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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with

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Speaker 2: Carmeie and me. Congrats to the reigning national champs, Michigan

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Speaker 2: for the huge upset today, taken down number two Ohio

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Speaker 2: State this morning.

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Speaker 3: I know I had I picked Ohose State and it

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Speaker 3: paid me to do so.

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Speaker 2: But there he just walked in the room rocking. Is

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Speaker 2: Michigan hands in the air. I mean I would celebrate.

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Speaker 2: I feel like all the Michigan fans are on like

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Speaker 2: a different level of high today.

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Speaker 4: I know what that is. That's the pecan pie that's

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Speaker 4: been sitting out there since Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I mean there's a been precious little to

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Speaker 5: celebrate this season from Michigan.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. Happy for you, Martin.

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Speaker 5: What my attention is already on the Arizona State Arizona game,

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Speaker 5: the Territorial Cup.

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Speaker 3: It's just so that's as he was up seven. Nothing.

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Speaker 6: I feel like.

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Speaker 2: In these rivalry like weekend games, any can happen, similar

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Speaker 2: to like a divisional game, like a different level of

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Speaker 2: just like we're it doesn't matter it doesn't matter, your ranking,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter, your history of the season.

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Speaker 5: George George Tach went to eight overtime ite. I have

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Speaker 5: so many issues with the college football overtime. That can

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Speaker 5: be another thing for another time. But like every over,

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Speaker 5: every two point try, set of two point tries doesn't

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Speaker 5: need to be its own overtime. It's two plays and

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Speaker 5: then we have to like go across the field. You

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Speaker 5: have to wait, and everybody gets the time out, and

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Speaker 5: then Kirby Smart must be stopped.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, it's been a long weekend.

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Speaker 2: I hope e'veon had an amazing, happy, belly full Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: I went to three different turkey days. Carl I did

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Speaker 2: like a friends giving at Cynthia's. Forty people at the

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Speaker 2: curries at my cousins, deserted, the in laws.

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Speaker 6: It was a lot I had. It was a lot.

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Speaker 5: This is the first Thanksgiving and this is the third

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Speaker 5: year so in three years that I haven't been in

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Speaker 5: Detroit for Thanksgiving. I usually I'm at the Lions there.

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Speaker 5: So I actually got to spend Thanksgiving with my fiance.

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Speaker 7: Liked it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was so nice. It was so nice,

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Speaker 3: just the two of you.

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Speaker 6: Yes, no idea, what that's like, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 6: so nice.

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Speaker 5: I don't either, Like every holiday growing up was always

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Speaker 5: a ton of people. And then I started working in football,

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Speaker 5: and I've missed Thanksgiving with and I've usually been at

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Speaker 5: a game on Thanksgiving. Uh, and so this one, this

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Speaker 5: one was just like, oh, okay, why don't we just

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Speaker 5: cook and have a nice quiet day.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

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Speaker 6: Love that for you.

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Speaker 2: Also, can we just give a shout out to the

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Speaker 2: star of the show at Thanksgiving? And it's hands down,

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Speaker 2: mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 3: It's stuffing. Oh no, it's stuffing.

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Speaker 6: Dude, potatoes.

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Speaker 2: But like I'm obsessed with potatoes, hash baked mash. However

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Speaker 3: Mash stick and a stew.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Lord of the Rings. Ohtos, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I'm terrified wild bat big Bears fan, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have forty nine Ers reporter Tracy Sandler joining us from

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Speaker 2: Chicago's WGN sports reporter Caitlin Sharky, who was in Detroit

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Speaker 2: at that Thanksgiving game, we'll be joining us an hour

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Speaker 2: Technical producer Christopher Fette Martin Wise who was on Cloud

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Speaker 2: nine as a Michigan fan at the news desk. He'll

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Speaker 2: keep you updating all the college football action as it

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Speaker 2: goes down today. But Carmen, it was a big day

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Speaker 2: in Chicago yesterday. The Bears officially fired head coach Matt

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Speaker 2: Eberfus on Friday.

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Speaker 6: Honestly to no one's surprise.

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Speaker 2: They had lost six straight games, with the last three

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Speaker 2: losses being one possession games, and the nail in the

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Speaker 2: coffin was that disaster ending on Thanksgiving in Detroit on

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Speaker 2: third down with a timeout left, just needing a field.

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Speaker 6: Goal to tie the game.

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Speaker 2: We saw an ultimate breakdown by the Bears and it

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Speaker 2: looked like there was zero urgency and so much confusion

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Speaker 2: in that moment. Kaylea got sacked on second down with

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Speaker 2: call a timeout, tied the game with a field goal,

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Speaker 2: and that whole situation as a fan just kind of

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Speaker 2: made zero sense as to what was happening.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it needs through just a fan.

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Speaker 6: I think it made Why didn't they call the time out?

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Speaker 5: I had I I had coaches for the Lions texting

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Speaker 5: me like, what did they just do what just happened?

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a joke. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe they're running the clock. Then they're gonna like the

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Speaker 5: The Turkey like celebration, which is always a huge thing

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Speaker 5: in Detroit. But like, this was Detroit's first win in

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Speaker 5: a decade on Thanksgiving. They have not one on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: And but like Jared Goff and Amana Saint Brown and

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Speaker 5: Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery, they were all like you

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Speaker 5: could tell postgame they were just in shock. Yeah, they

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Speaker 5: were like what just happens? Every was like what was said?

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 5: Like for something that should have been like really happy

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah they just handed us the game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah they really did.

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Speaker 5: Uh there's yeah, Uh, there's a lot here, Yes, there's

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Speaker 3: It don't get bad.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe because Eberflus had been in the seat

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Speaker 2: we're gonna give you one last chance, but franchise quarterback

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Speaker 5: This is not something that is unique. This is yes,

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Speaker 5: the Bears just did something they'd never done, but this

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Speaker 5: is perpetuating a cycle that has happened for almost a

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Speaker 5: And that was something that you could kind of hang

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Speaker 5: when the Bears won three games two seasons ago, they

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Speaker 5: go up to seven games last year.

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Speaker 3: They went seven games last year.

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Speaker 5: All throughout that the locker room was together, the defense

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Speaker 5: despite the fact that Mattieberflus then had to fire Luke Getzi,

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Speaker 3: And then do it again.

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Speaker 5: I just this was something where Mattie Raflues lost the

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Speaker 5: Washington and it wasn't the Hail Mary. It was the

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Speaker 5: play before. And I remember talking to people about this,

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Speaker 5: and then hearing players come out about this, especially Kevin Byrd,

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Speaker 5: all of these defensive guys were like, why why didn't

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Speaker 3: Up the Hail Mary.

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Speaker 5: And then eber Flus defended that to the media, which

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Speaker 5: he doubled down on it, and we're all left thinking, like.

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Speaker 3: All right, we can't trust you anymore.

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Speaker 5: So you see the Bears defense too. From that point on,

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Speaker 5: it's tangible how much worse they had gotten, how much

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Speaker 5: that was essentially the difference here. And then these late

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Speaker 5: he's one thousand percent right.

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Speaker 3: Players over and over again.

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Speaker 5: We saw Caleb Williams against the Green Bay Packers, yet

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Speaker 5: he had a game winning drive right there, and then

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Speaker 5: that field goal gets blocked against the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Same thing.

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Speaker 5: You force overtime, you like by getting an on site kick,

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Speaker 5: Caleb can't do much. Like there's no easy options on

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Speaker 5: the Chicago offense. It's gotten a little bit easier with

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Speaker 5: Thomas Brown. But then this game where you're so woefully

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Speaker 5: unprepared for something that you should be practicing in practice.

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Speaker 3: These are late game situations.

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Speaker 5: Every team has a situational period or two every practice.

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Speaker 5: This is the kind of stuff that you practice and

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Speaker 5: to be so ill equipped time and time again in

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Speaker 5: these situations, it was just it was completely catastrophic. But like,

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Speaker 5: the dysfunction goes so far beyond the head coaching position

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's this is now, this is a pattern.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a pattern.

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Speaker 5: But the thing is, though George McCaskey is kind of

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Speaker 2: And also I think this all ends on what direction

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Speaker 3: The time for that was before you drafted Caleb.

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Speaker 5: That is the biggest part here, where you are building

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Speaker 2: He's he's going to go through a whole new system,

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing that healthy.

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Speaker 6: Just finish the season healthy.

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing it's always been.

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Speaker 3: Could tell he was the future. That is all I

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Speaker 6: Did you see that? Is he the future?

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Speaker 6: There's so much room to continue.

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Speaker 5: Maybe because you also think that there is a possibility

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Speaker 5: That's not how this works, no, Usually, I all you

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Speaker 2: with Sam Donald kind of get Jones ready for next season,

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Speaker 2: prepare him for that next real chance if there is

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Speaker 2: another one to be as starting quarterback. But also now

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Speaker 2: he's around a functioning coaching staff with Kevin O'Connell, who's

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Speaker 2: from the Sean McVay coaching tree. I just I see

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Speaker 2: a lot of positives here, both for Daniel Jones and

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Speaker 2: the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is them preparing for the fact that Sam

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Speaker 5: Donald probably is going to go elsewhere. Yes, and also

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Speaker 5: you don't even like for what he would cost at

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Speaker 5: this point now to resign him. The Vikings don't want

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Speaker 5: to do that because we have JJ McCarthy. Yes, j

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Speaker 5: J McCarthy is still going to be their starter next year.

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Speaker 5: That is who they want. They're developing him.

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Speaker 6: House has recovery.

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Speaker 3: It's good but okay, I feel like.

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Speaker 6: I scheduled to be like back to normal when.

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Speaker 3: There haven't been a whole lot of okay. Like he's

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Speaker 3: you know, he was shut down for the season.

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Speaker 5: Ye, like he's he's doing his rehab. We haven't heard

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Speaker 5: anything but good things. He's kind on the sideline, he's

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Speaker 5: been around the tea. Yeah, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: That's great news. He's going to be your starter. You

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Speaker 5: spent a first round pick on him, Yes, so you're

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Speaker 5: going to go with him later. But now, I mean,

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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is on the practice squad, so full disclosure,

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Speaker 5: anybody can sign him. Yes, that is, he can be

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Speaker 5: signed to. He has to be signed to an active roster.

