first.

1466
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 7: Incredible Michael Jackson.

1467
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: Well when you were young, so not many people your

1468
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: age got to see that.

1469
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 7: No, No, I mean we I walked away with the

1470
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 7: hat and the glove.

1471
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 6: It was.

1472
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,839
Speaker 7: Had a glove, right, Yeah, I got in so much trouble.

1473
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 12: Like the next day I cut all my pants, my

1474
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 12: white saw and then all of a sudden, high waters

1475
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 12: became a.

1476
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 10: Thing like high water my mother's communion gloves.

1477
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 6: School.

1478
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 7: I can't think about gloves for community.

1479
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 9: I can't get it.

1480
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 7: This Sunday, Well, I'm so.

1481
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 20: Glad that you.

1482
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 7: This is pretty cool.

1483
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: You guys are special. Well, we'll hang out again.

1484
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 3: I know it.

1485
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Yes, let's go out on a song that's good. This

1486
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: do leads me home.

1487
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 10: Let's do it hip journey.

1488
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 15: By getting bye until you get to the bye bye

1489
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 15: and me your Maybe you're up being big house.

1490
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 13: Some guy.

1491
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 6: Has travel.

1492
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 18: To and fro.

1493
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 7: Sometimes you get along trying to go.

1494
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 12: Back to a familiar places where you straight where from.

1495
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 6: Leave me on the other side of the railroad, where

1496
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 6: the mountain teas, the crystal sheeps to the lands flow.

1497
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 20: Hid fa strada of those country roads, you.

1498
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: Will ways be.

1499
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 6: The water leads me home.

1500
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 10: I haven't been by.

1501
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 8: The hard times.

1502
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 5: When you found me, I had lost my mind. Begin

1503
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 5: where I was going, Patty where I came from, me.

1504
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 2: Me on the other side of the railroad.

1505
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 5: Where the mountain based crystal streets through the lads.

1506
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 20: Flow in yards of Final Shade Narrow on the Country Falls,

1507
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 20: you will alwate me, the one that.

1508
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 6: Least Me Home. It is a ready.

1509
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 7: You cha, Yes it happened.

1510
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thank you, thanks for listening.

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01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 10: That was so fun.

1512
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: It was amazing. I can't believe that story. Yeah, that

1513
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: was believable. Play learning how to play and sing and

1514
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Sadam Yeah, busted out palace no big deal. Now, Oh

1515
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: my god, that's so intense. It was a very, very

1516
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 1: touching story. I'm really so glad that I get to

1517
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: be with them. This was nice. If you want to

1518
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: know what songs we played in this episode, the first

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01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: song was Hustling from their album Heartstown, released in twenty twenty.

1520
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: The second song was Hey, Pretty Moon from Heartstown also,

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01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: and the third song was Mister Fun from the album

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01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: Plus One released in twenty twenty five. The fourth song

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01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: we did was leads Me Home, also from Plus One

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01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: released in twenty twenty five. Special thanks to the Warren

1525
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: Treaty for joining us today, Michael and Tania and We'll

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01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: be back next week with Josh Grobin. Nora Jones Is

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Speaker 1: Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Follow Nora

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01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: Jones is Playing Along and start listening on the free

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Today, I'm your host, Nora Jones. This episode

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Speaker 1: was recorded by Matt Marinelli, mixed by j Ammy Landry.

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Speaker 1: Audio post production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Artwork by

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Speaker 1: Eliza Frye. Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by Nora Jones

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Speaker 1: and Sarah Oda Hey. That's Us Gay. Executive Producers Aaron

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