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Speaker 1: Don't you be lave came them off the field to night.

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Speaker 3: It's not the side of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 3: It's the side of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by

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Speaker 1: bet MGM. I'm your host, Tim Kalanowski of Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I'm usually joined by the entirety of BCS themselves, the

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Speaker 1: our beat of our college football coverage that we Brett McMurphy,

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Speaker 1: Colin Wilson, and Stucky. But we're down our b today.

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Speaker 1: Brett McMurphy. You know, in case you haven't notice college football,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of busy season, bowl games, transfer, portal meetings.

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Speaker 1: So Brett he's got boots on the ground doing you know, real,

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Speaker 1: actual big time work while the rest of us, the

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Speaker 1: three of us get to sit here and you know,

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Speaker 1: fire off some hot takes, talk about some bets. Maybe

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Speaker 1: fire on some and react to what has been a

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Speaker 1: crazy week in college football. And so I guess I'll

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Speaker 1: start with I don't know if you've heard this story

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Speaker 1: or up at Florida State they get left out of

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff thirteen to oh Stucky. I know

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Speaker 1: you're pretty much over it, but it is a podcast,

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Speaker 1: and you know people do care about what you have

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Speaker 1: to say and they tune in. So I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: put a little bow on what your feelings have been

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Speaker 1: on Florida State, and I'll make it easy on it.

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Speaker 1: Give you credit because you were banging the drum that

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Speaker 1: Florida State wasn't getting in for over and I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people were kind of shaking their heads

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Speaker 1: saying they'll never leave out of thirteen to zero Power

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Speaker 1: five champ But you were bang on Stuckey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said it for three weeks. I said, I

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Speaker 2: think Florida State's getting left out unless there's a tryout.

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Speaker 2: Their offense has got to look good. I've said this

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Speaker 2: for weeks. I said they're going to be left out.

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Speaker 2: And guess what they put up fifty They threw for

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Speaker 2: fifty yards against a bad Louisville pass defense. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got the four best teams in and it says

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Speaker 2: one of the principles. Another thing that I was looking

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Speaker 2: at is says one of the principles of their decision

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Speaker 2: is if you have a player that will be out

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Speaker 2: that materially impact your play. And people say, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: I won a future in Ohio State when they got

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Speaker 2: into their third string. But here's the thing with Cardil Jones.

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Speaker 2: They put up sixty in the Big Ten Championship. I

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Speaker 2: promise you if Florida State went out there and put

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Speaker 2: up sixty, they get in. They would have had Okay,

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Speaker 2: we have a competent quarterback. We know the defense is good.

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Speaker 2: But they didn't, and I think everyone is.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Besides, I feel bad for Farida State fans, uh the team,

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Speaker 2: not the senators writing a strongly worded letter to the committee.

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Speaker 2: Come on, go do some real work, guy. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for But I think we got the

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Speaker 2: four best teams got I think we got the two.

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Speaker 2: It's the best and the most deserving without any material injury.

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Speaker 2: And I think that they got that right. And you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have the You're gonna have the crowd that says

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Speaker 2: the games don't matter. The games don't matter. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do you like. I'm curious to see what what

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Speaker 2: they'll do be doing next throughout Bowl season and every

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Speaker 2: Saturday next year. And the games do matter. If Alburn

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Speaker 2: State's offense showed that they're not competent without Rodamaker. The

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Speaker 2: games do matter. And Florida State's out, it sucks, and

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Speaker 2: they puted them against Georgia. We'll see all the players

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I've been saying it for weeks. I was

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad that it happened for just betting and

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Speaker 2: entertainment and us talking about the games for the next month. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I tweeted out last week. I mean I

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Speaker 4: that you know if things hold right now, that this

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Speaker 4: I know that's not a part of the committee. And

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Speaker 4: people are like, well, they're on their third string quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I think the thing that really over the last thirty

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Speaker 4: is not I think Florida State fans, coaches, alumni, anyone

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Speaker 4: legitimate gripe. I think you can continue that for a

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Speaker 4: long time. That's fine. I get it. But people in

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Speaker 4: the media I'm talking like stucky and I I'm not

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Speaker 4: talking about people in other spaces, in other college football

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Speaker 4: verticals talking like this is some sort of travesty, like

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Speaker 4: somebody got murdered and this is so bad for college

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Speaker 4: football The reason you have a job in sports media

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Speaker 4: popularity of the sport and the direction that it's going.

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Speaker 4: Florida State in the playoff would have stopped that momentum

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Speaker 4: going into next year. You just got the four best teams. Indirectly,

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Speaker 4: it helps your job. Quit talking about how this is

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Speaker 4: a travesty. This is the best thing for college football

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Speaker 4: that could have ever happened regionally, geographically, money, everything, and

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Speaker 4: we all want the sport to continue going forward and

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Speaker 4: gaining popularity, and Florida State in the playoff was not

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Speaker 4: going to do that. Props to the committee. Balls up,

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Speaker 4: don't have to answer anybody, wash my hands. The twelve

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Speaker 4: team playoff is next year. We move on. And if

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Speaker 4: you really want to be a national champion, Florida State fans,

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Speaker 4: I completely agree. If you beat Georgia and you want

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Speaker 4: to claim yourself as a national champion, do it, do it.

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Speaker 4: I would agree you deserve it. You're undefeated, you beat Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was it was. It was screwed from the jump.

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Speaker 1: Five conferences, four spots, and I think you're kind of

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Speaker 1: foolish if you think that for a second. An SEC

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Speaker 1: these airwives, they get the electric chair. And if you

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Speaker 1: don't think that that's true, just ask why Florida State

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Speaker 1: it's not just because of the SEC paycheck. Along with

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Speaker 1: that comes a you know, unwavering amount of benefit of

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Speaker 1: like I just I kind of push back on people

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Speaker 1: not follow college football? This is how it's been, Like,

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Speaker 1: this is the dumb stuff happens here. It's the same sport.

