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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: and we're pleased at this time to welcome Steelers defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Larry Ogunjobi to the show. And Larry, you've been

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Speaker 2: with the team now a few years. It does it

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Speaker 2: feel like it's been your entering year three with this team?

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Speaker 3: What's up, guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how you're doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good as well? Yeah, it definitely does.

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Speaker 4: Just getting the feel for the camaraderie the team, all

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Speaker 4: those kind of things, and just being the place where

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Speaker 4: you're able to grow and and learned from coaches and

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Speaker 4: great players. I think just stepping it's gone by super quick.

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Speaker 4: But it's awesome to get go into year three and

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Speaker 4: you know, we're excited for the season.

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Speaker 2: This this defense this year, Larry, looks like it could

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Speaker 2: be scary good. We saw the defense. Thank you. Guys

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Speaker 2: had eleven sacks in the preseason and you did that

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Speaker 2: without having Cam tj or Alex Heigsmith out there at all.

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Speaker 2: You were getting after the quarterback. We saw you know,

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Speaker 2: her big get after the quarterback. We see Benton getting

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Speaker 2: after the quarterback. I mean, you guys might be able

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Speaker 2: to come with people in waves this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's just you know, kind of the

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Speaker 4: room that we're trying to develop. I think we've always

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Speaker 4: had that next man up mentality, but just being able

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Speaker 4: to become a team and a group where you just

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Speaker 4: never know where the big play is coming from and

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Speaker 4: believing that you can make that play is very important.

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Speaker 3: So you're starting to see guys.

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Speaker 4: Really elevate their game and get confident and run around

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Speaker 4: and make plays.

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Speaker 3: And we're exciting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. You mentioned the room. You're part of the defensive

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Speaker 5: line room. It's as deep and talented as I can remember.

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Speaker 5: Is it something that you and the coaching staff are

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Speaker 5: really excited about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think that you kind of said it.

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Speaker 4: Coming at people in waves, and you know, especially with

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Speaker 4: the young guys playing up and playing fast, I think

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Speaker 4: is super important. And you know they're learning, they're growing,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of times when you get the reps,

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Speaker 4: you know, coming off your rookie season and you know

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Speaker 4: that a lot of times they say is some of

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Speaker 4: year two, and you're starting to see those and you know,

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Speaker 4: Nick and Keanu and Leal like this, guys are playing

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Speaker 4: you're starting to see that and it's really it's really good.

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Speaker 2: We saw we've seen Keanu Benton make some plays last

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Speaker 2: year as a rookie. It looks like he's added a

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Speaker 2: lot to the repertoire heading into this season, he's going

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Speaker 2: it from what that appears.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, like I called him lets so he's a

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Speaker 4: dancing bear. So you know, he's able to get up field,

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Speaker 4: he's getting to run. He has the ability to become

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Speaker 5: Well, you're obviously a veteran and have been around, had

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Speaker 5: a really good career already, but a few careers and

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Speaker 5: leadership can compare to Cam Hayward. You know what kind

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Speaker 5: of effect does he have on you and especially those

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Speaker 4: Oh, Man, Cam like an old statesman. Man, He's just

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Speaker 4: you think that you know, you're fourteen, there's no lack

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Speaker 3: There's no lack of leadership.

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Speaker 4: Man, He's just he's just out there every day energizing,

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Speaker 4: talking to guys, lifting people up, you know, really bringing

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Speaker 4: fourteen still have that, you know, that go get after

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Speaker 4: mentality each and every day when you come into work.

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Speaker 4: And I mean it's just a testament to not only

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Speaker 4: I think that guys, he's gravitated that and then the

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Speaker 4: could take a day off for could chill, who's earned

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Speaker 3: To you feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I think that's, you know, like I said, just a

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that he could take days off and doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean last year would have been in perfect time

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Speaker 2: for him to just say, you know what, I'm playing

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Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, that's just a testament to

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Speaker 4: and just his character as a person. You know, when

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Speaker 4: you do things right off the field, a lot of times,

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Speaker 4: And I have nothing respect for him.

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Speaker 2: So the guy on the other side, you TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watt, Ye, he's not too bad either.

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Speaker 3: He's not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not bad in his own right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, TJ's he's a special guy.

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Speaker 4: Man. He's As we've grown together at teammates, you know,

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Speaker 4: you start to learn a person and how they think

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Speaker 4: You see that in his daily process and I think

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Speaker 4: And like I said, he's he's specially within his own right,

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Speaker 4: that development, that that consistent you know, working on your craft,

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Speaker 3: Than stay ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just one of the things that makes

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Speaker 5: So, Larry, you have a very unique experience in perspective

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Speaker 5: on the AFC North that maybe no other player in

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I've always viewed it, you know,

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Speaker 4: explain it, but when you play AFC North or when

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Speaker 4: and I just feel like it's just a different type

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Speaker 4: those games just always felt different. And now even being

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Speaker 4: you know, those divisional opponents, those games just feel different,

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Speaker 3: It's a it's an amazing atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: It really is. And and uh, you know you've you've

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Speaker 2: been a big part of that. This year, you guys

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from them that they bring to

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Speaker 3: Just experience and energy.

