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Speaker 2: And her response to that was jay Z is tooking

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Speaker 1: I'm a date? So I say that to say and

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Speaker 1: and that can lead you into some caves, yeah, dad,

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Speaker 1: because ultimate power, power corrupts, and that's the thing that

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Speaker 1: That what I'm saying, So how do you even leave?

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Let's roll play this. If

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna deal with. How You're just gonna

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Speaker 2: Have to do that through action. Make sure y'all check

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Speaker 2: out the but Loom Man. The boy.

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Speaker 1: The boy's very man like, you know, substantially smart man,

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Speaker 1: You first get the money, you got to catch up

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Speaker 2: You in a deficit.

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Speaker 1: You in a deficit, You coming from nothing, So you

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Speaker 1: You know, they call it black Friday because most of

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Speaker 2: So for me, it took me.

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Speaker 1: I tell people all the time I got on TV

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Speaker 1: Right there, It's going to save you to where you

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Speaker 2: We have plans, but you know what I mean, your

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Speaker 1: But if you got the insurance always I mean life

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Speaker 1: the mental capacity right reach millions, Yes, to reach millions, yeah, brother,

435
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean to touch a certain demographic that don't listen

436
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: to nobody, But that got the type of experiences that

437
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: you have. So that isolation has granted you the ability

438
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: to be able to sit in front of a camera

439
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 1: where I'm sure at one point in your life the

440
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: camera was the last thing you wanted to see under

441
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: any that's the last yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying.

442
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: So you got to look at it. It's all perspective,

443
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: and me being able to have this level of understanding

444
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: only comes from me still utilizing that isolation in a

445
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: way to you know, coping mechanisms essential for guys like us,

446
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: because for me, I understand it as a man, being

447
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: useful is a necessity for us being able.

448
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: To be useful to damn be used. But see, that's

449
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: the thing.

450
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: It's a fine line between being able to be useful

451
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: and then allowing yourself to be used because we all

452
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: are being used and some ways, some kind of way,

453
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: and that usefulness is being used. So you got to

454
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: be able to identify, you know, what that is and

455
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: understand that that's a necessity for a man to be

456
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: able to be used in some way, shape or form.

457
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: Some of it is gonna come with pay, some of

458
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: it is gonna come with love from family, Some of

459
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: it is gonna come from admiration from strangers.

460
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: Some of it is gonna come from hate.

461
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: All of it is encompassed in that usefulness that we

462
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: need to have as men. So you being able to

463
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: find that isolation within yourself and that protection that you

464
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: put on yourself has allowed you to be able to

465
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: reach people in ways and walk in the rooms and

466
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: be able to walk into a room without I didn't

467
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: been around you, bro, Like I know the type of energy.

468
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: That's why we connect so much, because I know you

469
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: don't got to be the loudest in the room. You

470
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: can be the silence and still be the focal point

471
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: because your energy is I don't need none of this

472
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: to be who I am. My mirror is my validation. Lord,

473
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So that right there is

474
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: a necessity for you to understand, Just to know that, Bro,

475
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: you ain't cheating yourself because you're giving yourself in ways

476
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: that you probably never even thought that you would be

477
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: able to do on a day to day basis. Especially

478
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: being in the streets, you're only able to see what's

479
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: in front of you if day to day it's minute

480
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: by minute, because you never know, you know what I'm saying.

481
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: So for you to be in a position now where

482
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: you can sit and express yourself not just on your

483
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: own platform, but stretch yourself amongst other people's platforms, allow

484
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: people to come in and sit with you and feel

485
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: comfortable in the nature of what they have in dialogue

486
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: that they don't have with nobody else at all. That's

487
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: what you know. We pride ourselves and especially me, Low's fly,

488
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: all of us. Yeah, we pride ourselves on You ain't

489
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: got to worry about us asking you none of that

490
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: sulf We want to talk to you and make you

491
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: have intelligent, real conversation, engaging dialogue. That's why I'm always

492
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: excited to sit with you. I appreciate you, bro. It's engaging,

493
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: and we don't have to talk about what everybody else

494
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: is talking about what everybody else don't? You know? You

495
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people man. And I tell my fans,

496
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, when I look at Chico being interviews online.

497
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 2: We literally had so.

498
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: Of course Breakfast Club, you always knocked that shit out

499
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: the Paul it's always an Elma Better on Breakfast Club,

500
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: T pain you in T pain chemistry is crazy?

501
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: Did it's us?

502
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, me and this did eight hundred thousand,

503
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: and we didn't talk about no current top. No, it's

504
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: not necessary because when you get into an environment where

505
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: you can where you feel comfortable as as a man,

506
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: that's a that's a necessity that a lot of us

507
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: take for granted, being comfortable.

508
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because as.

509
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: A man, for real, the world is set up for

510
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: you to be uncomfortable and be able to with it. Yeah,

511
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: navigate that being uncomfortable. Yes, So when you find a

512
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: level of comfort, especially amongst another black man who you

513
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: didn't grow up with, from a different city, different environment,

514
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: and you able to find that camaraderie, man's that's priceless.

515
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

516
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: And I'm telling I tell my fans, I'm like, bro,

517
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm so amazed with that. And then all of the comments,

518
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: people just like, bro, we need more of this, we

519
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: need more of this, And I'm like, this ain't even

520
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: what they have podcasting, ass right, they have podcasting as

521
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: chasing the clique, chasing the current topics and things like that.

522
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: We literally sat and chopped it up about no current

523
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: topics and just talked about life and love and relationships

524
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: and growing up and black fatherhood and shit like that.

525
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: And it did eight hundred thousand on the first one,

526
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand on the second. I'm like, because that's

527
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: what we need, that's what's missing, and that's what you provide.

528
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: And that's why I try to make sure that whenever

529
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm in your presence or around you to let you know, bro,

530
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: it ain't too many people that's speaking what you speaking,

531
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: and you you by yourself most of the time. You

532
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean to keep that attention span of

533
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: people when it's just you talking and it's just you

534
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: and the camera and you ain't got nobody that's a

535
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: celebrity or and you talking about whatever it is you

536
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 1: talking about and giving game, and people can sit and

537
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: engage in that. Sometimes a nigga don't even have to

538
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: be paying attention. I just got you running in the back,

539
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: right because subconsciously that's feeding me. Whether you know it

540
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: or not, your subconscious mind is a hundred times more

541
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: powerful than your sleep. Listening in the books and me

542
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: too all the time. You know, See, that's why we click.

543
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: It is because we own the same frequency. Right, We

544
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: elevated this peak perspective, And that's why I try to

545
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: tell people, but we have to do a better job

546
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: at galvanizing us in a group together, right, whether they

547
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: be online virtual, We got to congregate more because that's

548
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: what let people know over here over here. That's why

549
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying what I'm saying to you about that isolation,

550
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: because a lot of us have that commonality and being isolated.

551
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: Dudes with perspectives like us and been through the type

552
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: of things. So if you keep that perspective of ah,

553
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going, then we'll never be able to gather

554
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: that us because you got to figure out if we

555
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: could be the example of what it looks like to

556
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: just for a nigga to open up and say, you

557
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: know what, maybe just in this space, maybe if I

558
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: got just this space, maybe for you know, five ten

559
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: minutes a day, I just open myself up to my

560
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: own thoughts and expressing it, even if I'm not expressing

561
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: it to no other person, just expressing it in some

562
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: way while I'm letting the shit out and allowing myself

563
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: to be free of that pressure that I've become so

564
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: accustomed with dealing with on a day to day basis.

565
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: Then you allow yourself.

566
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: To find your community, you know what I'm saying, in

567
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: ways that you're not going to be to find it.

568
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Like I always tell people like niggas wait to go

569
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: to jail to get intelligent. It's like slim, you ain't

570
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: gotta wait to go to jail to read a book.

