Speaker 1: We were presented by went Beat Betty is a team sport,
Speaker 1: but together at win Bett Eric Ellen here at the
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting combine with assistant GM rex Hogan. Great sin
Speaker 1: you you know what I was thinking about before Brady
Speaker 1: Quinn was before me in the security line. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that you have had a lot of experience with
Speaker 1: going back to your days and Notre da Yah had
Speaker 1: I ran into Brady here earlier this week, so it's
Speaker 1: good catching up with him. We're staying in constant not
Speaker 1: constant communication, but randomly throughout the year we had bouncing
Speaker 1: football in life off each other. I've known him since
Speaker 1: he was a high school player and recruiting him in
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame former Jet too for a stint. How
Speaker 1: do you balance this because everybody in the NFL it's
Speaker 1: a small circle. When you've been around as long as
Speaker 1: you have and there's a lot of people want to
Speaker 1: get in your ears. So how do you keep the
Speaker 1: train moving? So to speak? Yeah, and just like you said,
Speaker 1: to keep the train moving, it's there's times where guys
Speaker 1: will say, hey, man, can I grab five ten minutes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: walk with me. So it'll be a walk from the
Speaker 1: hotel over to the stadium, or I'll have guys meet
Speaker 1: me outside the stadium and I'll do the walk with
Speaker 1: him and catch up that way. So there's constant requests
Speaker 1: man between between agents and other different companies and you know,
Speaker 1: everything everything football related. Somebody wants a chance to sit
Speaker 1: down and talk to you, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys who are trying to get into football, and so
Speaker 1: you just take time, make time for people and you know,
Speaker 1: cultivate relationships and then hopefully gets some sleep when you
Speaker 1: get back in New Jersey exactly. Hey, so I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you, and I do every year, but how
Speaker 1: do you guys balance this in terms of free agency?
Speaker 1: Legal temporary period starts March fourteens. Free agency commences March sixteenth.
Speaker 1: But you're here watching all these prospects as well, so
Speaker 1: you gotta have a couple of balls up in there
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, we're We're really fortunate to
Speaker 1: have a and just incredible group of support staff and
Speaker 1: people who work with this with you know, Christina wedding
Speaker 1: dance by Oski and how they coordinate everything for us
Speaker 1: from the personnel operations aspect. So we are constantly jumping
Speaker 1: from going from free agency, from pro to college and
Speaker 1: so you're wearing different hats, and we've got great leadership
Speaker 1: and and Greg neshma is our pro director and Chad
Speaker 1: Alexander is our director of player personnel, and then you've
Speaker 1: got Phil Savage and John Carr. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: go on and on about the whole group and and
Speaker 1: you know, highlight each one of them individually and what
Speaker 1: they do and what they bring. So it helps me
Speaker 1: and Joe obviously to have that kind of support system
Speaker 1: as a group and how we can bounce from different
Speaker 1: aspect of different aspects, knowing that they've got everything coordinated
Speaker 1: and ready for us, so we can just hop in
Speaker 1: the in the seat and we're ready for the next meeting.