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Speaker 1: Then now has Washington going to play Rutgers in you know,

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Speaker 4: No? I mean listen, Study mentioned that he cashed an

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Speaker 4: Ohio State future back in twenty fourteen. This is exact

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Speaker 4: same scenario. I'm the reverse of that. I had a

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was the sport went on, games could

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Speaker 2: You're always going to have, you know, faux outrage about

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Speaker 1: That's it, That's fair enough. I mean how else? How

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Speaker 1: ending an insane winning streak, insane run that they were on.

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Speaker 1: Just watching that game stuck you. What what went wrong

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Speaker 1: for Georgia? From your eyes?

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Speaker 2: I mean they lost? So I mean what look, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they weren't like an enormous favorite. It wasn't that shocking

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Speaker 2: know Colin wanted Alabama, but just as a person, you know,

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Speaker 2: thought that the game plan was bad. They ran it

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Speaker 2: how long? And you know, you had Bowers play, you

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Speaker 2: a really good team. It's a close game, but I

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Speaker 2: think if I could point to two things, A couple

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Speaker 2: the frequency of rushing was way off. And even if

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Speaker 2: You got to adjust. Yeah, So yeah, I didn't think that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really love the play calling throughout. So I

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Speaker 1: Well did you see it that way?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Actually, I mean absolutely everything that Stuck said. I mean,

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Speaker 4: when you look at Georgia, they average two point ninety

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Speaker 4: yards per play. They did beat Alabama, but it comes

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Speaker 4: down to, you know the fact that you just made

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Speaker 4: after the brock Bowers injury, that all went away. Not

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Speaker 4: sure where you know the shots downfield. There were no

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Speaker 4: explosive running plays. There were only a handful of passing

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Speaker 5: Seems like they when they all came those exposive passing yards.

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Speaker 5: The first drive eight plays eighty five yards. They had

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Speaker 5: and then Kendall Milton ran for a touchdown, right, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think, you know, even they held Jalen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, comparison, everyone's making the SEC Championship to the MAC Championship. Colin, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I definitely didn't have Oregon minus nine

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Speaker 4: It's really the Oregon defense and the fact that the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that. You know, there was a

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it coming. No one did, because for

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna run on Texas. I mean, we just

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Speaker 1: Well you're since you're talking about it, we'll get into

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Speaker 2: I don't personally, I gotta Michigan Alabama line is gonna

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Speaker 2: So if anything, I could see that line. You know,

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Speaker 1: Of where a percent of the tickets eight of the dome, which.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's wrong. Some people always just think that

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Speaker 2: It's not like this thing is sitting on seven seven

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Speaker 1: Well, on time is time of the essence here, you know,

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Speaker 4: No, I agree with Stuck on how the market is

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Speaker 4: That one's just going to be a pure let's see

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Speaker 4: of went up to sixty four and a half. But

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Speaker 4: you know, we'll see. We'll talk about the total later.

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Speaker 4: But I think Washington has a real shot of winning

434
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Speaker 4: that game. And then on the other side, again, I

435
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Speaker 4: have a lot of Alabama futures at nine to one

436
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Speaker 4: are better and I'm letting them ride. I am not

437
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Speaker 4: going to be hedging with Michigan whatsoever. I don't believe

438
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Speaker 4: in JJ McCarthy's passing, and if they want to get

439
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Speaker 4: into a shootout like they did with TCU last year,

440
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Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, if the passing game wakes up,

441
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Speaker 4: Alabama's ready to do that too, and I think they

442
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Speaker 4: can do it a lot better from an explosiveness perspective. Plus,

443
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Speaker 4: if you are just going to rely on Blake Korn

444
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Speaker 4: to run off tackle or try to run inside zone,

445
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Speaker 4: Alabama is going to chew you up and spit you out.

446
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Speaker 4: So I don't see any advantages really for Michigan in

447
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Speaker 4: this game. If I didn't already have Alabama futures, I'd

448
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Speaker 4: be hitting Alabama today right now.

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Speaker 2: I like the one number. The one thing that I

450
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Speaker 2: would bet now is I would bet if you like

451
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Speaker 2: the under, I lean the under at Michigan Alabama. I

452
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: don't think the Michigan offense is no explosive this right now.

453
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Speaker 2: I think both teams are going to play conservative early on.

454
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 2: They're not fast teams, but that would goes even slower

455
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Speaker 2: when the stakes have been the highest this year. And

456
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Speaker 2: I think Kyle you brought off that TCU game. I

457
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: think Michigan is like we got away from ourselves and

458
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: who we are last year in this game. So I

459
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Speaker 2: think they're going to go back to their roots and

460
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Speaker 2: play this more close to the vest. And what did

461
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Speaker 2: I say before, two amazing punters in this game. So

462
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Speaker 2: you get two amazing punters and two teams that play slower.

463
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Speaker 2: You could have easily just the field position gets flipped

464
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Speaker 2: a bunch and then the drives will take a lot

465
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Speaker 2: of a clock away. So and the reason I bring

466
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Speaker 2: that up is if you do like the under, I

467
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Speaker 2: still again, I haven't dove in completely, but it's at

468
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Speaker 2: forty five and a half, so you know forty five

469
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Speaker 2: is key.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And keep your eye on the weather. Last year

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Speaker 4: I was at the Rose Bowl for Penn State in

472
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Speaker 4: Utah and the rain in La Pasadena was coming down

473
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Speaker 4: and that made it a slick surface, and cam Rising

474
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Speaker 4: and Penn State both got a couple of explosives aided

475
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Speaker 4: by the turf that was getting chunked up. So keep

476
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Speaker 4: your eyes on the weather there. I agree with stuck

477
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Speaker 4: on the under and the explosives. The question is is

478
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Speaker 4: Michigan to show up and try to play the TCU

479
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Speaker 4: game semi final from last year or two years ago

480
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Speaker 4: where they tried to run completely into the mouth of

481
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Speaker 4: the Georgia defense and they got blown out. So we'll see.

482
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Speaker 4: But you know, as far as playing the game in

483
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Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl, keep in mind that that this is

484
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Speaker 4: you know, what the surface conditions are there and that

485
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Speaker 4: the field can become a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got talking. We uh, you know, futures. Unfortunately r

487
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Speaker 1: I P Colin bo Nick's futures bo Nix Heisman futures

488
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Speaker 1: looks like Brett Sky Jalen Daniels gonna win the Heisman,

489
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Speaker 1: massive massive favorite here. Well, I'll just kind of ask this.