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Speaker 5: This is a huge testament to Kevin O'Connell and then

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Speaker 5: the Vikings having the wherewithal to be like, all right,

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Speaker 5: we can develop him and he can be the backup

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Speaker 5: in case anything goes wrong with JJ next season, because

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Speaker 5: we're not going to be able to pay Sam Donald

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Speaker 5: or any but we're still probably going to need a

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Speaker 5: high end backup.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've seen how important it is to have a

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Speaker 2: legit backup.

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Speaker 5: And I mean Sam Donald was always going to be

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Speaker 5: a bridge. He wasn't quite a backup. He was always

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Speaker 5: going to start the season for the Minnesota Vikings, regardless

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Speaker 5: of j McCarthy was healthy or not. But now when

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Speaker 5: you have this whole year of development and red shirt

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Speaker 5: year for JJ, you do think that, all right, probably

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Speaker 5: next season you're going to want to start him right away,

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Speaker 5: but you want a high end backup to kind of

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Speaker 5: be there, and then Daniel Zones is going to get

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Speaker 5: to learn from who has now become like kind of

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Speaker 5: the quarterback guru. I joked on Blue Sky. Actually yeah,

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Speaker 5: because I'm on Blue Sky now that the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 5: are the school for kids, the Kevin O'Connell school for

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Speaker 5: kids who can't Q be good and do other things

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Speaker 5: good Zoolander, Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: But that's what this is. That's what And like kudos.

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Speaker 5: To Daniel Jones too for having the wherewithal of being like,

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Speaker 5: all right, things are not going well. I need to

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Speaker 5: like kind of strip this down to basics, yes, and

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Speaker 5: I need to put myself in a situation and in

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Speaker 5: an environment that is going to foster my growth and development,

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Speaker 5: and that is the Minnesota Vikings. That is Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 5: and he can rehabilitate anybody's Like you saw what he

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Speaker 5: was doing with backups when Kirk Cousins went down last year,

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Speaker 5: and how he made Josh Dobbs look and all that,

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Speaker 5: like that got Josh jobs another job.

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Speaker 6: Yes it did.

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Speaker 3: It's a really great story.

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Speaker 5: I like it a lot for Daniel Jones especially, and

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Speaker 5: I do think that there is only upside for the

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Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings two at the very like, at the very least,

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Speaker 5: they're going to have this guy in there right now.

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Speaker 3: Yep, as a high end backup.

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Speaker 5: At the best, they will have a backup, a high

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Speaker 5: end backup next year for under JJ.

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Speaker 6: McCarthy and who we saw, like Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't had a great career, but he had a

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Speaker 2: good season. He led the Giants to a playoff win.

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Speaker 3: That's it over the Minnesota Vikings by the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like got his big contract after that. So

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Speaker 2: there could be there's potential there with the right coach

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Speaker 2: and organizational fit. And I do believe this is the

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Speaker 2: best fit for Daniel Jones. But now let's check in

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Speaker 2: with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

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Speaker 10: Got all types of college football games going on right now.

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Speaker 10: But I'm going to talk about the ones that have

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Speaker 10: just ended. Fifteenth thrand South Carolina be Clemson a twelve

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Speaker 10: frand clubs at seventeen to fourteen. Freshman Gamecock quarterback Leonora

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Speaker 10: Sellers had a twenty yard touchdown run with a and

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Speaker 10: eight seconds left. South Carolina started the year three and three,

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Speaker 10: now have won six in a row. Michigan beat Ohio

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Speaker 10: State thirteen to ten. The Wolverines were twenty three and

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Speaker 10: a half one underdogs. First year head coach Sharon Moore

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Speaker 10: now two oh It gets to Ohio State in his career.

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Speaker 10: Ohio State head coach Ryan Day falls to one and four,

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Speaker 10: also suffers his first loss to a ranked opponent. This

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Speaker 10: is what it sounded like on the Ohio State radio broadcast.

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Speaker 9: Will Howard sets up to throw. Howard looks, Howard steps up,

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Speaker 9: takes off throws and it's incomplete and that's the ballgame.

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Speaker 9: He throw it out on the right flat and he

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Speaker 9: had pressure all around him. Will Howard and Michigan is

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Speaker 9: in a position to pull off a gigantic upset and

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Speaker 9: what appears it will be their fourth straight win over

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Speaker 9: Ohio State.

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Speaker 10: Ye are also in active college football games going on

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Speaker 10: right now. Six rank. Miami is leading Syracuse twenty one

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Speaker 10: to seven. Syracuse just scored a touchdown there with eleven

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Speaker 10: minutes left in the second In the second quarter, SMU

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Speaker 10: the ninth three team in the nation, where they twenty

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Speaker 10: one to nothing lead over Cow with eleven minutes left

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Speaker 10: in the second half.

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Speaker 9: There.

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Speaker 10: At the end of the first quarter. In the iron

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Speaker 10: Ball Auburn and Alabama, the Crimson tie with a seven

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Speaker 10: to nothing lead over the Tigers, Arizona and Arizona State.

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Speaker 10: The Sun doubles with a twenty one nothing lead over Arizona.

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Speaker 10: Kenny Dillingham is not playing around today.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not.

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Speaker 10: I guess he knows exactly knows what this means is

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Speaker 10: it's rivalry, Rek, and that's one of them. Another one.

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Speaker 10: Notre Dame USC tied seven apiece with ten forty four

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Speaker 10: left in the second quarter and with twelve forty five

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Speaker 10: left in the second quarter. Penn State has a ten

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Speaker 10: to seven lead over Maryland. In the NFL, Vegas head

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Speaker 10: coach Antonio Pierce told reporters today that that an official

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Speaker 10: blew the play dead before the Raiders final offensive snap

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Speaker 10: that was signaling a false start. The team was eventually

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Speaker 10: flagged for illegal shift on the play, which was a

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Speaker 10: fumble recovered by the Chiefs. Buffalo, New York has issued

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Speaker 10: a lake effect snow warning through seven pm Sunday. The

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Speaker 10: not expected to be postponed, but definitely we've seen these before.

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Speaker 10: It's gonna be massy. Buffalo and former Stanford cardinal in

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Speaker 10: Indianapolis called Andrew Luck going back to Stanford, so c you.

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Speaker 10: He will serve as the general manager of the football program.

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Speaker 6: I love that l thank you, Mark.

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Speaker 10: So sorry. I'm late, by the way, I had to

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Speaker 10: watch that field goal go through the upright.

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Speaker 3: No, you were great. Yeah, you got through that segment.

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Speaker 2: Walked in the door right as we started the show

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Speaker 2: with your hands in the air in your Michigan shirt.

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Speaker 6: It was beautiful, it was perfect.

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Speaker 10: It was good to go.

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Speaker 6: Good timing.

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Speaker 2: All right, you're listening to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex

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Speaker 2: Courry here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the tartak Com Studios in Los Angeles, and it is

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Speaker 2: time for our first guest, NFL Networks fan fantasy analysts

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Speaker 2: and Big time Bears fan Adam Raank.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for doing the show.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, thanks for having me. I wondered if

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Speaker 7: the update was coming from a studio, and then I

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Speaker 7: heard Carmen scream when when the when the sun Devils

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Speaker 7: were mentioning He's right there with them.

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Speaker 6: We can see it on the other other side of

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Speaker 6: the glass. But here, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Tough couple of months to be a Bears fan. But honestly,

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Speaker 2: how are we feeling after they fired head coach Matt

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Speaker 2: Eberflus yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Do you agree with this situation?

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Speaker 7: Well, I will say this, Arsenal won today, so that

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Speaker 7: made things a little bit better.

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Speaker 8: That was fun.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what, I don't really I feel pretty

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Speaker 7: bad for the situation that's been going down in Chicago.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Matt ever Blues needed to go. I think

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Speaker 7: this was evident a couple of weeks ago. I was

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Speaker 7: sitting there in Arizona when the team just did not

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Speaker 7: respond to that game, and it was even exasperated by

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Speaker 7: the events that transpired when they played host to the

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Speaker 7: New England Patriots. And so for me, I'm like, there's

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Speaker 7: just no way that you can continue to go on

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Speaker 7: this way. And you know, you don't want to see

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Speaker 7: anybody lose their job around the holidays, But listen, Matte ever,

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Speaker 7: Blusons got a contract, He's gonna get Haiti's fine. I'm

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Speaker 7: just disappointed that it got it got to this point

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Speaker 7: that it's this bad that everything just went downhill one play.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it really came down to one play in

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Speaker 7: Washington to two plays in Washington, and uh, I don't

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Speaker 7: know if it's one of the things like in some respects,

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Speaker 7: like you know, you you look at the what the

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Speaker 7: narrative would be if if the Bears had ended up

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Speaker 7: beating Washington. Do they do they still lose in Arizona? Maybe,

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Speaker 7: but still you look at some of these other games.

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Speaker 7: But what we have just been covering up an underlying

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Speaker 7: issue that was lurking for this team? Or should be

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Speaker 7: should be happy that there was no there was no

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Speaker 7: way for Mattybert Blush to save his job because it

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Speaker 7: feels right and I don't know Quantie being very well,

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Speaker 7: but still he seems pretty happy. He's having way too

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Speaker 7: much fun uh at his ex coaches expense right now.

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Speaker 7: So which leads me to believe that there might be

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Speaker 7: more things going on. And I will tell you because

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Speaker 7: you know, I do a show with Tyler Scott. I

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Speaker 7: didn't I never asked him because I don't want to know.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to be in the know, but I'm like, ah,

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Speaker 7: I don't know. You know, it's just one of those

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Speaker 7: things like it feels like this needed to happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's It's very interesting because at the

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Speaker 5: time of that Hail Mary game in Washington, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: now we're going to figure out exactly what the spare

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Speaker 5: team is made of, because this is one of those

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Speaker 5: things that can either snowball and be a disaster or

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Speaker 5: it can galvanize a team and you can see them

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Speaker 5: kind of pull together and work together. And that was

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Speaker 5: you definitely saw the snowball and you saw just the

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Speaker 5: absolute breakdown where game in and game out, and then

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Speaker 5: especially these last three games, you make the change of

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, which I think that's what took most of

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Speaker 5: the heat after that, you know, like for most of

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Speaker 5: this season, especially with the regression after the bye week.

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Speaker 3: But then you go to all right, now you're.