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Speaker 4: You know, me and uh Pat have become good friends,

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Speaker 4: and just watching his work and how he's been able

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Speaker 3: I think it's just it's just awesome. And it's like I.

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Speaker 4: Said, when you're when you've been in the division for

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Speaker 4: now you can't wait to play the teams that you

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Speaker 2: Were you nervous about that when you do into Steelers

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Speaker 4: I think at first you're kind of like apprehensive, because

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just think that's a normal human emotion,

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Speaker 3: You know, when you leave a team and go to

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Speaker 4: Build camaraderie, you build togetherness, and then you understand and

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Speaker 4: now you're putting your hand in a different pile and

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Speaker 4: And I think it's it's one of those things that

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Speaker 4: gives you a different perspective for some guys. That adds

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Speaker 4: And like I said, it's just I think it's all

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Speaker 5: Not to speak for you, but I would assume you know,

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Speaker 5: since you ended up here that when you were playing

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Speaker 5: a great respect for coach Tomlin and I'm sure that

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Speaker 5: has a lot to do with you ended up here.

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Speaker 3: Huh, definitely, of course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I always used to you know, when you're on the

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Speaker 4: other side when not my first couple years it was

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Speaker 4: always like the Steelers with a big bad brother, but

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Speaker 4: being able to play against them, and then obviously when

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Speaker 4: different feel for how you know, how fiends can change,

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Speaker 4: and you know, and it's the ebbs and flows, you know,

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Speaker 4: even in a in a series or even in like

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Speaker 4: and just just the ebbs and flows and how things

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Speaker 4: and how relationships developed. Like it's just a super interesting

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Speaker 2: Our guest is Steelers defensive tackle Larry Ogan Joby. One

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Speaker 2: last question here for you. For Larry, uh this this

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Speaker 4: I mean personally, it's always a hard day because you know,

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Speaker 3: It's live bullets now.

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Speaker 4: And and I think that's very important, just not only

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Speaker 4: I think it's good to give everybody a chance, coaches, players,

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Speaker 2: Well, Larry, we appreciate you stopping by, and we of

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Speaker 2: course wish you luck in the regular season. Can't wait

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Speaker 3: Thank you yes, sir, you guys everyone today.

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Speaker 2: You too. That was Steelers defensive tackle Larry Ogunjobi, a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he really shined. I mean it was

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Speaker 2: I mean, they got some dudes this year and they

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think the Steelers have one of the best,

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson And uh well, I want to thank Hilario good

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Speaker 2: Jobe for starting buying the previous segment. It did delay

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Speaker 5: To Here're not gonna skip it, right, No, good good.

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Speaker 2: So today, Matt, I thought we'd take a look at

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Speaker 2: team defenses, and you sent me the Underdog Network's rankings here,

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Speaker 2: and they're as good as anybody's. Yeah, yeah, there's some

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Speaker 5: I haven't given defenses a whole lot of thought.

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Speaker 2: You never do, but.

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Speaker 5: I know I do defense. I don't give kickers any thought.

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Speaker 5: See this is where I all smart myself. Every year

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Speaker 5: than my draft man. They have tons of talent, they're

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Speaker 2: Here's the mistake that you don't want to make with

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Speaker 2: your draft, it's going to be round ten or eleven

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Speaker 2: and it never pays off. Like last year in our league,

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Speaker 2: I think somebody's jumped on San Francisco super early.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and someone always does with Justin Tucker. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: There's a gaining that much of a pass on an

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Speaker 5: And you do this a lot, and you're quite good

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Speaker 5: You know, look a week ahead that boy, they got

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Speaker 5: the Panthers next week. I'm I really do that, but

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Speaker 5: I don't either. But it's not a bad move. With

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Speaker 2: Out six or seven teams that if I don't care

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Speaker 5: It's like, just sign me up against these.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you have to look two weeks ahead of time,

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Speaker 5: And along those lines. Some people draft defenses. Boy they

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Speaker 5: you might that's something you might get stuck with them for.

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Speaker 5: But then you might get stuck with them and not

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna stick with this team even though it's

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Speaker 2: If you're really trying to win every week, which is

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Speaker 5: And for example, I think the Browns consensus is the

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Speaker 2: So these are the bottom defenses according to Underdog Network,

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Speaker 2: and I agree with these.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there's a bunch that are untouchable.

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Speaker 2: Arizona.

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Speaker 5: Arizona's horrendous. I want all their offensive guys because their

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Speaker 2: Carolina, Yeah, it got worse.

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Speaker 2: Denver.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's definitely in the bottom third.

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis, H I play though naturally, it's a it's a

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Speaker 5: And I don't think it'd be a bottom five one

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Speaker 2: Washington. The other thing that people to Washington be bad.

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Speaker 2: Was your pump returner? Who's your kick return?

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Speaker 5: What's scoring in your league?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington at twenty eight, it'd be really low for me.

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Speaker 2: I might bump them up a little bit this year

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Speaker 2: based on Harbor wants to run the football. The shortened games,

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Speaker 5: See that's what I was gonna say too. Is even

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't kill It doesn't kill you though, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: That's not so bad. They will shorten games. I also

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Speaker 5: I'm always going to take a pass rushing team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you're not taking the Falcons defense, no, necessarily right.

