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Speaker 2: See, I'm a five star bitch because I ain't that

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Speaker 2: other bitch she be struggling it for her from the womb.

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Speaker 2: I been rich. I ain't gotta talk about the money

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Speaker 2: in the shoot game. All I gotta. All you gotta

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Speaker 2: ain't none of these holes doing shows another session. They

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Speaker 2: cars get declined now, they suffering that depression while I'm

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Speaker 2: spending meals, signing all kinds of deal. I'm a five

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Speaker 2: coming to America. All my littleis lugget see my bag

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Speaker 2: carry her walking through the airport like I'm in the

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Speaker 2: parade on my hollow ground logging on the e trade. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the Black House to this podcast. Y'alls ride, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm a five star bitch.

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Speaker 2: Karen, that's right, We are back in the house on

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Speaker 2: a Saturday, ready for your feedback. Oh my going just beautiful.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Roger saying that, Oh goddamn, we know everyone.

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Speaker 4: And the press time of ship scared me to death

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every time Karen's getting ready to go to work

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Speaker 3: I got clear, It's just beautiful.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, this has been an interesting week. We got

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Speaker 2: the show, left us five star reviews on iTunes and Stitcher.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate everybody takes the time out to do those

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Speaker 2: pretty much suck. It just be me and caring in

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Speaker 2: So like, we need y'all to continue to spread the word.

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Speaker 2: And you know, five star reviews help that, you know,

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Speaker 2: leaving comments let us know, you know what you think

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Speaker 2: about the things that we're saying. You know, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of different ways and different avenues to contact us,

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Speaker 2: emailing us, the blackoutis at gmail dot com. So it's

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Speaker 2: to the people who we have an Amazon wish list.

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Speaker 2: Five stars Rider Karen bring much needed levity to many

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Speaker 2: as far as the male sex workers go, it doesn't

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00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: surprise me the Republicans are some of the biggest hypocrites oh,

428
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: and by the way, I'll take mouth any day, y'all.

429
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm by So it's equal opportunity over here. Ah, hey,

430
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: don't I hear you. You know what's funny is like

431
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: the ability to disassociate because like they had a lot

432
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: of rhetoric that said, we're gonna start accept the LGBT

433
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: people over here, you know. I that one guy gets up,

434
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not a gay person. First, I'm not this.

435
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm not a Republican, I'm an American. And it's like, yeah,

436
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: but policy wise, what look at the horrible things your

437
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: people are spreading, Like why are you're gonna have to

438
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: call them to task for that?

439
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: You know?

440
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like as fucked up as the Democratic Party

441
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: is there when there's been protests, there's been dissent, dissent

442
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: people will have pushed Obama, people have pushed Hillary Clinton

443
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: and other people in the Democratic Party towards marriage equality

444
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: and towards like they pushed them. Because there's always been

445
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: this descent. It seems like this descent on the right

446
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: is just silenced. Yeah, like it's just nothing to it,

447
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, that's that's it. You know, you

448
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: you do that and you know you you bring us

449
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: up and now so and now so, and now it's

450
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: a problem. You're bad, Like like why you gotta be

451
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: bringing up other shit, don't you know we talking about this,

452
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 2: we talking about these other laws. And he here you

453
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: go bringing up this gay ship like.

454
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: It's all this effect me and y'all passing rules against

455
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: my will being and that gets me as a human being.

456
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: It's honestly, like they think every person over there is

457
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 2: just a straight white man and that's it, right, and

458
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: nobody else exists, exists, and yeah, and if you do vote,

459
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: you should be voting for straight white male people.

460
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: Even if you're not, that's what you need to be

461
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: voting for.

462
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: And says I'm so old, i had to look up

463
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: what case of mouth meant the blackout tips keeping us young. Anyway,

464
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing how the sudden except as

465
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: an LGBTQ P but the convention plays out and the

466
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: rest of the country. Yeah, you know that's the other

467
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: part about lip service. The people that are biggest and

468
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: that vote for Trump, that support people like Pat McCrory,

469
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: and shit, they don't care. They honestly just go yes,

470
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: lip service. He'll say anything and that's why we like him.

471
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: Like he's not gonna actually change anything. The discrimination will continue,

472
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I feel perfectly fine supporting him because

473
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: what I do know is if someone like Hillary Klinton

474
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: gets in, then then then then whatever the positive stuff

475
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: for LGBT people will continue, and we don't want or

476
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: or stay stagnant where it is, which is also kind

477
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 2: of bad, but but the point being, they don't want that.

478
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: They want it dialed back, you know, every executive order

479
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 2: that they want that shit gone. You know, I know

480
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: many people who claim socially conservative values as the main

481
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: reason they support the GLP. My guess is that they

482
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: will change that to him quickly. Anything for a win.

483
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: Is this golp's real model? I agree, Yeah, they'll say anything.

484
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: And then the poll was cakes and mouth, like which

485
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: one would you take? What's better? And cakes one fifty

486
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: eight percent to mouse forty two percent. So there you

487
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: got to have yams in there, so they, uh, they

488
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: did not. We did not have yams on the pole.

489
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't. I don't think yams was an

490
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: option that people could really uh get into.

491
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm old too, baby. Whoever whoever wrote that

492
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: letter because I had recently nerved, but Yams was through

493
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: Twitter because everybody to them Yams.

494
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: I was like, y'all, what are we talking about? We're

495
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: talking about sweeping to Yams Jams of what what food?

496
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: And did I realize it was something else? Yep? All right.

497
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: We had episode twelve fifty two, your facing, it's Cleo gone,

498
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: no comments, We got the pole. The poe was police

499
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: being killed in a line of duty. It's sad, don't

500
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: care and yay one picked Jay. So there's some people

501
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: like Coyle's killing good, don't care. Eight people don't care. Uh,

502
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: and ninety percent of people still feel like yo, it's

503
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: it's sad that when it happens. And I think that

504
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: came up because I like, everyone's so in odes, Like

505
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm watching you know, Facebook and Twitter, and people are

506
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: so adversarial with each other and all this stuff at

507
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: this point, and people are so passionate about what they believe,

508
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: and I really think white supremacy and all this shit

509
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: just kind of fucks with everybody, sir. So a lot

510
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: of our reactions are from years of being like calloused

511
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: at this point and being abused and picked over and

512
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: all this stuff. So we don't have like we have

513
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: anger and aggressiveness that we respond with and it so

514
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: so you have people that feel this way and then

515
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: then when it when it comes to like a cop

516
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: being killed or something, people do feel like, well, you

517
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: just did your job, so why should I be sad

518
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: because they've had so many people tell them that when

519
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: a black person dies or that, no one should be sad.

520
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: So it's like a tip for tat thing when you know,

521
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to let it get to that point

522
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: because I don't want to be that broken, like you know,

523
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that in judgment of anybody else.