571
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta wait gotta go to jail to be respectful. Yeah, yeah,

572
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: I ain't got to wait to go to jail to

573
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: work out right. You know what I'm saying, You can

574
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: do a world free world. Yeah, man, I had a

575
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: got I got a call from the fizzs literally yesterday. Also,

576
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: make sure these cameras are still rolling, you know, some

577
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: of them they'll cut off. But I got a call

578
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: from the fish yesterday. One of my homeboys. Man, he'

579
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: done been to jail a million times. He probably not

580
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: he probably he probably forty eight. He probably not done

581
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: twenty six years in jail and stas like, yeah, you

582
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: know eight, he'll get out for two years. Go do six,

583
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: get out for a year, go do three?

584
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: Get out. So he in the fiz right now.

585
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: And he called me, him and my cousin, who I

586
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: told you got called with the six hundred thousand, seven

587
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: hundred k whatever it was about six fifty.

588
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: Both of them niggas call me in.

589
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: The first thing they say now is na man, man,

590
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm off all this shit, bro, like the real Hebrew

591
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Israel life. Like they going all way, and I'm saying, oh,

592
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: y'all wait, I've been preaching this like, bro, listen when

593
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: they The reason why when I came in the game,

594
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I was so hard on niggas that sell dope is

595
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: because I just left the game and I saw things

596
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: like that nigga. My cousin get caught seven hundred thousand,

597
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: while I of them took a hundred and put into

598
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: this shit and trying to figure it out, run before

599
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: it on this thirty trying to just figure this content

600
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: shit out. I'm seeing ain't nobody else moving from outside

601
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: of the game. And I came in saying, oh, niggas done,

602
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: even though they wasn't done, but I had to communicate

603
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: that way so they get the message. So I'm like, man,

604
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, just was real hard on niggas that only

605
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: sold dope and had enough money to go get a

606
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: house or get into real estate or open a business.

607
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: I just was extremely.

608
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Rough on those guys when I first got in the game,

609
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: and it would resonate so bad because other men, especially

610
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: men who had got out of the street, were feeling

611
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: that and just so happy for me. There's a lot

612
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: of powerful men in this industry who did come from

613
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: the street and was like, he's preaching that shit that

614
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: we need to hear. And so I would be really

615
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: talking to my home boys. I cracked the camera up

616
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: and I'm talking to hundreds of thousands of people, but

617
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm really talking to my guys. Who's still out there

618
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: selling dope, bullshitting, and they got money.

619
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: They got fined six cars. I remember leaving the street.

620
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Man, I had one car, and I had enough money

621
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: to get a meeting car on you know how many

622
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: calls of warning. But I had one car and I

623
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: had three times the money as one of my counterparts.

624
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: But he had five cars and.

625
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: A condo and a crib and an apartment and he

626
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: was paying all HRB bills and tricking on this girl.

627
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: And I'm looking like, all your money, you hustling to

628
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: pay bills standing the ring. Yay, That's exactly what he

629
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: was doing. He was staying in the ring. And so Bro,

630
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: when I came in the game, I was just so

631
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: rough on it. So now to be getting those calls

632
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: from the Fizz or some of those guys are saying, like, yo,

633
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: when I get out, Bro, like I'm start trying to

634
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: talk to the kids, man, and just I'm on some

635
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, of course, I know jail talk, but these guys,

636
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I truly believe they done been spanked and talked in.

637
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

638
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: You going there in that discipline and all of that

639
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: shit that you can find and niggas, you know, what

640
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean. I tell people all the time, and I

641
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: talk to dudes that come from where I come from.

642
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I got a homeboy. Now this gray get knocked over

643
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: the head. You know what I'm saying for doing some

644
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: dumb ass shit that I constantly was telling the man,

645
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: check man, what is you doing?

646
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: Right? You know what I mean?

647
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to go ahead, go ahead,

648
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: go ahead. At the end of the day, you gotta

649
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: let a nigga be what he gonna be. But at

650
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: the same time, Slim, you could have become a Muslim

651
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: when you was free exactly. You know what I mean,

652
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: because that discipline they gonna instill in and you when

653
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: you get into that federal system, that discipline. You can

654
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: find that discipline here and there's plenty of dudes who

655
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: have been in them situations that'll give it to you. Yes,

656
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: that's really looking to that. You know, hey, that ain't

657
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: where you want to go. This is where you want

658
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: to be at. You know what I'm saying. For me,

659
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: like I even have to challenge myself. I challenge myself

660
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: every single day, Like I aud it myself every day.

661
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Without it, there's not a day to go past it.

662
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't audit myself and sometimes you know what I mean,

663
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: I be having to check myself in a real way.

664
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: Like for example, you know, I found out I had

665
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: high blood pressure right in December, right before I went

666
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: to Africa, and you know, I was like, man, I

667
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: don't you know, I ain't got a you know, I

668
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: don't feel like nothing wrong with it. I went back

669
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: in January, right before I went to out the country,

670
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: and the doctor or the black man, and like when

671
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: the second doctor came in, like when the second police

672
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: come here, Like he came in and was like, hey, man,

673
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: everybody lead. I got to talk to this brother.

674
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I don't think you understand the

676
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: severity of what this is for us, right, you know

677
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't think they can't explain it

678
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: to you. How I may explain it to you, But

679
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I got to let you know, man, this is this

680
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: is serious. He said, you know one of the biggest

681
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: of hot blood pressure is it rectile dysfunction. I was like, what,

682
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: I got a chance. I won't eat meat, food, no

683
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: more niggas, but I got a change. But you know,

684
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: we had a long conversation. But in my own internal

685
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: audit that I do. I was like, man, that's a

686
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: fucking shame that they told me that I had high

687
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: blood pressure. They had to take that nigga telling me

688
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: my dick wasn't gonna work for me to feel like

689
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: I needed to move myself to change my ways. And

690
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: now I didn't lost thirty pounds. I can tell to

691
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: I tell that, I can tell you to slim get

692
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: me dead because I had to because it's like, man,

693
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: I can't see myself all of the hall walls ship.

694
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: I have made it through going in the streets outne

695
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: beat all these different mental you know, just all types

696
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: of gymnastics and nigga that had to go through in

697
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: my life. And you won't allowed Fried Chicken to take

698
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: you out of nigga. When I said, you know what

699
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like you're gonna walk around put it out

700
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: to each other. We got to put it like that, like, bro,

701
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna really this can't stop. You can't stop breaking,

702
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: you can't stop the most And it's the thing, I

703
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: understand it.

704
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

705
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: I say this all the time, you know, and me

706
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: talking about it now because it's been it was difficult, bro,

707
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: Like because as black men, We work so hard to

708
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: establish the habits that we have because you coming from nothing,

709
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: you at negative zero. So whatever habits you build, you

710
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten you've worked to build those habits.

711
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: And you know, as I know, even as a young nigga,

712
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: first piece of money, you really get, what's the first

713
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: thing you're gonna go do? Or we gotta eat good? Yeah,

714
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: we gotta go eat good. Yeah hear, Yeah, we gotta

715
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: go eat good. And even if it ain't eating good,

716
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: eating good is whatever you can afford to buy for

717
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: whatever you got going on five well and yeah, five wings,

718
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: mumbo sauce, all that. That was eating good, dous. That

719
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: was what we did. So you established that habit early,

720
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're eating habits and

721
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: your sexual habits as a man, and probably the first

722
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: two habits that you established once you start to get

723
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: in control of your own actions.

724
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: So it's very difficult to break those two.

725
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Probably those two are probably the two of the most

726
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: difficult habits for black men to break. Your sexual habits.

727
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: And you're eating and for me it was like man

728
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: having to cut out. I can't eat chicken no more.

729
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: So you don't show what changes have you made with everything? Man?