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Speaker 2: they'd be low for me too, yeah. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati at twenty five, Wow, they didn't make any It

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Speaker 5: Bad last year. Yeah, the run defense was really bad.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty low for them.

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Speaker 2: At twenty four they had the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three they're the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: It's aggressive. That part's good. I mean he creates big plays.

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Speaker 2: Return to the ten, right, you know, and now your

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Speaker 2: defense gives up a score that, Yeah, anybody would given

441
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 2: up a score on exactly.

442
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, so if an offense is gonna hurt you,

443
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 5: that's a that's a problem.

444
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a problem with the Jets offense defense

445
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 2: last year.

446
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:42,719
Speaker 5: Perfect example.

447
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 2: Twenty two the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

448
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 5: I don't see a lot of big plays.

449
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 2: Well, they list they list strengths and weaknesses. Here for

450
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 2: these weaknesses. Cornerback one, cornerback two, nickel cornerback, cornerback.

451
00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 5: Room's also great. Yeah, right, Vida and those guys are,

452
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 5: but they're not huge impacts from the fantasy world.

453
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: Twenty one is the Giants.

454
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but their front is good. Yeah, I mean Thibodeau

455
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 5: and Burns and Lawrence. That's about proper. I bet more

456
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 5: people have them lower. I think that's where they belong.

457
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty is the Miami Dolphins good.

458
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 5: I always see them in the top ten.

459
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 2: I know, I don't see that at all.

460
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's where they should be. Yeah.

461
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips coming off of major injury.

462
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 5: Chib I think is going to be on the pop.

463
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: Chub has an ac el to start the season.

464
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 5: Why they drafted in the first round despite their OWD lining.

465
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: They got rid of Christian Wilkins, they get rid of

466
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 2: Avian Howard, they got rid of Andrew van Ginkel, who

467
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 2: had a really good year for him. Yeah, I don't

468
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: know where.

469
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 5: I don't know where that comes from with them. I

470
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 5: think it's average at best.

471
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 2: I think people look at it and say, well, the

472
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: offense is going to put so much pressure on the

473
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 2: opposing team's defense that you're going to have to take

474
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: more chances against them maybe, or maybe you just run

475
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: the ball right down your throat.

476
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 5: You try to shorten the game like crazy, right, you know,

477
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 5: especially when the weather hits.

478
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 2: That's what the Steelers did against them two years ago.

479
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: Down there. If you remember, I think the Dolphins won

480
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: the game sixteen fourteen or what. But that's not their

481
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: style and that's not what they want to do. The

482
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: Steelers shortened the game on them. We're throwing into the

483
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: end zone twice in the last four minutes to win

484
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 2: the game, to win.

485
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they will be on my team nineteen of Seattle.

486
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 5: I respect the coach and the coordinator and some of

487
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 5: the players, but there's a lot of change, a lot

488
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 5: of change, you know, So I don't know if they

489
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 5: really have the edge rushers to make this work. Mafe

490
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 5: is their best dude, but in Baltimore, he did a

491
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 5: pretty good job in manufacturing.

492
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

493
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do like the rookie first round pick kid

494
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 5: from Tech Murphy.

495
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: Murphy. Yeah, eighteen is Tennessee. They'd be lower. Spent a

496
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: lot of money on it.

497
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 5: They spent a lot of money. I don't love the

498
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 5: edge rushers. I mean, Landry's okay, but he's not really

499
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 5: a one Simmons need. And I think there's a lot

500
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 5: of holes.

501
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: They got a doozy a and you get Simmons, you

502
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: get they drafted to and Andre Sweat.

503
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 5: They traded for a linebacker traded for the linebacker it gets,

504
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 5: it'd be lower for me.

505
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: Seventeen is Buffalo.

506
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 5: I'd be really concerned with the Milano injury. Yeah, and

507
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 5: two new safeties. I mean that's the backbone of that

508
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 5: defense has been linebackers and safeties and Milano Edmunds from

509
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 5: a year ago player and his buddy that's been there

510
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 5: a thousand years. We're all gone. I mean that's the

511
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 5: backbone of the team. Yeah, that's it's troublesome. They're moving

512
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 5: on to new safeties. They still have a good pass rush.

513
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 5: I love their I like their d line a lot,

514
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 5: and we saw that firsthand. But their corners aren't great either.

515
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 2: But if you know, if you're not scoring as much

516
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: as you were, Bills.

517
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 5: Will be pretty low. They won't be in my top twelve.

518
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: Sixteen is Atlanta Improved. The littles are going to face

519
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 2: in Week one.

520
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 5: I like the Judeon pickup. I like the Simmons pick

521
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 5: up keeping Torell so.

522
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: Here they are strengths or cornerback one, the safety duo,

523
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: and edge.

524
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 5: One, all of which are new. Basically all right.

525
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: The weakness is past rush depth and linebacker.

526
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it could be had up the middle too, Yeah,

527
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 5: I mean just Steeler. Note, I think the Steelers will

528
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 5: run on them.

529
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. At fifteen the Eagles.

530
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 5: Okay, you're hearing good things. I don't know if I'm

531
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 5: believing good things yet.

532
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: A lot of young guys in the secondary.

533
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 5: Linebackers in secondary, a lot of those picks they're excited about.