524
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Do as you please, obviously, but you know, I don't

525
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: want to be broken that way. I personally want to

526
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: hold on to that part of me that it's still

527
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: saddened by the loss of any life that was taken

528
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: in violence and unnecessarily. You know, sir, we had episode

529
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: twelve fifty three Chuck and job. Kr W says no,

530
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: just no, but not just no, but hell no. And

531
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm assuming they're talking about the poll. Okay, all right,

532
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: so I guess we have to read the poefere we

533
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: can read this comment because they let the comment. Uh

534
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, okay, So the poe was, will you be

535
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: watching Charles Barcley's race card, Yes or no? Five point

536
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: seven percent say yes. Ninety folk cent say they will

537
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: not be watching. You know what, my intention is not

538
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: to watch it.

539
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm gonna hear about it, but I'm

540
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: definitely not gonna watch because you're gonna hear about it

541
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: because people gonna tune in. It's gonna be all down

542
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: your Facebook feed, all down your timeline because some people,

543
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: just my personal opinion, some people love to torture themselves,

544
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: if that makes sense, Like like for real, I feel

545
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: like with Don Lemon, Stacey Dashed, like some of these

546
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: other people, I don't hear about the ship until it

547
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: his timeline because I don't go looking for it. I

548
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: don't watch it because I know they're trolling me. I

549
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: refuse to go through that emotion to roller coaster for

550
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: no fucking reason.

551
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I personally don't want to go through it.

552
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: And it is one of those moments where you look

553
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: at it and you have to be like do I

554
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: do I talk about this thing on Twitter and watch

555
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: it and kind of admonish it, because I mean, that's

556
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: a tactic too, and there's nothing wrong with that. People

557
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: do that with don Limit and stuff, and sometimes it works.

558
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes people come around people are like, Okay, I'm tired

559
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: of getting fucking roasted every day. I do look stupid.

560
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Let me stop some of these antics. And then sometimes

561
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: when it's people like Charles Barkley, they can't be reached,

562
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: but maybe you can shame t and tea or something

563
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: like that. You never know anyway, Carole W says, not

564
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: just no, but hell no. The name alone tells you

565
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: this isn't going to be treated as a serious issue.

566
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: My hope is that it gets canceled after one episode,

567
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: but I suspect enough people will tune in to watch

568
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: Barkley say problematic, uninformed shit to keep it going for

569
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: at least a few episodes. Yes, sir, Yeah, that's kind

570
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, it's like a whole genre now of

571
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: entertainment where you just give somebody a fucked up you know,

572
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: a platform, You give a fucked up person a platform,

573
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: and it's just like watch the magic of social media

574
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: and Twitter and negative press do to work for you

575
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, it's the Stacey dash on Race show,

576
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: and you.

577
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: Know, because the thing is at the end of the

578
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: day is black people's pain is a form of entertainment

579
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: and people make money off of our pain. And that's

580
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: what it boils down to. And they don't care who

581
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 3: does it. They don't care if a white person does it,

582
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: and or if a black person does it. Asian, they

583
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: don't care black people's pain. They realize, gets the clicks,

584
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: get the get get people talking, get people interacting, get

585
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: the anger, get that roller coaster moving, get those needles bumping,

586
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: and so they don't care. Uh, they have no moral

587
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: compass and they don't have any obligation to care about

588
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: our pain.

589
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Uh we Also, I'm sorry y'all if

590
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm a lot to state this because my Twitter is

591
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: just being ridiculous all week man. Matter of fact, I'm

592
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: just gonna talk about that. Like so, you know that

593
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: you had that fan of the show, and I'm not

594
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: gonna say his name because his mom basically kind of

595
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: asked me to on Facebook to like cause I had

596
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: to put up this post. And the post was basically

597
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: screenshots of things he had said about us on the show,

598
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: lies he had made up.

599
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: And.

600
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: Pictures that people, you know, people have been harassed direct

601
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: messages he had sent people private messages he had sent

602
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: people he had a friend of the show, A couple

603
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: friends of the show make their accounts private because they

604
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 2: felt so harassed by this person, and so in an

605
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: effort to kind of get the word out so that

606
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: people can know, like, yo, this dude is a creep essentially, like,

607
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 2: and I tried to be a gentleman about it, where

608
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, it was kind of like, Okay, I understand

609
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: that maybe you just feel like it's a misunderstanding, and

610
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: that happens sometimes, you know, it's happened to me before,

611
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: where I'm just like, well, it seems like a misunderstanding.

612
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: But when I feel when I when it's a misunderstanding

613
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: to me, I tap out, Like I'm like, okay, cool,

614
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: you feel a certain way. I can't change your opinion

615
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: of me. I can't change your mind. I'm done. But

616
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: then this dude starts, you know, going around and like

617
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: lying on our show, lying on me, saying I made

618
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: our Facebook group a place where black women can are

619
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: getting harassed, just like you know, just completely unfounded bullshit man.

620
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: And it was like it's been really disheartening to see,

621
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, and people are saying like he has some issues.

622
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: And his mother was saying he had some issues like

623
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: health wise and mentally wise and stuff, and she's like,

624
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: I promise he's gonna get off of social media. And

625
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: he's a younger guy, he's about to go to college,

626
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't want people to She didn't

627
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: want people to find his name and be like, oh,

628
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: you're about to go to college, but here you are

629
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: on Twitter saying this. Here you are, you know, people

630
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: are saying you're harassing him and stuff, to which you know,

631
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: it's hard to feel sympathy for somebody that does shit

632
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: like this because you don't have to do that. I know,

633
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: these people that you've you know, at minimum annoyed, but

634
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: at worse, you know, harassed. I can't think of another

635
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: way to put it, you know, so basically put him

636
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: on blast. And then what's funny is like he goes

637
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: on Twitter and starts trying to link up with anybody

638
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: that's ever had something bad to say about me, which

639
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't take much for people to just

640
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: not vet anything, so he would go find people, which

641
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: is funny. It's like he almost kept a dossier of

642
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: everyone who's ever had an issue with me, which is,

643
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, some odd shit to do. But so he

644
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: went and he immediately finds like a few people that

645
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: and only one or two of them really bite. And

646
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: one of the people that bit on this is this

647
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: dude that I won't say his name on the show.