Speaker 1: Where do you have to be in terms of free
Speaker 1: agency before coming here, because you guys were having staff
Speaker 1: meetings before the party for Indianapolis. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: just everybody getting on the same page in terms of
Speaker 1: how we want to address free agency. You know, how
Speaker 1: we how we want to you know, appropriate the the
Speaker 1: amount of capital that we have, you know, financially, and
Speaker 1: you know, identify what's the strength of free agency, what's
Speaker 1: the strength of the draft, and then you balance both
Speaker 1: those and then you kind of attack it appropriately in
Speaker 1: terms of where the value is in between each and
Speaker 1: and the balance of each. Like you're talking about, you
Speaker 1: basically have to have multiple plans of attack because you
Speaker 1: can have a wish list, right, but until you get there,
Speaker 1: you don't know how Actually those dominoes are gonna fall. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because the franchise tag, that's that's the trump card, right yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's base in the hole for teams, and once
Speaker 1: they put that down, it changes everything. There's a domino
Speaker 1: effect for it because all of a sudden, you might
Speaker 1: have that guy up there, they get the franchise tag
Speaker 1: on him. It's like, all right, we gotta move to
Speaker 1: the next I wanted to ask you something that Joe
Speaker 1: said way back when in January said, I think you're
Speaker 1: constantly evolving. There's some core philosophies that you don't change,
Speaker 1: but you have to be open to seeing how things
Speaker 1: are and maybe adopting certain principles. Can you elaborate a
Speaker 1: little bit on that, Yeah, I think you look at
Speaker 1: the two teams that were in the Super Bowl this
Speaker 1: year and uh, you know, you know the jokes about
Speaker 1: you know, the rams and don't worry about picks and
Speaker 1: and how they've attacked it and how they chose to
Speaker 1: build it. And then do you look at the Bengals
Speaker 1: and and how they've they built their roster and how
Speaker 1: they built their team and we're able to have success
Speaker 1: and get to the point and with a quick turnaround
Speaker 1: over two years. You know, they've got some incredible skill players.
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Burrow is playing at a very high level,
Speaker 1: and they did some things defensively through free agency and
Speaker 1: upgraded their team quickly. So I think we've talked about
Speaker 1: that and you know, as a group and our different
Speaker 1: ideas and concepts and philosophies of how do we how
Speaker 1: do we try and get to that level? You know,
Speaker 1: what are these teams doing? What what can we take
Speaker 1: from what they've done, what we can learn, what can
Speaker 1: we learn and then how to you know, change our
Speaker 1: philosophy and or adapt and improve. What do you think
Speaker 1: of the outcomes of the playoffs? Not the Rams being
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion or the way those two teams got there,
Speaker 1: which you just talked about, but how close everything was
Speaker 1: amongst the group of teams. When you're seeing those outcomes
Speaker 1: coming down to either over time or the last two
Speaker 1: or three minutes of the game. What does that say
Speaker 1: about where the NFL is right now? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it speaks volumes of how the game is transitioning to
Speaker 1: just such offensive explosions, right. I mean that there's so
Speaker 1: many players coming in from the college level. Now of
Speaker 1: the teams are playing like almost glorified seven on seven.
Speaker 1: There's so many receivers who are so skilled. There's quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that are so skilled coming to the NFL, and it's
Speaker 1: transitioning over you know, you see teams running those r
Speaker 1: p O s and you know, it's taking some spread
Speaker 1: concepts from college and building it in and blending it
Speaker 1: in with the pro game, and so it those guys
Speaker 1: have taken off. I mean you watch that, uh you
Speaker 1: know the Bills in the in the Chiefs game. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the most entertaining games, if not
Speaker 1: the most entertaining game of all time. So wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd have to agree. Um, people in Buffalo obviously upset
Speaker 1: about that, and the Kansas City had it happened to them.
Speaker 1: They get a big lead and they were not able
Speaker 1: to hold onto it today forementioned. Uh, Joey Burrow, I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting something that Robert Tellis said when
Speaker 1: he addressed the media this week, saying, hey, you can
Speaker 1: do a lot of things to help the young quarterback
Speaker 1: in that includes addressing needs on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, and the Rams did that too, you know,
Speaker 1: making some significant moves and trades and and going out
Speaker 1: and getting von Miller. Is that that final piece for
Speaker 1: a defense to to add pressure, and you know they
Speaker 1: and with match with Aaron Donald and the rest of
Speaker 1: that front. You know, when it came time to for
Speaker 1: the to put it on the defensive back and win
Speaker 1: the game, the stars played like stars and made it happen.