534
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 5: And the Kobe Dean looks like he's turning the corner.

535
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 5: I think Jayden Carter cann be great. Get to play

536
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 5: Washington twice, you know, you get to play the Giants twice. Yeah,

537
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 5: I think that's fine.

538
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: Fourteen the Patriots. That might be a little too high

539
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: for me because their offense is going to be junk.

540
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 5: My problem with the Patriots like there's a dynasty league

541
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 5: where you can't not go with out of defense. So

542
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 5: I kept them all off season and thinking they're gonna

543
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 5: be a top five unit, but their offense is so

544
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 5: bad and I don't think they're gonna get first downs.

545
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 5: And their best two players, Judawon's now in Atlanta, who

546
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 5: has count on coming back? And bar Moore's out indefinitely, yeah,

547
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 5: unfortunately so and Belichick's gone.

548
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

549
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: I mean, like the three best things the defense that

550
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 5: going for him aren't there anymore, and they're to be

551
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: able field all the time.

552
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: People love Christian Gonzalez.

553
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 5: I'm excited about him, But it's coming off in ACL,

554
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 5: coming off an ACL and you only played a handful

555
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 5: of games. Yeah you know. I mean that's a nice

556
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: boost that you didn't have at the end of the year.

557
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: But rather Belichick thirteen is Green Bay. Maybe I fall

558
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 5: for this every year because their first round picks everywhere

559
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 5: and they go get McKinney. But the coordinator change has

560
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: me excited for them.

561
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could be good. They could be They could

562
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: be thirteen.

563
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 5: That what they're on there. Yeah, that's probably about right.

564
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: It's twelve. So these are the defenses that they feel

565
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: you should draft in your twelve team league San Francisco.

566
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: A lot of people have San Francisco much higher.

567
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they've slipped a little. We've mentioned a

568
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 5: couple of times in the show how they like hockey

569
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 5: waves of d linemen. It's a little lessons been and

570
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 5: I think Floyd got hurt. Yeah, who's an edge guy

571
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 5: for him?

572
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: They don't have the secondary depth that they used to have.

573
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 5: Vonga comes back. Their corners are better than people think

574
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 5: Bosa is a defensive Player of the Year candidate. So yeah,

575
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: I think ten to twelve where they belong, not one

576
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 5: to three.

577
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, eleven. You're gonna hate this one. The Raiders.

578
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Crosby's there. I mean, the Crosby Wilkins front

579
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 5: is the number one thing I look for. They wouldn't

580
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 5: be in my top twelve.

581
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: I know they wouldn't be mine either.

582
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 5: I mean, like Splain's their best linebacker, and I know

583
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 5: they like them more than I do, but they will

584
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 5: have sacks.

585
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: I think this is this is an interesting stat though.

586
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: This was this according to under Underdog Network, this was

587
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: EPA's number one defense from Week nine onwards.

588
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 5: Is that when they made the coaching change that they can.

589
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: Change and they played some really bad and they play

590
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: some really bad teams, right, but still get to play

591
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: some Oh yeah yeah, I mean they're playing Denver.

592
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I mean I get it. It's

593
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 5: funny because some of the podcasts I do they're more national.

594
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 5: I'm always hard on the Raiders, and I get a

595
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 5: lot of tweets from Raider fans. Did you see the

596
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 5: second half of last year's defense? Like yeah, and I

597
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 5: respect it. Maybe not enough at ten.

598
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: Dallas, that's another one that gets rated much higher than this.

599
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone has them in the top five. I like

600
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 5: the Zimmer higher, but Lawrence is starting to show a

601
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 5: little age. They lost a corner. They were really bad

602
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 5: against the run, although it looks like that's gonna be

603
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 5: job number one for Zimmer. Yeah, you know, fixing things

604
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 5: up the middle and Parsons, Crosby, Bosa. I mean, wat

605
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 5: we haven't mentioned yet, Garrett, and you have one of

606
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 5: those guys. You might be a top twelve fantasy defense. Yeah,

607
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 5: just myself, you have a chance. Yeah.

608
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: Nine is Jacksonville.

609
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 5: I think they're front sevens better than people think. And

610
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: I think Walker everyone looks at him because's first overall pick,

611
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: like he's a bust. He had ten sacks or something,

612
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 5: and he's starting to round it in the shape and

613
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 5: come around and they have Allen. It's not bad. I

614
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 5: mean that might be the one I target.

615
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: Late.

616
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: Eight is Detroit.

617
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 5: I'm a believer. I don't think Hutchinson's at that level,

618
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 5: but now they have corners, their the tackles are improved.

619
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: They're gonna score, They're gonna put pressure on the team.

620
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of Dome games. Doesn't sound like much,

621
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: but they threw Marcus Davenport in the mix. They'll play

622
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 5: him fifty the reps opposite Hutchinson. Yeah, it's not bad.

623
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Seven is Houston defensive.

624
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: Minded head coach that has those guys flying around Anderson

625
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 5: and Hunters.

626
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: Pretty that's gonna with lots of offense.

627
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I no problem with that.

628
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: Six is the Steelers, Okay, I.

629
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 5: Say they would be top five ish for me, and

630
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: that's top five ish.

631
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Five is the Bears. I'll take the Steelers defense over

632
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: the Bears.