648
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: Same you know, same thing. I'm not really trying to

649
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: have this person be harassed. I'm not really trying to,

650
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, I understand my platform is bigger than you know,

651
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: whatever they got going on, and this person will definitely

652
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: cry foul and be like I was victimized, no matter

653
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: how much shit they've been talking about me over the

654
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: last year. But there's this dude that we kind of had,

655
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: we had a disagreement. He was cool for a long

656
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: time seeing the thing I was cool. I don't know

657
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: what that, you know, mate, But maybe there's like animosity

658
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: that's already been there. You know, I understand, you know,

659
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: he's lgbt Q, like on the spectrum somewhere, and I

660
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 2: know that, you know, there's a lot of animosity between

661
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: straight black men and everybody else because you know, straight

662
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: black man we problematic, Like we do a lot of

663
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: fucked up shit. We're not always is informed, we're not

664
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: always empathetic. We don't always know what the fuck we're

665
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: talking about, Like is like completely understood, you know, not

666
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: to mention, you know, the people that are straight up

667
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: like fuck this person and take it personal and all

668
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: this shit. So I understand, like there's been interactions. I'm

669
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: sure they've been negative on a large part, and someone

670
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: like me already by the nature of being a straight

671
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: black dude who to a lot of people looks like

672
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: their abuser, you know what I mean, Like, it's not

673
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: much difference between me and some other nigga that is

674
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: calling you some slurs or dismissing your opinion or telling

675
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: you I just don't agree with your lifestyle and shit

676
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: like that. So I'm already dealing with, you know, dealing

677
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: with that on one hand in the middle of this discussion,

678
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: which is totally reasonable. I think that's what happens to

679
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Like it's how some black people are,

680
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: like this white person fucked up, fuck them, fuck them forever,

681
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: I don't remember this time, you fucked up forever. So

682
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: this other dude hops in and he's like cosiding everything

683
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: that's God's saying, which is fucked up because the guy's

684
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: a fucking stalker who you know, stalk black women, made

685
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: black women like make their pages private and and blocked

686
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: him on social media and all this stuff, and then

687
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: he hid behind this idea of like, well, I have

688
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: some disability, so you know it's really about you know,

689
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: it's really more about me. And if you say anything

690
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: about stopping his harassment, then he goes to like, I'll

691
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: like I'll think about suicide sometimes and stuff like that.

692
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: Like it's just a whole mess of issue that I

693
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: personally am not equipped to deal with as a fucking podcaster.

694
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I'm nobody's professional, you know, mental

695
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: health person. I'm just a guy. So propping this dude

696
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: up kind of brought this other dude back into my

697
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: spectrum because all of a sudden there's people and my

698
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: mentions like hey did you see this? Did you see that?

699
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: And I have I blocked this person over a year

700
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: ago after this conversation. I've made sure not to mention

701
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: them or their name, because I understand how shit goes,

702
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: and anything else I say or do about it is

703
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: gonna be considered harassment from this person. Like some people are.

704
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 2: It's like it's a hopeless thing, like you're not gonna

705
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: be able to be liked by everyone, and you're not

706
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: gonna be able to like resolve everything. I would like

707
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: to resolve it. But at the same time, I already

708
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: know I already can see the writing on the wall.

709
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: If I reach out to this person, it's gonna be like,

710
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: you're harassing me. More. I don't want to talk to you.

711
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 2: It's you're legitimizing what I'm saying about you. So I'm

712
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: just like cool, hate me in your space, you know,

713
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: to tell everybody in the world you don't fuck with me,

714
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: and the people that believe you will you know. Now.

715
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: The thing the discussion we had at the time was,

716
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: and I think we even talked about on the show

717
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: also without mentioning his name, because I prefer not to

718
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: try to dredge that shit up. But at the time

719
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: the conversation was, there was an article that was written

720
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: that basically said Black Lives Matter does not care about

721
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: LGBTQ people, you know, and to me, I felt like

722
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: the article was being a bit dismissive of like kind

723
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: of the leadership of the time. Now at the same time,

724
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 2: over the last I don't know years, some change since

725
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: it happened. I've learned a lot more about black lives

726
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: matter and black and the black liberation movement in black protests,

727
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: and how it's not all the same, and how your

728
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: leadership quote unquote isn't really your leadership, you know, like

729
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: the Ray is not really a leader in this in

730
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: in in specifically in that organization. While he may be

731
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: a leader in this movement, Nedda is not necessarily a

732
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: leader in this organization, but she's still a person that

733
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: you would that is visible, that we would know of.

734
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: So to to that extent, it's like, okay, so as

735
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: as with everybody were always learning, I go back, I

736
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: look at that conversation, even like recently went back and

737
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: looked at our initial like argument was like, okay, I

738
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: see where the where I see where the misunderstanding occurred,

739
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: because to me, it was you're saying that these people

740
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: that are in charge literally would not march for anyone

741
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: that wasn't straight, like a straight black man or woman,

742
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: right to which my belief and still to this day,

743
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: my belief is that those organizations and those people do care,

744
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: and those people would march for those people. Now that

745
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: being said, I and I actually agree with him on this.

746
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that the people show up to march

747
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: the way for that, and I don't know that that's

748
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: the leadership's fault. And the article that was put out

749
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: was basically blaming like the leadership and kind of comparing

750
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: it to like, no matter who is by who, it

751
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, you should show up in march. So even

752
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: if the person was trends and they were killed by

753
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, another person in the community, black Lives Matter

754
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: is supposed to show up in march for that. And

755
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: so I'm like, okay, I'm trying to understand what's the

756
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: line then, because some people use that same argument, but

757
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: they they use it to say, well, what about black

758
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: on black crime? Why doesn't Black Lives Matter show up

759
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: when a black person is killed by another black person?

760
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, why doesn't it Why don't they show up

761
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: for this, that and the other. And it's like because

762
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: they're actually against state sanctioned killings of black people, Like

763
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: if the police are doing it, then it's time to

764
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: march and speak out and hashtag and all that stuff.

765
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: So but clearly it was a clear to me, clear misunderstanding.

766
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: But since then, you know, it's been Rod's dismissive of

767
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: the LGBTQ people. Uh, he put me on some you know,

768
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: some list with these other people of like these people

769
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: all are you know, homophobic and all this shit. He's

770
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: y'all favorite and all this, Like I'm I'm now one

771
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: of the faves on Twitter. Apparently I'm now like I

772
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: don't know. And the thing is, you can't control the narrative.

773
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: You can't control everybody. And when people can't control you,

774
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: they definitely try to control the narrative. But I can't

775
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: like reconcile that, and I'm not able to disprove a negative.

776
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: So if people really think I'm a person that just

777
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: dismisses people who are LGBTQ and they have an opinion,

778
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: I like, I'm just like, fuck your opinion, it was

779
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: different from mine. You can go. Then people will feel

780
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: that way, like I honestly can't change anything like that.

781
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of like that thing where you go, this

782
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: person's racist, and they go, but I have black friends.