490
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Speaker 1: We kind of the theme of this show, you know,

491
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Speaker 1: mostly lobbied by Brett, is, Look, it's gonna go to

492
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Speaker 1: the best best player on the team that's in the

493
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Speaker 1: playoff for the best team. That's not gonna be the

494
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Speaker 1: case this year. It's gonna go to Daniel's LSU team

495
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Speaker 1: that's not in the playoff. Is that stuck? He's that?

496
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Speaker 1: Is that good for college football? And does that change

497
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Speaker 1: the way we do this going forward? Or it doesn't

498
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Speaker 1: really matter because we're getting into a twelve team anyway,

499
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Speaker 1: because essentially we kind of as a group led by Brett,

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Speaker 1: we're wrong essentially, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, pedis it's still with it though I don't know

502
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Speaker 2: what how evens think other humans they could just say

503
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Speaker 2: the look, they're undefeated. Pennis just had to he had,

504
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Speaker 2: you know, a stretch where he wasn't that great. But

505
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Speaker 2: I think he could.

506
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Speaker 1: Well, he's nine to one right now, he's nine to one.

507
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Speaker 2: He could easily make a case for him. I but

508
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Speaker 2: I mean from everything that I've read, it's probably with

509
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Speaker 2: Daniel's I don't know, does it matter long come now?

510
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Speaker 2: It's an award we we can move. We will move

511
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Speaker 2: the goalpost every year for who we want to give

512
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Speaker 2: it to, So it's it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. It was Bonix's award to lose,

514
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Speaker 4: and he lost it. So can Pennix come? I don't know,

515
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Speaker 4: three nineteen yards only a TD against Oregon, I'm not

516
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Speaker 4: You're not going to have the TD ratio that you're

517
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Speaker 4: gonna need when it stacks up it. The problem is

518
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Speaker 4: is most of the voters look at the wrong stats,

519
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: and the wrong stats that they're looking at will make

520
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Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels look like the greatest thing that's ever happened

521
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Speaker 4: in college football since maybe Lamar Jackson. So Pennix has

522
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Speaker 4: a shot. I definitely think he's in the conversation when

523
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Speaker 4: you have an undefeated team that's in the Collegeable Playoff

524
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Speaker 4: and contending for a national title, but he's not going

525
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Speaker 4: to have it from a statistics perspective. So it just

526
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Speaker 4: leans on what kind of voter you are. If it

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Speaker 4: is it a team award or is it a complete

528
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Speaker 4: individual award? And if it is an individual award, then

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Speaker 4: sucking And I'll be right back here talking about Bailey's appy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Colin, what are the right stats? Then? Who

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Speaker 1: are the right stats favor? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean TD I think TD total is important, but

533
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Speaker 4: also the you know, I think available yards, I think

534
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Speaker 4: success rate, I think continuity, I think you know, all

535
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Speaker 4: purpose tds. I think you know, if your team makes

536
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Speaker 4: the playoff, I think it's a big deal. I think

537
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Speaker 4: if you're having an undefeated that's an even bigger deal.

538
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: I mean, LSU did not win in multiple games where

539
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels didn't show up. We wouldn't be having this

540
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Speaker 4: Florida State conversation if he would have showed up in

541
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Speaker 4: the very first game of the season. And in my opinion,

542
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Speaker 4: when you play your biggest competition, you should have your

543
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 4: best stats. And that didn't always show up, you know,

544
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Speaker 4: And I think it became a farce at the end,

545
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Speaker 4: to tell you the truth. I mean, it's they were

546
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Speaker 4: trying to do everything they could against Texas A and

547
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Speaker 4: M to pad Jayde and Daniels stats, except they forgot

548
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 4: they were trying to win the game. So eventually he

549
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: had to start handing the ball off, and he eventually

550
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Speaker 4: had to start using the rest of the team. And

551
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Speaker 4: that's where it's like, what are we voting for here?

552
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 4: A guy that would sacrifice an LSU win to Texas

553
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Speaker 4: A and M just to win this award. I mean,

554
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Speaker 4: that's where it's like, I mean, what are we doing here?

555
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Speaker 4: It has to have some sort of merit that you

556
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Speaker 4: lead your team to an undefeated season, make it into

557
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Speaker 4: the playoff, and you have enough counting stats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but said it Altiate doesn't. It's not going to

559
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Speaker 2: matter next year. We'll have a different argument. And yeah,

560
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Speaker 2: I know that Brett says that. But twenty sixteen Lamar

561
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Speaker 2: Jackson won, they lost four games.

562
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Speaker 1: Williams too. That wasn't a playoff team, right, you know.

563
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Speaker 4: Well a lot of other a lot of other people

564
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: took them. I mean C. J. Stroud and Bryce Young

565
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: took themselves out of the Heisman running same they with Bonix.

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Speaker 4: What happened Bonus last year is what happened at c J.

567
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Speaker 4: Stroud and Bryce Young last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right stucky obviously, but it's we It's funny.

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Speaker 1: I mean it, which Brett was here, but it was

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Speaker 1: we were kind of like, hey, it's gonna be I guess,

571
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Speaker 1: I guess what's happened the last two years is the

572
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Speaker 1: last week the play the person that controlled their own

573
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: destiny failed. They they lost it instead of grabbing it.

574
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Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of a ten.

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Speaker 2: And he didn't right right.

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Speaker 1: Well, speak of quarterbacks, we the portal has some incredible

577
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks stepping in and possibly on the move, possibly testing

578
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Speaker 1: the NFL notables Dylan Gabriel from Oklahoma, Camera Ward from

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Speaker 1: Washington State, Riley Leonard, Duke, Dante Moore, U C l A,

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Speaker 1: Will Howard, k State, DJ Wi Angele, Oregon State, Racey

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Speaker 1: McCall Coastal, Colin Mccordahouse, Tyler Shock, Texas Stack, Tyler Van

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Speaker 1: Dyke Miami, Max Johnson text saying sounds like he's going

583
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Speaker 1: to North Carolina or he is. Any of these names

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Speaker 1: stick out is you know you're kind of like salivating, Hey,

585
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Speaker 1: this would be an ideal spot or surprised. You know.

