1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: We were presented by went Beat Betty is a team sport, 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: but together at win Bett Eric Ellen here at the 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: NFL Scouting combine with assistant GM rex Hogan. Great sin 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: you you know what I was thinking about before Brady 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Quinn was before me in the security line. He's a 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: guy that you have had a lot of experience with 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: going back to your days and Notre da Yah had 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: I ran into Brady here earlier this week, so it's 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: good catching up with him. We're staying in constant not 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: constant communication, but randomly throughout the year we had bouncing 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: football in life off each other. I've known him since 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: he was a high school player and recruiting him in 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame former Jet too for a stint. How 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: do you balance this because everybody in the NFL it's 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: a small circle. When you've been around as long as 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: you have and there's a lot of people want to 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: get in your ears. So how do you keep the 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: train moving? So to speak? Yeah, and just like you said, 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: to keep the train moving, it's there's times where guys 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: will say, hey, man, can I grab five ten minutes? Yeah, 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: walk with me. So it'll be a walk from the 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: hotel over to the stadium, or I'll have guys meet 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: me outside the stadium and I'll do the walk with 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: him and catch up that way. So there's constant requests 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: man between between agents and other different companies and you know, 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: everything everything football related. Somebody wants a chance to sit 27 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: down and talk to you, and there's a lot of 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: guys who are trying to get into football, and so 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: you just take time, make time for people and you know, 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: cultivate relationships and then hopefully gets some sleep when you 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: get back in New Jersey exactly. Hey, so I wanted 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: to ask you, and I do every year, but how 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: do you guys balance this in terms of free agency? 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Legal temporary period starts March fourteens. Free agency commences March sixteenth. 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: But you're here watching all these prospects as well, so 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: you gotta have a couple of balls up in there 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, we're We're really fortunate to 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: have a and just incredible group of support staff and 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: people who work with this with you know, Christina wedding 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: dance by Oski and how they coordinate everything for us 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: from the personnel operations aspect. So we are constantly jumping 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: from going from free agency, from pro to college and 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: so you're wearing different hats, and we've got great leadership 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: and and Greg neshma is our pro director and Chad 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Alexander is our director of player personnel, and then you've 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: got Phil Savage and John Carr. I mean, I can 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: go on and on about the whole group and and 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, highlight each one of them individually and what 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: they do and what they bring. So it helps me 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: and Joe obviously to have that kind of support system 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: as a group and how we can bounce from different 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: aspect of different aspects, knowing that they've got everything coordinated 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: and ready for us, so we can just hop in 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: the in the seat and we're ready for the next meeting. 55 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Where do you have to be in terms of free 56 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: agency before coming here, because you guys were having staff 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: meetings before the party for Indianapolis. Yeah, so you know, 58 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: just everybody getting on the same page in terms of 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: how we want to address free agency. You know, how 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: we how we want to you know, appropriate the the 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: amount of capital that we have, you know, financially, and 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, identify what's the strength of free agency, what's 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: the strength of the draft, and then you balance both 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: those and then you kind of attack it appropriately in 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: terms of where the value is in between each and 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: and the balance of each. Like you're talking about, you 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: basically have to have multiple plans of attack because you 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: can have a wish list, right, but until you get there, 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: you don't know how Actually those dominoes are gonna fall. Yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: because the franchise tag, that's that's the trump card, right yeah, 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: And that's base in the hole for teams, and once 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: they put that down, it changes everything. There's a domino 73 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: effect for it because all of a sudden, you might 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: have that guy up there, they get the franchise tag 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: on him. It's like, all right, we gotta move to 76 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: the next I wanted to ask you something that Joe 77 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: said way back when in January said, I think you're 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: constantly evolving. There's some core philosophies that you don't change, 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: but you have to be open to seeing how things 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: are and maybe adopting certain principles. Can you elaborate a 81 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: little bit on that, Yeah, I think you look at 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: the two teams that were in the Super Bowl this 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: year and uh, you know, you know the jokes about 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, the rams and don't worry about picks and 85 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: and how they've attacked it and how they chose to 86 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: build it. And then do you look at the Bengals 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: and and how they've they built their roster and how 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: they built their team and we're able to have success 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: and get to the point and with a quick turnaround 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: over two years. You know, they've got some incredible skill players. 