730
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: I read this thing called eat for your blood type.

731
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: It's a lady in Atlanta called the Vitamin Lady. Who

732
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: are if you ever in Atlanta, look her up. Man,

733
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: She's a guy needs to go see her, and you

734
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: definitely need to go see her because she takes your

735
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: blood type and she gives you everything that's good for you,

736
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's inflammatory, all the stuff that's that's

737
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: you know that you can have stuff that's centralized where

738
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: you it ain't bad or it ain't good, all of that.

739
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: And once I got that, I saw that most of

740
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: the things that I enjoyed were bad for it.

741
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: And that's how we're usually.

742
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: And it's like, damn, Like I can't chicken is the

743
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: worst thing that I can have for my blood type?

744
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: What the bread? And I love bread, my nigga.

745
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Like, it's certain places I just got to ride past

746
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: singing into the room now because I know I can't

747
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: but for me to have to look at myself in

748
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: the mirror and say, man, fuck it, I'm man, man,

749
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: you only live in one nigga. Give me the two

750
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: piece breast wing. Nah, you know what I'm saying. Because

751
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: if I can beat all of the other ship that

752
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't beat this, I can't let this. This is

753
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: a midget. Yeah this, yeah, yeah, I can't even know

754
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: it's grandiose because, man, I'm telling you Loan, like when

755
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: I got back from Africa, I really kicked it in right,

756
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: And I say, from from I got back probably like

757
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: January nine. I probably started like that the week after that,

758
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I say, from January to probably mid March. Physically, man,

759
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: my body went through it. I mean a vicious detox. Man,

760
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about just the craving that you'll buy that

761
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: too for the sugar and and what does it feel like?

762
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Man?

763
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I ain't never did, but I could imagine that. That's

764
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: what it feels like. Yeah, like your buy it. Your

765
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: body it hurt, like you wake up in the middle

766
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: of the night. It take you out your sleep. It's

767
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: hard to you know, you change your sleeping habits. You

768
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: feel tired, like coming off weed, like coming off of anything.

769
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: Your body detoxing off it and you and it's so

770
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: much difficult, you know, I mean more difficult for somebody

771
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: who detox and off dope, because dope caused more than

772
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: the chicken wing.

773
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You can easily just double

774
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: back and go just something.

775
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: So for me, it was like that was one of

776
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: the most difficult mental processes that I've ever had to

777
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: go through, and really cutting that ship out because I

778
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: knew it was necessary. But once I what motivated me

779
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: was I started to see the benefits, like I suffer

780
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: from my grains for the longest man migrains and subciety

781
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: blood pressure. I mean all that blood pressure ship, but

782
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know because we don't go to the doctor.

783
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: And I refuse to get on that medication because once

784
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: you get on that medicine, and I, you know, salute

785
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: to the doc man forgiving me that game because he

786
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: told me, man, I don't want you to get on

787
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: the medication, change this ship, because if I put you

788
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: on the medication, get off, it's gonna always be something

789
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: that you need. So for me, it was just like

790
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: going through that transition and just changing the eating habits

791
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: and changing the time of night that I eat, cause

792
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, my job don't start tail seven. So I

793
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: get off of stage at the door two shows after

794
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: a show. Uh shit, I don't. I try not to

795
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: eat after shows. I try to eat before. But like,

796
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: what do you want did you replace Lamb, which.

797
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: I never was? You know, God, damn, I eat like

798
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: a toddler.

799
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Like Lamb was something I

800
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: don't I wasn't fucking with, but Lamb was good for me,

801
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: so I tried it. I enjoy So I eat lamb, turkey,

802
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: and fish them the only three meats that.

803
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: I can have paused.

804
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, like as far as white potatoes,

805
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: I can't eat white rice and white potatoes that ain't

806
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: good for me.

807
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: But sweet potatoes.

808
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: And and you know what I mean, lentils and shit

809
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: like that is good. So just finding places that you

810
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: know had the type of shit that you like and

811
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: it's available to you. You just got you not looking. Yeah,

812
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: that's all is kind of like it catering to that shit.

813
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: It it's kind of like, you know what I'm saying,

814
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: And you don't necessarily have to be a vegan or

815
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: stop eating me. It's ways that you could do it

816
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: to stay in the process of what you like. But

817
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know how when you get

818
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: a car and now you see that motherfucker everywhere. You

819
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, that's pretty much what it is.

820
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: Once you open yourself up to that new environmental food,

821
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: then you start to find the places that off of

822
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: the things that you like where you probably was walking

823
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: past it every day because you was on your way

824
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: to Popeye's and that's all he was thinking about. So

825
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: for me, that's helped tremendously and now to the point

826
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: where and I've been exercised.

827
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: And that's another part. But what kind of exercise, man?

828
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: A lot of cardio, that's all you need you, you know

829
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like incline full incline walk that shit

830
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: will fall off you. And I'm talking about man, I

831
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: was so long, Man, for as long as you can go,

832
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, give yourself at least ten

833
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: minutes starting off, but just keep going. Like for me,

834
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: I was so disappointed in myself when I really started

835
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: to really get in the process of it, because I

836
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: got a gym in my basement too that I was

837
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: never in.

838
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: I got the whole shit and I badly be badly

839
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: be in there. And it's like, what did you do

840
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: that for?

841
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Mostly what you did it for your ego at that point,

842
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: so we operated ego a that as niggas you know

843
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like I'm gonna have it down there

844
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: just to be able to say yeah, that's my yeah

845
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: for sure. And you ain't been in that month at all,

846
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: cobwebs and shit in there. So for me, it was like, man,

847
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: that's a shame that I didne had this available to me,

848
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: and I know the process. I hadn't always been an

849
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: active person and athletic, you know what I mean, my

850
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: as a youngin but just applying myself and it's like, man,

851
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: I ain't even got to lead a house and you being.

852
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: And it still don't do it. That's how I be.

853
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: Like my son went in my gym literally yesterday. But

854
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: my son's football player, he ain't. I'm telling you, I

855
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: got him. I got him whooping something for me and

856
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: that strong you know, he went in there the other

857
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: day and grabbed them thirty fives and just started.

858
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: Working them jumps. I'm saying, am my little boy strong

859
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: in a month because I grabbed the thirty fives and

860
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: I can work them jumps. But you're a grown man.

861
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: But I'm a grown man and I'm watching my sixteen

862
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: year old boy work them junks in a way while

863
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, he curling them, and shit, I'm saying,

864
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: this little boy.

865
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Is really strong and so man like you say, it's

866
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: our ego.

867
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: But also for me, I got off a weed because

868
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: I started to learn like, oh, they don't fuck the

869
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: weed game. They spread shit down, they got turfs, it's

870
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: all kind of all types. And I'm saying, long, you

871
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: ain't get this fut of the there to wake up

872
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: one day on some weed he did somewhe eiva that

873
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: or you didne lost your mental capacity to be able

874
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: to engage in the salvisation functional, you know, because all

875
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: of that and shit that it made you forget where

876
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: you live. You know what I'm saying, you don't remember

877
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: what I hurt that now. And she's like, it works.

878
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: So I went cold turkey, bro, And I ain't never

879
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: really win cold turkey unless I was in jail or something,

880
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: and I, you know, have a choice exactly. So Bro,

881
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: I started sweating in my sleep and shit, and I'm like, oh,

882
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: this is serial. But I noticed that I'm not because

883
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: see the weed thing, it became a habit. I wasn't

884
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: even really enjoying weed anymore. It just was a habit

885
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: that I had developed, Like when I was younger. Weed

886
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: was a thing that you actually got high.

887
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now it's like you're just doing this smoking. Yeah.

888
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: So when I was shit, yeah, I smoked the shit

889
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this, ain't doing nothing no more. And

890
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: it makes me sluggish it and make me just be

891
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: sitting around just on something and then I go eat something.