586
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Speaker 1: I love having fun with this stuff. I know we

587
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Speaker 1: people say, oh, it's free agency, but I think it's

588
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: a blast. Honestly.

589
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: Kyle McCord could win the Sun Belt, so we'll see

590
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Speaker 4: where he ends up. Same thing with Tyler Shook. You

591
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: never know. Grayson McCall. He hopped in the Portal last

592
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Speaker 4: year and came back out a little bit of whispers

593
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Speaker 4: around there being he's a system quarterback, more of a

594
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Speaker 4: Jamie Chadwell product. So we'll see. His NFL draft prospects

595
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: definitely went down, so we'll see what.

596
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Speaker 2: I think he's almost guaranteed to go to NC State.

597
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Dante Moore. I mean that's going to

598
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Speaker 4: be the highest bidder, and I believe that's going to

599
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Speaker 4: be Miami, So we'll see. But I mean Riley Leonard

600
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Speaker 4: a Notre Dame is extremely interesting from a national perspective.

601
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Speaker 4: Next year, I would almost no looking at it anything

602
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Speaker 4: else without looking at schedules or anything. Say, Notre Dame's

603
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Speaker 4: got a spot in a twelve team playoff with Riley

604
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Speaker 4: Leonard as a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. I would say Dante Moore,

606
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Speaker 2: maybe Ohio State. I could see happening. Some people were

607
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Speaker 2: saying Michigan. I don't really see the fit there. Maybe

608
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Speaker 2: Will Rogers Washington. I could see. I really I could see.

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Speaker 1: You know.

610
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Speaker 2: What really makes sense to me is, uh, it looks

611
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Speaker 2: like Will Howard is going to USC for where it's worth.

612
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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard, I mean, uh, we could Riley flew to

613
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Speaker 2: see him. Dyan grab Rules confirmed to Oregon. I think

614
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Speaker 2: that's a really good get for the Ducks. Tyler van

615
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Speaker 2: Dyke makes a lot of sense to Louisville. For me,

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Speaker 2: I think Grayson McCall is gonna go to NZ State.

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Speaker 2: Who else? Who else do we have on the list?

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Speaker 1: Probably DJ? Do you think DJ will go to Michigan State?

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Speaker 2: No, I think the other kid's gonna go Chiles. He's

620
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Speaker 2: probably get more upside. I think he's gonnaen up the

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Speaker 2: Michigan State Dju. We've seen, We've seen enough he's I mean,

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Speaker 2: he could end up somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Like you're telling me, it's money, which Indiana will have,

624
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Speaker 4: by the way, but it's it's money for DJ. It's

625
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Speaker 4: all money related. Nothing about system fit, nothing about a

626
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Speaker 4: former coach or quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't mention too calling your guy kJ Jefferson.

628
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Speaker 4: Yeah, kJ is snapping pictures of his ceiling and saying

629
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Speaker 4: I haven't made my decision yet. So the thing is.

630
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Speaker 4: The thing is is he does not fit a Patrino offense.

631
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Speaker 4: A perfect Patrino offense has a player like Ryan Mallett,

632
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Speaker 4: a pocket passer standing six foot seven, six foot eight

633
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: that could just drill darts and read progressions in two seconds.

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Speaker 4: That is not kJ Jefferson football. I wouldn't be surprised

635
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Speaker 4: if a kJ is not going to find an il

636
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Speaker 4: money somewhere else, and b if Patrino and Sam Pittman

637
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Speaker 4: say this is an open competition next year. So that's

638
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Speaker 4: that's my that's my asked about what's going on down.

639
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: At the hill.

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Speaker 2: Also Georgia, some people are saying Carson Back could be

641
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Speaker 2: a first or second rounder, but they say if he stays,

642
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Speaker 2: they'll be like a top five. So he stays. Vandergriff

643
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Speaker 2: is gone, and I'm told Vandergriff to Kentucky's pretty dumb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I already saw a report that Vandergriff

645
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Speaker 1: is in, but I don't know if he's officially put

646
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: his name in. My favorite name on the board is

647
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: is cam Ward of Washington State. I like I. I

648
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: think Ohio State would be a pretty good fit from

649
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: what we've seen past Ohio State quarterbacks. I feel like

650
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: he is he is worth a ton.

651
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: Say it with cam Ward, I don't like his He

652
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: has a lot of talent, but then you see games

653
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: where teams are pressure him and he falls apart.

654
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: So he's got to have an offensive It moves the needle.

655
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: If he has an offensive line, that's it.

656
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're gonna go You're gonna to win a

657
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: national championship, which which is shoppy Ohio State's goal. You're

658
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: gonna have to get through some games where you're getting pressured.

659
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know, we'll see.

660
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Do you think someone like Dante Moore, which it was

661
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: kind of a mystery at u c l A with

662
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: some injuries and whatnot, do you think that? And I

663
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: think you know, you guys are really high on him

664
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: in the in the preseason talk about if he starts

665
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: for u c l A. U c l A got

666
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: to be play on, does he not?

667
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: You guys? That's Kyle Collin's gap this year was his

668
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: u c l A takes.

669
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm completely willing to defend it. I mean, the big

670
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: thing there is Chim Kelly was struggling to get maximum

671
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: production out of uh DTR for years and then he

672
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: brought in Seth Gunderson to be his quarterback coach from

673
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: San Jose State. The final two years of Dorian Thompson

674
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: Robinson were electric cut down on the mistakes completely. So

675
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: I took the hiring of quarterback uh you know of

676
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: Gunderson Ryan Anderson, sorry, as a positive thing for Dante

677
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: Moore as they tried to shape him in the mold

678
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: of DTR. It was a complete disaster. And you noticed

679
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 4: that Ryan Anderson was has already departed, and I believe

680
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: he's the offensive coordinator at Oregon State now. So there's

681
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: a disconnect between Chip, his quarterback coach, and Dante Moore's handlers,

682
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: which the recruiting was a little bit figgle. His attitude

683
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: with the coaching staff and Chip was a little questionable,

684
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: especially with Colin Shelee and Ethan Garber's in town. So

685
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 4: we'll see where Dante Moore goes. Is the noise and

686
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: the traffic and the drama off field going to follow

687
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: we'll see Yeah.