633
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 5: I think next year. Like, I really like the back

634
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 5: seven of the Bears. They got Edmonds, they got Edwards,

635
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 5: they got Jalenson. Gordon looks like a really good player.

636
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: I really like Sweat, But the rest of their d

637
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 5: line really worries. Yeah, Like I see a lot of

638
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 5: games in the Bears future where they can't stop the

639
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 5: run and they're out there and they're getting bludgeoned. Like

640
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 5: Garvin Dexter's their best defensive tackle. Yeah, and he might

641
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 5: be okay in a year or two. They don't have

642
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 5: another edge rusher they want to Jude on their front

643
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: worries me, and.

644
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: I worry about rookie quarterback. How many interceptions is he

645
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: going to throw and set the other team up for?

646
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 5: You know, like that's another Patriot one. Yeah, if May's

647
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: out there a ton, he's gonna do too much and

648
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: throw picks he shouldn't. And yeah, uh for Kansas City, Yeah,

649
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 5: the environment is good again a team offensively that puts

650
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 5: a lot of pressure star power coordinator Chris Jones. Yeah.

651
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: Three the Jets.

652
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: Okay, they've been really good on defense for a while,

653
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 5: and that's hard to do. You're just and palytically speaking,

654
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 5: and their d line rotation is not as deep as

655
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 5: it was, you know, like, but they're pretty on good.

656
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: I mean, they're good at all levels. Their corners are

657
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: really strong, linebackers are still tough. Quentin Williams starts to drink.

658
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of edge depth though, and

659
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: we still they still haven't.

660
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 5: The Reddick huff thing hasn't gone.

661
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: Their way out. Reddick's still holding out.

662
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 5: They're counting on like McDonald, you know, the first round pick,

663
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: Jermaine Johnson was the first round pick. But they haven't

664
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: like broken out yet.

665
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and again, how long is Redicks like

666
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: not come in? I think he might it's a whole

667
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: new team. He's got to come in and learn, Yeah,

668
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: a new defense.

669
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 5: I think he might be a bear in the next

670
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: three days. You know. Two Baltimore mostly the Browns at one.

671
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: I mean, division's pretty strong. Yeah, I don't if I

672
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: put the Ravens too though. I mean they lost, they

673
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: lost a lot. They lost a lot, especially coaches. Yeah,

674
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: and Queen. I mean that they prepared for the Queen loss.

675
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 5: They have some stars. I'm a Mattaboo gay believer. I

676
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: think Rokwan and Hamilton are superstars all of a sudden.

677
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 5: Their corner room is really deep. But there's a Jabo

678
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 5: in no way ready to win one on ones consistently.

679
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, talent's there, and I

680
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: got to think the pass rush is going to be

681
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 5: less schemed up. Yeah, I mean it just lose a lot.

682
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: That'd be my top ten for sure.

683
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just don't know that

684
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: they're two based on what they lost this offseason.

685
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Browns would be one for me, though I

686
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: don't love the offenses. All these teams play in the division, Yeah,

687
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 5: and they wouldn't be a distant one. And to start

688
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: our conversations start, the whole thing would not be I'm

689
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: gonna be the one that takes the first defense off

690
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 5: the board because the Browns are so much better than

691
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 5: everybody else the home road. Things really weird. But I

692
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: also think it might be fluky deep down.

693
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: Some of it is and some of it isn't because

694
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: it's so distinct. They gave up like forty points to

695
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: Indianapolis in Indianapolis, they gave up like forty points to Seattle,

696
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: and Seattle like these are not explosive as the city. Yeah,

697
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: these are not explosive offenses that they were playing, and

698
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: they gave up a bunch of points against those teams.

699
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really weird. It's really weird. I mean, it's

700
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: so distinct.

701
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: I just wonder if they play off their crowd noise

702
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: maybe so so well in Cleveland that when they don't

703
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: have that advantage, it's not quite as I.

704
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 5: Mean, it's certainly not true for every game. But I

705
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: always look at like Chicago and Cleveland that you're gonna

706
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: get a mucket up awful weather game, which helps you

707
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 5: be great for that, right, I mean, just where nobody

708
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 5: can run or do anything right, you get two freebies

709
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 5: almost Yah for fantasy.

710
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: They got really nothing out of Zadarius Smith last year.

711
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 5: And how do they call their strengths and weaknesses.

712
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: Strengths edge one, cornerback one, secondary depth, linebacker, coverage, and

713
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: play caller weaknesses. Can't find one. I don't know if,

714
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: like you say, you can't find their defensive tackles aren't great.

715
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: Nah. What do they say about Baltimore's spens and.

716
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: Weaknesses strengths defensive tackle, pressure, linebacker and strong safety, coverage, cornerback,

717
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: man coverage, the weaknesses edge, depth and coaching turnover?

718
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 5: Okay? Pretty well? Said yeah, okay, so but.

719
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: I think, really, when I look at it, you probably

720
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: want to draft if you don't get one of those

721
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: top six or seven defenses, I'm streaming, and I'll probably

722
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: end up streaming anyways just because I don't. I'm not

723
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: going to take one of those teams where everybody else

724
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: is taking those teams. I'm not taking a defense in

725
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: a sixteen round draft before fifteenth round.

