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Speaker 1: a million ways we could go with today's show, because

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Speaker 1: last night's game was so it wasn't even mid It

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Speaker 1: actually lived down to everything Jason Stewart has said about

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Speaker 1: the failings of the National Football League right where it's

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Speaker 1: is like people keep watching and it's just not that

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Speaker 1: good a product. Game did not feel like it was

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Speaker 1: in question. We can get to a little bit of

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Speaker 1: love for Dak Prescott, who has I think, without any question,

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Speaker 1: though none of this is the playoff games. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to the playoffs likely this year. To me, the

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Speaker 1: discussion is.

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Speaker 2: Over the Raiders. It's over the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I have a ton of personal knowledge of the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've had family members work for the Raiders

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Speaker 1: over the years, and you know, like Telesco, who joins

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Speaker 1: us on a weekly basis, he was the gentle manager

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Speaker 1: of the Raiders for a year. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the biggest issue the Raiders since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and two, okay, or really, if you want to go,

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Speaker 1: since two thousand and one when John Gruden left. The

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Speaker 1: next year, Bill Callahan took them to a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and they won eleven games since then. Since then, and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the last twenty three years, they've had

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Speaker 1: two double digit win seasons. And here's the kicker. They

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Speaker 1: haven't had any nine win seasons. They've only had four

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Speaker 1: eight win seasons. So what you think about this for

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Speaker 1: the last twenty three years? Last twenty three years, the

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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, who are a historic power and a big

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Speaker 2: This is just crazy.

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Speaker 1: They've had six seasons of five hundred or better. It

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Speaker 1: seems almost impossible to be that bad, right, They're not average,

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Speaker 1: they're below average. Most team in the leagues finished between

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Speaker 1: seven and nine, nine and seven. Remember now, only do

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Speaker 1: they only have those four eight win seasons during that

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Speaker 1: same period of time, they only have two seven win seasons.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, wait, now, you're kind of nickeling, Timon, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Most teams in the NFL finished between seven

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Speaker 1: this year. So only eight times in twenty three years

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Speaker 1: they finished with seven wins or more? How is that possible?

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Speaker 1: How is that level of bad luck slash mismanagement possible?

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Speaker 1: And it's not like the end they've had, you know,

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Speaker 1: they've had some curious coaching decisions. They did have John

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Speaker 1: to one of their double digit win season, their twelve

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Speaker 1: I do not do. I think it's his first year.

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Speaker 1: And this is the classic house that somebody decided to

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Speaker 1: Like we do. I'm not a harp on the negative guy.

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Speaker 1: Do we pick out negative things? Is that part of

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Speaker 2: Is, but we don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't ride the Jaguars, who, by the way, won

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Speaker 1: this weekend. We had Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon upcoming,

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Speaker 1: and I think the guys have done a great job

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Speaker 1: of some topics. Bless you dan Byer, Bless you dan Byer.

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Speaker 1: Bless you dan Byer, Bless you Danbyer. Forst is that

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Speaker 1: another one?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Do you go threes or forest Dan?

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Speaker 3: I sometimes go five or six to be wow, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's most people go three. Don't you guys go three?

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Speaker 1: I'm a three guy. If it goes over that third seed, sneeze.

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Speaker 1: I don't make you to say anything nice about me period.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say this, I'm rare, but I do know

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Speaker 3: others like me that sneeze four or five six times.

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Speaker 1: When we see yeah, it's like a quick rabbit one

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Speaker 1: if I get to four, just be done with me,

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Speaker 1: throw me away. I'm worthless. But I again, I want

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Speaker 1: you to think about this. It's one of those we're

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Speaker 1: Carro has one wherever he's been. And obviously part of

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Speaker 1: I give you the Oakland Raiders and look, you know,

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Speaker 2: This is what it looks like. This is that's five contractors.

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Speaker 1: That's everybody has their own idea and nobody sticks with

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Speaker 1: the previous idea, and you keep moving out parts and

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Speaker 1: moving in quarterbacks. Yes, Pete Carroll continues. They they decided

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Speaker 1: Gino was worth it.

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Speaker 2: He's not. He's just not.

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Speaker 1: He topped out a while back. He's a better version

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Speaker 2: Is what they do.

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Speaker 1: But I mean in terms of how much the Raiders

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Speaker 1: I mean, in terms of actual success, think about that.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders have had two seasons of double digit wins

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty three years. They've had six seasons

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Speaker 1: And it's not for a lack of trying. It's not

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Speaker 1: for not having really good people involved. And it's not

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Speaker 1: for an owner who you know, previously didn't have any money.