688
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: No, no question the talent with him, We just we

689
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: just have to see it. How about Colin Patrino, Patrino,

690
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've heard you. I don't know

691
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: if I've heard your take on the on the matter yet.

692
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Apologies if I missed it on Twitter and whatnot. How

693
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: big is this? You gotta be pumped?

694
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: Uh?

695
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 4: Oh, it's huge. I love it. I love it. I

696
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: don't listen. I live in Baptists. There's a lot a

697
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 4: lot of religiously tied people around here that really hate

698
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: the Patrino has been hired. They don't like what happened,

699
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: how it ended. I'm not going to get into that.

700
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: I think it's great. I don't care about your integrity.

701
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 4: I don't care what you do off the field as

702
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: a coach. Your personal life is none of my business.

703
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: I do care about wins, I do care about losses,

704
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: and frankly, this was the one of the best options

705
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: to come in here and clean up our offense. You

706
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: don't give him head coaching duties. You allow him only

707
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: to focus on the offense and get his system in place.

708
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: And unlike Texas A and M, he will not have

709
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: handcuffs Pittman is not going to come into his room

710
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 4: and tell him it's going to be a b and see.

711
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: Petrino is going to be completely in charge of that.

712
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: Pittman can return to the role that he's always been

713
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: best at, which is player counselor CEO, recruiter, little bit

714
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: offensive line dipping. That's it. And you know, I love

715
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: the higher. I absolutely love the higher. I think it's

716
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: a positive. We just need the players which we don't have.

717
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: We don't have SEC level players right now, especially on

718
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: the offensive side of the ball. So we'll see what

719
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: the portal and what recruiting does for.

720
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean real quick in the Arkansas Weeds here. Do

721
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: you think Pittman wanted this because he could be hiring

722
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: his successor.

723
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 4: They have a good relationship. Pittman has a great relationship

724
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 4: with Barry otom now at UNLV, barriotem has a great

725
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: relationship with Patrino. I think there's a lot of mutual

726
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 4: respect between all of these coaches, and I believe Patrino

727
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: was the number one choice. But if it doesn't work,

728
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: Pittman's done. And he knows that when you have this

729
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: many coordinator changes and it doesn't work out, if you

730
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 4: don't get seven eight wins next year. I don't even

731
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure if six is going to be

732
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: able to save his job.

733
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the bet, and if it works out, it

734
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: works out.

735
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: Well.

736
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: It's the same thing we're investing in the Devil to

737
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: get us out of a hole, and it's either going

738
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: to go fabulous and get us to a Sugar Bowl

739
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 4: like we did in twenty ten, or it's going to

740
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: be in flames like it was after Petrino fell off

741
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: the bike.

742
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Stuck you with some of the notable like head coaching moves,

743
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: Mike ALCO's going back a and m Is there any

744
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: of these that have caught your eye, maybe from a

745
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: play on perspective in that this team should be trending

746
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: out I like where they win or vice versa.

747
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: No.

748
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: I just spent forty eight hours going through five hundred

749
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: and seventy names in the portal and getting our Bowl

750
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: up tracker updated. I have not even begun to think

751
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: about next year.

752
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: We're focused on this week, fair enough.

753
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a quick clog that should be up this morning.

754
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: I went through every single portal name for every team

755
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: listed to everyone that's in it, backups, where what the

756
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: backups will be, where warranted doing injuries now? And I

757
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: listed all the snap counts for people. It took me

758
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: two days, two full days.

759
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: You're out of your mind. So that moves us to

760
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: the one game this weekend, Army Navy Stucky, your favorite.

761
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: I'll step beside here and let you to argue over

762
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: the total in the game, which is twenty eight.

763
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's twenty seven and a half. Now, I've said

764
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: since we've been doing this podcast that and for what

765
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: it's worth, you know, you're I think Army Navy games

766
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: have gone under with fifteen straight years before that double

767
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: overtime went over. It's I said, literally for five years.

768
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: Well we've been doing this podcast. I've said it for longer.

769
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: I make it thirty three every year. The colin can

770
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: attest to that. I make it thirty three. I always

771
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: make it thirty three, thirty two, thirty four. Reading that

772
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: ball far, this is the lowest runner by over four points.

773
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: And it's a market. So if you look back at

774
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: Army Navy, for example, you know, just to throw out

775
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: two numbers, the Service Academy unders are fifty ten and

776
00:38:54,719 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: two over the last twenty years. But if you go

777
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: back to the past thirty Army Navy games, twenty four

778
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: of the thirty have gone over twenty seven and a half.

779
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: And if it gets down to twenty six and a half,

780
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: twenty seven of the thirty games went up twenty six

781
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: and a half. So there's levels to it. Now the

782
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: market is caught on and the total keeps coming down

783
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: and coming down. So if every year for the past

784
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: thirty years the Army Navy total was two and a half,

785
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: everyone it would be like, this is the easiest over

786
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: of all time. It's gone over. Now it's come down.

787
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: It's not the same story anymore. So under twenty eight.

788
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: I always I told Colin and R Bruss for years,

789
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: I said I would only consider the over once it

790
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: gets below twenty eight. Here we are, I actually want

791
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: twenty six and a half. The game's landed on twenty

792
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: seven a bunch, and it's you know, when you're when

793
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: you're this low score, every point is very meaningful. I

794
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: don't think weather's gonna be an issue. That's something off

795
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: the look later in the week. I like Army initially,

796
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of injury quarterback injury uncertainty with Navy,

797
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: like literally three quarterbacks or we don't know if they're

798
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: gonna play, if it'snna be crush from Broxi Woodson. So

799
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: there's a lot that I stilled to dig into initial

800
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: thought as I trust the Army offense more. Both defenses

801
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: know how to defend what the other is running. But

802
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: I trust Bryce and Daily and the Army offense a

803
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: bit more so as of right now, not gonna be

804
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: a big play, but go Army beat Navy.