892
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: It's just a whole bunch of bad compounded bad decisions

893
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: like eating and wasting time and sitting there doing nothing

894
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: and staring off in the space.

895
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 2: And I said, yo, you gotta let that shit go, man.

896
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: And when I let it go the first day, I

897
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: sweated a couple of weeks seeing I'm.

898
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm oh, I ain't tired. I'm oh shit,

899
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: my mind is.

900
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: Firing even a little bit more like because you can

901
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: tell when your mind is drained or it's like not

902
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: operating at a high level. Like for me, it's very

903
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: important that my cognitive abilities are firing it. You know

904
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's so important for me. And I

905
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: could actually feel the difference off of weed. But in

906
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: the same way, you know, that was a fight for

907
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: me to be like, Yo, there ain't no way you're

908
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: finna let weed take you while. And it's like you

909
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: know your habits and your habits, and I ain't you know,

910
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: I ain't want to appreciate nobody about shit, Like do

911
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: what you do, but just make sure that it's in

912
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: moderation to where it doesn't prevent you from doing what

913
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: you have to do. All you want to do and

914
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: doing what you have to do it two different things.

915
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: You do what you have to do to be able

916
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: to do what you want to do. Once doing what

917
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: you want to do effects doing what you have to do,

918
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: then you got to change what you want to do.

919
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean.

920
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: Usually we allow it to get past that point before

921
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: we make the decision, you know what I'm saying. And

922
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: for me like finding out you know about the high

923
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: blood pressure, just going into my own research. It's just like, man,

924
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: this ship killed way more niggas than bullets, but were

925
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: so focused on motherfucker reef with a pistol and the

926
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: beef that you don't even know, nigga that them motherfucking

927
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: chicken wings is taking.

928
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: About the wrong beef. You worried about the wrong weear

929
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: your ass out.

930
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: And you know, for me being an example, like I

931
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: understand my position and that's what my the braids and

932
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: all that ship has always been about. I've been blessed

933
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: to not give a fuck what people think about me.

934
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: So if I can be a vessel to let people

935
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: see the difference, you know what I mean, because you

936
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: can see the difference, like you when you see me.

937
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: You see like, oh, what you've been doing?

938
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: Like you?

939
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: What the trip part about it is? You wasn't big?

940
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but the thing is I was though,

941
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: because it was all here, It was all that visceral

942
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: ship on your stomach, you know.

943
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: I mean if you sit down and.

944
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know what I'm saying

945
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: front than of your drawings fold down and don't say

946
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Calvin Glen.

947
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: Know that's about this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,

948
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: that's different ship.

949
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: So for me, it was like man, just getting to

950
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: a point of being able to say that, you know,

951
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: it was a challenge for me. I'm always big on

952
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: a challenge, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,

953
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: if I challenge myself to do anything, But it's a

954
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: difference between challenge and dedication. You could challenge yourself to

955
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: do whatever, but what are you dedicated to?

956
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: Like I say all the.

957
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: Time, comedy was the first thing that I ever fully

958
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: dedicated myself to because I haven't always been blessed to

959
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: be good at whatever. So I just did enough to

960
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: show better than you and now I could just coast.

961
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: But Nah, this ship is something you got to dedicate

962
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: yoursel every day.

963
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: How do you do you do it in the mornings?

964
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: Do you do it whenever? I feel like See, that's

965
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: the thing, that's what I don't.

966
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad that I've been And that's why

967
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: I say the benefit is in me a cost and

968
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: the life that I've been able to build for myself

969
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: is that I get to do what I want to do.

970
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: That's the blessing, you know what I mean. I get

971
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: to wake up every day whenever you want to do

972
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: whatever whatever I want you. So that's that's the biggest blessing.

973
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: So it's really no excuse for you not to find

974
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: the time to do what you need to do because

975
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: you get to do whatever you.

976
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: Want to do.

977
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: Bro, And I beg, I beg, God be disappointed in that,

978
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: Like Bro, whoever the universe, whoever? I bet it's like, Bro,

979
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: you you don't even got nothing else to do?

980
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: Bullshit?

981
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, why you ain't just going to get that minute

982
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: saying and that's it, man, you know what I mean?

983
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: And we and we find so much confident bullshit. And

984
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: for me, like I always know that I'm bullshitting, but

985
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: I make excuses for my bullshit in the times when

986
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: i'm you know, evaluate myself.

987
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: Oh it's all right.

988
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: I'd be all right the same way I did when

989
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: they when first told me about the hot blood pressure.

990
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, I I'd be all right, you

991
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that black man came in there,

992
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: oh the black man and said, a hey man, you

993
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be all right. You keep on my nigga

994
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna be weighing one Jordan, it's crazy, keep bullsh how long?

995
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: How long have so? That was this year January? That

996
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: was this James.

997
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: So you don't put thirty points thirty You done took

998
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: thirty points off the board that quick.

999
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: It wasn't quick like. That's the thing.

1000
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: Is January, the June, the June like. But that's the thing.

1001
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't quick. It was every day. So you don't

1002
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: count like you know, the treadmill make you realize how

1003
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: much time a minute is.

1004
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: You ain't got to tell me.

1005
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: Boy, when I say what I like to do is

1006
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: because I do get on that sometimes because I need

1007
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: I be like, Yo, you done got money, bro, Your

1008
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: heart rate don't even go up no more like you bull.

1009
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: So I'll get on there and try to give me

1010
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: a run and just to speed mond, I need this shit,

1011
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: raise this ship up, and man, I get on there,

1012
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: nigga and try to run a minute. You know, mother,

1013
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: It's the dynamic of time. That's why I said it

1014
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a short period of time, because when you're doing

1015
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: that shit every day in minutes, you come minutes.

1016
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: Now, you know what I'm saying.

1017
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: So for me, it was like, man, I gotta I

1018
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: gotta make the transition to understand that. Man, it's a

1019
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: it's an everyday thing. But once I results get anybody,

1020
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: make you know what I'm saying. It's just like you

1021
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, when you get your little piece

1022
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: of money for the first time and you see what

1023
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: that motherfucker money do across.

1024
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: The board to make you want to get some more

1025
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: of it.

1026
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: So when I you know what I mean, was able

1027
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: to say, Man, I ain't had a migraine in a

1028
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: week and a half.

1029
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: I like this. Let me keep on doing ambitious the

1030
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: lights off that your line of work, not knowing when

1031
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: it a hit or nine.

1032
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: And you don't know how many times I have been

1033
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: on stage, ship throbbing, having to make people laugh for

1034
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm talking about boom. As soon as I

1035
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: get off stage, I'm like, ah, give me some, give

1036
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: me some, et cetera.

1037
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: That strength. They didn't used to work though, did it?

1038
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: Or did Yeah? It did?

1039
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Stomach up right now, your stomach fucked up, in your

1040
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: nauseous and ship.

1041
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: You get rid of one thing, now you got to

1042
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: do else.

1043
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: All of that, Yeah, all of that and then going

1044
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: to the vitamin lady and getting that understanding of what's

1045
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: good for you and doing the necessary things and making

1046
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: sure just what you're putting in your body. Man has

1047
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: helped me tremendously because I'm still going you know what

1048
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's still you know, I'm still not where

1049
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: I want to be because I need to make sure

1050
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: that I'm able to maintain it beyond just what I

1051
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: eat and working out. I need to be able to

1052
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: maintain it on the day to day, like being able

1053
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: to look at something that's available to me and being

1054
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: able to say no. You know what I'm saying. That's

1055
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: why I ain't changed my rider in my green room.

1056
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: It ain't changed put all that shit in it because

1057
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: I want to look at it and not choose.

1058
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1059
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: I want to look at That's just how my mind works.