783
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't prove shit, and there's no way to unprove

784
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: this kind of shit. So I'm okay with this idea

785
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: that this person's not gonna like me and they're gonna

786
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: spread shit about me and they're gonna, you know, basically

787
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: take things completely in the context that they want to

788
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: take them. That's absolutely fine, but it's whacked to me

789
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: that somebody reached out to this person they and then

790
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: this person prop this person prop you know, the other

791
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: dude back up the fan, you know where. It's like,

792
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: so now you're helping this fucking harassmer get a more

793
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: bigger platform and seem validated and just literal lies. He's

794
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: literally lying, and then this other you know, like this

795
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: thing where this person is saying I have like a

796
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: track record of doing this and whatnot. It's just so

797
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: disheartening because literally I would not do that, you know

798
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, it's just so it's disheartening, I'll

799
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: put it that way. And it's weird because even though

800
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: I had this person blocked, even though this person has

801
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: me blocked, even though I don't talk about this person directly,

802
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: even though we don't tag each other, people will come

803
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: in because they see you talking about us. We're both

804
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: very visible on this platform, and they go, well, you're

805
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: talking about this person, I'm gonna ask them, And so

806
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: now I end up you know, getting tagged in these

807
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: conversations where I'm literally trying to avoid this person because

808
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: I know that they're gonna take it into this is

809
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: another level of abuse, and nobody believes me. And I'm

810
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: telling you he's abusive. And if a person thinks that

811
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: that cool, I can't change that. And I don't want

812
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: to be anybody's abuse or I don't want to try

813
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: to silence anybody like. That's why I'm not even fucking

814
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: arguing with them. I'm not seeking them out, I'm not

815
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: emailing them, I'm not trying to contact them. But it

816
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: does bother me, you know, Like I I was in

817
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: a car last night and I was thinking about emailing

818
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: this person because I was like, clearly, like at one

819
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: point we were cool. We had one, in my opinion, misunderstanding,

820
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: because honestly, I would not argue with them that a

821
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: lot of people don't give a fuck when it's not

822
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: a straight black person. I've said it on the show before.

823
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't care when it's not a

824
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: straight black man. It's very hard to hashtag a quote

825
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: unquote not perfect victim because a lot of people define

826
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: perfection by being straight, being male, not being black. Like

827
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: a whole lot of shit, you know, not being violent,

828
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: not being not being a past criminal, Like they count

829
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: some things in there that are just completely fucked up,

830
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: Like I don't know why your sexual orientation would even

831
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: come into play for whether or not the police should

832
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: kill you. But we got these hotel type dudes. We

833
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: got certain people in these democrats and the black demographic

834
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: that are like, well, I ain't watching for this person.

835
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna follow behind deray he's gay, you know

836
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like there's that you have this type

837
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: of mentality out there. I'm not a purveyor of that.

838
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: I push back on that when I see that, but

839
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 2: I won't deny that the problem exists. So it's kind

840
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: of you know, and I remember in that conversation, I

841
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: actually linked to another article that kind of said the

842
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: same thing. But what but it was more like, it's

843
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: people's fault, Black people's fault that don't get up there

844
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: in march for those names, Like it's not the leadership,

845
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: is not the organization, because if you organize a march

846
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: but nobody comes, is that your fault, right, you know.

847
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: What I mean?

848
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: So it was just kind of that thing, and I

849
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: do have I still have a fundamental belief that the

850
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: people in charge of the organization of BLM and the

851
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: black protesters that I know, you know via Twitter and

852
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: social media like everybody else, I really do believe that

853
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: if somebody of the LGBTQ spectrum gets killed by the police,

854
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: they're going to hashtag, They're gonna be like we should march,

855
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna That's that's my personal belief. Now, that's where

856
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: that may be where we disagree and will and you

857
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: feel and that person may feel dismissed by that disagreement,

858
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: and I can't help that. I believe that, like it's

859
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: and it's absolutely fine that this person doesn't. I'm okay

860
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: with disagreeing on on on that I and I and

861
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: I can I there's something I can actually be proven

862
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: wrong on, Like if you know, somebody gets killed in there,

863
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: and and and and it's there's a refusal to you know,

864
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: say their name and to discuss them and all that

865
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: stuff because they having to be lgbt Q. I'm completely

866
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: willing to say, well, I was wrong. I really thought

867
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: I really believed in these people and thought that they

868
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: were would organize regardless. I didn't think it would be

869
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: a litmus test to organizing, you know, and uh, and

870
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: hopefully one day we can live in a world where

871
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: it's not if if if that is the case. But

872
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, it bothers me because as far as I'm concerned,

873
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: this person is lying on me, you know what I mean,

874
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: Like and and and this is part of visibility, is

875
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: you you get to a certain level, and it's like

876
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: people have so much animosity that when they see you,

877
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: it just brings up another rant. And it's until everybody

878
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: believes me, until everybody sees you know, and they poke

879
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: you and needle you. And I feel like the point

880
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: is kind of almost like I'm an y'all gonna see

881
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: that he's a fraud if I just keep if I

882
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: get him mad enough, if I get him to say

883
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: something stupid enough, if he just steps out of character

884
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 2: long enough. And it's like I'm not playing a character,

885
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: Like I never worry about quote unquote saying the wrong

886
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: thing because I'm being me, Like this isn't an act

887
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: and I'm not going through a checklist. And when I

888
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: say something fucked up or I say something problematic, that's

889
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: also me too, so I can learn from those things.

890
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: The other thing that's really weird is Let's say that

891
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 2: I really was being like completely dismissive, and that's that's

892
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: who I am. I well, you LGBTQ, I ain't gotta

893
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: listen to what you got to say. Fuck that. Let's

894
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: say that's who I am. It's been over a year.

895
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: I could have learned to improve, I could have been

896
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: I maybe a different person. Like there's no room and

897
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: it's like people don't want to leave you stuck in

898
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: this area, like will you make a mistake or something

899
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: like that. I'm a person that already mentally gets stuck

900
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: in these areas. When I have a just not even

901
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: just a mistake, a misunderstanding, I will live there in

902
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: my head forever. I still remember this conversation I had

903
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: with this person verbatim, like I remember pretty much every tweet.

904
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll go back on Twitter search the flirt, do

905
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: use the search function and be like, okay, so then

906
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: he said this, Then I said that. Then I don't

907
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: see why this is a problem, but okay. Then he

908
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: said it was like this, but I definitely didn't mean

909
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: it this way. But then he said he took it

910
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: that way, Like I like, I literally remember those things.

911
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: But at the same time, once the bridge is burned.

912
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: Once the damage is done, you have to live there.

913
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: And it really feels like this shit is gonna keep

914
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: coming up forever with this one specific person because that's

915
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: all they think of me, and that's all they want

916
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: people to think of me, regardless of anything else I do,

917
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: regardless of anything else I've ever said, regardless of my actions,

918
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 2: regardless of my heart, any of that shit. The point

919
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: is to leave me stuck there. And it's something I've

920
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: had to learn to accept this year, this week, really

921
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: of this idea that some people are just they're gonna

922
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: get more attention from lying on you than they would

923
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 2: get from coming clean or reconciling with you or letting

924
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: the shit go. You know, it's just a different mentality.

925
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm more of a let shit go type of person,

926
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: where you know, you know, we have people on the

927
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: show that I'm friends of and I'm friends with, but

928
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: then they'll say certain shit where I'm like, I don't

929
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: agree with that. We might have it out, but at

930
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I'm like, Okay, that's still

931
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: your opinion, that's still your right. I don't fuck with

932
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: you on that, like and you and anytime it comes

933
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: up between me and you as friends, I'll never not

934
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: say something because I'm your friend, and I do feel

935
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: like it's my responsibility. I can't dictate your opinion, but

936
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: it's definitely my responsibility to give the other perspective when

937
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: I think you're wrong, Like I'm cool with that, you

938
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because people like and I think

939
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: Twitter and social media has enabled us to give up

940
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: on people immediately like block, unfollow, mute, you know whatever,

941
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: And it's kind of it's kind of weird to see,

942
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: to see like almost how celebrities get treated by people,

943
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: but from just some random person to me, like it's

944
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: just uh so, yeah, it's disturbing. Like when I, like, honestly,

945
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: when I saw somebody tweeting me and this person in

946
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: the same tweet just now, it was like I had

947
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of a panic attack, and I'm like,

948
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: what the fuck, Like I literally am not talking about

949
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: this person, like honestly, and I know they're talking shit

950
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: about me. I know what's been going on. People keep

951
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: telling me, people keep sending me pictures and shit in screenshots.