Speaker 1: How much better her spot are you guys in this
Speaker 1: year that maybe last year at this time, just in
Speaker 1: terms of scheme, familiarity, familiarity with the coaching staffs, the likes,
Speaker 1: the dislikes and communications batters. Yeah, it's it's been a significant,
Speaker 1: you know change. You know, you go from you know,
Speaker 1: different defensive and offensive philosophies from the previous staff and
Speaker 1: and then so you're you're learning, you're starting over and
Speaker 1: just getting that full season under your belt and just
Speaker 1: knowing knowing the coaches and and hearing their what their
Speaker 1: thoughts are about players and how they evaluate and their
Speaker 1: ideas of you know, what we're doing schematically and concepts.
Speaker 1: We're all on the same page and so we continue
Speaker 1: to grow as a player of personnel staff because of
Speaker 1: the meetings from them, so we can see it through
Speaker 1: their eyes of what they want and it just helps
Speaker 1: us build the team that that they want and that
Speaker 1: we want together. You guys drafted very talented players. We
Speaker 1: know that, but what did you think about the way
Speaker 1: Robert Sala and his staff went about developing them When
Speaker 1: we talk about this success of that two thousand one
Speaker 1: draft class, Yeah, we loved what they did with it, man,
Speaker 1: And that's what we talked about entering is like, hey,
Speaker 1: we know we're gonna be a super young team and
Speaker 1: the biggest key is going to be developing these young
Speaker 1: guys us and that there's gonna be growing pains. And
Speaker 1: everybody understood that and just kept working and kept building
Speaker 1: towards you know, a seventeen games. These guys are a
Speaker 1: rookies and they're young, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: the team hadn't played in this type of scheme before.
Speaker 1: So we feel like that the teammate tremendous gen growth
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Speaker 1: With the Tampa Bay game, Uh, tell you about this
Speaker 1: team late in the season and where the direction is headed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think especially with the that Zach played
Speaker 1: and you can see him, you know, trending up after
Speaker 1: the after the injury, and how the game slowed down
Speaker 1: for him, and you know he's protecting the ball and
Speaker 1: getting the ball out quickly and went over a hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty passes without an interception. So just for him specifically.
Speaker 1: It was great to see that improvement, but you saw
Speaker 1: the confidence and the team grow, especially with a game
Speaker 1: like that against reigning world champions and Tom Brady, and
Speaker 1: you know, we went all in for it. We went
Speaker 1: all into to get it and finish it, and uh,
Speaker 1: we learned from it. We learned as a staff, we learned,
Speaker 1: our coaching staff learned. I think we learned as an
Speaker 1: organization that you know, Robert's gonna go like he says
Speaker 1: he does, and it just we're gonna go all in,
Speaker 1: go after it. I talked to Phil Savage about that
Speaker 1: game specifically, and he said, it's fifty eight minutes we played,
Speaker 1: or maybe fifty nine plus minutes of where we are going.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's a great description, Uh Phil, you
Speaker 1: know because we we talked about that as a staff,
Speaker 1: and you know, we have our our weekly up ups
Speaker 1: after the game and we're like, that was an exposure
Speaker 1: of what we we can be as a team in
Speaker 1: two and moving forward. What do you think about the
Speaker 1: financial flexibility paired with the draft capital as you guys
Speaker 1: approach these critical couple of months, because I think it's
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit under fifty million if it keeps
Speaker 1: this four and ten overall selections, it's gonna be less
Speaker 1: than that, will be less than forty million, but obviously
Speaker 1: you have some room to maneuver. Yeah. Yeah, we feel
Speaker 1: really good about that. And you know, we've we constantly
Speaker 1: as a as a player personnel staff, have to look
Speaker 1: towards the future, and you know, we've got to build
Speaker 1: in the moment, but we also have to prepare for
Speaker 1: tomorrow too, and so we've done that, like like you
Speaker 1: describe with what we have, the the financial flexibility, with
Speaker 1: the cat flexibility and the way we've managed it, and
Speaker 1: then the way we've accumulate a draft capital and the
Speaker 1: number of picks that we have and and their high
Speaker 1: picks and they they they're very valuable to us as
Speaker 1: an organization to be able to get some young guys
Speaker 1: with high end talent who love football, who love the
Speaker 1: game and are passionate about it, and gonna add to
Speaker 1: the locker room and and hopefully increase the victories. You've
Speaker 1: been around a long time, have you ever been in
Speaker 1: this situation in this seat where you do have the
Speaker 1: not only the two top ten, but the four in
Speaker 1: the top thirty eight for the Jets, franchise. It's I
Speaker 1: think the only third time since nineteen seventy when you
Speaker 1: have four picks in the top forty. Yeah. No, I'm
Speaker 1: eighteen years in the league and we've never I've never
Speaker 1: been a part of a draft where we've had this
Speaker 1: amount of capital at this type of high end, haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't even been on staff where we've had two
Speaker 1: top ten picks. But it'll be fun, man. We can
Speaker 1: We've got so many directions we can go and and
Speaker 1: add to the team. Yeah. But it's that's something that
Speaker 1: has Joe's talked about and I'm sure you guys talked
Speaker 1: about as his staff, is that you can go in
Speaker 1: different directions. Right, If you want to use that draft
Speaker 1: capital and go get a veteran player, you can do that.