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: You know, Joe Burrow is playing at a very high level, 92 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: and they did some things defensively through free agency and 93 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: upgraded their team quickly. So I think we've talked about 94 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: that and you know, as a group and our different 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: ideas and concepts and philosophies of how do we how 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: do we try and get to that level? You know, 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: what are these teams doing? What what can we take 98 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: from what they've done, what we can learn, what can 99 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: we learn and then how to you know, change our 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: philosophy and or adapt and improve. What do you think 101 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: of the outcomes of the playoffs? Not the Rams being 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion or the way those two teams got there, 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: which you just talked about, but how close everything was 104 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: amongst the group of teams. When you're seeing those outcomes 105 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: coming down to either over time or the last two 106 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: or three minutes of the game. What does that say 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: about where the NFL is right now? Yeah, I think 108 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: it speaks volumes of how the game is transitioning to 109 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: just such offensive explosions, right. I mean that there's so 110 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: many players coming in from the college level. Now of 111 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: the teams are playing like almost glorified seven on seven. 112 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: There's so many receivers who are so skilled. There's quarterbacks 113 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: that are so skilled coming to the NFL, and it's 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: transitioning over you know, you see teams running those r 115 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: p O s and you know, it's taking some spread 116 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: concepts from college and building it in and blending it 117 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: in with the pro game, and so it those guys 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: have taken off. I mean you watch that, uh you 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: know the Bills in the in the Chiefs game. That's 120 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the most entertaining games, if not 121 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: the most entertaining game of all time. So wow, Yeah, 122 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: I'd have to agree. Um, people in Buffalo obviously upset 123 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: about that, and the Kansas City had it happened to them. 124 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: They get a big lead and they were not able 125 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: to hold onto it today forementioned. Uh, Joey Burrow, I 126 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting something that Robert Tellis said when 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: he addressed the media this week, saying, hey, you can 128 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: do a lot of things to help the young quarterback 129 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: in that includes addressing needs on the defensive side of 130 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, and the Rams did that too, you know, 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: making some significant moves and trades and and going out 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: and getting von Miller. Is that that final piece for 133 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: a defense to to add pressure, and you know they 134 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: and with match with Aaron Donald and the rest of 135 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: that front. You know, when it came time to for 136 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: the to put it on the defensive back and win 137 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: the game, the stars played like stars and made it happen. 138 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: How much better her spot are you guys in this 139 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: year that maybe last year at this time, just in 140 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: terms of scheme, familiarity, familiarity with the coaching staffs, the likes, 141 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: the dislikes and communications batters. Yeah, it's it's been a significant, 142 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: you know change. You know, you go from you know, 143 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: different defensive and offensive philosophies from the previous staff and 144 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: and then so you're you're learning, you're starting over and 145 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: just getting that full season under your belt and just 146 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: knowing knowing the coaches and and hearing their what their 147 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: thoughts are about players and how they evaluate and their 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: ideas of you know, what we're doing schematically and concepts. 149 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: We're all on the same page and so we continue 150 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: to grow as a player of personnel staff because of 151 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: the meetings from them, so we can see it through 152 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: their eyes of what they want and it just helps 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: us build the team that that they want and that 154 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: we want together. You guys drafted very talented players. We 155 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: know that, but what did you think about the way 156 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Robert Sala and his staff went about developing them When 157 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: we talk about this success of that two thousand one 158 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: draft class, Yeah, we loved what they did with it, man, 159 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: And that's what we talked about entering is like, hey, 160 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: we know we're gonna be a super young team and 161 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the biggest key is going to be developing these young 162 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: guys us and that there's gonna be growing pains. 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If you are someone you know has a 181 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: gambling problem called one D seven zero seven one one seven. 