1060
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: I want to be able to see that I ain't

1061
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: picking up them. God, that told, that's the real that's

1062
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: the real control. That's how you know I have control

1063
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: over this. Anytime you had it to duck it is

1064
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: shit that ain't controlled. That's being evasive. And that's different

1065
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: than having control right if you if it's in front

1066
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: of you and you can say no, that's where you

1067
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: really have power over what used to have power over you.

1068
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: You know that?

1069
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: And that has helped me as well.

1070
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: And being able to just know that it's a day

1071
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: to day process, but understanding like I ain't even know

1072
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: what my blood type was before ours, and I don't know.

1073
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: That's why I'm gonna go see that later. Sure, when

1074
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: you go to Atlanta, Man, go to the vitamin lady. Man.

1075
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you she got man. She give a class

1076
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: every Saturday.

1077
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: She teach.

1078
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: She tell go through each blood type, tell you, what's good,

1079
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: what's bad for you, what you need to have, what

1080
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: you don't need to have.

1081
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: She been there for years.

1082
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: She got her husband has a restaurant that they do,

1083
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, all different types of food, like you know, turkey,

1084
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: whatever you need they got available for you there, juices

1085
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, vitamin B, vitamin and whatever your

1086
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: shit is deficient in. She gonna get you right and

1087
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, being able to do that and go to

1088
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: the conventional doctor and see what you don't want to

1089
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: be on and what you will be on if you

1090
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: don't follow some type of program, right, you're gonna be

1091
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: on three four.

1092
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: Pills a day.

1093
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and you and you better hope your in

1094
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: showance covering them because if you don't, nigga, you gotta

1095
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: pay for my pocket. That shit get expressed very expensive.

1096
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: That's a whole other game. The pharmaceutical game is like

1097
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: a whole nother beast. Their job is to keep you

1098
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: like they just like the dope board. I want the

1099
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: real yeah, like I say all the time, Man, get

1100
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: hooked on this. Yeah, the CVS the real real plug. Yeah.

1101
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking all that dumb ass ship. Nigga.

1102
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: Nah, nigga. They sell that drugs ain't illegal. Just the

1103
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: ones you see exactly. It could be the same ones

1104
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: we yeah, exactly, just.

1105
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: You selling. That's what makes the drugs illegal, your black.

1106
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: That's the reality. Crazy. Drugs ain't illegal, nigga. You get

1107
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: that prescription, you can.

1108
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: Go in there and get all that ship you going

1109
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: to jail for. That's the way the game works. You

1110
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: know what was crazy is the Ditty trial.

1111
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: Right.

1112
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: I was looking at the Ditty trial and I'm seeing

1113
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: where he had doctors really writing him prescriptions out in

1114
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: a name of Frank Black at the pharmacy. So I'm saying, okay,

1115
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: they have no real stronghold on even the pharmaceutical company

1116
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: because he Frank Black is not a person.

1117
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: It does not have.

1118
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: An ID, and if it does have an ID, it's

1119
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: a fake ID, so it leads back to nothing. So

1120
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: he's literally going in getting a hundred oxy code on

1121
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: and one hundred zat necks and shit with a Frank

1122
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Black name on it. I said, Yo, they will prescribe

1123
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: this shit to anybody. There is real there's no real

1124
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: parameters on getting this shit.

1125
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: Bro.

1126
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: If a fake name with a fake address and a

1127
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: fake ID can go into pharmacy and get and I've

1128
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: had trouble getting shit from a pharmacy being myself.

1129
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: So I'm so confused that.

1130
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: Within Shawance many times I done want to get shipped

1131
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: and now you know in shawings don't cover it, man,

1132
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: they said no, And it's like, well what do I

1133
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: have in Shawn's for? You know what I'm saying. So

1134
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: it's just it's a it's a vicious game, man. And

1135
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: speaking of that, like watching that, I want to get

1136
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: your perspective on that.

1137
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: Man.

1138
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: It's very few people that I, you know, give a

1139
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: fuck what they think about that Diddy ship, But what's

1140
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: your perspective on it?

1141
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm watching it, bro. It's so it's it's it's layered.

1142
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: It's not you know, I don't have just one because

1143
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: it depends on what facet of it we're talking to.

1144
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: Me that Okay, I'll ask you this facet.

1145
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: What do you think if you had to give a

1146
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: synopsis of what you think is really going on? What

1147
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: do you think is really going on with that ship?

1148
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Do you think it's really justice and player? Do you

1149
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: think what I think? They try to embarrass that nigga

1150
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: to where even if he do beat the ship ain't

1151
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: nobody gonna want to stand.

1152
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: There to him.

1153
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: And also I'm thinking I think they won't. They want

1154
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: the assets as well. I think with the Rico charge

1155
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: because it wasn't a rico if you're asking me, man,

1156
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: But the Rico charge allows them to seize bad boy,

1157
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: seize the home, seize the privy jet right, kind of

1158
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: take some of his wealth from him. Without their Rico charge,

1159
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they would have the ability to

1160
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: seize his assets. But see, that's the thing with the

1161
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: embarrassment part of it, and and uh, you know the

1162
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: way that they are, you know, kind.

1163
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: Of degrading his character.

1164
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: You prevent him from ever being able to a costosa

1165
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: and gain those things back. Yes, so you take them

1166
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: and then you leave them butt nigga out there. Yeah yeah.

1167
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, man, I say this. I've been

1168
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: saying this for a very long time. Man, I can't

1169
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: name one nigga that left.

1170
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: With the money exactly exactly. And it's crazy.

1171
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: It's like you the statute of limitations on being a

1172
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: black man in America is never up. You never know,

1173
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: they can come snatch a shit any and it's like

1174
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: the same things, and it's crazy. When you look at it,

1175
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: because as a black man, we're demonized for the things

1176
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: the other man is celebrated for, like Hugh Hefner, perfect example,

1177
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: celebrated you know what I mean. You look at r

1178
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: Kelly Elvis got married to his wife she was fourteen

1179
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: in front of the world. Nobody ever brings that up. Crazy,

1180
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: So what is it about us that makes the necessity

1181
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: to be able to humble? As you look at what

1182
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: they said about the you know, shr door, it is humbling.

1183
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: Why we gotta be right? Why can't we have any pride?

1184
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: Why can't we have it? And it's almost like the

1185
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,959
Speaker 1: still the slave master mentality, it's still the slave boy.

1186
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: You don't you can't do that, like you can't do

1187
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: you do what we say, not what we do, even

1188
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: if we're doing it. We're partying on this island over

1189
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: here with all these people, and it just go hush.

1190
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: But did he like he you know, we're gonna put

1191
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: his bring his to the front line before we even

1192
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,959
Speaker 1: hear about Weyinstein shit, yea, nobody in for bro shit.

1193
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: People are still Jeffery Epstein.

1194
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we've still been waiting on Epstein's listen, and

1195
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: we done heard didn't like the jets come on his nipples, nigga,

1196
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: Like that was not like that.

1197
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, yeah, I know them.

1198
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: Niggas in jail like sending that nigga. Yeah, this is

1199
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: the most terrifying nigga. Come on, Slim, I wonder how

1200
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: you dealing with that in the back there. I mean,

1201
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I would assume that, you know,

1202
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: you got to be mentally strong to be able to

1203
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: be you know, have your ship put on front street

1204
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: like that. But at the same time, like you said,

1205
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: if you look at just legally with the terminology like

1206
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: that's the thing about the legal system, man, it's all

1207
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: in that all of them words. We said this the

1208
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: last time you think you speak English, you go to

1209
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: court exactly words and the cumbassing on. I know that

1210
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I think

1211
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: that you know, having the ability to fight, you know

1212
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and going up against that mom. You

1213
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: know when it says it's one thing the state of

1214
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: whatever versus, but the United States of America versus is

1215
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: something completely different. For sure, you know what I'm saying.