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Speaker 5: In these games against really good division opponents, and it's

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Speaker 5: just coaching mailpractice. At the point where I keep saying,

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Speaker 5: Mattie Riffluce became a liability, and I think that that's

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Speaker 5: what forced the Chicago Bears to make that do something

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Speaker 5: they've never done before because they knew that it couldn't

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Speaker 5: get worse.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's the one thing. And that's

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Speaker 7: one of the things that people keep saying. It is like, well,

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Speaker 7: they've never fired a coach mid season, but you know what,

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Speaker 7: it's time for time for something new after one hundred years,

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Speaker 7: maybe maybe switch things up a little bit. I said

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Speaker 7: the same thing Carmen, like right after the after the

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Speaker 7: Washington game, going to This is why one of the

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Speaker 7: reasons why I was really excited to go to Arizona

665
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Speaker 7: is that they the players were going to tell us

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Speaker 7: how they felt about the coaching staff, which they did

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Speaker 7: in the first two games, and then when you got

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Speaker 7: into the divisional games where you were playing the Packers

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Speaker 7: and the Vikings, the Lions, the players showed them how

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Speaker 7: much they cared about themselves, how much pride they have

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Speaker 7: in themselves. They go out there and kind of rise

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Speaker 7: a puppet, and you know, and it's just it's disappointing

673
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Speaker 7: to watch Caleb Williams do what he did because everything

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Speaker 7: that Caleb has done, even included the Washingt game, I

675
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Speaker 7: know that he didn't statistically have the game that a

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Speaker 7: lot of people would you know, consider you know, jaw dropping,

677
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Speaker 7: but that fourth quarter he did rally them to win

678
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Speaker 7: that game. And you know in these games and these

679
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Speaker 7: four games where he's rallied the team, had the Bears won,

680
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Speaker 7: and I know they didn't, but had they won, like

681
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Speaker 7: there would be the offensive Rookie of the Year would

682
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Speaker 7: be over. We wouldn't even be it would be a say,

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Speaker 7: a complete And now people still think that he's a boss,

684
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Speaker 7: Like that's how that's how wild this there's still people

685
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Speaker 7: like he's like, he's a boss, He's gonna be one

686
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Speaker 7: thrower and he did whatever. He's like, No, this guy

687
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Speaker 7: has been rallying this team and he is the only

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Speaker 7: quarterback this season who has thrown multiple touchdown passes against

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Speaker 7: that Lion's defense. He is a good player. He's one

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Speaker 7: of the best players that I've seen play quarterback for

691
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Speaker 7: the Chicago Bears. This isn't a high bar. Understandably, the

692
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Speaker 7: three best Bears quarterbacks in my lifetime is A McMahon,

693
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Speaker 7: Cutler and Walter Payton on the half back auton, So

694
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Speaker 7: it's not a high bar, but still he is. He

695
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Speaker 7: is the dude. He is that guy and watching him

696
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Speaker 7: get his number retired at USC is gonna be pretty special.

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Speaker 7: And I think he's that guy. But unfortunately, as you said,

698
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Speaker 7: coaching now practice has felled him over the last six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Adam, do you think the Bears have wasted

700
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams rookie season?

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Speaker 7: Not at all. I mean, like, I think they wasted

702
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Speaker 7: an opportunity to go to the playoffs, which they really

703
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Speaker 7: should be. And I know that everybody's coming in in

704
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Speaker 7: victory lapping my prediction of the Bears getting double digit

705
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 7: wins and doing all that stuff, and it's that's fair.

706
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Speaker 7: Liked obviously they're probably no, they can't get now. They

707
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Speaker 7: can't get double digit wins now, so that's fair, But

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Speaker 7: I don't. I think it's in terms of development and

709
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Speaker 7: growth in his Caleb learned lessons. Is he developing as

710
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Speaker 7: a quarterback? And you know what's funny is like, unfortunately

711
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 7: in and not the way that you would want it

712
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Speaker 7: to happen, he is learning what it's going to take

713
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Speaker 7: to be a pro quarterback. And I think, like what

714
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Speaker 7: happened at the end of that Lions game where the

715
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Speaker 7: clock ran out and everything, I doubt we ever see

716
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Speaker 7: something like that happened to him. Again. We've seen him

717
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Speaker 7: make adjustments to things on the fly, We've seen him

718
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Speaker 7: overcome adversity, We've seen him, you know, rise of these challenges.

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Speaker 7: He is. He is exhibited a clutch gene. So as

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Speaker 7: far as that goes, yeah, I mean, that's really it.

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Speaker 7: And you know, people like Carmen who try to be

722
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Speaker 7: the realist, unlike me, who's the cock eyed optimist who's like,

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Speaker 7: we're going to the super Bowl and his rookie.

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Speaker 2: Year is that, you know, I think everyone did, though

725
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Speaker 2: there was such high expectations. Carmon was the only when

726
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Speaker 2: tempering expectations from the get go.

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Speaker 7: I understand, and she's being proven correct, but she is correct.

728
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Speaker 7: But the thing of it is is what she's been

729
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Speaker 7: preaching is that is your quarterback developing. And I think

730
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Speaker 7: right now that Kayla Williams is a better quarterback right

731
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Speaker 7: now than he was six months ago. And that and

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Speaker 7: if you want to look at it that way, yes,

733
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Speaker 7: But I also think about guys like Keenan Allen, Kevin

734
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Speaker 7: Byerd and all these veteran players who are like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I don't want to quarterback to development. I want to

736
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Speaker 7: go to the playoffs. And compete for a Super Bowl.

737
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Speaker 7: I feel for those guys, and I feel for the

738
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Speaker 7: fans who want to go out there and experience winning.

739
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Speaker 7: I honestly and I know that this probably wouldn't have happened.

740
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Speaker 7: I think the last one, I think the last NFL

741
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Speaker 7: fan base the storm of field is I think it

742
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Speaker 7: was the Cardinals in the nineties against the Dallas Cowboys.

743
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Speaker 7: Somebody fact check this. I really thought, I go and

744
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Speaker 7: I let this thought creep into my mind before Cairo

745
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Speaker 7: Santos had the kick block like I wanted. The fans

746
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Speaker 7: will rush the field like this would if there was

747
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Speaker 7: ever and if there was ever a reason for NFL

748
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Speaker 7: fans to be on the field like a bunch of

749
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Speaker 7: college kids. This is like the bunch of Vanderbilt fans.

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Speaker 7: This would have been it, but unfortunately it didn't have.

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Speaker 6: Adam, we love you, we appreciate you for joining the show.

752
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Speaker 6: And you know what, the future is bright. You can

753
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 6: only go up from here, right, That's what.

754
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Speaker 5: They say, right, you never know? I mean, I guess

755
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Speaker 5: now that place is out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is this is like the end of Empire

757
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Speaker 7: strikes back in the carbon free.

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Speaker 6: So much.

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Speaker 7: We're looking out that window at the big galaxy, knowing

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00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 7: that better days are ahead and I'm here.

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Speaker 6: For We appreciate you. Thank you, Adam.

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Speaker 7: Hi love you, guys, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, when we come back, the dudes in

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Speaker 2: the don't and sports. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday and Alex Curry here

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00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the tartak

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Speaker 2: Com Studios in Los Angeles, and it is officially Christmas time.

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Speaker 2: As you can tell here at Fox Sports Radio. Christmas

774
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Speaker 2: music all day. I get into it.

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Speaker 5: I think my Christmas playlist we'll go up against anyone.

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Speaker 6: I hear that.

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Speaker 3: I have like two hundred and fifty songs.

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Speaker 6: Share that, Share that with me, share that.

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Speaker 3: With the world. Will I should? Yea, I should. I'll

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Speaker 3: stand it out there. It's called here every Christmas because

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Speaker 3: that's a great song.

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Speaker 6: So you can share your is it Spotify?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, share Spotify on Twitter and to everything.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, guys, it's time for the news of

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Speaker 2: dots and sports highlight.

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Speaker 1: I love that putting a spotlight.

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Speaker 2: On the don't the subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

790
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna start with the dude. Do tell people

792
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: you love them. The Bills did a social media post

793
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: of all of their players calling someone and telling them

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00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: they love them. And it's little reminders like this, especially

795
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Speaker 2: around the holidays, to really count your blessings if you're

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Speaker 2: lucky enough to have people in your life to love.

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Speaker 2: So if you're listening right now, call someone in your

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Speaker 2: life and tell them you love them and shout out

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Speaker 2: and congrats to Josh Allen on love because he proposed

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Speaker 2: to his girlfriend.

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Speaker 5: And Haley Steinfad during their bye week.

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Speaker 6: So we love love over here.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well I have I'm switching gears there.

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Speaker 3: It is switching gears.

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Speaker 5: My high school is playing for the state championship today, which,

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Speaker 5: if you know my high school, York Community High School

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Speaker 5: in Elmherst, Illinois. Shout out to the dukes. Fear the

808
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: monocle baby. Coachelsemino has these guys ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I actually got to go to one of their playoff games.

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Speaker 5: When I went back to Chicago while you were there,

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Speaker 5: I know, I sat out there in the forty degree

812
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 5: weather and I watched my guys just completely curbs off everybody.

813
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Speaker 5: So they're playing Loyola Academy, which they are a football

814
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 5: powerhouse in the North Shore suburbs of Chicago. They are

815
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Speaker 5: going down to normal Illinois, Illinois State's football stadium and

816
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Speaker 5: they are playing for the state championship today and.

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Speaker 6: Live in Central What, yeah, do go out and win it?

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Speaker 3: Go do, go out and win it. Yes, guys love that.

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Speaker 3: Go York.

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Speaker 6: You okay, But we're keeping the dudes going here. Do

821
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Speaker 6: what's right for you. Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 2: We're tired for what most people thought was early from

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Speaker 2: the NFL at age twenty nine, and got a good

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Speaker 2: amount of pushback from it. But it was the right

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Speaker 2: move for him and his family, so we said. And

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Speaker 2: today it was announced that he will be returning to

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Speaker 2: his alma mater, Stanford, to become the football.

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Speaker 6: Program's general manager.

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Speaker 2: And I can I can see this like I can

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Speaker 2: see the progression of Andrew Luck like possibly making his

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Speaker 2: way back to the NFL as a general manager, like

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Speaker 2: he has such a smart mind for the game.

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Speaker 3: Like this is Stanford education.

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Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, I love this.

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Speaker 3: I love like football is just a better place with

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Speaker 3: Andrew Lucky.

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Speaker 6: Yes it is.

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Speaker 5: And I'm so happy for him that he's finding ways

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Speaker 5: to stay. Yes, that's part of it. And like who knows.