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: With the Tampa Bay game, Uh, tell you about this 183 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: team late in the season and where the direction is headed. Yeah, 184 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think especially with the that Zach played 185 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: and you can see him, you know, trending up after 186 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: the after the injury, and how the game slowed down 187 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: for him, and you know he's protecting the ball and 188 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: getting the ball out quickly and went over a hundred 189 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: and sixty passes without an interception. So just for him specifically. 190 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: It was great to see that improvement, but you saw 191 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the confidence and the team grow, especially with a game 192 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: like that against reigning world champions and Tom Brady, and 193 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, we went all in for it. We went 194 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: all into to get it and finish it, and uh, 195 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: we learned from it. We learned as a staff, we learned, 196 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: our coaching staff learned. I think we learned as an 197 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: organization that you know, Robert's gonna go like he says 198 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: he does, and it just we're gonna go all in, 199 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: go after it. I talked to Phil Savage about that 200 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: game specifically, and he said, it's fifty eight minutes we played, 201 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: or maybe fifty nine plus minutes of where we are going. 202 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's a great description, Uh Phil, you 203 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: know because we we talked about that as a staff, 204 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: and you know, we have our our weekly up ups 205 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,239 Speaker 1: after the game and we're like, that was an exposure 206 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: of what we we can be as a team in 207 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: two and moving forward. What do you think about the 208 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: financial flexibility paired with the draft capital as you guys 209 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: approach these critical couple of months, because I think it's 210 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit under fifty million if it keeps 211 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: this four and ten overall selections, it's gonna be less 212 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: than that, will be less than forty million, but obviously 213 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: you have some room to maneuver. Yeah. Yeah, we feel 214 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: really good about that. And you know, we've we constantly 215 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: as a as a player personnel staff, have to look 216 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: towards the future, and you know, we've got to build 217 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: in the moment, but we also have to prepare for 218 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow too, and so we've done that, like like you 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: describe with what we have, the the financial flexibility, with 220 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: the cat flexibility and the way we've managed it, and 221 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: then the way we've accumulate a draft capital and the 222 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: number of picks that we have and and their high 223 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: picks and they they they're very valuable to us as 224 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: an organization to be able to get some young guys 225 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: with high end talent who love football, who love the 226 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: game and are passionate about it, and gonna add to 227 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: the locker room and and hopefully increase the victories. You've 228 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: been around a long time, have you ever been in 229 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: this situation in this seat where you do have the 230 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: not only the two top ten, but the four in 231 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: the top thirty eight for the Jets, franchise. It's I 232 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: think the only third time since nineteen seventy when you 233 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: have four picks in the top forty. Yeah. No, I'm 234 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: eighteen years in the league and we've never I've never 235 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: been a part of a draft where we've had this 236 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: amount of capital at this type of high end, haven't. 237 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: I haven't even been on staff where we've had two 238 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: top ten picks. But it'll be fun, man. We can 239 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: We've got so many directions we can go and and 240 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: add to the team. Yeah. But it's that's something that 241 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: has Joe's talked about and I'm sure you guys talked 242 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: about as his staff, is that you can go in 243 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: different directions. Right, If you want to use that draft 244 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: capital and go get a veteran player, you can do that. 245 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: If you want to sit tight, you gotta have confidence 246 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: where you guys are as his staff, especially after what 247 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: you did in the draft last year. Joe said, potentially 248 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: you get four dynamic players with those first four picks. Yeah, 249 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: you always want to get starters out of your first 250 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: and second round picks, and with those four and and 251 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: how high up they are, we feel really good about it. 252 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: Um so do you and Joe d uh what's your 253 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: sense with him here entering Draft three? You guys so 254 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: tight develop a relationship long before he hired you his 255 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: assistant d M. But kind of like where is his 256 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: space right now? You know, Joe kind of stays the 257 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: same man. He's steady. It just he's got this unwavering 258 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: calmness about him of the process that that he's learned 259 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: during his time in the NFL, from from the Ravens 260 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: to his brief stint in Chicago and then transition into 261 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles and how successful they were with you know, 262 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: he's got three super Bowl rings and an understanding of 263 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: he's taking a little bit of each one of the 264 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: places that he's been and had success and adjusted it. 265 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: And like you said, you know, you always have to 266 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: keep being able to be flexible with your philosophy and 267 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: change as the league has and we're going to continue 268 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: to do it. Can we go back to the two 269 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: thousand twenty one draft class just a little bit because 270 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a couple of guys 271 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: who didn't receive a lot of attention, but I know 272 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: you guys have high hopes for and then times and 273 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: Nosrel Dean and Jamie Sherwood Unfortunately Sherwood went down with 274 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: the achilles. But what do you think about those guys 275 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: because I think they're kind of overlooked when we think 276 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: externally as far as the linebacker position is concerned. Yeah, 277 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: because you know, the changes of the of the NFL, 278 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: like we discussed from a passing standpoint of you need 279 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: linebackers who can play in space and who have who 280 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: have size and speed and length. And they're both converted 281 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: safeties who were bigger body players in college and had 282 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: showed the ability to play in space, and they have 283 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the physical traits and the mental traits for what we 284 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: want for linebacker. And I think they're gonna both gonna 285 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: continue to ascend just with time on task. Yeah, you know, 286 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: didn't that's terrible what happened to Sherwood with with the achilles, 287 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: but you know he's been in there. I've actually saw 288 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: both those two guys this past week and in the 289 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: weight room there and training, and their bodies are growing 290 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: and maturing. And they're both too two year old guys 291 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: who's who are going to continue to physically develop and 292 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: they're looking more and more physically like NFL linebackers now. 293 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Like that, Zack Wilson said this offseason is gonna put 294 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: on a couple of pounds that's natural. During year two, 295 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about those four workies at 296 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: the top of the draft last year. Not only maybe 297 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: you can touch upon what they bring to the field, 298 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: but also the bond they seemingly had developed and they 299 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: also have natural leadership qualities. And beyond Wilson, I'm talking 300 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: about Elijah Vera Tucker. Do you get Elijah more? Five 301 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: touchdowns and eleven games. Michael Carter leads you guys in rushing. 302 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: He never went down first tackle, no doubt. I mean, 303 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: he either he either breaks a tackle or makes somebody miss. 304 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: That's a good combination to have for a running back. 305 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: And and just like you saying, just speaking to to 306 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Michael specifically, he's he's got a ton of charisma and 307 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: personality that I'm sure you guys have seen through throughout 308 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: the interview process. He's people like are naturally drawn to 309 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: him because he's so outgoing and his personality is is 310 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: so he's on all the time, and he brings that 311 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: energy to the to the backfield, and that personality kind 312 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: of bleeds into his play. Like guys get fired up 313 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: watching watching him on the field and break tackles and 314 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: make people miss and finish him plays and kid gets 315 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: up and he's got a huge smile on his face 316 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: after everyone. So really, I mean we thought he was 317 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: trending towards it, you know, thousand plus all purpose yards 318 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: before the injury and hated it happened to him. Um, 319 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: But just moving back up with Elijah. The Joe called 320 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Michael Carter the other day, young m c You like that, Yeah, 321 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I like to We'll throw back to the rap game. 322 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: Um yeah that Yeah. Moving on to Elijah, He's he's 323 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: another one man personality wise that there. He's a live 324 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: wire two and guys are naturally drawn to him. And 325 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard the documented stories about, you know, 326 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: his relationship with A. J. Brown and DK Metcalf and 327 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: how tight that group was in room was and like 328 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: he was kind of the dude, like they're all all 329 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: followed the like you you felt that early on in 330 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: the whole process when he hit the field from rookie 331 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: minicamp to O T A S. He's got this. He's 332 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: got a vet presence to him, kind of an old 333 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: soul mentality for a twenty two year old kid and 334 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: who's just got a ton of talent. He can play outside, 335 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: he can play inside, and you can do the gadget 336 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: stuff with him that that we've done. Um, he's awesome. 