726
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: No, I mean maybe the fourteenth round is the earliest. Yeah,

727
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 5: I mean I might take one position player after my

728
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: defense maybe. Yeah. It may always going to be I mean,

729
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 5: if it's something.

730
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: That maybe my backup tight end or something like that.

731
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: If I've got a stud tight end or I get

732
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: a stud quarterback, I'll wait and take my my quarterback.

733
00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: Last.

734
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: But outside of that.

735
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 5: Note to self for me is, but I might need

736
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: to look at the schedule grid and see is there

737
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 5: one of those average defenses that first two games look

738
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: really for it favorable? Yeah, you know, just.

739
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: Playing a couple of rookie quarterbacks playing a team that's

740
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: offensive line is a mess right now.

741
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: New coaches, you know, just bad offenses in general, you know.

742
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 5: So maybe I'll just look and see who's who's gotten

743
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 5: easy week one and two, or even just week one.

744
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: I think that's the way to approach it.

745
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

746
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Again, I don't want to spend that eleventh round

747
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: pick on a defense.

748
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, especially if you're not like getting charged

749
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 5: real money for waiver wire moves or things like that.

750
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: If it's no skin off your nose, there's no reason

751
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: not every time. Yeah. So I think that's a great

752
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 5: way to do it.

753
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: But that was the Underdog Network's defensive rankings of Steelers

754
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: coming in very high on it, as did the Ravens

755
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: and the Browns so much low.

756
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought they'd be higher than that. Yeah, but

757
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 5: we'll see.

758
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. That's going to do it for

762
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Speaker 2: the Fantasy Football Focus. Matt now will be back to

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Speaker 2: finish up the show right after.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

765
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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

766
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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

768
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Speaker 2: v Matt Williamson, and I met some of the other

769
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: news and notes coming in from around the league.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: A lot of players heading to ir Yeah, both short

772
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: term and long term. So let's go over some of those.

773
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure there's some notables.

774
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals placed running back Tony Jones on ir

775
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: BY that season ending offensive lineman Christian Jones, defensive lineman

776
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson placed on short term.

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00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 5: I are their defenses, as we just talked about. It's

778
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: thirty two and it's a mess. Mary Shrobinson is their

779
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: first round pick, I mean yes, and an early pick

780
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: from last year. Ojalari the edge guy, I think is

781
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 5: out a stretch to two of their like talented investment

782
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 5: guys on that side of the ball.

783
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons place linebacker DeMarco Hellams on short term.

784
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 5: I ar okay, I think he's a depth guy. Yeah.

785
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills made a trade for a defensive back

786
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: kick returner Brandon Codrington with the Jets, which is kind

787
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: of surprising.

788
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 5: That is, I wonder if he was going to get cut.

789
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: They placed running back Derrington Evans on short short term

790
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: I R. And Matt Mulano on short term.

791
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 5: I are no, it's only short term for this.

792
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

793
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Offensive tackle Travis Clayton placed on season ending I are.

794
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers have a bunch of guys placed on

795
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: lists here. Jonathan Brooks on the NFI pup list, Tay Davis,

796
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: linebacker placed on injured reserve, Outside linebacker Amari Barnow placed

797
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: on the physically and All to Perform list. Outside linebacker

798
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: Cam Gill placed on injury reserve. Outside linebacker DJ Wanham

799
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: placed on the pup list, cornerback Dan Jackson on short

800
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: term IR, and safety Sam Franklin on short term.

801
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: I are okay, not a ton of huge names, but

802
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 5: for a not deep team. To have that many guys

803
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: banged up isn't great, not good. Yeah.

804
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: The Bears placed Dante Pettis, wide receiver on IR he's done.

805
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 2: Larry Borham and Jake Martin two offensive linemen on short term.

806
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 5: I are okay, forms has started games. Yeah.

807
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals place Miles Murphy short term.

808
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: I R.

809
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: Place Brad Robbins a punter on short term.

810
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: I R.

811
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: Not getting any good Miles Murphy stuff since the first

812
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: round pick.

813
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out like four to six weeks. The Browns

814
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 2: nick Jubb on the Nick Chubb on the pup list,

815
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: Nahim Hines placed on the Non Football injury list.

816
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: That's unfortunate.

817
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Guard Michael Dunn placed on the n f I list

818
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: Non Football injury, and center Luke Wilper change for the

819
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 2: center season ending injured. They also placed the defensive tackle

820
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: Michael Hall on the Commissioner's exemp list following his domestic

821
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: violence arrest.

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'd be concerned about that. Wow, that's our

823
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 5: first pick.

824
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: The Cowboys have traded Peyton Hendershot to the Chiefs for

825
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: conditional twenty twenty six seventh round pick. He's a tight end.

826
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: They also released Royce Freeman.

827
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 5: I wonder if he's hit the end of his rope.

828
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: If you can't make the running backs for the Cowboys,

829
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: probably is so I jp RN among the guys Denver cut.

830
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of talk there trying to dump

831
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 5: him for seventh or whatever.

832
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but once everybody knows you're probably not going to

833
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: keep the game, not going to happen.

834
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 5: Maybe he ends up in Dallas or something.