Speaker 1: If you want to sit tight, you gotta have confidence
Speaker 1: where you guys are as his staff, especially after what
Speaker 1: you did in the draft last year. Joe said, potentially
Speaker 1: you get four dynamic players with those first four picks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you always want to get starters out of your first
Speaker 1: and second round picks, and with those four and and
Speaker 1: how high up they are, we feel really good about it.
Speaker 1: Um so do you and Joe d uh what's your
Speaker 1: sense with him here entering Draft three? You guys so
Speaker 1: tight develop a relationship long before he hired you his
Speaker 1: assistant d M. But kind of like where is his
Speaker 1: space right now? You know, Joe kind of stays the
Speaker 1: same man. He's steady. It just he's got this unwavering
Speaker 1: calmness about him of the process that that he's learned
Speaker 1: during his time in the NFL, from from the Ravens
Speaker 1: to his brief stint in Chicago and then transition into
Speaker 1: the Eagles and how successful they were with you know,
Speaker 1: he's got three super Bowl rings and an understanding of
Speaker 1: he's taking a little bit of each one of the
Speaker 1: places that he's been and had success and adjusted it.
Speaker 1: And like you said, you know, you always have to
Speaker 1: keep being able to be flexible with your philosophy and
Speaker 1: change as the league has and we're going to continue
Speaker 1: to do it. Can we go back to the two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty one draft class just a little bit because
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a couple of guys
Speaker 1: who didn't receive a lot of attention, but I know
Speaker 1: you guys have high hopes for and then times and
Speaker 1: Nosrel Dean and Jamie Sherwood Unfortunately Sherwood went down with
Speaker 1: the achilles. But what do you think about those guys
Speaker 1: because I think they're kind of overlooked when we think
Speaker 1: externally as far as the linebacker position is concerned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, the changes of the of the NFL,
Speaker 1: like we discussed from a passing standpoint of you need
Speaker 1: linebackers who can play in space and who have who
Speaker 1: have size and speed and length. And they're both converted
Speaker 1: safeties who were bigger body players in college and had
Speaker 1: showed the ability to play in space, and they have
Speaker 1: the physical traits and the mental traits for what we
Speaker 1: want for linebacker. And I think they're gonna both gonna
Speaker 1: continue to ascend just with time on task. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: didn't that's terrible what happened to Sherwood with with the achilles,
Speaker 1: but you know he's been in there. I've actually saw
Speaker 1: both those two guys this past week and in the
Speaker 1: weight room there and training, and their bodies are growing
Speaker 1: and maturing. And they're both too two year old guys
Speaker 1: who's who are going to continue to physically develop and
Speaker 1: they're looking more and more physically like NFL linebackers now.
Speaker 1: Like that, Zack Wilson said this offseason is gonna put
Speaker 1: on a couple of pounds that's natural. During year two,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about those four workies at
Speaker 1: the top of the draft last year. Not only maybe
Speaker 1: you can touch upon what they bring to the field,
Speaker 1: but also the bond they seemingly had developed and they
Speaker 1: also have natural leadership qualities. And beyond Wilson, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Elijah Vera Tucker. Do you get Elijah more? Five
Speaker 1: touchdowns and eleven games. Michael Carter leads you guys in rushing.