337 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: And then you I'm moving to a v T, you know, 338 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: making a transition from college tackle to to guard, and 339 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: he had played some guard early on. We saw it 340 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: and felt like that this guy's got gonna be a 341 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: high level, starting level player with you know, potential for 342 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: honors down the road. He's a little more quiet and 343 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: reserved out of the group in terms of personality wise, 344 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: but he's he's always locked in. He's always business and 345 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: and he comes ready and he's gonna play through a 346 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: little small bumps and injuries and pushed through. I like. 347 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: I like how they've developed like a strong bond that 348 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: it's extends the field. It's off the field. You can 349 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, Actually ran into a couple of those 350 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: guys at the out of NFL p A. They were 351 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: out doing you know, some rookie stuff and and signing 352 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: some cards, and they were in the same hotel the 353 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: NFL play PA players were, And so you see it. 354 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: It's like the zach and and E and MC walking together. 355 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 1: Like the three amigos coming through the hotel and they 356 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: had they were all beaming at smiles on their face 357 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: and it's great to see them. So I know they're 358 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: getting together as a group. You know, the offensive skill 359 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: guys and and a lot of the offensive players in general, 360 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: whether it's offensive line trying to get together, but specifically 361 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: the offensive skill guys are gonna spend time whether it's 362 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: in Florida or California, which is huge too, to build 363 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: that bond in the chemistry and the developed. So when 364 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: you hear that, because they have to get that together 365 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: on their own, you guys can't push them to do 366 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: that because that's the offseason rules. What's going on when 367 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: you and Joe and company aren't hearing that, Hey, the 368 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: guys are taking this upon themselves to get better. Yeah, 369 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: that's when you see the growth. Man, you feel it, 370 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: and you it makes you feel even better about the 371 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: guys who you've identified number one as a player from 372 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: that talent level. But when you've hit on the character 373 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: as well, you know, that's when these guys are gonna 374 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: take us to new Heights as an organization because the 375 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: bond that they've created together. Uh, speaking of New heights. 376 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Robert Salis said, expectations will be bigger for Zach Wilson 377 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: in year two. You know that as well. But with 378 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: that being said, he said, the process can't change right right, 379 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: and you can't just you can't go from from A 380 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: to C. You gotta go from hit A B before 381 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: you get to see And a lot of times in 382 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: the NFL, I think, especially when a quarterback gets taken 383 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: number two, you know, there's high expectations. We have them, 384 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: he has them, the staff has them, and so you 385 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: have to understand that for you as a quarterback coming 386 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: into the league, it's not gonna be instant coffee. It's 387 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: not gonna be like b y U where you're throwing 388 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: to two space. You know, the coverage is tighter, it's 389 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: different to speed of the games different, And he's realized that, 390 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: but he he wants to be so good and he 391 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: wants to to get to that advanced level of of 392 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: seeing the way Aaron Rodgers plays, and we go over 393 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: those joint practices and he's spending that time talking to 394 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: him and it's like he wants to jump from year 395 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: one to year fourteen, like like Aaron's and it's like, hey, man, 396 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: just just hey, it's gonna come, it's gonna come. Let's 397 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: take it in steps. Let's take every day. You're gonna 398 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: continue to see the growth in yourself. So I should 399 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: ask you who you're gonna take it for. No, I'm 400 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: just getting about just in a very general sense, position groups. 401 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Where's the most steps in this class? Would you say 402 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: I would think offensive line? Yeah, strong, strong offensive line group. 403 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Defensive defensive line group is really strong this year, just 404 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: and looking at those two from from a volume standpoint, 405 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: and then man, the receivers yesterday, the way those dudes 406 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: ran there that second group that you know unofficially they 407 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: had ten guys who rans up four four. So I 408 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: think that was an all time record for a group, uh, 409 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: in terms of number of guys under four four. So 410 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: you know that really really popped yesterday. And just seeing 411 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: that and the way those guys ran and performed, that's wild. 412 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: How about sale using the term unicorn this unicorn this 413 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: week talking about you got your premium positions. You at quarterback, 414 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: you at cornerback, you got edge. But with that being said, 415 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: if there is a guy so far above it one 416 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: of these different positions than you, obviously consider taking them Yeah, 417 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, you want to call it a unicorn, 418 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: you wanna call an outlier. But if there's a rare 419 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: trait or a rare talent at a different position, obviously 420 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: it has to be something you're gonna consider. How do 421 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: the interviews work? You get what here? We get forty five. 422 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: You get twenty minutes for each one of them, but 423 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: usually about two minutes of it is the transition of 424 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: them going from sweet to sweet. So usually around eighteen 425 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: the eighteen and a half minutes that they're actually in 426 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: the seat in the room with you, what do you 427 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: I know it's different for each guy, but what do 428 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: you try to get done in that short amount of time? 429 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: Because over the years, these guys have been so prepped 430 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: for what they're gonna face. Yeah, yeah, that they go 431 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: through the process and just like the the on the 432 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: field training that they're doing, that a lot of guys 433 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: are getting the off field training and preparing for those moments. 