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Speaker 1: They have money since moving to Vegas. They've just had way, way, way, way, way.

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Speaker 1: different directions, too many different ideas when just stick with

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Speaker 1: covered up by the fact that they had the one

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Speaker 1: twenty three. That's unbelievable, unbelievable. But the Raiders went from

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Speaker 1: was only four years. It was eight and eight, eight

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Speaker 1: and it was just bad decision after bad decision after

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Speaker 1: bad decision. And it's almost it's more impressive to me

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Speaker 1: how many good people have not been able to figure

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Speaker 1: can figure out the Rube's cube for somebody else. I mean, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you study this thing. And by the way, this has

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Speaker 1: Jason's worked in the business a little bit longer than

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Speaker 1: Dan and I, but generally about twenty five years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you think about it, for most of the twenty a

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Speaker 2: In the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That seems that seems almost impossible considering the image of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said that you don't think that it's ownership,

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Speaker 3: but I do like that's the constant, because what else

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Speaker 3: could you blame it on. Right, They've tried so many

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Speaker 3: I think that ownership and Mark Davis are trying so

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Speaker 3: many different things and I think that this one is

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Speaker 3: one that is doomed to fail. And when you look

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Speaker 3: at bringing Pete Carroll in, like there's there's there's a point,

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Speaker 3: and I know they're going to need time to build

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Speaker 3: a roster, but realistically, the game may have passed Pete

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Speaker 3: Carroll by because the game has changed dramatically in the

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Speaker 3: last five years, it's changed in the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: All let me, let me, let me ask you a question, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And you're talking about his incredibly conservative nature as a coach.

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Speaker 3: So what you're talking about, so, yeah, talking about yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, correct, Who's been the best team in the NFL

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Speaker 1: the past two years? Fair to say the Eagles? Sure, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean the other team would be the Chiefs. And

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Speaker 1: the honestly, honesty was last year in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs were extremely conservative offensively right, because their offense won

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Speaker 1: very good. They won bit based on their defense. So

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying and that it may have

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Speaker 1: passed them by. It may have, but we have teams

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Speaker 1: being really successful being very conservative.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about going forward on fourth down. I'm

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Speaker 3: not talking about punting it in that situation. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about that everything Like for Pete Carroll, the whole mantra

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Speaker 3: for Pete Carroll's entire career has been compete. And again

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Speaker 3: this is a small part of this twenty five year

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Speaker 3: window that you're talking about. Pete Carroll wants to win everything.

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Speaker 3: He wants to win at everything, whether they have the

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Speaker 2: How'd I do that?

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Speaker 3: That's a very good summation. And I understand they've had

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Speaker 5: you talk about I watched this Ponzi scheme thing going

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Speaker 5: on Amazon Prime about it called the Hollywood Hustler. He's

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Speaker 5: got a pretty good hustle going right now. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the offense is embarrassing, and you can be well, John,

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Speaker 5: they don't have any offensive lineman. If you're a good

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and you've got some of these weapons, you

436
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Speaker 5: should at least be able to manipulate some plays. And clearly,

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Speaker 5: I think Geno's comments after the game were like, listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm not the biggest Geno guy, but he's proven over

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Speaker 5: the last couple years. You just give him somewhat credible,

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Speaker 5: you know, operation he's okay. I mean, he looks worse

441
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Speaker 5: and worse by the week. He's like just blame me.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think he's saying a tongue of cheek,

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Speaker 5: I did the raided very disaster, and I think.

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Speaker 2: That's that's my takeaway.

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Speaker 1: They are a disaster, not even a good Cowboys team

446
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Speaker 1: with a bad defense that even the Cowboys like, Look,

447
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Speaker 1: we're just trying to get through this year to rebuild

448
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Speaker 1: the defense next year, right, Like the Cowboys at least

449
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Speaker 1: they're realistic with who they are, yeight.

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Speaker 5: I mean they made Dallas look like a fourteen win

451
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Speaker 5: team last night, you know, and Dallas is a seven

452
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Speaker 5: or eight at best. But I think the difference is

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Speaker 5: is like Dallas has some infrastructure. Here's the other thing,

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Speaker 5: you know, Brian Schottenheimer took a lot of heat. Not

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Speaker 5: even he did, I mean the Cowboys did. But like

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Speaker 5: he's proven, like he's a good offensive coordinator and his

457
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Speaker 5: rapport with his quarterback. His offensive linemen are young, who

458
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Speaker 5: knows if they're any good, but he can manipuate. He's

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Speaker 5: coaching up George Pickens, who Mike Tomlin punted on, Like