Speaker 1: He never went down first tackle, no doubt. I mean,
Speaker 1: he either he either breaks a tackle or makes somebody miss.
Speaker 1: That's a good combination to have for a running back.
Speaker 1: And and just like you saying, just speaking to to
Speaker 1: Michael specifically, he's he's got a ton of charisma and
Speaker 1: personality that I'm sure you guys have seen through throughout
Speaker 1: the interview process. He's people like are naturally drawn to
Speaker 1: him because he's so outgoing and his personality is is
Speaker 1: so he's on all the time, and he brings that
Speaker 1: energy to the to the backfield, and that personality kind
Speaker 1: of bleeds into his play. Like guys get fired up
Speaker 1: watching watching him on the field and break tackles and
Speaker 1: make people miss and finish him plays and kid gets
Speaker 1: up and he's got a huge smile on his face
Speaker 1: after everyone. So really, I mean we thought he was
Speaker 1: trending towards it, you know, thousand plus all purpose yards
Speaker 1: before the injury and hated it happened to him. Um,
Speaker 1: But just moving back up with Elijah. The Joe called
Speaker 1: Michael Carter the other day, young m c You like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like to We'll throw back to the rap game.
Speaker 1: Um yeah that Yeah. Moving on to Elijah, He's he's
Speaker 1: another one man personality wise that there. He's a live
Speaker 1: wire two and guys are naturally drawn to him. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard the documented stories about, you know,
Speaker 1: his relationship with A. J. Brown and DK Metcalf and
Speaker 1: how tight that group was in room was and like
Speaker 1: he was kind of the dude, like they're all all
Speaker 1: followed the like you you felt that early on in
Speaker 1: the whole process when he hit the field from rookie
Speaker 1: minicamp to O T A S. He's got this. He's
Speaker 1: got a vet presence to him, kind of an old
Speaker 1: soul mentality for a twenty two year old kid and
Speaker 1: who's just got a ton of talent. He can play outside,
Speaker 1: he can play inside, and you can do the gadget
Speaker 1: stuff with him that that we've done. Um, he's awesome.
Speaker 1: And then you I'm moving to a v T, you know,
Speaker 1: making a transition from college tackle to to guard, and
Speaker 1: he had played some guard early on. We saw it
Speaker 1: and felt like that this guy's got gonna be a
Speaker 1: high level, starting level player with you know, potential for
Speaker 1: honors down the road. He's a little more quiet and
Speaker 1: reserved out of the group in terms of personality wise,
Speaker 1: but he's he's always locked in. He's always business and
Speaker 1: and he comes ready and he's gonna play through a
Speaker 1: little small bumps and injuries and pushed through. I like.
Speaker 1: I like how they've developed like a strong bond that
Speaker 1: it's extends the field. It's off the field. You can
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, Actually ran into a couple of those
Speaker 1: guys at the out of NFL p A. They were
Speaker 1: out doing you know, some rookie stuff and and signing
Speaker 1: some cards, and they were in the same hotel the
Speaker 1: NFL play PA players were, And so you see it.
Speaker 1: It's like the zach and and E and MC walking together.
Speaker 1: Like the three amigos coming through the hotel and they
Speaker 1: had they were all beaming at smiles on their face
Speaker 1: and it's great to see them. So I know they're
Speaker 1: getting together as a group. You know, the offensive skill
Speaker 1: guys and and a lot of the offensive players in general,
Speaker 1: whether it's offensive line trying to get together, but specifically
Speaker 1: the offensive skill guys are gonna spend time whether it's
Speaker 1: in Florida or California, which is huge too, to build
Speaker 1: that bond in the chemistry and the developed. So when
Speaker 1: you hear that, because they have to get that together
Speaker 1: on their own, you guys can't push them to do
Speaker 1: that because that's the offseason rules. What's going on when
Speaker 1: you and Joe and company aren't hearing that, Hey, the
Speaker 1: guys are taking this upon themselves to get better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when you see the growth. Man, you feel it,
Speaker 1: and you it makes you feel even better about the
Speaker 1: guys who you've identified number one as a player from
Speaker 1: that talent level. But when you've hit on the character
Speaker 1: as well, you know, that's when these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: take us to new Heights as an organization because the
Speaker 1: bond that they've created together. Uh, speaking of New heights.
