WEBVTT - #171 - Ella Mai 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.280 Bulet keV Show Special guest lm A. Thank you for 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:06.800 having me, Thank you for coming. It's been a while, 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.520 it has been. I think it's twenty You know what's 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.520 crazy is I met you in twenty seventeen, before you even, like, 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.360 I want to say, before you really had music out. Yeah, 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.120 I think we were. I want to say. It was 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.480 maybe like one or two EPs. It was like very 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.480 pre pre bowed up. Yeah, what pre pre pre booed up? Yeh. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.880 I don't remember who brought you up to the station. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:29.480 I might have been someone from Interscope and they were 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:30.880 just like, hey, we just want to introduce you to her. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.000 She's going to be the next thing. And like Jesus, 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:35.000 and then here you are making the R and B 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.040 music I grew up loving. Oh thank you. Yes, it 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.800 kind of took a while to make this album. And 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.320 you know what I love about your album is like 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.240 when I saw the track list, you know, it's it's 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.440 hard to make an album with that many songs and 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.600 it'd be fire. Thank you, but you made us wait. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.320 So I feel like you made us wait, right, So 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.520 it's like, okay, cool, you made us wait, and you 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.440 know you delivered, so it wasn't like super super intentional 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.480 that I made everyone. Wait, I think everyone one thinks 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.320 that I like disappeared off the face of the earth 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.680 and then like came back. It really was like boot 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.080 up Trip my debut album end of twenty eighteen, and 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.399 then for the whole of twenty nineteen, I toured, Like 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.440 literally January to January twenty twenty, I toured and I can't. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.520 I'm not really like a record on the road, like 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.280 I need to be stationary and like set. So I 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.440 wasn't in the studio. So twenty twenty was always the 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.960 year for me to record. Anyway, it took a little 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.920 bit longer than we planned. Pandemic. Yeah, and the pandemic, 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.520 like I didn't I really didn't want to put something 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.600 out during the pandemic and not be able to like 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.200 work it properly. I feel like everyone kind of at 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.840 first the virtual stuff was cool, but then months in 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.400 everyone was like, I'm sick and tired of seen so tired. Yeah, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.720 so I wanted to make sure I would be able 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.240 to work it properly. So yeah, it took a little 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.600 bit long, but we're here now, Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.360 you got some crazy records on Here Fallen Angel, I 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:50.880 want to say it is one of my favorites. Yes, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.279 I love the outro at the end. Yes, the Arrioti 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.240 record is crazy. Thank you. What would you say, like, 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.720 where did you kind of pull your inspiration from for 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.200 this project? Yeah? I think it was really just my 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.160 life in real time. Like I think with my debut album, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.840 the studio was really like still quite new to me, 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:09.520 and I was like figuring out what I wanted to 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.440 sound like and what I wanted to say. And this album, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.560 I felt like I was super confident in what I 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.240 wanted to say and what I wanted to sound like 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.000 and the message that I wanted to get across. And 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.000 really I was just going in and kind of like 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.239 diary entries almost, and whatever I felt on that day 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.040 is what came out. I sort of felt like, yeah, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.040 did you go through a breakup during the pandemic or something? 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.120 I did? Yeah, so so that there's all that all 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.080 you need is a breakup, a good breakup. But to 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.120 be fair, my album's not a sad album now, but 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.440 there are some moments. You know, there's moments. There's moments, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.520 for sure, but I'm also learning that like life happens 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.519 in moments, Like happiness happens in moments, Sadness happens in moments. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.320 Success comes in moments, and like obviously those moments come 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.480 back they you know, it's like a roller coaster. But yeah, 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.240 there's moments of I think more so moments of happiness, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:57.000 but there's definitely moments of sadness on the album. Yeah, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.040 how old is the right? Like? How long old did 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.639 you guys do the Right? The Roddy record, I want 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.440 to say, we did it last summer, so it's not 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.920 that it's not that old. Yeah, but like fully fully 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.680 finished it, probably top of the year. But Roddy and 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.600 I we we actually did another song first for was 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.320 supposed to be for us this album, and then we 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.200 kind of came back around and we had this. This 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.840 was one of the last records we did on my album. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.000 But from the beginning, the start of me recording, I 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.239 was like, I really want Roddy on this album because 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.000 I'm such a big fan. So it must have made 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.640 it happen. Yeah, do you like, are you conscientious of 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.640 Like I said that, you make the music I grew 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.440 up loving, and I feel like for a while we 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.680 kind of were missing R and B like true R 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.640 and B in terms of like the forefront of music. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.880 But I do feel like it's coming back. But I 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:49.240 feel like you had a lot to do with that. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.480 Are you conscientious of that, like, because I feel like 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.240 you kind of feeled something that was missing, you know 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.440 what I mean? Thank you? First of all, that's that's 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.680 a big compliment. I don't feel like I was super, 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.440 super super aware at the time. I think it's really 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.400 just like, that's the music I grew up on, too, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.840 So it's really just like my influences and who I 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.320 love and the music I love, and that's just the 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.800 music that comes out because that's just what I loved 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.160 listening to and what I love making. I don't think 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.160 anyone could have ever really planned what happened with Brewed 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.880 Up or what happened with Trip. I think it was 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.839 just like clearly something that the industry was missing and 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.359 what people wanted. And I definitely, I definitely do feel 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.279 like it gave R and B a lot more like 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.960 mainstream attention at the time, and then since then it's 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:31.960 R and B has kind of been taken out back 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.760 care but it's still it's still a very hard genre. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.159 If you're not like a crossover. It's still even though 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.680 we're making waves somewhat, it's still a really hard genre 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.440 to work and I think as an R and B artist, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:45.719 you just kind of have to be aware of that 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.960 and just try your best to to like navigate it's 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.560 quite hard to navigate through. Yeah, like money Along, she 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.880 just went number one with like a real traditional R 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.920 and B record. I'm like, this shit is number one 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.840 and two formats and it's very, very hard to do, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.560 very hard. I don't think people understand I used to 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.599 do in touch like a pop or like rap base. Yeah, industry, yeah, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.559 one hundred percent. Talk about like, how did you spend 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.320 your pandemic? Were you here in the States? Were you 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:10.960 back home in the UK? Where were you at? I 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.360 was in the States, Yeah, I couldn't actually leave because 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.320 I was right before the pandemic happened. I was in 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.880 the process of getting my green card, so like, while 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.000 you're in the process, you're not supposed to leave because 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.719 they can deny you like re entry. And then obviously 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.359 COVID happened in the pandemic and the embassy shot, so 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.000 if I would have left that we wouldn't come back. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:29.360 I would have got stuck at home. Yeah, I know 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.719 people who that happened to. Yeah. Yeah, And I was 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.279 in the middle of making an album and I didn't 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.000 want to. I could make an album at home, yes, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.960 but your team's out here, everyone's here, So it was 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.440 just like it would have been really hard for me 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.160 to do that. So I was here. Yeah, I didn't 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.520 go home. The first time I went home was November 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:47.839 that just passed, and that was the first time in 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.000 two years. So yeah, with Buota being such a massive record, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.240 how much did you pay attention to all the remixes 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.240 I made attend? That's all. I saw a lot of 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.719 tea Pain caught a fucking body, killed it, absolutely killed it. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.320 But he like, I don't know why everybody was acting 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.200 so surprised. I wasn't, but I was just like, yah, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.400 I feel like he doesn't get enough credit at all. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.800 Like T Pain is actually a goat. I don't think 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.000 people want to I agree. I agree, he's his. We 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.240 would like to say he's him duncan, Yes, mcpay, he 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.760 is him. He is Like I feel like he really 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.520 created like a new lane when he came out in 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.240 his Like in his prime, there was no one really 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.159 really really doing what T Pain was doing and he 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.800 can actually sing, like I don't think he forms his 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.200 ass off. You know, I've never seen him live. He's 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.360 one of my favorite life offered to see him. Yeah, 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.440 like for the like his size, the way he'd been 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.680 moving around and popping and locking, and I'm just like Jesus, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.599 I've seen videos, but I've never actually experienced it in person. Yeah. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.440 How like when we talk about Mustard, I feel like 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.440 somehow we just talked about T Pain doesn't enough credit. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.520 I feel like Mustard doesn't get enough credit just for 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.800 him being the CEO that he is, the guy that 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.320 he is, and just like the prolific I mean, you know, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.320 not a lot of people have had runs like Mustard. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.000 How involved was he with this project? I feel like 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.800 he was heavily involved in the first project. Like how 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.760 like are his fingerprints all over the album? Yeah, he's 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.520 still he definitely. I think he was definitely more involved 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.880 in the debut, but he's still produced. I think I 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.000 want to say six of the fifteen on this album. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.440 I think I think I'm correct, And I always like 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.240 I don't there's nothing that I do that I don't 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.240 play him like his opinion is really really really important 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.560 to me, and he's never steerd me wrong. So he's 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.160 still super super involved. Whether it's being like, you know, 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.240 the label owner of ten Summers, or whether it's production wise, 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.320 he's still super involved. And he's not like scared to 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.040 tell me that he doesn't like something, and I'm not 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.760 scared to tell him I don't like something, like it's 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.000 super just organic and natural. So he's very involved. Yeah, 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.840 did you feel like there was a I feel like 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.600 there was in like that twenty eighteen twenty nineteen range. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.760 You were on a lot of hooks. You were kind 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.360 of like the go to do you think so, I 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.920 don't feel like, I just I'm thinking of the Meek album. Yea, 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.480 there was a I feel like you were on a 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.960 couple of hooks, right, Not really not really me. Maybe 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.560 I'm just thinking of the Meek I feel like for 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.000 a while there, I just heard you on the radio 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.400 audience see no, because you know what it was. It 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.040 was really wild because boot Up happened, and then Trip happened, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.320 which is all over the radio, and then my album happened, 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.280 and then Meek was like right after my album twenty 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.360 four seven, So the timing of it. I just felt 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.720 like it was LMA Radio for like six months. It 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.040 was like, jeez, I know everyone was tired of it, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.800 like we don't want it is anymore. But yeah, no, 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.200 Meek was really the main twenty four to seven was 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.680 the main feature I did. I didn't really do. 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And 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.640 he killed the Kendrick album. Yes, yes he did, Yes, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.480 Kendrick's album. I haven't listened to it in its entire yet. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.319 So you haven't sat with the whole project yet. No. Yeah, 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.880 I feel like I need to be in a certain 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.400 like headspace in order to properly take it. It took 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.679 me like three days to like sit down because I'm like, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.880 I can't just like this. It can't be back. Yeah, 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.199 I gotta like really sit down and like like hone 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:24.920 in on this because I feel like it's such an 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.760 important album. I want to listen to it passively. So 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.840 I finally did. I was like, I find it. If 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.360 I would to listen to it passively, I would have 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.600 been like, but it's amazing. Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.680 had it, haven't had the chance to, and I want 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:38.880 to do the same. I want to sit down and 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.680 actually properly listen to it, and I haven't been able 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.640 to do that yet, So I will obviously at one point. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.000 But I know I don't expect anything less from what 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.400 about just on the R and B side? Any any 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.000 fellow fellow ladies that you're doing and everyone? Kay Lonnie 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.880 just dropped her album, which shout out to Kay Lonnie. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.720 I listened to a lot of Keana the day like 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.559 you said money just when I know she just put 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.760 out another single. Who else is it. I love Snow 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.200 even though Snows Snow's album is almost a year old now, 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.679 I think, but I listened to it like it came up. Yeah, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.600 Snows music is like very like I just feel like 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.599 it's like it's like when you're listen to on a 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.280 del album, you're like, I could hear this song at 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.839 a wedding in like one hundred and fifty years. So 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.920 I feel like Snow's music is very the Yeah she 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.800 I think you can like I could me personally, I 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.480 can be in any mood, like whether I'm happy, sad, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.480 like energetic or whatever, and Snow's music always just makes 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.560 me feel like I'm like at peace, and I love that. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.560 I feel like you need like a balance of like 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.319 the turn up music and yeah, so Snow, I'm a 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.720 big fan of Snow Jasmine. When you're when you're trying 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.600 to turn up? What is the go to? City girls? 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.240 City girls? Shout out to the city girls. Yes, I 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.960 love them, They're amazing. They Yeah, they're torn. I think 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.520 they're torn with that. Oh Jack b Yeah, shout out 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.040 to Jack Harlan. He's doing Arenas, he's killing it, killing it. Yeah, 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.600 I'm really happy for him. It's very surprised he didn't 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.920 know ray J and Brandy were brother and sister. I mean, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.520 I feel like everyone knows that. I mean we feel 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.600 like everyone knows that because we know it. But like 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.480 I don't think it was like like obviously I know that, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.520 But like maybe he didn't grow up listening to Brandy. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.160 And that's I feel like the Internet tries to like 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.840 they definitely make it's not a big time. It's not 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.640 a big ye stephone. Maybe he didn't get around, like 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:19.920 you know, tapping in with Brandy like he said, he 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.040 was like no one's ever told him that in his life. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.559 That's crazy. Yeah, shout out to Brandy. She's a legend 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.200 on this project. You also got a lot of on 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.560 the album. Lotto has been. She's such a sweetheart, Like 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.640 she's one of my favorite interviews I've done in a 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.480 long time. She's hilarious. Yeah, she's she's actually like so 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.520 personable but just so like super down to earth. She's 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.520 really funny, like you just said, Yeah, I met her 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.160 at studio. We were using the same studio just like randomly, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.600 and she was next door and I just went in 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.000 there and I was like, Hi, I'm a big fan 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.560 and she was like, what are you like? You know, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.880 she was really sweet to me, and she says child, Yeah, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.800 she was really sweet to me. And I had didn't 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.600 say the song that she's on. I had that from 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.199 the start of the recording process that was one of 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.839 the very first ones that I recorded and just never 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.400 had a second verse to it. And I was just like, 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.800 I think this is one that needs a feature. And 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.560 by the time we got around to like figuring the 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.920 features out, I already had already and I already had Lucky, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:15.160 so I was like, I want a female so she 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:16.760 kind of a yeah, a different bag for her to 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:18.679 be into. I feel like, yeah. And I think that's 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.600 what's so interesting about the song too, because I think 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.040 when you look at like Lma featuring Lot, you're like, 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.920 what's what in the world does this sound like? Yeah? 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.480 But she killed it, like literally she when she sent 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.760 me back the verse, it was everything I would have 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.440 wanted her to say, and I didn't even have to. Like, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.920 but I don't like to tell people I want you 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.880 to say this, like, you know, I want you to 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.040 do whatever you do best, because that's the reason I would, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.040 you know, want you to collaborate with me, And that 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.360 was the greatest part about that because the song obviously 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.000 spoke to her in the same way it spoke to me, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.600 and she killed her ver so I was like, yeah, 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.640 she killed it. You're writing process, break this down, because 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.040 I always see artists like I'm in the studio. Obviously 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.600 we're in my recording studio right now, so I always 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.600 see like, you know, I feel like nowadays when it 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.560 comes to rap people unchaining their lines. You're obviously a 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.080 prolific singer. You make prolific music. Thank you. Are you 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.840 writing ideas at home? Are you writing the beats? Like 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.800 how is your kind of like process when it comes 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.760 to like coming up with that is obviously you know, 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:14.720 you can collaborate with other writers, but in terms of 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.680 the stuff that you're like putting your pen down on, like, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.200 like what is that process for you? I don't really 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.560 write at home, like if I have an idea. I know, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.280 like a lot of people will like start writing something 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.880 if they see something whatever. I'm not really that type 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:30.360 of person. I think I have to hear like a 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.160 beat or hear some chords or something like that in 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.960 order for inspiration to like come. I like to work 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.200 off of whatever the beat or the chords make me 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.280 feel like because like I don't want to I don't 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:41.600 want to have an idea and going to the studio 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:42.840 and be like this is what I need to make 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.760 It feels very forced when I do. I know that 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.720 works for some people. I rather just catch the vibe 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.760 to what is that actually going on in the studio 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.840 at that time and figure it out from there. That's 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.480 really what we do most. We kind of like whether 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.000 we're working to a beat or whether we're starting from scratch. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.800 If we're starting from scratch, it'll be like, okay, well 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.760 kind of how do you feel today? And then we'll 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.440 go for there and then obviously the chords will either 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.640 be moody or they'll be happy. But I like to 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.120 write in the studio, what's the song on the album? 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.320 If you had to pick out one song that just 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.040 came the easiest to you, where maybe you had something 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:11.280 on your chest you just had to get it off, 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.000 and it just was like it just happened so easy. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.800 Break my Heart was the quickest quickest one that we wrote. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:19.920 It literally took I don't even think it took more 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:21.520 than half an hour. But it's funny because that's like 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.800 one of my favorite songs on the album. It's like 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:29.000 it's quite simple, like the choruses if I could choose 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.480 who could If I had to choose who could break 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.360 my heart, it would be you, which is a nuts concept. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.640 Everyone's like, girl, what But it's kind of it's kind 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.280 of sweet to say, but like I think people, I 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.080 think people are misconstruing it. Like I'm not saying like 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.520 I'm going to choose you to break my heart if 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.040 I had to choose, like worst case scenario, if I 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.160 had to choose, it would be you. Mm. Is that 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.320 so that's like something you actually went through, right? Yeah? Yeah, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.920 this was my life in real time pandemic heartbreak. Yeah, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.840 I guess you could say that how do you get 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.480 over heartbreak? In the pan because it's a very you know, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:02.880 it was a pretty wild I mean, I don't know 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.200 if you were in LA a lot of the time. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.440 I spent quite a bit in the LA because lahit 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.280 got kind of crazy out here. Yeah. In terms of 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.159 like about that, like the first few months it felt 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.879 like we were in a movie Gotham. Yeah. Yeah, I 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.600 think to be fair, I like I wouldn't say it 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.960