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Speaker 5: I mean we've seen Stanford when he was quarterback, uh

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Speaker 5: huh become a real deal program as someone who went

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Speaker 5: to a school and shared the PAC twelve with them

843
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Speaker 5: and the Pac ten with them before that.

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Speaker 3: So love that.

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Speaker 2: But also think like if you have a name like

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Speaker 2: that attached to your program, like that's going to make

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Speaker 2: recruiting easier too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh for sure, absolutely, Like everybody wants to be

849
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Speaker 5: happy to be a part of that, and then he'll

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Speaker 5: raise the profile of the program all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Do Share the wealth is my next one, Okay, because

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Speaker 5: as I'm watching Arizona State beat up on University of Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Last I checked, it was twenty eight nothing.

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Speaker 5: Kenny Killingham, their head coach, I call him Denny Killingham,

855
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Speaker 5: killing him.

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Speaker 3: Got it, gave his he got it.

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Speaker 5: He got a bonus. He got six bigger bonus for

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Speaker 5: forgetting to nine wins this season. Day he gave it

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Speaker 5: to twenty I think twenty different staff members.

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Speaker 3: He split it up, but like he didn't tell anybody

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Speaker 3: he was doing it.

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Speaker 5: He just told each one of the staffers, hey, you're

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Speaker 5: getting a five to ten thousand dollars bonus, and people

864
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Speaker 5: had to put it together that it was his bonus.

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Speaker 5: I love that he was giving out to the rest

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Speaker 5: of his staff.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 11: I know.

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Speaker 6: I love what people do.

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Speaker 2: Good Okay, well, well, another another high note here. Do

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Speaker 2: celebrate your wife. Jonathan Owens Mobiles husband did a Biles

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Speaker 2: dismount celebration. After a touch he did a salute and

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Speaker 2: then he it's up and celebrated with her.

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Speaker 6: And I just love this.

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Speaker 3: It was so cute.

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Speaker 2: It when you have a batty partner, celebrate the batty

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Speaker 2: partner and every possible you got.

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Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey does that with Taylor Swift Arrow thing.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we love all right.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going over all the Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: and Black Friday games. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our two of Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex

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Speaker 2: Curry here with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your

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Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with us and happy college football rivalry weekend.

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00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 6: It has already been so feisty. You guys.

886
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: Michigan with a huge upset over Ohio State this morning,

887
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: and that game ended with a brawl on the field.

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00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: It got wild, and after there was pepper spray, Yeah,

889
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: pepper spray. There were flags there, like like actual, I

890
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: think there were flags they were trying to plant in

891
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: the middle of the field.

892
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 6: Like it was just wild.

893
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 11: It was.

894
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 6: It was wild.

895
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: And Michigan's running back after the game, I think was

896
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: talking to Jenny Aft and had this to say, at

897
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: the end.

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00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 12: Of the day, you know, some people gotta they gotta

899
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 12: learn how to lose, man.

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00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: You can't.

901
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 12: Can't be fighting and stuff just because you lost a game.

902
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 12: You know, all that fighting we had sixty minutes, We

903
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 12: have four quarters to do.

904
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: All that fighting. Damn, I love it.

905
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 6: That's a good burn.

906
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 5: That is a yeah, because like you're taking a moral

907
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: high ground there too, where you're like, we shouldn't be

908
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 5: fighting as you that's for what, that's what The game

909
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 5: is such a petty thing to say.

910
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: Door is beautiful and we got some other great games

911
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: going on right now as you crushing you of a.

912
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a good game, but it's it's a game.

913
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: It's stressing for me.

914
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that much. Yeah, this game gets weird.

915
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: It gets weird every year, doesn't matter what their record is.

916
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 5: But as has been coming out on the winning side

917
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 5: of that more often than not.

918
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: What happens on these rivalry games. Notre Dame just went

919
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: up fourteen to seven on USC. We got Auburn or

920
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: getting to beat Yamma. I know, I saw a couple

921
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: of shoves and pushes there.

922
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: Love it.

923
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 6: It's a fun rubber I sye, I like it.

924
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: We got Purdue it Indiana tonight, Texas at Texas A

925
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Speaker 2: and M and the Washington at number one organ So

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Speaker 2: it's a great late of college football today, you guys,

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, we've got, as I mentioned, a lot

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Speaker 2: of guests today, and in this hour, we got Tracy

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00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: Sandler joining us from Buffalo forty nine Ers reporter in

941
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Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes. Chicago's WGN sports reporter Kaitlin Sharky, who.

942
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 6: Was in Cargo's very own yeah, who was.

943
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: In Detroit at that Thanksgiving game. She'll be joining us

944
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: in about thirty minutes. But we're going to start our

945
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: two here talking about the the NFL Holiday games, and

946
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: we already did a deep dive on the Bears, and

947
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: we'll talk to Kaitlin Sharky about that more at the

948
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Speaker 2: bottom of the hour. So let's move to the afternoon

949
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: or Thanksgiving game where the Cowboys beating the Giants in

950
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: we do in their first home win in almost a year.

951
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: December thirtieth was their last home win. Now the Cowboys,

952
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: there were some there were some good moments, and now

953
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: they've had two big wins in a row, both division wins.

954
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: The Giants are officially out of the playoffs out of contention.

955
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: Commanders are still in that seventh spot. But the question is,

956
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: and I bet the what Jerry Jones is thinking, are

957
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: the Cowboys still in it?

958
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 6: Can they still be in it?

959
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: Like there's a slight outside chance they still have two

960
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: division games. Last five games are verse Bengals. I don't

961
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: see them winning that one at Panthers, Verse Bucks at Eagles,

962
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: verse Commanders. Personally, I don't trust the Cowboys, especially without.

963
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 6: Dak, to make a winning and run of the season.

964
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: But my big question here would what would save Mike

965
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: McCarthy's job in these last five games? Did that win

966
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving save Mike McCarthy's job. Does Jerry Jones think that, Okay,

967
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: if we can make a close run?

968
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 6: Is he staying?

969
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: No?

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00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 5: No, the Giants are one of the if not the

971
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: worst team in the league and you only beat them

972
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 5: by seven, like that was not an impressive win and

973
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 5: it wasn't and.

974
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Speaker 13: Had many well exactly like the home win in almost

975
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Speaker 13: a year.

976
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: No, exactly so, but at this like that's the issue.

977
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: If they have not been where they have historically been

978
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 5: so good at home, they haven't been good at home.

979
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: But you also have the injury to dak So that

980
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 5: is like, I think Mike McCarthy is a good coach,

981
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 5: I really do, and I think that well, and he's.

982
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 6: Won a Super Bowl.

983
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: There's not a ton of coaches out there available who

984
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: can claim that.

985
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 5: No, And I do think that he will be good

986
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: wherever he ends up. I don't I think his time

987
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: in Dallas is over.

988
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: For Do you think it's better for McCarthy to leave

989
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: or better for the dow Boy the Cowboys to now

990
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: have some someone else who I think that benefit more

991
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: by the change.

992
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: I think that's a good question because I don't know who.

993
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 5: I don't know who Jerry Jones is going to end

994
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 5: up getting in there, and I don't necessarily trust him

995
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 5: to make a good decision because at the end of

996
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 5: the day, it's hard to go up from Mike McCarthy.

997
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 5: But I do think that they've already dug themselves into

998
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 5: a hole at this point where things can't stay status quo.

999
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: They cannot, so you.

1000
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 6: Need to shake.

1001
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 5: The only thing that you can really do at this

1002
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 5: point is get rid of the head coach. And I

1003
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 5: think that wherever Mike McCarthy goes next should be ecstatic,

1004
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 5: should be thrilled, to get Mike McCarthy, because I do

1005
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 5: think that he is an excellent coach, but I think

1006
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 5: his time in Dallas is just over. I don't think

1007
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 5: that there's anything that he can really do at this point.

1008
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 5: Like they're not going to make any rash decisions because

1009
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 5: they're staying afloat well enough to get by. But if

1010
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: you look at the way that this team was constructed

1011
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 5: in the first place, there just wasn't enough. That's what

1012
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 5: I went into the season. The second support, there was

1013
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: not enough when it came to the offense in general

1014
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 5: and weapons that you needed. The Cowboys did not do

1015
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 5: it enough in the off season to fortify an offense

1016
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 5: that had just been subtracted from And then you pay

1017
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott and you say, well, all our money is

1018
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 5: tied up there.

1019
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: No it's not.

1020
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: No, it's not And then you don't go out and

1021
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: get like they had future possible Hall of Fame.

1022
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 5: They had the smallest payroll of free agents this They

1023
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 5: spent the least amount of money in free agency this offseason.

1024
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 6: They did not say the wealthiest franchise.

1025
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: There's no excuse for it. There's no like when the

1026
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: Cowboys tell you they don't have money lies. Do not

1027
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: believe them lies.

1028
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 5: Everybody has like you can you can get creative with

1029
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 5: the cap spending, you can do all that kind of stuff.

1030
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 5: I realized that, you know, they needed to pay Dak

1031
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: the Age, Pacydi, They're going to need to pay Micael Parsons.

1032
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: All that stuff.

1033
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 5: But again they put themselves, they back themselves into this

1034
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 5: corner where they're like, oh, we have to pay all

1035
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 5: these guys like within two years of each other.

1036
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: Oh poor us, you did that. You did that to yourself.

1037
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 5: You absolutely can figure out how to stagger that money

1038
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 5: to get a little bit more creative.

1039
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 6: We have accounting account calls it.

1040
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it is.

1041
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, because there are been like the cap is maneuverable.

1042
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: For as hard of a cap as it is, it

1043
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: is maneuverable.

1044
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 5: And the Dallas Cowboys just tell you that it's not

1045
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 5: and that doesn't mean it's true.

1046
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 6: In a delusional state like they think they've always been.

1047
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: They think there are the Cowboys of the past, and

1048
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: they live in that realm opposed to and.

1049
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: When you're in the mirror when you say past twenty years,

1050
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: yeah exactly.

1051
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a long long time ago, you guys A

1052
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: long time ago.

1053
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: These aren't perennial contenders. Like they'd like to.

1054
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: Look in the mirror and be like, we need a

1055
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: complete restructure. A restructure, a rebuild. You need to build

1056
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: from the ground up.