952
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't need to know, Like it's really I understand

953
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 2: that that is an reconcilable difference it'll never ever, They'll

954
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: they're never giving me a second chance, and I'm never

955
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: gonna ask for it because I understand that they're Like

956
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: I respect their anger. I respect that they disagree with me.

957
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: I respect that they think I'm just a very problematic person.

958
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: I feel like that's as good as it's gonna get.

959
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: So you know, if you see it, you don't got

960
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: to tag me in it. And the same thing with

961
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: the other dude, Like, don't, don't even worry about sending me.

962
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: The only thing I care about with the other dude

963
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: is that he was harassing black women and that were

964
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: in our group, and he's lying on the show and

965
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: shit like that. But honestly, I hope he gets the

966
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: help that his mom was talking about him getting. Period.

967
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: That's it. Like I hope that person is fine eventually

968
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: as well, Like like I don't, I don't harbor this

969
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: animosity and hating me is gonna be a waste of time.

970
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: Like I'm having a good life. I'm having a good time.

971
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay positive. I'm trying not to let

972
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: all these things that we talk about on a daily

973
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: basis bother me the same way you are. You know,

974
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm still just the average dude, like every fuckingbody else.

975
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: So all that to say, like, yeah, it does get

976
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: to you. It does by you know, it does get

977
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: bother you. It does, you know, the trolling and all

978
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: this shit and the lies and shit, and the you know,

979
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: refusal to even attempt to view it another way and

980
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 2: all this shit. It definitely gets to you. It gets

981
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 2: to me. I can't say it gets to you. I

982
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: don't know what it gets to other people, but it

983
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: definitely gets to me. But if you're hearing a little

984
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: bit of like distraction in my voice right now, that's

985
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: what it's from. It's just we're getting this update and

986
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: being like, yo, what the fuck? You know what I mean? Like, like,

987
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: not only is this person because people are messy. It's

988
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: like when people see someone talking about you, they're gonna

989
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: tag you to it. They're gonna want you to be notified.

990
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna want to see a fight on the timeline.

991
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: That's what they really want. And I don't The same

992
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: way I treated the fire Star shit is the same

993
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 2: way I'm treating this. I'm not trying to fight this person.

994
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: They don't like me, It's cool, you know what I mean?

995
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: They have a verse of events did they feel happened.

996
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: I have to say I look at the same tweets

997
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: and feel like it was a completely different misunderstanding either way.

998
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: I have like I'm letting it go because it's been

999
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: over a fucking year, Like who stays mad that goddamn long?

1000
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: But then more importantly, who thinks that the other person

1001
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't have changed who just over a year? A fucking

1002
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: year like? And then, like I said, people, because with

1003
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: this particular person, you guys can search the tweets, right, y'all?

1004
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: Do know you can go back and look at exactly

1005
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: what the exchange was and see for yourselves. Like that's

1006
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: what I tell everybody to do whenever they come to

1007
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: me with this shit. I'm just like, go search your

1008
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: tweets because you can see for yourself. And I can

1009
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: guarantee people can see exactly what the disconnect happened. When

1010
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: I was like, well, what about this different article where

1011
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: they don't say it's the leadership's fault, but it's black

1012
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: people's fault, and black people are homophobic, and black people

1013
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: are sexist, and black people are a bunch of shit

1014
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: where they get information for oh, black dude got killed?

1015
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: You know, and if we don't investigate those people, you know,

1016
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: Auton Sterling gets to be a statutory rapist that we

1017
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: still put in a hashtag and we still march behind.

1018
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 2: Sondra Bland gets to have homophobic videos on YouTube and

1019
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: it's still gonna be say her name, like, it's not

1020
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: necessarily the same scrutiny apply to these people. And you're right,

1021
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: if somebody is LGBTQ and it's time to march. I

1022
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: have a feeling a lot of people that feel very

1023
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: comfortable promoting other people's names and stuff will not. They

1024
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: simply will not. They will be like, I do not

1025
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 2: fuck with gay people period. There's people that say they

1026
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: are pro black, but they would not. They won't. They won't.

1027
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: They don't want to be involved with a movement that

1028
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: has deray in it or LGBTQ people at the hell

1029
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: like like like the Black Lives Matter organization. There are

1030
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: people like that, you know what I mean, And that's fine.

1031
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: Those people are are fucking a problem, and I talk

1032
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: shit about them and I will confront them at every

1033
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: turn too. But yeah, if I'm the enemy to this person,

1034
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 2: I understand and I get that they're not gonna let

1035
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: it go, but please, y'all stop tagging me in this shit. Like, honestly,

1036
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where nothing positive is gonna

1037
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: come of it. And once you get to that point,

1038
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything that can be done, you know,

1039
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: because this person not trying to hear me. I'm sure

1040
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: they don't listen to our show. I'm sure they don't

1041
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: give a fuck about what I talk about. Like, I

1042
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: get it, you know what I mean. I'm the enemy,

1043
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm the I'm the assist had black man that as

1044
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: far as this person's concerned, my love for black women

1045
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: does not spread to LGBTQ people. It doesn't go beyond that.

1046
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: And I'm not asking anyone to harass this Person's why

1047
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying their name. Don't act them. You don't

1048
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: have to tell them we talked about, like, don't do

1049
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 2: all that shit because it's not really worth it. They'll

1050
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: never see me as anything other than abuser as far

1051
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 2: as that person's concerned. So I'm saying for you, don't

1052
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: worry about it, don't fight on my behalf. You don't

1053
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: have to dispute it because it's gonna become well, you're

1054
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 2: denying my reality you're denying the abuse I experience that

1055
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: this person did. It's gonna become all of that for them,

1056
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: and you'll be part of the problem. So don't be

1057
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: part of the problem, you know. And I'm just gonna

1058
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: leave it at that because and I feel like I

1059
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: have to talk about it because it bothered the fuck

1060
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 2: out of me. And it's been going on for over

1061
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: a year now. And seeing this other dude that we

1062
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: do know was harassing women that you know we put

1063
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: the Facebook post on and shit, to see him run

1064
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: to this person knowing that he would get that co signed,

1065
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: regardless of being wrong, regardless of being abuser, abusive and

1066
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: harassing in these direct messages and shit. Seeing that was

1067
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: really disappointing. But when people don't like you, they see

1068
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: what they want to see anyway, So it was you know,

1069
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: It's not for me to be able to prove or

1070
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: disprove this person. All I can do is continue trying

1071
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: to make the best show I can make, trying to

1072
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: make the show fun, but also being inclusive, trying to

1073
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: speak out for what's right and what's wrong on our

1074
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: show and on our airways. And that's what I can control,

1075
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: and that's what I do the rest of it is

1076
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: always gonna be somebody that don't fuck with you. And

1077
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: that's and that's just the lesson I've kind of gotten

1078
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: from this. And I remember it was this quote I

1079
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: looked up and I can't even remember who was by,

1080
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: but it was like talking about liars, and it was

1081
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: like the main problem with people that lie is not

1082
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: that people don't believe them, is that they can't believe anybody.