805
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: Army is a two and a half point favorite.

806
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: We take the money line, by the way, because like

807
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: they're every point.

808
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: It's the game, is it? Jillette Stadium. I was considering going,

809
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: but I was thinking about it. I'm like, I'm gonna

810
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: I love the pageantry, all this. I'm just gonna show

811
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: up and then not really much happens during the game.

812
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot before and after Colin, I

813
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: guess your rebuttal or maybe you're you're on the same side,

814
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: is stucky here.

815
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: Case you're new to my face or my work. This

816
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: will be the sixth year I've covered an Army Navy

817
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: game for Action Network. I've taken an over all six years.

818
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 4: Last year went over rode it, wrote it up I

819
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: said this game is going to overtime. Bet the six

820
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: to one prop. It's going over because of overtime. Guess

821
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 4: what happened overtime and over? Twenty seven is the number here.

822
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm staring at it, twenty seven and a half at

823
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 4: a couple of pretty big shops. When that twenty seven hits,

824
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: Birds will be in flight, money will be down and

825
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: it will be over. Twenty seven will be the play side.

826
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll defer to Stuck on that. I'm gonna

827
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: have a full game right up on action, but I

828
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 4: haven't gotten into who we want to take on the side.

829
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: Generally three is good, but I doubt you're going to

830
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 4: get that. You're down. You're not gonna get three on Navy.

831
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: This thing is probably going to hover and a dead

832
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 4: between pick in two and a half. So, but Stuck

833
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: is right. Every point counts here. But definitely twenty seven

834
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: is the buy number. And when I see it today

835
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 4: or sometime this week, Birds will be in flight.

836
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: It seems I was just thinking here, and I know,

837
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: I know it's blasphemy in the college game, but like

838
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: with the numbers, like they are, tease Navy up to

839
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: eight and a half and get the uh end the

840
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: over as well, tease it down like I mean, there's

841
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: so so little variance in this game. Like I know

842
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: we don't do that, but you know, anyone.

843
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: Ever gonna tease a side, I would tease. You know,

844
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: you can tease Navy. It's like the one time you

845
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: could tease the college side.

846
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: You're going to cross three and seven.

847
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, three and seven with a total of twenty eight.

848
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't tease a total, So I would just

849
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: tease it with like you know, I feel like Alabama

850
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: get them over a touchdown or something.

851
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think if marijuana is a gateway drug

852
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: to black tar heroin, this is your slippery slope if

853
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 4: you're going to tease because that you don't tease college

854
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: football ever, right, you don't.

855
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: You don't tease the college although you.

856
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Should just know that or total, so you should just

857
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: keep that as a golden rule. Right, But if you're

858
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: ever going to go this is the one time.

859
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: If yeah, you are allowed for all of you touts

860
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: out there, you are allowed a one time teaser per year,

861
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: and this is the game, so go ahead and sell it.

862
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: It's like I'm looking at a baseball score here, I'm like,

863
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting you know, you tell you, oh,

864
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: you're going through three and seven. I'm like, yeah, well

865
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: three and seven feels like I'm getting thirty and seventy.

866
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: It's like it's I like what you guys said on

867
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: your on your show on Sunday and looking at these

868
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: bowl games and getting you know, talk about on Sunday

869
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: when all these opened, getting a piece on some sort

870
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: of a side and then or total and then there's

871
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: so much line movement you can kind of hedge out

872
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: of it, you can double down. I'll say, you know,

873
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: there's been some pretty big line movement with announcements of quarterbacks, injuries, transfers.

874
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: When you're looking at this slate, is there a certain

875
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: map that you're eyeing, a certain theme that you're excited about?

876
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: Stocky for you, probably Arizona. I made sure to get

877
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: them on the money line before that move because I

878
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: listen to what you tell me in Arizona should be

879
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: in the college football playoff. Yeah.

880
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a lot of it. A lot of its information.

881
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: There's matchups, there's motivation, there's getting the best number. There's many,

882
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: many different layers to it. Uh. Now it's even more

883
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: difficult because you can't really predict a portal which is

884
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: now crazier than ever, and you're gonna have quarterbacks that

885
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: going to the portal but still play. That's the thing.

886
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: Just because someone goes in to the portals and me

887
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: they don't play. For example, I bet, yeah, I bet

888
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: Miami Ohio aviy On Smith. If he doesn't play, I'm fucked.

889
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was gonna go into the portal.

890
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: But you're down to a third you know, the third string, Matt.

891
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: I think he's Henry Hessen. It is his name, and

892
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm done. Although Miami's Ohio could still win with their

893
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 2: special teams, they was just at the win like seven

894
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: to six, and then you know, with Ohio eight, I

895
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: bet six and a half, assuming they're gonna have a

896
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: ton of opt outs, and they did and so that

897
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: worked out. So you know, I wouldn't bet everything early,

898
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: but the ones that you really like early and then

899
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: just accept that some might go your way, some of

900
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: the portal stuff might not. Over time, that stuff will

901
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: even out. But my favorite one, now I don't care

902
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: that it moved, because I think it's gonna move more

903
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: is Missouri Ohio State I think I think Missouri will

904
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: if everything, if everything happens, how I think it's gonna happen.

905
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: I think Missouri's gonna close. Is like a three and

906
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: a half four point favor so there's still a ton

907
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: of value in there. McCord went to the portal, he's done,

908
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: and then that, and then Ohio State didn't. I mean, look,

909
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 2: they were supposed to go. They were one game away

910
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: from one of the playoff so they're gonna be disappointed.

911
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: And they have all these pros that are gonna sit out.

912
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: I doubted Buca plays, Plumbing went to the portal. I

913
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: doubt Harrison plays. Then you got about five or six

914
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: defenders that I all think are gonna sit out. And

915
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: then on the other side, this is a huge game,

916
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: the biggest game Missouri's program history. They've come out and

917
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: the these are some of the things. With the tea leads.

918
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: They have a corner who's maybe hurt, who might not play.