434 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: So you want to try and break it down to 435 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: just see it. Hey, let's let's get past the pre 436 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: pre ordered stuff. Let's let's go let's see how authentic 437 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: and genuine they are. Let's try and find out initially 438 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: and quickly, what's our what drives them, what's our why, 439 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: what's their what's their passion level, what's our love of 440 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: the game, Because that's key, man, especially for the adversity 441 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: that they're gonna face in the NFL and in a 442 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: city like New York, and you know, the pressures and 443 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: demands of being successful are huge, and they're gonna be 444 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: on their shoulders. So you want to see how they 445 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: handled that in the moment and try and get them 446 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: off their spot a little bit. Show him some plays 447 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: where they might not have given as much effort or 448 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: showed as much strain or desire to get to the ball, 449 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: and ask them why, kind of find out what's in 450 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: that's what's in their core of of who they are. 451 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: You know, are they willing to take some accountability and 452 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, responsibility of hey man, I you know I 453 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: didn't play to this level on that play because of 454 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: this and so. And let's be clear here the coaches 455 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: are involved in these meetings because everybody's heard that Salah 456 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: wasn't here, but he's part of these meetings, as are 457 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: the position coaches. Yeah. Yeah, Microsoft teams is awesome. Our 458 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: I T staff and Ryan O'Hare and our video staff 459 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: did a great job of setting up everything from a 460 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: communication standpoint. You know, the video is clear and got 461 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: it up on the big screen in there. The players 462 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: are able to communicate directly with the if the coaches 463 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: is back in Flora Park or Roberts on every call 464 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: and Joe's Joe, Joe and I are are either in 465 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: there or on the calls. So gives you a lot 466 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: of flexibility with that. And the coaches coaches run you know, 467 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: the film aspect of it and talking about the on 468 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: the field play. How huge was it for you guys. 469 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: Not only is a personnel staff, but the coaches to 470 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: be down there mobile for a full week with these guys, 471 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: oh man, that the access to you know, there there's 472 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: over a hundred players and and you get half of 473 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: those on your roster for the week, so you get 474 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: you get an opportunity to sit down and talk to 475 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: him while while you're eating. You get to have meals 476 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: with them. You you've got the position meetings with them, 477 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: You've got team meetings with them. So just the access 478 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: and the ability to to talk to them, you know 479 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: about life and kind of see who they are as 480 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: a person and not only as a player that was 481 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: was cool. It's the first time I've ever done it 482 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: in the league. So obviously you don't want to be 483 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: in that position again have coach in it, but for 484 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: one time it was it was incredible, and uh, you 485 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: got to peel the layers back on a lot of 486 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: guys and see who they see, who they truly are. 487 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: What do you consider two here the next couple of months, 488 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: the huge opportun only to continue building this foundation with 489 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: the draft like you just hit after what we saw 490 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: and Robert Sali's first UH season with the ammunition you 491 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: guys have, is this a huge opportunity for this organization. Yeah, 492 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: you know every year is. But again, like you talked 493 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: about the the financial flexibility that we have and then 494 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: the draft capital and how we can we can change 495 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: the course of the organization and how we can change 496 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: the future is huge and it's exciting. And you know 497 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: we talked about it. As a player of personnel staff man, 498 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: you gotta wake up every day and just be excited 499 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: about this that we've we've got a chance to change 500 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: the Jets and change the culture and change our future. 501 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: And so we're all looking forward to No pressure on 502 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: you man it considering look at what you guys did 503 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: in two thousands twenty one. There was no combine last year, 504 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: so watch out for two thousand twenty two. It was 505 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: great catching up with you. Thank you so much. Absolutely 506 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 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