1083
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: And that's it, Like you can't believe that I'm not

1084
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: the person you say I am, you know, And it's

1085
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: not the problem that people don't believe you. I mean

1086
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: people don't believe people that tell the truth. I mean

1087
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: that's not you know, like belief is and trusting all

1088
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: that's a very fleeting concept anyway. But this idea of believing,

1089
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: being able to believe in somebody else, that's the part

1090
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: you've been robbed of. So you know, it's cool if

1091
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: you can't believe in me. I'm not a saint either,

1092
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: But this idea that I'm just sitting around like hiding

1093
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: my problematic you know secret I hate gay people. Side. Yeah,

1094
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: good luck with that. Good luck you'll be waiting a

1095
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: long time to see me. Run out here trying to

1096
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: actively cause problems or dismiss people or whatever for being LGBTQ,

1097
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it, all right,

1098
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: So anyway, let's get into these concepts, into these concepts,

1099
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: let's get into the rest of these comments. Episode twelve

1100
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: fifty four, bro teps. You had a lot of comments

1101
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: on this, a lot of people that enjoyed that. Yeah,

1102
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: we got a lot of comments on social media and stuff.

1103
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: It was fun. So let's see. We had Forrest wrote

1104
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: in and said it's insane that the textbook use h

1105
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: uses Cubans as an example of Latino respectability. First, Cubans

1106
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: tend to be solid Republican voting block. Further, their relationship

1107
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: with America is completely different, different like Puerto Ricans. Uh,

1108
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: they don't have to deal with undocumented status, so of

1109
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: course assimilation is far easier than it is for other Latinos.

1110
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise me though. Remember Texas is the same

1111
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: place where textbooks that were released that called slaves, where

1112
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: that called slaves migrant workers. Okay, so yeah, this is

1113
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: about that book where they were calling Latino people lazy

1114
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: and saying that the uh, what was it? What movement

1115
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: was it. There was a movement where they were labeling

1116
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: it as like, uh, these are just people that didn't

1117
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: understand America and work ethic and they don't want to

1118
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: get along, and yeah, they were basically skipping over every

1119
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: other issue that would cause you know, problems between Latino people,

1120
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: Brown people, and basically assimilating into America. And it turned

1121
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: it into well, these are all the shortcomings of these

1122
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: brown people, nothing to do with America, nothing to see here. Prof.

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01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: Corey responded to this comment and said, I grew up

1124
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: in Texas. It took me until after graduate school, when

1125
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: I was already a professor to realize that I needed

1126
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: to unlearn my mandatory Texas history class. It really drives

1127
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: home how deliberate, how deliberately white domination must be reinforced.

1128
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: They don't leave anything to chance. More than fifty percent

1129
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: of their children are Mexican American. Let's make sure they

1130
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: never have a chance to see themselves without this distorting

1131
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: lens infuriating.

1132
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Speaker 3: Right, because the most frightening thing for a group of people,

1133
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: particularly a brown group of people, is an educated group

1134
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: of brown people. That causes fear because a lot of

1135
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: times those are the people that can make the.

1136
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: Change, especially if that not educated in what you want

1137
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: them to know, right, Like, oh yeah, I want you

1138
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: to know if slavery was a paragraph, you know, but

1139
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: I want you to know the history of it or

1140
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 2: the brutality of it. Hey, slaves are well fed at

1141
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: the White House, so let's move on, you know. Desil

1142
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: Rae says, I'm completely with the profit. I've been in

1143
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: Texas all my life and never thought of question of

1144
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: my education when it comes to history. I'm over to

1145
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: Austin when I was nineteen and suddenly her friends making

1146
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: remarks about the bullshit that we were taught. After little

1147
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: self education, I realized my entire view of American history

1148
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: was really skilled. I'm now mother three, with my oldest

1149
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: in in third grade this year. My husband and I

1150
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: have actually made a game plan concerning contacting our local

1151
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: elementary school to preview his forthcoming books. It's absolutely ridiculous

1152
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: that two tax paying non educators are charged of fact

1153
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: checking our local public school to make sure they give

1154
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: our children a proper and accurate education. I fucking hate

1155
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: my state.

1156
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: Right because the people that normally for a lot of states,

1157
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: that normally we read this shit and get them to

1158
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 3: redo it. Deygo Nah, y'all can't be here. You got

1159
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: a degree in as Nope, yep.

1160
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: Prov Corey also says I'm sure I'm not the only

1161
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: person who immediately thought of Will Smith's framing other issues

1162
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: in November twenty fifteen. I guess this was before he

1163
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: and Jada decided to talk about boycott and the oscars. Maybe

1164
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: the constant killing the black people hit him harder sooner. Anyway,

1165
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: he put the issues this way in November twenty fifteen,

1166
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: and I have to say, I live with constant prejudice,

1167
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: but racism is rare. Someone who thinks that they're racist

1168
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: superior that. Oh yeah, I remember we covered that on

1169
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: the show too. Yeah yeah. I think also via the

1170
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: lens of whiteness, a lot of people don't feel comfortable

1171
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: saying racism is racism. They prefer to say prejudice because

1172
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: it sort of takes this thing out for a lot

1173
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: of people because they feel like, well, anyone could be prejudiced.

1174
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, it's prejudice just to think somebody ever

1175
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 2: cert can't do this, you know, like that, like it's

1176
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: prejudiced to think basketball black black people are but good

1177
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: at basketball. And you're like, yeah, but this is different, Like,

1178
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: if your prejudice is informed by racism, it's still racism.

1179
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: The result is still racism. Tony says, Karen's gasped when

1180
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: the bro teps said that women should vote was my

1181
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: exact response to but only after it hit me that

1182
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: they were so serious. And the endorsement of fatal Intraction

1183
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: just so damn perfect. Some of these episodes have some

1184
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: unpredictable twists that are too good. Thanks Tony, Yeah, and

1185
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: thank my mom for that Fatal Attraction.

1186
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: Dog.

1187
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: That's my show. Also, Criminals at Work check that out

1188
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: comes on every Friday six. I just watched one today.

1189
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: Are we watching for your man? I think we for

1190
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: your man?