Speaker 1: Robert Salis said, expectations will be bigger for Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: in year two. You know that as well. But with
Speaker 1: that being said, he said, the process can't change right right,
Speaker 1: and you can't just you can't go from from A
Speaker 1: to C. You gotta go from hit A B before
Speaker 1: you get to see And a lot of times in
Speaker 1: the NFL, I think, especially when a quarterback gets taken
Speaker 1: number two, you know, there's high expectations. We have them,
Speaker 1: he has them, the staff has them, and so you
Speaker 1: have to understand that for you as a quarterback coming
Speaker 1: into the league, it's not gonna be instant coffee. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna be like b y U where you're throwing
Speaker 1: to two space. You know, the coverage is tighter, it's
Speaker 1: different to speed of the games different, And he's realized that,
Speaker 1: but he he wants to be so good and he
Speaker 1: wants to to get to that advanced level of of
Speaker 1: seeing the way Aaron Rodgers plays, and we go over
Speaker 1: those joint practices and he's spending that time talking to
Speaker 1: him and it's like he wants to jump from year
Speaker 1: one to year fourteen, like like Aaron's and it's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: just just hey, it's gonna come, it's gonna come. Let's
Speaker 1: take it in steps. Let's take every day. You're gonna
Speaker 1: continue to see the growth in yourself. So I should
Speaker 1: ask you who you're gonna take it for. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just getting about just in a very general sense, position groups.
Speaker 1: Where's the most steps in this class? Would you say
Speaker 1: I would think offensive line? Yeah, strong, strong offensive line group.
Speaker 1: Defensive defensive line group is really strong this year, just
Speaker 1: and looking at those two from from a volume standpoint,
Speaker 1: and then man, the receivers yesterday, the way those dudes
Speaker 1: ran there that second group that you know unofficially they
Speaker 1: had ten guys who rans up four four. So I
Speaker 1: think that was an all time record for a group, uh,
Speaker 1: in terms of number of guys under four four. So
Speaker 1: you know that really really popped yesterday. And just seeing
Speaker 1: that and the way those guys ran and performed, that's wild.
Speaker 1: How about sale using the term unicorn this unicorn this
Speaker 1: week talking about you got your premium positions. You at quarterback,
Speaker 1: you at cornerback, you got edge. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: if there is a guy so far above it one
Speaker 1: of these different positions than you, obviously consider taking them Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, you want to call it a unicorn,
Speaker 1: you wanna call an outlier. But if there's a rare
Speaker 1: trait or a rare talent at a different position, obviously
Speaker 1: it has to be something you're gonna consider. How do
Speaker 1: the interviews work? You get what here? We get forty five.
Speaker 1: You get twenty minutes for each one of them, but
Speaker 1: usually about two minutes of it is the transition of
Speaker 1: them going from sweet to sweet. So usually around eighteen
Speaker 1: the eighteen and a half minutes that they're actually in
Speaker 1: the seat in the room with you, what do you
Speaker 1: I know it's different for each guy, but what do
Speaker 1: you try to get done in that short amount of time?
Speaker 1: Because over the years, these guys have been so prepped
Speaker 1: for what they're gonna face. Yeah, yeah, that they go
Speaker 1: through the process and just like the the on the
Speaker 1: field training that they're doing, that a lot of guys
Speaker 1: are getting the off field training and preparing for those moments.