1057
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 5: They I don't even think they need a rebuild. They

1058
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 5: just need to spend, like they need to do more

1059
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 5: for what they currently have to think about it. They

1060
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: have a franchise quarterback already, that's a great foundation. They've

1061
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 5: got one of the best young pass rushers in the

1062
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 5: league in Micah Parsons, one of they're going to Okay,

1063
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 5: you've got Ceedee Lamb who is one of the best

1064
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 5: receivers in the NFL. You have pieces, and you have

1065
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 5: an offensive line that, yes, is aging, but you also

1066
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 5: have a couple of rookies on there that look like

1067
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 5: they're going to be their long term answer at their

1068
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 5: respective positions.

1069
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: They have plenty to continue.

1070
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 6: They just have to add some leader, a.

1071
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: Coach who's going to be the new because obviously, as

1072
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: we just said, we don't think McCarthy's going to say it,

1073
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: actually it's going.

1074
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: To be a new well, it's going to be the

1075
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: same story.

1076
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: If they don't continue to invest in the offense around

1077
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott. The fact that again you started the season

1078
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 5: with Ceedee Lamb as your only viable offensive weapon is

1079
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: just it's silly because even if he lasts the whole

1080
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: season and he doesn't get hurt and nothing happens there,

1081
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 5: we saw Dack get hurt, but.

1082
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 6: Like everyone's targeting him.

1083
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: To shut him down.

1084
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 5: And then and then what you have no run game

1085
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 5: to speak of, You have very little when it comes

1086
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: to second, third, and fourth receiving options.

1087
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 6: Well, you have a decent enough tight end.

1088
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 5: But again, it's just one of those things where there

1089
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: was not enough on this offense to make a real

1090
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 5: run and you had the caps, you had the money,

1091
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 5: and you just decided to cry poor. Yeah, Which so

1092
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: it's not a rebuild. It's actually a really easy face.

1093
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: It's just like a give and a little bit money,

1094
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: a little bit more.

1095
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 6: Such gas lighting if you are wealthyous gaslighting.

1096
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 5: I think I've said that on this very show, where

1097
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: the Cowboys are the biggest gas lighters in the league.

1098
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 6: They are.

1099
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move to our last game on Thanksgiving, the

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Speaker 2: Packers beating the Dolphins, and in game the Dolphins looked

1101
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: cold and it's not an excuse, but it has been

1102
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: the narrative of Tua and the Dolphins because Tua is

1103
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: zero to seven in sub forty seven degree weather games

1104
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: and they looked soft.

1105
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 6: It's a thing. These SATs don't lie, and this.

1106
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: Is a bad thing for Tua and the Dolphins if

1107
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: they ever want to get far into the into the postseason,

1108
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 2: because it is a winter sport and the best teams

1109
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: in the AFC are in very cold.

1110
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 13: Places, the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens. I was to say,

1111
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 13: that's why you have Steelers. You do have to say

1112
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 13: there's a caveat to them not being will win in

1113
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 13: the cold. And I do think that there's something to it.

1114
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 13: But also when you're tak talking about those games where

1115
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 13: it's been less than forty seven degrees, that is against

1116
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 13: the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens, all that other stuff,

1117
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 13: so like you're going against really good teams and that

1118
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 13: probably skews those stats a little bit.

1119
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: It's not just the cold. It's not like as if they're.

1120
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 6: Goings are in cold weather.

1121
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to learn how to do it.

1122
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: I just think it's a little overblown about like, oh,

1123
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: they can't win in cold weather, Like yeah, they haven't been,

1124
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: but they've also been going against some really good talent

1125
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: when they have been playing in cold games. It's just

1126
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 5: that historically though, their offense under Mike McDaniel, I should say, yeah,

1127
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 5: has hasn't really been built around what you kind of

1128
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 5: need to do as far as like how you need

1129
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 5: to operate in cold weather. Like there's a lot of

1130
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 5: those downfield passes where their receivers are taking hits, and

1131
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 5: that's something that hurts Lay. It's it's not somewhere where

1132
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 5: you want to live if that's but but this year, yeah,

1133
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 5: that's been down to his average depth of target has

1134
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 5: been down this year. He's been living in that short

1135
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 5: to intermediate area of the field. John hu Smith has

1136
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 5: been his little safety blanket for much of this season.

1137
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: And so what going into that game in Green Bay,

1138
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 5: you were like, oh, well, they're kind of operating a

1139
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 5: little bit differently than they have been when they've lost

1140
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 5: all of these games in the cold. Maybe they're a

1141
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 5: little bit more built to sustain it this time. But

1142
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: then you remember that somehow someway they have no running

1143
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 5: attack whatsoever. I don't know where like were he moster

1144
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: in Devon h N are still there I don't know

1145
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 5: why you can't get these guys going this season Like

1146
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: this is an overall critique of the Dolphins, not just

1147
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 5: going into that Green Bay game. I don't know where

1148
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: that went because they were so so good at it

1149
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: last year running the football, But then you go into

1150
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: lambeau Field on Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's cold. Packers are used

1151
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 5: to it. Also, the Packers are just a really good team.

1152
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 6: They looked at what did this win tell you about

1153
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 6: the Packers?

1154
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: What I knew that they're they are? They are a

1155
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: super Bowl CONTENDERO.

1156
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: This is this is I mean, they're in the sixth

1157
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: spot right now, but they're also in the best division

1158
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: in the league behind the Lions.

1159
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 6: Who exactly they're going.

1160
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: To get into the they're going to get into the

1161
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 5: playoffs is a wildcard, but they will be better than

1162
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 5: every other wild card in the playoff race. They are

1163
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 5: so good and they figured out how to get pressure.

1164
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 5: That's what I was looking for, not just this last game,

1165
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 5: but after their bye week, because we've seen Matt Lafoor

1166
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 5: be able to do so many different adjustments. Jeff Hafley's

1167
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 5: is their new defensive coordinator. I was wondering if he

1168
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 5: could do that. On the defensive side of the ball,

1169
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 5: Packers have been atrocious to getting pressure upfront.

1170
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: That is no longer the case.

1171
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 5: They are getting pressure and Matt laflor is doing all

1172
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 5: of his wizard adjustments in the bye week again because

1173
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 5: since the bye week, the Packers run scheme has been

1174
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 5: drastically different, not just since the buye but every week.

1175
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 5: They are running things differently every single week, to the

1176
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 5: point where usually like teams have a one run scheme,

1177
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 5: you're like, you're an inside zone team, you're an outside

1178
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 5: zone team, you're a gap team.

1179
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: Whatever you are.

1180
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 5: The Packers do all of it, and they do all

1181
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 5: of it well, and they do all of it dependent

1182
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 5: on what their opponent is showing them or on tape.

1183
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 5: So they're going into these games behaving completely differently then

1184
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 5: they were the last game, and it makes them really

1185
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 5: hard to.

1186
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: Game plan for.

1187
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 5: On top of the fact that Jordan Love has all

1188
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 5: of these receivers to throw to. They are a playoff team,

1189
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 5: they are potentially a Super Bowl team.

1190
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 11: Dang.

1191
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: And when you look at their last five games, I mean,

1192
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: the next one's the big one, Thursday Night Football at

1193
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: the Lions, then at.

1194
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 6: Seahawks, verse Ah they don't have it easy at.

1195
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: Vikings another biggie and then end it against the Bears.

1196
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 6: So I mean three.

1197
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: Of their last five or division games with two of

1198
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 2: them being the two other best teams right above them.

1199
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: So it's they have a nice cushion on that wildcard spot.

1200
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: But this is going to be Ah.

1201
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: It's going to be There's not a huge margin of

1202
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 5: error here. But I don't think that they're going to

1203
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 5: need it. I don't think they're going to need it.

1204
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 5: I think that the Lions, you know, they're knocking on

1205
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 5: the door of clinching the division already.

1206
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I have the Lions in the super Bowl.

1207
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 5: But I just want people to be prepared for the

1208
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 5: fact that the Packers are going to make a real run.

1209
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 6: At this real chance.

1210
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: In that Lions Packers Game two, the webs are just

1211
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 4: decimated in the front. They're gonna get some guys back

1212
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: before the playoffs, but they're going to drop problem. It's

1213
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 4: also going to be their it's gonna be the third

1214
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 4: game in eleven days as well. And I know that's

1215
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: the same for the Packers, but it's just so.

1216
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 5: And when you play on a Thursday, you're supposed to

1217
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 5: get ten days after that. Neither of these teams are

1218
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 5: getting that. They will after they will after this game.

1219
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, before we go, finally our Black Friday game.

1220
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: Here the Chiefs beating the Raiders, but it looked like

1221
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: it was going to go the other way. But the

1222
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: ending of that game is a difference between a great

1223
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: team and a rookie center who snapped the ball when

1224
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: no one was looking or ready. And with that, the

1225
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs clinched a playoff spot, their tenth straight playoff appearance,

1226
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: fourteenth straight wins in one possession games, including the postseason.

1227
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 6: That's one of the longest streaks in NFL history. But

1228
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: wasn't a pretty game for the Chiefs.

1229
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Tough outing for Chiefs offensive line back to back weeks

1230
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 2: with five sacks on the homes.

1231
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 5: So this is just quietly, I mean, I'm not betting

1232
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 5: against the Chiefs.

1233
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 6: Ever, buck is a big part of sports, and the

1234
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 6: Chiefs have some epic luck.

1235
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 5: Well they're also again, they're just they have a pedigree, y,

1236
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 5: they have the pedigree, they know how to win those games.

1237
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: But this year, I mean, I'm a little worried about

1238
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: that defense right now.

1239
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 6: Yes, and five sacks and backback game.

1240
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 5: Again, I'm not I'm not letting I'm not letting this

1241
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 5: get to my head of like, oh I'm counting them

1242
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 5: out because I'm not chill. But there needs to be, like,

1243
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 5: there needs to be some sort of adjustment by Steve Spagnolo,

1244
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: especially along that defensive line because they're not getting any

1245
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 5: pressure whatsoever and like teams are just locking down Chris

1246
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 5: Jones and they've gotten nothing else nothing.

1247
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: That was Yeah, that was a lucky win for the Chiefs.

1248
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break here, but when we

1249
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: come back. Forty nine Ers beat reporter Tracy Sandler joins

1250
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: us from Buffalo. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

1251
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

1252
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: Carmen Vitali, coming to you live from the Tar dot

1253
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: Com Studios. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with

1254
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: Carme and me, and it's time to welcome in our

1255
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: next guest, forty nine ers beat reporter the owner of

1256
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: Fangirl Sports Network, Tracy Sandler, joining us from Buffalo. Thanks

1257
00:55:58,960 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: for joining the show.