1191
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying for your man. Yeah, I'm watching all

1192
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 2: of them. Would you sign up to get stuff from

1193
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: the reparations website? Somebody's creating a website for people to

1194
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: basically give black people the look up, and it's not

1195
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: for past stuff. So it's not like, oh, here's a

1196
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: million dollars because your granddaddy was a slave, miss yeah,

1197
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: stuff like you want two tickets to the game? I

1198
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: got you, And sixty two percent of our audience said yes,

1199
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 2: they would sign up. Twenty four said no, they would

1200
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: not sign up, and fifteen percent of y'all aren't black,

1201
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: So you didn't vote in the pole that way. Good.

1202
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all using that option. I was worried that

1203
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: a lot of y'all would not use the that option.

1204
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: So yeah. Also, last episode twelve fifty five, same as

1205
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 2: the Old Pope, where we basically reached the conclusion that

1206
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: Pope the New Pope was transphobic because he said that

1207
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: it was something like abomination of God or something, and

1208
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: everybody's always been propping him up. It's so different the transformer,

1209
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: the redeemer of this and it's like or the guy

1210
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: who reads the same book and has been through all

1211
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: the same training and in the same political circles as

1212
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 2: every other pope. And yeah, at the end of the day,

1213
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: he's not about to change shit at any rate. Max says,

1214
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: if the North Carolina government agrees that businesses should not

1215
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 2: be able to refuse service to certain customers, how does

1216
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: he not believe that some entertainers that choose not to

1217
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: provide services to those places? Seems like the same right

1218
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: to me? Love the show, right, Yeah, that is true.

1219
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: Pat McCory was like, these people need to stop politicizing

1220
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: the music. It's like, well, you politicize the motherfucking bathroom, Like,

1221
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: how about you bring the bathrooms back and then maybe

1222
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: sting will come through. Right, you know, you use your

1223
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: power to politicize your religious agenda, and there's people that

1224
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: you know are deciding to boycott and make statements about

1225
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: how fucked up that is, and now you just want

1226
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: them to shut up.

1227
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 3: All right, because you want to be allowed to be

1228
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: a bigger instilled have them come in, spend their money,

1229
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 3: spend their dollars, have their career here, you know, the

1230
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 3: people that associated with them here and go all everything's

1231
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 3: okay because we love you. And he's like, nope, fuck you.

1232
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: It's a new pope making a difference on LGBTQ rights. Yes,

1233
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: seventeen percent people say yes, So he still got some

1234
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: people that feel like, you know, his less uh, I

1235
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: don't even know what word to call it, less, less

1236
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: harsh tone than other popes is still helping them some ways.

1237
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: And eighty three percent of people are kind of like me,

1238
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's helping. It's like it's one thing

1239
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: to say something, but it's another thing actions. Yeah, so uh.

1240
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: And lastly we had a voicemail. We just had the

1241
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: one let me see play that came in during the show.

1242
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: So Karen and rid at Shana calling from Jacksonville, Florida,

1243
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: just wanted to say, great shows this week. And I

1244
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: just really appreciate what you guys do and the way

1245
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: you tackle topics. It's done with such a three stick,

1246
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: three sixty finger on the pulse and it's hard to articulate.

1247
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: It's just so rich. It's just so hard to find

1248
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: these days. And I just really appreciate it. And I

1249
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of us have jobs that you know,

1250
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: we don't love, but I can just think of something

1251
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: funny Karen said on the show weeks ago, and it'll

1252
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: just it'll bring smile to my face and just put

1253
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 1: me in a great mood. So I just want to

1254
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: thank you guys.

1255
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: Again for that.

1256
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: And I do want to make a comment about I

1257
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: believe you discussed it in the bro TEPS episode of

1258
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: Making a Murderer getting a second season, and I just

1259
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: think it it's kind of tragic, that tragic that it's

1260
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: getting another season. I watched the first one and I

1261
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: would have loved to been a fly on the wall

1262
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: in President Obama's office when he seeing that five hundred

1263
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: thousand people I believe signed a petition to get this

1264
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: man pardon. And it's just sad. I mean, Stephen Avery,

1265
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: he's a piece of shit. And I think it was

1266
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: this petition. It was kind of an embarrassing moment for

1267
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: white liberals. I think it's just really embarrassing that this much,

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Speaker 1: this series came to be what it is, and it's

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Speaker 1: just sad, and I just wish that, you know, a

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Speaker 1: young boy named George George Stinney Jr. Was wrongfully executed.

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Speaker 1: He was fourteen, and he still has family members that

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Speaker 1: our lacks saying, you know, give them a big platform

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Speaker 1: to speak on. There's so many stories of people wrongfully

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Speaker 1: in prisoned, Black people wrongfully in prison and that have

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Speaker 1: been executed. So let's give one of those people a

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01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: big platform, a big story, you know. I that would

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Speaker 1: be just so amazing. All right, So I'll end it now. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this week and any future shows

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Speaker 1: you guys put out, love you guys, take care, Oh, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Shana, thank you, sweetie. And yeah, it was kind

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Speaker 2: of tragic to me, I feel like, but like that's

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: the world of TV too, is like what's marketable? I

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01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 2: think they spent ten years doing like recording footage and

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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: stuff to do season one of making a murder, and

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how they're going to do season two

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: and like a year and a half after that. It's

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01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: just and it is interesting because there are so many

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01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: people that deserve these resources, so many people that are incarcerated,

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Speaker 2: you know, either illegally or they're incarcerated like you know,

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01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: like the fact that there are transgender people in prison

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01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 2: that are basically in solitary confinement in so many situations

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01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: in prisons that don't correspond to the gender that they

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01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: actually are living. And where's that documentary? You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like, where's the funding for that? Is Netflix

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01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: putting something on that, because that's a very real issue

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01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: with people that are still alive that are experiencing that,

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01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: you know, from from the way it's treated with deportation

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: of just regular imprisoning of people like you got oranges

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Speaker 2: in New Black, But what about just in documentary on

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 2: that or you know, I know, Abe de Verne's got

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01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: a deal with She's doing like the history of like

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01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: some racism type stuff and there's you know, there's other documentaries.

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Speaker 2: Central Park five is one I think called like The

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01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: Thirteen or something like, so there are things that out there.

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, like when you see this takeoff like it

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01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: did go viral, like it did get a season two,

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01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: like it did, you know, you had that moment where

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: you're like, so, would this even be possible if if

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01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: Stephn Avery was a black man, if it was some

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01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: black dude staring at you looking on the cover of that,

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: would you click on it or would you just go

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: to the next thing on Netflix? And I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 2: blaming Netflix. I just think it's, like with most things,

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: it's people that are the issue with this and what

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Speaker 2: will people do? So at any rate, though, thank you

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 2: for calling in. We didn't get any emails this week,

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01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:35,839
Speaker 2: so that's basically the end of the show. We appreciate everybody.

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Speaker 2: I hope I didn't bump everybody out too much with

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01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 2: talking about Twitter shit on the show. But you know,

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: like Michelle Obama said, you know, the motto is when

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: they go low, we go high. So I'm gonna continue

1322
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: just trying to egg this shit and not get barred

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01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: down and brought back into it, especially like I said

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: a year ago, I knew less about what all Black

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01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 2: Lives Matter and black protests and all that power structure

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: and all that stuff was. I knew less about how

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Speaker 2: many transgender people were being killed, you know, like I

1328
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: just like everybody is on a path that they're taking

1329
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 2: that there hopefully won't be on and won't be stuck there.