1216
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: So and you see that and it's like whoa man

1217
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: And then I'm wondering, like some of the testimony against

1218
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: Diddy has been confusing to me. One of the questions

1219
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: I had, especially when Cassie was testifying. And of course

1220
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: we don't write, we don't shame victims, but I think

1221
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: there's a conversation to be had about when am I

1222
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: manipulating a woman or she's lying about what she's into.

1223
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 2: Right, It's like.

1224
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: A thin line betraying thin line between because to get

1225
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: next to me, you will go to land about what

1226
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: you're into. I might say, Yo, I like threesomes. I'm

1227
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: just a threesome kind of neal and you'd be like, well, one,

1228
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: I want to fuck with you, like I'm with that, yeah,

1229
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: and then at any point you can turn it off,

1230
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: like that's the thing that you know. It's crazy how

1231
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: the rules are set up because you think about, you know,

1232
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: pregnancy or having a child. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1233
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: I have no sympathy or remorse for a nigga that

1234
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: don't take care of their babies. But at the same time,

1235
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: I can understand why you frustrated if you said you

1236
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to have to deal with that responsibility and

1237
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: somebody else made the choice like Anthony Elwood to make yeah,

1238
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: to make you a father when you said you didn't

1239
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: want to. Now you still took the risk of going

1240
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: up in there, nigga. You should have took the you

1241
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: should have got the inshowance as I always say. But

1242
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know what I mean, It's

1243
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: it's crazy how the rules work because if you go

1244
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: donate sperm to a sperm bank, you can give as

1245
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: much as you want and they never can come to

1246
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: exactly and you technically it's the same.

1247
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So it's all and

1248
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: the rules. It's very interesting.

1249
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: That's a very interesting point, because that's a very fucking

1250
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: interesting point, bro that that that how the sperm bank

1251
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: is set up versus how a nigga has put these

1252
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: stipulations on a sexual encounter, like yo, I don't want

1253
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: the kids, sweetie, and she actually still pulls the trigger

1254
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: on Well, it happened, and I'm keeping it. And most

1255
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: times that only is coupled with someone's financially stable. It's

1256
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: never it's not a lot of times where it's coupled

1257
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: with someone that's struggling. It's like it'll be a ball

1258
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: player or something like Yo, we're gonna have fun. Tonight's

1259
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna take a plan B. I don't even play those games.

1260
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't.

1261
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why, dudes, especially in this climbing with

1262
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: the ditties, the Shannon Sharps, all of this shit that's happening.

1263
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't play this freak azoid game that niggas is playing.

1264
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: And it sucks because I like the freak I like.

1265
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's the thing. It's like, ain't no

1266
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: law against being a freaky ass nigga, but it is

1267
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: laws against being able to, you know, impose you know

1268
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, your will upon somebody who is unwilling.

1269
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is like, as.

1270
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Men will never have the luxury of being the victim

1271
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: in any sech fucked up, you know what I'm saying.

1272
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: That's why I always preach, man, don't be a real

1273
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: nigga everywhere but in the house. Niggas love to be

1274
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: a real nigga everywhere, but in front of who you

1275
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be a real nigga in front of her first,

1276
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: because you got to establish who you are and what

1277
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 1: you are and say this is what it is. There

1278
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: are no parameters that I'm not willing to express before

1279
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: you know me, before you got any invested interest in

1280
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: who I am as your person. This is who I

1281
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: am as a person, right, So this is what it

1282
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: is now. Mind you, you can be tricked in a

1283
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: mother but I'm with all that exactly. And then once

1284
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: you start to shift in what she thought you was

1285
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna be now is well, I didn't say I was

1286
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: in the all.

1287
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1288
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: So that's a risk that you take, But you limit

1289
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: the risks once you established that early. Because anybody who

1290
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: has an alterior motive, in my opinion at least that

1291
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: has an alterior motive in regard to you, if you

1292
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: lead with all the shit that make a motherfuckering embarrassed

1293
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: to be able to say publicly that they fuck with you. Yeah,

1294
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: if you leading with all that like, look, I'm never

1295
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna do this, this, that, and the third, I don't

1296
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: give a fuck what you say. This is not gonna happen.

1297
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: If this is what you're looking for, don't come over here.

1298
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna remind you every chance. I even think

1299
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: you don't remember that I said. Right, it's gonna be

1300
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: like you know what, this ain't even worth the happiness

1301
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: that I might get from this ain't gonna be worth

1302
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: the detriment that I got to continuously hear that this

1303
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: nigga don't never want to be my boyfriend. Yeah, And

1304
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, and so also thinking with Diddy, I think

1305
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: Diddy was because you know, it's almost like there's a

1306
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: shared blame because Cassie should have seen by his actions

1307
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: that this nigga ain't he ain't pulling the trigger on

1308
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: really being with me. We just freaking, freaking, freaking freaking

1309
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: and when he started inviting other people in and there's

1310
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: certain things he's doing. You know, for me, I trust

1311
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: actions more than I trust words. I've been raised that way,

1312
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for him and her,

1313
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: I guess he did kind of manipulate and confuse it

1314
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: because he's telling us that.

1315
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: Which is easy to do. It's like the way I

1316
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: look at it is like.

1317
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: Everybody having a good time to the bill come right,

1318
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: that bill got to be paid. Though we in the

1319
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: club and you ordering two, three, four bottles or whatever,

1320
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: and all that's cool when it's but when that bill come,

1321
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 1: everybody start to Yeah, they getting out of here, looking

1322
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: around and all that but somebody gonna have to pay

1323
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: that bill. And usually if you the one, you the

1324
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: one that's gonna have to pay that bill, and everybody

1325
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: around you who got to have all the fun and

1326
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: do all that shit when you look around, and that's

1327
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: what dude going through right now, that's what he's dealing with.

1328
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1329
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: You accounted for the fact that man, this bill coming

1330
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: at some point, I'm gonna have to pay this bill.

1331
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: And for me, like you said, you never victim blamed.

1332
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I take from the situation,

1333
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: especially as a father of a little girl, because that's

1334
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: what people always add when whenever I'm asked about it,

1335
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: like if it was your daughter or if it was

1336
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: That's one of the problems with our women, specifically niggas

1337
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: know who ain't got nobody coming behind them. A nigga

1338
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna know, yesnaverybody you're not gonna play whatever.

1339
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1340
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's some women out here that you know you

1341
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: got to respect because it's some shit that's gonna come

1342
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: behind them.

1343
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: That's a whole fact. It is a whole human.

1344
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: Don't have somebody that's coming behind you, then you allow

1345
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: yourself to be put in a situation.

1346
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: Where you can be manipulated.

1347
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: Because as a man, as a father, it's my job

1348
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: to teach my daughter what manipulation is and what it

1349
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: looks like. See, I don't want I put my daughter

1350
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: on a pedestal so she don't ever have to look

1351
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: for no man. But in doing so, I also have

1352
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: dialogue with her about the real situations that I go through,

1353
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: that me and her mama go through, that whatever she sees,

1354
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: we talk about these things because when she gets to

1355
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: become a woman and she goes out into the world

1356
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: and starts to operate on her own, because that after

1357
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: a certain point, I gotta let you go through that

1358
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to I just want to be the

1359
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: person that she comes to to say he dad, Like, man,

1360
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: what you thinking?

1361
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: But this man told me this? But see what this

1362
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: man told me?