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Speaker 5: I'm watching Schottenheimer and go, I don't know how good

461
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Speaker 5: he is because we'll see that maybe next year when

462
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Speaker 5: they got better players. Sure, and people are like picking

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Speaker 5: them to make the playoffs. But clearly he's good at

464
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Speaker 5: offense and players like him. You're watching the Raiders, You're like,

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Speaker 5: are they quitting on all these guys? Because that they're

466
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Speaker 5: quitting on Pete, They're quitting on Chips. And I think,

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Speaker 5: if I'm Brady, I get with spy tech and I

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Speaker 5: try to dis convince Mark, like, listen, it's gonna be embarrassing.

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Speaker 5: I think we just need to kind of hire a

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Speaker 5: young guy, trade everybody and just kind of break this

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Speaker 5: thing down to the studs.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Yeah, it's it's it's it's bad.

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Speaker 5: So the Division two, Doug, I mean, the Chiefs are

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Speaker 5: having horrendous year. What are they going to go ten

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Speaker 5: to seven?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: I mean it's they're not even The division is way

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Speaker 5: too hard. The three coaches and the infrastructure with the

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Speaker 5: Chargers now and obviously the Chiefs and the Broncos, it's

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Speaker 5: just not gonna be a fair fight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to Siriani.

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Speaker 1: I went when I was at the Packers Eagles game,

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Speaker 1: the next to last possession on second down, the Packers

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Speaker 1: have their full boat of timeouts and they throw the

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Speaker 1: ball on second down, on the other side of the

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Speaker 1: two minute warning.

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Speaker 2: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: Then they throw it on third down, it's incomplete, so

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Speaker 1: the Packers get the ball back, don't get anything punted,

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Speaker 1: and then he does it again. You know, going forward

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Speaker 1: on fourth and down makes no sense at all, no sense.

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Speaker 2: So then this.

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Speaker 1: Week they're in their own territory. They got they got

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Speaker 1: a two score lead. The Lions have done nothing against

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Speaker 1: them all day. Why are they going forward on fourth down?

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Speaker 2: What I think?

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Speaker 1: I know they've won both of these games, I get it,

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Speaker 1: But this is not about results.

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Speaker 2: It's about process. Isn't that the wrong process? Well?

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Speaker 5: I think this week, I mean they just they just

501
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Speaker 5: swear by the tushbush and whenever it gets stopped, they

502
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Speaker 5: are just plumbixed. And those most people watching. So I

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Speaker 5: think they're just gonna lean end of the day, like

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Speaker 5: if the toush push, if it's a one yard situation,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna run the toushbush on the field. What they

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Speaker 5: could be backed up to their own goal line. I

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Speaker 5: think the previous week end of the day the Eagles

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Speaker 5: philosophical belief as an organization, Like when they showed if

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Speaker 5: you were at the game, you didn't see but they

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Speaker 5: showed Jeffrey Lowie in the dur the back game. I

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Speaker 5: mean they're winning, They've won like twenty two of their

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Speaker 5: last twenty six games. He looks like he wants the

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Speaker 5: fallout of the box. You know why, Becausejeffrey Leary loves offense.

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey Leary likes to throw the ball like all those

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Speaker 5: years of the Indy Reeves like he throws the ball

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Speaker 5: too much. Jeffrey Leary's on board, you know, analytically, like

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Speaker 5: going four on fourth down, like he believes in what

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Speaker 5: Dan Campbell's doing. Like the organization promotes that, so they

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Speaker 5: they look at Dick Sirianni kind of taking the marching orders,

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Speaker 5: you know, and I think he knows because you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: do that if, like if you did that with the

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Speaker 5: Steelers or the Giants, like they were the equivalent of

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Speaker 5: being this good right, the old school owners would freak out.

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Speaker 5: That's just not the case in Philadelphia. It's not only promoted,

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Speaker 5: it is us.

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Speaker 1: It's so as listen, I get it for most of

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Speaker 1: the game. I get it for most of the game.

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Speaker 1: You have a completely and thoroughly dominant defense. We're talking

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Speaker 1: the last minute, two minutes of a football game. We're

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Speaker 1: talking winning time when all that stuff sounds good, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you haven't scored on my defense. I

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Speaker 1: have a great defense. All I got Like you go

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Speaker 1: back to the Packer game. Just take a knee twice. Hey,

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Speaker 1: on first one, the they got to burn two timeouts,

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Speaker 1: then they got to two minute warning.

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Speaker 2: They got no chance.

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Speaker 1: They had no chance, but they're giving a chance.