835
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: They also placed linebacker Drew Sanders on the physically unable

836
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: to perform list. Cornerback the Marie Mathis was on the

837
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: short term injury reserve, and safety the Lron Turner Eel

838
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: placed on the PUP list.

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Speaker 5: Sanders was a pretty high second round pick. Yeah.

840
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Detroit placed Christian mahogany offensive lineman on injured reserve.

841
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: He's done for the year.

842
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 5: I think he had stuff coming out of BC, which

843
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 5: is why he went his latest.

844
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Defensive lineman Broderick Martin placed on short term i R.

845
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Cornerback e Manuel Moseley placed on short term I are okay.

846
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 5: They were all decent investments, though Martin was the third

847
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 5: round pick the year they took Gibbs in the first round.

848
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Packers. Aj Dillon placed on season ending injury preserve.

849
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: He's done. Tight End Tyler Davis also placed on season

850
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: ending IR, and defensive lineman Jonathan Ford goes to the

851
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: short term i OUR list.

852
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: Okay, Dylan's a big name.

853
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: The Texans case, Keenum placed on injured reserve. He has done.

854
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: Defensive end Denico Autry on the reserve suspended list.

855
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 5: He said, oh, I forgot he got suspended. He's had

856
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: some off the field stuff, to say the least.

857
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: Defensive end Dylan Horton placed on the non football list,

858
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: Kurt Heiiness placed on defensive tackle placed on short term

859
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: i R. Linebacker Christian Harris placed on short term.

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00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 5: I ARE okay, he is kind of a leader, important

861
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 5: guy for them.

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00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then safety Brandon Hill placed on season ending

863
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: i AR. For the Colts, wide receiver Jawan Winfree placed

864
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: on season ending IR. Tight end Jelanie Woods placed on

865
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: season ending IR.

866
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: He was something I kind of hoped for again. Yeah,

867
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: that's two years in a row he's been out.

868
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: And then two guys on short term i R. That

869
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: would be defensive end Sampson Ekeubaum and linebacker Cameron Cameron mcgrone.

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00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 5: Now that jelaniy Wood was unfortunately, I kind of been

871
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: holding out hope for him in like Dynasty and things

872
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 5: like that.

873
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. For Jacksonville, safety Andrew Winguard placed on short term

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00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: i R.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a really good special team He's a.

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00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: Starter for them.

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00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

878
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, safety Tayshawn Gibson placed on the Reserve Suspended list

879
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: and running back Keelan Robinson placed on injury preserve season

880
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: over the Kansas City Chiefs, defensive end BJ Thompson will

881
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: begin the season on the non football illness list and

882
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: missed the first four games. Defensive lineman Charles Omenahew begin

883
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: the season on the pup list. They're hoping for a

884
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: November return for him, coming back off in a cl.

885
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: Guy for him, bigger body.

886
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: The Raiders play safety Trey Taylor on the short term

887
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: i R list. The Chargers placed offensive lineman Bucky Williams

888
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: on IR, offensive lineman Tyler McClellan on IR, linebacker Nick

889
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: Neeman placed on short term i R, and Chris Rump

890
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: and Chris Collins both placed on season.

891
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 5: Ending Nothing too tragic there for the Rams.

892
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: Tyler Higby, the tight end, remained on the pup list.

893
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: To start the season as we'll get well, we got

894
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: short term I are for offensive lineman k t Levison,

895
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: defensive lineman Laurel Murchison, and defensive line Trevius or the

896
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: defensive back Trevius Hodges. Tomlinson placed on season ending IR.

897
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: Mmmm kind of like the way he played.

898
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, smaller TCU d back, So Kobe Parkinson is now

899
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 5: clearly the number one tight end for them.

900
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and the linebacker Ernest Jones being traded to

901
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: the Titans Odell Beckham for the For the Dolphins, he's

902
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: headed to the pupp list out at least the first

903
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: four games. River Craycraft goes to short term IR. Offensive

904
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: tackle Isaiah win placed on the pup with list. He's

905
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: at the first four starter for them. Bradley Chubb on

906
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: the pup list, linebacker Wyatt ray placed on IR, and

907
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: camra uh cornerback Cameron Smith placed on short term I are.

908
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 5: Picked. Yeah, right, that's probably the team that's got hit

909
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: the hardest.

910
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so some significant injuries after the Dolphins, particularly on

911
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: the defensive side.

912
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they invested in Odell and you know, right.

913
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: For the Vikings, t J. Hawkinson will start on the

914
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: pup list miss at least the first four games. Guard

915
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: Dalton Rise placed on short term IR, linebacker Jordan Kinnassek

916
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 2: placed on IR, and linebacker Gabriel Murphy on the short

917
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: term I area. For the Patriots, JA Kobe Brissett said

918
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent that's neither here nor there. Wide

919
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: receiver Kendrick Bourne placed on the pup list. Guard Cole

920
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: Strange goes to the pup list, Linebacker Sioni Tacky Techy

921
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: to the pup list.

922
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 5: These are guys that the count on Strange as a starter.

923
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle Christian Barmour the NFI Non Football Injury List

924
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: his blood clots.

925
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 5: That's catastrophic for them.

926
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle Armaan Watts goes to short term I AR

927
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: for them, as does safety Marte Mapu goes to short

928
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: The defense got hit hard.