1363
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: That me being able to give her the advice of

1364
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: understanding that, hey, you're only responsible up until a certain point, baby,

1365
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: because after a certain point, I'm coming. I'm coming, and

1366
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be nothing you can say. You can

1367
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: get the screaming and do nothing to him. I please,

1368
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: I Love, It's too late, So you need to be

1369
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: able to navigate up until that point, because after that

1370
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: point there's nothing, you know what I'm saying. But so

1371
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: even with even with Cassie, I just I think so

1372
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: it's like I couldn't imagine being her father. It's like,

1373
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: how does she come to her father with Hey, look

1374
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: they did it, but this is what's going on, Like

1375
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: he won't marry me, but we freak off. I mean,

1376
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: these are things you die with, son, people peeing in

1377
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: your mouth and shit.

1378
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the thing, Like, can.

1379
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: You create an environment where she can come to, you

1380
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: can come to that's what you're into, deep if that's

1381
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: what you're into, because you gotta be able to know

1382
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: a better human being than me. Because I know that

1383
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: if I had the access that she has at this age, man.

1384
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be doing moll yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1385
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: So whatever she gets into or decides to get into,

1386
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: I can't allow myself to be you did what, Get

1387
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here?

1388
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1389
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: Because I have to let you know that no matter what,

1390
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 1: as long as you're not willingly hurting yourself and nobody else,

1391
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: that's what I got to make sure you.

1392
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: And that's strong.

1393
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: That's a strong message. Brou And I think this is

1394
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: important that we talk about because we ego is so bruised. Yeah,

1395
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: and we will. We can kind of take accountability for

1396
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: things that we didn't even do. Meaning if I did

1397
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: have a son or a daughter who win and got

1398
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: into some freakazoid shit, you can start to blame yourself,

1399
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: like what does I'll never blame myself in that regard

1400
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: because you've grown and once you start to make the

1401
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: decisions that you make. I say this all the time,

1402
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: everybody's somebody's daughter. Think about some of the shit you did,

1403
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, everybody's somebody baby. So

1404
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: for me, it's like I can't exclude my daughter from

1405
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: real life.

1406
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: But if you.

1407
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: Feel this, though, do you feel as though your teaching

1408
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: should have kept her out of those caves?

1409
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean, but that's the thing.

1410
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: I feel like my teaching should keep her from being

1411
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: able to be walked into a cave outside of her

1412
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: will If you, if you kid, you are willingly, if

1413
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: you willingly want to go in there and that's what

1414
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: you want to do, Hey, are you safe? Take care

1415
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: of yourself. Don't come out with nothing you can't get

1416
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: rid of. Personal protocol. I teach personal protocol with my daughter.

1417
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: These are the things that you need to look out for.

1418
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: These are the questions that you need to ask. One

1419
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: of the first things that I taught her is one

1420
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: of the problems that I see women have. And this

1421
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: is coming from a man who deals with women on

1422
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: all different types of levels. Y'all ask the wrong questions

1423
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: and say that you're looking for answers that those questions

1424
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: don't breed. You're not gonna be able to ask exactly.

1425
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: You don't have to know what you want. In my opinion,

1426
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: all you gotta know is what you don't want. What

1427
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: you want is gonna change. More important, what you want

1428
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: is gonna change. That's gonna fluctuate. You're gonna like some

1429
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: shit today and and you're not gonna like it tomob

1430
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: But as long as you're establishing what you don't want

1431
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: to deal with, that's what you operate off. So if

1432
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: you know that you don't want to deal with a liar,

1433
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with a cheetah, as most

1434
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: women say that they don't want to deal with, why

1435
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: aren't you asking the questions that will let you know,

1436
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: because you obviously have dealt with it before. To know

1437
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: you don't want it, So why aren't you dealing with

1438
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: the man in the regards to the way that you

1439
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: know you can ask these questions that will let you

1440
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: know if you're dealing with a nigga is gonna like So,

1441
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: but it looks like Cassie was in a situation. And

1442
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: I get this from what something that was read in court.

1443
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: So it was read in court that one of Cassie's

1444
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: friends asked her why don't you leave Diddy? And her

1445
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: response to that was jay Z is tooking who else?

1446
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: I'm a date? So I say that to say and

1447
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: repping what you're saying is it feels like Cassie knew

1448
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: what she want, what she didn't want, what she didn't

1449
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: which was I don't want a broken nigga.

1450
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, wicked and that can lead you into some caves.

1451
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, dad, because ultimate power, power corrupts and that's the

1452
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: thing that comes with celebrity, and you talking about a billionaire.

1453
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: That what I'm saying, So how do you even leave?

1454
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying, Let's roll play this. If

1455
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: this is your daughter, someone you care about, who comes

1456
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: in that situation with with Diddy, and because like like

1457
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: you said at some point, I'm coming like you chasing

1458
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: your leading on you just yeah, I'm watch this nigga

1459
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: kill your Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's what you're gonna deal with.

1460
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,440
Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to watch this ultimate power for motherfucker.

1461
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: These six security God, they're gonna have to You gonna

1462
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: watch him beat your daddy to death after I shoot

1463
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: this nigga every time for sure, because that's just what's

1464
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to happen. And you gotta you have to

1465
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: do that through actions, I can say, but the showing

1466
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: up is you gotta constantly show up to where they

1467
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: believe that, right, So you can niggas say I'm coming,

1468
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: but you ain't never see think about this. Diddy was

1469
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: so gone on and this is what I'm saying. He

1470
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: clearly was on drugs. He was on drugs. He was

1471
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: fucked off for being now to reach out to that

1472
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: woman's mother and say give me twenty five grand because

1473
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: y'all are she's fucking with kids cutting now. So you you,

1474
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: as a billionaires extorting a poor I'm I want to

1475
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: say poor but financially unstable family for money. But here's

1476
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: the thing, how much of this shit do we know

1477
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: is actually exactly you true, that's well, I don't know, dolls.

1478
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: She got up there and she showed that I took

1479
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: out twenty five thousand.

1480
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: I me and it came that's what I'm saying.

1481
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: But all of those things, it's like, it's that's the

1482
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: end result, you know what I'm saying, And I ain't defending.

1483
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: Now we haven't donalog but at the same time, we

1484
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: don't know what the day to day was to where

1485
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: what they had going on, Like innocense is something that's

1486
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: taken for granted and especially in court right because it's

1487
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: what you're fighting for to prove. So the prosecutions job

1488
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: is to prove that you're not. Your job is to

1489
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: prove that you are, so that that money's the waters

1490
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: in the process of getting up to that end result,

1491
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, So you think about a relationship, being

1492
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: in a relationship, the shit that you you know, that

1493
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: pillow talking and all of the things that go on

1494
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: in a relationship, and the the day to day and

1495
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: the power that she probably was able to benefit from from,

1496
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 1: like being the power that he had and being able

1497
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: to manipulate whatever you want to mapulate, and just how

1498
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: that corrupts.

1499
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: Anybody that's going to corrupt.

1500
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: Anyone five years that anybody. And so when you think

1501
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: about that ultimate level of corruption that's going to bleed

1502
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: into everything and everybody around you, especially if you don't

1503
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: have nobody around you that can tell you about yoursela.

1504
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 1: That's why I value people. I don't want you. I

1505
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: don't want nobody around me. They can't tell me, hey,

1506
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: nigga is wrong with you? You tripping? Because once you eliminate

1507
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: that and remove those people, everything you into the you

1508
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying now, It is just like, man,

1509
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want to do, and then

1510
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: when that bill come and you look around, it's like, fuck,

1511
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm stuck with the bill.

1512
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1513
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: So's It's just one of those situations where I look

1514
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: at it, it's like, man, you got to be able

1515
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: to have self control, no matter what you got going on.

1516
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: This is a result of not having self in Drugs

1517
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: to drugs is a big party.

1518
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but see it.

1519
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: So, but I'm still focused on Cassie knowing what she

1520
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: doesn't want, which is I want a rich man. Yeah,

1521
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: and they ain't before these can like the Diddy khn ain't.

1522
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's three three niggas.