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Speaker 5: Made to pivot in ther identity. Like, I know, you're

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Speaker 5: paying your quarterback and the wide wide receivers a lot

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Speaker 5: of money. But now that Fangio has a couple more weapons,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna be You're gonna have, you know, right there

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Speaker 5: with Denver and Houston, like one of the best defense

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Speaker 5: in the league. That's gonna be our identity. Run the ball,

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Speaker 5: make it ugly, and I think they just need to

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Speaker 5: embrace it. But I'm just telling you that's not how

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Speaker 5: they think. It's why, let's face, most teams, once they

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Speaker 5: started freaking out and defending champs might have been like, listen,

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Speaker 5: let's just punt on a first round pick. Let's just

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Speaker 5: get out of this. But the Eagles just don't think

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Speaker 5: like that. They're gonna They're gonna keep promoting and try

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Speaker 5: to pass like they should stop passing it as much.

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Speaker 5: It does not work.

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Speaker 2: It does not work. This is the Doug Gottlieb Shore.

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Speaker 1: You listen to Fox Sports Radio, John middleclasts our guest,

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Speaker 1: of course, to announces podcast and the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 1: Did you see this happening in New England this quickly?

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Speaker 5: I thought they were going to be good. Just when

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Speaker 5: you look at the schedule. I think two schedules really

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Speaker 5: jumped out at the beginning of the season were New

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Speaker 5: England and San Francisco. It's like, it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 5: for these teams not to win ten games. Obviously, the

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Speaker 5: Niners have a million injuries. They look like they're headed

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Speaker 5: toward ten wins. I thought New England like the forty

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Speaker 5: nine ers, ten win team, not like thirteen or fourteen.

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Speaker 5: So I now part of it is and I think

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Speaker 5: Belichick and Brady be the first tell you. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 5: you get four games against Miami and the Jets, and

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Speaker 5: that can be very lucrative to the win loss record.

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Speaker 5: So it's that's paying dividends. But their quarterback is playing great. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: defensively they look much better. You know, every move they've

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Speaker 5: made from like Diggs. I was like, why he's signing

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Speaker 5: Digs torn Acl I mean, he's playing his butt off,

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Speaker 5: he's blocking, he's bought in and at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, like say what you want about him, and

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Speaker 5: he can be you know, wide receivers have big personality,

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Speaker 5: you can drive people nuts. He's been associated with winning

577
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Speaker 5: majority of his career. Right in Minnesota they were good,

578
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Speaker 5: went to Buffalo, they won a lot of games. He's

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Speaker 5: got a wide receiver personality, but he is a winning player.

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Speaker 5: And then I think when you factor into they got

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Speaker 5: some of these young guys. Listen, you know sometimes you

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Speaker 5: get a young guy he's not body on the details. Well,

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Speaker 5: now it's like the Henderson the running back from Ohio

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Speaker 5: State five touchdowns the last two weeks has been I mean,

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Speaker 5: if they start getting him going because he's an explosive player.

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Speaker 5: I think I saw the Kyle Williams, the wide receiver

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Speaker 5: from Washington State. It's got injured, but you know he's

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Speaker 5: his explosive speed. So the scary part for everybody this

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Speaker 5: is probably going to be their worst team over the

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Speaker 5: course of the next couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they're only going to get better. They're only going.

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Speaker 5: To Buffalo was in trouble, and I think they knew it.

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Speaker 5: You know, that game against Tampa was must win once

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Speaker 5: you factored in that New England and won on Thursday,

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Speaker 5: and Tampa was bringing it. They had that kid from

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Speaker 5: Syracuse making plays. I thought, Oh my god. And then

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen basically just went like Steph Curry. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: of course they see today. Can't we can't lose?

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Speaker 1: Hey, real real quick? Is it time to freak out

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Speaker 1: about Kansas City yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It's just I mean, it's just not gonna be their year.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think when the Dust battles, they still

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Speaker 5: end up ten and seven and probably six or seven feeds.

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Speaker 5: But like this happened in New England that they had

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Speaker 5: some weird years over and they're gonna have to pivot, right,

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to hit on some players in the

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Speaker 5: draft to become your Devin mccordy. You'r Dante high Tower,

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Speaker 5: You're Julian Edelman and have this second iteration of the

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Speaker 5: group because Travis Kelsey probably retires, if not this year,

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Speaker 5: next year, and Chris Jones is you know, a fifty

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Speaker 5: percent of the game's player at this point, so they're

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Speaker 5: gonna heat on a couple of guys. They already got

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Speaker 5: some young players. Let's face it, they're gonna need pat

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Speaker 5: Patty Mahomes to to play a little better. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's he's he's an all time great. But we got

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Speaker 5: David Worthy for a reason. You got to hit him

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Speaker 5: down the field, no question.