919
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: They have a couple other pros, potential pros. Every single

920
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: person to a tea drink which came out and he

921
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: said everyone's playing. Uh. They asked one of the potential

922
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: pros to Missouri, you did you Robinson do you think

923
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: about he said, I'd never thought about it one second.

924
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: We're playing. We're all playing, so they're excited for this game.

925
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: They're all gonna play Ohio State. I don't think really is.

926
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: And then who's there gonna be their quarterback? Is either

927
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: gonna be like Tristan Gebbia the Oregon State He's just

928
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: like a basic Oregans. He's like the seventh year senior.

929
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: But it's or might be Devin Brown if he's healthy enough.

930
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: What does Devin Brown do? He like tries to run

931
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: into walls. What can you not do against Missouri is

932
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: run the ball, So then you have it's the matchup too.

933
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: So I think eventually this is a game where and

934
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: I know how to say this other their backup receivers

935
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: are also talented. But this is a good match care level,

936
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: the portal, the players that are playing, and I think

937
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: the line's going to keep going. So anything Missouri is

938
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: a dog I think is good.

939
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's already in the app. I didn't even shove

940
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: the points over. I was happy to throw a lot

941
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: of cheddar on Missouri money because I feel the exact

942
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: same way as Stucky. This thing is going to close

943
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: with Missouri as a favorite. I'm not even sure that's

944
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 4: going to be enough for what drink Witz wants to

945
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 4: do to an Ohio State program. What a recruiting tool

946
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: in the portal and with eighteen year olds that are

947
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: finishing up high school football that we went down to

948
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: a New Year six bowl game and spanked Ohio State

949
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: and Ohio State team that cannot take advantage of the

950
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: Missouri defense that is leaky in the secondary and leaky

951
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: against explosive plays in the air. Ohio State has none

952
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: of that going into this bowl game. And if you're

953
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: going to get at walk on Cody Schrader winning the

954
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 4: Broils at War coming down there, he's coming down there

955
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: to eat Ohio State's launch. If Luther Burden is playing

956
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: in this game, that's one of the best wide receivers

957
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: that's probably going to be playing in any bowl game.

958
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 4: So all the motivation in the world here from Missouri.

959
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: Another game where high motivation that I dipped into is Northwestern.

960
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: You see a lot of Utah players starting to opt

961
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: out here of this bowl game. That doesn't mean I mean,

962
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: I think there's a certain point where you stop buying Northwestern.

963
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 4: Maybe that gets down to four three and a half

964
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: somewhere around that. This is still a very low ceiling

965
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: team when you come into Northwestern, but they are highly

966
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: motivated to go up against a Utah team that has

967
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: just been playing musical chairs with all of their positions

968
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: on the field. So but they you know, Kyle Whittingham

969
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: is a guy who generally has an extremely good against

970
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: against the spread record in bowl games. So keep your

971
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: eyes open there. But I would grab Northwestern now before

972
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: it goes down even farther.

973
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: Okay, quickly, two more bowl questions. Is there certain teams?

974
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: I know the Missouri situation because they're going to be

975
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: super up for the game. Ohio State doesn't really give

976
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: a shit. Are there certain teams, certain coaches, certain programs

977
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: that you are able to eye ahead of time that

978
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: usually have a lot of opt outs and vice versa.

979
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Or is that not really a catch all because it

980
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of changes, like the Tide's.

981
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: Just it depends on the team, their expectations. The coach

982
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: who opts out first, like the quarterback opting out. You know,

983
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: then you're like, all right, why why am I going

984
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: to play? And usually it's like it's kind of sometimes

985
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: it's like all or nothing type stuff right if you have,

986
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: and then that's a huge signal, like Missouri ISPs saying

987
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna play, that's the signal that they care.

988
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: Right.

989
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: And then once a couple, like if the quarterback is

990
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: sitting out or transferring, he's the leader of the team,

991
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: that's probably a sign that things aren't great. They don't

992
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: really care that much and they don't want to like fit.

993
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: You know, for example, Jordan McLeod, here's the one James

994
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: Madison has. You know, a couple they have five of

995
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: their best defenders in the portal, Jordan McLeod, the conference player,

996
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: the other quarterback in the portal. They all said their plan, uh,

997
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: and they want to finish the job. So they got

998
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: six guys including the quarter back, all in the portal

999
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: and they're all playing even though their coach isn't there.

1000
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: That's the other thing that the coach league. Sometimes that

1001
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: could be a signal that But in James James Madison's case,

1002
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: the cloud all the defenders they're playing. So sometimes it

1003
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 2: really just depends on the team, the expectation and uh.

1004
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: Like for example, Utah last year they were playing you know,

1005
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: Penn State and the other Now they're playing Northwestern. I

1006
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: mean what, it's kind of hard to care for that

1007
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: about that.

1008
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: So the one game this really applies to for me,

1009
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: which now I'm gonna have to I've been like just

1010
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 4: watching it. I've been like in the weeds with my

1011
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 4: sniper rifle ready to go. I tweeted out that Kansas

1012
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 4: UNLV was going to be a banger of a bull.

1013
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 4: Well with Caytle Nicky, the offensive coordinator of Kansas taken

1014
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: off for Penn State, and you know, Brendan Marion is

1015
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator of UNLV is interviewing for jobs out there,

1016
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 4: and this game is coming the day after Christmas. I

1017
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: don't think those coaches can hold off before accepting new positions.

1018
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: And you and lv's quarter back Jayden Maba is expected

1019
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: to be if he's not already in the transfer portal.

1020
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: It's widely reported that he's going to be in the

1021
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: portal and stuck. You just mentioned if you see the

1022
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: quarterback hop in there, that's probably not a good sign

1023
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 4: for everybody else. Before the end of the day today,

1024
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 4: I will have an under on this game. I want

1025
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 4: sixty five pretty bad. It's key sixty four and a

1026
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: half across the board. But if You're going to give

1027
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: me a deflated Kansas offense that could have Ballard in

1028
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: it quarterback against a UNLB offense that doesn't have the

1029
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 4: creator of the go go offense and his quarterback that

1030
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 4: screams under to me all the way. So definitely keep

1031
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: your eyes on that ball.