1523
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: This Yeah, doctor dre jay Z did it and now

1524
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: me niggas. You know what I mean, yler pers, you

1525
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it's like, but it's like

1526
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't no lot of niggas. And I

1527
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: think she had got so gun hole on. Where do

1528
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: I go from this?

1529
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1530
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, you know, getting thirty million goodness

1531
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, goodness Like, what's you know?

1532
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: It's running off in my crane? Man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1533
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean that, not even that, that's I don't even

1534
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: get that.

1535
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: But that'll make a man who thinks he has that

1536
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: level of power control all of this, that that bill thing.

1537
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: But I just look at it like, you know what

1538
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you think about physical abuty like men that

1539
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: are physically abusive the woman or what we sold on

1540
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: that tape in that hallway and ship And like I

1541
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: said for me as a father, like I don't give

1542
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: a fuck who you is, nigga, you want to do

1543
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: it to me? Exactly how much is that ass whooping work?

1544
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1545
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: Not thirty you know what I'm saying to me? I mean,

1546
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing you don't get to establish that.

1547
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: You don't get to establish that. We don't get to

1548
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: establish that. Once it's done, then ecosystem, you don't. You

1549
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 1: don't get to established that. Like so when you playing

1550
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: them type of games and that type of power to

1551
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: where now you get twenty from him and ten from

1552
01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: the hotel.

1553
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: It's like.

1554
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: The women who are suffering from domestic violence on a

1555
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: day to day basis from a nigga who don't even

1556
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: love itself, let alone love you, It's like I can

1557
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: understand why they can feel like, man, this is unfair

1558
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: to us because it looks like there's a price that

1559
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: can be put on my debtrim.

1560
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I'm saying.

1561
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: It looks like there's something that somebody can pay in

1562
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: exchange for getting knocked upside the motherfucker head every day.

1563
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: And that's bullshit you ask me. It's not something that

1564
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I look at it's like

1565
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: they that's the aspect that most people aren't looking at them. Man,

1566
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: these women are going through this shit every day and

1567
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: they ain't got no nothing but another lump upside to

1568
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: heat and trauma and dealing with it. And it's like

1569
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: to put a price on It is the part that

1570
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: bothers me when Motherfucker's is suing civilly instead of criminally, Like,

1571
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: if somebody is criminally doing something to you or harming

1572
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: you in some type of way, what how much that costs?

1573
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: If that's the situation, And I think it's like, yeah, yeah,

1574
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: that is an unfair advantage that you have when you

1575
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: deal with some of these rich men. Is that yo

1576
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: you can get You could put a price tag on

1577
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 1: your pain or your disappointment and then turn your relationship

1578
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: into pain. Say that it was more painful, or say

1579
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: that the experience was more detrimental than it truly.

1580
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: Was, because she played a role in it.

1581
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: If you asked me, Cassie was supposed to be a

1582
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,520
Speaker 1: co conspirator because when we talk about who paid the prostitutes,

1583
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: it was always Cassie who booked the prostitutes. It was

1584
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: always Cassie, right it did. He knew better than to

1585
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: put hisself on that side of the business, so he

1586
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: never really exchanged money or was involved in the booking process,

1587
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: but he always made orders. They said that he was

1588
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: in a situation of where he wouldn't even give her

1589
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: orders in front of people unless they got extremely comfortable.

1590
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 2: There was an underst standing there.

1591
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: If we're here freaking and I get up and just

1592
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: walk out, it's over with.

1593
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: Your job is to get up and come holler. I

1594
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: got to holler at you about something, Yeah, you know so.

1595
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: But he would always remove itself from anyone that can say, yeah,

1596
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: did he pay me?

1597
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: You know, did he did this and that and so?

1598
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 2: Is that illegal?

1599
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: Though, that's what I'm saying. I don't think freaking is illegal.

1600
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: That's not illegal. Like you know what I'm saying. Sex

1601
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: trafficking is illegal, you know what I'm saying, and then

1602
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: that's a broad broad pay Domestic violence is illegal, but

1603
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: that's not what he getting chopped with, you know what

1604
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like it's a slippery slope. But

1605
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: watching it for me, you know, being an eighties baby

1606
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: that grew up in the nineties, it's just crazy to

1607
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: see how the people that we looked at as heroes

1608
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: are being exposed in a way that we couldn't have

1609
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: imagined when we was didty like calm on this nipple

1610
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: like that is unreal. I'm telling I wouldn't even never

1611
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 1: ever in mind, bro, it's not rubbing my come on

1612
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: my never like we have to be like you, I'm

1613
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: taking you got to get the fuck out like.

1614
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: What you're doing. You know what I'm saying. It was

1615
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 2: like that.

1616
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: That's that's he was gonna be too far, Yeah to be,

1617
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: but to be exposed in that way it makes it

1618
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: to where everything that you've ever done has been I'm

1619
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: talking about. This was a giant, the one of the

1620
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: biggest in the world, not just in our culture, in

1621
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: culture periods, because that's our greatest export is Black Americans

1622
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: is our culture, you know what I'm saying. So this

1623
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: is the giant. This is one of the ones that

1624
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: has helped establish the culture, conquered three or four industries,

1625
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: and in six months of a trial, niggas ain't gonna

1626
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: remember none of that. You can't now, I don't give

1627
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 1: a fuck how much you like all about the Benjamin,

1628
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to listen to it without thinking, Man,

1629
01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: that nigga Rubb.

1630
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 2: Can believe this ship.

1631
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: But my question is why is Daddy coming out in court,

1632
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: Like what does it have to do with the case

1633
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,440
Speaker 1: or with the like. That's why I think the embarrassment

1634
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: thing is at play, because what does that particular move

1635
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: have to do with sex trafficking or rico. Let me

1636
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: ask you a conspiracy theorist question, right, because I'm I'm

1637
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm a big conspiracy theorist. It's always interesting to me,

1638
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: Like if they presented you, if the they that they

1639
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: talk about presented you a deal, right, you get to

1640
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: have a diddy run.

1641
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: But this is the this is the bill.

1642
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: One day we're gonna expose all of the freaky shit

1643
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: you ever did, and it's gonna be in front of

1644
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: the world. You're taking that deal. I might take the deal,

1645
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, I might take that bill. Bill Cosby had

1646
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: to his ship, but they locked him up as some

1647
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: ship he did in the sixties.

1648
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know he had.

1649
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: A fifty sixty almost a six months one and then

1650
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: it just you go to j Like, okay, you get

1651
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: the ball for the money, come all that go five years,

1652
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 1: but you give your nigga you go to jail for

1653
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: for for the last three.

1654
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I might take that deal, man, they might take.

1655
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: I respect you for being really said, because that's one

1656
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: of my problems that I got with niggas. Now is

1657
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,480
Speaker 1: now everybody acting like they to the party.

1658
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: Twenty stop bullshit.

1659
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like come on, all of a sudden, Man, I

1660
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: went to the party, but I didn't go to the party.

1661
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: Which one was that? Right? Yeah?

1662
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: And so for me, you know me, I'm always keep

1663
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: it a hundred. I don't care nothing about it. And

1664
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: so of course I don't condone what happened. But if

1665
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: you're telling me that I get a thirty year run

1666
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: private jit like Rick Flair, Privy flying Bro's wearing, I'm

1667
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: talking about all of it, come on, man, like, you know,

1668
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: at the end, they just tell you everything you do

1669
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: in that time gonna come on out.

1670
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: So just be careful what you do now.

1671
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,839
Speaker 1: It's on you if you start taking drugs and freaking

1672
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: off and all of that. But like the thing is,

1673
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: man like, I you know, like I said, that's just

1674
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist.

1675
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: But would you take it though? What would you do?

1676
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: I need I need to Bill cod. You need sixty

1677
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: I need sixty, Yeah,