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Speaker 3: All right, Doug, the game today is rank up. All right.

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Speaker 3: Doug ranked the top three teams in the NFL through

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Speaker 3: eleven weeks of the season. Okay, should mean to catch

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Speaker 3: you off guard.

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Speaker 1: No oh, no, I just I you know I.

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Speaker 2: Done this. I know. My issue is with.

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Speaker 1: Again, how do I I've kind of pooped on the

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Speaker 1: Broncos and then they beat the Chiefs, who I really

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Speaker 1: liked so but they're at home. I'm still doing Eagles one.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing Ankle Eagles one. I'm gonna do Rams two,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say the culture.

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Speaker 3: Three all right, makes some sense?

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Speaker 2: He five and zero on the road.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm under selling them, but my logic is,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Rams have a quarterback who's won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and is unbelievable, and their defense is really,

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles did win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They've been dominant in classic Eagles fashion, like the Lions

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Speaker 1: could do nothing with them. And obviously the Colts are

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Speaker 1: the ones who I don't believe as much in Danny dimes,

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Speaker 1: but they probably have the league's envy and they got

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Speaker 1: a little bit more talent than anybody wants to hear.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know this. They have

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Speaker 1: the biggest point differential of anybody in the league. We

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Speaker 1: don't do point differential in football like we do in baseball,

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Speaker 1: but consider like the Broncos are a plus sixty five

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Speaker 1: at nine and two, the Cults are a plus one

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Speaker 1: fifteen at eight and two.

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Speaker 2: Colts are my number.

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Speaker 3: Three, Seahawks are second and plus one on one, and

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Speaker 3: the Rams are third at plus one hundred. Rank the

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Speaker 3: top three. Surprising Week eleven outcomes, Doug, Oh, what surprised you?

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Speaker 2: And Rake? Eleven? Great question.

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Speaker 3: I unfortunately picked the Raiders last night. I don't know why,

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Speaker 3: but I did know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one. I don't know why either surprises. I

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Speaker 1: would say, you said.

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Speaker 3: Results, Yeah, just outcomes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I mean again, I don't. I wouldn't do

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Speaker 1: Jags over the charge Jacks were favored. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think it would be that big a blowout. No, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I would say Broncos Chiefs would be one. Okay, Eagles

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Speaker 1: Lions is two. And it's not because I'm surprised the

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Speaker 1: Eagles beat the Lions. I was just surprised that Jared

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Speaker 1: Golf was fourteen at thirty seven, he never had a

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Speaker 1: second to play. He looked he looked like rookie year

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Speaker 1: Rams Jared Golf and then honestly, bears over Vikings would

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Speaker 1: be three.

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Speaker 3: All right, we may get to that game and Tuesday

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Speaker 3: morning quarterback. Maybe some foreshadowing Doug rank the top three

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Speaker 3: schools not with vacancies. We're talking throughout college football for

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Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin. Top three schools you'd like to see Lane

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Speaker 3: Kiffin at all?

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Speaker 2: See Lang Kiffin at Yes, it's.

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Speaker 3: Not personal if we fire anybody, but.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I mean I would say three would be

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Speaker 1: Florida just because they've been so good and I would

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Speaker 1: like to see and and he has a little bit

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Speaker 1: of Steve Spurrier to him, right, wasn't the player of

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Speaker 1: Steve Spurrier, but some of the I don't give a flip,

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Speaker 1: say whatever you want, Like again, that was Spurrier. I

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Speaker 1: would say, So we'll put Florida at three, Florida.

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Speaker 2: At three, hm.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, I'd like to see him at Penn State. Penn

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Speaker 1: State two, okay, just because he's so not Penn State, right,

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Speaker 1: they're so conservative, they're not Penn State. And I'll take

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Speaker 1: number one place like USC.

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Speaker 3: Back at USC Yeah, back at one, And Doug, rank

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Speaker 3: your favorite Caribbean island.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to the Caribbean, so I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go US Virgin Islands.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Guba. Two just because i want to

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Speaker 1: go to Cuba. And I've always want to go to Aruba.

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Speaker 1: My friends have gone to Ruba. Plus I like that

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Speaker 1: Beach Boys.

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Speaker 2: Song Aruba Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's it, and that's the press. Don't call it

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Speaker 1: a what is it? Tuesday morning? Quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Next