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01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: But at the same time, some people they get more

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 2: powerful by dragging you back to the same place over

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01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: and over and hoping you stay there and never become

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: a better person and never become you know, and never

1334
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: become different, or just they assume the worst of you

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: and leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: Right, And what I've learned, and I know getting ready

1337
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 3: to go to what I've learned when it comes to

1338
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: things like this, everybody is allowed to grow and evolving change,

1339
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 3: But you You're allowed to grow, You're allowed to evolve,

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 3: You're allowed to change, You're allowed to develop, You're allowed

1341
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: to mature, You're allowed to extend your definition of love.

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01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: You know you're allowed to forgive, You're allowed you want forgiven,

1343
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 3: you want to be forgiven. You know you want sympathy

1344
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 3: and empathy for you and your people and in your

1345
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 3: circumstances but it's never extended out to any anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also, I mean the world has been harsh

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01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: to people, you know what I mean, Like it's kind

1348
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: of like how when white people talk about being allies

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01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: and they're like sometimes it's like I can't do anything right,

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01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: and it's like sometimes you can't, like nobody's ever going

1351
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: to There are some people that have been so hurt

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01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: and so effected and we're dealing with the scars and

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: the wounds. They are never gonna let it go. Like

1354
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 2: just your presence is automatically gonna ever forever put them

1355
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: on edge, and never have people that have abused that trust,

1356
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: people that have gained that trust and then turned around

1357
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 2: and the same thing happens. Like I said, when it

1358
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: comes to black, straight black men in our community, we

1359
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: are the police. We are the white people of our race,

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like we are the ones

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01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: who get to opt out. We are the ones who

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01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: get to be like nope, fuck you that I think

1363
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: it's this way, So your opinion doesn't count now, So

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01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 2: I can understand how all of those things happen in

1365
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: that conversation that would just trigger somebody to be like

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01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: you're one of them, fuck you forever, and I'm gonna

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: say something to everybody in the world agrees with me

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I think that's what happened. I think

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: that's where we're at. And like I said, my intention

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 2: isn't the cause any harm, especially no further harm. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm accepting that this person feels harm that once that happens,

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01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm done. Like I'm good, Like I'm a human being,

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01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: like you're a human being. I go through shit like

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: you go through shit. I learned from shit like you

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: learn from shit. I you know, like I move on

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01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: just like everything else. But I won't stay stuck there,

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: and I don't want to let that thing bring me

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01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: back there, you know what I mean. And it's obvious

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: that it bothers them that other people see me differently

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01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: than they see me, and that is just gonna have

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01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 2: to be a thing they have to learn to live

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: with because I don't feel that I'm the person they

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: think I am. And there's gonna be a lot of

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: people that, you know, have my back quote unquote, But

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: my main goal is I just hope people don't engage

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01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: them on this in a negative way. You know, if

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01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: your thing is I believe them, and I just want

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01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: to go over there and get that. That's fine, you

1389
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I'm not trying to tell

1390
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 2: people what to you can't believe them, fuck them. I'm

1391
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 2: not even saying that. I honestly am fine with people

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: that just think I ain't shit like that's fine. Like

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01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: we've gotten that big where I'm gonna be trolled. I'm

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01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: gonna have people say some some some things that I

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01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: don't just I don't agree with. I'm gonna have people

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01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: take what we do and what we say in a

1397
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 2: context that no matter how we intend it, it's gonna

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: be taking a different way. That's pretty much what this

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: public platform is at this point. But you know, it's

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: just kind of it's just kind of it's just kind

1401
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: of sad to see, especially a lot of this brought

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01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: back up by somebody that legitimately was harmful to people

1403
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: try you know, like UH directly contacted people to try

1404
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: to get him unblocked when people essentially blocked him and said, hey,

1405
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to be involved in this shit. Like

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: it's sad to see that person bring up this other

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01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 2: person who I think has a more legitimate right with me,

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: even if we ultimately disagree on what I think the

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01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: people who organized protests and stuff would do when it

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: comes to LGBT people being killed and shit. But I'm

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01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: you know, I understand if that makes me a horrible person,

1412
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: then I'm just gonna be I'll take being a horrible person,

1413
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: and maybe I'll be proven wrong and I'll be like, well, damn,

1414
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: they really dropped the ball when that person got killed,

1415
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: because you know, they didn't care since they were on

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01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: the spectrum. So we'll see. And anyway, we'll be back

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01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: tomorrow with another show. Hopefully nobody will be trolling me

1418
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: on Twitter during the show and nobody will be dragging

1419
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 2: up any drama and shit, and hopefully you guys enjoyed

1420
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: this show. I appreciate y'all listening, and you know, and

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01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: like I said, I don't like talking about this show

1422
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: on the show because it rewards people that honestly get

1423
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: off on the attention. Because honestly, if it's been over

1424
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: a year someone's had a problem with me and they

1425
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: still talking about me, it's an attention based thing. Because

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01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: I have people that I don't like and it's been

1427
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: over a year, you know what, Fuck him, I'm done like,

1428
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: you know, I ain't got to talk about you. You

1429
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: ain't saying shit, I ain't saying shit. We could We're

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01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: not cool being put it that way. I've moved on

1431
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: and with the other dude, I mean, this week was

1432
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: just his week of trying to get attention. I really

1433
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 2: hope his mom said she was gonna get him off

1434
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: of social media and he wouldn't be saying shit. But

1435
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, the next day, he was still making

1436
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: up lies and still trying to row people up. So

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: I can't even say with any certainty that that person's done.

1438
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: And I can't even say that this conversation isn't going

1439
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: to just be something else they go live about on

1440
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: social media and star spreading falsehoods and shit about the

1441
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: show and saying anything to get attention, you know. So

1442
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: that's that's that kind of sympathy pimping right there. Like

1443
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: I know people will be simp have sympathy for what

1444
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 2: I'm going through, what I'm saying, and they won't fact

1445
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: check it, and they won't look into it, and they

1446
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: won't question it. They'll just go I believe you, and

1447
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: that'll be the end of it. And that's just a

1448
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: hazard or what this is a hazard of what things

1449
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 2: are now like uh, and I'm willing to pay that cost,

1450
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 2: and I'm willing for it to be that hazard. Like

1451
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:47,440
Speaker 2: I'd rather people believe folks who say they're being victimized

1452
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: than to start trying to break down these people stories

1453
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: on my behalf, to be like, well, but you're lying,

1454
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,440
Speaker 2: and you he didn't say that, and you're you're you're embellished.

1455
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm much rather y'all just accept it because I've accepted it,

1456
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully move on. All right, guys, we'll

1457
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Till then, I love you.

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Speaker 3: I love you too.

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Speaker 1: Wo