929
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 5: The defense got hit hard. It was deep to begin with,

930
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 5: and trade Judahon and Barmore, we talked about it.

931
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got some issues.

932
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 5: Wat's played Wealth of the Seelers. That's unfortunate for Yeah.

933
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: For the Saints, running back Kendra Miller, short term I

934
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: are but they're like mad uh uh Yeah. Tight end

935
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: Ken Kevin Raider the former Steeler placed on short term

936
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: I are uh, defensive lineman tano uh i can't pronounce

937
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: his last name, Kepesanoga on the former Chief Former Chief

938
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: he goes on the physically unable to return list. Defensive

939
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: end tackle Cameron Peterson. These other guys haven't heard of

940
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: let's see here. For the Jets, quarterback Jordan Travis will

941
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: remain on the n f I list. Of course he

942
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: where that a C Florida state.

943
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 5: They knew that when they drafted him. Yeah.

944
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Mike Williams began working his way back into

945
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: team practice on Tuesday, so he's still not going to

946
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: practice to the rest of this.

947
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 5: Week's pretty far into things.

948
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: Uh, tight end Kenny Yeboah placed on the n FI list,

949
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: and defensive lineman Lakey Fotu placed on the n f

950
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: I list.

951
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

952
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: For the Eagles, wide receiver in Nias Smith placed on

953
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: the IR list with a designation to return, as was

954
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: tight end albert O m hmm, that might be the

955
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: end of him too, and safety Sydney Brown placed on

956
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: the physically unable to perform lists.

957
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 5: Okay, so those are all guys that have flashed and

958
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 5: showed some promise.

959
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

960
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: San Francisco Elijah Mitchell placed on season ending Yeah, I.

961
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 5: Thought, wow, Mason, somebody better look at and in fantasy,

962
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: I mean one McCaffrey injury away from being really relevant.

963
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: Uh Tellanoah Hauffanega was activated from the pup list for them,

964
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: so he's ready to go, and Khalia Davis defensive lineman

965
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: placed on short term IR. Nobody there for Seattle the

966
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: West Coast teams, you don't get too much.

967
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true. I probably hasn't fielded in yet.

968
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

969
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

970
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: Tennessee Colton dal Dell placed on the Physically unable to

971
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: perform list. Defensive tackle T K. McClendon goes on IR.

972
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: Linebacker Chance Campbell placed on season ending i R. And

973
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: finally for the Washington Commanders, nobody that any of his

974
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: body has ever heard of.

975
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 5: Okay, people who have never been in our kitchen.

976
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: Yes, they did cut Sam Hartman.

977
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: Though, Okay, I didn't think he was very good.

978
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: I didn't think so either.

979
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty with his hair and Notre Dame guy and

980
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 5: all that. Yeah, I didn't think he was really good

981
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 5: a football.

982
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: But for the Steelers those roster cuts no big ones there.

983
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: Quas Watkins goes not a big shock. They did place

984
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 2: Dylan Cook on short term I are as they did

985
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: with the Jeremiah Moon, Cole Holcom goes on the pup list,

986
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: Julius Whitecaw welsh Off, and Ryan Wats go on season

987
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: ending IR. So it looks like that injury for Watts

988
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: was a little bit worse than just a stinger.

989
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: But those guys will be back in camp next year.

990
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 5: I would think, Yeah, the Wats one is the one

991
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 5: that disappointed. Yeah, that one might have been your starting

992
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: gunner that too, and I have hopes for him just

993
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: athletically of being a major, solid contributor in time to

994
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 5: that secondary reminds me of Trice. Yeah.

995
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: According to Mike Garofalo, the Steelers are signing Boston Scott

996
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: to their practice squad.

997
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 5: The running back, short running back.

998
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: He's been around.

999
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you could get you out of games

1000
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: or be the third guy if there's an injury. Yeah,

1001
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 5: So okay, that's one that keeps on that thing.

1002
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just moved.

1003
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 5: So okay, the veterans, you just do it now.

1004
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

1005
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 5: I think he was probably unemployed probably yeah, yeah, because

1006
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 5: he didn't have to clear waivers or yeah, right, so

1007
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 5: all right.

1008
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: That's what we're looking at Steelers roster for now. Yeah,

1009
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: we'll come back and do it tomorrow. We'll probably have

1010
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: some more ideas. Maybe something else will happen on the

1011
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: roster here between now and then.

1012
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 5: You can see some trades around the league. Still the

1013
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: seventh round type moves happening, things like that. Yeah, still

1014
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 5: could be on the horizon. Yeah, there might be pickups

1015
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 5: things like that too.

1016
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there'll be some things that happen between now and then.

1017
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: There'll be some signings and things. Guys who got released

1018
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: somewhere else.

1019
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 5: Don't clear waivers. Yeah, the type of thing too.

1020
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: That kind of thing. So we'll see where that goes.

1021
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: But that's going to do it for our show today.

1022
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1023
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air. We'd also like

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00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: to thank Larry Ogan Jobi for dropping by to chat

1025
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: with us a little bit there. That was good stuff

1026
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: from him. And we'd also like to thank thank you

1027
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: for listening to this edition of the Drive on the Steelers'

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Speaker 2: Audio network.