1258
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 11: Hi Sha, Hi guys, thanks for having me.

1259
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 6: You must be feeling great today. Big Michigan fan Tracy.

1260
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 11: Huge I am feeling he's fantastic. I just actually said

1261
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 11: to a couple of my friends here, I said, nothing

1262
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 11: could make me sad today, literally nothing.

1263
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 5: You may have just gotten Ryan Day fired too, so

1264
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 5: that's going to be really interesting. It's like the ten

1265
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 5: losses as Ohio State's head coach, and y'all are about

1266
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 5: to get him fired.

1267
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: It's insane, all right, Trace, Let's get the forty nine

1268
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: ers because it's been a tough year for San Francisco.

1269
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 6: They came into the season as Super Bowl favorites.

1270
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: They are favored in every game this season, but they

1271
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: have been plagued with injuries all year.

1272
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 6: What's the mood like in that locker room right now?

1273
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 11: Well, it's interesting. Christian actually said something. Christian McCaffrey said

1274
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 11: something the other day that was interesting, and he said

1275
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 11: he thinks the vis are a lot lower outside the

1276
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 11: building than they are inside the building. Okay, so there's

1277
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 11: something to be said for that. But that being said, yes,

1278
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 11: they get brock perty back this week, but they have

1279
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 11: known exposa no Trent Williams, no Aaron Banks, no Jordan Elliott,

1280
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 11: and no Diamador Lenore. And you know, to the casual

1281
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 11: fan like Aaron Banks or Jordan Elliott maybe don't seem

1282
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 11: like big names are really important to Jordan's the defensive line,

1283
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 11: Aaron for the offensive line, And that means the offensive

1284
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 11: line is with two of its best without two of

1285
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 11: its best players in Trent Williams and Aaron Banks. So

1286
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 11: it's definitely going to be tough. I think their vibe

1287
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 11: and they're pretty good at this is the one week

1288
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 11: at a time thing and it's a one week season.

1289
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 11: But it's going to be a tough game tomorrow night.

1290
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 11: It's going to be where it took And then you

1291
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 11: added the snow.

1292
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, well there's that, and which is why I mean

1293
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 5: I think that this is I think I think every

1294
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 5: game comes down to the trenches, let's be honest, but

1295
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 5: especially if you're playing in any sort of weather, it

1296
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 5: really is. It becomes about who can control the line

1297
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 5: of scrimmage the most. And this forty nine Ers defensive

1298
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 5: line has still been kind of a bright spot of

1299
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: the defense that I think has been under performing. You

1300
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 5: mentioned the injuries all that kind of stuff, but they're

1301
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 5: going against the Bills offensive line that is very, very

1302
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 5: good at protecting Josh Allen and we know what he

1303
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 5: can do when he's protected. What is the key kind

1304
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 5: of here between those two to getting to Josh Allen

1305
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 5: or getting to the Bill's offense and kind of limiting

1306
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 5: them as.

1307
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: Much as possible.

1308
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 11: They're going to have to find a way. That came

1309
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 11: up some pressure not having the Closa in such a

1310
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 11: lot and as same as not having Jordan Elliott. And

1311
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 11: again I said to the casual fan, maybe that doesn't

1312
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 11: sound like a big deal, but it's a big deal

1313
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 11: and he's an important member of that line. So they're

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 11: going to need guys like Leonard Floyd to really step up.

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00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 11: And we actually saw him have a pretty decent game

1316
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 11: against the Packers. Although the game was a disaster, Leonard

1317
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 11: Floyd was not. But I think guys like that are

1318
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 11: going to have to really step up and they're going

1319
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 11: to have to find a way to bring pressure.

1320
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 8: Fred Warner is.

1321
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 11: Going to have to be a big part of that.

1322
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 11: And I think they're going to need to get a

1323
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 11: little bit better play out of that second line backer,

1324
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 11: whether it be the Vonder example, whether it end up

1325
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 11: being de Winters, going to need better play because that

1326
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 11: is a place that kind of is in a struggle

1327
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 11: all season launch and those positions are going to be huge.

1328
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 11: Trying to get pressure to Josh Allen, but I just

1329
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 11: think it's tough and I hate to like blame weather,

1330
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 11: but the Muffalos are the buffalos.

1331
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 8: The Bills are prepared for this.

1332
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 11: They know how to do this.

1333
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 8: Fourty nighters don't.

1334
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 11: I mean, they'll figure it out.

1335
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 6: But it could be a.

1336
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 11: Factor in this game.

1337
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean, what have you seen them do this? We

1338
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: too prepare for a possible snow out game.

1339
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 11: We didn't really see them do anything, and there's not

1340
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 11: really anything they can do. Kyle was asked about that,

1341
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 11: and we only had away and I will say this

1342
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 11: also in fairness, we only had one day of availability

1343
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 11: because of Thanksgiving, so that'sdiary. There were two days of availability,

1344
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 11: but we only get to watch five days, like five

1345
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 11: minutes of practice on Fridays. So but Kyle said, like,

1346
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 11: there's just not really much you can do to prepare

1347
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 11: for game. They can't put fake snow out on the

1348
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 11: practice field, and there's the ball situation, but how when

1349
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 11: it's going to be a slippery It's just there's not

1350
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 11: really you can a lot you can do to prepare.

1351
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 11: I think the preparation comes in kind of beforehand, making

1352
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 11: sure you're prepared in terms of gear, in terms of

1353
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 11: staying warm, keeping everybody warm, keeping everybody hydrated. We talk

1354
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 11: a lot about hydration obviously when the games are really hot,

1355
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 11: but I think it's really equally important if the game

1356
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 11: is really cold. You know, there's no so I think

1357
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 11: that's the best they can do to prepare and then

1358
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 11: just prepare to play as best they can, and probably

1359
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 11: to prepare to try to run the ball as much

1360
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 11: as they can and how they scheme up differently. But

1361
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 11: beyond that, there's just not a lot that you can do.

1362
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: How is brock party?

1363
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 5: Because this is probably also kind of one of those

1364
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 5: games where he's coming back and you're.

1365
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: Like, ooh, is there a lot of right this is?

1366
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you're not ever going to hold him out

1367
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 5: if he's healthy, But at the same time, this is

1368
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 5: going to be a very physical game, whether aside the

1369
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 5: Bills defense and the Bills in general are just a

1370
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 5: very physical team.

1371
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: How is he doing, How is his recovery? How is

1372
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: he feeling.

1373
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 11: He's threw on Friday, which was good because last Friday

1374
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 11: for the Green Bay game, he had not thrown, while

1375
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 11: Wednesday I saw him throw one path really practice. Otherwise

1376
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 11: you just did the handoff drills. And then Thursday he

1377
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 11: was limited. We were not at Thursday practice again because Thanksgiving,

1378
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 11: so Thursday he was limited. But the fact that he

1379
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 11: was able to throw on Friday, he's a good sign

1380
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 11: for San Francisco. And I agree with you. I don't

1381
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 11: think they're putting him in there no matter what unless

1382
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 11: he's one hundred percent healthy, because just from a you know,

1383
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 11: common sense perspective, if you don't want to put him

1384
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 11: in a position where now you lose him for the

1385
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 11: year or something happens and you lose him in the

1386
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 11: next year. So I don't think they'd put him out

1387
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 11: there he wasn't one hundred percent healthy. And the fact

1388
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 11: that he was able to throw on Friday is a

1389
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 11: very very good sign because last week he couldn't and

1390
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 11: he was in so much pain. So obviously thinks of

1391
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 11: big Ristian MacCaffrey game. Yeah, yeah, I think it's so

1392
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 11: there'll be a very very big christianer caffrin game. You

1393
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 11: may see a lot more Jordan Mason. I mean, you

1394
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 11: have to their backs. I think they're going to have

1395
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 11: to rotate them. And even though I know it's very

1396
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 11: RTU for Kyle to take Christian out, and I get it.

1397
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 11: I think they're going to have to.

1398
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 7: Rote to them.

1399
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 11: And Jordan Mason is such a physical bath he might

1400
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 11: kind of be built for this simple physical and you

1401
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 11: can run through anything. So we think that could end

1402
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 11: up being something that really helps their offense. And then

1403
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 11: they'll still have Kittles and you know, Serio ast somepoint

1404
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 11: Deebo Samuel is going to break out. We'll just see

1405
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 11: if maybe it's tomorrow or not.

1406
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know that was very helpful.

1407
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: I know it's definitely going to be an interesting, very

1408
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: interesting hard game tomorrow. Tracy, thank you so much for

1409
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: all that insight. Have so much fun in the snow tomorrow.

1410
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 8: Thank you very much.

1411
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: I wait to see that. Yeah, bye bye.

1412
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 6: All right, let's check in with Martin Wise and see

1413
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 6: what's trending.

1414
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 10: We've got a ton of games at halftime right now.

1415
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 10: I'll run through those real quick. Penn State making quick

1416
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 10: work of Marland thirty one to seven, fifth rank Notre

1417
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 10: Dame and USC tied fourteen apiece number ninth ranked SMU

1418
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 10: with a twenty one nothing lead over California. Have Obama

1419
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 10: with a fourteen six lead over Auburn and Arizona State

1420
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 10: thirty five to nothing over Arizona Arkansas. Missouri tied seven

1421
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 10: apiece start of the second half for Miami and Syracuse.

1422
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 10: With thirty seconds into the second half, Syracuse scores a touchdowns.

1423
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 10: It's twenty one to twenty extra point pending for the Orange.

1424
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 10: Earlier today in college football, number fifteen thrans South Carolina

1425
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 10: beat twelfth rank Clemson seventeen to fourteen. Freshman game caught

1426
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 10: quarterback Lenora Sellers with a twenty yard touchdright round with

1427
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 10: the men in eight seconds left. South Carolina started the

1428
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 10: year three and three. Now they have won six in

1429
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 10: a row. Speaking of winning games in a row, head

1430
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 10: coach Sharon Moore first year coaching Michigan full time, but

1431
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 10: he's got a two to zero record against Ohio State.

1432
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 10: Michigan beat the number two ranked Buck guys thirteen to ten.

1433
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 10: This is what happened after the game. Michigan ran to

1434
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 10: plant the flag on the field right there on The

1435
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 10: oh Ohio State players got bad started to fight. This

1436
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 10: is Khalil Munnings. Mullings to Jenny Taft after the game.