1032
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, last question as a pertains to line movement

1033
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: you talked about you wanted to get a sixty five

1034
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: numbers matter. I've heard some betting theories that if a

1035
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: line is moving, say plus seven's there now it's going

1036
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: down to plus six, plus five and so on, there

1037
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: is still value until it hits its bottom, Like if

1038
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: it's plus seven keeps moving, moving moving than to plus three.

1039
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: My question is kind of like, I feel like maybe

1040
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: some better is to follow you guys. There's an air

1041
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Force plus four and a half. You guys get it now,

1042
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: it's air Force plus three with these Bowl games sometimes

1043
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: it's still moving. Is there's still value like on a three?

1044
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: And I know you can't say it applies to every situation,

1045
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: but do you do you kind of get what I'm

1046
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: saying here and that you can keep buying until it

1047
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: reaches the plummet.

1048
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 4: Stuggy says, no, what the bottom is. But Stuggy says

1049
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 4: this every ball season. If you're gonna if you like

1050
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: an underdog in a game, just bet it out right,

1051
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: bet the money line out right. And that's true. There

1052
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 4: are more upsets from money line underdog perspective and ball

1053
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 4: season than there is any other. So if you like

1054
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: a dog and it's trending that way, go hit the

1055
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 4: money line too.

1056
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just because I kind of gets

1057
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: scared away, you know, like when you say the Missouri thing,

1058
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: Like I kind of got scared away because you're getting

1059
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: a better number, but you're like, hey, it's gonna keep going,

1060
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, is there?

1061
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean but you don't know. If you knew

1062
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: where the bottom was, then yeah, if you again, this

1063
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: is going back to your if you have to the game,

1064
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: if I knew.

1065
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 4: Wasn't there a West Virginia Syracuse game to move third?

1066
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: Like it never stopped moving, but they had thirteen points

1067
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: in the bowl.

1068
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So it depends if that comes down to

1069
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: intel info intuition. If you're yeah, so like it's it's

1070
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: it's really difficult to say it's everything. Like just like

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00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: in finance, the question the answer to everything in sports

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00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: betting is it depends. It depends on the game, It

1073
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: depends on the line, depends on the situation.

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Speaker 1: There's no blanket rule, right And I I'm not a

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00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: complete moron, I promise, I just mean it. As we're

1076
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: betting these Bowl games so early, I feel like you

1077
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: could kind of expect that they're going to keep moving

1078
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: in some way, like I don't know how many total

1079
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 1: freezes they're gonna be by the time the public sees

1080
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: these in the rest of the world says, oh wait,

1081
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: this game is on Tuesday afternoon, Like you know what

1082
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean the team I bet on, then

1084
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: they could like Maya, Ohio went from plus five and

1085
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: a half three quarterback went to the portals like they

1086
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: could come back and now it's a five and a half.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I think a beautiful example of this

1088
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: is Kayler Williams is going to play in the Cotton

1089
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: Bowl against Tulane.

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Speaker 1: They did, Yeah, yeah, you do you stuck you in a

1091
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: situation like Miami of Ohio when that number is dead.

1092
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: Do you just let that ride and say you know,

1093
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: I got it, I got a bad number? Do you

1094
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: do you try and compensate and find another way to

1095
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: get at it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't get a bad number because it's UH.

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00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: But if it did, if it was gone, if it

1098
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: was gone, do you just kind of soak it and

1099
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: say it is what it is.

1100
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just don't. Don't make a second. Don't make

1101
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: a second, make one too.

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00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: And I don't even like my ohio. I don't even

1103
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: hate my position. I would have really loved it with

1104
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 2: UH if Smith was playing. But I don't think it's

1105
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: completely dead. They can run the ball on app State

1106
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: and they have really good special teams, and I don't

1107
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: know if they don't really care so.

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00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: Well, my ohio creates a lot of havoc and and

1109
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 4: that teams that can implement that on app stay and

1110
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: have some success.

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00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's but if Yeah. I also Mama has a

1112
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: good money on underdog now because of those reasons, and

1113
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: because you have quarterback uncertainty, So keep that in mind

1114
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: with Bulls too. You have a backup quarterback in there.

1115
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: A lot of times you're probably better off going with

1116
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: the money line that you know nothing about a backup quarterback.

1117
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: You're probably better off going with the money line in

1118
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: a bowl because number one the favorite, there's always a chance,

1119
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: unlike the regular season, they just don't show up and

1120
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: don't care. And then also you have a ton of uncertainty.

1121
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: So if he's horrendous, then you're probably getting blown out

1122
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: if the other team showed up, But you also have

1123
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: that upside. So that's that's when I think money on

1124
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: underdogs can be the most valuable. They're very valuable in

1125
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: bold season in general, but when you have that increased uncertainty,

1126
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: I think even more so.

1127
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: So just to plug it, I'll have a Bowld confidence

1128
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 4: piece out about a week from today, So if you

1129
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: want to know what underdog's outright, that is definitely a

1130
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 4: big piece because you have to take shots in a

1131
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 4: bowl confidence pool. You have to pick underdogs if you're

1132
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 4: going to cash in those points. You just can't take favorites.

1133
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 4: So look for that to come out next.

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Speaker 1: Week and you do a good job because for the past,

1135
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, eight years or so, I have come in

1136
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: the top three of my bullpools pretty consistently because I've

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00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: used the action tools, you know, the pieces you put

1138
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: out call in the confidence it certainly helps.

1139
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 4: Well generally I win my confidence bullpool. So I'm hoping everybody. Yeah, yeah,

1140
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: I bet what I write, so hopefully it works out

1141
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: again for everybody.

1142
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1151
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 1: you just look at it. What's your instinct on who

1152
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: gets crowned to the national champion?

1153
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: Stuckey, Uh, Texas call it.

1154
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it's gonna be the winner of Washington, Texas,

1155
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: and I'll go to Texas.

1156
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: All right. I think I would go Texas too closely.

1157
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm tweeening on this Washington Texas thing, but

1158
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: I'll say the winner of that game definitely wins the

1159
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Speaker 4: whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, it's gonna be a great playoff. I'm really

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