Speaker 1: So you want to try and break it down to
Speaker 1: just see it. Hey, let's let's get past the pre
Speaker 1: pre ordered stuff. Let's let's go let's see how authentic
Speaker 1: and genuine they are. Let's try and find out initially
Speaker 1: and quickly, what's our what drives them, what's our why,
Speaker 1: what's their what's their passion level, what's our love of
Speaker 1: the game, Because that's key, man, especially for the adversity
Speaker 1: that they're gonna face in the NFL and in a
Speaker 1: city like New York, and you know, the pressures and
Speaker 1: demands of being successful are huge, and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: on their shoulders. So you want to see how they
Speaker 1: handled that in the moment and try and get them
Speaker 1: off their spot a little bit. Show him some plays
Speaker 1: where they might not have given as much effort or
Speaker 1: showed as much strain or desire to get to the ball,
Speaker 1: and ask them why, kind of find out what's in
Speaker 1: that's what's in their core of of who they are.
Speaker 1: You know, are they willing to take some accountability and
Speaker 1: you know, responsibility of hey man, I you know I
Speaker 1: didn't play to this level on that play because of
Speaker 1: this and so. And let's be clear here the coaches
Speaker 1: are involved in these meetings because everybody's heard that Salah
Speaker 1: wasn't here, but he's part of these meetings, as are
Speaker 1: the position coaches. Yeah. Yeah, Microsoft teams is awesome. Our
Speaker 1: I T staff and Ryan O'Hare and our video staff
Speaker 1: did a great job of setting up everything from a
Speaker 1: communication standpoint. You know, the video is clear and got
Speaker 1: it up on the big screen in there. The players
Speaker 1: are able to communicate directly with the if the coaches
Speaker 1: is back in Flora Park or Roberts on every call
Speaker 1: and Joe's Joe, Joe and I are are either in
Speaker 1: there or on the calls. So gives you a lot
Speaker 1: of flexibility with that. And the coaches coaches run you know,
Speaker 1: the film aspect of it and talking about the on
Speaker 1: the field play. How huge was it for you guys.
Speaker 1: Not only is a personnel staff, but the coaches to
Speaker 1: be down there mobile for a full week with these guys,
Speaker 1: oh man, that the access to you know, there there's
Speaker 1: over a hundred players and and you get half of
Speaker 1: those on your roster for the week, so you get
Speaker 1: you get an opportunity to sit down and talk to
Speaker 1: him while while you're eating. You get to have meals
Speaker 1: with them. You you've got the position meetings with them,
Speaker 1: You've got team meetings with them. So just the access
Speaker 1: and the ability to to talk to them, you know
Speaker 1: about life and kind of see who they are as
Speaker 1: a person and not only as a player that was
Speaker 1: was cool. It's the first time I've ever done it
Speaker 1: in the league. So obviously you don't want to be
Speaker 1: in that position again have coach in it, but for
Speaker 1: one time it was it was incredible, and uh, you
Speaker 1: got to peel the layers back on a lot of
Speaker 1: guys and see who they see, who they truly are.
Speaker 1: What do you consider two here the next couple of months,
Speaker 1: the huge opportun only to continue building this foundation with
Speaker 1: the draft like you just hit after what we saw
Speaker 1: and Robert Sali's first UH season with the ammunition you
Speaker 1: guys have, is this a huge opportunity for this organization. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know every year is. But again, like you talked
Speaker 1: about the the financial flexibility that we have and then
Speaker 1: the draft capital and how we can we can change
Speaker 1: the course of the organization and how we can change
Speaker 1: the future is huge and it's exciting. And you know
Speaker 1: we talked about it. As a player of personnel staff man,
Speaker 1: you gotta wake up every day and just be excited
Speaker 1: about this that we've we've got a chance to change
Speaker 1: the Jets and change the culture and change our future.
Speaker 1: And so we're all looking forward to No pressure on
Speaker 1: you man it considering look at what you guys did
Speaker 1: in two thousands twenty one. There was no combine last year,
Speaker 1: so watch out for two thousand twenty two. It was
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