1437
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 12: At the end of the day, you know, some people

1438
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 12: gotta they gotta learn how to lose.

1439
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: Man, you can't.

1440
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 12: Be fighting this stuff just because he lost the game.

1441
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 12: You know, all that fighting, we had sixty minutes, We

1442
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 12: have four quarters to do all that fighting.

1443
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 10: You would think that Ohio State would have more familiarity

1444
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 10: with losing in this matchup as Ryan Day has lost

1445
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 10: his fourth Street just reading the effects.

1446
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: It's been four years.

1447
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 5: Together, you got together. Also, Martin's been updates.

1448
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: So that's president think about this. That's all that's gonna happen.

1449
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen.

1450
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 10: You know, there's one member of Ohio State's twenty twenty

1451
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 10: one recruiting class who did beat Michigan. That's Quinn youwers.

1452
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 10: He happened to just played for Texas and when that

1453
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 10: game happened.

1454
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 9: Uh.

1455
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 14: In the NFL Vegas head coach Antonio Pierce said, reporters

1456
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 14: told reporters that an official blew the play dead before

1457
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 14: the Raiders' final offensive snap yesterday, thinking that it was

1458
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 14: a false start.

1459
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 10: The team was actually flagged for an illegal shift on

1460
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 10: the play. Buffalo, New York. You just heard it has

1461
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 10: lake effects snow worn through seven o'clock sund So prayers

1462
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 10: up to Tracy because it's going to be cold and

1463
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 10: what and so hopefully that.

1464
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: Michigan win box. It'll be fine, It'll be pretty.

1465
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 10: It'll be fine, right, sure, right, and only a happy

1466
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 10: notes former Stanford Cardinal Indianapolis called Andrew Luck going back

1467
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 10: to Stanford. It'll be the general manager of the football program.

1468
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 10: Back to you, guys, love to.

1469
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: See Thank you, Martin. You're listening to Fox Football Saturday.

1470
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the taratot Com Studios in Los Angeles, and

1472
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: it is time for our next guest anchor and reporter

1473
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 2: at WGN Sports in Chicago, Caitlin Sharkey.

1474
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 6: Thanks for joining the show.

1475
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me. Happy to talk

1476
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 8: to you bowl.

1477
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: Hi sark I'm hearing wonderful things from Carme about you,

1478
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: so we so appreciate you coming on. It has been

1479
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: a wild month in Chicago. Bears firing my Eberflus yesterday

1480
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: after brutal ending in Detroit. You were there on Thanksgiving

1481
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: in that postgame presser. Did everybody expect this to be

1482
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: the end for Eberflus after that game?

1483
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1484
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 8: I think we all kind of had some idea. I

1485
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 8: mean we were talking going into that game because there

1486
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 8: had been so many instances already that you're kind of

1487
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 8: scratching your head when it comes to Matt Eberfluss. But

1488
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 8: I said, okay, well, if it comes down to any

1489
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 8: coaching malpractice, like he leaves Caleb in too long or

1490
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 8: makes a huge mistake, well that's exactly what he did

1491
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 8: in Detroit on things having he made a huge mistake.

1492
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 8: And I think it was finally the fact that he

1493
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 8: had lost the locker room and you could just tell

1494
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 8: the postgame scene he went up there and was still

1495
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 8: giving the same you know, conversations that he has in

1496
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 8: same answers like oh, we liked what we had there,

1497
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 8: we just didn't execute.

1498
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 3: All of that, Like yeah, incredible.

1499
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 8: It was just too much at that point in the

1500
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 8: locker room. I mean, there were guys that were just

1501
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 8: in complete disbelief and shock, but also others that were like, hey,

1502
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 8: we did our job. And it was very like that

1503
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 8: theme was very loud, and it was even if they

1504
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 8: weren't saying like coaching really messed us up on this one,

1505
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 8: you could hear it with the words that they weren't saying,

1506
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 8: and the support they weren't showing.

1507
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's something that has been happening more and more,

1508
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 5: I think since that Washington game in particular, when when

1509
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 5: we really saw so many different guys come out and

1510
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 5: say that we don't agree with this.

1511
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 3: They were openly.

1512
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 5: Questioning coaching decisions, which is not something that we had

1513
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 5: seen up until this point at least any regularity, and

1514
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 5: it just got louder and louder and louder. But the

1515
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 5: handling of this entire situation you mentioned that Eberflus kind

1516
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 5: of made things worse with what he said after the game,

1517
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 5: saying we liked what we saw there, which clearly you didn't.

1518
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 5: I don't know why you wouldn't say something like that.

1519
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 5: But then the next day, Mattibrafluse goes and does his

1520
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 5: regular day after press conference and then is fired two

1521
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 5: hours later, less than two hours later. I mean, what

1522
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 5: was that press conference? Like, I know, it's over zoom

1523
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 5: and then to like, did you have any inkling that

1524
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 5: there was some stuff going on behind the scenes at

1525
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 5: that point?

1526
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 8: I mean I woke up that morning and thinking, Okay,

1527
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 8: we haven't heard anything yet, so maybe they're not going

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Speaker 8: to make a decision. They're not going to make this move,

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Speaker 8: and then you know, it got closer to nine o'clock

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01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 8: and we still haven't received any zoom length. So I'm

1531
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 8: sitting there going, okay, maybe something is happening behind the scenes.

1532
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 8: And it got all the way up to like nine

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01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 8: oh five and a zoom link which is sent out

1534
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 8: you immediately had to get on. And it was so

1535
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 8: weird because they opened the zoom call and then Matty

1536
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 8: Burflush is sitting there. He gets up and he like

1537
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 8: walks off screen. They turned the camera off, and then

1538
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 8: we're all like, what's going on? And then he comes

1539
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 8: back and then he does this nine minute press conference

1540
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 8: like everything's normal and normal operation. So I don't know

1541
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 8: if like wires got crossed or why he was even

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01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 8: put in that position. Listen, I understand like eat into

1543
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 8: the job that he needed to do, and it's unfortunate

1544
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 8: anytime someone loses their job, but then to put him

1545
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 8: out there for a nine minute press conference to get

1546
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 8: questioned about his job was just insanity to me. And

1547
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 8: I'm sitting there like, is this is this real life?

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01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 6: This is embarrass It's so weird. But let's talk about now.

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: Thomas Brown, who was the interrum offensive coordinator who's now

1550
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: the interrium head coach. Do you think Brown has a

1551
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 2: real chance to secure the head coaching job for next

1552
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 2: season or do you see Chicago looking in a completely

1553
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: different direction to just restructure this coaching staff.

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 8: I think it would be the easy move, and like

1555
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 8: the unfortunately, I think it would be the Bears way

1556
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 8: to be like, look what Thomas did for us, Let's

1557
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 8: make him the head coach. And this is no flight

1558
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 8: on Thomas Brown, because I think he has changed so

1559
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 8: much for that group already, specifically for Caleb Williams, and

1560
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 8: he's worked from playing scout team nickel in practice to

1561
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 8: be the OC and now the head coach. So he's

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01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 8: done so much and he has a presence in an

1563
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 8: aura that we hear about. But for me, it just

1564
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 8: can't I don't know, you just I would like to

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01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 8: see him stay in the same role as OC and

1566
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 8: help Caleb continue to develop and get this offense on track,

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 8: and then bring in another head coach who can kind

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01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 8: of oversee everything else. And I just don't think. But

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 8: I also think that it would be the Bear history

1570
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 8: to be like, hey, let's give someone else a chance.

1571
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 8: I'd be in a first time head coach. I think

1572
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 8: they need to really broaden their search and be serious

1573
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 8: about who they want to pay and who they want

1574
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 8: to bring in.

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01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the thing.

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 5: When they named Thomas Brown the interim I was almost disappointed,

1577
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 5: and had nothing to do with the fact that I

1578
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 5: don't believe in Thomas Brown. In fact, it was the

1579
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 5: opposite where I'm like, he's making so much progress with

1580
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 5: Kayleb Williams. Now you're going to pull him in ten

1581
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 5: different directions on top of still having to call the

1582
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 5: offense presumably, and you've.

1583
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: Now let him.

1584
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 5: Now he's on the hook for how this team turns out,

1585
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 5: and that's going to affect if he's with this team,

1586
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 5: like going forward, or what role he plays. And I

1587
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 5: don't think that that's fair. I almost wish that they

1588
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 5: would have, like you said, kept him in this offensive

1589
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 5: coordinator role and maybe even elevated someone else. Was there

1590
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 5: any more clarification as to why it was Thomas Brown

1591
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 5: that they kind of handed the reins to.

1592
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 8: I think they looked at the rest of that coaching

1593
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 8: staff and who else is really in a position to

1594
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 8: lead this team, And I think he does have a presence,

1595
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 8: right and I think he was obviously a coaching candidate

1596
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 8: and other teams and other situations, and he was on

1597
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 8: that staff for a reason. And I think he, you know,

1598
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 8: he has the potential to do it, but like you said,

1599
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 8: he's not. It's not a fair shake for Thomas Brown

1600
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 8: now to step in and handle everything. And now it's

1601
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 8: like he's he's really set up to I don't know,

1602
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 8: it's hard for him to succeed, so I think. But

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 8: I also when they were like, okay, they fired Matt Eberfluss,

1604
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 8: he was my first thought. I'm like, they have no

1605
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 8: one else to promote to that level. I don't think

1606
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 8: I mean Richard high Tower maybe, but the way special

1607
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 8: teams have been.

1608
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 3: Doing, sure, I just you don't want to pull them

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: off all that.

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm like they're so like they all need their

1611
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 8: position coaches and the units needs that extra attention. And

1612
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 8: I think that was Mattiberflus's problem because he was overwhelmed

1613
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 8: with the defense and being a head coach at the

1614
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 8: same time.

1615
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: Now, when you look at Caleb wi Lambs rookie season,

1616
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: all the hypeen expectations coming into the season and now

1617
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: the changes and leadership and possibly a new system again

1618
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: next season. How do you see this affecting Caleb's development?

1619
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 8: It's tough, and you don't want a rookie quarterback, especially

1620
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,440
Speaker 8: the number one overall pick, to be in this situation.

1621
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 8: I mean, he talked to us and said, you know,

1622
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 8: when you fire Shane Waldron, like he's like I had

1623
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 8: a relationship with that person. I was learning him and

1624
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 8: how to communicate with him. And sure it was the

1625
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 8: right move to move on from Waldron, but it's still

1626
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 8: a lot for a rookie quarterback. And unfortunately, this is

1627
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 8: just such a bear's way of doing things that like

1628
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 8: other guys on the offense, Cole Comet, and they're so

1629
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,480
Speaker 8: used to another offense, another coach, another coordinator. And unfortunately

1630
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 8: for Caleb, he's smart, he's a really strong willed person.

1631
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 8: He's going to navigate this just fine. And I think

1632
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 8: he's already done a good job. But this is what

1633
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 8: you just wanted to prevent from the jump, like when

1634
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 8: you were bringing him on, when you were repeating Matty

1635
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 8: Riflus for another year, this is what you wanted to avoid.

1636
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 8: And the fact that they didn't see their writing on

1637
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 8: the wall is unfortunate for Caleb now in this situation, Yeah,

1638
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 8: I do.

1639
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 5: I keep saying it, though, where given what Caleb has

1640
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 5: shown already this season, the way that he has been

1641
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 5: so mentally tough and been able to just overcome so

1642
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 5: much adversity sometimes like in one game, in one quarter

1643
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 5: on one drive, and he still has such a good

1644
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 5: outlook where he's saying, hey, I'm learning, whether that's a

1645
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 5: positive or negative experience, I'm learning from it. I do

1646
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: think that he's going to fare better than maybe his

1647
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 5: last the last his predecessors in Justin Fields and mister Bisky,

1648
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 5: and I think that that's just the biggest testament to

1649
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 5: the reason why he was the first overall pick, why

1650
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 5: he was the best quarterback to come out of that

1651
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 5: class and the best quarterback maybe in years.

1652
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean, he operates at a different level, and

1653
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 8: it's clear to see he's already has such a maturity

1654
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 8: about him, and he's handled all of this well. And

1655
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 8: of course he makes rookie mistakes, and I think a

1656
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 8: large part of that final series in Detroit was also

1657
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 8: on Kayleb Williams, But that's also a rookie quarterback, and

1658
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 8: a head coach can never put him in that position

1659
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 8: to trust that he's going to know what to do

1660
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 8: when this is the first time he's probably ever seen

1661
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 8: anything like this in his career.

1662
01:13:58,800 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 3: But he is.

1663
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 8: He's a he's a different level of a quarterback. He

1664
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 8: has done so much already this season, and you can

1665
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 8: see how he fights, and you can see how he

1666
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 8: kind of navigates the peaks and valleys that he's already

1667
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 8: had in his rookie season. But he still has, you know,

1668
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 8: those moments where you trust him with the ball in

1669
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 8: his hand. If the coaching and the rest of the

1670
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 8: big picture stuff is working for him, He's done what

1671
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 8: he needed to do.

1672
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 6: Hopefully it only goes up from here.

1673
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how I got down, so that goes

1674
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: down from here.

1675
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 2: Babe, there's hope. Caitlin, thank you so much for coming

1676
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: on and joining the show.

1677
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, there was a blas Thanks Sach love.

1678
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: You all Right, guys, We're gonna take one more break here,

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: but when we come back, we're making our week thirteen

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Speaker 2: NFL picks. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

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01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitali.

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01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios

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01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and.

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Speaker 6: As you can hear, it is officially holiday season.

1685
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 5: I hey here on FSR, I'm going to request the

1686
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 5: n SYNC Mary Chris is happy holidays.

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 6: Well, you're gonna be hosting next week? I'm heading. I'm

1688
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 6: heading a Fiji.

1689
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: That's so fine.

1690
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: I like totally because I didn't plan this trip, which

1691
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: is very rare. I am like a passenger princess on

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: this trip, which never has never happened in my like

1693
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: trip planning life. Yeah, situation I forgot. I was like,

1694
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I leave next week.

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01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: Yes, so I will be hosting next week.

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 6: It's gonna be great.

1697
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're gonna do the insane put in like

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01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: a full like bring remember your Christmas playlist, sharing with

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01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: the world and to share it.

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01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 3: Or maybe I'll just do a very special Christmas that's

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01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 3: like my number one.

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 6: Well, you have a bunch of different times to get songs.

1703
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 6: I sure do so just like put in your list.

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 2: But okay, it is time for a week thirteen NFL

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: Picks producer Patrick lead us through, how are we doing here?

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01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 6: All right?

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01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 3: Well, Alex and Carmen.

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 15: After last week, both of you actually did pretty admirablyrect

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01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 15: No one went under five hundred on both of their picks. However,

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 15: we do have still some separation. Are still Fearless Leader,

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 15: as you miss a curry. Okay, you went four and

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 15: one on your week, Carmen, you were You did pretty

1713
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 15: good too, you went three and two?

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 6: How bad?

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01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 15: Still not bad, Carmen and Alex. There is still a

1716
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 15: It was a four point gap, it's now a five

1717
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 15: point gap now with that, because I.

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: Need us to be picking against the spread here.

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01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 5: I really I feel like I've been doing so much

1720
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 5: better if we were picking against the spread.

1721
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 3: Like it's fair and well.

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 15: We have another new week. It's a dawn of a

1723
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 15: new era. We have five maybe monopolized on this one.

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01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 15: Let's start with the first one here, shall we. We

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 15: have the Los Angeles Chargers, who are a one point

1726
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 15: favorite on the road, taking on the Atlanta Falcons. You

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01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 15: know what, Fearless Leader, what are we feeling?

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01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 6: You know what?

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01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 2: Falcons are on a little losing streak, but coming off

1730
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: thereby then you have the Chargers coming off a tough

1731
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: loss in the Harbor.

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 6: I think the Chargers come back and take this one.

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 5: I'm taking the Chargers, Yeah, I'm taking the Chargers too,

1734
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 5: just because I don't know that I trust Atlanta's defense

1735
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 5: at all, like.

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 3: At all, I like all three levels.

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01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm not saying it, and I do think

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 5: that the Chargers have quite a bit of motivation.

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 15: Well, speaking of motivation, we had the Pittsburgh Steelers on

1741
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 15: the road taking on the Cincinnati Bengals, who are three

1742
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 15: point favorites at home, and Carmen, what are we feeling?

1743
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 15: Are we feeling Joey B today?

1744
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 3: I'm always feeling Joey B. Let's be clear here.

1745
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 5: Adore that man, and honestly, he's been playing out of

1746
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 5: his mind this entire.

1747
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: Season, him and Smart Case.

1748
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 5: It's just been the defense and the offensive line hasn't

1749
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 5: been doing great things for Joey. But that being said,

1750
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 5: there's zero margin for error for the Bengals and I

1751
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 5: just can't quit them. So I am taking the Bengals.

1752
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 6: I thought you were going the other way. That was

1753
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 6: a good look.

1754
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: I just can't quit them.

1755
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: I know it's tough because Steelers are coming off their

1756
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: first loss with Russ, Bengals are coming off their bye week.

1757
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: Both teams are going to be very hungry for a whim.

1758
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: But it's also a division game where anything can happen.

1759
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: Burrow has been playing out of his mind and has

1760
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: been so close. So I think Joey B and the

1761
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 2: Bengals are gonna get this one at home.

1762
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 15: Oh we got another Bengal here, let's go Joey B.

1763
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 3: Well. Number three we have.

1764
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 15: The Philadelphi Eagles taking on the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens are

1765
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 15: three point favorites at home. Alex, Which bird are we going?

1766
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 6: This is a huge matchup, you guys.

1767
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 2: We got the best quarterback running back one two punch

1768
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: matchup here. I think Henry and Saquon Barkley are gonna

1769
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: go off in this game. Only two guys with over

1770
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: a thousand rushing yards this season. But the Eagles are

1771
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: red hot. They're on a seven game winning streak. So

1772
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ride with the Eagles here.

1773
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 5: Oh all right, Well I'm going Ravens. Yeah, I really,

1774
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 5: I mean it is a toss up. I'm so excited

1775
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 5: to see both of these running backs like going, not

1776
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 5: head tohead, but like back and forth. I do, however,

1777
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 5: just think that the Ravens pass defense has a little

1778
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 5: bit more juice when it comes to stopping AJ Brown

1779
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 5: and if you stop AJ Brown and you kind of

1780
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 5: make Eagles offense one dimensional. With Saquon Barkley. It doesn't

1781
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 5: always work out because Saquon can take a game over.

1782
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 5: But I do think that the Ravens are pretty well

1783
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 5: equipped to do so, despite the fact that I do love,

1784
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 5: love love Quinion Mitchell, who is in the Eagle secondary.

1785
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a toss up. I'm going Ravens.

1786
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: It is well.

1787
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 15: Speaking of a team I love love love, we have

1788
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 15: not the Cardinals, but the Cardinals are playing at the Vikings.

1789
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: There it is.

1790
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,799
Speaker 15: There are three and a half wint favorites at home. Now, Karmen,

1791
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 15: do you love love love the Vikings like I do?

1792
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 5: I do love, love love the Vikings at Home us

1793
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 5: Mega such a great atmosphere. I just adore them. I

1794
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 5: adore the Vikings. I adore Kevin O'Connell and Brian Flores

1795
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 5: taking the Vikings.

1796
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also taking the Vikings all around. Better team

1797
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 2: fine to stay in that wildcard spot. It's gonna be

1798
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: the Vikings all right.

1799
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 15: Final game we have the San Francisco forty nine ers

1800
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 15: taking on the Buffalo Bills at Buffalo Bills are an

1801
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 15: overwhelming seven point favorite.

1802
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: Alex take it away.

1803
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bills all the way. They're on a six game

1804
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: winning street coming off there by forty nine. Ers have

1805
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 2: just been plagued with injuries, as Tracy Sandler just listed

1806
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: off earlier this hour, it's gonna be cold. Bills are

1807
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: going to get this one.

1808
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bills are. This is this is Bill weather.

1809
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 5: This is we'll talk about like Bear weather, Packers weather.

1810
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 5: This is Bill's weather. Yeah, and I'm excited for it.

1811
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 5: And Bills are the better team.

1812
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: And Josh Allen is now engaged man, so he's got

1813
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: a lot to play for. Thank you so much for

1814
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 2: spending your Saturday afternoon with us. You'll be here with

1815
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: Carmi next week, same time, same play.

1816
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 3: Hi Mom and Dad,